Lubing Up My Friend

[music] Get up and move your body Shake your hands about David's coming in with the sunshine And he's going to scream and shout Everybody move You know it's time to roll It's the views podcast And David's ready to go What's up guys? We're going back to views Guys, it's another views podcast The day after the Mac Gala And Jason just got back from New York too Coincidence? I think not Why didn't even know Mac Gala was going on? Damn it Really? I should have stayed. I got to get my head out of my ass Did they invite you? I don't think so. My email is quite a mess though It could have been in there with all the spam Do you think that's how they invite you to the Mac Gala's through email? I mean, I don't have my number I wonder who the most famous person on earth is That has the least amount of representation Do you know what I mean? That's easy Bill Murray, no agent Why? Bill Murray, no agent So if you want to call, if you want Bill Murray to do your movie Like literally like Wes Anderson When he wants Bill Murray, he has to call a phone number And it's an old, old-timey boy smell And it's like, hi, this is Bill, leave a message Wait, does he have a, does Bill Murray have his cell phone? No No, he doesn't have his cell phone No cell phone So, okay, explain this to me, Bill Murray, the guy from Groundhog Day Yeah Okay, still operates in this way Yes, yes, yes And he has no agent No agent Why does he have no agent? He doesn't believe in it, he doesn't want to participate in that He just doesn't understand why you would possibly need to give 20% to somebody I mean, I'm, I'm pontificating here, but yeah I mean, I think he does pay like a lawyer and stuff But even the best directors, like the big ones They call him directly They don't call him directly Okay, they call him answering service Okay, but then who, who's picking this up? Because like, that's the point of an agent, right? Like, I don't know, I don't know how old you are But did your mom ever have that? It's like, hi, it's the Dobericks, leave a message I understand that, but like If the Dobericks were super popular Yeah Who would be coming through the messages And you can just have You're gonna tell me Bill Murray's, because, okay, listen When you're even an influencer Right? Like, you get Thousands of in-bounds Yeah Whatever, a week, a month, whatever Whatever the situation could be a day If you're a really big influencer So like, who's coming through that? You tell me Bill Murray sits through A hundred voice messages And here's pitches from people like Jonah Well, it's not all the way up to Wes Anderson It's not like Instagram, no one has the number Okay, very true You have the number, Sophia Coppola has the number Wes Anderson has the number, Quentin Tarantino has the number here And then if someone wants to get a hold of Bill Murray It's probably just like a friend through a friend, right? Like, doesn't he know Bill Murray? No, you'd have to go through this voicemail This is a famous story that I've heard for years That I've read in magazines about Bill Murray You have to go through this voicemail And then he calls you back on like a private number Yeah, if he likes the script Fucking insane Does he still work? Yeah, yeah, yeah He still works, I mean He's the guy that has, that is like funny when you meet him Right? Yeah, he's the guy that's like, well like, pop Show up that you're wetting Have like, make everybody go crazy for like an hour And then just disappear Yeah, and then he's also the guy that Like someone was like peeing next to him And he's like, are you Bill Murray? He's like, yes, but no one will ever believe you Yes, yes Something like that He's like one of those guys Yeah And then he has cards too Instead of autographs, he like Has a card that says you just met Bill Murray Or congratulations Oh, does he? I don't know That's funny I think that's him too Is he a nice guy or is he a mean guy? Like, what's his perception? Obviously we can't speak on him in reality We can't speak on him, we don't know him I mean, obviously I don't know I have no idea, I've heard stories that he can be mean Right, right, okay And I've heard stories that he's well wonderful And just like all of us I mean, you can be mean, I can be mean I don't think I've ever been mean I was mean yesterday When I got off I had such a little tizzy yesterday Well, first of all, I wish we did have the video podcast Just for this moment Jason came in with like a really scary beard And the way Jason dresses already is like You know, it's already like on the brink of like Serial killer Is this man allowed in my home? And today, it's like another Tonight's I mean any home No, I'm not using my home from saying like Any home Yeah, you look a murderer Really? For sure Yeah No, it looks like you just came from bearing a body up the hill or something Yeah, I mean, I started this beard And then I was like And we went to wide show in New York And I was like, I got a shave tonight before we go to the show And it means like, no, I really like it It looks really sexy I love your excuse for not I'm like, I'm like So what's the beard situation And Jason was like, well I wanted to shave it, but then I forgot And now it's, you know, now it's gone to the point Where it's gonna be really difficult to shave So I don't know anymore Which is like, what? Have you ever had it like now? Now it's like, I'm gonna have to take First, I'm gonna have to take scissors to it Then I gotta, then I gotta take a razor to it Might take two razors It's like, it's gonna take some time Yeah, I see Well, remember what I just grew out my beard for Coach Hala I remember That was my first time shit And I used a razor to shave it Yeah And I heard incredibly Yeah, hair was about Maybe a half an inch long And it was like, really, really, really Fucking intense Yeah, shaving's the worst Yeah, yeah I mean, there's a lot of Things that are worst No, nothing Like genocide No, there's nothing worse than shaving Yeah But it's pretty bad Would you rather have a really Really, really big beard Or have to go through Like, let's say, labor Oh, labor Labor, for sure That's okay Just wanna make sure we're abundantly clear here Hey, you ever have, they're saying men can have a baby soon Dude, you've been preaching this on the podcast For a couple seasons here And you do know that, right? It's like, I don't know It's like a common thing, you say Have you heard about the string theory? Uh, yes Yes Can you explain it to me? Can you explain it to me? Oh, wait, really? Yeah, but I mean, I can't, I can't process it He's told me about it And he studied it in school But what is it again? Oh, I thought you were going to tell me Need to know what it's basically, uh, fuck The string theory is a theoretical, theoretical framework In theoretical physics that tries to explain all fundamental forces And particles in a single unified way Okay, sorry, that was a bunch of fucking mumbo jumbo The core idea is the universe is made of incredibly small One-dimensional strings These strings can vibrate in different ways Each vibration corresponds to a different particle Okay, it's still not really explaining it to me Let's keep trying In simple terms, strings equal fundamental building blocks Vibrations equal different particles Music equals the physical universe God, what does this mean? Can you explain it to me in a way? What does this have to do with like people Meeting each other and things like that? I thought that's what string theory was, right? Wasn't it about people meeting each other? I thought it was, you were talking about string cheese It's about the deepest physical building blocks of reality Way, way below the level of everyday life It doesn't explain why people meet fall in love Or run into each other at aeroan Why is my chat GPT being such a fucking asshole to me? Why did it just say that? But that's the most negative thing about it It doesn't explain why people meet fall in love Or run into each other at aeroan He's trying to put it into terms that you could understand That's like, that literally just straight-up attack me The honest breakdown at a human level People meet because of proximity, timing, social networks, choices, and randomness Things like where you live, who your friends are, what you do for those domain Do you think, Jay? Do you think that there's multiple loves of your life out there? Do you think you could fall in love with multiple people? Or there's one person for you? Because it's really difficult for you to answer because Well, actually, it shouldn't be because you're in your second relationship And at one point, you did love your first So, do you think. If I'm being honest, like, I'm sure there's multiple people out there for everybody Do you think there's a soulmate? Do you think there's one that like. No, I'm too practical for that Really? Yeah, that's like, you know, I found somebody who's the perfect match for me But I don't. I can't say that like. I don't believe in that I think the most negative, like, saying that I see Especially, it's usually when guys or girls date a hot celebrity couple I'll see this Yeah No, actually, I see this a lot It'll be like, it's. She's not yours, it's just your turn Oh And I think that's like the most disgusting Ew Like, just Ew Sad way of looking at that It's terrible I don't even think people meet in a disgusting way Like taking turns, I don't. It's like just. It just is a very terrible way of looking at something Celebrity's tough too, 'cause it's. No, I don't even think it's celebrity I think it's just like people that have a very pessimistic outlook on love Right But I just like, yeah, that's all gonna fade I don't know But it is interesting when two celebrities find each other Because it does make sense I don't. It does make sense, 'cause it's like, oh, they can like understand I get what two celebrities. Kylie and Timothy - Kylie and Timothy - Right I totally get that Of course, who else could. They could understand each other They're living in a different world Who are those two rock stars that were so powerful That they weren't even gay, they just started fucking fucking each other It was like Mick Jagger and Bowie Yes A power gay And then I guess you are gay if you're fucking each other, right? It's like the craziest way They were just like. They weren't gay though No, they were just. There's just rock stars They were just lit Yes No, but um. Who, um. Have you ever seen that TikTok? It's so funny, it's this guy in Hawaii Yeah He goes around and he goes and it's. He takes a picture of a person And he shows us the next person, he goes Is this person gay or straight And then the person, 99% of the time, the guy goes Oh, he's gay And the guy goes like, why would you say that? It's like, well, you could just. tell by the way, he's standing. And then he goes, "Are you gay or straight?" And then he goes, "Oh, I'm straight." He's like, "Would you think people would agree?" Yeah, for sure. And it keeps going, and everyone calls each other gay. It's actually a very, very interesting, like-- - I have seen that. - It's a very interesting, I don't know what it means, I don't know what the meaning behind it, but like psychologically, I think it's really interesting. They're like, "All guys." 'Cause yeah, honestly, I look at all those pictures, and all of them look gay. - What does that even mean? Why am I even saying that, I don't even know. - You just look at guys, you're just calling them gay to push the gay off you. - Oh, I don't care, like if someone took a picture of me, like for sure, the gay. If somebody saw me in motion, like walking from the back, they'd be like, "Super gay." If somebody talked to me for about two hours, they'd be like, "This gay is kind of a mess." - In fact, most people call me gay. - In fact, I am gay, this is the way, no, I take pride in my feminine side. I don't believe in, I actually don't believe in, I don't believe in a lot. All I believe in is DMT. Anyway, where were we right before I pivoted? - We were talking about Bill Murray. - No, dude, that's the beginning of the podcast. That's way too many things. - Jeff Bezos. - We were at String Theory. - Oh, love. - Finding love. - String cheese. - And taking turns. So, do you, like, in the afterlife, what do you think? This is what kind of freaks me out of it. - There's no afterlife. - Okay, you're still on that channel? - Yeah, I'm still on it. - Where do you go? - He's just done, it's over. - The board you go, Jay. - You don't, you're over. - You don't? - There's no, there's no way to go. - I don't know why you do that. - You turn the TV off. Where's the TV signal? It's gone. - I actually don't think that's true. - I know, we've talked about this, and you know, I don't know for sure, but. - Yeah. - I mean, I don't know, what do you think? - What do you want to happen? I think honestly, I'd love to go to heaven. - Okay, honestly, I think that's the way you should be looking at things. I don't think you should question them. I think you should just, maybe better for my mental health if I did believe that. - For sure, be better for your mental health. - I had a crazy thought the other day, which was I had a really deep thought driving back from New York with my mom. - Oh, oh, remind me. Celebrity's cooking up with each other. That's what we were talking about. - Okay, go, go, go. I'll remember mine. - Are you sure you'll remember yours? - No, I'll remember one. - I'm getting used to cutting you off a lot. So I feel like I'd rather let you finish your story. - I'll tell it quickly. - But you know what, let me say mine. (laughing) - I don't know, come on. - Here we go, we'll say it at the same time. (laughing) No, go ahead. - No, no, no, I'll remember mine. - Mine might be dumb, but. - For sure, it's gonna be dumb, but we have to. There's one for you, for five for me, you know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got two. - So let's knock yourself. - Yeah, we got it. No stone left on turn. So I'm driving back from New York. I went, took my mom to see me, why it play at Mercury Lounge. It was the greatest weekend ever. - Why it? - Why my son? - Okay. - Just because like, you know when you like, make somebody else happy. I mean, I, it's just like the best. You do it all the time. - Sure. - When you give people something. - Yeah, okay. - You have something, like, it's great feeling. - Yeah, if I'm, yeah. - We flew to Boston. We drove her down to New York. She was just having the best time. You know, we're stopping. She's getting a diaco. She's getting some chips. - She's talking a lot, huh? - Oh. - She was probably-- - Oh my god, she's talking to us today. She does this thing where we're fucking. You, I've got the GPS, right? And the GPS is good. Like, it works. - Works great. - Yeah, yeah. - But she's in the back seat, fucking with her own GPS. Telling me what the GPS social be like, 27 miles. 26 miles. Exit four. - Oh, in no way she counts down. - Yeah, she'll exit four. And then my GPS will go exit four. And it's like, stop. Stop fucking back seat driving. - Yeah, yeah. - Then-- - I mean, I can't, to be fair. Like how are, I can't imagine being an old person, and then all of a sudden like GPS is just like-- - Yeah. - Taking your job-- - It's bombed on you. Yeah, and it's taken everything that you've ever done in the passenger seat of a car. Like, let her have her own old ways, you know? - That's true, yeah. - Ways, no pun intended. - She, that's what she was on. It was not passenger back in the day. It was co-capt in. - Yeah. - And she's lost her position. - Yeah, she did, yeah. - Okay, go. - Then the other thing she did, we're in the hotel, and we're getting the car to leave, and I got my backpack on, and I got two laptops in my backpack, my young LA backpack that you gave me, which is great. It fits two laptops, like in the side pocket. So we're in the hotel, and she's like, ah, let me, she starts messing with the zippers, so that the young LA backpack has so many fucking zippers on it. Which is great. She's like, let me fix this, let me fix that. She fucking undoes-- - Two laptops. - The laptops. So I get to the parking switch, I have to walk a block. Fuck two laptops, come crashing out. - Oh shit. - She fucking unzipped it. - Onto the concrete. - Onto the concrete. - And you slapped her, I hope. - Slapped her up. But the thought that I had, and then we'll get back to you. I had such a good time, and I was driving back from New York to Boston, and I thought, oh my God, I've been living my whole life, like, too afraid to have a good time for fear that it'll all be taken away. - Too fear of-- - Like, I won't give over to life is so awesome, because I have this fear, it'll be taken away. - It's the same way of people are scared to fall in love, 'cause they don't get-- - Yeah. - But if I sit there and go like, it was okay. It was like, it was fine, but it fucking, there was a bunch of shit wrong. - You're like managing expectations. - Yes. - In case something, in case it doesn't go right. - Yeah, that was pretty good. - Preparing for the worst. - What's that? - You're preparing for the worst, mentally. - Yeah, and it's a terrible way to live. - Yeah, that is a really interesting way to live. I don't think I'd live that way. - You don't? - No, I'm trying to, 'cause the reason I said it like that is because I'm trying to convince myself that I don't live that way. But I see similarities in what you're saying, and like, the way I look at things. - Right. - I think it is really important. And I've become also that type of person that like, I don't wanna start liking a person, and then like potentially have them not like me back. It's like the worst. - Oh yeah. - That's the worst. - But. - There's no but. - No, it could be. - You get to a place in your life where you're like, you could just, you're okay with just putting it out there, and it's like, oh yeah, it's not. I guess I got to a place where I was like, yeah, they don't like me. That's not anything to say about me. It's like with Naveen, it was like, oh by the time I got to Naveen, I was like, yeah, this will never work, but she wants, if she likes me, then great. - Yeah, you talk a big game about that though, but like God forbid, if there was ever a day where Naveen is no longer around, you will be in shambles. - No, no, no. - No way you're gonna be like, I accepted it, and I had a good time while I lasted. - That's what I'll say. - No way. - That's how evolved I am in terms of relationships, 'cause I have had my heart broken. I think that is actually the exact thing that you epiphanyed about with your mom. - Maybe. - Right? - Yeah, maybe. - So I think you're having a hard time maybe fully loving Naveen as much as you should. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe, yeah, well done. - I feel like maybe you just like, and also-- - So therapy. - Well, you do this a lot. You like, I think you verbalize a lot of things, but I don't think you actualize it. Like I think I make fun of you for this all the time. Like we'll be in Santa Barbara. We'll sit down for 30 minutes at the beach, and you'll just be like, isn't this amazing? Isn't this amazing? Or you'll be on my couch, you'll plop down on the second you feel the cloud couch, you're like, is it this just so great? I could be here all day. And I know you don't mean that. I know you're just saying that because you're just trying to convince yourself that that's what you're supposed to be feeling. But really, in your head, you're like, I have to be out of here in 20 minutes. I have to go do the next thing. - This is perfect. - So it is, it's really impressive. - It's true. - It's even, it's the thing that I supposed to press them about you. And I've been on the other side of this 'cause so when we come to the podcast, like 85% of the time I'm really pouty and I don't wanna do the podcast. And Jason has to sit here and like, kind of just like-- - I wait you out. - Yeah, wait me out, which I feel really bad. But like I do this, like I used to do this for a living with my friends. It's kind of interesting to be on the other side of it. - Wait a minute, wait a minute. - Like when we were vlogging. - Oh, you had to wait out. - Yeah. - Zane or Heath. - Zane, yeah. - Everybody, yeah, yeah, you did do that. - That was-- - That was really funny. - Like that was, I mean that was what-- - But I learned that from you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I learned that from you, 'cause I remember when we started to vlog, I'd be like, well the fuck aren't we doing this? And you'd be like, hang on, hang on Jay. Hang on, hang on Jay. Just chill out, it's gonna happen. Just gotta wait. Gotta wait a little bit. Get people ready, get them, let them have a couple drinks or whatever. Like it's, let's say, let's make-- - Everybody makes rest. - Everybody makes stuff differently. Like ultimately, ultimately everyone wants to make videos. Everyone wants, like in a friend group. Everyone wants to vlog or everyone wants to pod or whatever. But everyone has, everyone warms up in a different way. - Yeah, yeah. - Like you don't need a warm-up. - No. - You come in, big nick, does not need a warm-up. - No. - Comes in full-blasting. (laughs) And that would scare somebody like a, sometimes even a Scott, who I think is more of in between you and Zane. Zane is the biggest, like needs a warm-up. - Yeah. - Zane, I came up with a tactic to film Zane. When we were in India, were you there? - No. - I told, Zane, you, okay so we've been filming a lot the way we film videos now is like, [BLANK_AUDIO] When we're traveling, we'll all meet in the lobby of the hotel early in the morning, and the day will start. And the filmer will use the videographer, we'll pull the camera out. - Yeah. - It can start recording me. And every time he starts recording Zane, Zane's like, "Please get that out of my fucking face." 'Cause it's too early for Zane. But Zane loves filming. - Right. - So what I've told the videographers is like, "Just film me." - Yeah. - And then when Zane says something funny, don't panty him, and it works every single time. Yes. And then Zane says something funny, and I'm like, "Don't panty him." And then having to say something funny one more time, and don't panty him again, and wait till he jumps in front of the camera himself. - Wow. - And then he's ready. It's really interesting. It's like catching a wild animal. - It's really, really funny. 'Cause then Zane-- - Awesome. - Zane really gets into it. Zane wants to do it at that point. And to be fair, it's not me tricking Zane. It's also Zane just getting comfortable. Like that is like, you know? It's like whenever he's ready. - Yeah. - Like I'm filming my video. There's no reason I should be putting the pressure on Zane. - Yes, yes, yes. - So it's like whenever he wants to step into my video and start like having fun, that is the way to go about it. And that's something that's taken me years of experience to figure out. - Wow. - That's Jedi level. - Yeah, I think that is Jedi level vlogging, for sure. - Wow. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a really interesting thing. - That's something I think people probably can't, I don't even think about it. - No, that's an unfathomable like, that's not-- - Looping up your friend. - That's how you're looping up your friend. That should be the title of it's podcast. - Wait, celebrities and what? - So the thing I had you remember for me? - Yeah. - We were just talking about celebrities and the dating and I just find it so bizarre. One, how quickly celebrities date each other. And like hop into things. - Why not? - Why not? I guess I kinda get that. I think the way I look at it is not why not. I look at it like, damn, it sucks. Like they're having fun, but it's not really like, it can't be that real. 'Cause it's happening so quickly. Like, well, you were in a public relationship and it was real. - Super real, Jay. And it's been how many years since I've had a real one. That's butter. - Doesn't matter the time you spent together was real? - No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying celebrities happy in and out of relationships. - Okay, so you're saying a celebrity jumps in with you. - This also applies to like anybody else. Just like somebody going from relationship to relationship to relationship. I find that really bizarre. - What are you saying? - Like a serial data as opposed to like somebody like waiting to the right. Like I don't start dating a human being 'til I have said in my head, I could see me marrying you. - Oh really? - For sure. I don't just date someone just to like figure it out. 'Cause then I'd be dating the whole fucking world. I'd just be dating everybody I see. Like that's just like no way of going out. Like I'll start dating even the first relationship I had. Like I, we didn't start dating till I was like, oh yeah, I think I'm gonna marry this person. - Right. - And that's what I was like. We should definitely be boyfriend and girlfriend. Like that is the step before marriage. - I could see that. I could also see relationships that are just like, maybe marriage isn't the goal. And you're just like, I like this person. - Right. I think marriage is the goal for me. And I think not, I think this kind of goes back to what you were saying or like your fears or like this is why I was drawing the comparison with our fears is because like in terms of dating. - Yeah. - I don't want to date someone that I'm not like fully certain about. - Yeah. - I want to just date someone for like some temporary fun and then have and then have me be the heartbroken or something at the end of it. Like I want at least on my end go into it with full confidence that like I'm seeing this to the end. And I'm like. - Aren't you, aren't you maybe missing out on experiences and learning about yourself and learning about relationships? - Yeah, probably, yeah. - For sure. For sure there's like, and also, and also not only that, but like am I missing out on actually like the love of my life 'cause I'm too scared to like try. For sure. But that's just like, this is how I roll, you know? - Just a choice you make. - That's just how I be. A vlog was supposed to go up today. - Hmm. - And we haven't gone around to it yet. So I think it will be up tomorrow. Every time I say shit like that, it doesn't go up till the next day. - It's not that you haven't gone around to it. - It's not done. - Oh, it's not done? - Yeah. - No, yeah, I flew back from Miami early. - I made it sound like, you know, you were playing pickleball. - No, no, no. It's really tough. We got a new editor, we have an editor. And I'm still heavily involved. I am arguably sitting there more than when I was editing. Because now I have no idea. - On my video, can you believe it, Jay? - What do you mean? - I'm the one having to sit there on my video. - No, I'm just saying like, no, I'm saying I'm sitting there longer than if I was editing. - Oh, oh, oh. - Because now we're on a different program. The clips are harder to edit. Because then we're using mics and different cameras. I'm really bad at touching the program. Like I don't know my way around it, so I'm not fast. And giving the editor notes is something I am so unskilled at. Like I'm so bad at it. - That's a skill. - Yeah, it's definitely a skill. And like on iMovie, when I was editing on iMovie, and I wanted to rearrange a clip. And I want to say, what happened to this clip when before here? Or this song starts here. It takes, I'm not getting you three seconds to make that adjustment. But for an editor, like on a bigger program where you have to like change, 'cause like you have to change what your cursor does. So you have to click a different button to make your cursor pull the clip. You have to click a different button to have your cursor pull the audio. So it's not just like one cursor, the pointer finger does everything. You have to go into settings and change the point. - Oh my god. - It's a whole bitch. So like a very little thing that takes 30 seconds. - Yeah. - Like, not 30 seconds, 15 seconds. - Sure. - When it usually would take me a second. - Yeah. - And like, and those 15 seconds add up to hours on hours on hours. - Yeah. - Where I'm sitting here longer than I have ever been sitting. - Why don't you go back to iMovie? - 'Cause it can't really, - I don't want to edit. - 'Cause I don't want to edit. That was the whole thing of this new series. - And it's getting tough, 'cause I'm one video ahead right now. There's a video I'm posting on Wednesday. - Yeah. - That's been shot. And then we have another video where we just went to Miami. That's, or on, yeah. And that's going to be shot. Or that's going to be posted next week. - Yeah. - And then I'm ahead by no videos. - Yeah. - So like, and it's getting to the point where I'm sitting in this at a room longer and longer and not being able to shoot the next video. So I'm really scared that about week five or six. - Yeah. - This whole thing is gonna come imploding unless we figure out how to do this properly where I'm completely hands off. - You're a second editor editing the video that's two weeks from now. - We have three, four editors, like looking at it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. Three, four editors in no video done. - But the most frustrating part is, so we sent a good example as we went to a dinner for Celsius. - Yeah. - Shot for about an hour and a half. Modally funny stuff, nothing crazy. We sent it to three different editors and all three editors sent us back 20 minute takes with completely different things in it. - Oh wow. - It's really fucking strange. It's really fucking strange. And we'll watch one editor and Ferris and I will be like, where the fuck is everything? - Right. - And then we'll watch the next and we'll be like, wait, that last editor had no idea what he was doing. This guy has so much other stuff. And then he'll watch the new guy and we'll be like, wait a minute, the last guy didn't know what he was doing. This guy has the better stuff, but then he does, he's missing some stuff that the first guy has. And then you're just like, there is no such thing as the perfect editor. Because the perfect editor is literally yourself. And I've been saying this for a long, it's just unfortunate that I don't love doing any more. - Well, you'll have to come in to a crossroads that either you're-- - Yeah, I got to figure something out. I don't know, I really do enjoy filming the videos. - That's good. - I like filming the videos. I just really hate fucking sitting down. Well, the reason I wanted to stop editing is 'cause when people will come over and film videos with me and I'll watch it online, I get so excited. Almost like a, like a, like, what's a software than a narcissistic way of looking at it? Like I get excited to see myself in other people's videos. - Sure. - Especially when it's edited good. I'm like, I wanna watch myself. - Yeah. - And that's what I was-- - I like that too. - You like that too. - Of course. - Right, okay, okay. So like, if I do a collab with somebody and they're doing all the editing, I'm like, oh, I want a Daniel Mac. I did a little thing with Daniel Mac. - Yeah, I'm so excited to see this. - I'm like, I can't wait to see what he did. And usually you like it, right? - Of course. 'Cause I think you were like, your mind isn't, there's nothing tied to it. You're kind of just like, whatever comes out of it comes out of it. - I was funny in this moment. - Yeah. - Cool. - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, that was funny, I did that. - And that's why I wanted to stop editing 'cause I love that feeling so much that I'm like, can somebody edit for me? - Yeah. - And like, can I just see it and get a surprise like it's Christmas morning and a new video has been posted about me and I get to like watch what I did. - Yeah, but that's your, that's like-- - But unfortunately when it's your own video, you're thinking of it completely differently. And you're like, well, where's this part? Where's this part? Where's this part? Where the part is? - But that's your greatest talent is editing. And I'm like, you're like so gifted at it. That was what made the videos. If somebody asked me, oh, why is David's video so good, I always say, oh, it's editing. It's his editing. That's the only, you were able to, you know, do something that no one else can do. So I don't know why you want to just run away from your-- - Hey, I want to be more than it or I want to be a star. - You are a star, you have 20 million subscribers. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - Please don't. - Isn't it funny how subscribers don't mean anything anymore? - Followers don't. - Followers, yeah. - YouTube subscribers, I think still do. 'Cause it's not like my YouTube videos, my YouTube videos don't, like they actually, they do fully matter subscribers. 'Cause my videos don't go to like a random feed. For your followers, 50% like, it really is random people I feel like. - So for, but I looked at this stat on Instagram last night and it was like someone was asking for analytics and I was like, oh, it said 90% of my Instagram. - Viewers are from random people. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, that's why followers don't matter. - Well, only 10% of my followers see what I post. - But that's like, but that's like. - Isn't that fucked? - It isn't, it isn't. - Tell me, explain it to me. - I think it's, why does YouTube carry that value and Instagram doesn't? In other words, like. - 'Cause I think like the YouTube social, like it's like, it's like, it's like not us, it's not a platform, it's a different kind of platform. - Okay. - I think it's like turning on your TV. Like you want like some organization. I think, I think the way TikTok has developed and Instagram has developed is that the more random greatness that there is on a feed, the longer you're there. Do you know what I mean? - The more random, great. - Like the more random funny videos you find, the longer you're gonna spend on the app. - I see, on Instagram. - Yeah, and I feel like YouTube is different 'cause you're like coming in for these long videos from these creators that you already, like that you want to watch. - Oh, right. - I feel like the system of keeping you there is a little bit different on YouTube. - I see. - So I don't know, I can be completely wrong. But YouTube also has shorts that works in the same way. - Right. - But yeah, no, no, followers don't matter. Which is actually kind of a nice thing. - If you started a new channel right now, what kind of views do you think you would get? - Like a brand new YouTube channel. - Yeah. - I was talking to someone over the weekend and they were like, you should just start a new channel and I was like, oh. - Like anonymously? - No, no, no, just like a new channel. - Oh, like David Dobrik does something else. - Yeah. - Oh, probably like a million of video. - Just like right away. - If I linked it for my main. - Or are you saying? - No, no, no, no link. - Do you think that it's better to start a new channel? - I think depending on what you do, yeah, 'cause I think you'll like, I think it's just like the TikTok effect. It's like, it does snowball. - But why, it's way the algorithm to me. Like, if somebody's out there and they're like, hey, I have this YouTube channel and-- - Well, if you post and you have 10 followers or 10 subscribers, right? - And all 10 watch it, the video does better. - Yeah. - In quotes. - Yeah. - Algorithmically. - Yeah, if like, if seven other people really liked it, then the algorithm's gonna be like, you know what, I'm gonna feed it to another 20. - Got it. - And if out of those 20, majority liked it, algorithm's gonna go, I'm gonna keep going. - Oh, fine. - I'm gonna keep sharing this bitch. And I think your chances of closer retention to your total number of subscribers or whatever will be that much better on a new channel. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So I think there is some world where that would be better. I don't know. Hey, Wyatt opened for Chris Martin's son, Saturday. - Oh yeah, how'd that go? - Fuck it, amazing. - Really? - Unbelievable. - Was Chris Martin there? - No. - Damn. - No, but it was really cool. Chris Martin's son has a band's great. It's called People I've Met. And Wyatt's band's called Newtie. And Wyatt went on before. And it was just, it was just crazy. - Wait, wait, wait, Wyatt's band is called What? - Newtie. - What the fuck happened to Great Big Cow? - Well, they're on hiatus. Two of the guys don't live in New York. So he started a new band with one of the guys from Great Big Cow. It was called Newtie. - Yeah. - Oh, I liked that. - It was really good. - Wow. - And it was just like, and then after on Sunday, I was like, he was like, "Hey, did you know "that was the seventh time I played Mercury Lounge?" And I was like, "Oh!" Like, wow. Okay, so you. - Does he get paid? - Yeah. - And what does he do after? Does he go like, have sex with like. - Yeah, yeah. - Like a bunch of people? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. You wanna say a video? - No, look at how like, does he do like the Rockstar? Like does he go? - Yeah. - He doesn't drink, right? He still hang out like in like a lounge, like where everyone's drinking, and he's sort of like, and I was like, "Why it? "Good show!" Like, is that still kind of the vibe? - It was like that, but it was more like, way it's more about like, seeing other bands. He's like kind of musically, musically, he's just really into bands. So he's like, he wanted to see the next band. - Oh, so he says it to watch the show? - Yeah, he's just really into that. And then, but there were lots like, there were tons of kids there from college and met all his friends. And it was just so cool. It was just so cool to like, to see him do it. I was like, what? - Do you think you're gonna get your money back on all the education he's spent on him? - Yeah. I don't think I'll get the money back, but he'll get the money back. - Really? - I think he's gonna do it. I think he's gonna make it. - Would it be a Rockstar? - Would you see like a little somber route for him? - What? Oh, somber? Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I mean, I think he'll be, I know he'll work in music. And I think he'll be a Rockstar. Yeah, if you, if I showed you the videos, you'd be like, oh, wow. Like it's actually happening. It's crazy, it's crazy to watch it happen. And it's crazy because to watch somebody that's like born within her drive. Like I've known so many people in my whole life, David. I had a friend who was so funny growing up. He was so funny, his name was Tofer. And when I started to do like YouTube and stuff, I was like, I was like, you gotta come to YouTube with me. Or I started to do like Vine even. And I remember one day we tried. And he was just like, I can't do this. And I was like, oh. - 'Cause he just didn't want to? - Yeah, he just didn't want to. But I mean, just like having inner drive is just like, it's such a gift. - And why it has it? - And he has it. I mean, he is fucking pounding the pavement. He's like booking shows, he's talking to people. He's fucking, he got in trouble at school for spray painting his band, like stencil, like a band stencil. - Oh, that is sick. - He had to go in front of the court. (laughs) Does he, does he stay, like does he tell you verbally what he wants to be? - Yeah. And it's like all planned out. - Like he wants to be a rock star? - He just wanna be, and he doesn't say like, I wanna be a rock star. But he's like, I wanna make music and put out albums. - Okay. So, do you think he cares like what level of like, stardom he reaches? He doesn't care. - No, no, I don't think he's like that. - He just wants to be able to do it full time. - Yeah. - I love that. - Yeah, it's fucking awesome. It's so crazy to watch. It's crazy. What I think is crazy is when people just want to be famous. - Yeah. - I think that's insane. Who would you say that is? Like, YouTubers, reality show people like that? I don't know, but I'll see TikTok bios of people be born to be famous or I wanna be famous next or the next person to be famous. I just think it's so strange. It's like, what is that? First of all, that word is so gross, yeah. I think it's also double gross because like, it's like when you're an influencer, you're hit with that word a lot because people are like, people A will use it to like mock you or like, if you're like in school, you're famous or people will ask you that question like, what's it like to be famous? And then you'll have to deflect and you'll be like, oh, it's not the right word to use. You don't wanna see like a fucking stuck up snob on the internet. And you'd be like, well, what it's like to be famous is actually, you know, it's like, well, no, you're an influencer. I think that word is just like so icky. - I don't think people, I don't think people. - Unless you are famous. - Right, right, right. - But I think it's so strange when people use it without any sort of, like I think if you wanna be a pop star. - Irony? - No, like if you wanna be a pop star. - Yeah. - Saying I wanna be a successful musician, I think is just the way to phrase it. That's the way to say it. Where I wanna be a successful actor. I know it's like, it's almost saying the same thing. And famous usually means that you've done a good job most of the time. It means you're like really good at your craft. I just think it's like such an icky word for like being at the top of your level. Like I think there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a, I said, why? - That's the other thing. - I saw this guy. He was, he was on a, this is your generation. I saw this guy, he was on like a reality show. He was on like a competition reality show. And he like bombed his set on the competition reality show. It's a stand-up show. - Yeah. - And I saw the TikTok the next day. And he's on TikTok saying like, did I bomb my set last night? Yeah. Will I be back? - Yeah. - And I was like, wow. I was like, what hubris? Like if that were me and I bombed the set on Netflix, I fucking go away for a while. You know what I mean? - That's really good. - Like I wouldn't jump on TikTok when I don't think you would. - No, I would. I'd be, I'd be crushed. But I just think that's like that generation now. It's like, just fucking keep going. Like, hey man, but fucking bang my head. I guess while until it happens. - Yeah, yeah. - You know, it's just like, I guess there's some value in that. So like, hey, you can't knock me down. - 100%. - The number one person I think about that, I think of you can't knock me down. - Yeah. - Who is who, who do you think? - Can't knock me down. - In the social media world. I think of Logan Paul. - Yeah, I was gonna say that. - Yeah, yeah. I think he's just like the most like, I think when I met him too, he's just like, and not in a bad way. Not just like, like, I don't care what the fuck up shit I do. It's, he's very much like, yeah, I'm just gonna keep going. I'm gonna keep going. - Yeah. - It's very, very crazy. I'm always like, damn, I wish I even had an ounce of that. I'd be fucking, I'd be fucking-- - Impenetrable. - Yeah, so it's a really interesting quality to have. - Do you have like bad thoughts during the day? - Yeah, I can only call myself. - No, not like that. I mean, that's another conversation. I guess we should probably focus on that. But no, do you have like negative thoughts? Do you like negative thoughts in? Like, I'll wake up and I'll be like, I started having negative thoughts that I had about myself. And then I had, I was in my car like, I like, everything's good, everything's good. Be positive, be positive. - Yeah. - Do you have that? 'Cause you're not supposed to do that. - Like letting negative thoughts in. - Spotting, not supposed to let the negative thoughts in at all. - Yeah, I see, I don't understand when people say that. Like when they're like, don't, like, like I'll think a lot, like I'm getting sick. - Yeah. - And they'd be like, you're manifesting it. I'm like, well, I'm just fucking panicking. What am I supposed to do? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But how do you not panic about being like. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. - How do you not say, or I'll say something to Naveen, I'll be like, I'll be like, oh, I'm fat. Like making a joke, she's like, you're not allowed to say that. - Well, it's different saying it. - That's self-petitive. - You could troll that. But like, thinking it, fuck, it stresses me out. 'Cause when people are like, like, I'll get reoccurring headaches, right? And they're like, well, it's usually when you're stressed. - Right. - And I'll be like, well, I don't like getting headaches 'cause that makes me stressed. 'Cause then I can't do my work. And then it just feels like a revolving thing. - Yeah. - So like, will I be getting headaches all the time? 'Cause I'm constantly stressed about getting headaches. Therefore I will be getting headaches. - But that's not negative thoughts. That's just, you're a little OCD, which is fine. I mean, everybody has that. - I also have negative thoughts. - Like what? - Fuck you, myself. (laughing) - What's the negative thoughts? - He's now told him twice and Chase has ignored it. - Chase, what's the negative thoughts that you have? - I'll just be like, I'll just be like, I'm over, my career's over. I'm never gonna fucking do anything. My Instagram fucking real tanked. Oh my God, my YouTube video tank. Fuck. - Oh, interesting. - God damn it, I have this brand deal. It's not gonna do well. They're gonna take the deal away. Oh my God, I'm fucking done. - I think the difference between me and you for that is like, you look at, you have kids also have a very different perspective. - Yeah. - But like, I've always looked at it like from when I was making a couple hundred bucks on YouTube. - Yeah. - To making more to where I am at now that like, oh yeah, if it's over, like, I know the things I love. Like, I love staying at home. I love playing video games and I love hanging out on my friends. - That gives you comfort. - You're like, I could always go do the things I love. - Yeah, like, worst-case scenario. I'm chilling. (laughing) - I gotta do that. - And it's like, and it's like, and I love like, as much as I didn't like being a waiter, like I still like interacting with people. Like, there's always gonna be a job that I'm going to do and like, will it pay? Like, an outrageous amount? Maybe not, but like, I don't know, it's never like really freaked me out. - Right. - So maybe I don't have those negative thoughts that you have. - No, you don't. - I have them in different ways, but that's not how I think about that. - How do you have them? - Well, I can't really put them into perspective, I guess, 'cause mainly it's about like headaches, getting sick, and like, not getting enough rest. Like, I have a lot of anxiety about just not being healthy. - Oh yeah. - It's just like constant. But do you live such a, you live a life where you're just like going so many places? - Right, which is why like, it's horrible. Like, I hate that I think like that. - Right. - Let's think about the whoop the other day. You know how like, measures like you're sleepin' shit? - Yeah. - Do you think, first of all, I think that's crazy. I think it's crazy when people want to know if they're getting good night's sleep. Like, that just gives me so much anxiety. Like, I don't wanna wake up thinking I had good night's sleep and then my fucking device tells me that I actually didn't. I think that's like the worst thing on the planet. - Oh yeah, I slept great. No, you did it. Who the fuck are you? - I have a little thing beeping on my wrist. - That's really funny, has it ever happened? - Of course, that's why I stopped wearing those things. - Really? 'Cause it would give me a sleep score and I'd be like, I do not want to see. Like, I know how I slept. What is this? - Are you sleeping well? - So that's another thing. - When do you get your best night's sleep? - I go hotel, foot, no. - Oh, you're bad. - My bad. - Uh-oh. - The curtains close in your room? - No, we're an eye mask. - Oh yeah, you told me that. - Which is crazy that I've lived here for four years. My curtains don't close all the way and I haven't invested in it. I don't know why. I don't know what's wrong with me. - Oh, that's interesting. You would think you'd have blackout curtains in that room. - Yeah, I'm gonna do that. Actually, I'm gonna do that. Hold me to it. I'm gonna do it in the next, in the next month. - I'll tell Tay on the way out. - Okay. - Yeah. - I think it's time. It's time to make that room fucking dark. - That's a big one. - No matter what the cost. - Yeah. - You're right, you're right. - It doesn't have to be expensive. - But it is kind of the pinnacle of life is to get a good night's rest. - It's everything. - What the fuck am I doing? - Did you sleep all last night? - I can't wait to get out. - Call it. - Be darned out. - Because I'm gonna get right on it, actually. - Get around the pub. - No, I don't sleep all anymore. - Why? - The last two months, this is fucking bizarre. - Yeah. - 'Cause I always used to make fun of people for the shit. - Hey. - Fuck up. That is it. Like, when I wake up, it's over. - You don't go back to sleep. - No. - You can't. - I wake up at like 8 a.m. now? - Oh no. - And I cannot go back to bed. If I go to the bathroom, I go to the bathroom like throughout the night a couple of times. I've been going last 'cause I drink less now. - Yeah. - But like, if I go to the bathroom and I, I have to make it up a very purposeful thing that I don't look at my phone. - Right. - 'Cause the second I look at my phone. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's over. - That's big. - It's all over your phone. - And it never used to be like that. I don't know what's going on, but I think I've hit like a new point in my life. - I just can't handle it. - I think you're, I think you're a pretty special guy. - Thanks, man. - And I would challenge you and I think you can do this to like not look at your phone like after 10 o'clock. - Yeah, no, no, no, I think you're right. - And you could even like put on a podcast, but put on the TV. - I may put on the views podcast. - Do you know what I do? - What? - Top top, and I put on Kill Tony, and I fall asleep to Kill Tony. - Damn. - It's nice. - I'm gonna show you. - But I don't look at my phone in the middle of the night anymore. - I'm gonna try, I'm gonna try getting into that. - And one more thing. - Oh guys, if also before we end the pot, if anybody also has anybody that does black out current shades, please let me know, and yes. - Yeah. - A humidifier. - Because you sleep in the heat, and I think that's affecting-- - I don't. - Oh, you don't anymore. - I've changed. - Is it cold? - I now sleep at 68. Okay, let's take it down to 66 with blankets over you. - Okay. - Telling you. - No, I want a little humidifier. - Jay, I was at 74 two years ago if you listen to the pot. - I'm very proud of you. I think that's really great. Oh, and also, if there's anyone that wants to sign up to incind a restaurant, I am signing restaurants up, Dave. - Wow, it's amazing. - Can we get Dobricks on there? 'Cause it's a big payday for Jay Dog. - Okay, yeah, I'll get Dobricks on there for you. - I already asked. - Okay. - All right. - As long as we're on it. - All right guys, that's all for the podcast for today's podcast. Thank you, Jason Ash. - Thanks a lot. - We will see you guys for the next one.