MAGA Mondays: MAGA Influencers Secretly Working for the Pentagon

All right. Hey, everybody, it's me, Sam Stein. Managing out of the book. I'm with Will Summer and we are back for another edition of Magamunday's Will. What's going on, man? How are you doing? Hey, I'm good. I'm excited. I think we got a full docket today. I lost to discuss. I also, I should say I popped into the YouTube comments for the people who are waiting and I said, what's up? Let's go, Magamunday. What were the comments you're saying? You know, people were excited. They were saying, oh, I hope we hear more about Milo getting deported. And it's like, folks, you're going to hear about it. Don't worry about just sickos in the comments, but you're the king of the sickos. We're going to be talking about Milo, for sure. And we talk about Benny Johnson, who made a trek to Steak and Shake, which is every right wing influencers favorite burger joint. We're going to be talking about this very disturbing. We'll just like this me like five minutes before we went on, on Aaron. This is just, I just want folks know, this is what it's like to work with Will. We're sitting in the office. We're going through the topics. You know, what do you want to talk about? You know, let's, let's, let's follow up on your story about this troll army that P. Hickseth put together. Let's talk about Milo and what's going on with him and Lumer. And like, why, why, why she mad at him? And then was like, you know, there was a Nazi who fought a Jew in a 20,000 person arena in Miami and he calls himself Gypsy Killer. And like, he won as like Jesus Christ. Like what? Sick behavior. But this is what will, this is Will's day to day existence. We have a video of that apparently. Yeah. It's a, it's a sick story. But don't worry folks. We also have fun stuff. You know, as well. Okay. Well, let's throw the fun stuff. So over the weekend, actually yesterday, the post, the Washington post, we might have heard of it. Small publication, local based, falls up on Will's reporting claims and exclusive. I'll let it happen. I'll allow it. I'll allow it because they did uncover more people who beat Hickseth. Apparently, he's employing secretly as special government employees. They are right wing influencers. They are trolls. They fit exactly the frame of the type of online army that Will wrote about for false flag this past week. So Will, what's new about there's Will's piece, you could see it on screen post piece. What's new in the post piece that you didn't have? Yeah. So this is, you know, we're now entering week two of the data Republican saga. This is the post uncovered and sort of confirms there's some people in the story that I'm kind of like, I think this guy works for the Pentagon secretly. And they confirmed that and then they uncovered some new people as well. So in addition to data Republican, Republican as a sort of Pentagon special government employee, I love that you call the data Republicans. If this is like the female, like this is Spanish. And then we've got, it's kind of like Messna. Rob Menace. Rob Menace. Rob Menace. That is the menace. And, you know, he's kind of just like a conservative talking head. cynical Publius, who is a sort of former above military guy. And I think the big revelation for me personally was Kurt Schlikter, who is a, and I say this would love for Kurt, a mega blow hard. A real chatter box, a real kind of trash talking guy, who obviously I've been familiar with with a long time was a big fan of my old news letter back in the day, right, Richter? But he also was apparently secretly working for the Pentagon as he was writing, oh my gosh, Pete Higgs, what a genius. Yeah. So people have been like kind of wondering, what's the big deal? Like what's the story here? I mean, that's the story. It's like they basically, the Pentagon hired a bunch of online propagandists to go around and berate Higgs's critics and then to write pieces in publications, never disclosing that they were being paid taxpayer salaries to do it. And then with Data Republic, we're going to start calling her that. They're like, she's out there setting the predicate for government investigations that people think are, that people think are just ostensibly just data driven, but we don't know what the motivations are because clearly she's being fed stuff from Sarah Rogers at the State Department. And obviously she's on the payroll for the Pentagon. That to me is the story, right? That's right. I mean, there's still a lot of unanswered questions here. I mean, I think even the post story, which definitely advanced this investigation or what we're all looking at here, they're like, well, they were kind of on this, like some of them were on this like anti-woke D.I. Task Force meant to, you know, root out D.I. within the military academies. But even the, you know, Dan Lamont here, very, you know, experienced Pentagon reporter, people still really haven't figured out like, what is Data Republicans job supposed to be? I mean, among other things. So there's still a lot of weirdness going on here. Do we know how much they were paid? We don't, we don't even know if they were paid. Sometimes special government employees aren't paid. I suspect in some of these cases, I probably were paid. I don't know the Data Republicans working for free. You know, it is funny, though, like now some of these people are sort of coming out of the woodwork after all this time denying it or avoiding pointed questions about it. The Pentagon refusing to answer questions about it. We saw cynical pooblius say, you know, yes, I had an opportunity, you know, to work for the Pentagon. So we put up the cynical pooblius tweet. It's long. It's so long. I can't read it all. To clarify to folks, this is after the Washington Post published their story. And now he says, I would like to clarify some things. I can't read it all. But basically he says, I know, okay, I may be retired from active duty, but I'm still a soldier. My oath never expired. When my country called, I answered and accepted an offer to be on the task force, studying those same senior service colleagues in area for which I have certain expertise. I'm in a patriot and fully support the necessary efforts of the war department with respect to reform in the senior service colleges. So he admits that he was on the pair of my service with the Department of War as a special government employee was exclusively limited to participation in such task force and ended on July 26, 2026. So yeah, after he was, after his report, he wouldn't respond to Dan for the story, but after the story went up, he admits that, well, Dan's story is interesting too, because the post story, he, he says, cynical pooblius, like only was, you know, listed as an active or taken out of the Pentagon directory like last week. Like, so after all of this drama started. So, you know, one wonders what exactly is going on there. Well, and also one wonders, is this the extent of it, right? Like, what do we have? How many people do we have now? cynical, rob, Kurt, data Republican and infantry door. That's five, right? Yes. Yes. And then we'll listen to anyone. Well, John Conrad, the shipping expert, well, he was like in line to join the Pentagon and then ultimately didn't because they ghosted him. I don't know if Kurt Schlichter finally picked up the phone and they were like, we want Kurt instead or whatever. Yeah. But but then look, I mean, there, there could be more. You know, I have a free of information act request in. I'm sure Pete Hegseth is like, I need this process immediately. I want this story yet. We're looking into it. So, you know, it's a weird thing. But, you know, since we last had Mega Monday, you know, and you kind of jabbed at this, Jenna Compounds, aka data Republican has released this like weird, crazy wall, always sunny and Philadelphia type software thing where you can type in like Antifa and then see all the Antifa people that she's put into this database. So it's very odd. And I think she's actually come out with a more recent one, even just over the weekend, another one of these things. So we have a Pentagon employee who's making like databases of leftists at this at the time, at the same time that we see the administration trying to like criminalize some kinds of leftism or, you know, put, put Antifa groups on sanctions lists. So there's, there seems to be this concerted effort. As you mentioned, Sarah Rogers leaking to data Republican. And I don't quite see the, the, the exact thrust of it. We don't know every detail, but some things of foot here. Yeah. Well, yeah. And I guess this is the other thing. It's, these are paid government employees demanding investigations into our encouraging investigations into their political opponents. And that actually leads me to infantry door who, so the post had two pieces over the weekend that were very, I know where the one was this Pentagon was this story about the Pentagon installing these influencers in in taxpayer funded roles. The other was that Pete Hexeth had gotten a memo from top force our generals saying like the war in Iran is not sustainable and that really risking army readiness. If you keep doing it, it was a classified memo that was leaked. The memo wasn't leaked. The summarization of the memo was leaked to the post. And the Pentagon went nuts, like totally nuts over this. And infantry door was among them. And let's put up the first tweet that infantry door again, this is a, this is a, as far as we know, a government employee. This is a serving lieutenant colonel serving lieutenant who tweets anonymously. And he's the right Jeff Bezos at Jeff Bezos. He tags him. I'm asking you to look at this once through the eyes of the people wearing the uniform since you own the Washington Post. We volunteered and accepted the bargain. Miss birthdays, broken bodies, years away from our families, so on, so on, so on. We know a lot and we're not complaining about it. But the job is hard enough without having to wonder whether an American newspaper is going to publish classified wartime command deliberations because it's newsroom despises the administration and wants another cheap political scab fight the president secretary the pentagon whatever that's politics but when the ammunition for that fight is information tied to ongoing operations and the private judgements of senior commanders you're spending our risk to buy your headline I don't even know well that's that's because that's how AI writes Sam. That is one aspect I mean like you know just kind of one side thing here is like so many of these people just like absolutely love using AI people in this saga so it's often kind of hard to like figure out what's going on or like what they're really trying to say because they're clearly just like AI give me a 2000 word Twitter post about how much I hate Dan Lamoff. Yeah okay let's go to tweet too because he just keeps going I'm not going to read the whole things uh okay uh yeah Jeff give us a fucking chance come on man you've got a clean house at the paper the journalists are too black pill to be any of any use anymore in fact they're literally harming us our brothers and sisters are in a worse situation now due to this reporting all right whatever we can take it then so yeah I mean there you have an active duty uh uh soldier not soldier what's his job I forget his title anyway he's calling for Jeff Bezos to fire um reporters because the um active reporting the hatred infantry door and this larger kind of like headset influencer universe have for like actual Pentagon reporters is so crazy yeah and by the way data republican and John Conrad were also themselves credential fake you know reporters um you would think that like Dan Lamoff is in the weather underground or something the way that they talk about him they're just like and it's just with other people too right and they're just like they're just like this person it out to destroy the military I mean it's so crazy um you know I was thinking about this story where the the Pentagon's reaction to this the Washington Post story about like you know these generals saying I don't know I don't think the war is going so well we kind of got to figure this out they're in the QAnon community we have a saying um you know when you're getting flagged you're over the target um and you know this is in this case that the reaction to the post story people are just oh my gosh you know this is treason this is insane that I mean that tells you how sensitive they are about how badly the war is going yeah it's nutty um I had a thought around this um because I obviously they weren't like this weird new frontier where people can just go online and get you know be paid and and never disclose things and let me just say something about Rob Menace um because they they put a piece of so there's a couple things here one is they highlighted the fact that Rob Menace um wrote a piece for the daily collar which was like pretty complimentary I believe of Pete Hegseth and I wish I had the piece in front of me but that they never disclosed that he was a employee of um the Pentagon and I went back to the piece today and still not disclosed so that's like one thing here and I don't know I mean I think I obviously the the collar should absolutely disclose it and they can do so retroactively even if they didn't do it um all right here I actually have the piece right now okay so it says disloyal careers are still haunting the Pentagon's halls and it's by Rob and there's no disclosure at the end it just says retired USR Air Force Colonel 9/11 Pentagon survivor author of what you can do about it host of the Rob Menace show and so on something so that's one element of it the other element though is I want to get at was the anonymity here like a bunch of these people if you just were like perusing online and you had no clue or the wherewithal to investigate who these people were cynical pluvius you know infantry door I guess Kurt you would know because he lists his name there but like these data republican they operate with anonymity and I have a proposition to you well which is was the was Elon Musk basically scraping any sort of verification requirements on Twitter was that not one of the more like consequential social media maneuvers ever I mean we we live in a world where people can do this now yeah I think that's right I mean I I think the idea that people can you know these right I mean to be frag data republican who is able to have the verified check mark and sort of poses this expert despite being a random lady with like I guess Excel like maybe not even that you know it it is a these people come off as like you know experts or in the case of infantry door you're looking at it and you don't realize that this guy is like essentially a ptexas spokesperson you know I mean it's the these weird ways that that people you use their use their identities or sort of poses as disinterested figures one quick note about Kurt Schlichter he's also the author of a series about a fictional stories about how sick it would be if there was an American civil war and how much the red states would just like absolutely stomp the blue states so you know is this is this a guy we really want you know working for the Pentagon I don't know well it's like I don't know there's something psychological about it too so like cynical Plublius is the best example what's the guy's actual real name do we know we should know it's it's something Anderson I believe yeah it's Thomas Anderson okay I want Matt if you can find a picture of Thomas Anderson somehow like there's a picture out there of the guy and if you could just contrast it with cynical Plublius and you see this guy's actual photo and you're like this is just like a kind of like glasses wearing nerd right like this guy is like he talks at your tough game online he's got this stupid photo obviously um but he's just like this academic nerd and it does add an element of you know you can be a little bit a bit more of a tough guy when you're behind a cloak of anonymity and I think uh that's what's happening here with these guys get to just badger critics of Pete Hegseth they're on the pay uh they're on the payroll and they don't have to ever get any uh pushback because they can hide their identities you know what what thinks striking to me about the cynical Plublius apology is when he says you know no one and some of these others have said none of us were paying for our posts here well let's say we believe that right I don't necessarily believe that what like they were still you know they had this affiliation they weren't disclosing and we're headed towards this world a bunch of mega influencers went on a trip to Poland recently and they don't want to disclose who paid for it and there's they're just like well I don't know someone gave us something and I thought well that's the other thing we I mean you've read about this in like a lot which is we just don't know where the money is coming from just just absolute insane avenues of money coming in and out of these um right wing influencer operations so yeah I guess the Pentagon's getting in on the act but who knows and you know this used to be a big big scandal back in the George W Bush administration you know for us old timers we remember back when Armstrong Williams I believe was sick of being paid to ride us no child left behind in columns which is like literally essentially what's happening here I mean he was not I don't think they were saying hey I was a huge scandal that was a huge and you know remember the the Jeff Ganon who you know the gay porn guy do I remember Jeff Ganon not sure if you were quite you know pay attention to politics at that point but there was a long time ago um it's so the these things used to be like pretty big scandals and now the Pentagon is just like I don't know just like a higher five influencers and get them to say nice things about PDAXF arguably more effective arguably way more effective than getting Armstrong Williams to use some segments on Sinclair or whatever the broadcast was I mean really who how many what are their follower counts oh I mean you know cynical Publius is like north of 300 data Republican 300 thousand 300 thousand a good point good point good point um you know a little little shop talk here uh the you know genica pounds data republican is approaching a million and a million I'll say this this data republican thing I think the Coach Lick there's stuff that's certainly interesting cynical Publius but I think data republican is the one to watch here there's something up here because I think this thing where she's like making these antifa lists all this stuff I think because her actual posts about military stuff were relatively rare she attacked and risk goal who's the secretary of the army who was very an enemy of PDAXF but I think her stuff about like going after the left and antifa if there's some nexus there between the administration and you know if you work for the administration so they probably is I I think there's more to come okay you're probably right and we should get on it we do need to change topics in a second but we did find uh Thomas Anderson's actual photo so just if we put up cynical plebiscist twitter shot so you can get a sense of what this guy looks like or do we not have that met all right all right so you can see up top that's his twitter icon yeah got we got sister row or whoever just tweeting like that just imagine if he is tweeting like that would that wouldn't that land a little differently if that was his twitter icon maybe I should go with the Greek statue look you know people are like a great statesman yeah I mean honestly honest to God if he was tweeting at a bunch of journalists with that screenshot with that headshot I feel like you would be different I feel like psychological but like okay buddy I hear you I hear you say man yeah you're not a statue you're not a Greek statue for sure but like yeah okay anyways I I I I'm holding to the idea that um you on musk and getting rid of the verifications and shit like this was really consequential whatever you can you can believe it or not I think we'll just buy into it okay uh let's move on actually before we move on mark teeson a little note here so we talked about the second story um that the the post broke which is um that these four stars are advising hegsif that this is just not sustainable which like you could kind of obviously I mean that it it was clear to anyone who's watching the war right this the I guess you don't want the leaking of classified information. I certainly understand that from the perspective of the Pentagon. But it wasn't like this was blowing you out of the water in terms of revelations. Anyways, Mark Tessons' economist for the Washington Post, he believes that the sources for his colleagues who work at the Washington Post ought to be prosecuted. Mark writes, "Whoever leaked this as a traitor, and ought to be prosecuted." One, Mark on the technical terms is probably right, like it is a crime to leak classified information. I don't begrudge him for saying that, but you did work at the paper, buddy, and those are the sources for your reporters and what you're saying, essentially, is go after the sources, and you know this administration will go through the reporters to get to the sources, so not a great look for Mark. I don't know if you feel differently, Will. No, I mean, I think, you know, obviously, Mark's on the opinion side, he's still a journalist of some sort, and is employed by the Post. Yeah, and I think, you know, professional courtesy, you know, one maybe doesn't want to, you know, promote the idea that leakers should be prosecuted. I've always, you know, whoever's getting the leaks, I'm pretty cool with that. Yeah, I'm four leaks. If you have stuff to leak, we have a, we have a secure tip line, actually. If you have stuff to leak, let me see if I can pull it up, I believe it's, I'll figure it out. I'll give it a later. It's a hush line, and it's very secure. Okay, I'll get it later. Well, let's talk about Milo and Lumer and what the hell happened here. So Milo is now what? He is in, they flew him out at that night, I believe, I think they flew him out Friday night. Yeah. So look, this is the earthquake that has shaken Maga world and thrown all of Milo's enemies on the right into paroxysms of delight. They're thrilled. They couldn't be happier. So this is Milo is, of course, Milo Unopolis was deported. He was detained by ice on Friday, and like within 24 hours was shipped back to the UK, which also appears to be sort of VIP treatment. I don't think everyone else is getting that. He didn't get to Central Africa, or any country like that. Yeah, he did get sent to Seacot. And so yeah, I mean, this is a, I wish we knew more, you know, but, but I think obviously we talked about this little on the trio, but that is the state of play. He got busted. They said the DHS came out and said he had had a, his visa revoked or was in on an expired visa and had essentially skipped his final immigration hearing in July. And so they were out for him. So I asked you, and I'm going to just see the floor for a couple of minutes for you to just kind of riff here. Someone, someone asked why, because it seems pretty evident that, and she told you this, that Laura Loomer was behind this. Laura Loomer had been pushing from to be deported. You reached out to Loomer last week. You said, did you do this? I can't you re-motherfucker. And so she really did say that more or less. So she's just taking a victory lap for this. And someone emailed in to ask, can, can will, or they tweeted, can you explain why these two just don't like each other? Like what happened here? They were once thick as thieves. Really? They were, oh my gosh, yes, they were best friends. I mean, as recently as 2019, they appeared in a rally in D.C. where Milo was dressed as Laura. They were best friends. They were kind of like, you know, not quite canceled. They were sort of in the wilderness together. I mean, they were Laura famously, you know, she had changed herself to Twitter headquarters. She was kind of becoming a laughing stock on the right in sort of the last years of the Trump administration's ban from Twitter. Milo was banned from Twitter. They were buddies. But things started to change. Now what changed? Well, a couple of things. I think Milo got very close to Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is obviously a big enemy of Laura's. And you know, he was supposedly living with her. He goes throughout her book. She claims and she offered some evidence to that effect. In Marjorie Taylor Greene, you know, Laura hates other women who get prominent in the right. And Marjorie Taylor Greene, that supposedly helped to sabotage Laura's attempts to get a job in the Trump campaign. So there's that. So Milo, he recognized that Laura in some ways is what people on the internet call a law cow. Right? Like a law cow. So L-O-L-C-O-W. Right. Just someone that is kind of constantly producing laws. And so like, and in that way, Milo is himself that. But basically, he knew stuff about her. He started, like, she had these congressional campaigns and he started claiming that she was, like, sexually assaulting the male staff members. I don't think that's been proven. But basically, there were a couple of kind of moments where he, like, betrayed her, possibly because he thought she was weak and it was worth just kind of making fun of her. And so from there, that's where the bad blood truly began. And why did it escalate to the poem where she wanted him to port it, though? That seems like, well, you know, falling out one thing, going, like, sucking the ice on the guy is another. Well, Milo also, you know, Laura's kind of key interest, along with Donald Trump is, is real, right? And, you know, her special interest, if you will. And so, like, they started to, Milo affiliated himself with people like Nick Fuentes, although they've since had a falling out, most prominently with Kanye West, extremely anti-Semitic, pro-Hitler guy. And I think that was really ultimately where the riff became, you know, undoable. They became enemies for life. And so, you know, Laura obviously took this step. She claimed she's reported some other right-wing media figure to ICE as well. Stay tuned for who that's going to be. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be. Well, obviously, it's sort of a unique situation because, you know, most of America's right-wing media commentators are Americans. Right. And so, you know, it has to be someone who could get deported. I don't know. But obviously, she's really spike in the football. Is Ian Miles Chung in America? No, you know, remember, yeah, as far as we know, he's in the Emirates because he was, you know, a party club amid the missiles falling. And he was just like, you know, a couple, couple scud missiles don't scare us. Do you want to see three a.m. at the club they had? He looked so miserable. That was one of the awesome best videos. I'm waiting. I'm intrigued by who Laura's got in the crosshairs, although there's something really grotesque about just all this. Yeah. I mean, I think ultimately look. I can't tell people look not to appreciate the irony of Milo and ICE superfan who said there should be checkpoints at every daycare or whatever. I mean, a total six stuff, you know, we talked on the trio about Milo saying he was, you know, cranking it to the idea of seeing people getting deported. And obviously now he's been deported. But at the same time, you know, some people have called it a Lumer Occupied Government, Lumocracy, this, this idea that we are under the thumb of Laura Lumer and she can decide who gets deported. I can't embrace that idea. Yeah. It's a little troubling to say the least, having her make big decisions like us. I think it's just really unlikely that this naturally landed on ICE's radar. Milo was, you know, making probably roughly according to court records, like 500 grand as Kanye West manager, like associate. So I just don't think a white guy from the UK is really like top of ICE's list. I also wonder, you know, he was here on like a talented person visa. I wonder if somehow that got revoked because of Laura's scheming in the first place. We'll see. All right, well, I said we have a tips line. So if you are watching this and you work for DHS or you are the judge and Milo's immigration here. Yeah. There you go. No, just a second. I got to read it for the people who are not on YouTube. It's the bullwork.com/chips. That's the bullwork.com/chips and let me tell you folks, this is a secure hush line. Very secure. Send us your tips. It doesn't have to be just about Milo, although I'd love it if you have any insights into them. So if you're from the Pentagon and you're watching this and you have some insights into what Data Republican is doing and whether she's creating a database for Pete Higgs is to go after Libs. Hit us up. All right. Will, are you talking? Well, I was just going to run down a couple other Milo haters who have been selling. Yeah. Because each of them has such a funny little like feud with him. So let's talk about Enrique Tario, the founder of the Proud Boys, himself as a federal informant. So he has been very excited about this. Now why do Milo and Enrique hate each other? So Milo in his latter years had become like, like, he just hated everyone on the right and he loved terrorizing them. And so in this case, he links up with Enrique Tario's baby mama, this woman he had a child with who as far as it seemed, I mean, according to her, he was a deadbeat dad. And so Milo started paying some of the child support and being like Enrique, I'm sending Christmas presents to your child, even if you won't. And I think he like posed with the kid and stuff. And it got to the point where I literally thought Enrique Tario, like, might murder him. It was so crazy. And so he was just like taunting him and being like, I'm the new dad and all this stuff. It was really crazy. Because the mom was really into like terrorizing Enrique as well. So that was one aspect Elijah Schaefer. Yeah. But let's pause. There's like a cute, imagined like, dedicating a portion of your life to try to like trigger a Proud Boy. Like that. He's like a death sentence. That's not right. Well, you know, yeah, those guys, you know, they take their rules seriously. No flip-flops, no wings, all that stuff. So there was that. So he's been excited. Obviously Elijah Schaefer, you know, great flanderer, the right-wing media commentator. Milo, you know, Milo played an interesting role for me because he would often, he would get the same stuff that I got leaked to him. And then he would just, I'd be like, I got to verify this, whatever, like he had this audio. Milo. And then Milo just throw it up. And then I would say, all right. It's out there. I mean, there's this whole discussion about it now. I got to write about it. Well, no, wait, wasn't for Elijah, didn't Milo have the recordings? I think it was either right. recording of the woman Elijah Shab was having a fair with, or he had like text messages, something he just kind of threw out, and it turned out to be true. And it really obviously threw Elijah's life into chaos. You know, later it turned out to be leaked by Elijah's brother-in-law, whatever. But basically, Elijah has been casual, whatever. (laughing) He's been totally excited now. So he went on this thing where he was just, he claims he reported Milo to ICE too. - Oh, come on. Who's to say-- - How many people got to credit for this? - I mean, I think, I don't think it took a lot for people to be like, "Hey, that guy's British. "I wonder if he's here legally." So he claims that now he's launched, I think the Milo files where he says he's gonna reveal everyone who was in league with Milo or every journalist who was, you know, getting tips from Milo. And so, well, yeah, he's got a bus. Well, I'm not that worried because he went after a guy named Tony Ortiz, current revolte on Twitter who's kind of an interesting character himself, but who had covered some, he covered Elijah's jaw surgery. He got a picture of him going into the jaw search in clinic. And so he was like, "I got this notebook." This is all over the weekend. He was like, "I got this notebook of Tony Ortiz." And it's basically like practicing words. And so the implication is Tony doesn't know how to speak English, which is not true. But it's Tony's wife, I think, is Japanese. And so she is practicing English. But anyways, I'm getting a little far afield here, but like, these are kind of like the after effects. And then finally, folks, Benny Johnson. Yeah. Benny famously, Milo had accused Benny of being gay. Benny said he was going to sue him. And then he didn't sue him. And then now that Milo got deported, Benny's saying, "You can't sue a guy who's been deported by ICE, even if he clearly has assets still in the United States." So I guess I'm straight by default, essentially. You brought him up. So why don't we play the Benny? It's funny that I don't really know how-- I would never live like this where every outing to any restaurant or any experience outside or even in my house is something I use as fodder for social media and some culture war fighting. But like that is Benny's existence, where there's literally nothing that he will do that he doesn't turn into some sort of moment to throw on the webs. So let's set this up. So your biggest hater has been seized by ICE. The man who outed you. And-- I don't know if I want to give-- I don't know if-- Do you want to give Milo credit for outing, Benny? Well, who-- I feel like it's been out there before. Come on. Yeah, so the man who highlighted it, and I guess-- That's what it's aggressive like. Elevated it. Elevated these issues. And so your biggest hater is an ICE detention. Where are you going out to celebrate tonight? Let's go to the clinic. Let's play the video. What it takes to feed our small children. Here's Benny's wife. Yeah! She got hamburgers and french fries from Steak and Shake. Look at the french fries. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to be good for-- It's like good fries. Look at these. Is he have a GoPro on his? See, how is he doing that? I guess you can do it like this. So they go to Steak and Shake, which is obviously a big Maha restaurant now, because they don't cook the French fries. He says, took my family to Steak and Shake tonight for the first time. Doesn't mention Milo, but that's implied. Maha meal, seed oil-free, grass-fed, grass-finished beef, beef-tallow-fries, real milkshake. Kids loved it. 10, 10 would recommend hamburger emoji. So a little spon-con possibly. What did you make of this? Well, yeah. First thought was what I just articulated, which is you've got to like-- I just wish these people would just take the phone away. Just have a normal life. You don't need to do this. Anyhow, in terms of celebratory spots, it's-- [LAUGHS] Oh, go so hard. Yeah, go so hard. He lived a little. He had lived a little, even the sizzler. Get yourself a steak. But then, you know, I also wondered if he's being paid. Because you can't rule it out anymore. These guys are all getting paid for this shit. So there's kind of two aspects here. One is the idea that, you know, steak and shake now is getting, you know, a big thing of fries is healthy. And there were-- Well, be tallow-fries. Yeah, exactly. Some Maha people, you know, we know they've served-- RFK has served the steak and shake at the HHS cafeteria. This is like the new thing. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Stake and shake is now at HHS. They do pop-ups. It's not a permanent-- my man in HHS sent me a picture of the papa. You have a guy in HHS? So forced. So I know all about what goes into those milkshakes. So there was that. And a lot of some conservators were like, I don't know if I really buy this idea that a hamburger from steak and shake is the healthiest thing. But then the other aspect is that the family, the influencer aspect-- and it's funny you bring this up, because just this week, a guy who had previously sent death threats to Benny and his family or last week was sentenced. And Benny, you know, he filmed himself at the courthouse. Oh, he's so excited. Look, obviously, people shouldn't be doing that. It's awful if I send the guy away. But then some conservative commentators were like, well, if my family was getting death threats, I don't think I would be posting my family quite so much, Benny. Now, the reason I get into this is there's an ideological component here. When Benny says, in order to get the birth rate up, I have to show how awesome my family is. I got to get people excited about having kids. So there's kind of some motivation here that I thought was interesting that he was unpacking. His argument for posting as much as he does is that he wants people to have more kids. Yeah, so he's trying to make having kids look fun. And I got to say, watching him deliver that bladder of french fries to his kids, I was like, oh, it's kind of fun. But you and I both know how that goes. Come on. Let's be real. Well, we saw it and the thing that-- My kids like-- My kids are going to be like, I don't want a burger. I don't want that steak. I don't want a burger. I want-- where's the steak at all? I want the tenders. The kid standing on the chair is very evocative of like, we're both Benny and I are in our parenting journeys. It's like-- Yeah, we're better. Can't you just say-- Yeah, show the real shit, Benny. Like, I want the kid throwing the fries at his brother's face. I want all the fiddle. I want the chaos. I want the kid who's got a poop. As soon as you like, start the order and you have to run him to the bathroom and leave the other kids, it's good. I love my kids. Everyone thinks I don't let my kids so much. But there's kids are chaos. He's just saying, here's the burger. It's diggin' kids. Milo, you and Apple has got deported. Who? What? [LAUGHTER] Yeah, that's basically-- look at this. It's Milo. Look at this Twitter shot. Any other thoughts on Benny before I move on? Actually, it's sort of tying back to Milo. I have one more thought. So people have been talking about Milo famously said he had an external hard drive that was filled with dirt on his enemies. And he called it the vault. And he wave it around. He raved it around for like seven years or something. Now, this is one of those things where it's like, if you come at me, you're going to get like mutual destruction. So this has been actually a legal issue before, because the people who are suing Richard Spencer related to Charlottesville, this is why Richard Spencer hates Milo, because he cooperated to some extent with the people suing him. And so they said, well, actually, we would love to get that vault. So here's a subpoena. And then there was kind of like, Milo essentially said the vault was metaphorical, whatever. So I know there's a lot of excitement on the internet that Milo's going to release the vault. Maybe it's real. He's really had a lot of dirt on people, which I believe. My challenge to you, Milo, is if it's real, let's do, release it, get it out there. But I would temper your expectations a little bit. Yeah, Milo, it's the boork.com/tips. The boork.com/tips. If you have the-- I told him you can come on our YouTube. I want to break it down. So you know, I wish you hadn't just extended the invitation. It's conditioned. I made it clear that I won by the editors first. That said, you know, I'm like, who's this joining Maga Monday right now? Oh, that's a matter of that. Live from London, you know, I'm a sucker for consents. And I think you're playing on the fact that we're live right now and that I love a good interview. And that would do numbers. But you have my blessing if you want to interview Milo. If you want to come on Maga Monday, we'll keep it like a very confined 15 minute segment. We'll get his take on Loomer and what it's like to go to the end. Maybe he's like, this process has opened his eyes to the depravity of ice, and he's reformed. Oh, yeah, I'm woke now, isn't it? That's more-- is that-- that's like more-- well, it's like an Australian almost. No, that's East London. I don't know. It doesn't sound like him, does it? Try again. Tom Oman, you having a laugh? That's what he said. That's what he said. Is that he said that? You having a laugh? Tom Oman. I will say the shot, the bug shot of him was-- they did him dirty. They did. Yeah, that was crazy. That's all like the other aspect here is that DHS clearly was like spiking the football here. Like they put out the mug shot of him getting deported. They gave him that-- He looked awful. Yeah, yeah. You know, they kind of punctured the glamour, the image of that Milo. The myth of Milo with the coiffed hair and the beauty. People are saying Yuri Axe was more manchester than London, and I'm going to go with that. All right. Do we want to-- Mancunio. OK, I don't know if we want to do NG Nixon, but there was some nastiness around this. We can skip that. This is what we need to talk about, which is the thing you flag. before the show. Yeah, and it's so, I just want people to understand, if I do chuckle in this, it's because I'm so disturbed that I can't control my emotions. This is bad. Like this is the way I haven't seen it yet. Will describe it for me. It's just bad. Like there's nothing else you can say about it. And it makes me wonder how much longer we have as a society. Will, why don't you set up the stage for us, please? Yeah, so there's this guy named Gypsy Crusader. His real name is Paul Miller. And he's kind of like a extremely far-right neo-Nazi live streaming character. In the first Trump administration, he was affiliated with Nick Fuentes, although Fuentes kind of was, you know, he doesn't want to affiliate with like out and out neo-Nazis. And so he kind of distanced himself. Then he was arrested and on gun charges as a felon in possession of a gun. And he served almost two years or a thing, maybe two in prison, federal prison. Anyways, now he's back. And unfortunately, his prison term has only made him a bigger personality on the right. And he dabbles a lot in like what he Phoenix joker imagery to give you an idea of what we're working with. So on Saturday, he had, you know, these influencers do boxing matches. And so in this case, he did a boxing match at Orlando's Kia Center arena, which seats 20,000. I'd say it's about half full. So let's say 10,000 people. And he fought a Jewish guy, I think an Israeli guy named King Azole, who's like a really like kind of small fish influencer. It was the only one agreeable willing to do this. And unfortunately Gypsy Crusader 1. And there was like a lot of Nazi celebration. I mean, this is a guy with SS tattoos. It's like thunderbolt tattoos on his chest. We can see it there. You can see his waistband says joker waffin. So kind of a play on like the waffin SS. And then, you know, there was also after he won, you know, he used the k-word kite, you know, whatever. He called the Jewish guy that people were cheering. They loved it. You know, and here we can play the swastika video as well. So, you know, he himself, when he walked into the arena, him and his entourage were throwing in backstage. They were throwing up Hitler's salutes. So obviously we were I'm glad we had some fun earlier because you know, this is obviously a serious thing. But I think it's also unfortunately the kind of thing that, you know, I we we should be aware of is we discussed the right and what's happening in the right wing entertainment ecosystem. I mean, so yeah, I hadn't seen that before you you told me about it. And I'm not even sure how to react. For folks who are listening and not washing, that was a fairly large arena. It's a prominent arena. Garth Brooks plays there. I'm just looking this up now. That was pretty filled. And someone draped a swastika in front of everybody over the balcony. That is obscene. I'm like a little shaken up to be honest with you. This arena will, I just went on their their Instagram page. And this so in addition to hosting a Nazi fighter, this is what they have coming up. Disney and ice. Spotlight magic. There's Moana. There's Mickey and Mini. This arena should have to answer for this for what they did here for hosting this event. And for not having the ability to see the problems here that were about to happen. I know I'm not preaching the choir here, but this is nuts. And that's awful. Has there been anyone who's picked up on this, anyone to prominence has seen this? How does this even happen without people being like, wait a second, let's not do this. Yeah, as far as I can see, I think a couple Jewish accounts. But otherwise, that's partially why I wanted to highlight it here. Because I do think this reminds me of when Clavicular and the gang were listening to Hail Hitler and some of them were throwing up Nazi salutes in that Miami nightclub. Fortunately, it sort of just is a sign of kind of this mainstreamification, at least on the right of these kind of edgy Nazi imagery. I mean, it strikes me that there was a national baseball game and someone unfurled, Jake Lang unfurled. Yeah, it's some kind of like white supremacist banner. I can't remember what it said. And the security was like, oh my gosh, and they dragged the guy out and you're whatever. And obviously, in this case, as far as I can tell, that was not the case here. The crowd loved it. And you know, I don't get it up. It was done by the organizers. So, you know, it's disturbing stuff. But yeah, I would like to know what Kia will say about this. I would be curious if Ron DeSantis weighs in on this. I mean, I know it's not he didn't do this, but it is a state. I mean, look, folks, let's just be real about it. We've been through a couple of weeks now where we were talking about Grand Plotter and his tattoo, rightfully so. People were going nuts on that. There's a problem here on the right and the left with neo-nazism and having a spectacle like that and a serious arena is grotesque. I don't want to end on that. I want to have a little bit lighter fair. While we were doing this entire broadcast, two news stories of the same variety came out. So, Will's coming at this very fresh, so am I, honestly. The first story broken by, they're both following Kalshi, Marshall Cohen at CNN had this tweet up. He says, Kalshi says that Laurie Buckout, okay, the Republican nominee in North Carolina's first district and properly traded on her own campaign violating platform rules and is being fined $2,500 and suspended from the platform for three years. This is a Demheld seat that is now lean GOP after redistricting. How do you do this if you are the congressional candidate? Why are you betting Kalshi on your own campaign? That is insane. And then the second story, our old boy, Wall Street Journal reports this, ex-congsman George Santos receives Kalshi's first ever lifetime ban decision comes at the federal regulator, alleged Santos made more than $17,000 by placing bets on his attendance at the State of the Union address. If I'm remembering correctly, Santos says, he hinted that he would be at the State of the Union address in person, then placed bets that he would not, privately, place bets that he would not go and then decide not to go and win the bets. So, Will, we have a gambling problem with Kalshi here. Yeah, you know, this is always kind of weird to me because I thought the whole point of these platforms was that you could tell what was going to happen because the insiders were placing bets and now we're told like you're not supposed to do that. Can we throw the Lori Buckout thing up again? So, I think it says she made less than $1,000 worth of bets. I mean, what's the point? You're risking your whole Kalshi for like, for like 300 bucks or something? And then I don't really tell you what exactly she was betting on. But, you know, I don't think so either. That's the thing. But they do say it was they hinted that she traded on her own campaign. So, there had to be something but like, why is Kalshi running bets on this random obscure North Carolina one campaign? I mean, who's betting on that? These platforms will run on anything, Sam. You know, when I was writing that data Republican story, they now have a contract on whether data Republican will have to testify, testify before Congress. So, you know, I mean, they're coming up with these things all the time. What's the answer doing now? Well, it was whether she'll have to testify before October. So, obviously, Republican held Congress. And so, of course, it's at 1% because, you know, they're not going to call her unless, although maybe they'll call her to be like, let's talk about Antifa. I'm trying to find data Republican right now, but it's just it's coming up data and Republican and unfortunately can't search it that well. I'm looking for some good bets to have as I bemoan betting. Will Donald Trump attend UFC 331? What do you think? He loves the UFC. He loves the brawls. So, you would put a yes bet? You know, can I just make a point about George Santos? No, I want your yes or no bet on the UFC. I'm putting a yes down 10k. Let it round. Only 7% say yes. Okay, go ahead. What about Santos? I was just going to say, George Santos was among the people celebrating Milo's exile. He was saying essentially like, you know, there's a new MAGA media queen in charge and it's me or whatever. He said something along those lines. That's not my characteristic. And it's one of these things. It's like George Santos. I know Tim is very skeptical of George Santos coverage, but it's one of those things. George Santos, come on. You'll never be, you know, as rude a character as Milo was. No, he doesn't have it in him. Although I do, you know, every now and then I do love a good George Santos story. Will Donald Trump be impeached during his term? What do you think the yeses and noes are here? I think yes should be ahead. I would really think yes. 66% say yes. 34% say no. All right. I think we're good, buddy. I got the nasty taste of the Nazi spectacle out of my mouth enough. I'm ready to seize the day. You want to tease what you're writing about today? Do you even know what you're writing that today? You know, we should talk about it. I just love the Milo story. I feel like there's a little more. It'd be a shame to not have a false flag. any false flags delving into it, because-- - All right, folks, in the comments section, right now, quickly, what should we'll write about? If you think you should write about Milo and Lumer in their fight and just Milo in general, say so. If you think you should stand the Pentagon story, which is the other one, although it seems to be like maybe more of a deep dive, or should we write about the Nazi spectacle? - Let's go. - All right, let's see it. - Where we throw it open. - Are they saying human printer? - So we got a human printer. Okay. - We got a fence gun Milo, Milo. No, someone just said no. I don't know what that means. - All right, well-- - Well, Sam, before we wrap up here, I do want to flag something. - Sure. - Folks, this is the first time we're talking about it on Mega Monday. I will be joining the Bullwark live on tour. - I was just gonna say that, buddy. - Okay, go ahead. - I'm gonna say that. But that's not the first time you're gonna be joining the Bullwark on tour. You were out with-- - Well, first time I'm saying it on Mega Monday about this tour, I mean. - Okay, gotcha. Okay, I got the whole language right here. Actually, this is serious, if you live in the South, like anywhere in the South, we're coming your way in October. It's big. We have three stops and we're calling the Good Fight Tour. And we have tickets now available. You can go to bullwark.com/events to buy your tickets. This is all happening between October 16th and October 20th. I'm about to give you the dates, but just one more time. Bullwark.com/events to get your tickets. Will's gonna be joining us for one of these dates. So here it is, me, JVL, Sarah, Tim, we're gonna be in Columbia, South Carolina, on October 16th. That's the one that Will is joining. So we're gonna be doing a trio tape in there. I'm pretty sure, right? - Yep, that's right. - Okay, yeah, so we're gonna look, you know. - Yeah. - I saved the craziest trio stuff for the live show. - You had a crazy trio story the last time we did it. - We had when we were in San Diego, I unveiled Bertaria, the secret, the Bertaria community. It changed San Diego forever. And the same will happen in Columbia, South Carolina. - Oh shit. Okay, you're saving up a story. So again, Will's gonna be a Columbia, South Carolina, that's October 16th. After that, we have Charlotte, North Carolina on October 18th. Gonna have a good guess there, folks, intent. And then we have Atlanta, Georgia. On the 20th to wrap things up, it's gonna be a big old, big old event. Excited for that, like a grand opera event. A lot of Bullwark people there. All right, one more time, go to bullwark.com/events to get tickets and come see these bullwark personalities and friends in your city. Or if you're not that far away, come dry. We've had people go hours, hours to see events, which is pretty amazing. We have a great community the best. All right, buddy, we did it again. We made through another Maga Monday. We won't, we have next ones, Labor Day. We haven't really decided what to do about that. - Mm-hmm. Well, I'm around, I'm not going anywhere. - I'm not around. I'm in my in-laws, so I gotta, we gotta think about how we're gonna handle that one. We might push the Maga Monday back. We'll do our best to let folks know. We'll let you know in one of Will's newsletters, okay? We're gonna let you know in one of those newsletters when the next Maga Monday's coming. Until then, we'll talk to you guys later. Will, have a good one. - Thanks everyone.