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We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. A sibling rivalry. Please don't do that with your mouth. (laughs) A sibling rivalry. That's good. Oliver, I'm excited. For what? For McCalley Cookeon. Yeah, let's bring him in. All right, here we go. Hi, Ollie Mack. Obviously is Mary Jabrenda, son who plays Alley on our show Running Point. And is like the greatest ever running point. Yeah, we gotta get, I've been going over this with her for years now. Even though the show's only been on. Everyone, even Brenda, we're calling him at Running Point. And it's not, you can't emphasize running. Oliver. You're running point. I was wondering where you're going. I was like, oh, you're taking the point. It's basketball. Oliver is trying to score. Running point. We are running point. It's the show about shooting hoops, yes. Yeah, right. Yeah. It's not the running point. Meaning like, I'm running. It's like, no, I'm running point. Like it's a point car. I'm the tip of the spear. I'm running point. I'm running point. I'm running point. I'm running point. Now we have all kinds of connections to Mac. But our biggest connection to Mac was Mac was in school with our brother, Boston, in New York. Yeah, that's right. And way back in the day. It was eighth grade. I think it was only for one year. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember Boston always like just, he was like, couldn't believe he was in school. But school wasn't his school for like high performing artists or something. Well, he was a professional children in school. So it was pretty much kids who had like day jobs essentially. It was a lot of the Juilliard musicians, a lot of school for Mac and ballet, ballet dancers. But you grew up in New York? Yeah, I'm born and raised there. Okay. Seven siblings. I'm third of seven. So six siblings. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. That's crazy. I four brothers. Yeah. So we're raising two boys over here. Yeah. When I was a little worried that like, you know, like that kind of didn't really like Carson at first. And this and that. I go, honey, don't worry about it. Like, you know, take it from me. I tons of brothers. It's going to be fine. Like in the end. Yeah. So when it's a little one starts walking and talking and able to play and stuff like that, you know, like then they're going to be just fine. And now they're their best buds. Yeah. Of course, you have amazing insight into all that. And you never know how it's all going to roll out either. You know, I mean, you especially having that many siblings, you did there are probably so many different relationships dynamics. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes like one of my siblings, I remember we didn't speak for about, this is those adults for like eight months over a game of Nopoli. Are you sitting? You know, you know, you were in our 20s. You know, I mean, there's like, not mad about the so that the wording of the rules, you know, that's like, you know, like, you know, that's the case. So let's just say that's the last time I played with Nopoli with them. Yeah. So you have so so there's four boys, three girls. No, five boys. I'm a four brothers plus me is five. Oh, five boys, two girls. Yes. And where are you in the? I'm the third. You're the third and above you is all is boys. No, no, it's a brother and sister and then Karen's right below me. So and we're all we're all pretty much almost exactly two years apart. My older brother and sister there, they're actually born in the exact same day two years apart. So yeah, there's seven kids and six birthdays. You know, yeah, wow. That's that's where the aisle. Well, actually, I can tell you the odd is one one to the 365.4. Yes. So so so so your mom must have started young. Yeah, she started pretty young. Yeah. Let's see. Yeah, I think I was like, she had me when she was about 25. And so she probably started when she was about 21. Yeah, we're all we're every every two years. It's like, you know, they're exactly two years apart on two years, two months. My Karen's two years, one month, you know, my sister's two years, two months. Like pretty much I think they kept on doing it around Christmas time. It's cold and she had nothing better to do in New York City. Right. It's just like, yes, they all were kind of around the same time about nine months after, you know, nine months after it was cold. How did how did your how did your parents raise you with that many children, meaning was it a lot of like, Hey, you know what, you're going to have to take care of yourself. You know, there's definitely a lot of that. Yeah, I was definitely a little bit kind of like, all right, kids said go. Like, you know, I got this next one to take care of. So yeah, we were a bit a bit feral. I would say a bit feral. Especially in the city. You were able to just walk. We just cruise around the city, right? I mean, that's yeah, yeah. And back then, even it's going to like, yeah, like, you know, like I'm six years old and I'm walking. I'm walking ten blocks to school by myself. Like I would never let a six year old walk ten blocks in the city. Never in a million years. That's so crazy. Is it an amazing what we did, you know, or what we were allowed to do? Or was this normal that we wouldn't do now? No. Yeah, it was just a style of time back in my day. Yeah, yeah. We're in that place in our lives, you know, yeah, yeah. I wish it was still like that. Well, it's the more we know, the more fear we have. I mean, the truth is, is I think, you know, at least L.A. is less is more safe than it's ever been, but we have more fear than we've ever had, you know, because everything is so right here. We see it. We have access. Yeah. It's we have so much true crime to watch and listen to something. Yeah. Yeah. And just like, you know, it gets there. You know, of course. Yeah. It cuts you like a paper cut, you know, and just like that. So next thing I just cut it in paper cuts. Now you just like, I'm going to avoid paper altogether. Yeah. Yeah. And then you're, was your, were your parents artists? No, no, my, my mom was a telephone operator at night. And my father was a sacristy in a church. So he's pretty much, it's almost like a way of saying janitor, but he upset a mass and things like that as well as maintain the church. And so that's what we did. That's what we were able to go to Catholic school for free. Pretty much. Yeah. And how did you, so, so did you, and you all lived together all seven kids in New York City? In a one bedroom apartment. Yeah. So they were, they were, they were stacking us in bunk beds and stuff like that. Like, yeah, like, yeah, we were like, we were like, we're like a can of certain. Nine, nine people in a one bedroom apartment. You know, you know, was it started to feed all you guys? I mean, this was a good change. We didn't always have, we didn't always have a, we didn't always say we were, we were, we were, we were definitely a food poor. The lights weren't always on, the heat wasn't always on, you know, things like that. Sometimes we didn't have the gas on it was definitely, we were struggling there for a long time. And when religion was religion of big part, we weren't religious, but you know, we did get baptized. and I did do my first communion. I've done a couple sacraments. But yeah, but it's also, I love it just kind of keep it up appearances, for school. - Yeah. - Yeah, really a religious family, you know, yeah. - And where there are artists? - Where there are artists in your family, I know you and your brother, but was it was just something that permeated? - No, not really. Listen, I just had a lot of energy. It was what it was. And it was actually my father was taking up my older brother and sister to go take some head shots. Like in the park or something like that. And my mom, I think just 'cause whatever, I think she wanted a break, 'cause she was probably taking care of like three other kids. She was like, just take Mac with you, just take them. - Mm-hmm. - And so, and then, Nick, you know, I literally like just, I booked the first thing I went out for, I booked the second thing I went out for, and the third thing I did was in that. And then, you know, Nick, you know, I'm doing-- - Not because you're the cutest baby ever. (laughing) - Oh, thank you. You were so cute. - Wait, what, before we get into how cutie is, you still, by the way, was still my time on his baby face. - No, but, but, so you booked the things that you got, but was it your mom, you know, who said, well, we're gonna put you into this world or do you have desires to do it? - No, no, I mean, I, you said, it kinda just started happening, a little bit, the dominoes felt pretty fast. And like I said, we were, you know, we didn't really have a lot of money. And I don't know what to say, and I can start putting in some money. So then, you know, then, then it became opportunity. And so, then my father kind of just grabbed the reins. It was kind of like, you know, go, go, go, go. But, you know, like I said, early on, like I did some studio theater, the Ensemble Studio Theater in New York. And it's like, you know, next, you know, I'm getting a glowing review in the New York Times. And so it's kind of just like, things like that. So it's kind of like, they try to like, just keep doing it and doing it. So I pretty much just did a lot of studio theater. I did like one or two commercials, but it was like literally just straight into movies. And then I started booking and booking and booking. And then, you know, like within, about within the first two years, I've been working with, you know, John Hughes and John Candy and some of that. And then it just like, off to the races, looking at, and for me, like that, like for me, like it all kind of made, like that made sense to me. It's like, you know, you start small and you build, and you build and you build and it's like, yeah, then you become a big star. Like, yeah, that's the heroes journey. You know, that makes sense for my, you know, that's what Luke Skywalker does. You know, that's what the logic makes sense to, to a, to a six, seven, eight year old. That kind of, yeah. And then I was like, what was your first movie? It was called Rocket Gibraltar. It's actually, I think it's a Bert Lane cast, I think it might even be his last movie. And, but it was a lot of a New York theater actors at the time. So, you know, I was doing a lot of them to do a theater at the time. It was like Bill Polman, Kevin Spacey, Patricia Clarkson, Suffolk Epin, all like unknown. This is like, you're talking like 1986, you know, so we're all like, you know, let's unknowns. And so about a family reunion kind of thing, many of them, it's cute, it's cute. It's actually showed some of it to a Brenda during the pandemic. She was like, oh my gosh, I'm sick, so I'm even cute. (laughing) And it just blew her mind. And I think she's pregnant at the time too, so she's like Rubber and her belly going, oh, I hope it's cute, it's cute. And I'm like, of course, I could be cute. (laughing) Oh my God. Wow. - So, so then how long have you been working before you booked Home Alone? - I started doing stuff when I was six. I started doing Home Alone when I was nine. So about three years, you know, and at that point, that was probably about my six or seventh movie. Like, I was doing like two movies a year, you know, plus also, I was also dancing ballet professionally too. I went to the school of American ballet, SAB. So I would do a season there, and then, well, I would do a season there, and then I'd go off and do Uncle Buck, and then I'd come back and do another season there, and I'd go off and do Home Alone, you know, and then like things like that. So like, so like Uncle Buck was in theaters, and I was doing ballet on Lincoln Center. Like, you know, like that kind of thing. Like, you know, so it was just that, you know, I mean, I enjoyed dancing, I was good at it, but it was also the parts and the money worth coming in fast on the other side. So, you know, we had to pretty much drop that. - Well, with the money situation and your parents, and you know, you being sort of the cash cow, how did that work? Was it pretty easy peasy? I mean, I mean, I'm just a kid and I do work, you know what I mean? Like, if I mean, I wasn't there, you know, those kind of dynamics. - But you found yourself coming out of sort of poverty and you're eating regularly and shit is expanding, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, of course, yeah, it's very funny. I mean, you know, when you're eating out of cans, the next thing, you know, you know, we're in a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Like, you know, it's just a kid. But again, that's kind of, you don't know any better. Like, you know, you have to remember your kid. So you don't really have a perspective on these kind of things. - Right. - You know, it's like, yeah, it's like, you'll question your older, you can kind of, like, is this where my money's going down? - No, it's a job. - I'm not like, yeah, but did you know, but did you know the students pack of those? But did you know that you were the source of this? You're not that you knew where it was, you know, did you have that? - Yeah, I did. - You know. - Yeah, I did, but also like, uh, - But there's no pressure there. I was like, I'm the guy who's doing it, but I don't know what that is. - Not until later, not until later. And again, that's when you start getting, you know, getting older, having more perspective and things like that. But also like, you know, they were very good about, like, not telling me how much I was making. And so, you know, again, it's not like, they didn't even want me going to school going, like, hey, guys, I'm just paying $1 million. Like, you know, they were very good about kind of trying to keep that kind of a side. I mean, it really wasn't until I was 18, I turned 18 and I called it the, the piece of paper meeting. So I sat down with my business manager and he like literally just slides a piece of paper, like, like, down, so, you know, you just had down and slides the best of them because here's a breakdown of everything. And that was the first time I actually got a perspective of how much I had earned over the years. - Yeah. - It was very funny. And my feeling was very funny. It was just a, I felt like some kid worked really, really hard and I inherited his money. Like, I was kind of just associated from it at that point. - And so. - Also, at that point, I hadn't, uh, I quit. I'd been quit for about four or five years at that point. - Well, yeah, I was just kind of living life. I just went to high school, I was like that. Like, I was just trying to, you know, so again, so I was very disassociated from that money kind of saying in a minute and said, "I almost had a weird survivor." - So I just guilt about it, even though it's my money. Like, it was very strange. - That's fascinating because it's like, you know, I would assume, I mean, it was so huge. And I know this sounds maybe weird, but I think it's similar. Like, remember when Leo did Titanic and he was just exploded? - Yeah. I think that was, I would say just because I'm your, around your age, that that was you and home alone. And it was so huge. - It was quite a big deal. I mean, you're saying? - Yeah. - I mean, it was a big deal. It was the number one movie for 13 weeks. - Wow. - Yeah, it's like, you know, like, you know, like, you're in the big movies now, only get two weeks. - Yeah, yeah. - And it must have been so incredibly like, to be that age and to not really have the understanding of like fame, it must have been a bit jarring. - Yeah, it was a bit jarring, but at the same time, again, it was a little bit of like, yeah, of course, like, you know, I'm doing movies, so eventually I'm going to be a movie star. - Yeah. - You can assume there was a little bit of that kind of - National Forbidiglogic. - Yeah, right. - It was a simplistic kind of 90 year old, 10 year old kind of just like looking at, yeah, like, yeah, it's a big deal. It's like, yeah, this is what happens to everybody, you know, like, you know, who really does it, you know, drives and stuff like that. It's like, no, I mean, I was very lucky. Listen, if I was a year older or a year younger, you know what I mean? My whole life would be like completely different because I would have been the wrong age for that. Like, you know, I was the right age, you know, look at a lot of, a lot of stuff lined up for that, you know, look at, I'm not stupid. - What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. - Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your girl, Sam J. - And we're the host of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together in I Heart Women Sports. Because let's be real, women sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. - The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout starts, the moments to take over your entire timeline. - And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. - Every week we're breaking down the biggest stories across women sports. We'll give you our tapes, our debates, and probably a few disagreements. 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That's what made it great. - The cast of Obsession. - On set, there was so much magic happening with each scene we were putting together. - Deep Dives into classics like 2001 A Space Odyssey or Fight Club. - We are being denied the information about who Tyler Durden is because the narrator is being denied that information by himself. Plus weekly episodes on all industry news. Listen to Raiders of the Lost Podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more, follow @RaidersOfTheLostPodcast and @TiktokPodcastNetwork on TikTok. - Were you humble or was there a part of you because you did have this sort of expectation of this is the natural progression. We were like, "Yeah, fuck yeah, I'm King Shit right now." - No, no, no, I definitely wasn't like, like, Braggadocious or anything like that. But I always had an inherent copy-ness to it. I mean, I think that's kind of why I was able to do a lot of the things like that, that's sort of the appeal was that I was kind of this very confident kid. Like, you know, even borderline copy. But never went to school and like flaunted that kind of stuff. And it was like, "Oh, movie star." If anything, it was everyone else that was being weird. - Of course. - Yeah, like, you know, like I remember those kids. - Like Boston. - The kids were, but Boston was fine, bus was fine. (laughing) - I just remember I was in Catholic school and I was like, "This kid James, we never hung out, never talked or anything like that." Like, you know, there's a, this is like a Catholic school. So it was like 40 kids and like, there's like a cattle car of kids and every kid. But he, all of a sudden one day he's like, "Hey, can I walk you home to school from school?" Or like, "Yeah, sure, James." And so we were like, "Okay." And then he just starts asking me questions about like, "So how do you get an agent?" And, you know, like, so how'd you do this? And then I was like, "Oh, okay, you're being weird about this." All right, this is, yeah, like this is like, yeah, I'm kinda like, "Oh, like, yeah, oh, now we're friends." You know, 'cause you, 'cause you want me to tell you how to get an agent. Like, you're being weird. Not you're looking for a kid. - Sure, of course. I'm sure it's far-spinned you though, you know, just as far as just the human condition goes and how you perceive people, because you've had to sort of weed out the truth, the real people, the authentic and then the opposite. - Oh, you have an old soul. I said, "I don't have an old soul. My soul is just old." - Right. Like, it's been eaten. - Yeah, yeah. - Life has done it really. Yeah, like, yeah. - I wonder, like, did you feel, because like you said, you kinda quit, you kinda, like, whoa, let's start with this. How were your siblings with your stardom so young? Like, did it affect your relationships with them in any way? - Yeah, too a certain extent. Yeah, I mean, my older brother was always protective of me and stuff, but, you know, it was tricky because, again, I was kind of a way, like, a lot. I was a way almost like half the year. And so, it was tricky. Like, you know, this happened to also like, and even with school mates, but mostly, with my family, I felt it the most, was I'd be gone for like, you know, three or four months or something like that. And I come back and they would have like, all new kind of like inside jokes, and like new things they were into. And sometimes they weren't necessarily keen to, to plug me into that kind of stuff, you know, like, oh, this is our stuff that we're doing over here. Like, you know, like, oh, you missed it. You should have been there, like, you know, that kind of stuff. So, that kind of stuff, you know, but again, that's kind of like, you know, of course, you know, seven or eight year olds are not going to be sensitive to those kind of feelings, you know, and I don't have to be actual or emotional vocabulary to, to engage in that kind of way either. So, I had that. I never thought of that like that. Like, I, because we, up until middle school, we would go with our mom. And then we would, we were back and forth between Colorado and Los Angeles. So like, I, maybe Oliver didn't, but I always felt like that a little bit too. Like, I'd come back and I felt just on the outside, you know, and I wasn't, you know, I didn't have the investments of that connection. - And I don't blame them for not, like, like, like, they have their thing that they are doing. - I do, yeah. - I blame them, I blame all of them. - That's what it means. - But at the same time, it was also a little weird, you know, like, yeah, this is something that I mean, love the way. - Well, yeah, I mean, there's always competition amongst siblings whether they're healthy or unhealthy. They're, you know, there is that, there is, there is envy, there is jealousy. And especially at that age. - Well, you're talking about siblings. I was talking about school. - Oh, okay. - I don't know. - But it's a similar kind of thing though. Like, exactly, I'm the way, and then I come back, and everyone's watching. - Right, and their life goes, I never even heard of, you know, that kind of thing. - But they're not gonna tell me what it is. - But specifically with their siblings, it's like, all right, well, he's got all that shit. We have this, and this is our thing, you know. - Yeah, I don't think it was that kind of pettiness. I think it was just, don't, I mean, Oliver, you made it sound so terrible. - Why do you make some pettie, yeah? - Well, yeah, well, let's get your siblings on, and then I feel like I might be moving right. - You know, yeah. - They're all in the East Coast right now. I'm the only West Coaster. I'm the only one who's ever really lived outside of New York. Everyone else is really a New Yorker. - Yeah, yeah, no. And I'm the one who, like, you know, I lived in, you know, I've lived out here. This is my second-stint living out here. I lived in London for a year. I lived in Paris for five years. Like, I'm always like, you know, I'm, you know, and one part, I'm just kind of a tramp. Home was where my boots were, you know, like that kind of thing. You know, yeah, so. - Where's your favorite? - I love living here now. I mean, of course, listen, I have a beautiful home, but it's not about the home. It's what's inside of it. And, you know, you've got to run down the boys and all this stuff. - Yeah, so great. - That's the best, right? But outside of that, I'd love to Paris. Like, Paris was great. But yeah, like, yes, I had a really great flat there. - So what made you decide to just? - Why'd you quit? - Oh, I was tired, man. I was so tired. And the thing is, is that I remember when I was probably about 11 or 12, I remember talking to my father. And I said, I'm getting tired. Like, I think I need a break. And he goes, yeah, yeah, I'll look into it. And the next thing I was in the next thing, the next thing I was like, oh, I'm stuck. Now I'm stuck. Before, and this thing, I could even see like in my performances, and just my general errors of like that. Like, it was just like, it was just kind of, I didn't really, I felt trapped. So now I, it started feeling a job and a chore, was before it was fun. And I felt natural. And things like that. And so it kind of, I kind of took the window to my sales. And so, what I turned 14, my dad and my mom were having a thing. They kind of split out. And I said, great, I quit. 'Cause now he's out of the picture. I'm a great, I quit. I hope you guys had a good time. I hope you guys all made as much money as you possibly could because there's no more coming from me. - Mm-hmm. - And that was it. I started taking ownership of myself. And so yeah, that's pretty much what I did. And I just, I was like, everyone kept on saying, oh, you're 14 going down 40. And I go, no, I want to be 14 going on 15. - That's what I'm going to do. - Yeah. - And so that's what I did. So you know, I went to high school. And you know, I got married. And I did all kinds of things. You know, yeah. And it was lovely. And then all of a sudden, I kind of, I started getting a bit of an inch. And so I just kind of just did my toe back in the water. And I did a really wonderful play in London. I did West End for about a year. And then, and then, yeah. And then how long do we go with this? When did that age start to sort of progress? - This is about 2000s, about 25 years ago. - Okay. - Yeah. - But also I've quit many times since then too. - Yeah. - Actually technically, I'm in a state of constant retirement. - Okay. - So I'm retired. - Okay, good. - Then I book a gig and I am retired. And I do that gig. And as soon as that gig is over, I retire again. So, and so, but also it's a good philosophy because it's a great mentality. Yeah. It's like no sweat on me. I need this career. I think and also I treat every gig like the last gig I'm ever going to do. I'm going to retire. I'm going to do that from now. It's a good headspace to be in because you're not stressing, you're not searching, you're not anticipating. No, I've ever tired. Great. It's also. It's a thing to be like. I was like, oh, you got me at a retirement to do this. It's also, it also has a kind of a, like, it's a good way of thinking for an industry that's just so tumultuous and unpredictable. Yeah, and then you whisper, you know, yeah. Yeah, instead of being like, oh, I'm so reliant on this, it's like, I'm never reliant. I'm never going to work again. Oh, no, no. I've been retired my whole life. I'm going to retire my whole life. And you're still at home. So it's not like you quit. You're emancipated and you're living on your own. But you're like, sorry, guys, I'm doing my own fucking thing. I'm 14. This is my choice now. Was there ever any animosity or any sort of, what are you doing? Like we need you or were your parents just kind of like, hey, great. No, we were, we were, we were pretty well set. Yeah. My parents were kind of going through. Right. Yeah, but going through again. Like it wasn't like a divorce. They weren't married, but it was kind of a custody trial kind of thing. Okay. They were busy doing that. They're all tangled up with each other. Yeah. Yeah. They're too busy fighting each other to go after me, really. And yeah, honestly, there's also, there was like, yeah, I wasn't like emancipated. So like, yeah, but also, like I said, I had a certain amount of autonomy. Yeah. Like, oh, you're going to do this movie. At that point, I go, no, fuck you. Mm-hmm. What are you going to do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember it was during the whole custody thing. Nothing to do with my fucking father. Like he was just the worst. Yeah. And the judge was like, well, you have to, you have to do visitations with him. And essentially, so I didn't do this. I didn't say to the judge. I was, I was a smart ass, but I wasn't that much of a smart ass. But I told my lawyer, I said, yeah, I'm not doing that. He said, well, you know, you'll be into content of court and this and that. I go, okay, well, how about this? I dared the judge to put me in jail for not wanting to visit his abusive father. Yeah. I actually, I'm going to double down on that. I double dare him to arrest the most famous kid in the world. Yeah. Yeah. And I never played that card. But that was the one time I kind of played that card. Short card. And kind of go, yeah, yeah. And it's like, yeah, next thing you know, it's like, what are you going to do? So it's one of the same thing. It's like, oh, what was they trying to force me to go back to work? I'm like, no, what if I said no? Yeah. Because I can really embarrass you guys. Yeah. So I'm just assuming that you don't talk to your dad. So I've been spoken to him in what would it be about 30 something years? Yeah, yeah. Oh, he deserves it too. He's a man who has, he had seven kids. And now he has four grandkids. And none of them want anything to do with him. Wow. And so I would know as a man myself that I would know that I fucked up. I really, I must have done something wrong. And I have a commentator. I have more than an inkling that he does not feel that way. Right. Like, we're wrong. And he's right. He's one of those kind of like narcissistic, lazy people. So it's kind of like, yeah. But also, me and him were always button heads. Like he said, he was a bad man. And I just always knew, because I would take his weapons and stuff like that. But it was, I knew the whole time I was sitting there going, oh, I'm going to win at the end. I just said, just sit tight. I'll take the weapons. But I know at some point, like, I'm going to have that slip of paper meeting. And I'm going to just, I'm just going to also outlast him. You know, I'm going to win. Do you even know if he's alive? As far as I know, he's alive. Yeah. And this is all siblings, all siblings, every one of them. No one has any contact. As far as I know, I think my older brother had some, had some contact with him at one point. But I think that that turns out pretty fast again. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Holy shit. Well, at least you guys are all here. He gave you a life. And that's, you know, I mean, it's one of my earliest memories of him was, you know, when I grow up, this is how I'm not going to be with my kids. And now I got kids in my own. It's like, you know, it makes me even more kind of like, you know, it kicks up some dust, you know, and I kind of go, you know, like, I can't believe he was like that. You know, he had all these lovely kids. And he's talented kids too. Like, you know, like, you know, like, I think he had a certain amount of resentment towards me, I think is what it was. It's because he wanted to be an actor and he kind of did some stuff. He never really got as far as like forests on Broadway, you know, and then he did some ballet too. 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We are being denied. and I, the information about who Tyler Durden is because the narrator is being denied that information by himself plus weekly episodes on all industry news. Listen to Raiders of the Lost Podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is it amazing though, you know, how you can go one of two ways, which is you are unconsciously following these patterns or imitating these patterns that your father laid upon you or you rail against. Well, he laid them out and I just did them. Well, you made the choice. And I was good at them, you know, that's true. But I'm saying, I'm saying, you made the choice to say, I'm never going to be like my fucking dad. You know, yeah, it's one of my earliest memories. Yeah, because he, like I said, he was a son of a bitch. You know, he was just, he was bad to his kids. He was bad to his life. Yeah, he was just bad. He was the worst person I've ever known in my entire life. You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Oh, yeah, I know. I know it's like an old, I always say, you know, these things are 40-year-old problems, right? Like, you've dealt with them for so long. And but it's still just like when you hear that stuff, it just never, it always just, for me, as someone who can empathize differently, but, you know, in a different way. But I just, it just sucks. Yeah, no, it's super sucks. You know, yeah, it sucks, but it is what it is. It makes me the man I am today. Yeah, exactly. It wouldn't be the man I wouldn't be the father I am today. If it wasn't for my experiences. You know, so, you know, like, yeah, listen, like, you know, like, and again, at the end of the day, I was like, I'm going to win. And you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on near shows. So, clearly, I'm a winner. Is everybody did all the siblings have such a healthy experience? I mean, you obviously, you know, have a great, you know, better. You know, I took a big brunt of it because it was a lot of time when I was on the road doing things. It was just me and him. So, I was in a room with a crazy person. For like, I think, I'm the only one. I really took the brun of it for the family. But, you know, listen, they got, they got their licks too. And, like I said, it was, it was a bad guy. Just cross the board. Yeah. What about mom? You know, she, she, she eventually got married. She got married about, like about, like, about 15 years ago. She's living on a ranch in Montana. Oh, she's a rancher's wife. I don't know. I'm really great. And yeah, because she's originally from North Dakota. So, she's kind of going, you know, going back to the, to the planes and doing, you know, just to, that's how she's kind of living on her twilight years kind of thing. You know, I actually just took the boys out there to go see her and stuff, you know, and so. Yeah. So, it was like, yeah, they, as I said, did you have a good time? They're like, yeah, it was nice because they, they, they were old enough to start because, um, uh, Brenda's mom lives with us. So, they, they have a grandma and they're like on a day to day. So, they started asking about my mom. So, I was like, you know, let's get on the plane and go over there. So, they're like, it's good, you know, that was good to see you, you know, uh, poppies mom. I'm like, yeah, yeah. Do you have a good time? They go, it was boring. Like, you guys, you guys get to pet a horse. And they're like, yep, that's about the only thing we do. Yeah, you're right. That's like a Montana. You know, just get pet a horse and then you go to, all right. That's it. So, you got, you know, but sometimes, you know, I remember when she was kind of moaning about her time out there because, you know, she, she did enjoy New York City, but, um, she was like, oh, she goes, there's a sudden bomb on Tana. I was like, oh, what's bothering you? And she's like, well, you know, it's like, you know, I'd like, I'd get up in the morning and then like, you know, put on the clothes and then, you know, I get in the car and I tried the grocery store and then get my stuff. I get online. I pay for everything. I take it home and I put like groceries away and she's like, so tedious. I go, my, you do that in New York. I don't know. I was waiting for the turn. So, I think she just kind of gets, I think she gets, she eats every once in a while, you know, that kind of thing. But that's kind of like, like, months, that happens in New York too. What do you talk about? Except, except minus the car part, I guess, you know, yeah. Is your, what are all your other siblings doing? We know that Karen just won an Oscar, which is amazing. Yeah, yeah. We also have an Emmy, a globe, a BAFTA critic to the sag, you know, yeah. Yeah, very, very acts. He works pretty consistently. He does a lot of like, just weird, indie things and stuff like that. He does a lot of weird, cookie things. I feel like I just saw him in something. He works more than me and Karen Kabbat. Like, he does a lot of projects. Okay. Okay. He's always putting stuff out there. Yeah. He was just like, you did a movie mayhem, I think it was called something like that, that, that, that, that, like that Swedish band with like, you know, that, that golf band, the way that the guitarist killed the killer, but it killed me. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Let's see, uh, my sister, she is a chef, looking at us, that's what she does. She went to the French culinary institute. So she does that. She actually just started an Instagram, uh, where, you know, those ones where you kind You teach the recipe, but it's like really quick. Kind of thing. - But cut. - Cut. And you try it and show, like, wink to the camera. Like she has those kind of things. - This is my obsession right now because I love to cook. And so there's Kate. So there's always, my Instagram feed is filled with those recipes. - What is her Instagram? - Her name is Akwin. She's Quinn Kay Polkin. - I'm gonna follow her. - Yes Quinn. - Yes Quinn instead of Quinn. - Yes Quinn. - Yeah ask Quinn. - Ask Quinn. So is your plan to just, work and then retire and then unretire and retire? Is this kind of the idea? - Yeah pretty much. I mean sometimes like, you know, like a, so they got the call on Friday that I was working Monday. - Right. - And the whole weekend I'm running the two kids around to like, you know, birthday parties and stuff like that. - Yeah. - I'd be lying if I didn't say I had a bit of an existential crisis. Or I was kind of just like, can I do this with two like little kids right now? - Yeah. - Because like the whole time I'm trying to find some time to work on my stuff. And just, but it's my, like, you know, by the time we get home from everything, I'm just absolutely waived. And like, you know, I have to like lay down for half an hour before I can do anything. - Yeah. - And so I'd be lying if I didn't say like, I had a bit of an existential crisis this weekend. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So you know, I go with a wind blows when it comes to this kind of stuff. Like, you know, it's something I, I spend a lot of time actively pursuing. A lot of times these things kind of fall into your lap. - It's just to love it though. I mean. - I enjoy the work itself. Yes. - You do. - I don't always enjoy the pursuit of it. - Yeah. - You know, and like, you know, the luck that comes with it and just kind of, you know, that it could be a drag, you know. And so, and I, listen, I've made my fortune. I've made my mark. I've made my name. I have nothing to prove to nobody, you know. So, you know, I do it for the love, you know, I do it for, you know, for the fun of it. - Yeah. - So, you know, if something sounds fun, it comes, you know, you know, you know. - So you're a dad. - It's a full mature stuff. - You're a dad number one, and then you retire and you retire. - Which is great because we have another season. - It's a really funny point. (laughing) - Yes, indeed, indeed, yes. - We need you, we need you with the kids. (laughing) - That's right, I'm doing, I'll be holding down the fork, you know, holding down the fork, because, you know how Brenda gets like, on set, it's like, oh my god, what am I gonna do? I have to feel, and I'm like, it's fine. It's all gonna work out. It's all gonna be good. - Yeah, yeah, no, it always works out. That's just her way. She has to do that. She has to, like, anxiety is kind of woven into her DNA a little bit, and it's kind of a part of her process. I'm just generally, you know, so they get up, so. But she's good, I sure are out, don't worry about it. - Is there anything else that sort of gets you going, you know what I mean? You're an actor, you're a dad, but, you know, is there something where you're like, I fucking love doing this. - You know, what I say is, I don't have time for hobbies or habits or even new friends. I'm kind of in that phase, simply because I have, you know, both my kids are under four years old. I mean, it's very, it's very, you know, they're very tensioned stars. And we're very hands on with our kids. That's the thing. You know, they're always have a set of eyes on them. Like, you know, we don't just let them cut them loose in the front yard or something like that. Like, you know, like, yeah, they're very, they're precious little Faberger eggs to them. So, like, yeah. So, we put a lot of time and energy into them, but, you know, listen, they're, they're very confident. They're very happy. They're very smart and well adjusted. They're pretty much almost all the things I wasn't when I was a kid. - Are you done? - Are you done to them? - Are you children? - I said, you want one more. - Oh, we'll see about that. Well, you know, we always, we always take the can down the road. You know, it's, we see, we'll talk about it next year. That kind of thing, you know. Honestly, right now we're actually in a spot where we actually have some really great stability. Both kids are in preschool right now. We have good routine. Brenda really sort of feel like herself again. - Yeah, you have some time, and you have some time as a couple too, to like actually be together. - Yeah, you know, and you know what she chose to do? She chose to, we're doing Pilates together. I've never done Pilates together. - Who loves that? - Yo, yeah. I mean, it is, it is killer. It is one of the most humbling experiences in my life. - Yeah, it's not really. - It hurts. I'm so tired. I'm so wiped afterward. - I do the extra. - I was a bit out of shape before I started. And I was like, I need to, like, I need to get back to zero before you start thinking about doing the other things. I was definitely starting with a negative in the rest. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So, I'm working my way back up there. So, yeah, we do Pilates together. Also, she looks really good in her workout outfit. So, yeah, that's also nice to be part of. And so, yeah, but also, like I said, it's humbling. It is absolutely exhausting. I feel totally terrible for the next five hours after her. - Yeah, yeah. - But, you know, yeah, but again, So there's like things like that that we'll do like again a year ago. We want to We wouldn't have the time for that. That's what we're certain to find some stability in a rhythm a little bit. So we're kind of enjoyed this for a while and see how we feel. So every time, every time you meet pictures of our babies, like when they were infants or if somebody like has a little baby around, and I can tell she gets their, her ovaries start aching a little bit. You know, of course. Now that's when my, my ovaries start doing pirouettes. Yeah. Yes. Like I held a baby yesterday on Sunday and I was just like, oh, I know. I just know. I just know. I know. But then you can give it back. And then you're like, all right, I did it. I've done three of them. I'm good. But overall, it seems like you've got your life is just fucking fabulous right now. Yeah, I'm really happy and a really great. Yeah. It feels like I feel really good. I mean, probably in the best place in my entire life. Yeah. Well, this is fucking fun. Matt, thanks for joining us. This was because your life is so fascinating. I honestly could get go like much deeper into all of these things and maybe we'll do it again. I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, yeah, I just love your energy. I think you're just, you know, there, there's so much that could have gone wrong. Now I, that I've just talked to you for an hour that didn't, and it seems like you've got such a good head about you. You know, you would think that because you found stardom so young, you would want to chase that. And there's some negativity around that. But you're just so forward thinking in, in the moment. Well, I always say thank goodness it was me and not someone else. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll be talking to you. Thanks, Matt. You're the best. We'll see you soon. Thanks, Matt. Better well. Oh, he's the best. I know. That was so nice. I was just happy as he is. Um, you'll get there all you'll get there. No, maybe not, but it's okay. I love you. I have to go. Love you too. Okay. Bye. What's up, fam? It's sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your girl, Sam Jay. 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