"Love That (Nah)" (w/ Matt + Bowen)

This is an "I Heart" podcast. Guaranteed Human. It's all just a joke. What is the value of these women? I'm Bridget Armstrong, back with season two of the podcast, Curse of Miss America. We're talking to participants, whistleblowers, and people who say Miss America didn't live up to their promises. He looks at me and goes, "You don't look like you suffered in the eating disorder." I never received scholarship many to pay for my student loans. Maybe this is the meta question for the podcast. What is Miss America at this point? Listen to the Curse of Miss America on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. [MUSIC PLAYING] In October 2021, my brother David was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. A year later, he convinced me to make a podcast with him. This podcast-- My biggest fear is that I am afraid of being forgotten. My brother David is the story of the last chapter of my brother's life. It's weird and messy and vulnerable. And I'm going to share all of it with you. OK, so here we go. Listen to my brother David on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody. It's me, Matt, and my tour is on sale now. This time, it's really Christmas. You can go to www.MattRoger'sOfficial.com. Podcasts are a visual medium. If you're not watching me right now, I am holding in my hands my vinyl. It's called "Have You Heard Of Christmas?" The answer to that question is coming. At this time, it's really Christmas. I'm playing all over the country and in London and in Canada. That makes it a world tour. Harry Styles, you're on "Burn Notice." I'll see you soon. [MUSIC PLAYING] Grand Theft Auto 6 is coming out. I will say this. I kind of have always loved Grand Theft Auto. This is-- I kind of love being a little bad boy on the streets. It's Bonnie and Clyde. You play a couple. What? What? You switch between the woman and the man. Can I be the woman the whole time? I think so. God, I play a woman. Can't play a man. I play a man every day of my life. I'm in here, first person. But you're going to like this guy, because you can make him work out and make him look really hot and you see him make it. OK, that's cool. Look, man. Oh, I see him. Oh, my. Bowen, look over there. Is that culture? Yes, it is. Wow. Let's call Jodie Stass. Ding dong, last culture east is calling. Welcome to the safe space. This is a safe space, a time capsule, if you will, of the moments right before midterm election results come in. This is Tuesday, November 3rd, in the day. We simply don't know anything. The last piece of transmission, image-wise we have, is Haley Stevens showing up to vote in a giant straw hat. She's arrived to vote in Michigan in a sort of huge like straw, but it's sort of shaped like Carmen San Diego, which, first of all, before we dig in, let's just give it up for Carmen San Diego, for what she did. This woman would straight up steal the Sphinx, right from under our noses. She would go and steal the space needle. Did she have a lasso, or am I just picturing her with one? I think with the hat, mentally, you want to place a lasso with it, because it's cowboy. Because she kind of just stood with her hands on her hips and served all around the world. Oh my god, there's, I know too much Carmen San Diego lore. Go on. How do you know too much? I was a big fan of hers. I was a big fan of the games. I played most of them in my developmental period when it was from the learning company. There's Carmen San Diego, there's we're in the USA, we're in the world, of course. We're in time, which is incredible. I still know all the history I learned. I think I also have we're in time. Did she go back to see the invention of the printing press? You literally talked to Mr. Gutenberg himself? Yeah, you do. Johan. The first one was you talked to Queen Hubschitz that the second one is you talked to. You're a gargarian? Who went to space? You're a gargarian is the last mission. Okay, yeah. Because that's the 80s. This is crazy. These are the secretaries in our mind finding the file cabinets. No, the second mission is that you go because someone has stolen. One of Carmen San Diego's cronies has stolen. You know, a Da Vinci thing? Well, Da Vinci isn't it, but the second one is someone stole the tale of Genji, the first novel of a ever written in Japan. What? Yes, I remember this. And you had to go through silkworms, right? Well, that was Kublai Khan and Marco Polo. That was you being like there for the Silk Road. Yes. Like those games, that game gagged me when. No, and literally taught the girls. You know what I was gonna ask? I was gonna ask who wins in a fight to the death? Carmen San Diego or Lara Croft? Carmen can do things that Lara fucking wishes. Well, she's learned. Carmen is, well, okay, so then there's those games and then there's Carmen San Diego's. Carmen San Diego and the treasures of time or some end of the treasures of. Wow, you really stand. Where you play as two Acme agents. One of them is Jewels. She was a Conti Asian in a pixie cut with glasses, with like wire and like lesbian, like sort of like Zillennial, like Genji glasses, this came out like 2004. But she and Carmen used to be partners. You know what that means? Lesbian, lovers. Well, lovers for sure. There was that imply, but it was for kids that they couldn't go all the way there. Right, right, right. It was implied. It was implied. I feel like you can project a queerness onto it, but Carmen, but there's the story, the backstory of Carmen, what used to be an Acme agent. And of course, you can forget Lenthig Penn, the iconic Lenthig Penn, who was chief of Acme. Oh my god, Lenthig Penn. Lenthig Penn, like one of the great actors down, like Shakespeare. Yeah. Then PB, then like found her way into the Carmen San Diego universe, when she was the host of the TV show. Yes, she was. But of PBS, a PBS legend, Lenthig Penn. And then she was in the games. She was in, where in time is Carmen San Diego. Oh my god, I just love Carmen. Wasn't there supposed to be a Carmen San Diego film? Or show or something like that? Like I remember hearing years ago that like, they were developing something. Like Gina Rodriguez was doing it. Yes. And then, and then years ago, I think also maybe this is just a world where people said shit online and whatever. Well, we're in that world now. I know what was I, and I don't think this is right. But it was like Angelina Jolie is going to play Carmen San Diego. Well, that's you kind of linking the Lara Croix. There was a time in our lie in our history, in our pop culture history, when Angelina Jolie was attached to play everyone in every film. Angelina Jolie will play Cleopatra. Angelina Jolie will play Carmen San Diego. Now it's Scarlett Johansson. Scarlett Johansson is attached to be in the Tower of Terror movie. Scarlett Johansson is going to do this. It's like, well, they can't all do it all. And should they? Scarlett, Scarlett Johansson. I would agree. And it was in a Ritz commercial with her. Oh yeah. Ritz. See, I mean. Ritz celebrates queer voices. Do you love Ritz? I love Ritz. Yeah. It is the thing I'm sure to buy for a vacation, a group vacations. You put a little cheese on it. Doesn't need the cheese, babe. Buttery enough. I itself. I, I, I, Ritz raw. I think that you might be missing out on the experience of, and I'm not saying that what you're doing is a good lack in my Ritz experience. So go on. I'm just saying that when I buy a pound of American cheese, pound, I, I am, you know, I'm that person. Like in my 20s, like living in the building, the fuck going into the deli and being like, I guess I'll just have a pound of American cheese. No, like, down. And I would just eat the cheese. You know, my sister kind of influenced me in a big way. Like right as we were going home for the holidays from college, she'd be like, I'm getting a block of white cheddar, thin cut at the deli, with Genoa. Uh, no, not Genoa. Genoa, Genoa, Genoa, Genoa, Genoa, Salami, and just boom, boom, boom, and then I'd be, I'd be posted up at home watching SVU eating Salami and white American cheese. God, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just being a stoner. Why you are? No, not anymore. You gave it up? I can't. While I'm, while I'm doing Broadway, I, Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. It's too much. I, I, I, I, I, I'd, I'd toke to little toke. I went to, um, I went to the American ballet theater, Fall Gala. Fabulous. Honoring Cynthia Arevo. That's so Batman coded. I know. It really was. It was very like, I like a villains in the burst from the ceiling. Yeah. I remember that theme. I missed that Batman theme so bad. Yeah. Is that a West era? No. This is the Shumaker. Oh, Shumaker. Shumaker. Error. Loved that theme. I love, those are my favorite Batman movies. I know. The like fucking stupid, swishy cape cartoons, zoom in on the nipple, zoom in on Robyn's ass. Oh my god. This is Silverstone coming in and be like Uncle Alfred. It's Barbara. It's me. Barbara. - That's a great Alicia. - And she, I don't know what was going on during the making of that film, but. - What do you, what do you have to do? - She had been better. - That's okay. - Yeah. - They had all the actors had been better. - Uma. - Uma was, Uma was best. - Uma, like. - Arnold was really good too. I'll give it up to her. - I think Arnold gave it. - Arnold's really good. - Like he gave you exactly what Arnold Schwarzenegger needed to give us, Mr. Freeze. - Yes. - Uma actually gave one of the better comic book movie performances. - As I told Lady Freeze when I pulled her plug. - This is the one woman show. - Fabulous. - I, I die for Uma. - She's, it's so funny, out of all like the modern Batman interpretation. Like she gave the most Earth a cat. Even though that's poison ivy. - Yeah, I think that was like part of her poison ivy. And what is Robin say to her when he like pulls the lips off? - Rubber lips are on me. - Rump to your charms. - And she goes. And she does what I always want to do in the movie, which is and push someone down a step. - Oh god. - A step. - Come on, Bane darling. - Yeah. - All I want to do is be poison ivy. It's the best state of being. - Bane in that movie was the biggest timber we've ever gone. - It wasn't crazy about Bane. - Well, the biggest timber in all of cinema is Cronk from Ember's New Groove. - Is he the biggest timber in all of the cinemas? - I think Patrick Warburton gives has played so many great hymbos. - He's such a hymbo in the Sauron pre-show. - Yeah. Okay, well, anything else to say about Haley Stevens? (laughing) We just kind of moved right past Haley Stevens. - Oh, I mean, look, that's, you can't be like, I surprised when someone is, you can look this up. This is kind of what I've always been saying. - We don't say. - You can look up who's bought. You can look up who has a boss. - Well, she's a particular case where it's like the most money A-pack is ever poured over. - It's like these people don't have moral convictions. - They do, that is not why she's making her decisions. If that was the reason why she'd be able to explain it to come concretely, you don't just go back on every single thing you've ever believed. - Within eight hours. - Right, I mean. - Going to sleep on October 31st, waking up on November 1st. - Yeah. - Completely flipping. And it was Anderson Cooper being like, so what changed between you going to bed and telling - Yeah. - Your colleagues that you were voting for or else I had and what changed between that and waking up and putting out that and doing the Dutch angle in your car. - And she just kept saying, I woke up feeling fresh and I just was clear headed and I wrote down. I journaled and Anderson, I haven't made up my mind but I have made it my decision. - Yeah, she really, what do you mean? - And the thing is her being like, then she came out with a statement that was like, it's sexist to say that my husband is making my decisions or that I'm going through some type of thing. It's like, I mean, it's sexist or it's like empathetic which she don't really deserve and it's kind of like, it's like, okay, let me just, I hear all the kinds like ways that you may be looking about this and don't think that. It's like, okay, we won't think that. - So the main thing, you're just a sell out. - You're just pathetic. Which everyone with a brain and eyes like kind of already knew but so many people are not thinking. Like this idea that can you imagine if she had been the nominee? And you know, she's capable of this and how close it came. And again, we don't know what happened but that's where we're at right now. Right now she's just left the polls in a huge hat. - For country, she chose country over hate. - Which one, which one. - Right. - Anyway, that's all we'll say about Haley. - It was crazy. I mean, I will say like, it's hard, this week, I have been watching only. - Political content. - News and political content and it's all going to be like not relevant by the time this comes out but I feel really good. You know, and you know, who's been so incredibly inspiring is Angie Nixon and my sister lives in Florida and my, obviously with my brother-in-law and I mean, I just love that every single time she's speaking, she's clearly so in it emotionally and there's just, there is no one who like has any stake in what she's doing except the people that she's working for. You know what I mean? And that's, you can look it up. You really can find out, it's pretty easy to find out. I mean, there's, at stocking in the capital, there's the political integrity project. These are all things that you can follow on social media that are, you know, reputable organizations that do track where people get their money and that is everything. That is everything. - Always has been. - Always will be. - How are you following the money? What, what do you mean? (laughing) How am I following the money? I mean, yeah, grass roots. - Grass roots or? - Grass roots. - The thing is I'm not gagging for traders. - Yeah, I fell off. - I'm kind of not particularly gagging for traders. - We can, should we talk? Okay, oh, someone at stage door was like, you guys need to do a Salt Lake City recap. I feel like we've done that. - Yeah, I mean, what are the thoughts about Salt Lake? I mean, I hate seeing Marion and she like miss each other. - I know. - Like it feels like. - And apparently we're recording this the day before the episode era is apparently there's a big fight between us. - That makes sense. - Those are two good friends to each other. And sometimes what happens in front trips is genuine misunderstanding. - Yeah. - And for a true friendship, I think there is potential for that to be healed. I have been waiting for them to just talk to each other and that is not happening. They're just kind of keep like, assuming some things about the other. And like when Angie was like, she was like, I'm going through so much right now, but I just don't want to tell Mary that because of what she's going through. And then they cut to Mary's confessional and all she says is I just want her to talk to me like a real person. Like I can tell she's being stupid and being silly and I don't like that. I wish she would talk to me about like real things. And so you just see them like wanting the same thing but like not. Which I think can happen in close friendships because you want to protect each other. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? It's like the last thing that you want to do is upset your close friend. I mean that's happened with us. Oh, absolutely. - Where like our problem is that something was just not said and it could have easily been said and avoided. But like things just sit and fester and then. It is hard to express things. I know that sounds silly. - What do you want to express to me? Is there anything on the emotional docket for you? - No, I just. - I feel we've been expressing. - We've been expressing. I love you so much. I feel like I've been in dialogue with you in other areas of my life where I'm looking at your writing and putting stuff in and I'm going, oh my God, Matt's so smart. Like Matt's so good at this thing and this thing and this thing. - You think that? - I always say, God, always say what a genius you are. - You've never said that before. - Talk to me about what it's like to be single and Brooklyn. (laughing) - It's fine. - Mm-hmm. - I think it's fine. Yeah, are you trying to listen to something out of me that I don't? - No, I am not. I guess my thing is I'm single in Manhattan. - Oh yeah. - And you're single in Brooklyn. - Yeah. - And I wonder if that's a show. (laughing) - I, I'm just, this is my thing. Have I been making too many excuses for it being the right time? - 'Cause I always roll out the summer because no one wants to date in the summer. - Well that's not really true. - Everyone wants to hook up and have fun. - Maybe in a certain pool of people. - And it's sure, but I feel like in general amongst like, let's say gay Brooklynites, it's like, everyone's away, you can't. It's just logistically, it's hard to like connect. - Yeah. - Like, oh I'm out of town this weekend and then you're out of town that weekend and oh man. - Well I love what you told me the other night about like, not naming any names, but like you made out with someone on the dance floor and it like pulled away. And both of you both have the same reaction which was like, nah. (laughing) I love that. You know what? Love you, but nah. Oh, yeah. (laughing) It actually, ironically it makes me more like. - Closer to them. - Or I'm just like, oh wait, I like that. - Yeah, love that. - Love that, nah. - Love that, nah. Love that we're both like, eh. But like, but wait. Love that, nah. - Tidal of that. Love that, parentheses, nah. Love that. (upbeat music) - The first thing I hate about Ulysses is they never actually tell the Turks. I'm Dave and I've been a (beep) for my life. (laughing) - In October 2021, my brother David was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. This podcast. - Okay, so here we go. - We didn't know what we were doing so. we just started recording. We discussed cancer since the radiation I lost about 10 more pounds. We fought. Yeah, pisses me off. And we talked openly about the fact that David was going to die. I am afraid of being forgotten. It's weird and messy and vulnerable and I'm gonna share all of it with you. The constant back-and-forth battle about how do I, how do I not just be alive, but I should live. Listen to my brother David on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. But more than a century, Miss America sold the country of fantasy. Well, are you ready ladies? Yeah, here we go. But over the past decade, the crown's been slipping. They said goodbye to swimsuits, now hello to lawsuits. I'm Bridget Armstrong. Last season, we took you inside the world of America's next top model. Now I'm back with season two of this podcast, Curse of Miss America, investigating the rise, fall, and uncertain future of one of America's most iconic institutions. The Miss America Patent. I never received scholarship, I need to pay for my student loans. He looks and he goes, you don't look like you suffered an eating disorder. It's great, but looks too ethnic. It's a story the Miss America organization really doesn't want us to tell. 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I'm all about lying if it's something that really happened. The next time a bear is running at you, you just calmly stop what you're doing. You look the bear in the eye and you say this isn't you. Do not preserve relationships. You don't need them. You only need one thing and that's the Get Worst Podcast. What's dating in Manhattan? Dating in Manhattan is silly. I have had two things recently because I've been dating around and I've had two things recently petered out, but it's been no big deal. And I'm like in a moment right now where I'm sort of starting to like chill a little bit with all of it because I'm about to get busy for the season. That's right. But I have had the thing that I've been wanting for a long time, which is to have my apartment in New York and be able to play the field a little bit. I remember last year when I was in a relationship, I felt like I got my apartment and then I immediately got into a relationship and I was excited about being in it, but I also was mourning a little bit. It would have been fun to be single. It would have been fun to go out and do whatever, but I kind of just told myself like I have a good situation and I like being in it. And so now that that's like petered out in like a natural way, I'm now kind of like, you know, I'm, I'm, you know, I found out that we're the same age as the sex and the city women when the show started. That's fabulous. I know. We have six more years. It actually made me, it made me, and we have six more years into a world too old for the industry. It actually made me feel young. Does that feel, does that make sense? Totally. Because it's like, I feel like you watch TV now and like, do you ever watch a show and it's people in college and you're like, these people are older than me. Like just your natural thing is to be like, I'm watching people in college. They're old. Like Jared has been rewatching Felicity. Right. And it's like, you watch Felicity and you're like, oh my god, they're in college. They're like doing it. But they're, they're acting, they're behaving like Gen Xers. Exactly. Like it's like, it's right. But also, I guess what I mean is like sometimes I watch TV now and I'll be watching it from a certain point of view. And then they'll say their age. And I'm like, oh my god, the people in this show are nine years younger than me. Oh, I might not be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That happened with adults where I'm like, right, this is not I'm officially not in the sort of zone of the show narratively. And that's and it was great. Well, it's also, it's kind of liberating. You know how they say like the 18 to 35 demographic? We're out of that. That's scary to be out of that. We're still in 18 to 49. It's okay. Right. Okay. It's 18 to 49, right? That's like 18 to 35 is maybe another is another breakdown of that. You know what? A lot of demographic quizzes end at 35, right? Which makes you feel very much older than 35 when you're 36. Yes. Yeah. And you're not even 36 yet. I will be by the time this episode comes. Oh my gosh. Yes. Birthday week. You're so low key about it. I don't care for my birthday. I knew that about you. Okay. So I'm just going to reveal something to you. I was group texted by one Michelle Kong to me and Jared Frieder. Yes. And she said, you know, birthdays, birthdays, Bowen is coming up. Bowen's birthday is coming up. And she didn't believe when you guys were like, he doesn't. Well, no, and she was like, maybe we'll do like some sort of surprise thing. And I was like, I don't think he like loves surprises. No. And and Jared goes, well, yeah, maybe we can do something because he's always been working. And I just said, I would argue that he's working now. I would throw out that Bowen Yang is currently employed. No, please. You don't want to do anything. No. What about something just like small with me? What if we come up? I would play video games, you're playing them hard. This is a great segue into huge development. Yeah. Which is what you told me yesterday. I was going to use it as a surprise for this episode. And then I was like, stop centering yourself. Like stop eventizing the fact that you like did the bare minimum. I got to switch to thank you guys so much. I actually went into the best by itself. Amazing brick and mortar. I felt like I was I felt like I was looking into the best by Union Square. Wow. Yeah. Oh my god. There was a silent rave across the street. Like I was going to go by the compact disc of Rihanna's. Literally, like I was like back in time in the best by everyone in there. Amazing. Uh-huh. Like so happy. Wanted to help me. Best by lives in like a parallel timeline. We're like they live in a timeline with pinkberry. It's like it throw you guys back. I am so excited about big fro you. Do you remember the vibes and the prestige and the sheikness around the Saint Marks pinkberry in 2008? Well, yes. And I know you guys what you want to do dorm like floor field trips there to pinkberry. Yeah. But then it got it got sort of fucked over by say it with me. 16 handles. When 16 handles came on the scene, New York changed. And I hate a pun name. I didn't. But you know what, but you know what I love? 16 flavors. That's a lot of flavors. Self-serve. 16 flavors. The environment, the community-based environment in a 16 handles is not one that you were getting at pinkberry and also pinkberry sort of, you know, also very attached to the tabloid culture at the time of the arts because I feel like- It was like Perez Hilton. It was always like Perez Hilton reports that like Lindsay Lohan was seen at a pinkberry like flipping off the paparazzi. It was like so pinkberry had a very it's like stamped in time in a way that at least you know at that moment like other fro you places were able to come in and start to take the mantle. There was red mango. Red mango was good. Red mango was good. While we're talking about all these like places that we could go to when we were in college. New York and college. Did you ever order from smack? I cannot believe you just said smack. Smack slapped. S apostrophe M-A-C. Just smack and cheese. It was like but it was so many. It was different kinds of mac and cheese. I would get of course buffalo sauce blue cheese crumbles. Yes. So good. I am hungry now. Wait. Literally. Oh my god. Smack was everything. Smack was on what like 10th or 9th? It was right by, you know where it was right by, which still stands. Sundays and cones. Sundays and cones. Sundays and cones. I was with someone the other day, had a solo and we drove past on the way to the haunted house. [BLANK_AUDIO] - You have to talk about this. - Okay, yeah, I'll talk about that. - Blood manor. - On the way to Blood Manor, after a two-show Sunday, we were driving down Broadway, downtown. To see Cozy Supernburger closed is. - It's so hard. - It's so devastating. - I know, especially in this time when we're without Vapiano or without Cozy Supernburger, where-- - Oh my God, wait, you mean-- (sighs) I saw this too, the diner. - The diner. - The next detiche. That really sucked. - It's so sad. - That was sad, because the same guys had been working there for like 20 years. - Exactly. - And that was where I had my immediate heel turn from deep depression after graduating, listening to school in life, I Beyonce. - At the Cozy Supernburger. - It was walking past the Cozy Supernburger, where I was like, I guess I'm moving home and I guess my life is over and I guess I'm not gonna amount to anything. Stop living in regret, baby, it's not over yet. Beyonce got me together. That is literally why I will always be New Yorkers. - Oh yeah. - Because every street corner has something like that. - Every memory, a street corner. - I mean, when I came back to New York after being away during the pandemic, it was raining and I walked around and it was so giving as if we never said goodbye. Every single street corner, I was like, made out with that random guy here, had a fight with my friend here, lived there, also lived there, worked there, did a weird random study at NYU, like medical thing for $30 bucks there. Like it was just so many different stupid little memories. And then they take away the Cozy Supernburger where Bowen Yang listen to school in life. - It's so sad. - It's so sad. - But you know, this is what city living is, you watch a change. - I mean, yeah, I guess. It is, and then it's so, those little places that are still there, like it is like a warm little hug. - I think so. But you thought I was talking about Cozy, COSI. - I thought you were making a joke like the way we miss like Vapiano, even though it's a chain. I thought we were talking about COSI. - No, no, no. - But you literally meant Cozy Supernburger. - I also miss Cozy. - Yeah. - 'Cause they had great sandwiches, they had great paninis there. I miss. Oh my God, what was that yellow place that had soup? - Yellow place that had soup. - It had yellow onings that were at multiple locations. It was. - Melissa. - Huh? - Limonada. - No, Melissa, do you remember on eighth street? So like pass, so there's no more familiar pizza there, but like if you would walk across the street, oh my God, anyway. - Dojo. - Not dojo. - Oh, I love to dojo. - Cafetasia. - Cafetasia's gone too. - I love it. - Cafetasia has been gone. - I love it. - It's all gone. It's all gone. Do you guys know Cafetasia? We all, Cafetasia was really good ties. - What's the one? - It was good. Dojo was hard to lose. - Dojo was hard to lose. - I went on dates at Toad. What? - You told your story about David Accomany at Dojo. - Dojo, yes. And then there was another one. Brad's? - Brad's. We would go there after Popper Lad. - Brad's, we would go to all the time that was by Tish. It was on like, it was on my- - It was like two blocks down from like, Downstein or whatever. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I went on dates at Brad's. I took a guy for drinks at Brad's who was like, six or seven years older than me. And I showed up, he showed up in a tank top. He was like a cool, older gay guy. And I was like, I literally wore. I wore a sweater over a button down. And he walked in and I remember he just looked at me like, and he kind of laughed. And I was like, wow. I was like, oh, maybe he is making fun of me. I was like, hey, ready to be on the date, like 22. I was like, hey, I dressed up nice for a date. And he's like a cool gay guy who was like 28. And then he, she, we had such incredible sex. And it was like, I was like, wow, like, this is it. - New York. - And then we had one more date. And I think I remember he showed up in like a casual t-shirt in a backwards hat. And I was like, again, in like a full outfit. And he was like, this isn't cute anymore. It was like this person, like, doesn't know how to dress and doesn't know who he is. - And look where you are now. - I hope he's doing really well. He's a chiropractor on Instagram now. He's always going, to guys back. - Got it. - Someone said, you know how to tell, that someone is right on the edge of the manosphere as if you look at their followers and it's all chiropractor. - Because it's a pseudoscience? - No, I don't know. Let's not go there. - We don't have to go there. Like the world already has. I'm not the one calling it a pseudoscience. - No, we're certainly not the ones calling it a pseudoscience. - I would love to go. I would love to go see a chiropractor. I don't want them to fuck me up now that I just saw that. - I was over here being like, homey-op at these, is Bolshea, I'm taking wellness formula every day. Like, who am I to say? - You're pro drugs? - Pro, like pharma? - Yeah. - Um, yeah. - But just to, what if I need an Advil? I mean, there are guy, I've dated guys who are like, will each Advil takes like a liter of blood out of your stomach and I'm like, let's cool it. - Literally was one time talking to someone who was one of the crazier people I had ever talked to. And they were like, very, very, very, very, anti-any pain reliever. - Right, which was like very adjacent to them being like, blockchain, crypto, like all that, yeah. - I guess I just didn't realize how much, how many people believed that, like, you know, but also I grew up in a, in like a sort of environment where it was like, oh, give him a Z-Pack. - Right, and I grew up in an environment where it was like, we need to try this, we need to go to Chinatown and buy this herbal supplement, like the T-C-M, like, Jin Sang root. - Yeah. - Like, and did, were your headaches relieved by that stuff? - Sure. - Yeah. - I'm taking PayPal Co every day right now. - Okay. - Which is for the vocal cords. - Yeah. - Which Cynthia Rivo loves. - Which Zane loves. - Zane Malik. It was funny that you mentioned Zane because I was thinking about Sunday and Cones. - The last time I was at Sunday and Cones, I was on a date with Zane Phillips. - Oh my God, Zane. - We were on like a sweet little, like, we were shooting Fire Island date. - So cute. - And now he's on Broadway. - Well, this is the thing is like, Zane Phillips, and Matt Rogers, both Little Sweeties. - We were a showman's. - Not a showman's, 'cause it was a real thing, but we were. - They still call it a showman's, but um-- - Oh, is that what that's called? - Is that a, that's a situation trip. - I don't know about that. - Showman's is a show. - Yeah, because it's a situation-- - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - A relationship. - Of course, of course. Zane, Zane is ultimately a little sweetie. - Yeah, and he's also-- - You look at him and you go, that's pure sacs, but he's mostly-- - Well, yeah, it's always been funny with him because the thing that it's giving is so, like he-- - I know. - I will always-- - Just to read a book. - Always remember him reading a book, drinking always a hot coffee. - So cute. - Like, just sitting outside of our trailers, like he would be, I would go meet him out and we would sit on the bench and like, whatever. And like, get ready for the day and he would be drinking a hot coffee and reading the newspaper. - Ah! - He loved the crossword. Like, he was that. - He's like a cartoon, like, he's like the sleepy time bear. - Yeah, and I remember one time we were at, we were at like a bar, we were at like a teaky bar in Williamsburg. I don't know, there's probably not that many. People come up and figure out which one it was. It was like a full teaky bar in Williamsburg and he was talking, we were still getting to know each other and he was talking about theater. And he, out of nowhere, just starts performing. And I was like, because people were looking like, and it was so unlike him to do that. But that is who he is, like in his art. And so now that he's in the Fantastic Son Broadway, I can't wait to go. 'Cause I know he's like, I texted him and I was like, I just feel like this is what you've always wanted. Because it is, but yeah, no, I'm really happy for him. Other favorite NYU, before we talk about video games, other NYU, 'cause we're just on a huge channel from Best Buy. And we're gonna, I wanna get back to it. Well, Best Buy is NYU and that's a real coach at number 80. Best Buy is NYU. Except they let you go in there and use the Wi-Fi. Well, remember when I'm on one about NYU, not letting alumni use the Wi-Fi or the bathroom. It's like the amount of money that you took from us and it was taking. 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You bought physical copy of Kingdom Hearts 1 through 3. Yes, I wanted a physical copy. Just to really break it down for you. Okay. Kingdom Hearts 1 through 3. How many games do you think that is? How many games do I think Kingdom Hearts 1 through 3 is? Yes, 3. It is at least 7. And that is what I want to prepare you for. I want to prepare you for this. It is one of the most, the reason why there is an impassioned fanbase around Kingdom Hearts, besides the fact that it's a fun series of video games. It is one of the most convoluted, narratively insane things that has ever been made. So there's Kingdom Hearts 1. There is an interstitial sequel called Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories. I like that. It's sort of like Rogue One. A little bit, and that you kind of have to play that. I actually think you can skip it, but you should play that before you play Kingdom Hearts 2. So I won't skip it. I think definitively tell me what to do. I want you to get through Kingdom Hearts 1 as much as you can. That will be one of the, that is kind of the hardest game in terms of gameplay experience, it is one of the first games, 3D Action RPG games that was trying to figure out the camera system. And that is what you have historically struggled with the most, which is using the right joystick to adjust the camera. That's hard for me, but I can learn. And you will learn and you just have to be patient with it. You will get to fight alongside so many amazing people. I'm excited. So your birthday is coming up and where should I be for your birthday day? What do you want to play with me on your birthday day? I should be caught up. And can you play two players? You cannot play two players on Kingdom Hearts 2. Oh, so it will just be me watching you play. I think you and I can play. It takes two. We can do that. We can play Jared and I beat split fiction fairly recently. I think you would love that. I was so proud of you guys when I heard that. Well, we played split fiction together. We did. We did. I liked that conceptually in that game. There's lots of games like that where you and I, it's co-op. We call it the couch co-op. Yeah, and I also do like Mario Party. You love Mario Party. I think that is your anchor. You always love a cute fun whimsical little game. Yeah, I like comedy. Yeah. So that's me on a date. Someone asked me, what do you like? I like comedy and movies. I enjoy time with friends. Music sometimes. I think in that vein you would love eating. You would love sleep. I think you would love a lot of games. Doja Cat has been playing Final Fantasy 14 much like me. It's a crap, so be gorgeous. Underrated songs. So underrated. There's so many avenues to get. What's your ideal experience? You like comedy? The one you've been talking about nonstop is Kingdom Hearts 2. And so you do need to play one to get to that. And so what I looked up was it should take me about 24 to 36 hours to get through Kingdom Hearts 1. And for the amount of survivor you've watched, I think that is relatively doable. For sure. When I put my mind to it, I can waste a lot of time. That's like a season and a half of a survivor. 100%. Well, it's about two seasons of survivor. And current, and current episode order. Well, yes, because they're very long. They're very long. But yeah, I think I have time. Do I have time this week to do that? No, you're not going to finish Kingdom Hearts 1 in a weekend. It's just not that kind of game. I think what will happen is. So I have something to do after this. I'm doing the show Gaydar. Oh, so fine. And then after words, I am going to go home. And probably around that time we'll see like results start to come in. Yes. No, you're going to be glued to the TV. So yeah, I probably will. Thursday, I'm free. Okay, yes, Thursday is my midday. So that'll be my day that I really go off. Yes. All I have on Thursday is therapy. Amazing. I think you should. Gosh, what are some. Do we have any opinions from everybody in the room? Video game opinions for what match you play? I just feel like it should be like. I think you should play something girly and fun, too. I love an RPG. I love like a Faggy RPG. Like I love like Mario RPG. I love that little cloud. I just bought things over again. I think you should play. I think this is actually. So this is one of the cutest months in gaming. We have the Ocarina of Time Remake coming down. Wow, was that what you were talking about? Ocarina of Time? Is that a new one coming out? The remake of the N64 Classic, Ocarina of Time. I mean, I even played Ocarina of Time. I think you should play that. Because that was back in the day at N64. This is like what? 96, 97, where they only had like four games at the beginning. Right. And Ocarina of Time is. If you think of it like an escape room, it is you solving puzzles and dungeons trying to get to the. Let's do an escape room soon. Can we go to an escape room for your birthday? You don't want to do it. Don't have the time. Okay. We can. We can't Monday, maybe. Monday. Again, my birthday. And. You want to stay home and just have a chill day. Of course, I know. I know. Ocarina of Time, I think. Could have thought of six is coming out? That's interesting. But that's for PS5. What you can get. I will say this. This is. I kind of love being a little bad boy on the streets. Well, this is one of. You play a couple. What? I think so. I think you do have to play. The game does force you. It's open world. It's sandbox. So you do whatever you want. I am so gay guy coded. God, I play a woman. I can't play a man every day of my life. I'm in here. First person. But you're going to like this guy. Because you can go and make him work out and make him look really hot. And you see him naked. Oh, okay. That's cool. So. But there are amazing. So, you know, there's radio stations in Grand Theft Auto. Why did you drive that? You can see him naked in the trailer. And the trailer, like, pans out. You're like, "Well, there you go." Like, that's for the gays. Because there's a lot of gay guy at GTA fans. Yeah. And. The radio station hosts. Lana Del Rey. Hosts. Lana Del Rey? Robin is the host. I think Robin playing a character is hosting the dance. Alba of the dance. You know that Lana Del Rey got in the booth. They were. They invited Lana Del Rey to do a voice. And she was like, "I honestly can retire now." Oh. This is what I've been waiting for. She's always talking about me, I'm like, fuck me to death, love me until I love my style. Well, this is, there's a ton of laundromation boulevard. Her first big song was literally called video games. This is exactly what Lana's brand is. Exactly. Grand Theft Auto. Grand Theft Auto. It takes place in Vice City, which is, as you know Miami. Yeah. Like, they've basically, like, Vice City. They've made it Miami. You know what would no one would see coming from us? We do the Grand Theft Auto movie. I have ideas. I bet. There was a game for Game Boy Advance, or a DS called the Grand Theft Auto Chinatown Wars. What? And it was one of the highest-rated Grand Theft Auto games, very underrated people, sleep on it. What do you think is the best video game of all time? You say, in terms of the game, I think, which I think you would, I think you should play awkward of time and breath of the wild, tears of the Kingdom has made me sob at the airport when I first saw it. Really? It's just the most beautiful ending. 'Cause Link comes out. Yeah. Is he mute? He goes, "Heh. Heh. Heh." Well, I know that. So, he's never mixed sounds. He's never spoken in any of the games. Yeah. Remember that one? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Listen. Meanwhile, Peach is like, "Oh! Oh! Oh!" There's a Peach. You would love the Peach game. Oh, there is? There's a Princess Peach. And the whole thing is that she's putting on a performance, a play. And she, you go through different worlds because it's all theater. She acts? She's an actress. You would love this game. Okay. Add that. We found it. That's what you should play. Okay. Peach. What's the name of the game? It's called Peach Showtime or something. Peach Showtime? You're gonna love it. I'll buy you that for my birthday. Peach Showtime. Peach Showtime. Is she good? Is she down to it? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You love Peach. You can pair her to a Pop Girl or an actress. Sabrina Carpenter. Love her. I think Peach is giving Sabrina. Okay. And then, fun, girly, faggy game for you. I don't know. I think it's a great thing. I think I have a good, I have a good. But Kingdom Hearts is literally like, it's so you. Yeah. And like, I mean, it's just, it's crazy. It's just go with it. It's camp. I can't wait. My plan today is to check in with what's happening, as to not overwhelm myself. You know what? I've traditionally done on the midterms and I am a superstitious person. So I've kinda, it went well and went, do you remember the year? I believe it was, actually it was 2018. Blue wave. Blue wave. I had drank a bottle of red wine in my tiny, tiny green point apartment on Box Street, my box on box. And I took a bottle of red wine to the face because it looked like it was going in a bad direction. Woke up. Very hungover because I had drank a bottle or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the time when I could do that and they'll see you elected. She knocked down the house. Cory Bush, we still, I hope she runs every time. Cory, we're gonna get you by. It's not okay what they did. No, it's not. Anyway, so now I thought to myself like, maybe I should buy a bottle of red wine for tonight's midterms. But I don't drink like that by myself anymore. No, no, you can't. You're talking about something that was eight years ago. Melissa won't even let me get a bar cart as decoration. She says, we don't drink in the house. That's my impression of her. I will say, I don't, I, I never touched my bar, bar carts also feel very ten years ago. I met Lacey Schobert. Wow. Loved her. She was so sweet and so hallmarked. Of course. So she has a hallmark movie coming out. Yes. They shot it in Disney World and she lived at the Adam the Kingdom Lodge for a month. You are kidding me. Can you just imagine like, Lacey Schobert, delightful, like waking up, like looking at the window. Oh, her friends, the giraffes. Then she goes to set, which is at Epcot. It's called like a hallmark, it's a hallmark film and it's like, not this, but it's like a Disney dream wish. You know something, but it's a hallmark romantic comedy starring Lacey in Disney World. You know my parents were also huge fans of Party of Five. Oh my God. Which was Lacey's big break. Yes. I remember. It was the first show that would come on and my parents would like send me out. They're like, you can't be here for this. Wow. Like, this is Party of Five. This is the real shit. Oh my God. The Fox, Nev Campbell, Lacey Schobert, and then I'm sure two others because it was a part of you. Do you ever love Hugh it? No, no, no. Was Jennifer Love Hugh a Party of Five? Yeah. Yes. This was a big group. This was stacked. And as we've said before, Mean Girls does not work without that Gretchen performance. No, I told her. Yeah. I was like, well, I didn't tell her that way, but I was like, my favorite. I was like, I think if you really asked Millennial women, like how much of the Stab, Caesar, Monologue, do you know? We all know a lot more. Oh yeah. I mean, just. Maybe not right now, but I'm trying to, I feel like I just set us up to know it, but I don't. Really? It's just how to Caesar. And why did I just just. It's just Cue the Caesar. I mean, I did just just. I mean, I did become okay for Caesar to become the boss of everybody, huh? Because that's not what we're talking about. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking to Stab Caesar. I mean, just the line read on. We want you to sit with us every different rest of the week. So then Lacey sells me, oh my gosh, she set all this on the show, but I don't know what they'll keep. I'm going to say it. She goes, the Caesar Monologue was my audition monologue, so I'll remember it forever. And I was like, of course, that was the audition monologue. Makes perfect sense. Yeah. Perfect sense. It's so interesting to watch iconic performances of people that like had a breakout role and think what was the audition scene, like the most famous, one of the more famous audition scenes is the Notebook, not just Rachel McAdams slaying it, but also Britney Spears' newest. Yes. Britney was really good. She was great. She was so fucking good. She. She. Britney had sort of had that pop star thing, which they all kind of have across the board, which is a little bit of too much awareness of like, I'm a pop star and I'm pretty. But like, I think, I think had she got like, they all are such incredible magnetic performers anyway. Like, when they really break it down, they can find. Oh, yeah. But it's like, all pop stars, like, it's hard for them to shed that last. That last. That last video. That last video. Yeah, yeah. Did you see. Did you see San help? No. You have to. I mean, I love him, too. Well, they're both incredible. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. It's not scary. It's basically like an episode of Survivor. Yeah. And also, like, I don't mind Gore when it's funny. Yeah. And there's not even that much Gore. It's. You know what I realized? If for me, it's just like realistic brutal violence and stuff that feels like needlessly cruel. It's not needless. That's what I don't like. But like, I can. I mean, I love the substance. The first thing I hate about Ulysses is they never actually tell the Turks. I'm Dave, and I've been a--for my life. In October 2021, my brother, David, was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. This podcast. Okay, so here we go. We didn't know what we were doing, so we just started recording. We discussed cancer. Since the radiation I lost about 10 more pounds. We fought. Yeah, this is me off. My brother, David, is the story of the last chapter of my brother's life. It's weird, and messy, and vulnerable, and I'm gonna share all of it with you. The constant back and forth battle about how do I--how do I not just be alive, but actually live. Listen to my brother, David, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For more than a century, Miss America sold the country of fantasy. Okay, here we go. They said, goodbye to swimsuits. Now, hello to lawsuits. The Miss America pageant. I never received a scholarship I need to pay for my student loans. He looks at me and goes, "You don't look like you suffered in the eating disorder." It's great, but looks too ethnic. An exploitation of our Miss America's is treated by the Miss America organization. as an attack on Miss America itself. Listen to the Curse of Miss America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. - There are thousands of podcasts that can tell you how to better yourself. So if you're interested in getting thinner, going to therapy, starting peptide, setting boundaries, taking supplements, making you better getting closer, then I would humbly recommend other podcasts. But if you're interested in blackmail, love, bombing, cloning yourself, or getting revenge, then we've got a little something, something for a dastardly individual like you. Fake a back injury. - Kill 'em. - Kill 'em. - Kill 'em with a gun. - Listen, it's already over. - The next time a bear is running at you, you just calmly stop what you're doing, you look the bear in the eye, and you say this isn't you. - Do not preserve relationships. You don't need them. - Listening to Get Worse with Kyle Pru on the IHR Radio App Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. - The thing that I wish we could have in video game culture at my last thought, and I meant to bring this up when Patty Harrison was on, we just recorded our Christmas episode with Patty Harrison. It's not gonna come out for another month and a half, but it was what worked. - We got Patty and I was like, that should be Christmas episode. - That is, and it was a reader, it was perfect. - Yeah. - But there used to be a time in video games when they were more tied in with TV shows and films, right? Like, remember there would be five different games for eTerry Potter movie based on the console? - Yeah. - There used to be, and I wish they would bring this back, the Grey's Anatomy video game. - What? - Where you would do like, you would like make, it would be like dating simulator, and then you would do surgery. - Oh, that's funny. Like, we just don't have that anymore. Like, we don't have like, time. - I love the thing that they tied in how much dating it was. - Yeah. - I'll never forget watching that show with my mother when I was like 15, and her, she, she, she's like, this is my mom watching Grey's Anatomy. - It's bassy. - You know what, I don't like this show. - This one's dating, that one, that one's now dating, this one, it's ridiculous. She was just dating that one, and now he's with her? It's ridiculous. I just wanna see them do the doctor. I just, I just don't believe it, it's only sex and kissing. You know, I'm trying to watch this with my son and my daughter. And it's a lot of sex and kissing. - Yeah. - Forget about when Arizona and Cali kissed. She goes, "Oh my God." She was just with him. She was just with that one. I don't care, I'm just saying, she was just with that one. - She didn't feel anything when Cali and Dr. Han kissed? - No, at that point we had, Arizona came in-- - Cali and Dr. Han, we are already in the new liberal world. - Arizona, Arizona came on after Dr. Han. - You're so right. - No, you know what, I think it was, it was a lot of new things to explain to her children. - Right. - And I think what my mom wanted was just, you know my mom, well, quote unquote, her show was desperate housewives. - That wasn't racy at all. - No, and then I took it away from her immediately. There was one episode of desperate housewives. My mom declared it as her show. I watched one episode of it. It became my entire personality. There was no room for my mother. - That's right. - I was like, "No, this is my show." She was like, "It can be our show." - I was like, "Fine." - I'm ready to go back to scripted. 'Cause I think I'm hitting a wall with the unscripted stuff. - What if we did a desperate housewives rewatch? You don't have time for that, I'm sorry. - I do. I would, you don't want to. - I think what you'd do, like, - Jared is watching Felicity for the first time and that's actually a really interesting idea. - I would fucking, I would do desperate housewives. What if it was like. - I'll fuck you, I would do desperate housewives. - Oh yeah. - I'll fuck you. - Yeah, desperate housewives, okay, sure. 'Cause it's such an important show. - Do you know, speaking of important, I went to the top of the Empire State Building. - Oh my god, tell me, scary and high. - So scary. - Do you know what gave me a lot of strength? Right outside before you go in, there's a picture of, literally, when she was the New York City mascot, 2015 Taylor Swift with the Bob, the 1989 Bob in the white cocktail dress, leaning over the side of the sunglasses, and I just started to hear, "Welcome to New York!" And it gave me the courage. I was like, "Thanks, Taylor." - Specifically that Taylor. - One of the great. - That's such a Taylor. That song blasts throughout Broadway every single night on the Petty Cubs. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause they are blasting "Welcome to New York" and in the Empire State of mind. - Yeah. - On every Petty Cubs in the city in Times Square. - Yeah. - That is, I have an intimate relationship with that song at the moment. - You know what? Top five, 'cause I think it's time to do this. Top five, did my phone die? No, it didn't. Top five, New York songs, locationally. Like for you, school and life. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - School and life in front of Closie Superburger. - Well, that's already my number one, but I'll start, I'll start at, oh my God, this is dark, speaking of election day. - Okay. - We, Populat, our sketch group, was scheduled to do a show at Littlefield on, November, whatever day it was, election day 2016. - I think it was November 6th, 2016. - Fourth or something. I am finishing up work. I had voted early that day or had early voted. I'm stomping over to the Canal Street ACE stop, to take the ACE into Brooklyn to go to Littlefield. I'm blasting 80s Mercedes by Miran Morris. 'Cause I was like, for some reason that was like, like I like a song about being a woman. - Yup. (laughing) ♪ I'm a 90s baby in my 80s Mercedes ♪ - To say nothing of the song that we performed on stage at Littlefield that night, as Michigan was going rad, which was, we had written, Tessa Scarra had brought a song in called, "A woman will be president." And it was just us singing, ♪ A woman will be president ♪ And then it's just, Michigan. It's right, and we were like, and then literally just people leaving as we were singing. It was horrible. It was literally the end. That was the end in that moment of like, our positive liberal culture. ♪ Us singing a woman will be president ♪ - Ernest Shingo's rep. - Ernest Shingo's song that we wrote called "A woman will be president." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's accountability culture right there. We were devastated. And just seeing our friends that had been like, so sure that it couldn't happen, that was horrible. - That's my number five. - Okay, all right. I'm gonna say, the song that I used to listen to before all my like, like JFL showcases and all my like, back in the day, this is like back in like 2016, 2017 doing all that. Any addition that I had on stage, which were happening a lot at that time, I would listen to Demi Lovato, Confident. ♪ What's wrong with being ♪ ♪ What's wrong with being ♪ ♪ What's wrong with being ♪ ♪ God, but it oh ♪ - The really good. And it gave you, I loved it, I loved the horns. (imitating horn) - Buh, it was good. - Love that. - That was my number four. - Number three, it had just come out that week. It was the same week as my first SNL screen test, in August of 2017. - Mm. - I don't want it at all by Kim Petrus. - Love, oh, that's a good Kim Petrus fall. - Like, what is this girl? - Yes. - She's trans. Okay, and this is giving like Paraselt, and then literally Paraselt is in the music video. - Yeah, she was so, that run of singles that she was really singing at that time, like "Heart to break." Like, oh, that was, that was, oh my God, there were so many good ones. - Hellside boys. - Hellside boys, I love. - What's the one? - You think about me. - Um. ♪ Do me, do me, do me like that ♪ ♪ Do me, do me, do me like that ♪ - I mean, you know, Dr. Luga, but it's a tough one. - It's a tough one, but that song, and I got to, you know, that is, and I, it's just like, and I'm just, yeah. I just, I just love that like, Kim is like a part of that, like I was sitting in Leslie Jones's dressing room, preparing for my SNL screen test, just like putting in my headphones, 'cause this year's they made it, told me buy a pair of noise canceling headphones, you're gonna hear the other people, and their dressing room's running their auditions. It's gonna drive you crazy. Buy a pair of noise canceling headphones, just like make a playlist for like the songs that will like get you pussed. and I just kept listening to it, I didn't want it at all. - Yeah. - So I see that with 30 rock, okay, number two. - Number two. - Every night at the Gershwin Theater, defying gravity, of course. It is sung so well by Alphaba. Alphaba plays the role of an outcast woman from Oz and they made it into a film. - Two films. - A lot of people debate, debate whether or not it should be two films. - Oh right. - I am firmly on the side of the creators of the film, the cast, who I'll say it should have been two films. I agree. I think defying gravity is meant to bring a curtain down and it certainly does every night at the Gershwin. And my remember when I saw Wicked, I've seen it twice. And the first time was, of course, when I was 16 years old when the Alphaba marked it, we got the understudy for Alphaba during a matinee. And I've waited years to see Wicked. I'm so closeted, so gay beyond sitting in the chair, ready outside my, like leaping out of my seat during defying gravity, 'cause it's gonna happen. Like we're gonna hear it, it's amazing. My aunt's with me, like we're watching it. And Alphaba just goes, ♪ And nobody in all of us ♪ No wizard that there, et cetera. and then the final note, which is a battle cry, she went, ♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, and then they go, "Da!" and I'm like sitting in my seat like, "The fuck is this?" - Ariana crying laughing. (laughing) - Jonathan Bailey going, "That's not right." - And we do sympathize with the fact that it was an understudy going on. - Yeah, but you know that the iconic story of the understudy going on. - Is the girl. - Brandy Shavon Massey. - Brandy Shavon Massey, there is a clip of a, she, I believe she was a swing or a stand by or something. - She went on for Elphaba one time. There is a video of it. You just, we can't do it. - One of the first black Elphabets. - Yes, and it was, it's honestly my favorite defying gravity ever. - It's incredible. - She ripped her throat in half, singing that song. I don't understand how she did the same thing at the show. (laughing) - Works. - So if you can't find me, look, look to the western sky. - It's, find me, as she goes crazy on the moon. - To find me, it's the best, and Brandy was nominated for one of the first culture awards. - Yes, yes. - So we pay respects. - No, I can't even tell you like, I think it ruined it for me because I watched the YouTube clip of it early because I would, of course, like one of the first things you find as a little gay boy on YouTube is-- - It's not a tutorial, you book it, yeah. - Just a string out of Elphabets screaming that note, and when I heard her do that, I was like, she's the only one that gets it. - She's the only one. - She is the only one that gets it. - Yep. So that's number two. - Yeah. - Every night at the girlish wind-- - Divine gravity. - And number one is-- - School of life. - School of life. - Bowen Yang outside the cozy super burger. - It was, and I just wanted to-- - It was that degree. - I want to bring my sister, I want to bring my sister into this, the thing that kept me in New York in the year 2012. School of life by Beyoncé, and then about a block over, Matt Rodders inviting me for lunch at Vapeano to ask if I wanted to join his sketch group. - And then we did a show based on life as but a dream. - We did do a show based on life as but a dream. - Yeah. - The HBO. Yeah, 'cause where Matt was, Matt, I just remember you saying, why did God give me this talent? - Why did God give me this life? - Give me this life. - Why did God give me these talents? - These talents, sometimes it's overwhelming. - But-- - You still feel that way. God gave you a lot of talents. ♪ Why did God give me these gifts? ♪ ♪ Why did God give me these talents? ♪ - Write the rest of the song at home. - Until then, this has been another amazing culture. - Lots of culture, it's a podcast. - The cultureists. - We still are campaigning for a Golden Globe. - Come on, nobody's doing it like us. - I've been keeping my eye on the other podcasts that are in contention. I saw that, call her daddy head on. - Jennifer Lawrence. - Oh yeah. - She stole her from us. - Oh, right, I don't see it. - So that was theft. - So she's a thief. - That was our friend. Now we see her hanging out with Alex. - Oh, it's okay. - Well, anything else to say? - No. Later. (laughing) - "Loss Culture East" is the production by Will Ferrell's big money players in my heart radio podcasts. - Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Executive produced by Anna Hosniay and produced by Becca Ramos, edited by Hot Dog Sandwich. 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