MAF Teeski On His Voice, "Catch A B", Lil Scoom89, Chicago, Fiancée, Jewelry, APG (Full Interview)
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The artist identifies as a hip-hop rapper and emphasizes that his natural, distinct voice is the core of his music. He has consciously eliminated ad-libs in his own performances, believing they disrupt the clarity and impact of his main vocals, which he feels stand out as unique and raw. Though he respects the artistry of ad-libs in others and acknowledges their role in some songs, he maintains that his voice is so recognizable it doesn’t need augmentation. His career growth is driven by authenticity and real-world engagement—such as a viral dance trend sparked by a sports video featuring his song "Chris Vack"—which demonstrates how audience interaction can propel success. He is signed to EPG, a label that supports emerging talent from Chicago, and values his team, especially A&Rs Eli and Danny, for their guidance. The artist is engaged to be married, with plans for a large wedding, and openly shares his jewelry collection—symbolizing both personal identity and financial growth. He believes in the power of personal expression, including body art and fashion, and sees jewelry as a form of male self-expression akin to makeup. On a deeper level, he values authenticity over trends and strongly opposes AI use in music, calling it a threat to genuine artistry and hard work. His success is not just measured by chart positions but by real fan connection, personal evolution, and loyalty to his roots, including honoring his late best friend through the name "Scoom" in his music and branding.
At this point, what genre of music do you consider yourself? I'm gonna go with hip-hop. And does it get any more specific than that? I know some recording artists will say some subgenres that they consider their music, so on and so forth. I say hip-hop rap. Now, when it comes to rapping for you, what is your opinion on ad-libs in a song? It's crazy you ask that. I definitely rock with ad-libs, as far as hearing and taking them, but me personally, when I get down in the studio, I don't do ad-libs. No ad-libs whatsoever for you. Too much. And why not for you? Because my voice, you see a lot of my fans are kind of like touching on it. My voice is like, you know, extinct and you know, unique and stand out of life. A lot of people think I look used, I don't do them. Really, I don't use nothing. It's my natural voice. This is exactly how I sound. So, kind of when I do ad-libs for me, it crashes into my, you know, my bars and my main vocals. And, you know, that's the main thing in the main song. So, you know, as I grew and grew, like I used to do them as rookie, you know, because that's the part of the game. But as I grew and grew, I noticed that and I, you know, hate my bars to crash it. Because, you know, you won't be able to hear me. So, most likely I will go and announce over ad-libs nowadays. Now, for those in the audience, especially some that are new to hip-hop, are you able to explain what it in ad-libs versus an ad-lib? Yeah, for sure. I get that a lot. A lot of people get them confused and mixed up. And, you know, and even when you get active in like a new rapper, truly wouldn't even know what ends in ad-libs are. And, so, you actually are on the mic in recording because in and out, all you are doing is doubling your vocals, which means you have to say the exact same bar, which means you have to say it on the exact same time. What ad-libs do is follow after. Famous, so you'll say your bar and you'll follow after what ad-lib referring in a bar. Now, let's break some of these elements down here first. Starting with your use of discontinuing ad-libs. So first, have people notice this? Have listeners have the audience notice that you don't ad-lib anymore? Have you ever gotten comments or feedback to end? Hey, you don't do ad-libs in your music? Not too much, man. I ain't got a lot of my voice stand out so much. And, you know, I'd be having a man going and I take your attention with my vocals and also with my wordplay and what I'm saying. So, too much, you won't even, even too much pay attention to it. And, what about those day one fans of yours that even remember you from those early days of your rapping? Have they ever said, hey, we missed those ad-libs? We'd rather have you ad-lib? Have you had any of those feedback as well? I mean, I get that not too much from the fans, but from my inner circle and like my, you know, like, you know, France family, you know, because they know, like, exactly, you know, how I sound and how I being, what I do. And, I mean, I'm not too much allergic to, like I say, I'm not too much allergic of ad-libs because I love them. Like, for another artist to do it and sometimes the ad-libs is even harder than the bar. And ad-libs make certain songs, you know what I'm saying? And certain artists are known for specific ad-libs or trademark for a specific, you know what I'm saying? So, definitely, I love the game and basically, like, you know, the run, you get off it. I just don't have that going on because, you know, my voice just stands out so much, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love ad-libs and I love the game. So, it's just with me, I don't do them because it just crashes, you know, it's in my bars. Now, aside from you doing ad-libs yourself, I know sometimes recording artists, especially when they do collaborations with others, sometimes they'll have the others do ad-libs behind their verse. Has that ever happened? Have you ever collaborated with someone that threw ad-libs on a verse of yours? Uh, as of now, well, actually, when I was doing three, I'm in the right, with a top artist from Chicago, which I'm from, which I know a lot of people for me with. Buying off 17, I think it was swinging my dough. We did, you know, which was me. Big up, Buying off 17, I just saw three big artists from Chicago. I think, uh, why did big up ad-libs? And, uh, like I say, I stay away from ad-libs. So, if anybody was to do ad-libs for me, it'd kind of, like, sound off the end. Got it. Didn't know if you ever experimented in that realm. No, but I did own a specific song. So that's, you know, I just think that with my own two eyes, and it flowed with those two, because you could, you kind of couldn't notice, you know, who was doing it. But with my voice standing on the left side, it's so unique that if anyone speaks, they go, "Oh, that's not Teeski ad-libs," or "That's not," or, you know what I'm saying? So never even experimented. No other artist has even said, "Hey, let me throw some ad-libs on this." Just to try it. Now, how did it be hard, though? I'm open for it, though, for sure. I love ad-libs. Some beats and songs, you'll catch me doing ad-libs, too. Only because, uh, there's a pause in the beat. You know what I'm saying? Or the beat speed, or the BPM, which I'll talk in music, Ference, which is beats per minute, which are the producers, and you know what I'm saying? And maybe the horns are, you know, too far from each other. But the bar's placed right, but it's a big gap in the middle. And it's like, "Are you going to leave it blank, or you know what I'm saying?" So some songs truly need ad-libs. So if you hear me sitting here in ad-libs, it would be of that fascin' for, you know, fashion or form. Now, let's also break down this voice of yours. This is your real voice. Yeah, in fact. Now, was your voice even in your up-and-coming days? Was that something you were ever insecure about, ever embarrassed about before you became the artist that people know of you today? Oh, no. Oh, not at all. I love my voice. I love everything about me. I love, like, you know, I'm a fan of myself actually. You see what I'm saying? Just penitence to the game and the industry. And, you know, coming into the game, which I was a rookie, about three years ago. But I was on the underground scene for most of the years. And no one came on the scene since, you know, sounding like me, you know? And that's minus the bars or what you're saying or what you, you know what I'm saying? Doing the studio or on the internet. It's just genuine, you know? And with artists or anybody, you have to have a sound. You have to have your specific sound. You can't come into the game, biting the last person's sound or, you know what I'm saying? You gotta sound like yourself. Be yourself. And that could work with you, you know what I'm saying? And also, on the opposite end of the spectrum, was there ever someone even in your rise? Before you even started rapping that keyed in on this unique voice of yours, like was there anyone that said, you know what? You should start rapping. Your voice sounds different just talking or speaking. It might be interesting on a beat. Man, overly. A bunch of people, I get that a lot. Like, before I even get asked what's my name, I'll get a compliment on my voice. And oh, bro, I love you. Like, you sound crazy or you sound just different. Few men always say, "I love your voice." Or, you know what I'm saying? Like, I get lots and lots of comments and compliments on it. And also, you know, when I took my major, you know, and you know, made it up to hood and the trenches. Before I had single, you know, I'm big on myself and I studied myself. So when labels took interest in me, I want to know what interest did you take? Was it over the internet? Was it, you know, love? Was it this way, this way? And you know, the first thing that I say before my single was, your voice, you got a great voice. You know how I was getting scouted about all the labels? Every label told me that. Like, your voice is so, you know, it's crazy. It's so raw. So, you know, raspy and like, how did you get it? Like, you know, when they see me and meet me in person, because everything built in internet is true. So it's like a kind of crazy situation. Now, speaking of labels, care to share what imprint you're on or a part of at this point. As far as like labels, distros, so on and so forth. Shout out, EPG, shout out my label, man. It's how I can say, man, you know. And with the greatest team I can have, be with them all life, you know? It's let me out of my feet, show me everything. Fundamentals, inns and outs about everything. From dropping music, to publishing on music, to what type of deals you're under a contract, you're under, you know, just how to drop music, just how to, you know, float through, you know, bad times either, because everything, no one is on earth is perfect. So, my career has been like a roller coaster, you know? And we'll talk about that career a little bit further, but let's talk about EPG just for a moment here. Now, what's it really like? You kind of just shared a glimpse of this next answer, but just in case you wanted to add any further context, going to ask you formally here, what's it really like being a part of that team there? And it's wonderful, man. It's a blessing, you know what I'm saying? It's a sight to see for real. You know, just, well, I'm coming from, you know, and just team struggling to even get labels attention, just coming from Chicago, you know, we're mostly a smaller setting. It's not too much major record deals, or record labels there or anything like that, but we are one of the empires of the upcoming talent. So, you know, just making that out of Chicago and being in those big rooms and being in Los Angeles and Hollywood and living the life, like I dreamed about as a kid, you know what I'm saying? You know, it'll be kind of crazy, so. And we'll talk about Chicago a little bit later on in this conversation as well. But when it comes to this imprint that you're a part of, who do you have?
the closest bond with over there. Now, when I ask you this question, this could be someone in front of the scenes like you, like another recording artist or maybe someone behind the scenes, like an executive. Yeah. So, you know, too much I'm not friendly. Like, you know, not like that. I'm open arms to anybody that's open arms to me, to, you know, willing to show Jane my love, but other than that, you know, I just stick with my team who I know, what I know, I'm asked for my A&Rs, for my marketing team, for my management, for my, you know, my entourage, you know, I never switched up, I never changed, you know, we got to build now. We coming for a lot of upcoming spots and like, you know what I'm saying? So, like Eli, he plays a big part of my life. Yeah, A&R there. My parents, my CEO, for my label, always pulls me to the side and give me, you know, enlighten me on tricks and what I can do to be better and what it takes to be a great artist because you know, he didn't came across multiple and multiple and multiple of my label picking up, you know, and blowing up NBA young boy, I be all ears. He seems in it because, you know, what's nice come twice for him. And when it comes to Eli or Mike, did you have a bond with them prior to being a part of this imprint? No, you know, I also forgot my, my main guy, Danny, Danny. So that's my other A&R, like my hands on him, either my head A&R. So, I mean, as far as before this, I had no connections with no labels, I had no connections with nobody before a lot of this stuff, you know, took off. But as I was, you know, Gensara has 17 offers. So, you know, the situation is that I do have, you know, well, I had at the point, I didn't know nobody. So, everything was new to me. You see, I'm saying, but I knew someone that I was going to meet, you know, what I was on in life and what I was going to do, whoever I went under as a, you know, yeah, it was, it was going to get great. So, it feels like I knew them through all of this. Now, got a hypothetical question involving APG here, okay? If you were stranded on an island with one person from APG, who would it be and why? I want to say Danny, because if Danny changed in my life, it's admitting me to APG. But Danny, man, I could be having to think for him a lot of the times, we're the same age. That's my best friend though. I got to go with Eli. I got to go with Eli, man. Why? Because, you know, he just, he get the job done. You know, he's a, he's a, he's, he's different in the brain. You see, I'm saying, and he makes things come true, like me. He chases his dream and his dreams and milestones are so, so far. And he just understand both sides of the world. So, this would be evil. This could be good. You might have to fight off evil to get off this island. We might have to just never even have to fight off evil and just find out how you're going to get off it. We might have to build a boat. So, you know, I have to take that and you know the connections that he has. I was at Mike Karen, but that'd be cheap. So, I'm going to go with Eli because Eli got the connection from Mike Karen and get call him up and get resources. You sense that? So, I'm going to go with Mike. I'm going to go with Eli, man. That's my boy. Now, when it comes to songs, I do want to hone in on that, which is something you mentioned. You have a song that's about to go gold. Yeah. Care to share the title for those in the audience getting to know you're here for the very first time. Yeah, for sure. So, the title of that song is "Catch Your Bee" by M-A-F-T-S-E. So, everywhere, all DSPs has been out for about two and a half years, climbing up to three years. And it's my baby. It's my gold ticket. You know, it's what created me. It's what made me. It's what get people to understand the goal and the point I was trying to get to them for years, years. And, you know, I had a lot of scares of songs going viral with 500 Ks. And I even did millions, few millions, but when that song did it for me, after that, everything else was golden and fell in place. So, that's my baby. I can't wait to go gold, man. I can't wait to go gold. That's a plaque that I'm going to have ever and ever and ever. Now, what is going to ask you what's been your biggest song so far in your catalog of music? Is this the song or the answer you would reply to it? Yeah, for now. But, I'm even, you know, I challenge myself. I'm going to knock that down, being me. So, I got a hit single right now that's going crazy, which is today's time. You know what I'm saying, which is called Chris Vack, you know, and it's everywhere. Ticks like viral, it's a dance to it. I know most people who watch this video are going probably know me off that song, which is crazy. So, I'm acquiring all these new fans off all this, you know, Chris Vack, you know, I dropped my album "Schooling's Day" on January 8th of this year, which is charted at number 11, you know, which we feel 10 spots from number one, but I'm coming, even coming for that. But, at that number 11, that's the highest I've had charted with any project or anything. And that was my first album of my career. Which chart was that? Those were all genres. That was Apple. That was Sam Music. Apple Music, right? Yeah. So, those are Apple charted at 11 or Apple. Now, when it comes to both of these songs here, whichever one you want to share, oh, before you even talk about the songs, I want to just sidestep. You mentioned YouTube previously, like 30 million on YouTube. You also mentioned TikTok here. Just in case there's some, you know, fraudulent social media profiles of you on these platforms, or scammy profiles, or spammy profiles, share your official handles. Just so those in the audience know the correct one to follow. Yeah. So, Instagram, you got me, my handler, @sacchaser_099. So, that's S-A-C-K-C-H-A-S-E-R_099. On Instagram, on TikTok, you got me at M-A-F_T-S-K-F-L-L-O-M-A-F_T-S-K-E. And as of now, those are the only two. Plats I have. That's official, which I'm about to make a Twitter too. So, we don't come up on that list. But for right now, you can catch me on TikTok for IG and DSP music everywhere. Now, speaking of these two songs here, as much press and media coverage that you've done so far, are there any unknown facts or stories in regards to either of these songs that's never been publicly mentioned before? All right. So, basically, I'm going to go with Chris Beck. So, Chris Beck was dropped on a project that I dropped in last year, June 18th. And, bro, out of nowhere, the song just starts blasted, bro, which is January of 2026. So, you know, a lot of, you know, skits was getting made by all these big athletes and TikTok. And, you know, what I'm trying to get at is just, you know, just never give up on your music because you never know. And when I dropped the song, you know what I'm saying, I did decent numbers, but it didn't do no viral or none of that. So, when TikTok picks it up with these, you know, edits with these sports edits and, you know, all the big players using them. And the edits is going crazy dumb likes. Like, 90K likes, 80K, like dumb viral, you know, and there was use for sports. And then, you know, out of nowhere, you know, TikTok liked it, liked it to sound, picked it up, and made a dance. Pull those it up even more. So, basically what I'm saying is the tool, the internet as a tool, any artist on the upcoming man, you got to, you got to use it. You got to make a TikTok. You got to post your music, no matter what the like says, no matter what you do. Never give up on your song. A true musical, definitely last. Exactly. One song for a long time. And when it comes to all those postings, dances, song, and so forth, whether it was viral or not, did you have a personal favorite? Me personally. Yeah. I got to go with Chris back, right now. I got to go with Chris back. No, but did you have a personal favorite of someone co-signing that song or posting that song or dancing to it? Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean, as far as the viral Chris, man, everybody didn't post it to the song. Everybody, like, you know what I'm saying? But as far as a man one, man, I love them all. Especially just the dances. But the sport illustrations, bro, was overly dope, bro. And if you know what you know, I'm from Chicago, Illinois, you know, you know, we bet down. So, this man, big, big, this man. So, Kayla Williams used the song even on his posts. You know, when we beat the green baby packers in his last season and the post season. So, you know, it's just, you know, as, as it get bigger, you know, from left to right, from the sports to the viral dances, you know what I'm saying? It's just a massive piece and it shows you what one song will do for your life. Now, side stepping with that, do you ever take advantage of a moment like that? So, for example, when you see Kayla Williams reposting it or posting it, so on and so forth, do you shoot him a DM and say, hey, I want to go attend that next game of yours at home. Do you do stuff like I
I know some recording artists will use those reposts and posts and co-signs to start a conversation. Sometimes they wait for those to conversate with them. Just wanted to see how you felt about stuff like that. - Yeah, I love it. I love it, man. That's them, that's what I already be looking out for. Just like, what was I, how to show Saturday? Just Saturday, the game, and the average just got injured. He was warming up to gangsta with some money. I gotta show you, maybe just with a temple. I mean, it's sort of a temple. So things like that, that's what I live for. Like, you know, I'm trying to get to the marinas and the marinas stages and, you know what I'm saying? I definitely was supposed to go to the next game after Caleb William posted it, which my label called me and asked me, "Yo bro, we got these tickets." Trying to go to this show. Trying to go to this game, I was going to go and I was all up for it, but it was literally negative. Three, I'm like, "Man, you know, I'm anemic. "To my fans, you know, I'm cold blooded. "I'm like, "Man, I can't do it, man. "I can't do it, man." And just for clarification here, when you say anemic, is that something a doctor told you, you're actually anemic, or is that just like your own personal feeling, your own self-diagnosis here? - No, no, that's, I'm really, I'm really un. I'm really listening. I'm already diagnosed with being anemic. I got low blood, so yeah, you know, I get cold at night, cold, you know? I'm a girl on the phone right now. And she'll tell you, "I'd be cold, I'll rail my feet on her every night. "I'll rail my feet on my feet every night, man, I get warm." - Now, when it comes to these, like, reposts and so on and so forth, do you ever, and it could be another recording artist that posts you or co-signs you, do you ever play offense and try to, you know, start a relationship or a bond with these people, or do you wait for them to message you or try to, do you play defense when it comes to stuff like that? - Oh, yeah, you know, defense wins games. You know, offense just says, "Take it." So, definitely, you know, I'm all up for the relations, and like I mentioned earlier, you know, like, you know, anyone that comes with me with open arms, you know, I definitely catch it. You know, it's a gift from God, especially like, a higher power looking down on you. Like, you know, it's always higher God, so no matter what love you at. So, even at this high level, I'm at this artist that's bigger than me that I'm still in the work with, and I can't wait to work with, you know what I'm saying? So, I'm not put, I threw my book back up prior to this side. I'm not scared to hit nobody up first. I just, you know, do state of myself, 'cause I'm not friendly, but other than that, if anyone want to work like, I'm ready, like, you know, like, I'm ready to do multi-million views, which I'm ready to, like, put my power with your power, and like, you know what I'm saying? Do what's supposed to get done. - And when it comes to that mentality of, you know, waiting for those to, you know, be with open arms, and then you reciprocate that back, is that something you've always had, or is that something you grew into? So, for example, where you, maybe the one that was open arms once upon a time, and something happened, and now you wait for others to be open to you instead of you being open first. - Yeah, I mean, you know, just especially coming from Chicago with the upcoming, you know, like, like, I reach for flying off 17, and like, you know, for example, like, long live my little bro, Luscombe, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we out here rapping the same thing, I reach for him, like, I love, like, the upcoming, I reach, like, you know what I'm saying? So, it's no, like, G. Herbore reached for me, G. Herbore reached for all the time. So, it's like, it's always good to do that, and share your, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause we ain't gonna be doing this forever, bro. We don't have to change our, our feels one day. Why not share your, see what I'm saying? Let you just say, "Haila." - And also, you know, you mentioned blessings, and God, and so on and so forth. So, I wanna ask you this as well, if you're open to answering. What is your opinion on religion? Do you follow religion, perhaps, at this point in your life? - Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know, I'm big. Like, I'm not gonna say I'm big on religion, but I have a great relationship with God. See what I'm saying? And God did, God the reason all is going on. God the reason I'm sitting in front of you, bro. Like, you've been, God the reason. Everything is my record deal. How good I am with music. How great I've gotten with music. See what I'm saying? You know, it's everything. You know, I don't know about the next person, I don't judge the next person, because what you believe in, is what you truly believe in, nobody else can, you know, get in front of that, but me personally, you know, I'm a Christian and believe in God. And, you know, definitely like things like that, family. - And when it comes to Christianity as well, does it get any more specific than that for you? Like, sometimes there's denominations and branches under the Christian umbrella that people, you know, dive a little bit deeper with. - I mean, as far as things like that, I'm like, I'm not like overly, like, and things. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm more like, am I music more than anything? And like, but I'm like going to church on Sundays and knowing about, you know, what happened in the Bible and why the world is the way it is. From my way and my belief, I'm definitely hip too and into it. But other like things like deeper in, like even in my, you know, like Christianity, I'm like, I don't be into things like that. - And when it comes to Christianity as well, just almost done with that portion of the questions here, was that something you were raised to follow? Perhaps, or was that something you chose on your own? - I mean, you know, that's just what I hear it to. And, you know, that's what my whole family believe in, things like that. So, you know, that's more likely, like, what any family does, like, it's not gonna be like, you believe in one thing, your mom believe in like, so you really, like, you know, talk these things as a young age and, you know, you talk to around with 'em and talk, talk, you know, it's for you to teach your kids. So, you know, we all love to, like, kind of like, want umbrella with that thing, you know what I'm saying? - And when you say families that both mother and father side of you, okay. - Yeah, for sure. - Got it. And, okay. And, you know, also, when it comes to, you know, talking about these songs here, you mentioned the phrase viral as well. Curious, what's your definition of viral? How do you know when something is viral in your opinion? - You know, his love was the thing. I tell people that all the time. So, people see me doing me, like, one me and a lot, like, you know, that's just a bucket for me. A real hit is a multi-mean, you know what I'm saying? 13 me, 12 me, you know, even, you know, like, five me. That's multi-mean and viral is a viral moment in a situation. As far as, like, Chris Vic with TikTok and, like, if you go look at the stats, you know, with viral, you look at the stats, you'll be able to see that it's gonna be crazy, nothing but crazy, revenue coming in, crazy, everything. So, and it'd be all of one song or one situation for me. So, viral moment, if you look at TikTok, you know, I had, like, if you go look at TikTok, top viral 50, I was number two. I had the number one spot. Also, I had two songs in the top 10, just like last week. I got to go check the stats again, but I had two songs in the top 50 viral, which I was at number two with Chris Vic with 350,000 posts is made to one sound. And then, I was number nine with Gucci with 130k sounds made to, I mean, videos made to one sound. And this was all just last week and one week. So, all of this is recent and what we're doing now in today's timing. And once again, here, any other unknown facts or stories in regards to either of these songs never publicly mentioned before. - I mean, Catchy B was not written, didn't write it. It was more of a vibe and also, I didn't even, yeah, I'm saying it wasn't written. And also, Catchy B was the first song I dropped as a sound artist. So, I had it in my phone, you know what I'm saying? I was getting scouted by labels and I was dropping, dropping, dropping. I even dropped slick season in my first big stage. That was my last independent, you know, 'cause I was working on music. Like, I have love for music. I didn't been working on it before my label. And that's how they found me and signed me things like that. But Catchy B was actually the first song I turned in as a sound artist in the first video I shot with a label. And it blows up literally. And I also got to ask you this, okay? As old as that previous song is and as new as this other song is that you mentioned, because it's 26 now, was there any AI technology used in either of these songs? - At all, I don't play with no bots. Only with none of that. From Instagram or whatever. You can see, you can tell. You know, play with bots and we're done. So, seeing all this genuine work, all this work, you know? Like, I say, God did it, God, you know what I'm saying? But I put in real work, this face card strong. All I got to do is press shit and set my phone down. Okay, well, I'm mad. Instagram, TikTok, everything going falling in place. And I just get 'em new merch and ammo up for them to comment on new things daily. - And how can you spot someone that's body? - You know, just see comments from people from Africa. Like, all the type of weird shit. Well, people out of your likes turned off. Well, you know what I'm saying? You see these white people coming on this black person stuff that you know that he's not even. That's not his crowd, or that's not the type of people he live around, or from his city, or you see what I'm saying? So, you know who planned, you know what's what, you know what's figured, what's real. And in that, now I do. - And do you think when it comes to AI, however, do you think AI is just a trend, or a permanent fixture moving forward?
Yeah, I was a trend, I should fake it. I really don't like it because people can cheat. And this is really about cheating, man. We working hard for this, man. So it's just kind of bumble, like, you know, nowadays that's around because person can make a song and hide my voice on it nowadays. It's crazy, yeah, it's crazy, bro. They need to stop, they need to kill it. And just winding down the questions here as well in regards to either of these songs. Did you know when you were creating, recording, or releasing these songs that they would end up becoming one of your biggest, if not the biggest, in your current catalog of music? Uh, man, I'm gonna go, one I knew I was truly it was catchabee. Like, you know, 'cause I didn't have a second verse. And that came, the second verse came with, "Can't wait to see John Dane. I'm gonna bust my old mouth down." Like, you know, like an eye shot catchabee as you can see. Like, these are my babies, like, everybody know that? Like, Johnny Dane did them. So, when I made catchabee, I didn't have diamonds in my mouth. And, I mean, you know? As you can see, like, I live without a rock. Like, I meant to fasten, I'm gonna go chase it. So, I'm gonna catchabee when they had the first, you know? 50 seconds done, I already knew it was a slammer. I just didn't know how I was gonna drop it, or when I was gonna shoot the video. Like, I didn't know how none of that set up yet. So, and what about Chris Vack? Chris Vack, 'cause it caught me off guard, overly, like, you know? It was just me just, just rapping. I tried 10 times harder. Well, a million times harder, don't catchabee then. Chris Vack, and that shows you how, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not about what you like. It's about what the fans gonna pick up, how they gonna pick it up, and you rock with that out there. That's what music is, you know what I'm saying? So, one song, you had that feeling it was gonna do something big. The other song, you slept on it, and it went past your expectation. So, gotta ask you this then. Generally speaking, when it comes to your music, are you good at predicting the outcome of how far they will get? Yeah, I'm pretty good at that. I got a good, yeah. Like, my lately, this season, you see what I'm saying? My choice, you know, just, it's all about your rhythm and like, how you shooting it, you know what I'm saying? So, I got five songs right here, and three of them hits. But I can make full hits out of this five, because the order I dropped them in, you see what I'm saying? I kept their attention. So, I'm gonna come with the hardest one first, then the hardest one second, then I'm gonna drop the fake. That's not tough, it's one third, then I'm gonna come back with a hard hitter and try to follow up. And hopefully, you know, with that wrapped around, you know, with that being number three, and wrapped around full hard songs, that should make that do a million. You see what I mean? So, if there was a circle chart of a hundred percent, what's the percentage that you're good at predicting the outcome of how far your songs will get? Reasonability, I mean, realistically, I'm gonna go with 65%, realistically. No, no funny shit, no funny shit, no trying to play that, no funny shit. I could say about it now, but that'd be me trolling, or you know, putting, giving myself to my smile, but I'm gonna go with 65% 'cause I know what I know. Now, even though you're at 65%, is there anyone in your inner circle, your team, so on and so forth, that's even better than that percentage at guessing how well your music will do? I'm gonna fucking eat that nice. I'm gonna fucking eat that nice with that. Why, 'cause it's been some of that I hate it. For example, I'm gonna give you my money on it. So, money on it, I hate it the fucking song, bro. Like, I thought it was a terrible song, bro. I thought it was a terrible song, bro. Like, and Eli was just so on it. Like, you know, 'cause I made the demo, you know what I'm saying, 50 seconds or a minute knock, didn't even finish it. Like, you know, 'cause I was just goofing around and it's just, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. I know I'm a little illistered, but I got a big ass gun. It's just like, I don't know, but today, that motherfucker like rocks the show, like rocks the whole build and like, man, like performing wise, that's probably my best performance on a lot. Why it's easy, as simple as catchy, you know what I'm saying? So, it's even, I'll do catchy beat in a performance scene. It can't be a way more tripple-ed, but performance wise, money on it's gonna go crazy than catchy beat. And it just shocked my mind. We always like, talk about that shit like me. Eli, I'll be like, damn, bro, I gotta get it to you, bro. 'Cause I shot the video 'cause he just kept saying, come on, 'cause he dropped his shit. That's dropped. I'm like, I'm a guile, bro. So, all my drops don't even be mad. It might be from my label. I'm gonna be for me, you know what I'm saying? And what was it about that song that you hated exactly? Just how simple it was. Like, it's one, two, three rap, ABC shit, but it ain't all about what you're saying and how you'd say it is. What you, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. You rocking it out as you, you know what I'm saying? I can be counting up one, two, three, if I'm saying it wrong, it's hell on a good beat. It might be a, hit a multi-me. You never know. And what percentage would you say Eli's at? If you're at 65. And like that is hell, Eli's like a 70. We ride around each other, though. 'Cause I can't get him on it. 'Cause he'd be perfect, he'd be a fucking me. A multi-me and a fucking me out of him, you know? Anything else you wanna mention about either of these songs or question you weren't asked, people wanna know just about them. I mean, you asked most of the questions, I get asked about them that, you know, for the internet that I don't really get the answer. So this was a great interview. 'Cause you asked me a lot of the shit, the fans be on and knowing shit, you know? And as big as either of these songs have been for you, are there any flaws in any of them whenever you listen to them again? No, they actually get better, bro. 'Cause I'd be seeing like, "Oh, I see what the fan seat count." You know what I'm saying? 'Cause when I'm making it, I'm on a different mindset. When I'm listening, it's shit out. And they got the views under it and I get the hardest what they like, I get the, you know what I'm trying to, and I be, that should be growing on me. Like, my young grew on me as an artist, as a song, as a fan, like everything. And I'm a little fucking song that I'm like, doing the hardest shit I ever made to me, you know? It's great. Now, I do wanna ask you this as well. And this is something, well, before I even ask you this, I do wanna sidestep with this. You mentioned that you were born in 1998. Now, just in case there's some misinformation online about you, share to share your birthday as well. The month and the day, perhaps. - Yeah, for sure. Jo and Tim, Jim and I, baby, man. - So what age would that put you at today? - Uh, right now, as of today, when we standing, I'm 27. And it's May, it was April 30th, 2026. I'm 27, so I'll be 28 next month, man. I got 30 more days of being 27 for real, man. 30, 40 more days. - Now, you had no problem sharing your birthday here. No problem sharing the year you were born or your age. There's some recording artist, when they're asked this question, they won't answer to it. Why no problem for you sharing your age here? - Well, shit, everyone. It's me living at 36, man. And shit, everyone, all the way down line. All the way down. See what I'm saying? That's fried for me. Anybody you'd get up in to not tell you the age, that's a weird shit. - Now, here's the topic that I wanted to get at before we got sidestep with that. And that is the subject of jewelry. Now, you already honed in on something here, which was Johnny Dang on the teeth. But before we go on any further with these questions, are you able to detail the jewelry you're wearing during this conversation? - Yeah, for sure, shit. So right now. - Break it down. - Right now, on my left wrist, I got a cardier, buzz down. I got a buzz down, Cuban bracelet, left wrist. Left ring finger, I got chrome heart. Buzz down ring, right here, I got 41 buzz down, Jubilee. For all the time I lost, on my pen it, I'm coming. It's my baby, big school. As soon as that, my real baby. And then, this is lettuce, then I got a Cuban. Came from Waffee, shout out Waffee. I mean, Atlanta doing this interview, so shout out Waffee, that's my boy. Waffee on the Cuban. Blue ear thing on the fit, man, you know how you rock it, man. - What about the earrings as well? Don't want to forget those. - I've got these, I've just got these, fuck these. These 25 pointers, I literally just got them bro, like, fucking, fucking last week, bro. I just upgraded and these crazy, overly crazy, only. - Let's get into some further detail here when it comes to the jewelry. Okay, starting with the teeth, respectfully asking you this, are these pullouts or perms? - All right, man, you know we got to go perngain. - And when it comes, when it comes to this set that you're sporting on camera here, does it get any more detail that you'd like to share like? - Yeah, for sure. - Okay. - You know, I'm rocking, man, I'm coming. 10 top 10 bottom, seals with five pointers. Honeycomb, honeycomb, set. Chumbo, honeycomb, honeycomb, set. Stir from Johnny Dane, Houston, Texas. And I haven't for like two years, I'm coming. I'm coming, I'm gonna take these out and get a new set too, but these are my baby's two in shit. But yeah, honeycomb, set, five pointer, jumbles, Johnny Dane, Johnny Dane Lee. - And were your teeth individually shaving down for these perms or was this grill applied to your natural teeth? - So I molded it up, it was applied
my natural teeth and everybody hated that I got my fucking teeth, but it's down because I had a perfect set of teeth bro like perfect like everything so even when I went to do my teeth and get it you know by Johnny Bain when I went to the dentist and they was putting them on they're like well you got a unique case I'm like why you say that they like because we don't have to shave your teeth because you know my shit is like square like like and I never have brushes in my life and nothing and I just always been big on my teeth brushing every day shit and they really didn't have to shave no teeth except for my vampire teeth because the capsules are kind of like square as you can see like they are like same size and all so the vampire teeth was too sharp to fit in the capsule so you have to you know just shave it and that was the only teeth that I got shaved so on this side got shaved vampire on the right side vampire all the other ones not touch and why Johnny Dang for the teeth because I imagine there's others you could have went to King of girls just growing up you know just you know I love diamonds I always love this shit just a kid just never could afford it so when I was able to afford it you know I always took my time and look even before I can afford it so I knew what I was going to you know what I'm saying so my next set I'm definitely gonna go to somebody else and go fuck somebody else I'm looking at my boy plug deal and from Houston Texas too but definitely Johnny Dang King of girls you know I'm saying Paul Wall and coming up and you know just watching videos and you know I'm saying be doing this shit forever and why potentially switching to plug there uh just different you know it's always new king in town too though you know I'm saying like I told you about music we ain't gonna be doing this forever even with interviews DJ Smalls ain't gonna be doing this forever you got to pass your torch bro family like you got to pass I told you bro so I feel like it's mostly with that you know with Gio the youngest hill and coming in the game you know I'm saying and he didn't his placement's crazy like money bag yo and he got diamonds and everybody else all the top rappers knows telling you who to fuck with real and even though you decided to go perm when it comes to the debate of pullouts versus perms where do you stand on that today pullouts country is hell like you know this shit country I'm from Midwest I'm from Chicago a little night so pullouts country that's just just imagine just being out with a bad bitch eating you know a lot whatever mistake and you take your teeth out putting them on knocking and then you got the energy done you putting them back that shit look dumb see how the girl gonna be looking at that what do you know I'm like why you got to take it fam no leave that shit in like you should be good on your hygiene keep you some floss with you you know I'm saying keep you some you know I'm saying now I know how you now I know how you feel about them today but were you ever the type to even experiment with grills coming up yeah I used to fuck with not not physically with grills but you know the looming of boys and I see the ball of blood that a little boy on this shit I used to walk around all day like that like that was my shit oh my god now let's break down the necklace here and pendant as well does this get anything more specific as far as the details oh I mean it's custom pendant you know scrolling you know I'm saying with that fight coming out that bitch that's the five you know five school and game you know I'm saying pretty real basic piece but it was 20,000 this shit and this is my rookie piece you know I ain't gonna do shit with it for sure no matter if I go which I'm gonna go to drill a wave better of course I got 10 times the fuck the most money and so you know why if you get this so this was 20,000 my boy Chris did it Chris the jeweler from Chicago my cuban on my newest pieces I got this last year will I say for my birthday last year but it was right after my birthday so it's coming up right on the year I had this this was 30,000 wafi cuban link Cartier this is about I say 18,000 really that's the one that cost like 22,000 because they got the big rocks in it and shit but you know Cardi's got a little cheaper but this bitch deal bust down I love Cardi I just deal my shit uh bracelet from wafi little thickness on it uh match the Cardi match uh that bitch was like 11,000 close to 12,000 ring chrome heart ring Chris uh about I say 4500 for the ring 41 this my baby this bitch home this was this that july my fuck and two so oh oh geez no I fuck watch this too but this that july band you know what I'm saying oh geez uh yellow and gold you know I mean white and gold with the white strip through it white diamonds uh this was 32 32,000 you know Rolex cost well way more than Cardi so right now I'm just chilling how much was the teeth how much was the earrings I tried me dang did these so yeah watchers like 32 five dang dang did the teeth that's a 30 ball plus the tax at the dentist I'm gonna come out with like 33 five on the teeth 10 top 10 bottom permanence honeycomb five pointers like I said earlier um in the earrings uh these is the flower sets wafi straight from wafi those uh 12 five I say yeah about 12,000 it was some change on it 25 pointers flower set these the biggest ones they got in this setting so after this I'm gonna go solitary one down in this shit just be be chilling man it's about like cool little 180 on the j man close to 20 what about now and uh yes I have over 150 there uh for you if I did the math right yeah uh and um okay also breaking this down as well uh when it comes to this uh this uh pendant you mentioned scooms name yeah uh your recent project uh welcome to scooms day yeah uh a lot about scoom here how important is that to carry on that name for you man that's everything so um scoom is my best friend yeah which passed away Katie which is tattooed on my neck if you can see one of my favorites tattoo one of my most you know visuals one and that's my best friend nickname man shit I just been going hard for him since and I know what he had won't you understand this shit that we are never you with all you have and it's crazy ain't got them to you know enjoy with but I'm gonna live it up for my boy you see I'm standing you know with less going coming in the game and you know him being from a kind of another crowd believe you know kind of like a lot of similarities we pick each other up and you know I'm living it all for him too you see I'm saying like this shit is like family like you know I'm standing it's gonna get bigger and bigger and I'm gonna see you in this shit man big balls you know I'm gonna carry that torch on put the team on my back because you know there's some that lose a best friend and you know they go through their grievance they mention them at the time but they don't keep on carrying the name through music or project titles or even in the jewelry so on and so forth yeah sometimes they might do you know social media with bios and posts and hashtags but maybe not as far as you have gone with scoom's name here so just curious on uh you know why you keep saying it and how important that is to you and so on and so forth I mean I just keep on my everything turn like anything that I'm behind and I'm down the belt but I'll keep your turn from the teesky name that's me bro from slick that's my ought to ego so you know see slick all mighty uh slick seas and slick you know I'm saying different you know and that's my ought to go and you know it's all about the brand which is scoom and my best friend and name the brand that they own and you know I'm like that's everything you see everybody look left to right I'm saying I even get caught that that's even my name so there's no telling what my people call me slick teesky scoom all is one baby so I go off all these shit bro it's to the grave bro and you know that's all I I'm living for for you know and it's struggling me first and when it comes to the watches here got ask you this as well even though you decided to go custom or bust down as some say you know there are others that debate you know they choose to go factory or plane gene as some say what is your opinion on that today as well custom bust down versus factory and plane gene man if you know if you know you know this little boy shit compared to that these times ain't none shit lose value soon you leave the store so you know that plane and factory shit that that that shell value and it raids value and it it's worth more than what you bought it for when you if you do want to sell it or invest it or use it as a you know I'm saying investment like you know so it's different with that like people truth you don't like won't custom shit or whatever that's just a new way if you know I'm saying so me personally a little diamond so if you have a plane watching front of me and a bust down AP and a and a present in front of you I'm definitely gonna pick the bus down AP only because of my age and what I'm you know I'm saying but as I get older to three more years I got to get that present that girl man shit and it sounds like you got the cardier first than the Rolex yep okay levels and also a few more details here sorry for all the details but I like to get really in those when it comes to this bracelet that you're sporting on your left wrist is there a meaning behind this bracelet of yours I mean yeah I fell in love with bracelets bro and shit I might actually feel you should not want to watch without a bracelet you know this was my rookie keep it, and I'll bull you it up and put money.
money, more money, more pieces, whatever, but I'm definitely gonna come with hand, you know, a rich full of bracelets, you know what I'm saying? So really it's not supposed to be a watch on one hand, you know, which is your left hand and then your right supposed to be full of bracelets. So, you know, this bracelet specifically just, you know, building it for a minute and shit, like, like it's like clothes, it's like you can't put on a shirt without the pants. So this the shirt, this the pants, you know what I'm saying? I sported every day with my watch. And are you naturally right-handed or left-handed there? I'm naturally right-handed, but I'm impredestric, so I'm really good on my left. So I drive with my left, a shoe basketball is my right, I ride with my right, I play dice with my left hand, it's like just weird shit, like, I don't know, it's just kind of weird. And what about the ring as well? Any meaning on the finger that it's on during this interview? Looks like it's on that ring finger there, without some use for marriage. Yeah, I mean, I do have a wife, I'm about to get married to a man, so, you know, but this don't really mean shit, this is flexing shit and shit, but I'm definitely gonna get married in the next probably two years, and I'm gonna tell her 30 and have a wedding, big wedding all over the end and you gotta come small. And just for clarification there, are you formally engaged here, or this is just something? Yeah, I'm engaged as we speak. Engaged to be married? Yeah, okay. All right, and we'll wait for that invitation and hold you to that as well. I told you, bro, you got it. You got me playing for me. And what about the earrings as well? You have both of your ears pierced. What's the history behind that? There's some that do one, there's some that do none. Why two for you? Why both ears pierced? Yeah, this is what we come from, what we do, you know what I'm saying. And shit, you know, two are always better than one. Remember what age you were when you got those ears pierced? Yeah, I probably was about, what I was about. Roughest men in a grade, you were in. Yeah, like six, six, six, six, six, six, my brother pierced my ear with a needle at home. Both of them. Yeah. And did you have any health complications because of that? No, I just put an alcohol on it a lot of shit afterwards. And I bought the earrings from the beads supply, $2. Now, did your parents know this was going to happen or going on or did you do this behind their back so to speak? No, my big brother. So it's for us all boys. I'm the third and I have a little brother that was a year younger than me. So my second oldest brother, five years older than me. He burnt the needle and shit. He did, but he did, but he did his shit first. So that's how I knew. Yeah, man, I'm like, do me, do me. That's how that came up. What kind of needle? Yeah, I think it was a sewing needle, bro. I'm going to go through some flesh though because he burnt it. So when you burn it and make it like go through the flesh, I guess. And asking if you had any health complications because there's some that will not get them professionally pierced, end up having like key loits and things. Yeah, that shit nasty. I hate them a little. That shit, be looking nasty. I'm blessed with it. I'm blessed with it. And your split ears are all that issue. That shit was nasty. Now winding down the questions about jewelry here. For someone in the audience with no jewelry on, wondering what does over 150, maybe even 200 on your body at one time feel like. That shit get crazy. You're gonna shit make you feel good. That shit makes you like, man, when we change our life, we make you look at life different. You know, even though this shit material is to shit and you can get it back, anything happen. Get it back. But just being able to do the shit that nigga's ain't able to do about his shit and die. Like that shit. Like, it glow you up. It make you feel good. It make you feel exactly how it looked to the audience. Now for some people, that amount of money is the cost of a luxury vehicle. Maybe even a property or plot of land or so on and so forth. Do you ever look at your jewelry in those terms? Like, I have a car around my neck. I have a plot of land on my wrist. Do you ever look at your jewelry in those? Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. I see, I got a bar set. I don't know, I was thinking, I don't know what it is. I said, I gotta have it on the car around my neck. I gotta, I see. I said shit about it. I got a crib on my neck. I gotta, I gotta calm my wrist in the house on my neck. Yeah, that's what I said. Now, what is your opinion on those who purchased jewelry first instead of the auto vehicle or real estate? So I said dumb, bro, if you ain't a rapper, you'll fucking dumb. I go get you a real estate, you'll bid, you'll make the money, revenue, you know what I'm saying? Flip your money down by the jury. Maybe get it off credit. Maybe don't even got to spend your money on it. That's only reasonable for rappers. So what's that? Now, I know you mentioned your job description here, right? So for you, with your occupation, was it the jewelry first before the auto vehicle and the real estate, or was it a different to order there for you? I'm sorry, you read it one time, bro. Yeah, was it because of your occupation of being a rapper? Was it the jewelry first for you or was it perhaps the auto vehicle first and the real estate then the jewelry? Maybe it was the jewelry first. Yeah, me personally, it was the jewelry first. It was being a rapper in the ship, but my real estate is definitely coming this year, you know, and you know, I'm getting bigger, bigger contracts, bigger everything. So I'm definitely buying land, buildings, you know, I'm saying things that make me money after I'm robbed on it. So then two last questions here about jewelry. Is jewelry for males like makeup for females? Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Got to stay with your DJs. Just how they stay with that makeup. Got to hide out every day. That's what make you look good. That's a male. That's a grown man. And one last question here, and that is this final debate when it comes to jewelry. Now, with the cost that you've already described, it sounds like these are naturally mind diamonds here. Yeah. But there is a debate going on of naturally mind diamonds versus lab grown diamonds. Where do you stand on that debate there? Man, he's jealous. And that's like a motherfucker. That's why I'm running shopper. I'm out drilling one drill. One drill. You so you can know everything about his ass and nose unless you go fuck with another, but it's still like you never would know. Bro, we don't make jewelry, bro. But I'm against all that other shit. It shouldn't be as one. We don't need no counter trick. This should be as one. No about. No, about we gonna go for each color next. No, that's the best theory. So, you know, I just love this shit, bro. Now, zooming out. Okay, just to tie everything up in a bow here, ask you a lot of questions. Is there anything else you want to mention? Not just with jewelry, but the whole entire conversation. Is there anything you want to add to what you said for context? Is there anything maybe you want to subtract or retract from what we said during this interview? And keep rocking with me, keep fucking with me, man. If you rock with school, my rock with you, man, a little all my fans, man, we going to the top and shit get greater later. I've been telling everybody gave up on this shit, stay over there, man. Stay on that side of the fence, man. If you rock with me, you know, we've got a long run, man. I keep getting, stay on this road of course, man. It's shit going on. Was gonna ask you if you had any last words, unless what you just said there, was it? No last words. I just love y'all, man. Hey, look, you rock with me, man. Big school, man. You
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The artist identifies as a hip-hop rapper and explicitly rejects ad-libs in their own music, believing their natural, unique voice should remain the focal point of their vocals.
While personally not using ad-libs, the artist acknowledges their value in music, respects artists known for signature ad-libs, and recognizes that certain songs or beats require them for flow and impact.
The artist’s career is rooted in authenticity, with their voice and style being a defining trait from early days, and their success is tied to genuine connection with fans and real-world moments like sports collaborations.
Summary:
The artist identifies as a hip-hop rapper and emphasizes that his natural, distinct voice is the core of his music. He has consciously eliminated ad-libs in his own performances, believing they disrupt the clarity and impact of his main vocals, which he feels stand out as unique and raw. Though he respects the artistry of ad-libs in others and acknowledges their role in some songs, he maintains that his voice is so recognizable it doesn’t need augmentation.
His career growth is driven by authenticity and real-world engagement—such as a viral dance trend sparked by a sports video featuring his song "Chris Vack"—which demonstrates how audience interaction can propel success. He is signed to EPG, a label that supports emerging talent from Chicago, and values his team, especially A&Rs Eli and Danny, for their guidance. The artist is engaged to be married, with plans for a large wedding, and openly shares his jewelry collection—symbolizing both personal identity and financial growth.
He believes in the power of personal expression, including body art and fashion, and sees jewelry as a form of male self-expression akin to makeup. On a deeper level, he values authenticity over trends and strongly opposes AI use in music, calling it a threat to genuine artistry and hard work. His success is not just measured by chart positions but by real fan connection, personal evolution, and loyalty to his roots, including honoring his late best friend through the name "Scoom" in his music and branding.
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I consider myself a hip-hop rapper, specifically in the hip-hop rap subgenre.
I don't use ad-libs in my music because my voice is unique and stands out; adding them would crash into my main vocals and make it hard for listeners to focus on my bars and wordplay.
Not much from general fans, but my inner circle, like my family, has noticed that I used to do ad-libs early on and now avoid them, saying I prefer to let my voice and wordplay shine.
Yes, I believe ad-libs are valuable and sometimes even harder to execute than bars; some artists become known for their signature ad-libs, which can be a key part of their brand.
My song 'Catch Your Bee' is a personal milestone—it helped establish my identity in the industry and led to other successes, while 'Chris Vack' is currently going viral and gaining massive attention.
A viral song is one that gains massive traction on platforms like TikTok, with thousands of posts, dances, and shares—like 'Chris Vack' with over 350,000 posts and viral dances.
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