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This is a headgum podcast and I called them and I said I'm not allowed to donate money to charity And they said well we we consider this amount unusual and I said I am unusual I am unusual Marguerite I'm Hi, man. Oh my god. You Marguerite. Marguerite. Well, you know, I just think it's fancy. I like it It is fancy if I was like in a different place in life. I'd probably go buy it I Marguerite. Yeah, I didn't when I lived in France for my because my team my team my team my stuff people at the family I lived with Calling your host family your team In the word team so much that it was in my head But it was a harder for them to say Maggie because it's French people. They'd be like McGee McGee But McGee. McGee. It was like easier. That's so beautiful. Can I call you that? Yeah, for now on just All this time. I'll just go guys. This is next comic. I've known her for years. She's an absolute killer Please welcome to stage. McGee. Wait there. I come on everyone's like, isn't that mag just maggy? Yeah, though I think that's mag dog Not mag dog. I saw her I saw her in a gutter off more last night I don't think that's Marguerite. Oh my god back. My grandma's name was Marguerite and but they called her match match That's really cool, is it wait? What was what was when I heard the other day that I really liked? Oh, I meant to write this down Oh god, it was a Marguerite. No, it was it was The maybe the name was like I'm getting it wrong, but it was a woman. They called van Okay, like her name they're like they're like they're like. Oh, that's van Her name was like a van Jelene or something. Oh, that's cool. I was like van's a fun nickname for that. Yeah Yeah, I feel like if she'd get what she gay Well, you know all older women kind of are yeah, I'm learning that don't you feel that I'm kind of learning that everyone is Obviously a little gay, but women in their 70s and 80s like you talk to them and or you hear them talked about and it's like oh That's match Her and her husband had nothing in common her greatest joy is when he went on a work trip And she got to be alone for a week her her deepest most important relationships with a woman in her life Yes, there were the only ones that knew how to hold her which she was upset It's like that's a gay woman honey. They just weren't allowed, you know, yeah, I know they didn't know they could go there God, that was made it so hot though when it happens When there's seven years old Yes, yes, my mom about now my mom's too tired. She's she's always laying down your mom's a night and I went oh my god She she is she's one of the funniest people in the world without meaning to be my skin is so dry that it's like falling apart Welcome to Chicago. I know I'm home. Is that Exama? No, it's just why I got what's the difference between Exama and dry skin a lot A lot I don't want to upset the Exama community. I'm part of it. No, it's okay guys. There's a lot of yeah. Oh, yeah Oh, wow. I've had it since I was born. I have new meal or Exama too, which is it looks like a ringworm, which is awesome Because people will be like oh you have ringworm. I go no, no, no I have no meal or ex-mom. They're like well check it out people are saying. Oh, you have ringworms. They're pointing at me Man, man, man, man, man, man. You're disgusting. You have ringworm. Yeah, you have ringworm. You need to get out of this Weber girl I am a golden number at the Weber girl honey. No, I've never been you haven't would you go? What's funny is I visited Chicago in high school and it was like the first major like U.S. City I'd never visited yeah, the major city at all I'd never I'd been like Kin City. Yeah, I haven't been like a big big city and we went to the Weber girl in downtown Chicago That has the grill hanging off of there's iconic and I we had like I would got a steak and like sides and I remember being like This is the fanciest restaurant in the world like I left being like Weber grill is like the height of dining And I and I genuinely was like we left and I was like I can't believe we did that. I can't believe we were at the Weber girl Do they do they cook the steaks on a Weber girl there? I don't know I would love to know I wish they did Weber girl reach out. Please do me. Let me know. It's funny. The podcast has gotten to a place now where when we mention stuff They do reach out Like it used to be a joke to be like to be like oh, you know, Hershey Hershey's reach out and then learn my DMs being like can we send a hat and it's like Hold on Hershey's first of all. Yes Of course, I honestly here's one thing I want to say say it brands need to stop sending shit Yeah, unless it is extremely cool. Yeah, but when they're just sending you like a water bottle in a hat It's like hey, so that's more shit that I'm either throwing away right or is sitting in my closet that I don't have room for yes Stop sending shit stop unless I something I need unless this is something I need. Yeah call me call me What do you need those cause it? What do you need? How could how could Hershey serve you and if they're not sending the thing that they make like If they're sending you a hat and not chocolate, it's like what the hell sin chocolate, please don't chocolate Honestly, even if you're not a chocolate brand then chocolate bows. Yeah. Oh my god, both son chocolate EP oil sin chocolate Everybody sin chocolate fucking of oil. You're like, what the hell is this god? I'm trying to eat better. Oh my god How's it going? Yeah, my girl Daisy hooked you up. Yeah, I I'm trying to eat better. Here's the thing Yeah, say this is the realization I had now wonder if you feel similarly. Okay, cuz you are you've been on the road for so long now with Connor and like doing all these shows and I basically would happen was there was a period of years there where my career was starting out and I would be gone sometimes yeah And it was like oh my away life is like this fake free time where I can do whatever I want and I would eat fried food at two in the morning And I would smoke weed and like fuck off and not exercise and not drink water. Yeah, and I'd be like that's fine because it's my away life It's fake and now I have I have I've worked in realized my home life is fake and my away life is life Yeah, and so I'm like actually if every time you're staying somewhere else You don't move your body and drink water and eat one singular vegetable. Yes, that actually is just your life. Yes, and then at home I'm like I'm like eating salads and stuff and being like oh, it's so good to be home and it's like yeah You have to do this elsewhere. You have to do this all the time. You have to add vegetables in the rotation Is what they say or is key, but it's tough because away life used to be just like a fake little game that didn't exist No, I thought thousand percent agree. Do you know what I mean? Yes, I had to have this conversation with myself because for the long time The airport amount like an airport drink and an airport snack. Yeah, about 40 dollars And then I had to be like this is actually for work. Yeah, so I'm gonna bring my self a granola bar And I'm not gonna look at Antian sort of the hell. Yeah, yeah, well, it's hard because at a certain point like when you travel for work as much as we do Going to the airport kind of becomes like catching an Uber. Yes Yeah, like you like oh if I don't get on that fight. I'll just get on the next one. Right. You really become such a rote thing that you do have to Like check your habits and be like yes, oh, I can't actually Garbage at 8 a.m. No Because it's gonna ruin my whole day. I was buying flips. You know flips chocolate pretzel. Oh, yeah kind of cut I was going we don't need to be buying flips every time with the airport. Yeah Like yeah, literally we were like I was like a trigger in my brain It was like where the airport flip where the flips every fat person has a thing that they put themselves on time out for Last year last year I had to put myself on a kfc timeout. Yeah, which was Where were you getting I had to go on a kfc break. This is so horrendous Maggie. I'm gonna say I'm just gonna say something say it I was getting the Nashville hot nuggets KFC yes dipping it in their ranch of course they're like prepackaged Yeah, and getting a kind of heartburn. Yeah, the doctors don't even yet understand. No, there are certainly lines in my like Heart lungs and stomach lining right now from that and I was doing it enough. I probably did it like in my defense I did it like four times in two weeks. Yeah, which isn't psycho But it is certainly crazy like in the levels of what yeah, and I literally I had to I'm not kidding when I say I looked myself in a physical mirror and said No more kfc. No more. I'm gonna kfc stop it delete the yeah kfc's about to reach out and be like Oh my god, I the one of the first times I got stoned out of my mind was in Amsterdam. Yeah my 21st birthday Yeah, cuz I was like there and I was like I can drink and I remember was like you can drink here when you're 10 So like get over it so smoke so they're like yeah, so I had a space cake and we I was so high and I saw kfc Yeah, I remember eating it me and like there's no greater food in the world Kfc is special and then the next day I was like and it was in Amsterdam though. I was like what is my problem nothing I truly knew that nothing would ever stop me from eating garbage when there was an I was like big on KFC in college when I was really depressed Yeah, and I saw like there was like one of those articles that was like like dead mouse found in kfc bucket of chicken And they had accidentally like breaded and fried the mouse and ended up in a bucket and I saw that and I was like that's someone else's problem There's never been one in my bucket. I wish that the Hair in my food. I'm like I actually don't care. I'm still eating this Yeah, I wish I can have I have friends who are like, oh my god. This something looks off and I'm like I wish I had that inside of me I have friend I But that in me. No, I have friends that are like, oh, can we not eat there that place has it can be health rating I don't fucking care. I don't give a shit. The government's not gonna tell me where to eat it We don't have the those kind of ratings in Chicago. Yeah, which the bear season one they kind of did the ratings thing Oh, did they so call in on them out on that call. Yeah, go ahead call them Yeah, like one of the first scenes he's like putting a C and up. We go, we don't do that. It's not us That's not a fuck make a sick make us sick. Make us sick. Mr. Beef I want it if I don't walk in and I don't see dirt on the ground. I don't want it. Why am I here? Yeah, exactly. Yeah I really I did put myself on a KFC time out. Oh my god. How are you doing mentally and emotionally? Oh God actually. Oh my god. It's I what if I start sobbing? I think Maggie that's real. That's okay I'm so got really weird. No, this podcast is many things. I think being on the road a lot is like so hard and Like food the trying to move my body, but then I'm so tired from like track the travel part of it like it's in my hotel and I'm like, I would just love to lay here for hours, but then actually that doesn't feel good. - Yeah. - And then I had to like go do a comedy show. - Yeah. - But then I'm like, I have to be the clown tonight. - I know. - I have to put on my nose. - And then you like open your phone and the internet's like, 17,000 children died today and you're like, great, no, I wanted to see that. I was hoping for that. - No, that's good. - Yeah. - And also someone I hate is on the occasion. - Yeah. (laughing) - And someone else booked and then I didn't. - Yeah. - Every time I-- - Every time you open your phone, it's like, 17,000 children are dead. And it's like, okay. - Okay. - And then all of a sudden you're like, let's see what's up at KFC. - Yeah. - And then you're like, you know what? I said no to that, I'm gonna go back to that. - Yeah. - I am, and the thing about when I don't book is like, I'm always like, I think I'm gonna get this part and then I like open my phone and it's like, Merrill Street booked it. I'm like, oh right. - Oh, those are the most frustrating ones. (laughing) - It was me or her I think, I think. - Those are the most frustrating ones where like you later learn like, oh, they were waiting to hear back from the person I wanted that got off her only and in the mean time they collected tapes and I stupidly killed myself trying to do good. - I was literally like, talking to people like, I think I had something big's coming. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Absolutely not. - How are you doing mentally, emotionally? - If I could sum it up for you in an anecdote. - Yeah. - Two days ago I downloaded an affirmations app to create affirmations for me. - Yes. - I'm working on, I've kind of moved away from the idea that I can control any circumstances in my life. And I've moved towards the idea of, I'm over that. I'm not gonna worry about circumstances anymore. It's no longer my, I'm not focused on that. Now I'm trying to make my brain so strong that I can handle anything that ever happens to me. - Yeah. - And so I've moved into affirmations, which is 100% a cry for help. - Yeah. (laughing) - Like I'm like, to be. - That's what everyone says is the thing to do. - No, no. - I'm trying to be, I'm genuinely trying to tap more into delusion. - Same. - I moved away from it briefly. - And. - I was delusional for a long time. - Yeah. - And then I checked in on reality too hard. And now I'm trying to move back to delusion. - Yeah. - So I'm reading affirmations. - I'll follow you there. Just pick me up and we'll look at there. - I'll tell you when it gave me yesterday. I have to delete it 'cause I can go using AI. So I have to delete the app and find a new way to get my affirmations. But the one they made me yesterday, it says, I am in charge of how I feel and today I am choosing happiness. That's the kind of stuff I'm working on. That's the kind of stuff. - I'm in charge of how I feel and today I'm choosing happiness. - That is crazy 'cause that's like shit, my dad used to say to me and I was younger. - 100%. - Why don't you just call my dad one today? - I will. First of all, I'll be like, get off the bicycle and let's chat. - Let's go, Willie. It's what's crazy is I am in a place in my life where like reading that moved me almost to tears. - Yeah. (laughing) - You're so bright. - And I was like, yeah, why didn't I choose happiness? Stupid, stupid. I was like, you should have chosen happiness you fool. You idiot, like that was there all along. - No, I'm good, I'm making this movie right now. We're in the beautiful city of Chicago because I'm filming Trash Mountain and it's so exciting. - Yes. - But yeah, it's been a year of like, like working really hard and making stuff and it's been so cool and I feel really creatively tapped in to something that I've never been tapped into. - Yeah. - Not never, but I've been creatively tapped, I've been tapped into creativity before. But I feel right now tapped into like, an obsession with process that feels so good. To be like, I am actually not focused on outcome right now and I've talked about this a lot but I am actually genuinely focused on process at the moment. And I love it. - Yeah. - And also I am really tired. - Yes, yeah. - So the affirmations are like needed. - Yes. - And I'm drinking a bunch of water. - Oh, come on. - For two reasons. - Right here. - My body needs it. - Yes. - I've heard. And also number two, I've been training a lot to be able to cry on camera. - Oh my God. You need the water in that. - For this movie. And one of the things that came up in like my research and like process building was like, you need to drink a fuck ton of water. - 'Cause you're about to get it out. - It needs to expel. - That makes sense to me. - It does to me too, but why not? I didn't think of that. So now I'm like a guy who carries a water bottle around. - Yes. - Oh, I have one of those. - Like the joggy. - It's a hydro drug. It's like this, it's huge. - Yeah. - And I'm like walking around like. - Yeah, hello. You guys are gonna do it. - My hotel, I got on tour, I'll be like, where's the ice in the water? - Yeah. - And what's crazy to me is if you stay like a nicer, like a four-star hotel, they're like, every floor has ice in water. If you stay at a three, they're like, you should go down the block and kill yourself. We don't have water here. Are you out of your mind? - Yeah, my favorite is when you stay like a, well here's my big hotel thing that most people listening to this are gonna find unlikeable and unrelatable. - Okay, okay. - And that's just where things are right now. - Sorry. - Yeah. - I'm sorry, but that's where things are right now. But the best thing to do it, the best place you can stay is a four-star hotel. - Yeah. - A two-in-one or obviously, just like not even in the conversation for me at this point. I've had that chapter of my life and it's, I don't know if it's gone forever. Three's are, three's are like that. It's just like no amenities. The room is usually pretty nice, but like they don't care if you're there. - No. - And then you think like, oh, what about a five-star? Actually, no. - Actually, no. - Because those are usually like 120 years old. They haven't renovated the toilet. They haven't like the showers, not gorgeous. And they do, they will do amenities really nice. Like if you call the front desk at a five-star hotel and you're like, I need a chocolate cake now, they'll find you one. - Yeah. - But it's too much money for not being as nice as a four-star. - A four-star, yeah. - So I just wanted to tell you guys for anyone who's able to retake in this conversation, that's my take. - Yeah, stay at the four-star if you can. The three-star just know that when you check in, they're gonna be pissed that you're there. - They're mad. - Yeah, oh my god, every time they're like-- - They're mad, your room is not ready, by the way. - Yeah, by the way. - They sometimes don't have your reservation as well. So as an opener, I started, my opener is out there, you get, 'cause my name is sometimes under Connor's name, 'cause I'm like, oh, it's for Conorwood, and they're like, well, you're not Conorwoods, you can go to hell. And I'm like, like, I'm gonna get him on the phone. I'm like, what is it? What do you think I'm trying to like stock him? Like, probably, there's people out there. - I've had this issue so many times where I've bought a hotel room for someone that works with me, and that the hotel is like, he needs to come in here in person and look at some of the eyes. I'm like, what 1800's business contract is this? They have my card, my social, my name, they, what stranger off the street would guess that I'm staying here and then have the confirmation number? Somebody is gonna watch this and be like, I'm figuring it out. They shut down the chase credit card. Shut down all of my accounts the other day because I spent too much, not over the limit. They just didn't like that I said. And you know what? I'll tell you what I did. I don't care, I'll tell you what I did. I donated a lot of money to a charity. - Let's go. And I called them and I said, I'm not allowed to donate money to charity. And they said, well, we consider this amount unusual. And I said, I am unusual. (laughing) I am unusually kind and turn my shit back on. - The person on the phone is like, what the hell? - I am unusual. (laughing) - Unusually generous. Turn my shit on now. - I'm gonna be donated again. - And I'll do it again. - Don't clock it. - And I did the next day, I donated again. - Oh my God. - Two different things. - I was like, you guys can't just turn my shit off. - No, the hotel thing is very real. And also I want to say, me getting distracted by, I don't know, a piece of chip on the floor. Someone the other day, one of my shows is like, so you have ADHD, right? I was like, what? 'Cause I just get, during the show, if someone stands up and is like, I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna talk about it. - Yeah. - And they're like, you have ADHD. I was like, I don't think so. I've never been diagnosed. And she goes, well, they're seven kinds, so. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Who was this? Were you speaking with a medical doctor? - I had a white coat on in the middle of the show. - Oh no. - She goes, she goes, she goes, she goes, breathe in for me, what's going on? - You have ADHD. - I had to have a, I had to have a physical the other day for the movie, like to clear me for insurance or whatever. And the guy came to set and he was really nice. He was really sweet. But he was like, he was like, every time I would do something, he would like, praise me in a way that felt like, either you think I'm stupid or you're like, shocked that a fat person can stand up. - Oh my God. - But he was like, stand on one leg for me. I have a really good balance actually. And I stood on one leg for like kind of a long time and he was like, okay, show off. - Yeah. - And I was like, do you not think I can stand? - Oh my, no, people think that we, like fat people can't do anything. - I know, it's crazy. - Or like, yeah, I mean, this is obviously like classic, but like I remember getting a burger with how, I gotta let it, scrap burger. And this girl, my old job, like looking, she was like, good for you. (clapping) - I was like, I'm about to order a fucking bag at this spot. - To this room. - To this room. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Don't comment. Do not, yeah. - I had a moment like this recently, where I was biking in New York and I stopped at a, it was like, there was a construction on a four way. - Yeah. - And so they had like, you know, staff, not staff, but like whatever, like, I'm thinking of Modat, which is Missouri Department of Transportation, but like whatever the transportation people are out there, like guiding traffic. - Yes, yes, yes. - And there was an older like Caribbean woman in a thing like stopping people. And I was stopped right next to her on my bike. So, you know, like this. And I was like, hey, how's your day going? And she was like, pretty good, not bad. I want to do the accent. And I know you guys want me to, but I'm not going to. And by the way, it's not because I wouldn't kill at it. But I was like, hey, how's your day going? And she's like, pretty good. It's been like, nice weather and stuff. I was like, how cool was everyone being nice? And she's like, yeah, yeah. And I was like, God, it's a beautiful day. And she was like, it is Andrew getting some extra stuff. - Oh. (laughing) And I'm not giving you, I went, oh. - Sure am. I was like, I was like, and then the thing turned for me to go. And I was like, well, have a good day. And she was like, you too. - Oh, my God. - But she was like an older Caribbean woman. - Yeah. - You could tell that to her. - Yeah. - It was like a nice thing to say. And I was like, I am getting some exercise. It's not untrue. - She's about to go home and be like, guys, I saw a miracle today. - I saw a man. - She's like, I saw a man change his life today. - I think I encouraged him. - I'm like a normal bike ride. I take all the time, yeah. - Oh, my God. - No, yeah. - Yeah, just leave me alone, actually. - Leave me alone is like a big sentiment that I have in general. - Yes. - Did I go just leave me alone? - If you're, yeah. Leave me alone on the internet big time, but there that's not gonna happen. - What's happening to you on there? - I mean, not just me, I just feel like everyone, like you can't like post anything without like some, you can't post like, I could post just, whatever, hello, I just absolutely, help me, no. You could post like, hey guys, I'm unusual, I'm donating to charity today. - Yeah. - And people would be like, you have insane hands or something, you're like, well, what the hell is that about? - Yeah, they're coming for you. - They actually come from my nostrils all the time. I talk about it a lot. - You've told me that this is a thing. - All the time. - Or just like in general, you go to someone else's video and then like the first comment is like, nothing to do with the video and you're like, this person, I guess we all just need therapy. - I don't know. - Yeah, and you don't think so. - Maybe, I don't know. I think that, I'm just worried about people. Everyone's mean. - I am too. People are mean and people are not, we're just not connected. - No, we never need to connect. - It's a lot of anti-social behavior that I'm like, it also even people I like, people that, you know, sometimes I don't wanna talk too much about like the internet, but some people that comment things to me were like, like when I make a joke about like lesbians or something. - Yeah, yeah. - And like lesbians, like 10 lesbians will comment and be like, thousands of people love the joke. - Yes. - And then 10 people will be like, I don't like that he feels comfortable speaking on people this way. - I know, my God. - And it's like, the disconnect that you're having is that I have actual friends in real life. (laughing) But you live your whole identity plays out on the internet. And the disconnect that we're having and the reason you feel so genuinely and righteously and confidently upset is because your whole dynamic takes place with unreal people through screens. And I am living in the real world with real actual people. And this is how real people talk to each other. Real friends feel comfortable speaking on each other's identities and stuff like that. - That was in percent. - Because we're actual friends. - Yes. - And you're living a screen-mediated life that the only thing that gives you power and connection is like policing and likes and upvotes and comments. - Yes. - And that's the disconnect we're not having. The disconnect we're having is not actually a moral one. - No. - It's actually like a, I don't even know how to say it, but it's actually like a, I live in the real world and you don't have thing. And that's not to say that you're stupid or anything. I think they're usually quite smart. I'm just like, we're living two different lives and the reason I don't care about what you have to say is because I don't want to live like you. - No. - Do you know what I'm saying? - Absolutely. - But policing thing is great. Like everyone's like, "Hey, cab." But then they're like, "You said Sherbert was gay seven years ago." - Right. - And it is a little gay. Why would it be those colors? - Why would it be those colors? - It could taste that way without being those colors. That's pretty obvious to me. - We need to bring back the show, the real world, I think, and get people off from the internet on it. - Did you ever watch it? - I feel like I saw some of it. - That's disgusting. - The real world? - Yeah. - They would like go to different cities and all live in a house together? - I remember the cities. - Do I remember people picked to live in a house? - The restrangers that are telling them what it is. - Yeah. - Tell them what it is. - I feel like I've seen like clips. - Yeah, yeah, clips, yeah. - But I never really like sat down and watched it. I don't think I was never a big TV guy. - Bring it back. - What? - Bring it back. - You know I'm like TV. - There was like a couple things I watched, but I've never been a big TV guy. - What do you do? - I listen to music a lot. - Yeah, you actually are music freak. - I listen to music a lot, and I really don't like, so much of I think watching TV like really, like being good at keeping up with something is watching TV alone. - Yeah. - And I don't like hanging out alone that much. - Oh yeah, that's mean. - So I like to, I like, or if I am hanging out alone, I like to go to a coffee shop and like, write or like, work on something. Not in the, not like that, but you know what I mean? Like I feel I get really bored. - It's kind of different as in a music. I don't enjoy charity. It's kind of different for me. - I'm just like listening to music and like, seeing people. - Honey, I'm watching TLC, learning channel, I'm watching a thousand-pun sisters. - Are you? - Absolutely, they're the funniest. I just think it's like, is such a, what'd you say? - I said fuck yeah, it's one of my favorite shows. - Fuck yeah, it's one of my favorite shows. I think people, you know, they're like, a little, like 600 pound life is like, what's the word exploit? - Exploited? - Thank you so much. I did go to a state school, so I don't really know that kind of stuff. It's just like, they're the funniest people in the world and they're so, like, they're so joyful and, you know, and I just also think it's like a good middle of the country. Like, let's get to know, not just East Coast West Coast. Come on. - Yeah. - They're funny. - Did they live in Missouri? - No, they live in Kentucky. - Kentucky. - Kentucky. - Same difference. - No, and they're, they actually lost, they both lost on a weight. They're crazy as hell. Tammy came out as pansexual and her family, her whole family was like, what the hell? A pan, I'm not like, it was amazing. - That is really fun. - Yeah, absolutely. - Yeah, and like, yeah, they're awesome. They make some of the most disgusting food you've ever seen, like, just genuinely trying though. - Yeah. - One time they were like making, she was making Alfredo sauce, but she was like, I'm gonna put chocolate in it to do like a, a white chocolate to make it like a mole. And people were like, I don't think so. - It's a good for her for trying to. - Good for her. - Yeah. - Disgust, and then her whole family goes, this is the worst thing we've ever had. - God forbid a woman in STEM experiment. - She had an idea she went with it. Like, what the hell? What's so wrong with that? - Well folks, I have some pretty exciting news. After I went on her show, me and Kylie Kelsey got to, oh, it's Kylie, okay. Me and Kylie Kelsey got to talking, and we came up with something I think that we're gonna like. And that's watching a dang football game together. Kylie and I are not just watching the Chiefs vs Colts game together on Sunday, November 23rd. We'll also be live chatting about it in a WhatsApp group chat. I'm really excited about this one, actually. I love her so much. And you can join to see what we're saying with the chat from WhatsApp and Off-Ball. Spots will be limited, so stay tuned on the so true social accounts for the signup link. And thank you Virginia in advance for posting those. - I watch a lot of TV out. I'm just like, you know, I'm chillin' watch TV. Not dating, not listening to music, actually. - Yeah. - I listen to music, I listen to. - Is there anything you're big on right now? Any music you're like really big on at the moment? - Well, I'm loving the Lee Islands album. Obviously so good. Audrey Hobert's album this year was like, I listened to it nonstop. I'm gonna be feel like a teenager. - Do you remember, I mentioned this to someone recently and they gave me kind of crazy eyes. Am I the only one who remembers in "Pitch Perfect" the puppets to the "Lily Islands" song? ♪ Oh, thank you ♪ ♪ Fuck you, baby, baby ♪ ♪ I don't remember the puppets ♪ - This is like starting to become like a monocle thing, I mean, that'll affect where I'm like, am I the only one who remembers the puppets? They were puppeting to that song. - They're called the "Saka Pelas". - Yeah. - Oh, they were like competition. - But it was like an interstitial. It was like, yeah, it was like a one cutaway gag chance you will move off the screen, Christ. - You're showing me a blank screen. - He has like one job and he can't I pull up the picture. Maggie, I'm so sorry that, yeah. - Oh, good for them. Other actual sock puppets, too. - The way he totally tuned me out. (laughing) - Just trying to recover and start to bounce back. - Your microphone matches your shirt. - It's kinda nice. - You guys can see it's pink and pink. He's representing women today 'cause pink is girl, boy. Sorry, are you okay? - Maggie, why do you have a blue mic? - Oh, big news. - I actually, I'm a strong sheer and sometimes I feel bad about it. - Really? - Yeah. - Why is that? - Well, I wish I could, you know, down your bend, but I'm kinda like, girl, top. My scroll's inside of me. - You're making trainer. (laughing) - She follows me on TikTok, so not talk about my friend, making trainer. - Making trainer. - Yeah. - What was her song? - About that bass. - About that bass. And then she said. - I was a hit. - What was the one that was like, if there was like a line that was like, if you're fat or something about like, oh, that. - I gotta focus on it. - I do have ideas, yeah. - You for sure, yeah. - She had some lyric that was like, people were like, going crazy about it. They're like, you're making fun of skinny people. It's like for ones, yeah. - Good, I don't care. - No, I don't care at all. - I have never once cared. The thin people are always trying to get a like. - Yeah. - Wow. Change skinny to fat here and see if you like it. (laughing) No, I won't. And shut the fuck up. I'm told to eat a cheeseburger a lot. I'm like, that would be, if someone told me that, I would feel happy. - Do you know what I would do if someone told me to eat a cheeseburger? - What? - I would. - And I'd be fine to have a great day. - You like smash or are you like big? - Oh, I like smashburgers. - Yeah, smash. - I don't like when a burger is like huge. - Oh, like a Mondo burger from. - Yeah, one of my big complaints actually is when they do sandwiches too much. - Yes. - If I can't grab it like this. - I can get the mouth around. - You can take one bite with just my regular mouth. - Yeah. - Like unhinge my jaw, like a fucking anaconda to get in there. - Yeah. - You're sandwich is way too big. - It's not cool that you did that. - Let's get it down. - Yeah, let's get it down. And let's have a good sauce to veggie to meat ratio. - Oh my gosh, yeah. If there's no sauce. - My mouth is watering. - Oh my God, I'm hungry. I'm not a lunch. - We got waters and hook it up. - You know, there's a poke place near here that I like. - Oh my God. - Maybe I get poke after this. - I had poke for the first time in Hawaii. - Do you like it? - I loved it. - I got into seafood last year. Lobster, crab, what's the shrimp? Thank you. - What's the shrimp? - Hold on, hold on. I'm coming. I'm coming up with it. - Shim, shim, shim, shim, shim. - And now, and then I had poke and it was amazing. I'm trying. But like when people are like, do you want like fish? I'm like, oh, let me think about that. - Yeah. - Like a brand-zino or something? - Yeah, oh, I like a brand-zino though. - Oh, I'll get there. - You'll get there. - I'll get there. - A total get there. - I'm nervous. - It's fun to order for the table. My dad loves fish and he's always like, come on. - Fish is great. - Try the fish. - Fish is one of those seafood in general is one of those things that like I can, I can eat a filling amount and not feel bad afterwards. - Yeah, yeah. - Which is nice. - Yeah, shrimp cocktail change my life. - Shrimp cocktail is everything. today. Please listen if you want, but if you don't want to, there's no problem at all. Um, it, you got to, we got to get you on it sometime. I would love to come on, but why are you saying don't listen if you don't want to, do you need people to? I want people to make their own choice and live their life. No, listen, please. Even actually, if you don't, if you listen to your, like, I don't love this, just play it and walk away. Yeah. Yeah. I need that right now. Yeah. Do the same for us by the way. Oh, yeah. Come on. How's it going? What is it? It's fine. Yeah. I was at first, like, obviously, I talked to you. I was like, I don't know, podcasting. I don't know. There's so many podcasts. Um, do I, do they need my voice? But I'm like, you know, fuck it. I'm gonna do it. Someone else's staple view is amazing producing it. So it's like, I had to show up, rock out. What's your car? Go with my car. Um, yeah. I'm gonna have, uh, and follow and your footsteps have my dad on it. I know your mom on it. Yeah. My mom, I said, my dad's gonna be out of my mom. I'm like, what the hell? Like one day, girl. She goes, what the hell? Yeah. And you go, who taught you that? She said that I would die. Yeah. That's so funny. Yeah. Um, yeah. The pot. I'm just film some here. Someone LA all over the damn place. What's been your favorite and least favorite part of since starting it? Since starting it. Yeah. Like, what is the thing you've loved? Is there a thing you've been surprised about? Is there a thing you've been like that you've kind of hated that you didn't expect to? I tell me about the process of doing it because I think it's so. Yeah. It's, it's interesting because when I started mine, when I started this one, it was kind of like, Oh, we'll just see if it takes or not. And now it's become like, is it doing okay? It's okay. It's people do people know about it. It's accidentally become like the most vital part of my creative life, actually. Yeah. I'm seeing, um, kind of it next to so cutting videos every day. Which I, that's good for us. Yeah. Yeah. We like that. But what about, how's it been for you? What is the, what have you learned so far? The thing I, yeah, I think it's interesting to like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I was filming some in New York and to have to like go somewhere to do something is always hard. Yeah. And you're like, I have to get up and I have to go. And then I get there and the guest is always a blast and I'm always laughing, laughing, laughing. Uh, the internet part of it is hard. Your team obviously is like, we want to get the clips and go in about people love the clips. And then you, again, share a clip and the internet is always weird about everything. So that's like the harder part, but getting to like laugh with people, getting to laugh with people, write this down guys, getting to laugh with people is amazing. But this in your notes, y'all, come on, put this in your affirmations. Yeah, it's fun. It is fun. I'm excited to see where it goes. You know, I don't know. Yeah. Also what you were saying about showing up anywhere that you have to be. Yeah. Nightmare. Yeah. Even if I, and then I get there, I'm like, this is awesome. I was like, it's almost every time. Yes. But the, but here's what I'll say in our defense. Yeah. Those few times that you didn't want to go to something and you powered through and then you ended up being right and it sucks. Oh, those, yeah. Those have a lot more sticking power than the more times that you go to something and it turns out to be awesome. Yes. It's a more visceral feeling of like, God damn it. Yeah. I didn't trust myself. Yes. So there's a sticking power with that. Yeah. What's the last time we showed up something and you were like, this sucked? Um, usually for me, it's when I, I'm like, what? No, usually for me, it's when I agree to go to a second or third bar. Oh, I never regret going to the first one. I almost always the first one is like, good for you. You got out. You saw people. You said, hello. It was really nice seeing everybody. You loved it. You felt energized by it and inspired and it was fun to see your friends. When I agree to go to the second or third place, it's usually about seven minutes into that that I go, you should have fucking called it. Yeah. It should have been over. You should have just called it. All the time on tour, not so much anymore, but we used to be like, go to a really fun bar, meet cool people and they'd really come to this, like sometimes they'd come to our apartment. And let me walk in the apartment. I go, these people are 22. I need to get, I'm, this, I'm about to get, like, not that anything's happening, but it's like, I'm about to be like on a TV show. Like, yeah, 35-year-old woman is a 22-year-old woman's house. Why? Yeah. It's just how it feels. I'm like, I need to go actually. It's like that, uh, Snapchat screenshot of that woman where it's like, so there's a 56-year-old woman here. Yeah. That's me. I'm like, I'm the corner like, it's just, it's just not. And especially like, as I get older, I'm like, I need to just go to bed. Like, it's not, it doesn't feel good anymore. Yeah. Except if I do say out, if I say out to like two or three, it's like whatever, if I say out, like, till six a.m. or something, I'm like, this is the crazy, the greatest night of my life. And I'm not even doing drugs. Yeah. I want to make that clear. Yeah. The audience. But what's, like, I must have been having the time of my life. You must have been. It's happens when you work a lot. You stay. Eric is crazy. I know. It's funny. I wondered if living there, I would be out a lot more. Yeah. And I will say there, there are more often nights in New York that I that I have been out and I look at my the time. Yeah. And I go, oh my god, it's 3 a.m. Yeah. Now, I'm not one of these New York people that's like, oh my god, the sun's coming up. I'll catch it before them. Yeah. But it is just easier to be out late on accident. Yeah, exactly. And a fun way. You're having a blast. Look at your phone. What the hell? I will say, I lived in LA for four, I lived in LA for four years. Yes. And I will say every time I thought that I would be like, oh my god, it must be like midnight. Check my phone. It's 730. Yeah. Oh, everyone in LA is like, oh, we must have to go to bed now. Oh, you're like, we just got here. We just got here. Yeah. Like no time. It's really tough out there. I got to get up and hike and drink juice. They do. They do. They love it. I don't like that stuff so much. I have tried, like, I did the hike a few times and it's just like so funny. I'm like, I could do this and then I get to the top. I'm like, my friends are like, wow, like, I'm like, Jesus, great. I don't feel empowered by that. Then for one week, I like, I'm like, I feel empowered for a week of like, I did that. Yeah. Then I'm eating KFC, Nashville. Dude, they're good. I would be lying if I said I wasn't feeling it right now. Oh, I used to get the, when I was in high school, they had like the mini slider sandwiches. Oh, I don't know those. Why are they calling Twisterbites or something? I've like, give me through the fries. Oh, they had wedges. They had wedges, fries. They're wedges. Their season wedges were good. Yeah. No, they don't. Rest in peace. Fuck. Fuck. We have a question for you. Oh, I'm can't wait to hear it. If you, if someone, okay, if someone came to you right now, some like rich person, ethical, ethical millionaire, ethical, okay, ethical millionaire came to you and they were like, we have, we'll say three million dollars. Okay. We have three million dollars. You have to spend, it's kind of a Brewsters million situation. You have to spend every cent of it on one creative project. Oh. What would you make with it? Like, what would you spend? It doesn't have to be, like, it can be anything, but what, what, what would you spend three million dollars on? So I can't like buy a house. This is like a, no, you have to spend it on a creative project. And what it can be is if you're like, oh, I have an idea for a movie that would probably only cost a million. Yeah. You can just pay everyone. Yeah. You know, I mean, what would be your thing? I would make a movie for sure. What would the movie be? Um, oh, my God. Are you going to give me three million dollars today? He's like, they think about it. It depends on how good this pitch is. Oh, my God. I don't know. I wasn't prepared. I need other, um, I, I have a TV show idea, but I need to think of a good movie idea. Yeah. I have one because I moved in with my parents this year, shout out. And last year actually, and it was like during the election, but it's weird because my dad is liberal, but it was like being 35 living back at home with my, my dad who talks about Trump every single day. Yeah. I think it would be a fun movie. Yeah. Yeah. And like, just like our relationship. That, I wonder if your dad is like my grandpa, my grandpa is like a, I will wife long railroad guy. Yeah. You would never expect it. He fucking hates Trump. Oh, yeah. And he hates him to the point where we're like, all right, man. Like, oh, we hate him to, but he brings it up so often. It's like, we're actually, we hate him in a way where we're trying not to think about him. Yeah. It'll be in the middle of dinner. There's like too long of a pause and he'll be like, at god damn, corrupt Trump. And it's like, no, we know. And we agree. And thank god. You feel that way? The exact same. My dad did a breakfast. I'm sitting there. He's like, guess who was on 60 minutes last night? I was like, can you go Trump? So I didn't watch it. I'm like, okay. Why are you telling me that? I was like, what was he talking about? And he goes, I don't know. I didn't watch it. I'm like, the mind's like, what? Yeah. He talks about it. And like, I actually called my one time. I was like, you talk about Trump. I was like, so does your mom. I'm like, what? No, she doesn't. He's obsessed. She's obsessed. She's voted for him six times. Did you do the math? No, no. She's, yeah. She has a pen on her bag right now that says he's an idiot. Love. Doesn't say the word Trump just says he's an idiot. She's like, I want people to point it out. Queen. I know. She wants him to go who? And she goes, Trump. Trump. Who's an idiot? The liar in chief. No, literally. I know. I love it. I love like, we, part of, I think part of our national healing is going to have to be re-embracing cornball. Yes. Like, democracy now lives. Yeah. Like, we're going to have to bring them back into the fold and actually be proud of that. Like, RBG tote. Like, we're going to have to be proud of them again. Photo of me at 22 futures female. Yeah. Nasty woman. Oh, I had an eye with her shirt that I, I wore every day that I could. Yeah. Because I was in Southern Missouri and I wanted to, I wanted people to know, like, I'm not like these other fuckers. That's what I'm with her. I'm unusual. I'm with her. I'm with her. I'm with her. I loved that shirt. Oh, my God. Yeah. I was with her. Yeah, I was in a lot of ways. I was with her. You know, I was with her. And I, and it's funny because now I look back and I'm like, if I knew now what I know now, if I knew then, if I knew then now what I could have known then for now. Yeah. If I now knew then. Yes. No, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have been with her so hard. But at the time, I didn't know so much about like, I didn't know so much about like, like, neo-caw. Yes. More hockey. Like, I didn't know so many things that I know now. So I was just like, oh my God. I didn't know who likes gay people. I'm with her. And she's in politics. Yeah. You know, it's a beautiful time when I didn't know who Jeffrey Epstein was, you know? - Didn't know who Jeffrey Epstein was. - And I did make a huge mistake the other day of downloading the victim's book onto my Kindle on the plane, 'cause I panicked and I couldn't find my AirPods, and I said, "Let me just download a book and on fiction." And then it's the most, I mean, it's obviously, it's just most scary. (laughs) I'm on the plane going, (screams) screaming in my head off. - What are you? - It's really scary stuff. - It's obviously not funny. - Do you want me to bring this up on the, it's just like the idea of you getting kind of bored and going like, I guess I'll download the Epstein victim's book is like, that's crazy. - And then now I feel kind of a guilt where I'm like, I have to read it 'cause she told her story, like I have to read it. - Yeah, we have to listen to it. - Every page my eyes are bleeding 'cause it's, - No, it's terrific. - Yeah. What would you do if you could make a project at any project right now? - Well, I am making it actually with Trashmot, which is really nice, but for ex, if someone came to me with a fresh $3 million and I couldn't invest it into Trashmountain. - Yeah. - And was like, what would you make? I have this idea for a script that I don't want to spoil, but I have this movie idea. It's sort of a seeking a friend for the end of the world, meets her five minutes in the future type movie. That's like pretty grounded in our current reality, but just a little bit pushed forward. - Yeah. - And it's a script I've been really, I haven't written it yet, but I've outlined the entire thing in my head and talked to some friends about it, and I've gotten some really good feedback, and I would probably make that. - That's, I hope that somebody sends you a box of chocolate with $3 million. - Yeah, it's a Warner Brothers message to me. Can we send chocolate? - No, I need money. - No, I need money. - You're not an idiot, sorry, you guys are amazing. - No, you guys are awesome. - Please. - I'm kind of in a head space lately of just being like, I just wanted to do, because I do this, and this is like my, the podcast is kind of like my job. You know what I mean? It's like, I love doing it. I get to chitchat with buddies, we get to laugh, we get to hang out with Nicole and Chance, and it's a really nice gig. Then I'm like, okay, so then when I'm making movies and stuff, I just really want to make cool, weird artsy shit. - Yes, yeah. - That's kind of where I'm at with it where I'm like, I actually don't have any desire to be in like, I don't want, if I'm making it, I'll go and be in like, I'll be like a number seven funny side character in a big huge studio movie. - Hang on five. - For sure, I would go and do something silly and something like that. But for my projects, I'm like, I used to think I would write big studio comedies for myself to start up and like, actually, I kind of think at least for the next couple of years, if not maybe forever, I want to make like sub five. - Yes, yeah. - Like indie stuff. - Freaky stuff, yeah. - Yeah, like fun stuff that has like-- - We need art, we need art, you know? - We need an indie film revival. - Oh my god, we do, yeah. - We need that. There used to be like, Sundance and like, all the festivals used to, like, there used to be this awesome type of indie movie that came out all the time that we like rarely see anymore. - Like what? - That I'm like missing. - Yeah. - Like even something like, you think about like, a little mason shine. - Oh my god, she's doing that. - Where it's like, where it's like, where are those kind of movies really anymore? - Let us make them. - Well, we should make them. - We're not scared too. - We should, we're not scared too. - I'm not scared, a lot of people are saying. - I'm working down the barrel. We're not scared to make indie movies, me and Maggie. - Yeah. - We're not scared to work crazy days for weird amounts of money. - Weird amounts of money, we need a chef on site because we don't wanna be eating the fried stuff. - We need a chef on site because if we don't have one, we will forget about the concept of vegetables. - I will be eating Taco Bell in a way that is not right. - I wish I could make everyone listening to this understand the, like, the kind of self satisfaction I feel when I order a side of fruit. - Oh my god. - Like at breakfast this morning, like he was like, do you want like, do you want like garlicky fried home fries or do you want a side of fruit? And I was like, that's easy. I'll have the side of fruit. - Yeah. - You know, and I felt so like. - Yeah. - You know, crazy. - He wrote that down and he said, good for him. - He was like, he starts tearing up. He's like, awesome man. (laughing) - The chefs are gonna love that. - Hey, good shit dude. - Yes. - He like kind of gives me a little nookie again. - Yes. - He's like, I'm really proud of you. - Yes. - Yes. - 100%. - Oh my god. Why did he just give me the finger? I'm gonna have a crazy if he did. - Chances really antagonistic with the guests. - If I, I love my dad, it was like so. He's just like beyond like, can't even like, put a little butter in something. - Really? - He's like, today he's not easy making chickpea orzo stew. And I had to go, okay, yeah, I have to hear that. - Sounds cool for you and mom. - Yeah. - I'll be picking up KFC on my mom. - If I walked into my house with KFC, I think my dad would call the cops. I'm serious. - Really? - Yeah, I don't know. He's like. - He's healthcare. - He never, we never like, we got local fast food, but we never got like chain fast food growing up. - Yeah. - And then when I was like on my own, I was like. - You're like, I need to see what this is all about. - When I discovered Taco Bell, I said, my life is over. - You know, I don't have the thing with Taco Bell that a lot of people have. - I know. - Taco Bell feels like people have a real affinity. - Yeah. - They're like locked in on it. - I think it's cool. I enjoy it sometimes. - Are you pissed at me for locking in on Taco Bell? - No, no, I just wish I felt, you know what Taco Bell is for me? - Yeah. - When you're like talking with a group of friends like two in the morning after a night out and where like, what should we order? - Yeah. - For me, I'm always like McDonald's is more the vibe. - Okay, okay. - But everyone always feels like it's what Taco Bell, and I will say, Taco Bell is the best for just like throwing 75 things in the car and then spreading it on a table with like 10 of your friends and being like, kinda it doesn't matter who got what. Just grab something. - Yeah. - It's like we just get like 20 soft shell tacos if you get here. - Come on, go. - You know? - That's the round. - It's a very specific order though. - I was about to say what you do in order. - I get the grilled cheese burrito, we'll check in, the side of avocado ranch. - Ooh, other avocado ranch is good. - Oh my God, yeah. And when they forget it, I'm spiraling. - You can't believe the way I've reacted. When I do order McDonald's, if it's, you know, it's like later I need like a really quick meal and they forget my hot mustard. - Oh. - I could put my head through a window. I'm like how, I literally out loud in my apartment alone have said to myself, I'm like how hard is it? How hard is it? - Don't look at the sauce. - Put the sauce in the back. - Yes. - Yeah, I get, I'm like, God damn, I get so in way. - You don't think I don't want sauce? What am I dripping in his dry? - I'm gonna eat dry for this, like a fucking hamster. - Yeah, like a hamster. - Ew. - Ugh. - I get real. - I get angry. - Yeah, I get really pissed. - That's so not right. - No, yeah, I'm trying to eat less of it though, of course. - That's food. - Yeah, 'cause on the road it's so, you know what, like late night, like I have like two less wine than I'm like a little taco bill, but then it's like, and then I'm going to sleep a heartburn to hell. - What? - Acid reflect up like now. - What do you love like four in the morning? - Yes. - Like, oh my God, am I gonna. - It's not worth it anymore. - I'm gonna die. - Yeah, I'm gonna die. - Yeah. - Not for me. - Yeah. I stopped eating, I pretty much don't eat fast food on the road anymore for the first part of the week. Sometimes obviously. - Good for him. - Good for him. But the reason is because I started to, like, part of my travel packing started to be bringing tombs. - Oh, I know. - Yeah. - Probably a different solution to this. - Yes. - Then, like, half-finged to travel with tombs. - I heard. - It was like, stop having ifsy, Nashville hot nuggets at 11 p.m. - Yes. - Maggie Winters, what's so true to you? - Oh my God. Well, I was gonna say, we're early. We kind of already said it, it was neat. So, what's so true to me is leave me alone. (laughing) Like, and I see what, unless it's with kindness, but like, if you just leave me alone with the other stuff. - Yeah. - Leave us all, like, just leave everyone alone. - So, can you give me an instance recently of when you haven't been left alone that someone should have left your own? And not on the internet, but I'm talking like in real life. - Oh, in real life? Well, I think the ADHD girl was kind of, like, leave me alone. - Leave me alone. - Oh, okay. - You don't need to diagnose me. - No, or like, I had an Uber driver who was like, you, he was just, I don't know, or like, you have to be taking Ashruganda. And I was like, hello. He was like, he was like, when we write it down for you, I was like, no, I know the word Ashruganda, like, you don't need, he's like, you have to be taking it. Leave me alone. And I don't have to be taking anything, drive me to my place. - Leave me alone with Maggie Winters. The Maggie Winters podcast. - Leave me alone. - That would be my negative podcast after dark. - Leave me alone. - Is that Ashruganda? And then he, like, wrote down some other thing. I said, I don't need this. - Yeah. - But of course, no, I didn't say that. I was going, thank you, yes. - Of course. - Yeah, please write it down. - Yeah, the cart, throw it away. - Yeah. - He, like, looked back at his brain. He was like, oh, God, she needs Ashruganda. - What does it do, Ashruganda? And he told me every single thing I locked it all out. - I don't even know what it does. - Health and happiness. - Yeah, it is an earned stress, maybe. - That is commonly promoted for stress and anxiety reduction. - Leave me alone. Chance? - I'm kind of like, maybe I need to take Ashruganda. - Fuck. - On accident. I'm like, no, leave Maggie alone, but maybe hit me up. I might need to hear the pitch, as it turns out. - Like, my mom is like constantly like, she, she, whenever someone else gets a brand deal, like, comes to the room, she's like, Connor just did a Heinz commercial. - I'm going leave me. - What do you want? - She's like, did you even call Heinz and ask if they wanted you? - No, yeah. She used to tell me, I'm like, I just think you should email Stephen Colbert. - Did you? - Oh. - Well, what's his email? - [email protected]. - Oh my God. - One crazy thing. I can't remember if this has come up on the podcast before or not, but one crazy thing is like, famous people's emails are what you think they. - It's literally, we stop [email protected]. Like they, like, they literally are like, famous people's emails. - Somebody got a season assist. - Almost every time I see a famous person's email, I'm like, really? It's crazy. - Yeah, I mean, do you change your email if you go like reach a point of fame? - Yeah, I've definitely noticed. I've noticed that there's a certain level of famous, where first of all, they're not even on the threads. When you get to a certain level of famous, it's like, you're never emailing with them directly. - Yeah. very well. if a famous person has emailed me with me directly, then their email becomes like, it's like, it's like, whistle jump. - Yeah. - It's like, it's like, yeah, it's like not even a name, it's nothing you could think of. - Do you think Taylor Swift like texts? - For sure, for sure, yeah. - I just think about that, I'm like, you know, people are like, like I would be, like, did she have the time? - I don't save anyone's, I had a famous person recently, give me their phone number, and they, when they texted me, they were like, they were like, "What's your phone when I'm texting you?" And they gave them my phone number, and they texted me like, a version of their name, I don't want to put this person on blast, so I'm not gonna say, but they texted me a version of their name that was like-- - Looney! - Only we would know that it was them, like if someone else had seen it in an accident. And in that moment, I was like, oh no, I have every famous person's number saved in my phone as like, first and last name. - Yes. - So I'm like, that would be really bad. - Remember when I, I remember when you first, like, were fame, fame and fortune, I was like, can you put me in a group text with me, if you've Phoebe Bridger's in Polipel, and you were like, yeah, that would be awesome to do. - Did I do it? - No, but you were like, what'd that be funny? - I'm so sorry. - No, I mean, obviously, if you did that, they would be like, what's wrong with you? But it was like the idea of being in, like you adding like me to a group text with these people. - Hey guys, you're seeing what's up. Also the idea of the four of us, the idea of the three of us, or the four of us, talking about sort of anything is so funny. - Yeah, that'd be fun. I should do that today. - Yeah, I would just put, I need a famous person. - Yeah, after that Phoebe and Paula, if you're watching, let me know if it's okay that I put you in a group text with Maggie. They watch, they're watching this episode. - They don't know, no. - What if they were both listening to this right now and they were like, oh my God. They call me, start the group text, start the group text. - I would cry, I would cry, Joey. - You know who will be listening to this episode? - Who? - Waxahatchee. - Oh, upset. - Oh my God. - She'll text me, she'll text me like two hours after an episode has come out and been like, loving this one. - Wait, that's so sweet. - She's up on it, dude. - That's amazing. - She's put on a new record. - What is it called? - The project is called Snowcaps. - Okay. - It's her and her sister, Allison, who had an idea of. - Yes. - Her and Allison. - And I'm in New York. - Yes, at the At Kevin's, was it the baby's show that we went to? - Yeah, I was shaking. - I was like, yeah, Katie and Allison and Jake, or MJ Linderman and Brad Cook both played on it. - Oh, I can't wait to listen. - It's really good. - Yeah. - Snowcaps. Down now, go check out Snowcaps right away. - Yeah, and then my podcast after. - And then show it's in order. Watch and listen to this whole thing. Subscribe to my substack. Check out the bonus content with Maggie on substack. Then you can go listen to the full Snowcaps album. And then if you have time, you can listen to Maggie's podcast. - Thank you so much. - Which I haven't gotten to be on yet, but when I do, it'll be really good. - It'll be good, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna do like a kind of a after dark one with you. - We're gonna do a leave me alone. It's gonna be, it's gonna be a leave me alone with Caleb Herron and Maggie Winters. - Perfect. - Yeah, I can't wait for that. - You know that I have a segment for you. - Of course, the questions. Which I did pretty well in the live one. I was on this live, so don't think I don't know. - In Indianapolis. - Yeah. - Maggie, I'm gonna read you 15 statements. You're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if what I just said was true or false. - I'm gonna set up for this. - And if you get 10 or more correct, Maggie, we are going to give you 50 US dollars. - Don't believe it, okay. - You ready? Time magazine was first published in 1899. - True. - False, 1923. The Cincinnati Bengals have won two Super Bowls. - False. - False, they've won zero. The human heart beats around 100,000 times a day. - False. - True. - Okay. - Lift is older than Uber. - True. - False. The original Goose Island Brewery location was in St. Louis, Missouri. - False. - False Chicago. The corporate headquarters for Taco Bell was in Irvine, California. - True. - True. - True. It takes two years for a single pineapple to fully grow. - True. - True. - True. - Beaver's mate for life. - False. - False, three. Spirit Airlines was originally called Charter One Airlines. - False. - True. The mascot for Illinois State University is Reggie Redbird. - True. - True. - That's where I went to school. - Maggie Winters was an American sitcom starring Beverly D'Angelo. - False. - False, Faith Ford. Napoleon Bonaparte was actually average height for his time period. - True. - True. It's girls can't burp. - True. - True. - When women while Miranda has six pet birds. - False. - False. How'd she do? - 10. - Wow! - And can I just say, pace was incredible. - Mm-hmm. - A pace queen. - Really good to take their time alive. - People take their time in a way that sometimes borders on insanity. - Yeah. - They're like. - There's two things on this show that I find funny about our guests. And I love all of our guests equally. (laughing) There's two things. Taking so much time in the truffles. Doesn't make me mad, just makes me laugh because we set it up as being quick. And then you, I actually don't know what to do at this point about, I don't know if we'll ever figure out how to fix this one. People refuse to plan a so true. - Oh. - I would say 95% of guests who come on this show, just simply, we ask only one thing of our guests and it's that they lightly think of a so true for them. Refuse. - So when it comes to it, they're just like, I don't know. - I can't do any number of times we've come to it and had to cut for five minutes. Take a bathroom break, let them think on it. And then the audience never sees this. Come back and then go, so what was you so true? And then the big, big, big come up with is like, Curtain should be brighter. You know, it's like, they've just like looked around the room and it's like, okay, crazy. - Yeah, that's not it. - It's like, who cares? But it really does make me laugh because I'm like, we are, it is the only thing we ask for. - It's the name of the podcast. - It's the name of the whole podcast. - Maybe they don't know. - We had some more segment ideas when we started this podcast. I mean, we still do voicemail sometimes. It's harder when we're traveling like this. - Yeah. - I'm trying to think of other, at one point, I think we were gonna like, one of the failed segments for this show was that we were gonna, we were gonna read guests like headlines and like show pictures, like show like pictures with headlines and be like, do you think this is a real headline or a fake headline? - Oh, that's fine. - Like, we were gonna bring like the news and do it. - That's worth though for a chance with it. - It's, while chance is addicted to not working. So we can't do involved things like this. - Oh man. - Oh brother. - Oh brother. - You were so hard. But no, we didn't end up doing that one. - I mean, yeah, sometimes they work sometimes they don't. I'm thinking I'm gonna add and remove segments. I like totally, I really view the show as like a living organism that I'm like, interiors, it might work totally different. Who knows? - It's art people. - Podcasting is art. - Yeah. - Oh my god. - Write that down, I'll take March. - So true merch. Podcasting is art, write it down. Somebody write it down. So true, with the so true logo. Podcasting is art. So true logo underneath it. - Oh my god, send me ones. Write that down, send me one. - I did the other day get really addicted to the idea of doing a so true museum exhibit at some point. - Oh my god. - And I'm not talking like, oh, the chair that we filmed the show and I'm talking like a weird like nothing to do with the show. Like so I went to the Yoko Ohno exhibit at the contemporary. - Oh my god. - It was fine, the contemporary did a great job on it. I just, I'm like here there on Yoko, but some of the stuff was really cool. And one of the things she did was that she, and like maybe the 70s, she did like a big building of like, oh, I'm gonna have a solo show at this museum. And then there wasn't one. And so then the show itself was actually interviewing people who showed up to see it and found out the show. So the show was the interviews. - Okay, she's tricking people around. - And they were interviewing and people were like, yeah, there's no fucking show, so we're pissed. And they're like, they're like, but doesn't that seem interesting? And they're like, no. - No. (laughing) - I mean, the interviews were-- - There's were trains here. - Fabulous. - Oh my god. You should do it's like so true exhibit. And then people walk in and it's like, - The Joe Rogan experience. - Whoa, and it's Joe sitting in a cage. - It's the real Joe. (laughing) - Like you. He's sitting in the U-Box. - Yes. - And they were like, what? - And they get to tap on the glass. Yeah, but he's got like weights and water and stuff in there. - Yeah, he's happy. He's got a cold plunge. - He's happy, yeah. He's good. - Maggie, it was such a delight to have you. - Thank you so, this is a dream in Chicago too, where we met. - Yeah, in Chicago, where we met. - Well, no, that's not true. We met in Missouri for the first time. - Oh, I guess we did. I forgot about that. - And then we became friends in Chicago. - We became friends in Chicago. - We were Caleb used to G chat me. Do you like girls yet? (laughing) And I didn't know. We would use, all of our friends had office jobs at that time, and so Google chat was how we all talked to each other at our respective office jobs. And I had so many different Google chat friendships, but yours in mind was definitely just me checking in on gay. (laughing) I would just in the middle of work to be like, what's up with you and girls yet? And you'd be like, I'm not gay at all. And I'd be like, we'll see. - Sorry, you took a pandemic to figure it out. - I've dragged a lot of-- - And still, we don't want a day being shot. I don't know what's going on. - Yeah. - What a man. - And I've dragged a lot of my girls into lesbian. I haven't yet converted a gay person to straight. And someday I'd like to try just to see. - Yeah. - But I could, do you want to work on you? - On me? - Yeah. - The thing, the way I know I'm not straight is that my life would be so immeasurably easier. - Yes. - Like every woman I meet, I have a deep soul of connection with. And most men I meet, if I could get away with it, I would kill on this spot. (laughing) - Remember when my friend Tucker, we first started hanging out, and my friend Tucker told our friend Yasi, he was like, I think Maggie doesn't know that that guy's gay. Like she thought I'd crush on you and didn't know that you were gay. - She keeps bringing him around like something. - Yeah, literally. - That was literally amazing. - That is so funny. - Yeah, I'll shout out. I love you so much, thanks for being here. - Love you, thank you. - Please tell people where they can find you. - @saggy splinters, unfortunately. Saggy with an IE. Literally life-changing, the podcast. Everywhere you can find podcasts, YouTube, of course. And you can find me in Chicago, kind of hanging around. - hanging around. - Yeah, love you. - Love you, dude. Bye. that was a hate bomb podcast.