405: Mackenzie Joking with Her Friends While in Jail | Mackenzie Shirilla Jail Calls

Hey true crime besties, welcome back to an all-new episode of Cerealously. Hello, hello, hello and welcome back to an all-new episode of Cerealously. With me, you're true crime bestie, clocking in for duty here to break down more on the McKenzie Sherilla mega case with you, okay? This is obviously a bonus episode, it's not releasing in our normal release schedule cadence, but it's because there is so much I just feel like I want to share with you and if I put it all in one episode it probably be 10 hours long and the truth is too, I'm uncovering more and more as we go, which if you're brand new here and listening for the first time, welcome, first of all. But also there is so much lore in the McKenzie Sherilla case that you may want to go back on the feed and listen to the deep dives to what Netflix left out of the docky series or documentary I should say and all of this newness because I had shared with you that I have like over 600 pages of documents that I got first back in 2023 when I first started researching this case and that's how I was able to identify what Netflix left out and what was missing and give you more of like a comprehensive picture of who McKenzie really is and what happened. But we also of course have been doing our due diligence, foying, getting all sorts of information and there's been a lot that they've tried to keep under lock and key, but we have been, you know, we've had some loop holes and we've gotten a lot of stuff back and I've seen some of the jail calls floating around out there and it's little snippets here and there, but so many people are saying like, well, where's the full uncut version? There's the raw, uncensored, unedited phone calls and I got them, I've got them for you. So there's so many, so I rather than just like playing you the string of like a million calls and boring you to death with some of them, I wanted to really highlight a select handful. Now the ones I'm going to share with you today are phone calls between McKenzie and her friends, Rosie, Kendra, Faith, a mystery friend and the reason I want you to hear these is because we've one of the biggest parts of the conversation has been, is McKenzie remorseful? Has she taken accountability? Has she shown even like a tiny bit of sorrow or remorse? It's my opinion that these calls, while in jail with her friends, illustrate exactly who McKenzie is. No remorse, joking around, talking about food, jail recipes, these really great chips and jail boys, sex advice, relationship advice. She also, I think, still has very much that Regina, George, mean girl mentality because in these calls you can hear her and her friends making fun of other people, dropping the R word, like it is just regular vocabulary for her, I just like really evil, evil stuff. Making fun of people, talking about how people are slow, making fun of why they're there. I mean, just evil shit, right? And it seems like nobody is taking anything seriously and not realizing the severity of not only what has happened but what the situation currently is. So what I'm going to do is play you these calls just in sequence and I'll put on screen for those of you watching the video version of this, who the phone calls with and then like we, I have so much crap from her social media and I say crap because like that's what it is. It's pictures of her and like this can be outfits and doing whatever and I'll cycle through some of that as B roll two so you're not just staring at a black screen, but I really wanted to highlight these calls particularly for you. And at the end of the episode, I'm going to share some other information with you and we'll talk through that and what's to come because I'm going to have another episode coming for you on Friday. So I want to quickly mention that originally I was not going to post this episode on my podcast feed. I was going to only have it live over on YouTube because I just felt like with so much third party media and the jail calls that it doesn't necessarily translate as well to the audio only listener. But I did a poll over on Instagram this afternoon saying, Hey, you know, I have this extra episode. I'm thinking of putting out. It has a lot of phone calls, commentary, yes, mainly phone calls. I'm going to have it only live on YouTube, but for all my podcast listeners, would you want me to cross post it? Do you want it on the podcast feed as well? And landslide voting came in and you are requesting that it goes on the podcast feed as well. So although I know it doesn't sound like our typical episodes where it's more me talking, it's commentary, it's things like that. And I know it's more media driven this time around. I just wanted to explain the reasoning behind that. So I mean, I know it might not be your cup of tea. I apologize if it's not, but wanted to at least, you know, do what the poll majority is saying and cross post it so that you can listen to it if you are interested. So let's get into these calls. Hello. This is a collect call from yeah, an incarcerated individual at Kaya Hoga County Correction Center to pay for this call using your credit or debit card, please press one to decline this call. Press four. This call will cost 16 cents per minute plus any applicable federal, state, and local taxes plus a one time transaction fee of $3 plus the party tax through fees of 50 cents. You will only be charged the per minute rate for the amount of time you were on the phone. If you do not want to connect this call, but would like to fund an account to pay for future calls, please hang up and dial 80008446591. This call is not private. It will be recorded and may be monitored. If you believe this should be a private call, please hang up and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number. To confer to this recorded call, press one. To disconnect, thank you for using Securus. You may start the conversation now. Hello. Hey, Faith. Hi, pretty lady. I'm sorry, I missed your call, like they just fucking canceled it, like. I know. I was sitting like I had my tablet reading on your baby's book. Come on, Josh. Come on. Yeah, I know. I've seen it in my question. Mom, what the fuck is this? Did they want me to come up there? Then you're almost like they just just palm down. And so yeah, they just did. I don't know. So you've got to think of the other one. I did make another one for Friday. For tomorrow? Friday, because tomorrow we're closing, so it won't connect. Oh, so yeah. We'll just talk now, we could like, too, but like I was like, they canceled it because they will work more, but. It won't connect to any of the further jail stuff at work, so that matter will work more. Oh, I like that. Yeah, so it doesn't really connect to nothing at all for like no service out there. That's fine. How are you? Uh, so the bitch of the room next to me is like crazy, but like she's like, what? I didn't, I was like, what do you say? Huh? What is it? All right. I'm going to read a few. That was open. Who's up? Okay. Um, so I texted Roe being dead girl, did you see what's in? Okay. He said, yes, Roe, I don't follow her and said what, and then she sent me a screen set for proof and said, what the fuck never lost respect for someone so fast. She said, listen to me. I said, okay, I was going to say, girls don't do that. She said to me, I said, I don't like the public, I'm not gonna do that, I'm not gonna do that, I'm not gonna do that. Hold on. Let me tell you something so I can get you off. So what's she like? She's not on the weird shit? No. No. She unfollowed Tammy. What did Tammy say about it? Like, what did she say to say? She didn't say anything to Tammy about it or she just like blocked her. She, well, she unfollowed Tammy and said what? And Tammy was like, what do you mean what? What the fuck? Yeah. Her ugly ass. I know. That's what she's the fucking fan. As she should. Right. We'll listen to the minor. So I said, but she turned 18 soon. Oh, I was going to get me soon. My brother is an ass. Do you want to say how to come? Yeah. I know how to talk on the phone. Hello. What's up, Damien? Hi, how are you? The city. Yeah. The city is bugging here. It's bugged. Do you have any friends? Oh, yeah. That's one girl. But I'm on the mental hospital floor, yes. Like, they have crazy people here. Like, mentally ill. It's very interesting. Yeah. And you're in a girl's unit too. Yes. All girls. Very mentally ill. It's horrible. Oh, okay. Well, pay what's the phone back? All right. Okay, bye. Bit. Bit. Yeah. Is that how you something? Huh. Oh my fucking audience hurry up. Um so your cousin Jacob's been texting me. He's bad. Like texting me like all the time Ken. What is he saying? He's just like I hope you're okay. Make sure you're eating. What's wrong with him. What's her name? What's her name? They broke up. I don't know why I didn't ever ask. I didn't know if I should ask her if that was a beard for me to ask that. I don't know. I just don't ask because you know how he'd be just like taking shit the wrong way. Well that's what I'm saying. So putty's in like oh like I hope you're okay. Make sure you're eating like blah blah blah blah. I'm asking about the puppy like weird shit. What's wrong with. He's so weird. I miss him. Don't take your call. Ken said I said yeah I don't so excited blah blah blah. And then we were now gonna call him while we were on the phone so he could say hi to you. What's it called. And you didn't go through. I'm like I'm so mad. I was like screaming and causing shit. I didn't even call him. We were texting and I was like just causing a. It's like it's gonna be okay. And I'm like you don't know me clearly baby. Yeah that's just like what I don't know why they would cancel that shit. I know but I got an obligation like two minutes before it started that it canceled. So it wasn't like canceled like right away. Yes I know I was literally out of my room ready to get on the call and then I just like disappeared and it was like it's canceled. I'm like what. Yeah but I want to know why. Oh because the curious has been down all morning. So it was only some messages to you. Oh I can't even check messages. That's why there was one. So yeah it's letting me send messages to you. I was just like I love you. It'll be okay. You can call me whenever. Yeah he was like saying shit like that. And I was like laughing my dick off. And so I was like how are the powers all jealous and shit and obviously. And he's like have you had a past with this person before? And I sure lied. I was just like no. Have you done what with this person? Yes I've had a past with him before because there was text messages from like a while ago when we dated. Oh my gosh. I was like no no. What the fuck. So he's been like texting me every day. And then he's like I have school but I'll still try to text you. Like you're one of the people. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Why didn't you do that? He's in the military. I don't know. He's the one that you fly a plane. But is that called the Navy? He flies the planes or she's in the plane. I don't know if he flies or if he's in the Navy though. And you know I don't know if you remember this if we were like I told you or anything. But it was like a little bit after the car accident. And Sammy was texting me. I just can't stop thinking about this shit. And Sammy was like talking about like how like she's like brought up how like the kind of situation. Yeah well they're all fucking it's because she wants to be nosy and she wants to know everything. Well it's fine. She knows you but not being a fucking family weirdo. And that's the weird thing about it too is because when I was in like Juvie I would call Rosie on three phone calls and Sammy would be in the car being like oh I hold like oh this and this and this. Yeah what the fuck like Rosie told me that. But it makes it on why Rosie deleted all of the pictures of me. What are you eating? I'm chewing on somebody to help me. Are you talking to me? No the fucking dog. I talk into the fucking ER yesterday and he's still fucking chewing on whatever the fucking wants to be like that. And if you saw somebody of glasses you would probably eat. His eye yesterday? What happened with it? I was like big and red. It was like out of his eye. Wonder where you got that one from? What happened? They just said that they don't really know. And I said it hurt me like not $100 for an I did in test and $700 for an X-ray and like $100 today so $100. So it's gonna wreck my bill of Virginia like $2000. Hell no. So I've been feeding him chicken and white rice. And he's doing a lot better. He's already done as bad as yesterday. So he just got some shit in it. Well I honestly think it says, "Nant, we're seeing what's Adelie's Nana." Big girl, you might rip up your boss' ring. What was I saying? Oh we're seeing what's Adelie's Nana. So she has a dog but it's okay. I said Adelie's Nana has a dog and it's like 30. The dog is 30? Adelie's Nana's dog. What? So I'm staying with my friends Nana. Oh. And her dog is dirty as well. Oh baby he got some. Why are you staying? Why aren't you at home? I got kicked out. Why? He's the dog. Hey. Yeah. Why? Because of us. Because of the sheds? No because they don't want to be at the house. Well you guys got to get an apartment or some shit. I know where he's been looking for everything so the friends are right now. What is Tyler doing for work? He does window-nation in the windows like he does the windows. Hold on one second, hold on. Okay. What happened? Wait what? Do you? She asked you if you want to switch bodies. If I want to switch bodies with her? What? Man. Guess what this bitch just told my friend in here. What? She told my friend to come to the door and she's like when I die and she dies. I'm going to come back as her and she's going to come back as me. Hell no. This bitch is like, she's the one that like screams and I know you're shit. I'm going to probably come down there tonight once I get the door. Oh you are? I'm going to find you tonight. Yeah. I'll come back. What? I don't know. What time do you work? Yeah I need this. I want to go. I want to go. I want to go. You don't work today. Yeah. Y'all can all come. Well he works today. He's not trying to go so late. If you get home at 830, I'll take you to 830, but I'm not waiting for him. Oh wait. Hold up. I have a video call. Hold on. 730 and 8 I think. With who? My mom. So you can go to my house and do a video call with my mom if you want and then I'm going to be done with my video call. I'm going to take her time. It's going to be about you. Say hi. I want to talk to you too, but I'm saying I'll see you outside and shit. And the later you come at 830, it will probably be dark. Yeah. So what I can do is I just want to see if I can come over there for like a little bit. Then how do you want the phone and whatever. And then I'll grab Damian and come down. Leave me that. I'll be right back. Alright. I got you. I feel like it's my face. I know you're real. Okay. It's 320. May I say. Okay. I can't. Like, if you were here, if you were here, that's a lot to say. If you were here. Yes, but you know I would do good. If you would be like fighting, I feel like. No, I definitely would. I'd be like, you should go. I feel like, you should go. I feel like, you should go too and shit. But you've got to learn how to play space. You have to play space. No. Oh my god. It's so fun. I love space. Oh my god. She's just staring at me. I'm scared of her. She told the staff that like, she was like, she's trying to kill me. I'm like, what? Me? Like. Well, what the fuck? Yeah. She said, I think she's like, stop trying to kill me. Like, she's like, she keeps separate from others. So she has to like stay in her room all alone. Like, she's not allowed to like come out with us. No. I could, I'm general population. Right. Right. So you'll have to have your friends come with you. Would you say? So you'll have to have your friends come with you when I get there. Oh, I will. Also, if you want to take a picture of me, turn your flash on like a couple of times. So I know the like, pose are like, I'll bang. You allowed this book for, like, if you take in a video or if I'm shit. Okay. I'll throw all flash at like five times. And then you don't, but yeah. Can you see me in the window if you do flash? Um. I mean, if you, if I even dark out, you can see me in the window. Well, the last time we went, um, we saw you in that window with the light, but we can't see you in your room. Really? Yeah. Oh, my God. That's annoying. It's like, oh, it will still light out. Yeah. at that time. Yes, so maybe you remember we were looking at the wrong fucking building for a while. You have one minute left. Yes, you're going to call you back or what? Yeah, you can if you want. All right, I'm going to call you back again, but if I hang up while you're putting in information, that means we have to go in our room for meds pass, and I'm going to call you again later tonight, probably next time I come out. If I come out again, but if you come to the window. I'm going to tell you some shit when I come to the window, but I'm about to hang up and call you back right now. Okay, bye. I love you. I love you, girl. What up? I'm calling you back, right? Okay, let me get this paper out my fucking titties. Oh my goodness. All right, I'm calling you back now, bye, girl. Hello, this is a collect call from an incarcerated individual at Kaya Hoga County Correction Center. To pay for just this call using your credit or debit card, please press 1 to decline this call, press 4. This call will cost $1.16 per minute, plus any applicable federal, state, and local taxes, plus a one-time transaction fee of $3, plus third-party pass-through fees of $0.50. 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If you believe this should be a private call, please hang up and follow the facility instructions to register this number as a private number. To consent to this recorded call, press 1 to disconnect, press 2. To consent to this recorded, thank you for using Securus. Oh, that's all the information now. Hello? Hi, baby. Hey, girl. Sorry, it took me forever to put the card number in. I'm like, what the fuck is that asking me? Wait, hold up. It's all robotic and shit. Why? I don't know. What the fuck up? You know, I can do it. It's a little bit. I can do it, though. I know what you're saying. Okay. But you sound fine for me. I thought fine. Yeah. Tell me why the video call didn't work because they put it on that terminal that doesn't work, and they wouldn't get it switched over because visitation left. But if you schedule, you can reschedule it for tomorrow, and I'm going to figure out early in the day. If you can't just reschedule it for another day. I'm going to make sure it's on the other terminal. I was really so excited to talk to you. And then I just got all fucked up. And I was so upset. Well, do you know that we have another one tomorrow morning anyway? What do you say? We have another one tomorrow morning. I don't know. Nothing. We have one tomorrow morning. I have one scheduled with you tomorrow morning. I'm 30. Wait, hold up. Stayed again. Slow, though. Because, like, it's good. We have a call tomorrow morning at 10.30. I have one tomorrow. Yeah, with me. At 10.30 in the morning. But I'm money. Let me see if I can reschedule it. Yes, reschedule. Because I don't want you to lose your money. And we can do that one at night if you want. But I'll make sure they know I got a call at 10.30 in the morning tomorrow. Yeah, hold on. Let me. Can you hear me? What do you say? Okay, my phone just stripped them below me. Yes, so I have 30. I don't have a phone with me. Yeah, I think it's, like, just a phone or some shit. Like, these phones are serious. I'm not going to emergency vent with slash right now. You're on the emergency room? What's at the vent? Emergency vent with slash. What up? Stayed again. I'm so sorry. I feel bad. No, you're fine. I'm not going to see emergency vent with slash. Wait, why? What happened? He's, he's throwing up and his eyes, like, really, really strong. Oh my god, you're baby. The baby dog. Yeah. What do you say? Yeah, he just got a step further to that. I feel so bad. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I just don't even, oh no, it's been crazy in here. Like, I don't even know. Why? What's going on? Well, ever, like, there's just like, like, it's just like crazy up here. Like, this is just like the site called for that they have me on. Yeah, I heard that, but I guess it's for protection. No, I need to get moved off this floor. I like, I think I'm getting moved on this floor on, um, on Sunday, hopefully. And then Monday for court, um, I don't know. I might be leaving here soon. It headed to Mary'sville, but then I'm going to be two hours away from all you guys. I don't fuck out that two hours, and you know that's it. I'm going to be real sad though. Like, I don't like want to be so far from you guys. I'm like, I'm so sad that like, they even, like, court went like the opposite of what I thought it was going to go. Like, I thought they were going to see the truth. And then it just got fucked up. Yeah, but everything will work itself out and say, you know what I'm saying? There's a huge group set and everyone is a huge group set for you. And we're all talking about you right now. What did you say? There's a group set, your mommy. They're like, how old are people? There's 15 people on a group set all over the room for you. Oh, I love that. That's like all my, like, people, like, faith. So like, I was like, I always think I was like faith. You were really like the first one who's riding for me the hardest. And I just like wish we hung out like every single day when I was home. Like, I wish I like hung out with you more like every single day. It's okay though. We were both on different paths. Like, I was working 24/7. It's not your fault. That's just how we always were though. Like, we would be doing our own thing and come together and just be like sisters. Like, you're like, like, I'm telling you this, like, you're literally not even my best friends. Like, you're like my sister. Like, you're like, oh, like, not even on that level as best friends. Like, you are like family, like, for real, like. Were you friends with Sammy Abu? With who? Sammy Abu. Abu? Yeah, I think that's the last one. I have, why? She wants my shit. No, Sammy wasn't posting about you, but he was just hanging out with Rosie. Oh, Sammy! Yeah. She kind of like said some weird shit to me after the car accident, but then she's like, would like, a room for me. So, I don't know. You could give her my shit if you want, but also feel like. Oh, no, no, no, no. She posted on Instagram saying, "Yup." Wait, she posted the link to sign up? No, she posted the link to like whatever the news posted and captioned it, "Yup." Like, why you pee? She said, like, yes, like, it was good that I got convicted. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah, so just watch what you say to Rosie, 'cause I'm pretty sure that they're so cool. Okay, yeah, tell my mom that shit. That's weird as fuck. I knew I had a weird ass feeling about Rosie. Sammy posted the conviction and said, "Yes." With, like, exclamation marks? No, she just fucks why you pee? Like, yup. What the fuck is wrong with her weird ass? But I sent it to your mom and I've been talking to your mom like every fucking day, okay? I'm so weirded out by that shit. I'm about to, like, 'cause Rosie just sent me a long-ass, like, message being like, "Yes, like, you can live with me and Nina when you come home, like, we miss you and love you so much, like all this shit." Yeah, I just feel like that's weird though, because what your last day of court, um, she called me and was like, "Hey, what are you doing?" And I'm like, "I'm at, um, downtown, like, what's up?" She's like, "Oh, I was trying to get out of here, um, going to court today." I'm like, "Yeah, I'm downtown, like, what's up?" She's like, "I was just gonna try to see if I can get a ride with you." So I'm sort of happy when by myself. So I guess I'm not gonna go. That's what Rosie said? Yeah, but, like, so weird. Rosie is don't like me and was a thief and with me about Jada. Wait, Rosie doesn't like you because you're busy with Jada, is that what you said? Kind of basically did I told me that bug about head on her and I told Rosie and I'm Rosie once a data and did I try to say it like I was lying and shit What the fuck and I was like, you know what y'all I don't got time for the teddy-ass I'm like a bigger fish to fucking fly That's so I'm weirded the fuck out by that shit like I'm just weirded about that family shit like Fuck anyone who was posting about me like faith like you need to like be like post and being like like make people know and see the truth and shit like I know baby. I have anything you can literally ask anyone did your cousin Jacob let's do that. Wait hold up you keep pushing out. What do you say? Did your cousin Jacob like you didn't text me yet, but he said he like you I'm waiting he like signed up. I just didn't get a message yet Yeah, we were he texted me and was like thank you for being there for my family. I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like yeah You can text and I I showed him how to sign up and like text you I miss him. I just miss you guys so much like I just she just like where I don't know like who to trust and shit like I'm weirded out my rosy Like like I've been weirded out my rosy for so long because she took down all the pictures of me on her Instagram like why did you do that? That's weird. I know and I said that to your mom and I hope your mom I said listen I don't want to hurt Kenzie's feelings, but I will always do the things to tell Kenzie like listen I don't think that's for you whether she listen to me or not. It's her decision, but like I've been told Natalie. I don't talk with Rosie Yeah, it's like I'm weird. I just I'm weirded out by like her like I don't know. I'm about to just like keep you distance with her I just don't like the fact that she's bestie's it's Sammy and all those shit like and how can you do it? Yeah, no You know, I'm saying like how can you be besties as the one I'm posting on your other friends? Honestly, you should text her for me and be like, Kenzie thinks it's weird that you friends with Sammy. It's like Sammy gonna like Well, I'm gonna get your permission to text her and just be like hey like what's going on with you and Samuel? Like, I'm trying to do that. Yes, get the tea and be like how are you gonna be cool with Sammy when this I don't really and I will because I can Drop her in a second and I've been real cool with Phil too like Phil like the gay one. Yeah, so pretty cool But you know that still on them are beating where they were still a need on them are beating for a minute? I Don't know Phil and Ryder guy for me who all has free Kenzie in her Instagram bio like who is like being scared to post that because like if you're scared to like Like I haven't I haven't been on social media like I would really can't do it because I Loved it on another day and I was a nice part of that like I was popping off with my mouth with my mouth with my mouth and your mom was like Say you can't say anything because it jeopardized the trial and I said yes, I know. I just Yeah, like I've just been staying off all of the media. I can't do it. I can make me like mad like I start to shape now It's just like so weird. I don't know. Oh, I think we have to go in our room right now I'm about to pretend I didn't hear but I think we have to go in our room, but I will call you again tomorrow. Do you work tomorrow? No, you can call me all day tomorrow, but we have that we have that video call We have to get we about to talk tomorrow on the video call like I'm about to like we about to get the Big going work. I can and I have to stay plenty of time. I'm facing on my tablet Like use my phone to show you everyone's Instagram post. Yes, and to show you everything Did you say we got to go in our room? Oh, okay, I just have to take pretend. I love you so much. I can't wait to talk to you at 10 o'clock tomorrow I love you so much. I want to make video calls with me. I love you so so much girl. I love baby. Say something. Okay. Bye. I love you girl I'll talk to you later. Bye. I love you so much. Bye. Wait. Tell my mom. I said I love her too, but I love you. Bye. I love you. 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What do you say? You said hold on. Yeah. Sorry. Make a touch me. I said you want the murder. What did you say? But Jacob texted me and I'm seeing if he wants me to merge so he can say hi to you. Oh my goodness Yeah, I can't believe that shit He said he said he can't He said hi and he said he heard what? Tell him I said I love him and I miss him I miss him so much Well I have to bring Brooklyn to soccer practice Yeah, right now Can you grab blast I can get little call marks to my car I'm the second Uber 10. What did you say? I'm Damien Dover. I guess. What the fuck is she gonna give you some gas money or what I'm gonna make him As he should Do you know where his leash is? I can't What's it called though He said he's passed today, so I wasn't sure if he was gonna be able to or not I do remember when I remember like when we were having the one sleepover so long ago and Damien was just like so little like Damien I'm just like Damien has like a like a big ass like man voice now like he just is like not a little boy anymore like it's just so weird like I remember he was a little and chubby and shit and we were just like she had a little room He's not chubby anymore I know I like it's just so weird like You Can you look I gotta go put this in my car Huh I fucking can't would be Bossy retarded What's it called though? I don't know. I just do like I do Really, but you have you been eating in shit? I haven't been eating it since I normally do I've been like acting but it's like I'm not hungry I haven't been eating a lot either it's been like hard to get Like I've been hungry a lot here Yeah, I'm just like not hungry Like like yesterday. I ate a noodle out of like a chip bag You said what are you next to my car? I ate noodles out of a chip bag I'll chip it. Yes, like I had to make them in a chip bag from my sink. Well, it was like some jail-ass shit. Oh My god, I don't make a place. No, not yet. You need to because when you come out You had one before Would you say I said no, I'm so fucking good man. I'm a find someone in here who know how to make it. I'm a ass I want to try with the noodles and the chips and shit all this shit mixed together. Oh my god I have. Yes. I got commentary coming tomorrow, and I got like heli candy. I have a hot pickle coming. I have have you ever had shabangs? No Hey shabangs are crudest bug Through a jail shit. I really? Mm-hmm. Oh My mom changed my Instagram name and changed my bio and shit. I Didn't look at your bio. I haven't been on it. I have seen that it Like you ask this group, yeah, I'm so hanged. Everyone knows her Instagram name is different Yes, because I don't like when you look it up like I don't know if you know this, but like when I was at the other jail I used to go on Instagram all the time and shit It logged into Instagram. I'll tell you when I come home, but My mom knows you can tell my mom you can ask my mom and I would take pictures and send them So like sort like sort of people and shit. I think It's just like, I'm not allowed to tell a comment. I'm not getting out! I shouldn't have sent you some shit. But yeah, I was like, bitch, hey, get me into it. But yeah. I thought that would be a week. Yeah, I was like, I'm gonna have some fun. But like, ask my mom to send you some of the ones that I sent her. But yeah, I would like. So I like to see in my Instagram and shit and stuff. Like, I would see in what. That's why I know a roadie deleted all the pictures of me and shit. Yeah, well, I'm not taking pictures here too, but. That's a weirdest book. Who knows? I mean, like, they're all talking. I've done a lot of these people who want any friends with you, but I'm gone. Yeah, it's just like, kick it! If you are a real one-to-kendee or you fake one. You're a really nice little Natalie. I was like, "Mom, move and I'm not gonna be here." I'm getting off after this one. So you can just have the phone after I get up. Who's that? I'm not. I should just focus. I'm gonna be done. I'm gonna be done. So you can get on after this one. Is that one of your friends? No. I'm gonna tell you in a second. But yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What's up? She's trying to get me to, like, do a call for her. No. And I'm like, "No." Like, she's just trying to ask me for snacks and show all the time, like, "Girl, I don't got shit." Like, "Why does it get away from me?" Like, "She'd be rowing the fuck out of me." My new thing is I'm not gonna be here. What'd you say? My new thing is I'm not gonna be here. I can't understand you. Every time I said, "Your new thing is what?" What? What? She's gonna bark at me. I still can't understand it. I don't know why. It's like what it's on the phone. It's, like, really hard to understand. No, it's not. How's my history? Yes. You're gonna tell me what's up. What's going on? Really? I have a new job. And then quit. You're what? I got a new job. And then quit. Oh, I heard about Charlotte Rich. Yeah. Why'd you quit? You guys, they were trying to like do some stuff today. Like, they were trying to hire somebody for my position and make me play in them and I'm tired of me. Bitch, what the fuck? Hey, hey! That's what I'm fucking saying. I'm like, "I'm not doing count." And then you just quit? Yeah, good luck to you. I love the key on the low. What was your job? I was just so amazing. Oh, what the fuck? Yeah. It's so weird that they would do that. They're weird. Like, that's run from a weird spot. Are you working at Claire again or no? Like, when did you even quit Claire? I didn't quit Claire's. I didn't just part time, but I went back. I could have some kind of income. But I'm looking for a job. Oh. Your mom told me to go work at Monday. At where? London? Oh, my God. You would love that. Yes. You should work there. I don't know. You should have slept with you. Yes. So I have to call them. Because they don't have me that online. Where are you taking Damien? Where? Where does he work? With my mom. He has a little job. That's what your mom works at. What? Piano or something? What is it? Tomatoes. Oh. So I knew it would be like a restaurant or something. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. When I go home, I think I'm going to get a job. Do it. I don't keep your mind straight to the honest. That's why I have mine. I really like it. I don't want to keep mine. It's one of the type of things that we pay for more for ourselves. But I keep my mind that it makes me feel like traveling at that big company. Yeah. I want to be either a social media manager or I'm going to be like a life coach. Or I'm going to keep going to school to be a nutritionist. And like, I want to help people eat healthy. Yeah. Do that. I'll be your first client. I'm not going to make you a meal plan for free. I will make you a meal plan for free. Fuck. You don't have to pay me shit because you did all for you. You're like family. I'm not going to make you a chicken for you. Are you for real? Oh my goodness. I remember. You're going to make me a chicken for you. Are you for real? Oh my goodness. I remember. I remember. Are you for real? I don't remember that day. I remember. We went to the hair store. The beauty store. Yeah. And I had to get you a fucking meat chicken. A meat chicken dish. That's pretty easy. But I was not eating them for you. I was not eating healthy. But I was eating healthy. You're eating healthy. Oh my god. Do you talk to her in shit? I don't always talk to her. I never do. I always think of one other thing that works there. You know Sam. He's like kind of strong looking. He had like, I don't know. There's a boy named Sam that works there. I love Sam. Like he's cool as fuck. Yeah. I know him. Oh yeah. I fuck with Sam. Yeah. He reaches out to my mom all the time. Like he's team Congee as fuck. Yeah. Well, he reminds me of the fuck you said. Because he's like, oh my god. Are you crazy? And I'm like, who the fuck are you? Yeah. Yeah. But apparently like Sam dated Audrey. And I was like, are you for real? And you're like, yes. Like you yelled at me one time. And I was like, I yelled at you. And he's like, yes. You dogged me in school one time. I'm like, I don't remember that. And I'm like, well, I'm sorry. I don't like Audrey anymore. So we could be friends. Right. No, but he used to be, well, he's like, I didn't recognize him. And he looked like that. But who do you feel is a more chubby? Yeah. I think he did. He's really like strong right now. And he eats like really fucking healthy. Because he almost died and shit like. From the 90s? I don't know. What the fuck he was eating. He had a good hospital. Maybe it was him and me. I keep smelling that. I'm like, every time I eat something, I just eat my cake. Why would you think of me? I don't want to be thought of that. When I get out of here, though, I always eat. Just when I come for my birthday when I was in jail. What? I have for McDonald's pancake. And then he doesn't feel? Oh, yeah. I got hell of shit for my birthday. I got big ass, talkies, big ass. I don't eat organic, like in jail. It's impossible. And I don't eat healthy at all. I eat noodles, chips, frito, I eat everything. I'm like so excited. I'm like, you're amazing. When I get out of here, I'm going back to eating healthy, though. But for now, do you know how much I weigh right now? No, but you look healthy. I feel like I got fat, but I weigh 120 pounds. Yes. That's not bad, though. That's a healthy weight. I'm a little bit obese, so. As long as you're still working out. And 10 years should be done. I do work out. And like my butt got fat is bug. I don't even know how to. I can't even tell you, like, everyone always tell me my butt fat is bug. And like my butt was cute and little before. But now it's fat and cute. So like. Yeah. You got a fat ass? It's a pretty fat ass. I don't have no fat ass. They still, they gone. I wish mine looked when yours. But like, they gone. But. They really don't. Are you worried when you look fat? Yes. Like, they always be like. Yeah. But when I go to. You know, I'm going to tell you that at a later time after I get sentenced. But, um. Yeah, don't say anything that's what you work. That's not it. Because. I already know what. I'm already knowing they about to like give me like death title to your subject. So. No, they're not. I wish the motherfucker was, because I'm a little brave, so as long as they won't. And I'm going to talk in court too, for sure. Yeah. Okay, I'm breaking up. Don't do this about you. I'm saying like. She's happy about you, but I need to put her back into the world. I'm just stressed out about like. Like, everyone's just like posting about me. Like, I just like hate that. They're only posting about me, because I can't say anything. That's the only reason. Right, so what's on phone? I don't like that. Like, it's just like. Everyone just thinks I'm like some murder, just because I'm charged with that. It doesn't mean that that's what happened. That just means I got fucked. Like. Right, but you. You know what I'm saying? When you reach it online. That's what you think when you don't know it. It's not good. It's not good. You got to ignore it. Like. It's all bullshit. It's not going to be like. You know, she's. And normally people that are really mad are the people that are posting. They let's talk to you, let's make you not see that's calling. Let's just stress to be free time. And she'll like. Sure, like. Did I tell you how there's a man texting me? That found me on the news. And he's texting me on. The jail shit. No, I did not know that. Okay, his name is Kevin Zimmerman. She's texting me. Like, I see you on the news. Like, I feel so bad for you. I think you need a friend. And I just thought I'd get it back and forth. He said, "I don't know. I don't know how old he is." And she said, "He's throwing me off." "Oh, you want me to call you back? Or do you want this to be our last call?" Can you call me later tonight or now? Call you tonight? Yeah. Yeah. I can try to get it. I'll probably come out again. Call me tonight so that I can not see you anymore. All right, babe. I love you so much, girl. I love you, baby. Keep your hand up. Okay. All right, I love you so much, babe. I'll talk to you all later. But, I guess. Love you. Bye. Love you. The caller has hung up. Hello. This is a collect call from. Hello. An incarcerated individual at Kayahoga County Correction Center. To pay for just this call using your credit or debit card, please press 1. To decline this call, press 4. If you would like to permanently go out to a number from receiving calls from. This call will cost $0.16 per minute plus any applicable federal state and local taxes plus a one-time transaction fee of $3. Plus, third party pass through fees of 50 cents. You will only be charged the permanent rate for the amount of time you were on the phone. Please hold while the person you are calling is venturing information to pay for this call. While the person you are calling is entering information to pay for this call, this call is not private, it will be recorded and may be monitored. If you believe this should be a private call, please hang up and follow facility instructions to register this number as a private number to consent to this recorded call, press 1 to disconnect, press 2, thank you for using Securus. Hello. Hello. Hey, girl. I miss you so much. Oh my goodness. You got moved. Yes. They moved me to the county. Oh my god. How are you? Shit. It is so horrible in here. They put me on, like, floor 7, which is like the psych ward 4 for protection. Yes, and it is not, and I have not really anything other than peanut butter in here that I get from court. So I have just been eating peanut butter like every single day because it has good ingredients I guess, and I don't know. It is so weird. I only have one pair under where like, I have to wash in myself in the sink. Oh my god. Yes. And in my room for like 14 hours, like a day, like I am in my room so much, like I only get to come out for like an hour and 30 minutes, like, to make my calls and message people. And then I am back in my room. Oh my god. And you were after a juvenile before, right? Yeah. It is so different here. Like, I don't like it. I wish I was back at the juvenile place. Like, I almost cried reading your message. Like, I needed to hear that, like, I love it. Like, I miss talking to you, like, our daytime calls are just like, I miss you. So much. Girl, honestly, so I think about you all the time I am like, I just wonder what you are doing in this hall. I was like, how is she speaking? Like, I don't even got a book. Like, I do, but like, I don't. You said what? Like, I don't even got a book, like, there are only like God books, and I don't want to read God books. Like, I want to read a book that is going to like, take my mind away from like being in jail, like. Oh my god. Yeah. Like a story or something. Yes. So, like, wait, like, I know you not want to talk about anything, but is anything progressing? Like, are you finding anything out? Have you, have you been watching like the news, and shit, I don't know, it's like, it's probably different news for you and I'm Callie, but like, they knew it. Look at me up. My whole trial. You're all the news? Girl, yes. This whole time I've been on the news. It's like, it's not really good, but you're trying to like make me seem like there's somebody that you're not. Yeah, there, it's just within trials, like, all week, this week, one day to Wednesday. I went Monday, no, Monday to Thursday, I was in trial, and then Monday is when they're going to, like, decide if I'm guilty or not guilty, which like, I just, yeah, I just can't see and myself getting charged with like murder, which like, I just think that's like, literally, like, what is your thing? It's literally right here. I see your face. Yeah, I got mad. I got mad. Oh, my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. No, you're good. You're not. I'm, I'm going to watch this later. Did you get hurt? Oh, my arm. It's from the car accident. Okay, okay, okay. No, no one ever, like, I did anything to me well as in jail. Like, I haven't really been in the fight yet since I've been in jail. That's what I was like worried about. Oh, no. I've been real cool with everybody, and the juvenile facility, I was really cool with everybody. Like, I was the oldest there, so everyone, like, fucked with me. But now I'm the youngest. Yeah, not the youngest. Okay, I'm going to have to watch all of this, but it was only a few videos, but oh my gosh, no Kenzie. I've been just like, wondering about you, like, seriously, just like, thinking like, you know, like, what is she doing? Most of the time, I'd be sleep, or I'd be like, reading a Bible book, like to learn about God, because like, that's all I really have to do, so I'm like, well, like, not just like, just learn, because like, I don't know. Yeah. Or like, I'm on the phone with my mom, because like, it's hard to call my friends sometimes, because I get really sad. I just like, miss them so much. Oh, yeah. Your mom loves you so much, but Kenzie, like, she literally loves you with like every phone. I feel so bad for her, like, I feel like I just like fucked up her whole life with this shit, like, and I'm even like, do what I'm purpose, which is like, I don't know. It's so sad. Your mom really, really loves you. Oh my gosh, I wish I could just like, really talk to you right now, but I'm like scared to ask questions. Ask my mom. She will tell you everything. She knows the answer to everything. So Monday, you're going to be like, signing out? Yeah. I'm going to be here now, but I'm going to be on the news again. So you will see, too. Oh, sure. Monday at 1 o'clock, I'll be, probably, on the news again. Why are they so obsessed with you? Like, you've gotten a fucking car accident. Like, I've gotten them three of those. Like, it's probably just because like, my boyfriend's last name is like, Russo, and like his family is just like trying to like, do some weird shit. I don't know. Yeah, they don't fuck with me no more, even though after the car accident, I was like hanging out with his family and still still, but then they just like, turned on me all of a sudden. So, it's bad, too. Mm-hmm. She'd be at court now, and I'm like, damn, like, didn't we literally go to dinner together? Didn't I come to like, Dom's birthday party after the crash? And I was with all you guys, and then you all just want to like, turn on me all of a sudden. And that's just like crazy to me, but they, they know I didn't do it on purpose. I just think that they're hurt. And they don't know how to grieve properly, which I understand, like, not everyone understands, but that's what I think. Really just the fact that they had so many strings that they could fold to even get you arrested in the first place. Yes, like, it is so, it's so like, it's just like, I would understand if they gave me like a normal charge, but like, the charges that they gave me are like, literally insane. Like, it's not. They're trying to make a scene something that it's not like, it's not like, I didn't do this on purpose. Like, I got in the car accident. I'm a third victim, like, and they just think that like, it was also like, joke, and like, that I was like, oh, yeah, I just wanted to do this on purpose to the love of my life and a friend. Like, that's the, that's the most crazy thing I've ever heard in my life. Like, he was the love of your life. Like, you, every time I talked to you, I was with him, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would never hurt him, like, ever. And yeah, we argued, but like, what about the video, like, man, they just tried to make a scene, like, I was like, this like abusive girlfriend to him, but they didn't show anything he did to me. Which is just so weird. There's always two sides. And I mean, though you guys went to stuff, like, every couple goes to stuff, like, you know what I mean? Like, every couple of fights, every couple has a toxic phase, so the fact that, and your mom, she called me one day a while ago, and she called me to tell me your charges. And, like, Mackenzie, I was sitting on the toilet, and like, I just like screamed and started crying when she told me the charges, because I was like, that's insane. Like, that's an insane charge for what happened. I've never heard of that before. Like, I've never heard of that. It's, there's evil working against me, like, and then I'm like, why would I be saved to live like life if like, they were just going to arrest me, and like, I don't understand. They brought me back to life just to put me in jail, like, that just doesn't make any sense to me. So then, like, I try to think that, like, damn, maybe there's, like, something good for me playing. Maybe, like, this is all part of my story, and then I'm going to write my book when I get out of here and shit. But then, like, what if I'm just like, my life is just meant to be fucked, and I'm meant to fucking get in jail my whole life and shit, like, for something I didn't even do on purpose, like, for a fucking crash, a car accident. Like, man, the prosecutors in court were like, oh, yeah, Kenzie did this, but what, um, did she just kill Davie on to a baggage? I'm like, did that word just come out of your mouth? Baggage? That is bad for me, like, was saved again? They said, like, I killed Don because I was like, like, we're in abusive relationships, but then I just decided to like, kill Davie on to a baggage. That's what the prosecutor said. In court, in front of the judge, and I'm like, that is, because they have no, nothing of why I would do it to Davie on. They have videos of me and Don arguing, because Don wanted to record me when I was really upset sometimes. And then I would record him when he was upset, but they only played, like, me, me, tweaking on him. So, they had nothing for Davie, so then they just was like, hey, Davie, I was just baggage. And I'm like, oh, my goodness. That makes me sound like your serial killer. Yes. And like, why the fuck would I do that? And then people on social media just are like, talking so much shit about me on, like, the Strong Feel Police page, and like, all over, like, the news thing, people are just like saying crazy shit about me, and I'm like, none of you guys even know me, like, I don't know. And I had to like, change my Instagram name and shit, like, I don't like, because people like, when you look up my name on Google, my Instagram comes up. Yeah. I see some things on TikTok too. on tiktok. Yeah, I just like one but I just ignored it. I think I know what you're talking about. She bald. I don't remember if you were a while ago. I don't know. I see a few things every month. So wait, how many days have you done trial like three? I've been in trial for four days, but I've been in jail nine months, not in the county though. And Monday, so it's about to be one week here. Okay, which is just like once again, crazy as fuck like a week in the space. Like what the fuck and my commissary's not coming. Oh no, tell me scary is fuck and it's the fact that they got me on this floor too. Like there's this one girl who just like is like talks to herself like all day long. She's in the room like right by me. She's like, ma'am, ma'am, like all day long. I'm like girl, like shut the fuck up. Like she's pissing me off so bad. Like I don't like her. Like she's so irritating, like. But why don't I even call that floor? Like I don't get it. They need it. Like if they want to put people, like there's another girl up on my floor. She's in protective custody too. But they like, why is there not protective custody floor? Like I don't understand why they have to put us on like this floor. No, it's not. It's just like, yes, yes, in a way, yes. Like I just don't, that's just like horrible. And like I just don't like everyone I met on this floor has been like cool to me though. Like I haven't, I don't have issue with anybody on this floor. Like everybody cool. Except like the one girl that's like in her room by herself. She's in the room by me. She's so irritating and I hate her, but. Man, I'm glad that like the girls get along with the stuff. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not gonna cause no problems in here. I don't want no like beef with nobody in jail. Like everyone's been so nice to me so far. No, you're tiny too. You're tiny. You need to stay away from those girls. Yes. And everyone's like, I'm like I said, I'm the youngest here. Like except this one girl that I'm friends with. She's like a couple years older than me. She's real cool. I like her. Yeah, other than that. It's just, this is just crazy. And then I can't believe this. So okay, but like what's this say on Monday? They say that you're innocent. Do you get to go home? No, I'm probably going to get charged with like vehicular homicide or like reckless homicide. Okay, vehicular. But then it would maybe go back to you. No, it will probably be homicide because like, oh, yeah. They just, they are trying to like fuck me up like bad. Like they are trying to like. I don't know. It says, it says, the tensie. How do you say your last name? Sharilla. Sharilla accused of driving car into building up a hundred miles an hour to kill human on purpose. What in the fuck is that shit? That is some really disgusting wording. Yes, like, and then two men like her boy, like they just aren't making it seem weird as well. Crazy. Okay, well, I'm going to have a few more finish on here, but do you want to call me tomorrow? I'm going to call you tomorrow because my mom has been working 10 hour shifts and I can't call her. But I'm going to call you tomorrow and talk to you tomorrow. I wrote your number down. So I'm going to call you more. And you can set a video calls with me too if you want, but it costs money. So you don't have to, well, this costs money too, but video calls are like kind of expensive. But like, either way, I'm going to talk to you tomorrow. I'm going to call you. But if you want, you can set a video call. I'll put more money on this thing and just call you tomorrow, okay? All right, I love you so much. Girl, I'll see you. I love you too. You can say you just call it in this case. I'm going to try. I'll do it for you. I love you so much. I'll talk to you tomorrow. Bye, girl. Bye. The caller has, hello. This is a collect call from. To pay for just this call using your credit or debit card, please press one to decline this call. This call will cost 16 cents per minute plus any applicable federal state and local taxes plus a one time transaction fee of three dollars plus third party pass through fees of 50 cents. If you do not want to connect this call, but would like to fund an account to pay for future calls, please hang up and dial 808446591. It will be recorded and maybe monitored. To consent to this recorded call, thank you for using Securus. Hello. Hey! Hey, Mom. Are you? You saw it later, did you? Yeah, at the window. Yes! Yeah, I did, so did you see me? No. I don't think so. What? You better maybe come at nighttime. Oh. So you can see like the light on in my room. We saw the light, can you put a piece of paper in the window or something? Or like. Yeah, I'll try to put some shit in the window. Yeah, when you guys were standing at the corner, I can see you. You'll kept walking across the street and then I couldn't see you. Oh, I know. I saw where your car was parked. Oh, so you can see that part. Yeah. We were sure if you can see us in the parking lot for the corner. I could see you at the corner and I couldn't see when you walked across the street, though. Okay, so that's the limit. We weren't sure. Dang, and I spent a lot of time in the parking lot trying to find your room. We've been in for a long time. I see you at the corner, though. But you saw us waving. Mm-hmm. Thank you. You guys want to talk to Kenzie? Okay. Who is that? Hi. Oh, hey, Kenzie. I love you so much. I love you so much. I would like to do more when I see you guys in the courtroom. They told me I can't smile. I let you guys enough. And so I try to write you guys like little notes on my paper and shit. No, I love it. You look so good. I hope you know that. Man, do you think it went good today or no? Your mom said we can't talk about it over the phone. Do I think that went good today? Okay. I mean, I don't really know what's going on. I was like really confused. It was really different today. I was really nervous today. Today I was like, I literally cried all day today. I'm so stressed out. No, yeah, I bet. But you're doing amazing. Shit, I'm trying. Real hard. No. It's gonna pay off. I'll tell you that. I love you. I wanted to do 15 this life and that fucking prison. That would just be horrible. Yeah. It's fucked up, man. I fucked this shit up, Kenzie. Why did you bring your fingers? I don't know why. Because I was just fucking around. I fell when I was running up the stairs. I was maybe under the influence a little bit, but it's okay. Man. Yeah. It's my pinky and it's literally like the size of my thumb almost. It's wool? Yeah. Oh my goodness. It's bad. It's bad. Are y'all at my house? No, we are at TikTok Tavern. Where? TikTok Tavern. What the fuck is that? Uh-huh. What is it? Like food or something? Oh. No, yeah. It's where we went last time. Oh, it's really good. It's food. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's where we went last time. I was trying not to laugh when they play, it was in the hospital, I remember, I feel like nothing that I said in the hospital should be used because what I don't remember, literally any of it, like, all I hear was, this is what I was trying not to laugh so hard, I was like, I still don't know what they said, they still don't know. What do you mean? I don't even remember what the fuck I said to you, like, I don't remember, like, I could not tell you what I said to you, why wouldn't they ask us? Do you ask us? Yeah, I don't know, and he, and Detective was pissing me off today, he kept making like, weird ass face of that gym and shout, like, you're a cop, like, why the fuck are you doing? Well, yeah, he's supposed to be unbiased. Maybe he, I'm, maybe she'll see that he does not look like he's unbiased. Okay, we can't talk about anything else though, you might talk to me. You could put me on speaker, but I don't know how long I have out here. What? I don't know how long I have out here. Oh, okay. All right, I'm, I think I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but what happened last night or this morning? You couldn't call me? Uh, this morning, I, what, at 7, 30 a.m., I went down to court. Oh, okay. So I was in court all day today and last night, I don't know what even, I think I called you that one time last night and then that's all I could have done. Oh, okay, I wasn't sure about the eight o'clock or not. I didn't know if something happened. Damn, this is a tenth already. Yeah. So, I did get the phone number if somebody I'll call, so I'm going to call them when we're done here to ask about you getting you off that floor. Yes, like, like, like, she sees me dot, she's like, we zord, he zord, he zord, he zord. I know. And I just see that he's on these, he zord, be the key to anything, he zord, he zord, he zord, he zord. And I can't log in to my account and get any commentary, I don't know why, and he's like, not letting me log in. Is somebody helping you? Yeah, but like, it's just not, like, I'm just, like, it's irritating, I don't know, like, how the fuck to work it. Well, somebody should be able to, I mean, help you. Who's helping you? It's a normal. Oh, and then they were trying to see that we were talking nonsense on the phone last night. I'm like, I didn't talk to her last night. Who said that? Remember in the thing, in trials, weren't they saying, like, we were just talking a whole bunch of nonsense last night? I didn't talk to you last night. Oh, I didn't even hear them say that. Yeah. Who said that? Um, so, one. I don't know. What? Um, what's the call with? What's that for? I got to throw you. Okay. Oh, my God. Wait, you met Ms. Lisa? I did. Mom, I love her, like, to death. That is literally, like, my mom, like, my other mom too. Oh. What did they say? I think Ms. Peggy, Ms. Lisa, who did that man in the back? I have no idea. She didn't say anything to anybody. Nope. Who was that person sitting in the back room? What? Oh, he was from the other side. What the fuck? Why was he on our side? Oh, he was with a detective. Maybe he, I guess so, yeah. I don't know. I was trying to hear what you all was talking about. Well, nobody was talking, though. Nobody was talking. So, where was Dad? Um, Dad had to stay home today. Why? Because he can't, he can't handle the stress. Or he just needs to stay home. Are you okay? He's okay. He's one hundred percent okay. I don't want to cause problems for you because of his lack of maybe controlling. Saying something he shouldn't say. Man, who was all there? Who was all here today? Um, let's see. Besides that, you know, he does obviously get in love with you. He just wants to make sure you're in the best position. I know. It was really hard to sit in the lobby with Tyler yesterday. It was really hard. Who? Tyler. Who the fuck is Tyler? Tyler Proctor? He was very yesterday. Wasn't he the one who testified about the avian 360? No, that was Tyler Kroy. Tyler Kroy. Okay. So, we didn't know if that was Proctor or Kroy. No. The one who. The girl. I'm confused because some of the stuff she said, I don't ever remember saying that to her. So, like, I'm weirded the fuck out by her. Well, don't forget. Um, you know, it's been so long. It might be, they might be remembering things differently. But how are they able to testify and say I said that when I don't ever remember saying that to her. Like, that's just, it was weird to me. That's how she remembered it. So, she's not lying. That's how she remembers it. I have no idea, Kathy. It doesn't matter. And then she says that we're friends. And I was like, so we're friends. But then you said that. Weird shit. Like, that's just weird to me out. Yeah. I don't look pumpkin. And Paul, were you talking to Paul or no? You can't talk to him. I don't know what Paul's information. No, I was going to call him and just tell him I'm so sorry. I feel so bad for him. Oh, my God. I feel so bad for him, too. Like, he made me so sad. Yeah. And I couldn't find his phone number in your phone. I don't know how to contact him. Ask Rosie. I thought Rosie was going to testify. Why didn't Rosie testify? Because she would have said the same thing. Paul, you guys were all together. It would have been the same thing. Yeah, I want to, I need to have a private talk with you, too. Like, I did some weird job by some things. And I just, like, don't know how to feel about it. Yeah. And I don't even think you know what I'm talking about. I don't even know how to, if we can do private conversation. It just is weird to me, like, I don't know. I'll ask when I call the whoever that is today. Yeah, you need to call them. Like, you need that because I need access to my, you know, I can have, like, my movies on my tablet. Oh, really? Yeah, I can have music on there. I can play games. Okay. And then I just, like, don't have access to it because I'm on the fucking site word for. I don't have access to this. This is me also. I'll come along. Like, why? And, like, I need to go. These are views of these as fleas or, where is I need that? Or, where is I need that? These are views. No. These aren't even, even, these are fleas or. Oh. These aren't, these aren't, these aren't, these aren't. And, what the lady used to walk me a court earlier, so that it was, like, for protection, because I'm on the news. But, like, I don't need to be protected for what I'm in here for. Because, like, you're allowed to watch the news in here. But, like, I don't care. Like, I've been called names ever since I've been in jail. Like, I'm not worried about that. I just want to be with, like, where is I needed to lose or pee to beetle? Need that pee? Like, we need our pee to beetle. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll call and find out. We're not going on. Yeah. How's the phone call? I'll see what I can do anyway. There might not be much I can do here. You have to, like, voice your concerning complaint. And be, like, well, why is my child on the site work for, like, what's his fault? Somebody said it might be because you asked for little health, like, therapy. Boy, no. Every -- that's -- Could that's where the therapist is here? No, it's not. Okay. I'll call and find out. Yes. Like, he's ever using me. See some weird things. He's like, "Scrazing me." He's like, "Scrazing me." He's like, "Scrazing me." I got you. Okay. I don't want to be here. And then tomorrow I want to be in your horrible day. I know, sweet, high. All right. I'm going to try to call you again, Mom. Okay, right now. But I'm going to wait for it to hang up, because I don't know if she's going to let me call you again. Okay. Because only the seven day people are allowed out right now. The seven day people? Yeah, the ones who have to be in their room seven days. Okay. Okay. I love you, Ponkin. I love you so much. So tell Kendra and Maddie, I said I love them too. I just thought she loved you. And tell my friend, and Andy's definitely, and Andy can't hear her here too. Oh, tell them all I said. I love them so much. Hold on. She said they love you so much. Yeah. I love you guys so much. But yeah, I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to call again, because I want to talk to you guys again. But if not, it's probably be the last call for tonight. But I know if not, it will be the last call for tonight. Okay. All right. So I'm going to talk to you guys again. Thank you for using. All right. I love you. Goodbye. Hello. This is a prepaid collect call from. If you believe this should be a private call, please hang up and follow the facility instructions to register this number. as a private number to accept charges and consent to this rec thank you for using Securus. - Hello? - What? - I'm back at @Rosie to this call and you're about to hear this shit that's going on right now. - What's the book? - Hold on. Hello? - Hey. Hello? - Hey Rosie. - Ah hey! - I'm you. - Hmm. - Basically I was just telling Rosie about how you were like leave Tyler blah blah blah blah blah blah. - Yeah. Okay. - I don't like him. - Neither do I. - Neither do I. - Me and Rosie were talking and I was like, I'm going to tell him I want to get a one-bedroom by myself. - Why? - So I'm not living with him, so I can leave him. - Why would you tell him that? Why would you just sneak away? (laughing) - I'm dead. - You know how he is, you should have told him that. - Yeah. Well, now he's breaking out of me. - I'm just gonna break up, so. - Just tell him you're done with him and then come to my house. - So, the last time I said to him was you made me feel like I was forced to have sex with you. I'm not leaving you, but I could very well just for that. I'm just trying to make his relationship work with what you didn't overcome it. I think it would work better if we had our own state. - No, you need to break up with him. - He said, I mean, we don't even have a sex life. I don't know what else to do anymore. I try to get my all, all my all. So whatever you want, I'm not gonna be able to afford a one bedroom and a car being in all by myself. So I'm gonna try to talk to my dad or my grandma about moving in with one of that. - For us. - Do you like sex? - Yes, that's not. - Okay, so you okay, good. - It's not your problem. - And then move the fuck out. - He's gross. - He's so annoying, acting like he wouldn't have moved out anyway and have to pay for an apartment and his car payment anyway. - Right, make your broken fuck get a job. I don't like him. - I think you actually break up. - Yes, and I'm irritated right now. So I'm just gonna dog Tyler out. So it makes me not irritated. But like, yeah, you know, I'm so really, you need to leave him like, he looks musty. Like, I just don't like, like, you could do way better. Like, I don't know, and yeah, like, I don't even know, like, no faith. You always be, yes, like you can't be with him, you ugly. - So ugly. - You need to find someone better, and they actually can support you. Like, you shouldn't be like paying for shit for no man. - Yes. - Or just a birthday or an anniversary or two. - Yeah. - Yes, like, Dom and me, like, y'all know, like, I did not, like, I don't like to have sex. Oh, like, I don't like to be fucking every single day. I don't like that. And Dom wasn't like, he wasn't like, please, just do this, like, Dom would never do that to me ever. He was like, he understood that, like, that's just how I am, and he just, like, I don't know, like, yeah, you need to find a respect and respect. - I'm not trying to make you feel any type of way, but before we even got together, I told you I didn't like having sex. I shouldn't, fuck, shouldn't. - I shouldn't be feeling like I'm an object, and I'm forced. - Do you wanna give me his numbers? I can drug him myself or what? - I'm gonna give him a call. - Listen, Ro, last night, he was like, how can the eyes of people are head up? I'm not like, just ignored him. I'm like, I can't, just give him a dog, the fuck out of you. - Man, I don't really give a fuck. He can call me a killer and a murderer, all he wants. Like, that's it. Okay, so I don't give a fuck, like, I know what I'm not in that. Oh, I didn't tell you, Ro, you guess what I got? - What? - Three dead letters, some three dead inmates. - Oh my God, really? - I don't think you know that. - Yeah, boy. - I sent you of that guy. - No. - Yeah, Tim, he sent me a Instagram and he said, "That one man, face the end, do him a function." I don't know. He's yelling, he's like, "That guy, I don't know what he said." - He just sent me this account. I was about to ask for that. (laughing) - Here, he wrote me a letter. You're gonna read it to you with real funny. - Please, bro, read it. I'm done. Let me look it as a count again. - Kenji, do you know what he looks like? - I just, all I know is he's old, this book, but he's trying to get on his own. - Actually, he doesn't look that bad. He's just old as hell, this is 20 years old. - Okay, are you ready? - Yeah. - He says, "What's that big girl?" - Oh. - Okay. Hope all is well on your end. My end word gave me your info and told me to tap in. He said, "You was in a heavy situation, "but didn't get into details, though." - My name is Jason, but everyone called me Santana. I'm five and 1185 light skinned. I used to have waves, but I got dreads now. I got a few casts, but I got headless face. I'm gonna fill in when I get out. I've been down eight, seven, and I got eight left. I can file my JUB next year. So if you want somebody to talk to, I'm here for you, but if not, feel free to test my info on. I like to read travel and I'm in the sports. To kill time, I'm working on these books and movies, and I'm in a graphic design class. I don't want to give up too much yet. Hopefully we'll be able to get to know each other and I'll be able to brighten your day. So I'm gonna tell next time, and then he gave me his Instagram. - I'm going to be crying. - Yes, that was amazing. - I bowed him back, you'll hear what I wrote, him. - Okay, I bowed for all three. - You said, "Then I think I have some things to think about for myself." - Oh, please, break up with him before he breaks up with you, 'cause the pilot breaks up with you, yes. - It's not good, thank you. - I said, "Do you want to break up?" - I think he does, baby. You were like, "We should just go, "we should just each get our own apartment." He was like, "We need a wire." - I won't be able to leave it on it. 'Cause before I got out, I was really asking Rosie, if I said I'm gonna ask, well, I was trying to be nice, because the last time me and Tyler broke off, he literally sat there and did quoke. And so I was thinking, "How many of you "is gonna kill themselves?" Because of it. - Okay, and that's not your fault. - So I was trying to be like, "Not to feel like listen, "I just think it'd be better if we got our own place." Like faces, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. - What do you mean? - I'm just gonna say, he's gonna kill himself. I'll be like, "I'm telling your brothers." - You know what I mean? But that's all you gotta do. It's just be like, that's not my fault. - Just tell your mom, that's not what you've got to do. - Yeah, I'll tell your mom. I'm gonna screenshot this incentive to your mom. - That's what I always say. I'm always like, "Do I need to tell your mom "that you're literally going mentally crazy?" - He says, "No, I don't, but now I really don't know." - Okay, break up with him. I know you don't want to, but just break up with him. For real, and focus on yourself, be like, okay, we're gonna be like, I think we need to break up and then be like, we can maybe like touch back base, like when you get your shit together, where I mean, like you could just say something like that. - I just wanna be like, how do you not know? - Say, if you want my advice or not, that's what I think you should do. I don't like him. - I don't like how he does that. That's weird as far as like, you better not ever try to do no weird shit to you again. And I'm gonna tell you all what's just happened to me that got me irritated as fuck. So on this fucking Secures JP6 tablet, shitty ass tablet, I, there's this music subscription. That's $20 a month. And I was like, okay, I'm just gonna get it because like, I don't wanna pay $2 for a song like every day and pay for songs over and over again. Tell me why. So I buy the subscription. I'm going to start downloading all this music, bruh, they only got like upcoming artists. Like, it's like if me and you recorded a song and put it on record, yeah, it's like people like that. And I'm standing like, I know I didn't just pay $20 for 200,000 songs of people that recorded in their basement. I'm irritated as fuck and I can't refund it. So now I'm just stuck with this fucking shit. Like, I'm so irritated. Like, I called my mom, I'm like, I forgot to fuck out. Like, I just bought this subscription. A fucking like, not even underground. Like, fucking like, baby on's and down's and she of the world, like, fucking Tyler Proctor, fucking like people that just like. - I wish it was literally gay. - I wish, I wish it sounded like Davian and Dom in the studio. But no, it's literally like, who is it? It's giving me stuff. It's giving. - It's giving kids worries. - It's giving Joey. - It's giving Joey, it's giving who else? Fucking all them. That's what it's giving. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? And why? - Because we're talking person. - No, say no, that's not gonna happen. Because I know what it is about to do. But no, it is gonna happen. - He's gonna tell him that's the tip. - That's the fuck out of my house. - No, he wants to just use the tip tape. That's all he wants, just the tip. Like, don't let him see you in person. For real. He's gonna try to do some weird shit. - Well, he's just a human, I'm going to rob you today. - Oh, are y'all coming over? Y'all going to my house tonight at night? - Yes. - Yeah, and we're going to your mom. Yes, my mom told me, like, I really need y'all to unfollow like all these weird assholes. Like, anyone that y'all get weird vibes from. - Yeah. - Or that does so excited to follow me back. - Yeah. - They're gonna be like, wait, how does Ken, how does Kenji unfollow me? Like did yes, I don't follow you anymore. And what about-- - Kenji had a jail, she unfollow me. - Yes, 'cause I know they're sticking up on Kenji. Look, for real, I'm sad. I imagine if your account was just like commenting back if people like, oh really? - Honestly, I almost want y'all to have like, you need to come over every once in a while, and then go through my phone. But you need to like unfollow, like, even people that are like friends with ops and aren't saying anything like that. - Yeah, yeah, I understand. 'Cause we have a long way to go. - 'Cause we have a long way to go. - All right, y'all have a good time. - That's average, I'm gonna tell some personal stuff. Now let me. - Hey, why do you think you can tell us you like that? Look in like that, that's true. - Just what I don't understand. - I was literally just talking to Rosie that. I was like, "Where will I go?" - I was like, "Where will I go?" - That's what I'm saying. - No, not enough. - Not enough. - I'm on his ass. - Is he really like, "Where will I go?" - Is he really like, "Love do?" - Like that. - He would pay for your apartment by yourself. - Guys, I'm going to go join the army. - That was me. - What? - He just said that? - So I am. - I'm saying that. - What do you want me to say, "Dom"? - 'Cause apparently Dom was going there. (laughing) - He was kind of making a piece of shit. - Like, why would he just lie about that? Like, "I'm just not over that. There's like this with the army. Dom would never shave his head. And you know that. You don't want to look like it. - He just said 14-1/2 seconds. - What? - Sure. (laughing) - You said that's it? - Yeah, just now. - Wait, what did you say, "You're a piece of shit." You tried to force me to have sex. You said that's him. - Yeah, he called me like, "I'm a piece of shit." And you forced me to have sex. - Cheers. - Yeah, see? I don't know why he thought he could just do that. It was really fucking weird. - Some of your jail boys numbers. - What do you say? - I said, "I'm going to need some of your jail boy numbers." (laughing) - Oh my god, this one man. He's like 45 and he really wants me to call him at 330 today. And I think I'm going to call him. And he's like a sugar daddy. He scares me a little bit though. Like, "Are you doing this?" - Yeah, he's like, he's like, "How are you beautiful?" I'm like, "Okay, I just don't answer him. He scares me." - It's so weird. They're so weird. - Oh, he did not go there. He said, "You act like everything's the. " - Whoa! - I don't know what you do with perfect self. I don't work on myself half the time. I say, "I can't even come to you about the crimes I'm dealing with." - He's like the manipulative of you. He's trying to feel it. - He's like, "I can't even come to you about the crimes I'm dealing with." - No, you need to stop texting him. He's wasting your energy on him. This is what he wants. - For real. - I'm going to call you back. - Okay, ask me to at least. - I will. - I'm going to just wait until it hangs up. Y'all can stay on the phone. And I'm going to let it hang up. I don't know. Tyler is in need to lose weight, but we'll just talk about that later. - Yeah, in my opinion. - Oh, Tyler. - I'm just telling you how I feel. What would you say that, Rosie? - Like, Tyler, though. That name is she. I don't know. - Yeah. - Tyler. Like, no. Goodbye. - Flopped. I don't know. - All right. - Next caller. - Yes. Next caller. Fuck. I'm knowing your foot. - You could just tell if you're not separated. - Yeah. - That age is about to blow me. That's the foot. She needs to block him. - Yeah. - And stop waking her energy on his bitch. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well. - Thank you for using my secure. - I'll call you back. - Goodbye. - So I'm curious based on everything that you just heard. If you're with me, where it sounds like, okay. They're joking. They're not taking it seriously. They're, you know, mean girl mentality. Collectively. And I get it. They're young. And so maybe you chalk some of that up to immaturity. But also, it just feels very surfacy and gross to me. I don't know. Now, another thing I'm working on, which I mentioned, will release Friday. There are so many calls between Mackenzie and her mother. Now, we, I don't think it's any secret. I think we all can agree that Mackenzie's parents, Natalie and Steve, have enabled her from day one and that they weren't even actual parents. They were more concerned with being her friend. So I went through the hours and hours and hours and hours of phone calls with her mom. And I pulled out 15 that I think really are the wildest. The most, you know, the audacity, the evilness, the enabling, all of those things. And just kind of like, honestly, the bizarre ones too. So that is going to be releasing Friday. So make sure you're, and again, uncut, raw, uncensored. So make sure that you are subscribed if you're not already. So that you do not miss that episode. And with that, and maybe I'll talk about it more. I don't know if I, maybe I'll talk about it in the Friday episode. I'm going to share more about the text messages that everybody's talking about. Because there's been a lot of stuff going on. I'm going to make a note right now for myself for when I record this next video. There's been a lot of things going viral about text messages between Mackenzie and her dad before the crash, where she would ask him in the middle of the night to bring her warm milk. People suggesting that warm milk is code for something far more disgusting and deferious if you catch where I'm going with that. Also about how like, then whenever she posted her Starbucks order, it would say dairy-free. So why would she be asking for a warm milk? And things about him saying, you know, but I love your mom. Weird stuff. Now, I have my personal opinions on that. I've been doing some digging, and I'm going to share that in the next episode too, just because I think it's too much for this one. So, and that way too, it's like the mom and the dad. All of that stuff kind of live together on one episode. So, come back Friday for that. And let me know what you think. But hopefully we're almost done with this Mackenzie saga, because I mean, it's just more keeps coming out, more points of view. And so, I think this next video on Friday will probably be the last of it, but I don't want to make any promises. So anyway, let me know what you guys think. Do you think that Mackenzie is remorseful? Let me know either in the Q&A section. Maybe we'll put a poll up, or in the comment section. What do you think? Alright, guys, thank you so much for tuning in to another episode. And until the next one, be nice. Don't kill people, and just be a decent human. [MUSIC PLAYING] [GUNSHOTS]