Makeup Artist Molly R. Stern

(upbeat music) Okay, everyone, we are back, we are back, we are back. I hope you've been enjoying the new episode 'cause I've really enjoyed making them for you. Okay, we've got Molly Stern today. Molly Stern, we meant to have Molly Stern on the show a long time ago. And I'm kind of embarrassed that it's taken us this long because first of all, she's huge. She's a huge, huge makeup artist. And when I went to write her, I DMed her. And it was like, did you ever have this half a conversation that you started with somebody a long time ago? And I think her last one was like, when? Or it was me being like, what's your email? And it was years ago, guys, I dropped the ball. I dropped the ball. I don't know, I think COVID hit. Molly Stern is so mega. She's done, she's like, she has a Reese Witherspoon all that we're gonna talk about all of it here, okay? Not gonna go into all her clients, Maya Rudolph, Reese Witherspoon, Catherine Hahn, Christina Applegate, so many mega, mega, mega women, all the women are like, cool. So you know that like she is cool. We have such a great conversation. And she's like this, also like this bright spirit, which is also why I wanted to bring her to the show. Her energy is just infectious. We have this conversation. You're gonna be in a good mood, okay? You're gonna listen and you're gonna be in a good mood and you're gonna get some great tips. Molly, take it away. (upbeat music) Is it the end of the snake season and we're entering the horse season? Have you seen all that? I have, and my Instagram is tip towards that 'cause all they have are like running horses. You know? Same. I don't mean that though. I'm like, yeah, me too. I'm like, put me on that horse. Let's ride. Let's charge forward. Let's ride. I know. What do we run in towards this year? I mean, we're running away from some stuff, but we're running towards stuff. We're slowly running away. Not so much running away, but letting go. Like, I'm very into the shedding thing of the snake. Just running towards like creativity and inspiration and motivation, but paired with like the finally learned lessons of rest, care, self-love, all the things I've been preaching. I'm finally trying to actually live authentically with. I feel like, no, I'm with you. I feel like I'm learning stuff a little too late, but maybe right on time. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I've now, because I'm 54, I'll be 54 in April. I'm really tapped into all the like 60 to 80 year olds that are like, I just figured it out. I'm like, okay, I still got time. I still got time. No, I think, I don't think, I don't think there's any too late. I saw Jane Fonda who came on the show once, which I still can't believe. You know, one of my say, I can't believe it. It's, no, I can't believe it, but she came on the show and I was, she didn't say this in our show. I wish I could do it again. I would do anything to have Jane Fonda back. I wish I could redo that. I think I was still kind of just stunned that she was on the show. And it was on COVID and she came on the show. She had someone figuring out the zoom for her. The whole thing was like a weird and disarming and crazy. But I was watching her on something recently and she was like, I just started, maybe she just started going there. She's like, I'm going to therapy it in my 80s. Like, it's never too late to like start doing things again and get inspired. And so the coolest women I know are like over 50 and like just starting things and getting like, you know what I mean? In their groove. And yeah, I remember when I had my first two kids, I had them very close together. How old are your kids again? You've got three, right? I've three. Yeah. So I have a almost 21 year old next month. She'll be 21, my oldest Vivian. And my son's ion is 19 and a half. And then my youngest Etta is 16. The baby. The baby. And I was like a super creative overachiever doing everything. I had anything I set my mind to. I would step in and do it. I was fearless all through my 20s. And then I had kids and things shifted, of course. And all of a sudden was like, oh, okay, I get it. I was an artist in my 20s and now I'm a mother. And I was very unhappy with that, right? I was like, oh, this is actually not fulfilling enough for me. All that stuff that I was doing was important. Even though I thought I was buying time until I got married and had kids, I realized now, being a new mother, I was like, oh, wait a minute. That other part of me was really important. And then I took a deep breath. And I always say that I feel like I had like a tunnel to have inspiration where I was like, okay, wait. If I really am an artist and I do proudly say that I am or feel that I am, my best work might not be until I'm 70. It's a lifelong commitment to be a creative person. And I sort of relaxed my shoulders relaxed. And I was like, okay, I can be focused on what needs to happen with this growing family. Did you feel like all of that stuff was just sort of like, not on pause? Did you feel like it was like percolating or did you feel like it was growing? My creativity, you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, sometimes it felt totally vacant and empty and like, hello, hello, hello, hello, you know, and just like lost for sure. There were many, many years where I was like, who am I, where am I, what am I? Were you working as a maker? You were working as a maker. Always working as a maker, always. Yeah, that's been my like consistent, bread and butter lean on that story. And then I'll have these little branches of other creative projects. I mean, we'll get to it, we'll get to it, yeah. But I mean, let's go back for a second, let's go back. I'm gonna take you way back. Tell me, when you were younger, were you like, I'm going for it, I'm gonna go big, I'm gonna be an artist. Or did you, was it not that intentional and you just kind of fell into it? Definitely was a creative, I was more of a, like I was the girlfriend of the artist, or friends of the artist. I didn't consider myself an artist for a long time. Probably it struck in my mid 20s. I mean, I remember a moment that this guy, may he rest in peace, he's not alive anymore, but he came over to my house and he was like, oh, I had like arts and crafts on my dining room table. I was just like making a book with pictures and stencils and he goes, oh, you're an artist artist. And I was like, I am. And it was sort of like the first time that someone saw, or that I saw my reflection in someone and someone saw me. I kind of always thought, I'm attracted to artists, but I'm not one myself. And you didn't take yourself seriously as an artist. No, I mean, I did take art classes when I was younger and I was obsessed with beauty and fashion, like my teenage bedroom was plastered with supermodels and chisato ads and all the beautiful. But it took me a minute to find myself. It took me a minute. Even being a makeup artist, I didn't necessarily, I knew it was a creative field, but I didn't necessarily see myself as an artist. It took a while for me to sort of feel like I could, identify with that title for myself. - I don't know if all like makeup artists consider themselves artists to you, 'cause I consider you an artist the way you sort of approach things. - Thank you. I don't know. It's for me, for everyone. - Right, for me personally, it was, I knew I was working in a creative field, but I haven't always felt plugged into my artistry through it. 'Cause to me so much about the kind of makeup I do is so much about kind of how I make people feel. More than like, you know, I've had opportunities like to work at the Met Ball and stuff where I've really had the opportunity to be creative and bring in artistry to my makeup work. But for the regular show up, it's not so much about artistry as it is about connecting and making someone feel their best. - Well, let's talk about the way you make people feel. Your client list, I mean, just a quick perusal of, you know, your recent clients, you know, Reese Witherspoon, Maya Rudolph, Natasha Leon, Greta Gerwig, you know, these women, they're all very different women with very different projects and histories and you know, personalities. But I would say they're all really strong women who have produced amazing work who have chosen very specific personal projects and they're very strong women. Tell me a little bit about the women who have, you know, you've chosen to work with and how that shapes your career. - Thank you for that. I mean, every day that I get to be in the presence of one of these super successful, super talented super tenacious women. I feel so unbelievable. That's a good word. Tenacious. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I saw someone the other day and I was talking about a project that I had kind of put some energy on and then it sort of it was happening for a minute and it wasn't happening as things go and I saw this woman and she's like, you know, as well as anyone that it takes tenacity in this business and I was like, you're right. It's such an important reminder and anyone who is successful with anything. It's like because they stuck with it not because it just fell on their, you know, fell in their lap. And I think I really recognize that in most of my clients is this driven tenacious character that I really grow from being around. Yeah, tenacity, like not giving up being persistent. Yeah, believing in yourself is not a real word. Right. Just, you know, because it's so easy to get discouraged, right? I mean, there's so much about being a human being that's really quite discouraging. So it really takes it takes heart. It takes gut. It takes tenacity and I dip in and out of it. I, you know, sometimes I like forget and I'm like, hope, you know, I guess I'm just doing this or I guess I'm just doing that and then I all like remember like, no, I got it. I got to believe and I've got to keep edging towards where I hope to land. Yeah, yeah. I was wondering if that's something that comes from it's just in in born, like if it's just, you know, you're kind of born with it or if it's a skill you can grow. I wonder too. Yeah, I think I think it's probably a skill you can develop because it's something that it's like, you know, learning, listening to people who have, who have success in whatever area that you're interested in. I think if you learn some of the steps that those people took, like I just was watching an interview with Prince, right, you know, another wrist and he was talking about the importance of learning how to play an instrument and that yes, it's hard, but you need to take the time to actually master the instrument now how many of you know how to play like what like 45. Oh, yeah, it was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. But it's like, you know, you can practice qualities and actions that will move you forward in the direction you want to get. Yeah, practicing tenacity. So you're working with all these women. You're not doing an editorial look all the time. You're not, you know, I'm not going to confuse the world. You're doing a lot of things where the spoon was something that a pat McGrath, Goliano look that's not where you're trying to achieve on the Oscars red carpet. You're making these women look absolutely flawless, but looking like themselves and leaving the hotel room at night or that afternoon, feeling absolutely confident and like the best version, the most glowing confident version of themselves. And that is why they come to you. What are you doing? Tell me walk me through like, how does it start? Are you showing up at their home or at their hotel suite being like, what do you want to do? Or are you sell, are you sending them iPhone picks three weeks before of a reference that you've had in your back pocket? Are you talking with their stylist like we don't know, take us through it. Yeah, all of the above the answer would be all of the above depending on the client, depending on the red carpet. Yeah, usually for your bodies, we were like texting them like, or are you like, what is I'm sure it's varies from person to person. Very some person to person. Yeah, varies. I've definitely been at it for such a long time. I started when I was 16 and you know, like I said, I'm about to be 54. So I've been in some of my clients like Maya Rudolph, for example, I've known since we were in our young 20s before she was even on SNL. I knew her because we were just ran in the same circles. Yeah, it depends on the person. If I'm texting and saying, who I'm excited or what are you thinking? You're like dead, sharing a picture. Yeah, definitely connecting with the stylist and the hairdresser kind of get on board with what everybody's thinking. And then yeah, sometimes I'll use inspirational pictures, sometimes I'll come in with an idea sometimes. I mean, most everybody I work on is like, I just want to feel fresh and pretty, you know, and yeah, and then I'll like sneak in a like purple eyeliner. Like when she leaves, I'll be like, she's wearing purple eyeliner, but nobody can tell. Okay, somebody's in the chair. Let's do a little bit of a market. Like what products are always in your kit. You've got your fresh, pretty kit. What are the products that you're reaching for 70% of the time if you are going to make somebody look fresh, pretty gorgeous. Basically, what do we want to buy? Okay, so I'm always starting with some sort of like missed, you know, like for many years, I was dedicated to the Jure leak. Oh my God, spray. That was like a die hard for me. Now I'm I'm on an epic Karen cake. They have a colostrum spray. Okay, which I really like. I love any any sort of mist that's got natural ingredients and sort of feels refreshing and smells nice and sort of wakes up the senses. How long are we letting that sit for five seconds? Okay, quick spray. Then the last several years, I've been very into oils. I think probably my favorite one right now is from monastery. It's called the gold oil. I'll do a couple pumps of that massage in kind of just get the get get a sense of what their skin feels like. And then I go into some massaging. I'm I use two different tools that I've been using for years now. The one is by brand called pause, which is actually a menopause brand. They have a fascia stimulating tool. It's like a silver gwasha sort of yeah, yeah, but it's made of stainless steel and it's it's medical grade. It's got a lot of different great shapes so you can really like get into the different parts of the face and sculpting and it just sort of breaks up the fascia and the skin. Where is key to be doing that because every time I use a gwasha, I'm like, am I doing this right? Yeah, I mean, it's I I love to I wish I had one next to me, but I like to use my fingers. Yeah, so like in here. And then I go down the next level and here along the jaw. Okay, this is essential pre pre red carpet pre absolutely because the more you stimulate your skin, the less makeup you need. And the less makeup you're wearing the the better you look like too much makeup, unless we're going back to like creativity land and I'm doing like a stripe across your face. If you're just going into gorgeous gown and you want to look like the best version of yourself. Yeah, you want to spend that time stimulating the skin and really just breaking everything up in there so that the blood starts to flow and you kind of get that natural glow. It's not flowing right now. I'll tell you that I'm staring at a screen for eight hours. I'm like, it's draggy. I need that monastery oil. I need some oil. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the oil is the oil's key. The oil's key because then you get the movement of the the tool. Molly at her. I know do it. Do it. Just get in there and get your get your blood flow. Okay, I'm not sure there's any blood in there right now. Okay. Okay. Yeah, it is. That's the thing. It isn't there. And like even just touching your face a little bit like you're like, oh right. I'm a human being. I have blood flowing in my body. I forgot. Okay. Yeah, you put the the pot using the pause. I use the thing. Then I got the monastery oil got the monastery oil. Then I go in with the best Jillian Dempsey's gold bar, which my right. And then I go over everything doing that little vibrator action. Again, deeply sort of stimulate the skin. And that's always my start. And by that time, once you've used those tools and you've spent a good, you know, 10, maybe even 15 minutes, stimulating the skin. Sometimes I'll get into the neck to you know, sometimes the forehead usually the forehead the the Jillians because it vibrates sometimes it's weird on the forehead like it makes my teeth chatter when I do. So I see what my person's feeling. And once I've done that, the oil is kind of soaked in. And then you're just kind of starting with a do we blood pumping canvas. Okay, yeah, the Cuban not even there's no makeup involved yet. Okay. So I was going to ask you I was like, it's the oil going to mess up the makeup, but it sounds like the oil is so absorbed with all of this. Focus, focus with the. Yeah. Unless you're like a super oily person. Yeah. And then maybe you want to use a moisturized you still want something that's got some slick because you need that for the tools to. glide. Yeah, get it. I get it. But if you're, yeah, if your skin's very oily and you're like, I can't imagine putting oil on my skin, you can use a moisturizer that, you know, kind of has that sort of dryer finish. That's fun. Understood. Understood. Or you can, you can do the oil and then maybe resprits with your mist and kind of pat some of the oil off if you feel like, like, no, I'm still feeling like too, too much. Right. Right. But I, I rarely am wiping oil off once I've put it on. The skin is plump. The skin is dewy. You have prepped the skin to the nines. What else is always in your kit to make your skin, to make the skin look fabulous? Because every time I look at your clients, just your skin looks amazing. Thank you. Thank you so much. Sorry. There's a dog walking. Thank you for that. Next is going to be what kind of concealers or foundations. I, I sometimes use a concealer as a foundation. Or I sometimes use a foundation as my concealer, but I'm never doing a full face foundation. It's never a full, yeah. No, never. So I really love, I've just recently started using the Sarah Creel spot. I don't know what she calls it, but it's a concealer, basically. But it can be used anywhere on the face. So I'll sometimes start with a little bit of that, maybe under the eyes and you redness around the nose if there's any blemishes. Or I like, I'm also big fan of Bobby Brown concealers. They do an amazing pro kit, which is, you know, full range of colors on both sides, slightly different formulas. I use that a lot. And then from there, I'll decide, okay, do we need another layer of some sort of foundation, sheer wash of evening out the skin toner, evening out the color or evening out the texture. So I go between Cogendo, the moisture foundation, oh yeah, yeah, red tube. Love that. I love, I love Shantokai, the future skin foundation, although I did hear that they changed their formula, which is devastating if that's the word on the street. Okay. And I'm really, I'm really don't care for that information at all. Of course, our monoluminous silk is beautiful. Everything you're mentioning is super light, super light very sheer. Yeah, super sheer, but super buildable. So how do you know mentioning your buildable? I also really like the no makeup makeup. It's like a pressed cream foundation and very again, very, very high the wall. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, you can put that in the shop myself. Yes, okay, very important. If the celebrity is late, you've mentioned a lot of like, you know, the beautiful, long ritual of the massage, the vibrating, Julian Dempsey, the gold bar, this beautiful layering. Let's say I'm crashing into the chair. I'm so late, my car was late. It's a nightmare. What is the quickest way to make somebody look really polished and profess? Like, what's your cheat? So I would maybe skip the tools, but I would take the time to do some hands-on massage just to get that blood pinched and glowing and plump air. And then just get it on there real quick, you know, highlight anything that needs to be highlighted, pop a cheek, a bright cheek, I think is like the quickest way to feel kind of put together because it just makes you feel alive. You've been doing a bright cheek before it was a trend. To me, a bright cheek is, it's a desert island look for me. It's like, do you have any favorites, any favorite formulas? Oh my god, so many. I love so many. I'm really into Jamie Greenberg's bli-lighters. They're great. Very tiny little cute brand. Jillian does beautiful cream blushes. I love a Chanel has some really pretty cream blushes and really vibrant colors. Makeup by Mario has really beautiful cream sticks. I just added those to my kit actually. I really like those. You really like, you go across all brands, you really support so many different brands. Have you ever been tempted to do your own brand? I, I, you know, you had your own fashion brand for a while. You're such a creative person as I was saying at the top. You're all over the place. You're very painterly, artistic. It's like shocking that you don't have your own brand, but there must be a reason to that. I kind of always felt like my friends were doing it and like, I wasn't necessarily going to do anything that was a huge departure from what other people have done. Yeah, I don't know. I've thought about it at times. I've had different like little false start opportunities, but it's never been the right time or the right situation to do that. Is it off the table? No, gone no, nothing's off the table. Come on. The table gets bigger and bigger as I, as I mature like it. I'm definitely putting out new leaves to the table. Yes, absolutely. If the right opportunity came along or I mean, of course, a dream of like, oh, it'd be cool. There was a two-sided stick for this or, oh, I'd love to make the delivery system easier for people. Of course, I fantasize about that all the time because I kind of eat, breathe, and sleep beauty products. Yeah. You're a makeup artist who loves makeup. There are makeup artists who do not love product. There are makeup artists who like, I try to talk to them about it and I could feel like they're not like lighting up in the same way. I love makeup. I love makeup. Yeah, like you clearly love makeup. Which is funny because I really only use a few of the, you know, my style of makeup artistry is pretty limited, but when I, I just love to touch and try, it's like, oh, this is pretty good. No, it doesn't. Yeah, it's so obvious. Is there a brand that you miss? Well, I loved, you know, I got my start with Shuyenwara. Yeah, you worked at the counter, right? I worked at the counter. They had a store in the century city. Now it's the Westfield Mall, but it used to be called the century city Shyemua. I grew up in LA. And, you know, when I was 16, I walked in and it was like pristine and clean and bright because it was Japanese and perfect as everything Japanese is. And like rainbow of colors and the shimmers and mats and the brushes and it's just, it was like kid in a candy shop, but makeup edition. And I was like just, so I wish, I wish Shuyenwara, Shuyenwara still exists in Japan, but that, you know, there's no big boutiques here, even counters. I don't think for them. I think they only do hair products in the States now. All right, so Shuyenwara, that's one that you would love to see back here in the US. Yes, very nice. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I know. Their foundations were the best. Their eyebrow pencils were there. Nothing could beat them. They were. That's right. I remember that they were very dry, I think, right? Very dry dry. Yeah, very dry. You can really get like a hair like stroke and it would last all day. There was no like wiping your brow and it ending up in the hairline. That's a good one. That's a really good throwback. What look felt like magic to you that you've done for red carpet? Oh, one that you really hold dear in your recesses in your mind. A couple come to mind. One would be my Rudolph. I'm trying to remember what it was for. It might have been. I can't remember what the event was for, but she was wearing a red Valentino dress and her hair was pulled back really tight. And we just did beautiful skin and a beautiful red lip and it was just like and her freckles were showing me. I know exactly. Very clean. Yes, yes, very clean, but like just perfect. I know what you're talking about. I know. I can't remember if it was. Yeah, we got to show this. She was going with Paul or I don't know, but that she looked gorgeous. It's beautiful, very simple, very dramatic, but simple, very fresh. Yeah. I think she went to the Oscars looking like that, but I love that you don't even totally know. You're just like, I'm coming in like an assassin. I'm doing this and I'm getting out. You're you're you just you just do it and you make your clients feel gorgeous. Now when I book guests, obviously I know who I want to have, but I do sometimes ask other people for like information, like other friends, colleagues and I'm like, hey, I'm interviewing Molly. You know, would you have any questions? Like I do a little recon. People love you, Molly. They go crazy. They love you. And they're like, oh my gosh, she's so positive. She's so chill. But but but but and in your bio also, you have just like self love advocate. You got a lot of positivity. I'm not disclosing something that you're not. They weren't willing to share. and people earlier this year, you've been through something. You're going through something. - I got about almost two years ago, I got diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, which was like, what? Wait, I'm not like an old man. - No, you're young. - You're young. - You're young. So like, when I heard all about like, oh my god, Molly, like she's so, she's just like the sparkliest, most energetic. Like, she's so bubbly. And then I'm reading all about this. It was like, was this, did you have to kind of fight for this attitude? Or were you always? - Well, it's, like I said, I'm turning 54. - Yeah. - The month after I turned. - That's tough. I'm, first of all, I'm sorry. - Thank you. It's, you know, it's, I'm so weird. Like, the weirder things get, the more faithful I become. And I was raised with so much. - You always pay phone? - Yeah, I was raised with a really like, beautiful, authentic connection to like higher power. And it never was like presented to me as like, it was kind of like, you've got a buddy. You know, you've got a protector. You've got, the universe is looking out. And, and I sort of adopted pretty early on, like what's meant for me can't miss me in the most positive way. So like, I really would apply it to like jobs. Like if I really wanted a job and I didn't get it, I'd be like, okay, what's meant for me can't miss. Like I couldn't avoid it. - Yeah. - And in the last several years, I went through a lot. My daughter was sick. She's thank God, healthy. My daughter got cancer in the same year. I turned 50 a month after I turned 50. I got divorced from my husband who I was married to for 20 years and family is so important to me. So that was like, it was like, you know, detonating my- - Just devastatingly. - The system. - Yeah. - It was really intense. And then I got diagnosed with Parkinson's. So it was like, it's been an intense view. - So this has got to challenge. - Yeah. - That would challenge. - COVID was right before that. It's like, Jesus. - Personally, this would challenge me, if the whole what's meant for me, that would challenge me. So how would you- - Well, would I realize this? - You can't, if that's my ethos, which it really truly is, you can't pick and choose, right? When you're gonna believe in that. For me, it was like, well, if that has served me so well, in the positives of my life, then I kind of need to count on that ethos for the things that could be perceived as the negatives of my life. And, you know, I just feel like there, I feel like my love yourself, mantra was, I knew it was important because so many people I worked on, I saw such a common theme in people, which was that everybody really goes through severe times of hating themselves and we're really mean to ourselves. And the inner critic is like alive and well, even in the most successful, beautiful person, I really saw that repeatedly over the years. And that's where the love yourself thing came from. And kind of when I got sick, I realized that I was like pushing out this message, but I wasn't necessarily doing it for myself or taking care of myself. Well, I'm getting a little emotional just. - No, no, no. I think people need to hear this. - Yeah. Yeah, I realized that, you know, when someone gets diagnosed with like, oh, your body's not totally working properly. - Yeah. - And thankfully there's things I can do to help feel better or even slow the progression 'cause it's a degenerative brain disease. - Yeah. - You'll be shocked. It's sleep well, exercise and eat good food. I'm like, oh, groundbreaking, wow. Okay. Thanks for this original content. I'm gonna keep myself healthy. - Yeah. - But, you know, taking that to heart and actually changing the way, and by the way, I'm still not anywhere near perfect. At all, I still am like, oh, wow, look at me. Sanvitaging myself or not, you know, doing what I know would make my health and life and energy better. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But I do my best. - It's hard. It's harder than life gets in the way. It's work, it's children, we have, you know. - Pizza. (laughs) - It's much harder to do than, you know, than it looks. But no, I think it's the love yourself thing. It's just two words. It's easy to say it sounds very like love it, but if you really think about it, and what you're saying, it's like even people who we don't, we think everything's going great. You really talk to people and you see that they have gone through something or they're going through something. You don't know what people are going through. And I really feel like everyone is going through something. Like if it's their family, if it's a family member or something personal or, you know, every, I don't think humans are get through it unscathed. I just don't. I think that's part of the human experience. - Yeah. And so we don't really talk to each other in a way that we find out that unless you're very close to somebody, you know? - Yeah, I mean, I have the, I'm the person that's like, oh, is that a doorknob? Let me tell it everything I'm going through. Like I'll tell anyone who will listen and talk about what I'm going through. I don't, that's, I don't know why I'm that way, but I am. I love connecting and talking about things. But, but what I have found is being that way does inspire people and encourage people to go, oh, well, if, and that's why to me, it is important to talk about stuff. It's like, if I can make anyone go, oh, she's talking about it, she's willing to open up about whatever's going on for her. Maybe it gives them a little more space and support to do that in their life. - Well, I want to thank you for that. And I think that's also why people, like I said, doing my recon, I think people really, you know, appreciate that about you. And you know, it's, that openness is what makes you special. And of course, you're, you're incredible body of work. So thank you. Molly, it's time for the Fatma Scarif 5. We're going to do a quick lightning round. - I'm scared. - Okay, no, it's, it's, it's quick and easy and paneless. - Okay. - Molly, what is a beauty trick or lesson that your daughters have taught you? - That's hard lightning round, okay, I have to take it quickly. What is a beauty trick that my kids have taught me that laughter is, laughter is, makes you look the most beautiful. - Oh, I love that, I love that. You're most cheap and cheerful, beautiful. - I would have to say it's the Maybelline. - The Cloud Blush. - Cloud Topia. - Okay, oh, oh, those are good, yeah. Okay, the, - And there's like an amazing range of color and you just like, you pop it on the lip, you can pop it on the cheek. - Ooh, a monochromatic, I like it. I like it. Okay. - What is the most splurgy beauty product that you love? - That would be skincare, for sure. I would say, and you know, an oil or nature, but say does this incredible, they do this ice lift mask. - Yeah. - It's like, little face in the bottle. Are you using that before, are you sending it to your people, or are you using it on yourself? - I have sent it to my people, but I mostly use it on myself. Like if I have to do a public appearance or something and it just makes you feel, like it does a little mini snatch situation, which I'm not, I'm okay with people not being snatched, but it just kind of tightens you up and makes you feel like, hmm, I'm ready. Okay, speaking of that, is there a procedure, 'cause you see people up close, is there a procedure that you would warn against? - I mean, most. (laughing) Unless you can really find the best, the absolute best doctor, I'm not into filler. I think fillers really doesn't look good on anyone. I think I, personally, can always tell that there's filler in the face and I don't know. I have a, I mean, I'm like a minute away from wanting a neck lift desperately, but I also really have this thing where I feel like I've given so much of my life to Vanity that I don't want to do anything, and I've never done anything other than like, had a laser facial ones or twice. - How was it? - It didn't make that big of a difference in it. I'm sensitive. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So I'm trying to, that's like, I try to not linger in the mirror and love myself and just say like, well, my mom never had any work done and she's so beautiful and it's, - I get it. - It's like, what's for lunch? I understand. - Yeah, it's tough. - It's tough because the decline is so steep. And so I get it. Like, we look in the mirror and we're like, wait, I don't feel like I look. And so if you can get something that can help that, it's like, of course that's appealing, but. - I'm gonna try this cryo mask. You have stuff still thinking about that mask. - It's so good. It is so, so good. It's their diamond ice lift mask. - Diamond ice. That's what my friend actually texted me about it together 'cause I told her I used, they have a peel, like a diamond peel. - Like a long peel. - The glycopy, I used it this morning, knowing that we were recording. And I love the peel. - Okay, that in combination with the diamond lift is like, you can't buy anything that'll make this. - You're gonna think I'm like Sabrina Carpenter. - Literally. - It's incredible. - All right, last one, last question. What is the last note that you wrote on your iPhone? - Oh, no lines. - No lines. - It might have just been, can I look? - Yeah, you have to. - Yeah, it's not a guessing game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, good, good because. - Well, let me tell you, okay, hold on. The last, oh, what is this note? (laughing) I feel like this has something to do with, oh, this last note I wrote was about dancing in LA. Raves basically that are taking place in LA, but not at night. They're like morning sober dance parties. - Is that where we're gonna find you? - I mean, I wrote it down daybreaker and name radio that I heard it on KCRW. I was like, ooh, I wanna go dancing at a rave with no alcohol in the morning. - Alcohol is great. - Okay, great. - So mine and myself. - Let's go. - I also, you might catch me at, I just heard that there's a watch party for Connor's story from Peter Drive over. - Yeah, yeah. - He's hosting SNL and I heard there's a watch party for that. I was like, oh my god of that. - Sounds amazing. - It sounds like you're booked. You're booked and busy. - Exactly. - Molly, thank you so much. This was great. - Jess, thanks so much for having me. I really loved chatting. - Oh, thank you. (upbeat music) - All right, what did you think? Molly, do you love her? I'm obsessed with her. I wish we lived closer because I would definitely force my friendship on her. She's so cool. She just made me feel better about a lot of things. She maybe feels stupid about caring about things that I shouldn't care about. It's like, I just felt like, oh my god, Molly, I need more Molly's in my life. That's no shade to all the wonderful friends I have in my life, but I feel like she just kind of gave me a little kick in the pants with some of the things she said. All right, let's talk about Razer Wand. Razer Wand, if you don't know, we are raising a wand to fantastic products that just need a little extra shine on them when I want to share with you. Today, I've got a real like under five fine. How, first of all, is there anything that's under $5 today? I go to get like a chalateg with my daughter and I'm out like $15. I love Swav. Okay, I'm not being paid to say that. I just love Swav. I love Swav. I think they make great products. When my daughter uses shampoo and conditioner, she gives a squeeze that like her knuckles are white. When she squeezes, she squeezes half a bottle out of shampoo and I also have really thick hair. So I need a lot of product whenever I do, like when I write shampoo or condition my hair. There is a Swav product that I'm nuts about. It's Swav Carroton Infusion Smoothing Conditioner. I love this product. It is a good dupe if we want to talk dupes about, and a lot of people don't love dupes, but it's a dupe for a very expensive salon quality product. It's the salon quality conditioner. I go through a lot of this. And so does my daughter and she even uses it on her Barbie head. And I don't mind because it's so inexpensive. So it's about three in change. I get it at CVS. They even have some jumbo sizes, I think at like Target. I love it. So check it out. Swav Carroton Infusion Smoothing Conditioner. It's in like a pearly pink bottle. Anyway, check it out. Let me know what you think. Send me your razor wands, [email protected]. And I will see you next week. [MUSIC PLAYING] Thank you for listening to Fat Mascara. 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