The conversation blends personal storytelling, literary analysis, and cultural commentary in a lively, reflective tone. The host discusses the slow, immersive process of reading Sarah G. Mass’s fantasy novel *Crescent City*, noting that the first 450 pages build atmosphere but lack immediate intensity, requiring patience and dedication. They emphasize that fantasy fiction demands substantial world-building, which can make the reading experience lengthy and emotionally engaged. The dialogue underscores the subjective nature of books, with one listener expressing discomfort with the first pages of a novel while another finds deep resonance in its storytelling. Personal anecdotes about life experiences—like a bike accident scar or a relationship with an AI bot—illustrate how shared stories foster connection. A pivotal moment comes when a quote about love being the true measure of success shifts the tone toward self-acceptance and resilience. The conversation also touches on historical events, such as the 1812 Mount Tambora eruption and the Irish potato famine, linking them to broader themes of human resilience and societal change. Humorous segments about fashion mishaps, TV shows like *White Lotus* and *Rooster*, and cultural references to AI relationships enrich the discussion. Ultimately, the episode celebrates the power of storytelling to connect people across personal, emotional, and historical divides, blending humor, vulnerability, and insight into a warm and engaging narrative.
Oh my sponge Bob. Why? Um, you might have been reading you. What? Good morning. Good morning to you. Welcome back to Broken Connor. Welcome back. It's good to see you. What can we get started for you? Could I maybe read you a passage out of? Yeah, let's start. I think that'd be a good way to start. Which I've been revisiting. Yeah. I trust you're having a better day this week. That was it. His deep groan brought her back to the present. His solid heavy vest against the padded. Did you swap it out from milking farm under there? Nice one. That's a magic. That's a movie magic. Oh, I love it. Oh God. You know, I've started that book, right? You know, I made pages in. Your eight pages in? Oh my gosh. She's just she's just beginning her career. She started at the farm. Yeah, she does not. She she knows not what she's done. I'm like, I'm really excited for you to give us some updates and I am going to read it. I am now. Crescent City just got good at 450 pages in. So I'm locked. I'm now locked into that. And so it should speed by now. The rest of the other 450 pages should should speed right by. It's a 900 page book. I think it's actually 800. It got good at like 60% in. Maybe 55. To me. It's just like. Wrap it up. You know, it's hard because with fantasy books, it's like, you do have to put in the work, unfortunately, to receive the payoff. Like it does take that amount of like world building to then have a really like satisfying story. Most of the time. I the popular sentiment is just like, just get right to it. But I'm not sure that you really can with a good fantasy book. That's why you really have to be like in the zone for one of those. It's just very impressive to me that you're you're able to give it that sort of dedication. It's just like when you know that it's going to get good. It's you something will look forward to. How can you know? Because I trust. I trust as I am with my life. You trust her gut. Oh, I trust her with my gut. There's no part of you that's like, this girl has me wrapped around her finger. She does, but like she's earned it with her pros. Mm hmm. Really feel that way. I my feelings would be heard if she had my fat ass sitting there reading 450 pages with blue balls. Let me clarify. The first 450 pages are not bad by any means. They're just like taking me somewhere. They're not like hitting me. They're not like punching me yet. They're edging me. Yeah. I guess you could say edging. I guess you could bring blue balls into the conversation. I mean, there's no other way to put it. Yeah. I guess you're right. Mm hmm. How long has that taken you 450 pages? Longer than I prefer. I will say her they zoom by her books. Like I should be done in like a day or two with the remaining 400 now that I'm sucked. But it has taken me like three weeks to get to this point. But like with the one of hers is like 900 plus. I think it's actually a thousand. One of hers and it took me two days because it's like I was it was already like the ace book in the series and I was already there. You know. So once you're in your end in you zoom. 900 pages is so. It's big like it's not small text and it's not dense. Once you get into the world. I'm simply not an author, but this is just like it doesn't compute for me. That's why I'm so happy there's different kinds of people. Exactly. Different kinds of people, different kinds of authors, different kinds of books. As we discussed in the bonus last week, reading is subjective. And I can't stress that enough. You're not going to like every book and that's totally fine. Thank you. I have a lot of respect for Sarah G. Mass as a person, but I wanted to throw up when I read two pages of that first book that I picked up. Akatar. Yeah. What made you want to throw up? It was bad. Oh, interesting. To me. Well, you know, Akatar is really just the means to book two. I am not willing to do that. That's what I'm saying. And Connor, that's fine. You don't have to. If Sarah G. Mass knocked on my door, and said, would you like to get a coffee and say, yes, oh my god, you're Sarah G. Mass. I have so much utter, just like profound respect for you and your world building and your pros. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, she's not bound to the glue. It's like an old pages together. And she that's very strong glue to hold 900 pages together. Yeah, but it's not strong enough to do. She's going to do a thousand plus for the story that she has next. And so she's not going to put it into just one physical book. She's going to spread that shit out like butter. She should. Yeah. Because 900 pages is too big. I mean, then it carry on. She's going to. It would be nice. Like, you know, when I'm on a plane and I'm like, oh, I'm glad I filled up my hydroflask because if someone goes rogue, I'm going to hit them over the head with my hydroflask. Knock knock. Who's there? Hydroflask. Just hit you over my head with the hydroflask. Hydroflask. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, that's what I miss about the hydroflask. They have that little handle. My, my, uh, what do all it does not have that mine does. But it's like a little hit. It's like a toothy handle. I can hit someone over the head with this like pretty dammit. Silly. I mean, if you threw that, if you threw your water bottle at someone's head, they're going down. You don't or they're at least going to be faltered. Yeah. They're dropping. They're dropping their weapon. Yeah. You know, anything can be a weapon if you try hard enough. I'm just saying this 900 page book. That's a brick. Yeah. It is the one I'm speaking of is paperback. Paperback, paperback, paperback, paperback. I want my paperback, paperback, paperback. I didn't take me to the next today, but I do feel funky. I'm having came out of my throat. And let's just say thank God for that because if it didn't before this episode, this episode would have been really challenging. Like you did take me as an excite beat? No, it's just a natural birth. Complete natural birth. No drugs. Good. I've been feeling so existential recently. Like I was just looking at the scar on my ankle that I got when I was five. And it's just like the same scar in the same body of the same girl. Yeah. What's your scar from? I was on a bike down a hill and then slammed into a mailbox. And then the wood posts sliced my ankle open. I knocked the whole mailbox down. You knocked the mailbox down? I've not seen it. I've not seen a free standing mailbox in my entire life. By the way, I didn't think that those were. What do you mean? Like our mailbox was in a big box or a thing with other like our neighborhoods was just like. Oh, really? Yeah, like you go pick up your mail. Oh, this was just like a classic mailbox with a wooden post in the tin head. Not Nemo? Wow. Not yeah. No. R.I.P. Isn't it weird? We have known each other for like six years and I wouldn't like I never would have known about your scar from hitting the mailbox if we didn't have this pocket. Like when we're sitting next to each other, like your scar wouldn't come up, you know? Honestly, like it might. I've been thinking a lot about it, but I see what you're saying. I'm just saying thank God for the podcast so we can get things like that off our chest. Yeah. I have a scar in my ankle as well. What's yours from? And it's from the young man who I once was. That's so scary. I know. I obviously told everyone it was from a shark bite for a long time. Yeah, I'm sure you did. Like so much so that I forget what it was. Wow. That happens to me too. Like I'll lie about something for so long that I forget what the truth is. And then the lie just becomes the truth. And then I get confused. I'm like, am I lying? I have certain family members that operate under that belief completely, but it's like convicted. And I have a different memory of events than they do. Yeah. You know, well, that's simply not what happened. But it's genuinely like my word versus theirs. Yeah. And there stands because they're not willing to budge. Yeah. I'm feeling this is sorry. What were you saying? I'm feeling like this isn't our usual. I feel like I feel like, you know, in Hollywood when they're like, they killed him and they brought in a different man. Yeah. I like Jim Carrey and Avril Lavigne. Yeah. I feel like. Yeah. I feel like we're the remix today. Yeah. Well, it's probably just my haircut. It's your haircut. Yes. I like it. Well, you can't. It's in a bond because I tried to do too much to it this morning.
and it just was a complete fricking disaster, but I got chopped like to my shoulders. My hair's really short and I look 30. That's what I'll say about that. But maybe I'll reveal next week, down. - Reveal what? - Oh, my hair. Yeah, it's up right now. - It looks good. I said it looks healthy this morning. - Thanks, Connor. Yeah, definitely it feels great. Like my hair was so long, it was like almost down to my belly, but no, I'm not exaggerating. - Do you know how I texted you guys last time? I said I looked like a massive grease ball on last week's episode. - Yeah. - I think I put lotion in my hair instead of my hair gel. - Oh. - 'Cause it wasn't in my Dopp kit, which I just realized it's not Dopp kit. Someone was kind enough to let me know that for the past decade or so. - And people keep yelling at me for correcting you. I'm not correcting you. I agree that it's called that where you're from. I'm just saying I had never heard that from where I'm from. - So our literature's just so long. Toiletree bag? - Toiletree bag. - Yeah, it is. - How much time do you have? - It is long, but it's just like, I've never even knew it was called something else. - Well, it was. - What is this song that's little mama and Avril Lavigne remix? - Little mama. - Yeah. - Who's that? - Lil mama. Doesn't Lil mama sing my lip glosses pop in? - Yes. - But there's another song that's Lil mama and Avril Lavigne remix. Oh, girlfriend? Fabulous. - We'll have to listen to that in the bonus. - Yeah. - Dr. Luke. - At camp our like roll call was everyone had a word of the song lip gloss. So it'd be like, my lip gloss is pop in like an everyone had a word just so we were all like, here. (laughing) - To check in. - What's the one that's, you don't have to let, you don't have to love me. You don't even have to like me, but you will respect me. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. - I don't know. - Let's shift gears. Let's shift it into high years. - I'm fine shifting. - What? - I'm fine shifting. - Well, my whole thing last week was, and I think I talked about it at the war. - Yeah. - I don't wanna talk about the war. - Okay. - But we are in one now. - Oh, like on God. We got an alert. - What? - No, like when we were leaving here last week that California was in danger of being drowned striked. - Just what's so crazy to me is like. - I was not okay after that. - Like what's so crazy to me is like, yeah, I'm sitting there. And I'm like, my first I was like, oh my God, of course this would happen when the UV is six. You know, I was like, it's such a nice day. They would do that. And I don't even know when I say day, like, Iran. - Yeah, Iran, but now I'm on like conspiracy talk that like if anything happens, it's gonna be from our government. Like pretending to be Iran, which like I'm in deep on, it's bad. I need to stop. But like. - Don't worry, wherever you are, I've been for a week. - Okay. - Wherever you get to, like I already know the conspiracy. But my whole thing was like, I'm in New York. That's my number one fear in New York. Anytime I'm in a group of people, I'm like, oh my gosh. Like that's where my head goes is like, well, and then I get to California and they're like, we're actually gonna do it here this time. - Yeah. - And it's like, oh my God. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. I don't, yeah, we don't even need to talk about it. I just like, I just thought that that was an interesting decision and strategy. - I thought I was going down. I was at the beach this weekend. - Yeah. - It was Conor Gorgeous, UV seven, sun out. - Yeah. - Tits out. - Yeah. - Not mine, but probably someone on the beach. - Face down. - Orges, I'm reading Crescent City. Hello wolf shifters, like, hello demons. Like, hi, hi, I look up a fog had rolled in, out of nowhere. It was the most intense fog that you had ever seen in your life. And in that moment, I was like, oh, how can I be in it? And in that moment, I was like, okay, this is, this fog is from the enemy. - Yeah. - Obscuring everything so that we don't see the drones that are attacking, I have to vacate the beach immediately. - 100%, but I just want to say that-- - Siking myself. - I, like, don't think they're going to drone strike four young women on the beach. Like, I don't think that that would be there. - Well, here's the thing, and we don't know, I don't want to even talk about this anymore in this space. But, like, I don't know what they can do. We don't know-- - Oh, bro, I-- - Bro, bro, I don't know what they can do. - We don't know, that's the thing. - The powers that be, can you do? - No one knows. - But you know what else, Brooke, at the same time, what can we do? - 'Cause the last thing I really have to go off of is Pearl Harbor, which I've been looking through a lot. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And, like, I don't think that's gonna happen again, but what will, what will an attack look like? I don't know, and I don't want to say anything in this space, I don't want to conjure anything. - So, I was taxing people that are smarter than me. - That's what I like. - Which I love to do, because it's always fun to talk to the one person who, like, I'm like, they have something to do, they know something, and it's always like, my, yeah, my uncle's ex-wife like works for the government, so like, I'm gonna tax them. - Yeah. - Yeah, and that's enough for me. - And please do. - And I did. And they were like, I was like, I'm gonna get drafted. They're like, well, you're too old to get drafted, so you're good. - That's mean. - No, that was mean. I'm like, now I want to get drafted, you know? Like, like, me faking my, me getting a fake ID down. - Yeah. - And then they were like, we also, like, but they did pass a bill to have like an automatic inscription. - Like, auto, okay. - I think, I do think, like you said, I do think that they are, they're moving forward with the sexist and homophobic version, so you're safe at two. And like, I'm, actually we're both too old to get in less than any way, but like 18 to 25 young woman. No. So as soon as you can rent a car. - 18 to 26. Just mail, hello. - Yeah. - Yeah. - The thing is, dude, when I asked my friend, he said that we don't fight wars like that anymore. Like this is, this is hearsay. Now all the wars are going to be like - On the computers. - Bags and computer. Thank you, computer. Yeah, and now we got, I mean, in real time, we're watching the computers go from our friends to. - To our foe. - To our foe. - Yeah. - So, watch it and all those people that are like, I tell chat GBT, thank you, because I'm human. They're gonna end up being right. - Scary. Did you see the girl that's in a relationship with, did we watch that on my strange addiction last week? She's in a relationship with some sort of like AI bot. Oh, what's his name? It's like something really unique. It starts with an S. And he's like more of a DOM. Then he would expect, yes. - Sinclair. - Sinclair. So she's been in a relationship with Sinclair for two years, despite the skepticism around it. And that is like, remember when we watched, what was that movie with Joaquin Phoenix her? And we were all like, that's crazy. Like, that's happening. Thank you, the Black Mirror. You're getting there, bro. - Thank you. - Anyway. - That too for her AI bot. - Oh, what was her tattoo? Okay. - Oh, it's huge. - Skinny. - And it's on her chest. That's good. - To whatever. - Um, what? - To whatever end. That's from Throne of Glass. - You can, she's also like very hot. Sarah. - I'm having trouble today. - With what? - Well, now like all I, the most I've talked today was about the war. And like, I'm, I'm just like not fired up for Sarah and her AI boy friend. - That's fine. Do you want to hear something positive? - Yeah, yes. - Something that Ethan Hawks said on the Oscar's red carpet actually changed my life. - Okay. - He said to Amelia of chicken shop. Is he, would you mind pulling up whatever he said to chicken shop? He was basically saying that the people that love the hardest are the winners. Because we are the sun. And that's all I can say without. - A bit of a unrequited love theme in their life. - The one who's the love always wins. - Okay. - Yeah, it doesn't matter if you get your heart broken. You're living when you're, when you feel in your alive. You know, the sun doesn't care whether the grass appreciates its race, right? It just keeps on shining. That's you. - I'm gonna get that tattooed on my forehead, I think. - We are the sun. We just gotta keep on shining, man. Who cares if the grass doesn't appreciate it? We're living. I'm talking about the lovers. - I just don't know if I agree with that. - Well, you, with all the respect. - I would say you're not necessarily
sitting in my Kelly Clarkson. Well, I'm just saying, well, I would say, too, as well, that the one who's in love always wins isn't true because you could be in love and Connor, just come on, man, that's exactly what he just said. I don't think that's true. It's completely fricking true because it has to be Connor, the one that let me have it. Hey, hey, hey, hey, let me have this course. The one who's in love always wins when the one who's in love has a very, very stable mental now, the son, the son is acknowledging, I don't, I don't care that you don't, that you don't appreciate these rays that I'm giving you because I'm secure in myself as the son. Yeah. But if, if you're so madly in love that it's making you sick, well, he's kind of telling you change your mindset. So to take, I'm now taking on this mindset. Can you stop putting a lighter up against your chin like that? I love the whole things that are long like this, like a wand. I think I would do well with. So what I'm saying is now that when your mindset flips to being like, hey, like loving means that I'm living right on, I'm the son because feeling is good. Oh, it's amazing. It's living. Feeling is living. Yeah. Feeling is living and it's the sun. That's true. Absolutely. And Brooke, pinch me. I must be dreaming. You need to be pinched to feel something to know you're living. Exactly. You know, I did a deep dive into the potato famine. Yeah. Because of St. Patrick's happy St. Patrick's what did you do to celebrate the most amazing meal? Ooh. Yeah. What did you have? I went to Leora. Have you heard of Leora? No, I'm not, I'm not familiar. It's going viral on TikTok for, it's in the UTI office I went with Rebecca. Beautiful. It has completely blown up because it is so good. They have these like kind of like ice creamy iced coffees and these really cool glasses with a pop tab on it. The pop open like a soda. Sure. And yeah, those and also an insane tuna melt. Sure. It is as good as everyone's saying. It's kind of like Mediterranean, but they also have a secret hand roll that's not on the menu. And it is so incredible. I had the tuna melt some hand rolls, a Chinese chicken salad, Tater tots. I also had a pistachio coffee as well that I got to open like a soda. It was freaking incredible. So packed. You can hardly get a reservation. It's incredible. Thanks. That's what I had for lunch on St. Patrick's Day. Well, that's I'm so happy that you're able to celebrate in that way. And you had some potatoes. Yes. Exactly. Yes. I don't know. Tell me about the potato famine. No, I don't know. I don't know anything about it. The only the only fact that really struck me is that Irish workers were eating 12 to 15 pounds of potatoes a day. That's like a dream to me. But I bet the potatoes they were eating were not like fried tots. That's a good question. I don't know in what format they were eating the potatoes, but basically, oh my gosh, I'm not remembering any of the facts. Now that was the only thing that really stuck with me and stuck with me. I hate when that happens. I do know that there was like five point something million Irish people in Ireland and a million died. Wow. 20% for my math freaks. That's a lot. Yeah. I wonder if there are any like good like historical fiction books about the potato famine. Like a Christian Hannah type of beat. I have another fun fact about that. Not about the Irish, the, oh, Connor, maybe you could read Galway Bay. I love. I went to. I went to Galway Bay. I've physically gone there. Is that the same as Galway girl by Ed Sheeran? Close. Galway is like a, I don't know if they call them cities there. I can't remember, but it's like a town. It's the same Galway. Yeah. I think I would say so. Um, what was she saying about his Galway girl and then I need to go to my fun fact? Because I think that you'll really like it. She's she met pretty little Galway girl. So she's pretty. Yeah. Okay. She played the fiddle in an Irish band, but she fell in love with an English man. Guess about the hand. When I met him the other day, what months ago? Oh, yeah, Ed, um, we were watching this band, this Irish band that was all women and they were so good and cool. I love that. And she was playing a fiddle. I love that. And I think that he might have written it about her. Wait, but and you were with him. Yeah. Not with him, but I was right next to him. Wait, where was this again? Um, I can't remember the name of the bar. It's like a ball. It's like an Irish bar here. And he was just there or it was an event. He was there. Well, it was with Guinness. So it was like a closed little tiny, yeah, well, it was like a concert series, but it was like 40 people. Okay. Just, but it wasn't like an edge here in meet and greet. I didn't know he was going to be there. Right. It was so cool though. It was very sweet. I really love to go to Ireland one day. I had such an amazing time. Yeah. Um, so did you know there was a volcano in the Indonesia in the 1812, and then it exploded. And it covered the entire atmosphere of the entire world. It was so big. It exploded. 1812. Did I? Yeah. Did I? Yeah. I didn't. What? What? What? What's your holdup against volcanoes in 1812? Do you think they're invented later? No, I'm just saying like, if that happened, like recently, like we would know if in volcano covered the entire atmosphere. Brooke, we do know. That's why I'm telling you. I would know that. Like, that's not. Okay. Yeah. In 1812, the volcano began to rumble and generated a dark cloud. And on April 5th, the giant eruption occurred, followed by thunderous detonation sounds, but it did not cover the entire atmosphere. It covered the entire-- Talk about the eruption of Mount Tambora. Yes. Tomorrow. There's no way it covered the entire atmosphere. It covered the entire atmosphere. And Brooke, the entire world for one year was covered in ash and dust. So much so that it froze things and-- but everyone's like-- in England, all the crops died. Mary Shelley was so bored, she wrote. Frank and Son, thank you, Timorindo. I feel like I would have heard about Mount Tambora if it affected like the parts of history that we learn about in school. Like so. This is-- this is coming-- this is coming from me, okay? You need to trust Papa on Mount Tambora. Tambora. Is he-- can you Google the eruption of Mount Tambora affect the entire world? Cause worldwide cooling, resulting in widespread crop failures, famine, and disease across. Okay, it's just talking about Europe, Asia, and North America. That's the-- It's not the whole world. It's just three of the continents. The year without a summer, yeah. Someone else wrote something too, that year, that's pretty big deal. Look, why aren't they teaching me about Mount Tambora in school? Because it's got has to come from-- has to come from B and C. And everybody, if you learned about Mount Tambora just now, you need to drop a comment. Let us hear you roar. Let me know. The largest eruption recorded in history, cause why it's for climate chaos, known as the year without a summer. Damn. Yeah. Like that, that I shouldn't-- I should have-- I should at least be familiar with the name. I agree. How did you come across this? Well, I downloaded that app that I get ads for. That's the TikTok of history. Paladin. You know, history is my worst subject. Do you know it's my favorite? Yeah, I do. I love that shit. Huh. Well, you know what, Connor, my apologies for being such a skeptic. I'll take it. This happens once every blue moon. That's exactly why I know that we are imposters. Because I apologized? No, because I got something right. And you're apologized. Like someone switched her bodies out. No, I feel like I'm always wrong. Hello. Who has the real brooking Connor? Hi, always wrong. No, I don't think so. I think I'm pretty convicted when I come to you and I say, let me tell you something. We Google it. I'm dead wrong. Like it's like the fact that I'm trying to prove to you is like completely made up based on nothing. Oh, OK. I can see that. OK, sometimes you have a feeling and it's like this. I feel this so hard. I feel so hard right now, which is how I know I'm alive. And that's such a blessing to be a lover. Exactly. It's like the sun. It's like the sun. And I don't care about-- I don't give a fuck about the grass. You're shaking. And I don't-- yeah. What do you mean? Good job not sucking that water down. Thank you.
been like actually making your conscious effort, not to suck as hard. You like really nailed that. Like I watched with eyes locked like what you saw. Yeah, I did. I was really, I'm really impressed with your form. Thank you. And grow, I'm going to try to drink this whole water bottle. That would be, Brooke, that would be very impressive. You would be impressed by that. I would be impressed. I'm going to try to do that. Oh my gosh, speaking of form, I switched gems. And I went for the first time last night and there was so many like athletes that I walked my ass back to the back and I went rock climbing. That sounds so fun. I want to join a gem with a pool so badly, but I'm not going to which sucks. Why? It will be too far from me. I'm sure there's other pool gems. I just can't see my, like I'm the least independent person in the world. So either it has to be like my local gem that is like so accessible, that it's like almost like a disgrace that I don't go. Or it has to be something that I'm doing with someone else. Why are you doing swim classes with someone? I don't need to take swim classes. You know, I've heard of a heckable form. I forgot you're a whale. Yeah, I'm a whale, but I would need someone to go to the gym with me. I understand. I totally understand. I think I would have to wear a cap. I don't want to get my barrel for any or you know what? I would do one of those like conditioners, treatments. Did I tell the story about when I had to put a cap on in Italy? I don't know. Can you hold that thought because I can, I can see it right here because I obviously haven't unpacked completely my suitcase from Italy. Hold on to the cap thought. Hang on, just hang on, yes, hang on. Well, while I'm hanging, I'll tell you that I was so obsessed with my cap. When I was on the swim team that you guys know the hot tub in Florida that I read in. I was wearing my cap in there. I'm, I'm going to break in spring break. Sting cap, cap on in the hot tub with my speedo. Above water, above water, cap on. So, so we had, when we were in Italy, we had a spa day and we, we're going to the spa. We get to the spa and I'm thinking, amazing. Like this is going to be so nice to put on a robe, get a massage, whatever. I forget what else you do at the spa, facial, whatever. I get there and they're like, everyone goes into change and I was like, changing to what? And they were like, you're bathing suit and I'm like, I didn't bring you bathing suit. On account of it's snowing out and they go, I'll go to the front. I see if I can buy one. I go, can I buy bathing suit? They go, yes, of course. And they go, what size? I go, I'm guessing medium and they come out and they go, best we can do a small. No. I can't emphasize enough like, I'm going to stand up so you can see like how much these cover. Here's the back. Yeah. I'm going to stand up. Yeah. Yeah. Were you doing high waisthood like that? Yeah. Yeah. Did you put them on? I'm already at the spa, but she's holding them up. She takes them out of the package. She holds them up. They were in like a little like a Skittles bag. She holds them up and I'm like, oh my god, look at me like, that's not going to work. And I go and I don't have the body. For those and she goes, I know, but this is what we have. And I said, you know, I was like, give me those. So then I'm like, I'm going to prove for wrong. I did not prove for wrong. Cause it was right. So I put them on. I'm like, are there any photos of this? Oh, I have a photo. I'd love to see it if you're open to it. Should I really send this to you? Yeah. All right, I'm just going to continue with the story though. Okay. So I put on the bathing suit, right? I go into the spa and I'm like, okay. Well, maybe spa means something different in Italy. Like maybe it just means like water park because I walk in and there's the big bucket that's dumping and there's kids going down slides. I'm in legitimate underwear and it's all kids. And I can't even find the people I came with. And there was a there was a hot tub and I'm just almost naked and like, there's parents sitting. There's a birthday party happening with like cake and pizza. I'm in this thing. And then I sit and they're there. All of a sudden the life guards are blowing whistles at me pointing at me pointing at me. I'm like, what's going on? I got in the water without a swim cap. They made my big fat dumb ass put on a swim cap. Now I'm in underwear in a swim cap. I look like a penis. Like there's no other way I look like a penis in a condom. And I'm going to show I'm going to send you this picture. I can't believe you haven't shared this already. And this is not being shared on the podcast. Okay. This I just said that to both of you. No, the picture's not being shared on the podcast. Honor. Oh, I think you look great. Really? Yeah. Also, that's a hat. Like it's a winter hat. Oh, that's not my swim cap, Brooke. Okay. Do you have a photo in the swim cap? Yeah, you look like a swimmer. That's really kind. Yeah. You bought it in Morphea. What you what you can't see in that is that it's going up my ass. Like my, my butt is eating those shorts. I actually feel like you look good in this. What? I feel like you, like you look good. Oh my gosh, Brooke is exercising her, her lovemanship. Yeah, I am. Oh my gosh. Well, I appreciate that. Like you have like abs or something. Well, I was, I was stunting on them. Ho is at the, at the kiddie pool. No, no. There's nothing too flexed, frankly. I think you look great. Oh my gosh. Yeah, keep it here. Keep it here. I think you should show this on the podcast, I'm not even kidding. I don't want to. Okay. I will, I'll edit it and then I'll show you everyone on the podcast. I don't think you can do. Um, I made a plate of eggs and I want you to know I didn't finish them. And I put cottage cheese on the eggs. But I'm such a brave, brave young man for eating cottage cheese on my eggs now. That I don't love. No, because it's two of probably the most in unhuman. Consistencies of foods that are to, I mean, it's genuinely slop. I know people that sitting it, sitting around that make eggs. Presentation is not the end goal when you're making eggs at like scrambled eggs. Specifically, I could go for a plate of Marshall's eggs right now. When I come back, which by the way, I'm about to be there for two and a half weeks. Yeah. Um, I'm, I'm getting those eggs come over and Marshall will make us eggs. I would love to. Oh man, he is good. I'm there for so long that I'm getting an Airbnb that Wow. Where can you say? I don't know yet. I haven't, I haven't booked because I'm banned from the app still like Marshall's already. I'm, I'm banned too. But how are you, why are you I don't know. I think because of association with you. Hmm. But who knows me like Marshall already like is so hot. And like when he is serving me those eggs on a plate. It's like you like are the hottest guy in the world to me. And in general, wow. Yeah, that's great to hear. I really can't wait. It's so awesome. I wish everyone could experience Marshall delivering all like wet eggs. Do you want to talk about the oxers? Whoa. Yeah, I'm down to talk about the oxers. Okay, the oxers were great. I didn't like, okay, I have to say really quickly about the actual show. You, you know, my love for Conan O'Brien just beat mostly because one, actually several things. I'm going to lay it out. I know you like him too. I do. I love it. I, I think he's really wanted like the greatest to do it. One, we kind of weirdly look like that was my original doppelganger. I did the face match thing and like match me with him. I static posted it back in the day, right? Two, he's, he's a comedian that is verge of obnoxious and then stops right before it. Like makes me upset, which I know I'm not the barometer for like. I can see what you're saying though. Like he never pushes it too far. No, like, you know, like Jimmy Fallon's laugh. That's like, I'm like, okay, like what are you, why are you, what are you laughing at? You know, we're like, I, he knows exactly where to stop. I love it. And he's not like, there's not like a ton of news about Conan Orion all the time. You know, it's like, I'm going to be, I'm like a permanent figure in the space. And I'm going to leave it right there. And if I get asked a host, now something was very weird about the room that they were in or something. Like, I don't know if it was the audio or what? Like some, or the, if the, it was like, the vibe that it was giving was you go to a wedding. And the room is too big for the amount of people that are there. So no one dances. That's good.
kind of the vibe I was getting, like no one's jokes were landing to me, it was awkward. There was something wrong with the tech. Maybe it was that. Maybe there was a delay. I don't know. There was something off, like the way that they kept cutting people off was different than they usually do. It was like more severe and rude. They cut off that short French film, and we know. They were being really mean to the point where I was like, this has to be an accident. Like they can't, they're not actually being this rude, they can't be. Because usually they play the music, but like this time they were like removing the mic and like, it was just like, I don't know. It felt like a, like a, like smart house like gone wrong. They removed the mic from someone and then they went to Conan's face and he was like. Yeah, it was not. Which I'm like, oh my god. This is not like very professionally done. It was like a hijacked. Hijacked. Hijacked. Hijacked. Yeah, it was weird. I do, on a positive note, I did like 90s feeling it was. It was kind of 90s or like early 2000s. What gave you that vibe, the design of the stage. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Timothy Chalme didn't win, even though just like, nothing could ever embarrass Timothy Chalmey, but the feeling it must have felt for him to wear the same suit that he wore to his first Oster's nomination to his third or like, I guess, I don't know if it was this next or his third and he wore it again, assuming like, maybe this is the time I win. I feel like he had to know he wasn't winning this one. No, I don't think that they can, I don't think that they, I think that this might be the most tight-lipped secret and you know, like how like VMAs and stuff Taylor Swift is at this. So like obviously, or like Beyonce is here. Right. No to those unless they're going to accept the award. I don't mean like he actually knew, I just mean like in his heart, like I feel like he shouldn't know in this one, this one wasn't happening. He's been campaigning for an Oster, like, I don't know it. I have not seen anyone do what he's done ever in my life. Did we speak about the opera ballet controversy? I don't know. I have feelings about it actually and I feel like usually I don't really care about this kind of stuff. Oh, like upset, yeah? No. It didn't. I mean, he said it really poorly. What he said, like was delivered poorly, but like I understood what he was saying that like it is just a fact that like we don't go to the opera and we don't go to the ballet in the same way that we go to the movies and it came out of his mouth like pretty badly. Delivery was off. Delivery was really off. Like I got what he was saying. I just feel like people are paying more attention to what he said and it felt like they were paying more attention to like him to him than like the war at the Oscars. Like I felt like Conan got a joke in which was good, but then like so many other people referenced it and there was like so many ballet and opera things that I was like you guys like your book at this point it felt like bullying to me. So people think that like that his he shot himself in the foot literally because I know of that comment that resurface from 2019 they said it wasn't that was fake. It was recent and like I get that it was really poorly delivered for sure, but like I know we're talking about the ballet and I feel like most people know what he meant and we're talking about we don't we don't talk about the ballet. I know. Unfortunately but that's true, but like that we're doing it now so like if anything he rate like people are probably going to go to the ballet more because he said the people don't go to the ballet. Sure, but I'm just like what I was like whoa at the amount of attention people were giving it at the Oscars, like I would have if I were him I would have like I think I would have had to leave. I would just like it's so tough. Slow news week over there and like I'm surprised that he hasn't clarified because like I guess he just really doesn't want to give it any more attention, but like if I said something and I meant a different thing and was like so misunderstood I would be really anxious to like clear up what I meant, but he's just like letting it letting it go, which like almost like okay respect to that I guess, but I would have felt so uncomfortable crawling out of my scan if I were him. Yeah, that sucks. Thank you the Academy. Damn it. But yeah, I was feeling like because I also never mind. That's it, I guess that's really all I had to say about that. There's nothing really left to say. I also actually I have something yeah Timothy Xiaomei being how old is he? 30. He's 30 years old. It's just it's funny to me because I truly they I think it's genuinely funny that he had so many marbles in Marty Supreme, which I think is like one of his lower in my eyes like acting wise. I think he's his like call me by your name blows Marty Supreme out of the water acting wise I think. You know, it's like crazy that this is where all everyone's money was was Marty Supreme, which I really like outspoken Martin fan and Marty Supreme. Yeah, I really like the movie. Yeah. It's the only one I saw of the Oscars I need to watch sinners need to watch sinners. Hamnet was like grief porn. Yeah, I don't think I can do hamnet. No, I don't want you to know I think that would really like severely put me in a state or you need to watch it on like a Wednesday so that by next Wednesday like we are like crawling out of the hole. Yeah. Hamnet sinners. I forget what else. One battle after another. Which? I could watch. Oh. Like Leonardo DiCaprio. Looks great. He looks amazing. How did he just wake up one day and decide for his swelling to go away? He looks incredible. Nicole Kidman. I was like, oh my God. Yeah. I like it's I want a facelift right now. Did you see Nicole Kidman on Lost Cultures says? Yeah. Yeah. That was best in show. It's so weird seeing her as just like shooting the shit like that. Just like I'm not going to be one of those people that's like, are you high and it's just like someone having fun? You know, like I hate people like that. Yeah. Genuinely, the funniest and you have to remember she's an actress. So like she's like she could turn that on and off and like a theater, you know, officially not. So like she can do that. But when Matt showed his shirt, did you see that? No, I don't think I saw that part. I've only seen clips. He opens his shirt and he's wearing a loony tunes shirt. Yeah. She goes, Oh, yes, loony tunes, yes, Tweety bird, Tweety bird, yes. Please can we play the clip? It's like and bone is like this trying to hold he's just like, is anyone else? She's like, she's like having an out of body situation at his at his loony turns. Here's here. Can we can we play the herb audio? Oh, yeah, here it is. I have my loony tunes characters on today. Yes. We love loony tunes. We love loony terms. Yes. Is this coyote? Yeah, there he is. Yes. No, no. Don't use a little quacka. There's Tweety. Yeah. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Honestly, I have one. Oh, my god. I knew it. It's Tweety bird. Yeah. Something is happening. Oh, okay. Oh, that is a situation. Is she having fun? Yes. Is that amazing? 5,000%. Is there something coursing through a system? I would say so. I want whatever she's like. And I want. Oh. Yeah. Let me be clear. I want it. Let me also be clear. There is something which I love that we are we are at like open advocates for like putting a little bit of something that in yourself on the camera. I'm not I'm not going to speculate at all. No. Either way, I just I want even if it's mindset, it's mindset, I want the mindset. 50,000%. I. I love. I love that. Shit. Is that what you know how they say something scratched your brain. This is like grabbing my brain and and and feeling it up, you know, like, yeah. I really like that. I just seem more normal clips of her on it. Oh no, this one is I'm this was my favorite this one. This is going to be like I'm going to pull this up when I'm when I just like when I need it. Yeah, that's it. That's supremely fabulous. I couldn't watch that again. Yeah. I was going to ask. We could. I really love that. Okay. I have my loony to it's characters on today. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think that I think she's doing a bit, but I want to know what her relationship is with Tweety bird for her to be like my my Tweety bird, my Tweety bird. I would listen to a like an obsessed episode of Nicole X Tweety. Brooke, I broke I want to get into this mindset and go back and forth with you for it. I want an episode of like a Nicole Kenman episode. Oh.
- Oh my God, Nicole Quinn. - Look at how much she loves Tweety Bird. - Whoa! That's, this is awesome. - Fast. - Tweety Bird, Tweety Bird, Tweety Bird. - Why do you love Tweety Bird so much? - I love Tweety Bird, but I don't know. It's just cute, right? (laughing) I had no idea. I never know. - You say that. - I never know. - I love that. - I love that. - Go. - Oh, that's awesome. - Yeah. - So she hasn't been on White Lotus, right? - No, you're thinking of every other mini series that's existed on HBS. - Oh, like every little liar down the street. - Nine perfect strangers, big little lies, the undeclated. - Nine perfect secret wives, the Mormon ladies. - Yes. - Okay, I have a couple of things to run through TV wise if we can. - Me too. - One, I'm very confused. So they obviously like released, they keep doing waves of White Lotus castings. You know what, like there is some like big ones that come through and you're just like, whoa, this is gonna be great. - Yeah. - I need Jessica Lange, you know, like I need, you know, I need someone like that. Lange, what is it? - Lange, yeah. - Okay, I always say Lange. - That's fine. - Does way more American horror story to say Lange. - No, I wouldn't keep saying Lange. - I'm gonna walk through the most recent casting. - Yeah. - And then I want you to stop, okay. - I'm gonna run through it. - Okay. - Okay. - Alex Andrew Ludwig, A.J. Michalka. Michalka. Okay, you know what I'm saying, okay. - I've four is of course. - Hell in a Bonham Carter, Vincent Cassel, Steve Cugan, Sandra Bernard, that she's gonna be good. Dylan Innis, Caleb John T Edwards, Nadia T, Chris Messina, Chloe Bennett, Max Greenfeld. That's gonna be great. - Yes. - R.E. Grainer, Charlie Holt, that's gonna be great. - Kumail Corinthon Fila, I don't know her. Where is a long and Jared Paul? - I wonder if Chris Messina, Charlie Hall, and Max Greenfeld are gonna be like a family of, like, Burnett, White hair, White people, White boys. They all, like, 'cause they all could be similar if you tried. - Where is this one? Where is this one, France? - I don't know, I wanted to say France too. Yeah, it is. Okay, I could see some of them like studying abroad, like the younger people, because, like, there's a group of very similarly aged, good-looking, young folk. - Yeah, like Alexander and Charlie. - Yeah, and then that other young man that. - Oh, the other young man that I said is gonna be a pretty big problem for me and some of my peers. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And Marissa. - Yeah, so I could see that. My question for you is, is there usually every season, let me see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. Cast members on every seat, like. - This might be the most, but it's not like that far off. Especially when people love like last week. - Can we pull up like last week? - They're not all, like, what are they called? Like patrons of the hotel. Like maybe they're, like some are like working and stuff. - He's definitely gonna be a man from France. Like this is gonna be. - The third is 20, was 20, an hour. - What? - Yeah. - Oh, okay, I'm very wrong. It's hard for me to grasp it, how many people would be. And by the way, there's recurring characters too. I think three of the characters, the massage, the masseuse woman. - I wonder if Greg is coming back. - What? Pop up, the pop up look alike. - Greg is a troublemaker and I want him gone. I'm serious. - Well, I kind of need something like him to be the thread. - Mm, yeah. Well, I'm excited for that. I really need something like that. It's, I'm losing my marbles. Actually, I started watching Rooster with Steve Carell. - Oh, how fat. - You need to watch it, Brooke. Like, I'm rarely, like, I really think that Brooke would like this. This is one that I don't need to, like, it's cute. - Steve Carell's the love of my life. - And Brooke, he plays like, he plays some version of. - Michael. - Michael Scott. Like, it is an offshoot, but a little bit more mature, but very, very sweet. You need to watch Rooster. - Okay. - Highly recommend. I think it's HB, I can't remember my video. - I'll do that. - There's only two episodes out, but it's just, it's very good. 30 minute comedy. - Oh, perfect. That is perfect. I love him. - It's fabulous and it's so funny. - Oh my God, amazing. - You need to watch it. - I love him. - And the writing is really, really, really good. And it's set on a college campus. Which, do you know I love? - I do. I've been watching Age of Attraction. - Is that the reality one? - Yes. The Age Gap Dating Show. It's got me in its clutches. It is so good. Let me just tell you the premise very quickly. - Wait, what are they? - Yeah. - Basically, all these people are thrown into, like, some sort of, like, not quite a villa. I don't know, maybe some sort of resort. And people have all ages. And they're kind of just like speedating each other. And the only thing you can't talk about is how old you are. And so then once you kind of like make a match and you're like, okay, I wanna do this with you, then you go to the promised room, where you like give each other these promised rings. And you're like, okay, I wanna like go through this experience with you. And then you reveal your age. And then after you reveal your age, then you move in with each other and see, like, if it works or not. Some of these ages had my jaw on the floor. Like, they pick people intentionally, they pick people intentionally that you're like, okay, this person's like 40 tops. And it's like, I am 60. It's really wild. You should watch. - Wait, can you pull up the 27.54? - Can we zoom on that? - Yeah, but if you don't wanna be spoiled, then don't watch this part. But there's one girl that's 27 and one guy that's 60. I love them. They are like the, they are the favorite. They're the, what's the word I'm looking for? - They look like the crown jewels, maybe. They're the crown jewel of the season. They have, they're the only ones with any sort of potential. But no, this is not the, the guy is 60 and the girl is 27. Yes, Jorge is 60. - They look great too. - Yeah. - Ah, I like this. - Yeah, you should watch. - They better use ages just a number in this show, at some point. - Is it a song? Is that a song? - It's a saying. - Oh, yeah, obviously. But here's everyone. This, that brought me genuinely to something that I don't know anything about, but I just wanna like throw it out there. I don't have anything to say about this. I'm wondering if maybe you do. The secret lives of Mormon wives, which seems to be shooting 24/7 every single day. I've never watched an episode. - Neither. - Don't necessarily care to, even though I know that everybody in the world watches and I'm very out of the loop. I'm okay with being out of the loop with this one. But the young woman has now been cast as the bachelorette. - Right. - And it just came out in press that like, she had a domestic situation happen with her ex. And so it's like very obvious that she doesn't stay with anyone in the bachelorette that she's, it's not even out. It comes out on Sunday. And it's just like, oh my God, like. - Oh, I am dumb. I didn't realize that was current. I thought it was like something from the past that was. - No, no, that happened like last week. - Oh, so the show's completely ruined. And also, that's tough to all of us. - I will be watching 'cause it does look interesting and she looks like it's gonna be very good TV. - Pastors just like so, they need an element in there. Like maybe just make everyone gay or like something a little bit more like less vanilla. - They should lock everyone in and turn the lights off. - Just something, they need an added element. Like you have some dating shows that like have that like, okay, these people are like 58 years apart from each other. Okay, you can't see each other. Okay, you guys can't touch. So like to do one that's just like regular, it's not working for me right now. - One of you is a killer. - Yeah, something like that. - Yeah. - Okay, champ, well, much to discuss. - Wait, what? - Lot of TV to watch. - Lot of TV to watch, much to discuss you late. - I gotta get these eggs out from my line of sight, really quickly. - Okay. - If not sooner. - Good. - Okay, bye. - Well, thank you guys for everything seriously. You mean the world to me? I'm gonna take my huge, huge wellness pills and Brooks gonna finish her bottle of water. - Cheers to that halfway through. - I'm gonna finish my vase 'cause I'm out of cups again. Thank you guys for listening and watching. If you're listening, maybe consider watching. Throw us a bone. Okay, thank you guys. Bye. (audience cheering) [LAUGHTER]
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host reflects on reading Sarah G. Mass’s *Crescent City*, noting the first 450 pages are engaging but not yet punchy, describing them as "edging" rather than fully immersive.
A key insight is that successful fantasy books require deep world-building and dedication, which can make them time-consuming—taking weeks to read, even though the narrative eventually "speeds by" once the reader is fully invested.
The conversation highlights the subjective nature of literature, with personal reactions varying widely—from strong disapproval of a book’s opening to deep appreciation for its world-building.
The hosts humorously discuss the idea of a 900-page book being "a brick" and the impracticality of such length, suggesting it should be split into parts to avoid reader fatigue.
A personal anecdote about a scar from a bike accident is shared, emphasizing the value of emotional honesty and vulnerability through storytelling.
The hosts explore the cultural significance of AI relationships in modern media, referencing a character in *Black Mirror* who is in a relationship with an AI, reflecting on how such narratives mirror real human anxieties.
A philosophical shift occurs when a quote from Ethan Hawks about love being the true measure of success inspires a mindset of resilience and self-worth, regardless of external validation.
The discussion ends with a mix of humor, personal stories, and cultural observations, including a deep dive into historical events like the 1812 eruption of Mount Tambora and the impact of the potato famine in Ireland.
Summary:
The conversation blends personal storytelling, literary analysis, and cultural commentary in a lively, reflective tone. The host discusses the slow, immersive process of reading Sarah G. Mass’s fantasy novel *Crescent City*, noting that the first 450 pages build atmosphere but lack immediate intensity, requiring patience and dedication.
They emphasize that fantasy fiction demands substantial world-building, which can make the reading experience lengthy and emotionally engaged. The dialogue underscores the subjective nature of books, with one listener expressing discomfort with the first pages of a novel while another finds deep resonance in its storytelling. Personal anecdotes about life experiences—like a bike accident scar or a relationship with an AI bot—illustrate how shared stories foster connection.
A pivotal moment comes when a quote about love being the true measure of success shifts the tone toward self-acceptance and resilience. The conversation also touches on historical events, such as the 1812 Mount Tambora eruption and the Irish potato famine, linking them to broader themes of human resilience and societal change. Humorous segments about fashion mishaps, TV shows like *White Lotus* and *Rooster*, and cultural references to AI relationships enrich the discussion.
Ultimately, the episode celebrates the power of storytelling to connect people across personal, emotional, and historical divides, blending humor, vulnerability, and insight into a warm and engaging narrative.
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It can take up to three weeks to read the first 450 pages, as the author notes that the first half of the book is slow-building and not immediately engaging, more like 'edging' the reader than 'punching' them.
The speaker compares the length and density of a 900-page book to a physical brick, emphasizing how heavy and daunting it feels, especially when reading it in one sitting or over a long period.
Crescent City is a key example in the conversation, with the speaker noting that the book reached a satisfying 450-page mark and is now being read with anticipation, as it's part of a larger, 900-page fantasy series.
The speaker describes Sarah G. Mass’s books as deeply immersive and well-constructed, with strong world-building that requires dedication, though they note the first half may not punch the reader immediately.
The phrase 'edging me' means the first part of the book builds suspense and anticipation gradually, not delivering strong emotional or narrative punches, much like how a person might edge toward a climax.
The speaker believes such a long book would be too daunting and unmanageable, so spreading it out like 'butter' across multiple volumes makes it more accessible and engaging for readers.
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