"Macaulay Culkin"

(upbeat music) - Are you gonna watch in the holiday movies, The cartoons, the drama, the drama? - I do, because it's nostalgic. It makes me feel like where I put my onesion, you know, with the feet, with the whole, the pajamas. - Yeah, do you have a little, do you have the little, the button, sort of window that drops in the back for poops? (laughing) - Don't beat around the bush. What are you trying to say? - Do you have a back flap? - Or do you think-- - Yeah, but that's not my jeans. - You're talking about, I'm talking about my pajamas. - Yeah, have you watched any of the holiday videos or movies? - Not yet, but I'm going to. It's gonna be so exciting. Do you wanna come over and watch 'em? - Yeah, you came over last time, I guess we gotta come over to your places. - Yeah, tip for tent. - Tip for tent. - Yeah. - Splittedy splat. - Yeah. - Welcome to a new episode. - Sort of. - Partly. - Yeah. (laughing) - Smart. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Oh my God, I'm so sorry. - Jesus Christ, Sean. - Fucking hell, Sean. - This is fucking bullshit. - It wasn't done that, it wasn't on my calendar. - Whoa, that's awful. - Yeah, don't say it like it's our fault. Who's in control of your calendar? Is it you're waiting Nick, the prick? - Yeah. - Did you get a deal on this? - By the way, Sean, he says fucking Nick, he didn't even know who Nick was. - I mean, Nick for years, he's just in. - Dude, we literally said, did we call Nick and he goes, what's, what's a Nick? - What's a Nick? - No, he said, what's a Nick? - Yeah, what's a Nick? - He's clearly a worse discount assistant? - We were about to call cedars 'cause we thought, have you checked the paddle, waiting room? - That's the worst feeling in the world. This guy's like, I'm like, what? What are you talking about? - Like, well, let's take a couple, oh, sorry, will you want to finish you on that? - Yeah. - Okay. - Fucking will learn that. - Or else, guy. - Wait, how are you guys? - No, no, no, no. - I've already done that. - You already did that. - Let's take a guess. What we interrupted and chose like. - Yeah, wait, what's going on? What were you doing? - Spaghetti. - No. - Sorry, well, no, it's first thing in the morning, so that's a, seem like the most like. - He was turning the pop tart over in the oven. - I'm gonna tell you right now, the honest guy, the honest guy, truth, cast out sleeping. - Okay. - Because you got up too early. - Yeah. - Turning better, surprise guest. - Sure, surprise guest. - Are you surprised, yes. - Real Libby. - By the way, since you've been away, Sean, our surprise guest has been very active in the chat, which has been fun. - All right, good. - I'm a big Olivia Munn fan and a fun lady. - Yeah. - Okay. - Wait, okay, do you want to guess? - No, but let's get back to Shawnee. So what happened? - Yeah, no. - I got up in three. - What was your sleep? - Yeah, you got up in three. And then I wrote, and then I had this script that I had to write notes on. So I spent like three or four hours rereading it, rereading it, rereading it, writing notes on and stuff like that. And then I was like, oh God, I gotta go back to sleep. And then I, I, it's guy was like, hey, you have a smile. So I'm like, what? And they jumped out of bed. You should smell my breath. - Oh, I'm good. (laughing) Hey, so what's gonna, now what's the process when we're done here? Nick gets what a phone call or you want an in person? - Yeah, no, I'm, no, I'm definitely gonna ask what happened. No, I, yeah, that's it, that's it. And my niece is here with her friends. So there's five, there's five girls staying in the house. Oh my God, it's there, you know, so we're up late. - Why don't let us bring them in and have them smell your breath. Can we do that? - So wait, this is the daughter of who? - This is my brother, Dennis's daughter Elise. And I remember her name 'cause it rhymes with niece. - Oh, is that the big deal? - You remember the name of your niece? - Yeah. - And Jason, this is not a road you wanna go down. - Right, sorry. - Hey, so how old is Elise? - She's just turned 24. - She's turned 24. - She's sharpness out of your voice. - Yeah, I know, he's so mad at me. - 24 and she's having a five person sleepover at Uncle Sean's house? - Yeah, yeah, it's fine, yeah. - Yeah, let's go. - Did they get, did they climb into a bottle of something last night? - Yes, they did, yeah. - These girls, these girls. - They're really funny though, but you know, they're like in the middle of dinner last night. Like, they'll say the most random things. - Are they crazy? - They're crazy. I mean, it's how you sound. Right in the middle of, we're talking about politics. We're drinking or something. And her friend Taylor goes, - Oh, Taylor, that's Taylor, is that it? - Don't get me started with Taylor and her. - Taylor and her. - We started dinner? - Taylor and her. - Taylor and her with politics. - She must have, she goes, in the middle of the thing, she goes, oh my God, you guys, do you hear Jesse Eisenberg's gonna give away one of his kidneys to his stranger? - Oh. - I mean, that's unbelievable. And then, by the way, that's the best part that's the whole story. - And Elise comes over the top with, and she goes, oh my God, you guys, he's so nice. By the way, I didn't know Jesse Eisenberg was giving away a kidney to his stranger. - Hang on a second. Let's get back to Taylor's comment. I mean, and that's, that's it. I mean, was she working that cute thing that, what was that? - Hey, so wait, so Jesse, I don't believe that. One second, that Jesse Eisenberg is giving away a kidney to a stranger. - Yeah, that's not just some sort of, it's in the news, really? - Yeah, it was in the news. And they have, and they go, I didn't know, you guys, oh my God, Ed Sharon didn't use a phone. And then Elise goes, oh, he's so mysterious. - And then I'm like, I'm like, they all really talk like that. And like, what? This is really happening. - Where are they from? Chicago, Glen Owen. - Glen Owen? - They all flew in. - Well, they all, no, now they, one lives in New York, but they all live in the Chicago-Land area, and they all decided to fly in for her birthday. It was nice. It's fun. - It's nice of you to host them. - But Jason, this is what people do for family, and this is what people do. - It's selfless. Her uncle is rich and famous and lives in Hollywood, and so they're gonna go out there and stay in his mansion. That makes sense. What part of that do you not get? - For how long are these strangers gonna be in your house? - Oh, it's nice. They are gonna be here for two or three more days. - How long have they been there already? - They're total of five days. - That is a long day. - Do you know the other girls' names? - Yes. - Taylor, Ainsley, Lilly. Oh, what's the, oh shoot. And the new one. - No, only last time. - This is fun. - Julie and Alondra. - Alondra. - Alondra. - Alondra. Catherine and Julie are surprised guests just threw in the shot. - Oh, it's the, I was close. What did the guests say? - Julie, Julie, I was close. - I was close. - Oh my God, all right, let's get to who is this person. - This is the most fun guest. - Sean, I'm really excited that we're catching in this. This is the Ross we've ever seen you. - No, you can tell I'm nervous, 'cause I, yeah. - No, I know, you are nervous because you just feel you're out of sorts. You're having, you're just waking up. You're raw, and I haven't seen you this Ross and it's fill in the blank. So, no, that was the name of the bar. And then you close it down for health reasons, but fill in the blank. By the way, gross title. Are you guys gonna be the fill in the blank later? (laughing) - Our, our guest is still filling the blank. - Our guest has been active in the film business for many years. Dare I say most of his life, and not just adult life, most of his life life. So Jason, this is gonna be somebody that you can identify with. - This is Kurt Russell. - But this is somebody who's been doing it for so long and who reached such incredible heights of fame as a young person, and has continued to work throughout. It's been incredible. Started in films like Rocket Gibraltar, Born in the Fourth of July. Then movies started to have more success in bigger roles in movies like Uncle Buck, Jacob's Ladder, and then absolutely went through the stratosphere with Home Alone, Home Alone. - Oh, come on! - You're rich. And then Monday, it's McHoly Coggan! (cheering) - McHoly Coggan. - McHoly Coggan. - McHoly Coggan. - McHoly Coggan. - McHoly Coggan. - Oh my god, this is so cool. - He's appropriately dressed in "Smartless PJs." - Oh, yes, of course, yes. - McHoly, I'm so sorry, I was late. I, so many apologies. I'm never late. - I'm not too late for that. - He's just, no, I mean, just Taylor, when Taylor gets going and then just forget it, you know what I mean? - Yeah, I just, I'm not. - You just let her off the leash, I swear. - Can't even, I don't know if you heard about Ed Sheeran, but he's so mysterious. - Look at Holly. - McHoly Coggan. - Oh my god, Lee. - Where are we finding you today? - I mean, I'm in Los Angeles, yeah. - Yeah. - What part? - I live in Tuluka Lake. - I love Lake, I've done a lot of time there. - Yeah. - I like, it sounds like a prison, you know? - No, I don't have time there. - Yeah, I love it there. They got one of the greatest golf clubs in all of America there at Lakeside. - Yeah. - You golf, McHoly? - No, no, but I'm investing in a golf cart. You know, we'll put it that way. - So you can tool around the neighborhood? - Yeah, pretty much, yeah, real. Yeah, you know, 'cause you got a Jones, you know, everyone has a golf cart. So you don't have Jones, you know, yeah. - By the way, you know what's interesting, Sean? I was gonna say McHoly, what's interesting is that you're an Angelino now, perhaps. You live in Los Angeles, but you're a New Yorker, and yet you played a character who's so closely identified with Chicago. - Yes. - So you've kind of really covered the whole country. You're a mayor, you belong to America. - I mean, just say that. - No, that's well put, yes. - Yeah. - But I love how many Yorkers like at Chicago, like, you know, they love me there. I swear to God, I do gang boosters over there. Do you? - Oh yeah. - In Chicago, in Chicago. - Yeah, yeah, in Chicago. - Yeah, Sean, hang on, Sean, Sean, hang on. This is in Chicago. (laughing) - Sean's also done some time there. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, I mean, do you want to just get it over with, and then we can move on to other things. So when I was a kid, and I was in high school, John Hughes was me. making all of his movies in, as you know, in an- -I remember, yes. -Right, yes. I remember. And so it was wild to, I've said this before, it was wild to grow up in the town where he was making the movies and then when I'm in high school, those movies came out about high school. So it was all encompassed, John Hughes, all the time, all around Chicago show. -Who did you, Sean? Who did you identify with? Is it Ducky? -By the way, I got called Ducky all the time. All the time. -I dressed like him and everything. Yeah. -Did you ever see them shooting around the neighborhood, Sean? -No, but Lucas, you know, was filmed in my high school and if you remember that movie, Lucas, anybody? -Yes. -Yes. -And yeah, yeah, yeah. -Charlie Jean, yeah. -Koreham, yeah, well, no, no, no, no writers for that. -That was a great, that was a great little movie actually, Lucas. -Yeah. -I was an, I was an extra. It was like 14 years old. -Oh. -Anyway. -Did you sit in background holding? -Mm-hmm. -You're on a, on a, on a fold out? -Yeah. -We relate to that. -And that little boy. -Did you sit through that? -No, but he wanted. -That's right. -That's right. -Makali Kalkin, by the way, are you excited, Jason, what I thought you were going to say? Are you excited for the release? Because we're going to talk about later, of Zootopia 2. -Yes, very much so. Yes. Me and Brenda are taking a bite of the forbidden fruit. We're playing brother and sister. -Oh, boy. -Yeah. -Oh, boy. -Wait, who is? -Me and my lady. Yeah. -Oh. -Yeah. It's a premiere. -Now, which, what, what, what, what animal is your character? -We, we, we are playing cats that meow is literal. Yeah. -Little kids. Jason, what are you, Jason? You're a fox, right? -Thanks, man. -No. -Haha. -Wait, you, you had that one in the chamber. -Oh. -Makali, you're in Zootopia and Jason, you didn't know which character you were in. -To be honest, you had no idea. Makali was in it. -Yeah, yeah. No, are you, are you kidding me? This is animation. Like, nobody needs anything. -Yeah, nobody needs anything. -Willie, tell them I'm wrong. -Oh, he is. -I honestly don't even know what the film is about. I didn't know what the first film was about. I didn't know until I saw it. -I have had those moments where, and this is so embarrassing. But like Jason, where somebody goes, hey, you run into somebody to go, hey, we're doing the thing and you go, no way. By the way, this is when it's done. This is not going into it. -It's typical of animation. It's done. -Yeah. -You record your scenes, you know, all a cart over the period of a couple of years. -Yeah. -Have you done a bunch of animated stuff, Makali, before? -Yeah. Yeah. Back in the early '90s, like everyone else, I had a Saturday morning cartoon. You know, I remember they gave one to Roseanne Bard, John Candy and Camp Candy. They had a-- -Oh. -It was a Bobby's world. -Howie Mendel. -That's right. -Like Louis Anderson had his own Saturday morning cartoon. -That's right. -You put away, like, like, Candy, you know, yeah, yeah. -Saturday morning cartoons. -You guys was everything from when I was throwing them. -It was me too. Me too, man. -I love that. -It was so-- we're a little bit older than you, Makali, but you probably also remember that feeling of the Saturday morning cartoon. -Oh, yeah. No, look forward to it. I'm raising my kids with, like, Saturday morning cartoons. Like, it's like, yeah, I just-- it's just on YouTube now, but, like, yeah, it's a thing. -Exactly. It's just on YouTube. And what was great about it back then was that we only-- you only got it on Saturday. So, you couldn't-- it just wasn't available 24/7, so it felt really special. -It was a appointment television. -Yeah. -Yeah. -Yeah, yeah. -Wait. All right. So, Makali, we're going to roll it all the way back, like, we like to do. We're going to get right to the beginning, because you did start, like I said, when you were as a-- everybody-- a lot of people know that you started very young acting, not unlike our friend Jason Bateman. -What was the age at which you were-- you decided, or you got-- you and your family decided, like, I'm going to do this. Was this predetermined? Or were you-- -Yeah. -Did you seek it? -What was the thing that started that said, hey, I'm going to-- we should do this? -It was actually-- it was my father, you know, the-- he was going to take my older brother and sister. And he was going to take, like, head shots of them in the park, and it was-- and then my mom was kind of just, like, oh, just take Mak with you. Like, you know, I think she just wanted a break, and yeah, I just started booking right away. I started out earning everyone else pretty fast. -Wow. -Really through commercials and stuff? -I mean, you know, it was more-- I did, like, Black Box Cedar in Manhattan, and I got written up for that. And then, honestly, I just-- I jumped pretty much straight to film. I did a couple of commercials here and there, but that-- but, like, literally out of the gate, it was Black Box Cedar and then cinema. -Wow. -So, am I right? The rocket Gibraltar was your first film as well? -Yeah, yeah. -And actually, Bert Lane Caster is one of his last movies, and they hired a bunch of New York stage actors. And I was a, you know, stage actor. And I was like, um, who's like Bill Pullman, Patricia Clarkson, uh, Spacey was in it and stuff like that. -Oh, yeah. -Yeah. -Yeah. -What was your-- what was your-- what was that life you first experience on a film set? How old were you, Jermaine? -I was six. -Wow. -Yeah. So, I just knew whatever the memorized your lines don't look in the camera, you know, find your light, hit your marks, things like that. I was-- it was pretty-- -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -It was pretty interesting. -You were still trying to nail that. -Yeah. -No, but that's what posed my mind when young kids, like yourself, and how do they know to do that? Like, there's so many kids that can't do that. -What, like, did your parents give you that? -Yeah. -I mean, yeah, pretty much, you know, like, uh, you know, you're-- when you're a kid, you're a fast learner, you know? -Yeah. -It was a draw, the same for you as it was for me, it was just like, basically, I get to skip school. That's all I was looking at. -You know, as it went on, for me, as it went on, it was actually the opposite, because I was always away, and I didn't like-- and you have to remember, a lot of my work, oh, and I was, you know, pretty much when I was younger, I never worked with people my own age. I was always working with adults and stuff like that. -Right. -So, like, yeah. So, if anything, I kind of had a yearning to, like, go to school to, like, you know, have contemporaries and things like that. -And did you ever? -Yeah. I was like, quit. I quit when I was a 14, quit for, like, nearly a decade, and, yeah, no, just, just, with the school, with the high school, you know, fell in love, got, you know, and got-- -What was that like? -Got drunk for the first time. Things like that. -Yeah, well, what was that like? I mean, because you had, as I pointed out, we all know you had incredible success. First of all, Uncle Buck, it's just an absolute gem of a film, it holds up. I watch it, like, once a year, I think kills me. -You have great kids. You were part of that John Candy documentary, too, about, right? -Yeah. Yeah, that was lovely. Yeah, I know. It really was a good tribute to him. It really did him justice. And it was-- they were actually-- they were trying to track me down for a while, and I just kind of kept on just going, yeah, I'll get around to it, and it's never did. And then, finally, yeah, finally, they tracked me down on the, on the carpet when they did the premiere. I talked to Colin Hanks. He was the one who directed it. And I said, who was harder to track down me, or Bill Murray? He goes, you. He didn't even blink. -Wow. Really? -So, what was John Candy like? Because I've always just-- that guy to me is just such a giant. -Yeah. No, he was sweet. He was very giving. They always say, don't work with kids or animals, but he was actually really good with me. Yeah, he was very sweet. I did three films with him, because he was also in Home Alone, and also, I had a brief part in Only the Lonely. -Oh, yeah. -Yeah. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -When you took your 10-year hiatus, was there an expectation that your spot would be held for you in line, or were you, at that point, were you like, I don't really care if I come back to this industry. -I was done skis. I was full. -Yeah. -I was done skis. -Yeah. -Yeah. -I was like, I hope you all made your money, because there's no more coming from me. -Oh, yeah. -I made my name, I made my mark, I made my fortune, like so I don't-- you know, like, the only reason why I even, like, do it now is because I like to do it, you know, it's the, you know, it's a play, a pay, pleasure, prestige. That's the only reason to do a gig. Technically, I'm retired right now. Like, I retire, and then if I find something I like, I unretired do that, and I immediately retire afterward. -Yeah. -Every gig is my last. -Shut up. He just acts like he's retired. He's not retired, but he just sleeps and he does it every once, he's what. -When you were not acting and you were going through high school and then, and then hitting the college years, was there, was there a thought to study a different industry? Was there an interest poll anywhere? -Not necessarily. You know, I was kind of just drifting around and trying to figure out kind of what I wanted out of life and so forth. And I mean, listen, this was a calling that found me. I didn't find it. And so I wanted to explore that in a different kind of way on my terms. -Right. We'll talk about that because I went through a very similar thing, where it's just like, well, I'm young enough to really start over. And at something that I can sort of drive a little bit more, I can have much more say in my longevity and my relevance and my access in any other career, any other occupation, any other industry. -Did you want to do something else, JB? -I did. I desperately wanted to do something that I could count on, that I wasn't so nervous about maintaining employment and so I got another job before I ever fully went into studying something else. But was that a part of your thinking at all, McCauley, tell us about that, about just thinking about going forward and providing? -I mean, I was in the position where I could just put my thumb up and play video games all day long. I could do anything I wanted. -Yeah. -There was enough employment before you quit at 14 to cover you for the rest of your life. -Indeed. -Oh, great. -Wow. -That's great. -That was not my case. -But there was that-- -May that hold you? -May that hold you? It wasn't enough. No, you did okay. I mean, we were all, I was spending too much. I was having fun, you know. On why? On just like basically catching up. And we will be right back. And now back to the show. So McColley, but you know, it's funny you use the expression you said, you know, there's no more money to be made off me or something like that. Which I wonder like when you did quit in your 14, was there a sense of like that you had, was there a sense of resentment towards people who had made money off you in a way? No, no, I mean, I got the lion's share of it. Yeah, yeah. No, but it was also, it was kind of a rat race, like it was, I remember when I stopped having fun, I wanted to kind of, I wanted to take a break and I said, I was getting really taxed and like, yeah, I just kind of want to do like a semester of school, you know, that kind of thing. And I was not hurt and that was something that really affected me and affected my work and so like that. And then it was just like, oh, I'm on the hamster wheel and I can't get off. And so once I had some autonomy and some agency in my life, yeah, I graduate with both hands, you know, yeah. But that's a big burden for a kid of 14. First of all, it's kind of a big realization for a kid of 14 to be able to actually listen to yourself and go, hey, this doesn't feel great and the people that I'm trusting, I'm trying to, I'm trying to tell people this is how I feel and they're not necessarily recognizing that. There's got to be, I can imagine, I mean, I can only sort of try to imagine how I would feel if I felt like there must be a frustration in there a little bit. I'm not, by the way, I'm not trying to push you into a position. I'm just curious. No, no, no. I mean, I was definitely frustrated. Look, yeah, and it was, yeah, again, it was kind of just like, yeah, once I had the chance to get off, it was like cool, and I said, I'll just figure it all out later. You know, yeah, I'll just, oh, you know, and that's kind of what I did, you know. And I imagine that were you like other child actors, myself included, was it the inevitability of your parents being your manager? Was that the case in your life as well? Yeah, yeah. And I had a pretty acrimonious relationship with my father, famously so. Oh, yeah. And as soon as I was able to kind of push him out, like, yeah, just my quality of life on the day to day level definitely went up. Right. Gotcha. Yeah. I had a very complicated relationship with that as well. Certainly, as you get older, in retrospect, it becomes even more complicated as you become a parent. And you start to think about the decisions that they make about being an employee in your life and how that adjusts the dynamic of how you look at your parents as, you know, what should be sort of your North Star, the person that you follow, when instead they now create a dynamic where you're the boss at an age when you're kind of needing parental time. Yeah. And that's where their bright is buttered, you know, yeah. Yeah. It's really complicated. But, you know, I think you look to be on the other side of that very healthily. I hope I am. But JB, you pointed out before this idea, McCully, I don't know if you had this, but this is always stuck with me, JB, and I think about it from time to time. Really, I do, that you, I remember you saying you had to keep your grades up in order to keep working, right? That they're by law. Every six months. And so there was a pressure to keep your grades up so that you could work so that you could pay the bills because you were the bad winner, right? Yeah. Yeah. Every six months, it was a grading period. You had to maintain a C average or you lose your work permit. And so whatever job you're on, you would be fired immediately. And so all the crew members go out of work, all the network gets upset, the parent, you know, like you're, and you're a kid. Yeah. So mid terms and finals when you're doing a test that affects your grade by like 60 or 70%. It's just like earth shattering, fresh air. Right. Did you have that? Did you experience that, McCully? Not really. I was pretty fairly good at good student and I had a pretty, a pretty great onset tutor. Okay. It was very sympathetic to me and just when it came to, like she could tell when I was tired or burnt out or something like that. You're having trouble answering any questions, you're just whispering. Yeah. I wasn't like that. I wasn't like that, you know, but you know, she definitely, she definitely like would lay off me. Like she's. Yo, just keep me awake. You don't know this. No, she's like, read me like the outsiders, just something like that. Just like, hey, just look at him. I'm going to read it to you. Kind of thing. Yeah. Things like that. Like you knew, yeah. That was pretty great. You just rest your head again. Where is this tight, golden pony boy, get over here. Wow. Well, I mean, by the way, so then what we're not, what we're also not addressing is the fact. So you decided 14 year, like, look, I'd eat a break. I kind of want to shift gears here. I don't know if I want to do this anymore. Huge shift and compounded by the fact that you're about as famous a person there is on the planet at this point. Yeah. So there's still this day. So this day, of course, but I'm saying that at 14, yeah, it was, it was a difficult tricky waters to maneuver through and stuff like that because you don't necessarily have the actual or emotional vocabulary to really kind of, you know, maneuver through those waters. And I always kind of thought of myself as a pure, was person like I couldn't turn left and right. Like, you know, like, and go, oh, you're like me. Like, you know, it was a very unique experience. Yeah. And so, yeah, you know, so, yeah, it was, you know, I kind of had to like, you know, just figure it out on my own for a big chunk of it. Yeah, I was going to say, like, how have you adjusted, if at all, how you are in public going to anywhere? Like do you feel like you have to kind of compromise yourself and go, "God, here we go." I definitely have to gird myself, you know, for, you know, outings and so forth. I, you know, I just set certain ground rules for myself, like, you know, just, yeah, like, don't approach me when I'm at the dinner table. I don't like that, you know, don't approach me when I'm with my kids. Definitely don't follow me to the bathroom, you know, like things like that, you know, yeah. And I just realized that I'm in charge of the social contract. Sorry. I'm in charge of the interaction. So, what are you scratching off on? What list? What are you doing? Oh. I'm looking to win. No room. No room. No room. Sean drops a lot of notes that say, please follow me to the bathroom. Yeah. So, what the hell? So, then, so then there you are. So then there you are. And now you take a decade off or whatever it was, a huge chunk of time. What's the moment where you go? I want to go back. Or you know, you kind of get to like the end of high school and you kind of just like, oh, what am I going to do with my life? You know, again, I could kind of do whatever I wanted. You know, there was that kind of thought where, like I said, this was something that found me. I didn't find it. Let me try this on for size a little bit. So, it was about 20 or so, 2021. I went to London to play there for a year, brought it back to the States. That was fun. It was a successful. And then, you know, jumped into party monster, then I did say what play was it? It's called Madame Melville. Was it at the bar began? The Vaudville theater on the Strand. Sorry Jason, I had a question. Nothing. Was there ever thought, was there thought to go to college at all to study different career? Not necessarily. No. Like it's said, I mean, unless I had like a focus on something, I didn't really see the point of it. Like, just get a degree in general. Like, if I wanted to be like, you know, wanted to study like English literature, so I thought, yeah, that would make sense. You know, but I didn't have that, necessarily, that kind of bone in my body. So yeah, I kind of just, although I did kind of, I semi regret it because I remember visiting friends at college and go, that looks like fun, you know, yeah, but again, it would have been purely social, really, you know, it's like, yeah, I'm paying all that money to be social with people. It was social life enough outside of college to, to passify that. Yeah. No, definitely. You know, yeah. I've had a good groups of friends and so forth and, you know, so I thought you were, I thought Jason, you were saying, did you party? Basically, I'm looking at my daughter at college right now and just like, it just, it looks like so much damn fun. I mean, I definitely had fun without college, but my God, the whole sort of, and then because it's like this great counterbalance, like, once you kind of sober up and you get past your hang or whatever, you do want to kind of balance it with something. I didn't have that opportunity with college. You can go listen to some incredible professor give a lecture on something and you can kind of bathe yourself with something that's a, it's high brow, you know, I don't know, it just would have been a good, good, good thing for me. You sound so wistful, you know. I know. I know. Yeah. All I had was Charlie Rose and New York Times to serve me at myself. Mick, Holly, did you ever guest our in a sitcom or anything? Uh, yeah, it's funny. There was, there was one long time ago, jeez, I can't remember the name of it. Ah. Oh, great. Yeah. Yeah, I did. So do Will and Grace. Yeah. Fantastic. Oh, thanks. Yeah. No, I remember you were talking about how, uh, it turned about Nancy Klumsky. Yeah. That was like, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were like, I know Nancy. I know Nancy and Anna. You know, yeah. Wait. Oh, that's right because of you. And you were like, you did an impersonation of her. I was like, I'm spot on. I can see her in like 15 years. But I was like, yeah, you pinged me. That's right. Of Anna's mom, Nancy. Wait, because you were in, um, uh, my girl. Yes. You're my girl together. Yeah. Anna and I grew up in Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a small town really. You were great. You were great on the show. It was, it was fun. Yeah. I mostly worked with, uh, Megan and stuff. But that was, that was fun. You know, yeah. Yeah. To be fair, also, I didn't know what I was walking into. >> Exactly, you guys have any of that. >> So McLean, so you take the break, you come back, you do a theater, you come back to New York, and then you do party monster, and I remember that was kind of like your big return. >> Right. >> It was like a big Sundance hit, right? >> Yeah, it was, yeah, it's kind of what I wanted, I was like, oh, I saw the Sundance looks cool. I wanted to send Sundancey and stuff, it was basically a true story, the book was really good. It was kind of a left of center, kind of material, I didn't want to just jump into studio fare really. >> And did you feel satisfied once you did that, not satisfied in terms of like I'm good for it, but did you feel like, okay, I'm doing the right thing here, I'm back, I'm kind of driving my own train here a little bit now. >> Yeah, definitely, it was nice to try those boots on for size. And yeah, and kind of, again, having some, you know, autonomy, like I said, in agency, where I was kind of like, oh, this is what I want to do. And yeah, it was a ton of fun, it was very different, so I was doing all these really expensive studio kind of gigs. And next thing you know, we're kind of guerrilla filming in Times Square, waiting for the police patrol to go by so that we can film, and then you know, got to wait again. And Seth Green's dress like a pork chop, I'm wearing just nothing, but just like a feather bow as an entire outfit. >> Yeah, great, great movie, and it was, that was great movie, what do you laugh at Jason? >> I'm gonna call it, I was wearing a feather ball, it's complete out, but it's Sean's like, yeah, yeah. >> I love that movie. I love that movie. I'm just woke up, Sean's very right, he just woke up. >> Wait, so, wait, so Brenda, right, is there a name for Brenda? >> Yeah, yeah, Brenda, yeah, yeah, and so, yeah, is she, forgive me, that's your wife? Yeah, we're actually, we're unwed, uh, uh, interracial couples. So yeah, we check all the boxes when it comes to, uh, uh, uh, well, but wait, for them, you haven't slept together. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, twice really, you know, uh, wait a second. I have the makers have then. Oh, look at those kids. Boys. Two boys. My guests, right? Yeah. Uh, the maker of men. Oh, wait, let me see it again. Let me see it again. We went and went to, and are you up to tap it again? Like dark. Yeah. Face ID. Look at those things. Oh, that's great. I can't wear a double-breasted jacket. Yeah. No, they're too boxy on me. You ever tried rockin' a mohawk, dude? Yeah. They're too boxy on me. Um, all right. So where, when, when, when, when did you meet your, your, your, your, your baby mama? Yeah, yeah. Uh, we did a film together in Thailand. I went all the way to Thailand to be the Thai girl from Sacramento. Uh, and, uh, yeah. Um, yeah. And that we cut it back there. We didn't have any scenes together, but we had a lot of free time. Let's put it that way. And then, uh, yeah. And I think, I think, especially she, she was looking at, oh, this is going to be a fling. And I think we both were like fling, you know, yeah. And she's like, I never had a fling before. And, uh, yeah, we got back to the States and, uh, we kept it going. And, you know, yeah. How long has that been? Uh, about eight and a half years now. Yeah. Oh, wow. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll get married someday. You know, I mean, it's funny because, uh, she, she wanted me to propose, she wanted to get married. And so finally, I put a ring on it. And now, she's in no hurry to get married. I'm like, wait a second. Like, it's, like, I was engaged, perpetually engaged. Yeah. It's been, she's about four, four years, almost on the, uh, we got engaged on Christmas of 2021. Yeah. All right. Now, how do you like being a dad? I mean, it's, uh, considering the, the incredibly colorful childhood you had, um, are you enjoying, uh, having that role now? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I absolutely love it. You know, yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's a little, it's, it was strange, um, because it's, I didn't really have a lot of, uh, uh, I'm kind of reinventing the wheel. I didn't really have any good role models. So, you know, my, my father was a god damn piece of work. Uh, right. And it was completely untraditional nonsense. It was, it was, it was absolutely scary. And yeah, like I said, like my, you know, like what, like what a proper family was, it was more, you know, it was like a watching something like a, you know, growing pains or family ties or something like that. You know, because I definitely did not have a conventional family. So how many of your siblings? Sorry. Oh, I'm third of seven kids. My, my mother did not have a family. She had a litter, a litter of coconuts. Wow, sure. Wow. Um, so are you, do you, do you guys run a very then traditional house? Like is there Sunday dinners and yeah? Yeah. I mean, we definitely were matching pajamas. Um, we did, you know, and yeah, no, it's a, they're, they have a more structured life than I did. Mine was kind of more freewheeling kind of, you know, like a, it makes you want to be a better dad, right? Indeed. Indeed. You know, yeah, that's, that's the little thing. I don't want the sins of my father being passed on to my kids. Right. Right. So yeah. I'm, you know, so yeah. I mean, and are you, so are you close to your, uh, your family, your, your family of origin? Like your, your siblings and, um, a little bit, I mean, yeah, I mean, I, I keep in touch, but they're, they're all East Coast. They, none of them have ever lived outside of New York City. Uh, I've, I've lived all over the place and stuff. So I'm 3000 miles away. So it's, I don't see them as often a touch base, things like that, you know, Merry Christmas. How many of them are, are, performers? Well, I know that you're, you're, your brother, Kearn's an actor, of course. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm very proud of him. Between me and him, we have exactly one Oscar. Yeah. That's good. That's really good. And, uh, and, and my brother, Rory, he, he works a lot too. He actually works for the mean Kearn combined. He just, he's just doing a bunch of Indies and stuff. He's always, he's always moving. Is it nice? Is it nice to be able to reach out to a sibling and, and discuss the, the oddities of, of this business? I know I enjoy that sometimes with my sister. No, we don't really, we don't really talk shop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were kind of a, I mean, occasionally you kind of touch base on it, kind of thing. But it's like, you know, like, you know, just just because, like, you know, it's just because you're both male men. Doesn't mean you want to talk about the male, you know, that, what about your, is your wife still acting? Oh, yeah. No, she's, she, she, she, uh, she's, uh, always swimming. She's always moving forward. She's on that show running point. She just finished season two last week. Oh, wow. And she's, uh, she's got, she's working on two films in January and March and stuff. Look, yeah, she, she, she books, uh, she likes it. She likes to pursuit. I don't really like the pursuit. I like the work itself. Right. She likes the whole package. She loves auditioning. I freaking hate it. Like, things like that, you know, yeah. Me too. Oh, yeah. So she's a bit of a massacess then, huh? Yes indeed. You know, but listen, uh, God bless her because she, uh, she knew what she wanted out of life. Uh, and she knew what to pursue and she pursues it to her fullest, uh, which is very admirable. You know, admirable. But, uh, yeah, I, you know, for me, I'm kind of just, uh, I'm kind of more of a, like, she's a shark. She has to keep swimming or she drowns. I'm more of a kind of a, I'm kind of more of a feeder fish. I kind of live things to do me kind of thing. You know, yeah. All right. Well, but, uh, Makali, you sound so, I, I don't mean to press you on this. I'm just, I'm purely curious because, uh, I, we come from some similar backgrounds, but, like, I'm, I'm so, uh, in awe of your, your contentment, like, it seems like you, uh, you know, I'll take it if it comes. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm not particularly obsessed or drawn to any one particular thing. There's no, there's, in other words, are, are you, do you have anything at, like, I've got to get this done before I die? Uh, not necessarily. I mean, at least it comes like my work and things like that. Uh, it's like, you know, gosh, I mean, you know, I practically just, sometimes I used to do, like, general meetings, like, for a living kind of thing. You know, they want, they want a silver bullet idea. You know, I mean, they want, oh, like, they want me to go, I want to play a doctor, but a cookie one. You know, I want to play a quarterback. You know, I don't really have that. I let things how to come to me. It's the, um, the old, uh, you know, um, was the case before the Supreme Court. They were like, uh, what they tried to define what pornography was. Right. And pornography, the definition of it according to the Supreme Court is, I know it when I see it. Uh, literally what he said, you know, so, uh, so I, I, I'll know it when I see it. I treat, I treat, I treat it like pornography pretty much what I've tried this way. Sure. But acting is a thing that, that you're interested in pursuing at this moment. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. I, uh, yeah. I'm on the new show, uh, Fallout, or, you know, that I'm doing season two of that. And so, we're talking that earlier in the year and stuff. But like, yeah, like, here's the thing is that you can't get caught in the rat race. You know, you could win an Oscar, right? In your backstage and you're doing the press conference and you're holding your trophy, you're the top of your game. And do you know what they ask you? What are you doing next? Right. Because if it's not good enough, you know, and I don't buy you into that. I think about all the people that have won Oscars, even been nominated, and there's just nothing that comes afterwards. It's like, that is not, that's not the thing. It's so, and that's, that's why I'm asking. It's like, you couldn't, you couldn't ever be more famous than you are now. Um, and so it's clearly not fame or money that you're, is it, are you interested in literally just playing different people like the whole literal thing that an actor does? Is that interesting to you? Like, are you fascinated by different kinds of people? Yeah. Yeah. No. I like, I like the adventure of quality of different shoes and things like that. And, um, you know, it's something that's kind of like just, it comes pretty naturally to me and so forth. I mean, I, I've had a director. He was like, how could, he goes, are you doing that on purpose? I'm like, what? He goes, you walk different when they, when I call action. I'm like, no, I just do it. Like, you know, I mean, I don't practice it in the mirror and stuff like that. I kind of, like, just kind of wrapped myself up in some of these things and kind of just not, not thinking, make it reflexive, you know, I looked on your Instagram. I saw that you were in Vegas. Do you like Las Vegas? I love Vegas. I know, I, I had to convince Brenda. She was like, I don't like gambling and stuff. I go, no, no, the food's great. You know, the shows are cool and stuff. And now, now I got her at the tables, though. Now, now she, now she's a blackjack player. I mean, it's the best. Why is that your game? Yeah. Yeah. Play blackjack. You know, sometimes I'll door little on our roulette and so forth you know yeah but uh yeah I don't I don't play crap God doesn't play You know, you know, you either do that. Sean, Sean, if you, I've been to Vegas with Sean before. If you didn't, if you didn't pull them away from the tip, like if Sean happened to be there for a week, he'd lose it all. It's unbelievable. It's a lot of the game. It's a lot of truth. But no blackjack. It's unreal. I saw him once splitting, splitting ACES bubble. He didn't hit. And at one point he had, I don't even want to say it was obscene. He just coming. Yeah, double down, double down, double, double. I'm like, dude, what are you doing? Yeah, yeah. Well, when you had a few, you just kind of make bad as well. But I don't drink when I gamble. That's the trick. I don't think you've been winning unless you're drunk. That was my problem. But, but I do that. We let a lot. And I almost always win because I just almost bet on every number. You know what I mean? So they look for folks like you, you know, we'll be right back. And back to the show. What about the sphere? Have you been in the sphere yet? Yeah, we saw a backstreet boys there. My lady was living her best life. She actually dressed like she really dressed the part. She looked like a mom that was a big fan of backstreet boys. I mean, she was wearing all white with the bandana. She, she dazzled her own shirt for it. It was freaking amazing. Like you know, yeah, I was, you know, I was never a backstreet boys guys like that. But man, it was it was actually really great. We got to meet the boys. They were very sweet. You know, I think she wants to go back before the end of the year. I think they're doing a Christmas like residency to guns to your head. Mac, you got to pick one. One of the boys is your favorite. Oh my god. Well, what's the scenario where there's a gun to his head? But he's a fox. Kevin is a fox. Yes, he is. He was the fuck Kevin speaking of Kevin. I'm going to drag it back to him. Nice. Yeah. Do you know, do you know the story that there is a footballer? This is a, this is a long tie in a footballer who plays professional soccer in Belgium. I believe he plays for union. There's a professional footballer called Alexis McAllister. He's a midfielder for Liverpool. I love him. He won the World Cup with Argentina is incredible. His family is a virus to set. But they grew up. It's like his great-grandparents moved to Argentina. His brother Kevin plays professional as well in Belgium. And he found out when he was 18 that he was named after your character. No way. Is that true? His name's Kevin McAllister. And his name's Kevin McAllister and his brother plays for Liverpool. I should get his jersey and I should sign it and get sent it back to him. I'm going to look this up. Yeah. And I remember watching because they played Champions League last year randomly Liverpool and the brothers played each other and the commentator goes, "Did you know that he found out when he was named?" Was there a time, McAllister, because I've asked this before and it's happened to me, probably all of us. When you're so identified with somebody like I was with Bill and Grace and you with Kevin McAllister, where you fought the attention it brought you for so many years and then something clicked, you're like, "You know what? I need to embrace this thing." And like it kind of made me who I am. Was there a moment like that, do you remember? It was definitely burdensome for sure. The trick is just relax, set up your own ground rules, things like that, realizing that I'm in charge of the social interaction. Usually when people meet a celebrity they go, "I'm going to be cool." And then they turn into something else. And so it's kind of, it's like, "Oh, I'm in charge. I can guide this interaction." And also I know all kinds of shortcuts and stuff like that. If you want to end it, you just go, "Nice to meet you." Or have a great day or something like that. And a lot of times they walk away before they even realize the interactions over with and like, "Oh, man, I didn't get that photo." Yeah, you sure didn't. Bye. But when you were, how old were you? Did the first home alone? It was nine when I did that. Yeah. So you're nine, you do that movie and you're still living at home in New York, right? It's the 35 year anniversary of it, actually. Oh wow. The Academy Museum later this month, yeah. Oh wow, that's cool. That's the same. So you're nine years old, you're super famous and you're still living at home with your parents and your siblings. I imagine in New York. But you're the most famous person on the planet walking down the same street. That must have been an adjustment. Yeah, it was a lot. I was in like an old Irish neighborhood and stuff like that. I'm an actor. I'm a ballet dancer. I'm all these things. What the fuck is this? It was a little bit of that. But there was also, yeah. But yeah, no, it was strange. There was some whiplash. I was shooting "My Girl" in Orlando when the first home alone came out. I was kind of an actor, yada, yada, yada. But it wasn't a big deal. And then that movie came out. And then I remember the old neighborhood kids, just of that little community I was living in. We're now picking through my window. I was like, wait, I know you. You're Jimmy-Jim-Jim over there. And it's like, no, all of a sudden, it's like, oh, I'm different. I'm not one of them anymore. It was like that, you know? So, yeah, there was kind of an adjustment period there. And I kind of maneuvered those waters as best I could. I really wasn't giving a lot of tools. So, it was kind of just, yeah, I kind of just had to embrace it. But for me, everything made sense. You know, you aren't a hero's journey. You know, you do little black bucks, theater, you do smaller movies, you do bigger movies. And then you're a huge fat superstar. That makes sense. That's the hero's journey. And it's not until you have perspective. I go, oh, this is quite abnormal, actually. There's a lot of people who are hacking away at it, and they don't get there. Talk a little bit more about that sort of dichotomy of you are embraced and a part of such a huge global community. You're one of all, the whole world wants to talk to you. But then you have like that moment with your immediate group, your friends, you know, down the block. And there's kind of this thing that eats at you that you're really not one of them. Like they talk, they talk to you and about you a little bit differently. Like when you go back to your regular school or whatever. I remember feeling so lonely and disconnected with that such that, you know, when I had the time and the money to do it, I like, I overcompensated for trying to get back into that community and just partied like crazy and tried to like, you know, be one of the guys. Did you go through any of that yourself? Oh, yeah, yeah, I definitely did plenty of partying and so forth, you know, I mean, but in pursuit of that to try to get back and just be one of the guys. Yeah, no, that was I said I wanted to go to school, you know, I was mostly for social reasons. I wanted to hang out with people my age. That was a big thing for me. And so I definitely wanted that, but, you know, but it's, you know, it's interesting. It's like, you know, you know, how everyone you're told when you're younger, everyone's delicate snowflake, you know, everyone's different and so like that. I truly felt different, you know, I mean, like, yeah, like in rather than looking as a burden, it was kind of like, no, I'm a unicorn, you know, like, yeah, I'm some kind of mythical creature. I am different and I kind of enjoyed that as well, but at the same time, again, you are kind of alone on an island. You know, you are, you know, getting a pureless person, you know, someone who's an accountant can turn left and right and there's other accountants in the office. Like, I don't get to have that, but, but also like, not only that and then, and then there also there is the, you know, the sort of the commerce of it. Did you appreciate your 910, you're making the deal for the next one? I remember like, that stuff's like published in the paper about how big it's going to be and all that kind of stuff. Did you, how do you, how do you sort of absorb that kind of information when you're 910, 11 years old? I knew I was making some bank, I do that, but I didn't, you know, you know, you're, you're 910, you're not, I'm not reading, I'm not reading entertainment weekly, you know. I'm watching the new X-Men cartoon, you know, that's what I'm doing, you know, yeah, trying to find some, you know, normality, you know, in my life and stuff like that. So I didn't really keep track of it. I was kind of also, I didn't like, you know, I wasn't told how much I was being paid either. I called it the tiny slip of paper kind of meeting. I turned 18 and I go to my business manager's office and, you know, boom, he has all my financials and he just slides it across the table. And it's like, okay, this is what you got. And I had a sense of how much it was and it was about, you know, it's about right. Yeah. And also, I'm just very fortunate because a lot of people, you know, a lot of kids, they, you know, they work not just in this business, but all around the world. You know, there's, you know, people working in, you know, diamond mines in Africa. You know, there's, you know, there's, you know, there's, in the slums Mumbai, they got nothing to show for it. So I'm, I'm, I wake up very blessed every day and knowing that, like, yeah, I came out the other end of the spin. So, so, so, like Jason referred to before about, you just seem so chill and together and like you figured it out for yourself, which is great. You were in pajamas for Christ. Exactly. Yeah. I'm on the clock, you know. Yeah. So what, so what's your, what are you worried about? What's the thing that you worry about? Um, not, you know, I mean, standard stuff. You want to make sure, you know, I raised my boys, right? Yeah. You know, make sure the ladies, like, you know, happy that, you know, that, you know, our cups are full, you know, it's that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's centered kind of stuff because again, if I never work again, I'm totally fine when it comes to acting or anything like that. Like, you know, like, every job is my last job. I'm in a constant state of retirement until I'm not, you know, that I retire again. Um, so yeah, I don't, I don't look, my trick is I don't look for satisfaction, uh, over there. Yeah. I turn inward for income stuff, you know, but both me and my family, you know, what do you do to give it to alleviate, uh, the stress? Do you have, do you have a, do you have a hobby that brings you great pleasure that the people would be surprised about? Uh, you know, uh, uh, will you like this? I'm a big Lego guy. Really? Yes. I build a lot of Legos. I probably in the last, I probably built about 30 sets in the last like 40 days, looking like. - Yeah, yeah. - You know, Lego has, I will say, it does have real sort of thing called me. - Yeah, there's a sort of restorative quality to it. - Yeah, to the soul. - You sort things out, you build it piece by piece. You know, you get that release of endorphins when you're done and that sense of accomplishment and so forth. - It's therapeutic, it can be really therapeutic in a way. - Are you at the level now that, and I am not, in fact, I haven't thought about this until just this moment. Or do you go without the books? - Oh, no, no, I still do the books, but I do that some of the 10,000 piece sets and stuff like that too. I clocked myself, I do just under 500 pieces an hour, I can do, you know, you know, yeah, like it depends, what kind of thing. - I don't like what I'm saying. - Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sick of nature at this point. - Yeah, do you have like a brainiac in like that way, right? - No, no, I just, you know, I can anticipate. If you do it long enough, you can anticipate what they're going to do next, so what I sort things and so forth. - I want you to try one without the books. One of these things. - That'll be interesting, yeah, see what it looks like. - Because of that, do you have like OCD, because you like to make things like complete like that? - No, not necessarily. Like, it keeps my mind and my hands busy, you know? And, yeah, and also it's decorative and so forth. I love like, I'll build like an avengers set, and then my three and four year old just tear it absolutely apart, but it's like that. But also that's what it's, honestly, I kind of like that, you know, it's like, what is it, it's like the Chinese, like a, like vases or whatever, they build them, and then they smash them and then put them back together, and that's kind of, you know, that's the beauty of it. - Do you get annoyed when your boys try to help? - No, not at all. No, if anything, like, they're on like the duplo stuff, so it's all the oversized things. But I'm really looking forward to building like, you know, some proper sets with them, and they have helped me. I'm like, oh, give me that red one, please. And like, you know, so they're going to super be into it. They love it, I always get them little Lego men and things like that, those mystery boxes and all that stuff. Yeah, there's some-- - McColley, I'm going to, I have deep connections with the folks over in Denmark and with the Lego company. I'm going to get you in touch with them. I think that you need to do like a signature build, like design a build for the world. The McColley call consent. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll open up that gateway for me. Yeah, for sure. You know, we were just on Fridays and Saturdays on the non-school nights. We do slumber parties, and Mama Poppa's bed. And let Clockwork, they like the Lego movie, but also they're super into Lego Batman. They're super into it. My oldest dress is Batman, this Halloween, because he's a big fan of Lego Batman, you know. - Oh, that's great. - Yeah, and then, yeah, so he was Batman. She was Robin and I asked him, oh, what do you want me to be? He was, I want you to be a toilet. - Wow. - Oh, that's right, I saw that. I saw you when it was a toilet. - I was a toilet. - Yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah, but you know, if you're so nasty to be a toilet, you've got to be the best thing toilet you can be. - Yeah, so that's it. Yeah. - There we go. - See, just for context. - Very. - Look at that. - Ah, that's hilarious. - Yeah. - How'd you do that? Did you make that? - Yeah, yeah, I just pieced it together with Amazon stuff and everything like that. You know, it's the white crocs really tied the room together. Like Lebowski's rug. - I think that if you go as a toilet, you hope that everybody around you doesn't give a shit. - Oh yeah. - Well, our next. - I would jump out from behind trees going, "Poo, I walk by, like I still want to, like there was somebody dressed as a banana. I go see you later." You know, look at all the guys. Like, "Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, I love corn." You know, yeah. - Wow. - And I had a little bag in my bowl and stuff like that. And they, like, "Oh, I'd be trick-or-treating." And they, like, do you want some candy go? "Oh, no, I just eat poo." And then I would have a sticker's bar ready. "Oh, I love poo." Like, kids loved it. I, this one came, it was following me around the entire time all around the neighborhood. You know, yeah. I loved the fact he's like, "Look, it's a walking-tucking toilet." - Meanwhile, Sean is hiding in his house with the lights off and a sign on the front door saying, "Keep moving." - Yeah, that's true. - No, we know. We know you've got a house full of candy, even when it's not Halloween. And you don't want to give any of it away to kids. - Like, like, like, smouger, something. - Yeah. - No way. - Wow. - Orbit. - Wait, what's the, what's the perfect day with you and your family? Just, I know you just said that slumber thing, which is global. - Yeah, would you slumber party? I really love that. - You know, I'm teaching my boys how to be romantic. So I teach them to trade or chose and pick out flowers so they can give it to grandma and mama and stuff like that. Like, I like doing that kind of stuff. You know, I like teaching them things. Like, you know, yeah, it's good. But man, they're at that age. They're running me ragged. Like, just, you know, do it. It's like 40 minutes straight to cardio. Just, like, yeah, playing, playing. He's like, "You be the bad guy. I'll be the police and you be the fireman." Oh, he's like, "Okay, okay." And it's like, "Oh, man, I'm literally setting fires." So the fireman can put it out. You know, yeah, I like that. - I sure am. - Oh, right on me ragged. But they're that really sweet spot with their, like, they are little people now. They have opinions and the way they converse just being a fly on the wall, it's so cute. You know, yeah. - It's so good. - I think Grandma taught the boys, my youngest, who's three, taught them our real names. - Oh, it's interesting. - So he's like, "What's your Papa's name?" He's like, "Makawi Kouki." - Yeah. - And he's like, "What's your mother?" "Bundas Tongue." - Oh, yeah. - I don't know, that's always kind of fast name when you learn your parents' names really. I thought it was mom and dad, yeah. - Well, my oldest, my kids, they look at like a sweet life as Zach Cody, that was the show that my lady was on when she was a kid. They watch that and they'll go, "Oh, that's Mama on TV." I showed them home alone. My oldest, especially, he thinks he's Kevin McAllister. He doesn't put it, he doesn't put it together. It's me, like, you know. So he sits there and I'm like, "Oh, do you remember going down the stairs on a slay?" He's like, "Yep, yep, yep, yep." "Do you remember, you know, sitting on trash for the bad guy?" He's like, "Yeah, sure, do." I'm like, "You liar." You lying liar, who lies. That was me. Do you like your shoes? That's what paid for your shoes. - All right, so he's no resemblance between you and the kid in that movie. I love that. - No, he has no idea. And one day, I'm waiting for the big reveal. We're all of a sudden, he's just gonna turn to me and go, "Hey, wait, Zach, I'm not gonna tell him." I'm sure some kids are gonna spoil the reveal at school. We're doing recess or something like that. But he's gonna turn and go, "You've been the whole time, yeah, the whole time." But you know, have all the kids on this planet earth, they're the closest ones to actually say, "Oh, yeah, I'm like that kid from that movie, you know, yeah." And watching that movie is taking on an entirely different experience now. Before it was kind of just, "Oh, it was a movie that I did now. It's something I show my kids." And it's a different animal now. - It's really cool. - I appreciate it differently. - Yeah. - It's such a classic holiday movie. Do they like watching it during the holidays? - They absolutely love it, yeah. - And they still don't know what's you? They still don't know what's me. - That's crazy. - It's crazy. - Well, I mean, it has been 35 years. - Yeah, no, I know, but I'm just like, that's so wild. - Yeah, no, I guess it's going to dawn on them. It's gonna dawn on them and it's gonna be like, yeah. - Like a lot of other parents I showed my kids, they've all seen it a zillion times in love. - Well, they have good taste, yes or no? - Yeah, it's been a staple. Actually, you know, it's funny. I made a video on, I took a photograph of my son from a few weeks ago and I put it on an AI app and I gave the prompt to have somebody hand him a golf club and then he does a golf, does a swing. So he did it, these apps are incredible. So he does this AI-generated video. And I show it to him and he's like, yeah, I remember that. And I go, you never did that. - Yeah, you lied. - I did, look at that. Yeah, he's five and he's like, no, I did that. I'm like, no, you did it, that's, you know. - He said, but I just saw it, it clearly, it's me. - It clearly is me. Anyway, well, McCauley Culkin, you first of all, Zootopia 2, you and Jason, Jason, so in love with your character. - Oh my God, yeah, incredible work. - Oh yeah, thanks to you two, man. You know, yeah, can't wait to meet you on the carpet. - And then the next season of Fall Out as well, you can be seen there as well. And McCauley, thank you for joining us, man. You're just an absolute legend. - Well, thanks. - Thanks a lot, man. - Yeah, it was such a joy. Such a joy to have you. - Yeah, great to have you, pal. - Yeah, the great McCauley Culkin. Thank you so much, dude. - Thanks a lot, guys. - Bye, buddy. - See you later. - Bye, cheers. - Bye, tutels. - Fantastic, I love learning-- - Oh my God. - I love learning about all that stuff. Like, you want to ask him about the home alone, but you're like, can I? You shouldn't die, but then you're like, I want to know. So it's pretty, that's so wild as kids don't know it's him. That is really funny. - I know, nuts is that. - That's going to be, they're going to be like, wait a minute. Well, I want to, he needs to film that moment when they're like, wait a minute, that's you. But really cool. And like, I like how you said, Jay, about how he's kind of just down to Earth figured it out, kind of parented himself through the whole thing and came out great. - It feels very comfortable with himself and where he's at. - Yeah, exactly. And he's got that magic sort of indifference, right? About work and success, and all that stuff. - Magic, or is it sexy? - It might be sexy. Could be a little magic. - It's probably just keep him working the rest of his life 'cause he's just got that, you know. - He's got a healthy. - You know, the thing about the sexy indifference is it's kind of naughty. - It is kind of naughty. - It is kind of dirty. (all laughing) - Hey, do you know what Jesse Eisenberg gave him was? Can he do a stranger? - Well, is it worth Taylor? Let's get Taylor and the gals in here. Can we get you an invite? - No way, they would love to. - I mean, we'd love to see-- - Are they still sleeping? - Let me see. - Oh, yeah. - Or are you just going to intercom? How long does it take to get for one end of your house to the other or while, right? Do you have golf carts, series of golf carts? - Oh, Paul and Sean's doing so well. - I don't know, he's doing so well. - Come on. - He's really doing it. - Okay, so sorry about being late again. - Well, listen, Sean, I'm glad you mentioned that. Do you have a second here? 'Cause well, I'd love to talk to you about it. Things have been a little sloppy. - Yeah. - I think you've been out of your, you know, and I'm glad that I'm glad that the audience is not listening to this, because it will, do you wanna start? - Yeah, I just said, we, let me read the thing I wrote. Sean, we love you and we feel like we are losing you. 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