Love Island Begins with Cat Cohen | 82

We've got a great show today. Oh, we've got a lot to talk about. We are doing a little bit of queening out. We're doing queening out. I've always said that about us. We have comedian, actress, icon, Kat Cohen coming soon in about five minutes. Scroll if you want to skip us, but you better not. We're talking all things. We talk Summer House. We're talking Love Island USA. Love Island USA. We're talking about Kat's new show, Broad Strokes. Yeah, and a little musical theater. If you're a musical theater kid, this is an ep for you. Every ep is with us. That's true. We give them a show, a little song and a little dance. But I guess before we get into all that, you know, every time that I see Hunter Biden tweet, I think of you. Did you see that tweet? I reposted it on my story that Hunter Biden gave up crack. His release Twitter engagement was actually the best drug. Can we say crack early in the episode? Do you think? I cracked my phone. I don't know. I'm looking forward to cracking up. Y'all listen to this podcast right now. But I feel like there's been so many things happening online actually this weekend away where I'm like, my cup runneth over. Yes, agree. One of those things is how I can never listen to a Michael Jackson song in the same way again. Why? Yeah. You know why. There's actually a few reasons I thought why, but now I know why. Here's your PSA. I was in Paris and I had a cab driver and this man told me, you look like Michael Jackson. And I said, what? And he said, you resemble Michael Jackson. I said, what? He said, yeah, you know, Janet Jackson. I like, yeah, they're related. Yeah. So are you. And you think that's the worst part of the story? No, I made a viral to talk about it, brag. And the comments said, yeah, you do look like Michael Jackson. Have, have a thousand people ever told you like Michael Jackson in the nose and in the lips and the nose and the lips. There's nowhere for me to go. That's safe in this room right now. Nowhere for me to go. Actually, I'm just like, I hate this. Take top back anyway. I'm closing it. No, let's ban it. Yeah. And it now bring back the band. No Hunter earnestly text me like, wait, it's like, do you see it? Or like, I'm just, cause I'm getting confused. And I'm like, baby, you don't look like my, and then I sent you that one photo and you said, no, wait now. And actually in this photo, I do see it and I'm not proud of it. We got to share the photo. The audience was you tell us they're like, we already told her. No, that's crazy. She's not listening. That was a lashing occurred. I'm so sorry. This is like when I told you, you look like Bernie Mac in that one photo and I did though. I, we got that, this carousel promo size about to hit that picture. And me as a child looking literally, it's actually the craziest thing because people don't believe me when I say like, I was like a late bloomer. Like I used to have your dad's face. I have, I used to have my dad's face thing. God, I found my mother's, but people don't believe me. And then I tell them about the time that Hunter was like, saw this one photo of me on in the Bahamas. And I was fitted. I thought I was looking like Raven Simone. That's what I thought I was giving. And Hunter looks at and goes, why do you look like Bernie Mac? But you did. And that's just a smile. I mean, I'm like that. So that's a king of comedy right there. Which way should I go? Are you joking brother? And then I looked at the photo and I said, well, yes. So Hunter does just have a pair of two eyes and yeah, we wouldn't be this funny though. If we weren't cute. You're really cute. Nerdy kid though. Why was she like a beautiful child? I was a beautiful baby. It was eight and about 14 that things went a little bit. That's where the Bernie Mac pic was. That's where I developed a personality through those years. I was like, I'm gonna be funny if I got nothing else, I'm leaving here with something. But anyway, so yeah, we were trauma bonded. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know who else has trauma bonded? Who? The entire city of New York, all five boroughs, Nick's in how many four? And I held up a three and a four. Wait. And you know, Lewis was trying to teach me that. I, yeah, yeah, I got a little too gay with it. Just here's the thing. I've been a lifelong Knicks fan and you're a bandwagoner. Of course. Batty, you love batty bandwagon. You love bandwagoning. I, however, have been in the trenches. The last, the last two years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have been. Spike Lee's like, what about some 78? There's nothing like the Knicks being out to win a championship. And it's the year that I, this year's my 10 year anniversary in New York. So I'm just saying some things are in alignment. Yes. We get here. They set their P word up. Yes. Who's your favorite Knick? Okay. I'm stuck between cat. Cat daddy. Big cat. Yeah. Yeah. Um, because one, like to be serious, like the, his grief, has he lost his mom and like the way that's been integrated in his story that I'm, I'm, I'm learning. I'm learning. I told you, we were at the U S open together. Cat and I, big cat. Oh, did you talk to him? I said, what up? I talked to his publicist a lot. Nice guy. That always takes us. Um, but something I'm really taken by is like the homoerotic, deeply beautiful friendship that I said, didn't respond to me when I said this, which felt really good by the way. But I said to Hunter, this like fan cam edit of, um, Brunson. And, uh, heart. And they, they, Ooh, heart love to play. He just like me. He has silly goals. Hunter hates a silly goose. Just like Brunson. He's like, we are literally in a press conference right now. Can you stop eating a chicken wing? And I'm like, if that is not Hunter Yvonne Harris and me, my phone fell. it's just, I was like, Oh, that's our dad. You sent it to me. And I was like, I don't know who I am. Cause I do feel spiritually very Josh Hart. Okay. Yeah. I saw Brunson though is a little bit, I mean, he's, he's giving like preacher's kid to me. He's coach's son. So, and, but that is my energy. Sometimes I'm, I'm willing to admit it. It's only, I feel like you have heart quality outside of me, but, uh, we like get in our dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Cause I, I see heart in you too. Yeah. I see heart in you too. Cause I read a big heart and I'm always saying it. You've been opening it up lately too. Big heart, bigger ass. We can't curse in the beginning of the episode. Big heart, bigger bleep. But you know, fill in the blank. Big titty, big booty. We doing it. We doing the damn thing over here. Okay. Let's get into this episode before we say something stupid. All right. Lock in. We got a really, really good episode for you. Oh, are you looking for a safe space for your secret celebrity opinion? Do you need someone who understands your latest internet obsession? We're a decade long best friends who connect over fussing and discussing all things pop culture. We're your first stop after that TMZ push alert from higher ground audio. I'm Peyton Dex and I'm Hunter Harris. And this is, let me say this. Let me say this. Nixon four. Oh, thank God. Thank God you're here. We have to go in with us today. I'm so happy. She's got a blowout for this. Got a blowout for this. Like that's only for this. That's how serious. Dry bar Boston. Wait, and let's, let's wake it up. Can I talk about dry bar? Dry bar used to mean something. Dry bar used to be a place where you were treated like the princess you are. You walk in champagne. Yes. It's cool. Yes. It's cool. It's air conditioning. The gals, I'll come this way. Come this way. Dry bar. Now you walk in. First of all, no free drink to everything's always like, there's always like a loose fan. The electricity is half out. It's hot. The women are like sweating. The door is always open. I'm like, why keep it open? They're not okay at dry bar. And it's the last thing I'll say in my whole life, by the way. But when I went to dry bar in San Francisco, I had to tell the amazing woman who did my hair. And by the way, I love her so much. I had to go. My hair, it's a little wet. Right. That's the one thing. Style me wrong, but at least get the hair dry. It is what's dry bar. If you can't go to dry bar for a blowout, where the hell can you go? Where the hell can you go? Someone needs to save it because I was in Boston staying in this horrific hotel. The kind of hotel where I was like, I can't wash my hair in the shower. You had me at Boston. I kind of assumed it from there. You weren't safe there. I just got back. I can't talk about it. I'm traumatized. But thank you to everyone who came out. Love it. Love your city. Love your town. Love your town. Anyways, so I did have to go to dry bar, but I want someone to save dry bar. Yeah. Like it's an indie bookshop. You're picketing. Okay, here's the thing. Last time I went to a dry bar, which was brave of me as a black woman to go. I have a pretty loose curl pattern though. Like it's not difficult to get my shit like straight, but I was in a pickle and I was like, okay, what's the worst I can do? It was like a lot, by the way. It got to a point where like the woman doing my hair was like, I actually don't, I think I can like handle it. Like I can't. She rejected you? Like how does it have someone sub in? No. Mind you, I'm barely rocking three C, you know, and it's like, there's no reason. She just kind of moved things around, like wash my hair, move things around and was like, wow. At what stage do you think she knew in the washing? She's like, I got to call him back up. I think she knew when I walked in. Cause she saw that I was black. She's like, she said, oops. I had a sub in SF. I had a sub in SF. I had three women. Yeah. It's always a woman. And there's always beef between them. Like there's always a storyline. They don't want to be there either. I don't blame them. They don't want to be a dry bar. I think on the tier of like jobs that really seem like day after day slog, it's like TSA, like clear agents and like dry bar divas. It does not seem good for them. There's a mutual suffering. You know who I'm really worried about? Have y'all been to the air ancient baths in Tribeca? No. Are you a freaking flyer? No. No, I've only been once. Okay. And it's similar even to bathhouse. unfortunately yeah me too and so i'm worried about the people who work in these dark wet spaces bring them into the light like in the dungeon you know i'm literally like are y'all they're wearing like just sneakers yeah i mean everyone's naked i'm like are you guys okay this is fucked up you have to work here yeah yeah we need to save them so we like now it's just like this is basically like a summer house recap pod at this point so well i'm so happy to share with y'all that i had never seen never seen it until 2.5 months ago i went to the source i went to season one i watched and please do hospitalize me immediately i watched 10 seasons in two and a half months and i'm caught up wow so let's go but see i love the cops i love that about you i love a completist i love someone who is like if we're gonna do it we're gonna do it all the way yeah yeah because it does inform the dynamics yeah yeah and i actually wish i did go back to like i started i think like set what? well i've got i'm like love island just started i might i'm just like got a lot of work to do yeah yeah and me complaining like to my parents about my my job of like i have to just catch up on the violin and then i have to do it's just like it's been a long day it is a part-time job though it really is i'm fully second screen i'm like you have to be though okay obvious question but lover hater summer house obsessed okay it's the best okay the only thing it's not as good as vanderpump rules that's okay i just found out ariana maddox is bi i just found out and you know how i react to it that's a huge part of her story about bisexuals interesting it's i didn't realize she was getting eaten out in the back of a car by lala yes whoever that is diva lala just said on the valley i actually need to get like a job like because lala you know all the programs lala said she only eats cookie when she's drunk what do you think about that she's a muncher chomp chomp actually i chomp chomp okay sorry very quick side note i went to get a facial they did an intraoral massage a couple months ago a couple months ago oh no no it was it was like a surprise intraoral massage i was like i don't think i need this she's like it's okay let's do it i was like oh okay then she's like okay i'm gonna put my finger my thumb in your mouth and just chomp and so for the next 20 minutes i swear to god she said chomp chomp no no no chomp no and i was like did you chomp history has been something has happened here of course i chomped she was making me chomp no it didn't feel good okay it really did not feel good i actually yeah it i did not but did you look snatched after like did it do something it didn't matter i was so chomp now has like this like fight or flight response in me excuse me in your mouth yeah i'm like oh god okay chomp okay summer house lover or hater of this whole amanda west sierra kyle drama like do you feel like this is a scandal oh i completely agree with you and i don't i've never watched pump rules so i'm not super informed to make that decision well you're so lucky because now you have a gift to look forward to exactly thank you what amanda what amanda does era is outrageous yeah it's just that's what it is it's that friendship watching that friendship grow and watching i'm just completely shocked but you know it's funny i kind of really wish that i watched it without knowing what happened because when you said their friendship was growing i was like i think it stayed the same the entire time yeah only because amanda so much of her storyline was just kyle and sierra i feel like you see her four more unique friendships with like page having um mia on even um the new who's the sabrina bell sabrina bell is everything to me by the way their friendship felt fake i was like sabrina i'm not in on but she is in the stars sabrina something i'm not i'm not gonna say no to her just yet because you know i like a bitch that's in the moon like i'm like come on down to earth diva i'm obsessed with her but i yeah their relationship just like kind of felt stagnant to me or by force because like kyle was dogging her and she didn't have page left in the house and so like the only other person i miss page i love her i would die she's such a star i felt like amanda and sierra was like the friend you grew up with from home that like maybe you aren't that close with but like she's there yeah yeah that's kind of amanda's vibe but i do i mean one of my favorite parts of their friendship is the way that sierra from early days is like i need you to like step it up like you're cool as hell like you're a pretty girl like you have so much to offer what are you doing so you're still working at lover boy like start being a swimsuit entrepreneur yeah they had to come to jesus i'm sorry at old navy they had to come to jesus is that where they shot that i remember that life happens at old navy life starts at old navy just by the way one of my best baby teas i fucking love old navy yeah they have hits also like that mid-tier fashion is like coming back in a really big way i agree like they're doing their stuff gap and day crew by the way and what were you saying oh i was gonna say like maybe the more accurate thing to say is like it was a one-sided friendship where like you see sierra putting in all this like effort and energy and you don't ever really see amanda returning it in what feels like to me like a real way yes but i think that's like really amanda's deficiency like amanda i cannot think of her in a friendship where it has felt like totally reciprocated or except for west which listen um but i do think that this i interviewed sierra and i asked her if she felt that amanda had been jealous of her and she said that she didn't think so or she wasn't sure but i think that there's just a way especially toward the end of this season where you see her like really laying it amanda laying it on thick like on the conversation with mia at the beach when she's like uh west is so he like needs to be you know like um on his like best behavior with her like sierra is so amazing like i only want the best for her whatever and it's like the way that you're selling this it's like a hat on top of a hat you're really like doing too much yeah and that's when i started thinking maybe this did go back longer yeah than we're thinking like not even the affair but just like the jealous like their dynamic between them kind of went sour because why is amanda going above and beyond to like appreciate sierra right right when it's like yeah like you sound like someone who's like about to betray her yeah that's the voice of someone who's about to betray me yeah what's the one in the bible yeah yeah what's the one in the bible so that's the bible jesus saying i think one of you bitches about to betray me wait i literally saw this tweet that was like um imagine inviting like 12 of your like homies to see who betrays you and i was like wait did sierra do this like i was like and then i realized it was about the bible so my brain one day is gonna work sierra is jesus in sub-communities like totally it is the last supper when they gather around the table oh the freedom dinner oh my god when they recline at the table for the freedom dinner like wow well first of all i'm curious when do you think it did start with amanda and west i think it started in the house even if it wasn't physical i think it definitely start emotionally definitely start because first of all why yeah why are you and also there is a moment at the freedom dinner when kyle was having his breakdown where the west was like that's like like fucking like rosa parks was there that's what that's what lindsey lindsey's allowed to call that dude she gets my bad but there's a moment where amanda's like trying to calm kyle by fully putting her hand around his throat which i'm like so how's that gonna work no um and kyle's like whispering in her ear and like grabbing her here grabbing her here i'm like oh you mean west west was doing that yes sorry yeah um but that's like not a way that you rub up on someone who is like just a casual friend because meanwhile whenever karl went to say like amanda like that's fucked up that he said that to you whatever it was way more like listen i'm so sorry about that like it was way that and not like yeah i know hair body face they're like nuzzling it's yeah yeah yeah yeah imagine hugging your male friend like i'm like it grosses me out well to hug a man that way is i know but every now and then wait but can i ask a quick like digression what's the friendship dynamic on on vanderpump though like as good as good friends no that's that's why it's like raquel was so random oh i was like okay i mean it was crazy because she was in the friend group but it wasn't like yeah raquel and ariana were besties okay like they weren't bed bugs yeah they weren't like yeah we were bed bugs together um okay well i'm curious in this reunion like who do you think is taking it i mean i'm trying to remember and how do you think amanda is taking it actually let's start there well i'm like worried she's not with us i think that she's lobotomized a little bit yeah beta blockers should release a statement like we did not have any part as a beta blocker frequent flyer when i get anxious that's never how anyone i know acts like it's crazy she seems like just like her natural affect of carelessness is like really on 10 in this reunion yeah she makes me sad i think sierra and lindsey are doing amazing work i'm gonna say pathy wait what is that i thought it was pathological liar oh so she's like oh she's making it her own she goes you're path you're you're a path she said what you're a pathy we don't believe anything you say it rolled off the tongue you're a pathy i go oh my god i go rewind rewind i'll literally make brian go back and go back i said miriam webster hello get on your zoom get to work word of 2026 pathy pathy was crazy what is a pathy and i was waiting for him the whole time i started the show i go i'm waiting for you to be charming i'm waiting for you to be charming yeah crickets okay and wake that up because i've always felt like west is a silly goose and i don't like silly geese i he's giving no he's like giving very class clown middle school boy af i don't know and he walks around with his belly all out like a toddler i don't like it i don't like anything about it tumbling okay i do think white boys specifically who have like a certain proximity to blackness gets boys very far because it may in the in the white boy or you like boy community i think it's like a little bit of like a lie to say that he wasn't charming to this group of girls and then i think especially sierra when you're like in this like very capital w white space where like you see a boy that kind of feels like you at least understand bits of my culture i'm gonna maybe point to you and you can play with me a little bit like she likes that like will they won't they dynamic so like i'm just holding space for like i've dated a lot of fucking fools and you know what and honestly if you've dated a fool call me okay there's a support group we meet thursdays at six but like it just i think he has a charm to him that now is really easy to like erase but there was something that worked i think because of his whole complex thing like working a complex and like being working fun yeah yeah i was like what did he do a youtube show or something like all they do is instagram memes like that's all they do um but i do think you're right especially in the house and as someone who's seen it from the very beginning it does feel like culturally a space where west coming in his first party he brings black friends yeah and that feels huge and i think that over time he just like maybe is so has like the this chameleon quality where he becomes silly or goofier with like jesse solomon and i think the west that enters this house is different from like the west that eventually becomes like the fan favorite i think he really does like some yeah uh shape-shifting code switching in a way that is which he's calling out now a little bit yeah yeah you move so different depending on who you're around and that to me is the cardinal sin of bravo it's like that's why luanne was fired from roni for those seasons where it's like if you live your life one way on camera and one way off camera no everyone hates that it's like not it doesn't logically it can't work with that what was the wind's journey with that she was like very marnie very like prim and proper yeah that matters book um and then meanwhile the women are like we know that you're like out here receiving dick we know you yeah and then she was a friend of and then she came back when she was like willing to be like okay yeah i'm gonna fuck a pirate in a bush like i'm gonna do what i'm gonna do speaking french to try and cover it up it's like you're still mic'd yeah it was incredible like yeah i just did that watch last summer oh that was bliss i couldn't believe that you get you get to work you are watching the show it's i was just telling i was just telling you like i had never really gotten into reality tv until the pandemic yeah and then now it's like there's so much amazing and it really women's stories matter it they just matter what did you start with what was your entry point housewives entry point was love island oh like during like dark days of the pandemic okay okay okay and then i got into the bravo the my gateway drug to bravo was vanderpump i might need to take a hit of that it's crazy can i start somewhere later though do i have to start from oh i wouldn't want you to not the beginning is it's like early housewives it's like they don't know what they're doing they don't they're not yeah they're not performing yeah they're just the one-liners are amazing yeah they're they're going there's a scene where kristin is about to work out and she's ripping shots before her workout it's like that is the energy of vanderpump she is just like me she's like quick shot and her trainer's like hell yeah like it's insane but i see what you're saying i agree west you know he did have i it's hard to remember that when he first came he was really good to her and like they had they clearly had chem yeah yeah and then he just becomes someone else you're right yeah bathie i was rooting for jesse solomon and sierra to make it work honestly i think what do you think about him it i'm an ally to the jesse solomon community yeah i'm open now you just got so shy like he's in the room she's like jesse come on now oh my god she tucks her hair behind her ears so coy what can i say no i'm sorry he's funny he's so funny he's so sweet but you don't think he's a silly goose though he is a silly goose but he's um tall and so that really does make a difference if you're if you're a silly goose from up here honey let's be silly together right if you're silly it was from you're chuckling down below like yeah i'm like but also like i streamed his music and i didn't hate it and then everyone pointed a gun at me and now i'm into my own i love it i was like you have bars when he was singing what would jesse solomon do at that did i was like you know you can sing too like you you're doing this like you're doing a full song you're doing a bridge you're doing like a an extra course just because you know you can i just remember a scene where he's like by the pool and he's like it's so embarrassing i just wrote a song about this girl yeah and amanda's like okay and i'm like jesse no but he is really funny but you know who's really funny i'm sorry kyle oh well that's a comedian this is the funniest comedian i ever met you got to get him on your show i would die i never met him but i do feel like these people are my close close friends i okay i know that kyle is a bad husband of course and i know that he has made mistakes of course but who among us has not i mean you can be a bad husband and a comedian my dad did it like it's fine and it's allowed to learn close up i was on the vile files last week in los angeles oh my god okay okay i have a lot of now i've heard it all so at this point i've heard everything but i bring that up because on that show we talked about this fan theory that west wants amanda to break up with him that he is like actually dara can you repeat what you just said now that amanda is back on the sofa that i don't care about women that i'm a bad boyfriend that i will cheat on her that i will lie to her face um and i truly think that he just like got caught up he thought okay amanda is never gonna like break up our whole friend group like blow up her whole life for this like rebound she does and then now he's okay well uh now they're just together and he doesn't want to be that way because what is it how is he gonna in a in one month basically complete 180 now he wants to be like a boyfriend i know i don't believe that how crazy when he said i agree i had to rewind i go wait wait hold on okay you're a piece of and i agree i'm not mad at that so he's told one truth yeah he is in too deep for sure yeah i think that's why it was so rewarding when um she was saying like you know i know that i had these feelings for him and he had a girlfriend like it was embarrassing and mia saying well that's because it was yeah that was embarrassing i was like and that's what makes her cry like that just that hearing that back is what makes her like flee the stage yeah which is hilarious and another mia hit to be like everyone's like i almost cried i almost cried i almost cried i almost cried i almost cried i almost ran after so i didn't yeah just in case anyone's wondering that was amazing i love her can i just say i've been following hair advice from everyone under the sun and my curls were just not cooperating because that advice wasn't for us it was one size fits all hair care 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I mean, I love that for us. I love it for you. I love it for us and I love it for you. Give your skin the glow. I love it for you. Go to notorium.com slash lemme. That's L-E-M-M-E for 10% off the Glow Getter Bundle. That's notorium.com slash lemme. You know who else I love? Yeah. The cast of a little show I like to call Love Island USA. Heard of it. What are we thinking? What are we feeling? Well, I'm behind. I've not been in the mines. I'm a couple episodes behind. It's. Okay. We cannot have another season like last season. That's the top note. We as a culture, as a country, will not survive if this season goes the way last season does. And I saw someone tweeting, like, so this time last season, Huda was already fighting with Amaya during a challenge. Like, we really can't go back to that. And this season, I don't see any, like, huge red flags except for the cop who said, and I randomly happened to sleep with this woman and she got pregnant and now she has a son that I'm the father of, but I left to be on the show. Other than that, I don't see any, like, glaring, huge. Right. Should we tell her? I think so. Like, don't you worry about him anymore. Oh, thank God. Okay, great. Hey, you? Like, it's like. What's that meme? So I'm free. It's like, don't worry, queen. You don't have to worry about, like, the war. It's like, don't worry about that guy. You're good. Love it. Love it. Yeah, when I was reminded that he had a son, I was like, go home. Right. Yeah. Well, it does, like, when they're saying goodbye to him and she's like, your son's going to be so proud of you. I go, oh, jump scare. I forgot. Okay. So for what? Guy humping? I mean, I guess. But you're right. The red flag. So that was a moment. Yeah. And then I. Well, the main thing I want to talk about. Yeah. is Trinity giving head while her mother was driving the car. And then her answer. And then her excuse being, it was daylight savings time. I go, that's. But that's a star. That's a star. And I sat with it and I said. I get that. That's why I watch reality TV, because someone says that. I'm like, that's everything. Like, you can't make that up in final draft. You wish. That's not coming to you in script form. That's just simply off-the-dome genius. Oh, I love a 22-year-old. She's one to watch. I love her lived experience. Yeah. I was going to say, I'm weirdly rooting for her and the blonde guy. I kind of like him. Matthew Gray goobler-ass bitch. Oh, my God. That is a really good comment. I was like, who does he look like? Who does he remind me of? He looks like. Yeah. I mean, the real romance is obviously between him and Zach, of course. Of course. What's his name? What's a blonde's name? Bryce. Bryce. Oh, Bryce the model. Yeah, Bryce the model. Yeah, they're cute. We got to start getting more strict with the word model, I feel like. Because everyone. Yeah. He's model. Let me. Pull it up. Right? Am I about to eat my words? Let's see. Am I wrong? He's not a model. Well, he's a trash collector as well. Well, range. Yeah. That's actually sexier to me. Bryce, model, pictures. You said, so what campaigns have you booked? I mean, he looks good. I think he's hot for the record. He looks like my ex-boyfriend from college before I realized I was gay. The rapper. But. The rapper. And he's good at music, by the way. He's good at music. See, it's not like. I'm worried. Come on. Like, it's like. It's. You're on Instagram. It feels like a little Instagram forward. You're right. I'm waiting for like a Calvin Klein. Just at least one. I don't know why all of a sudden model needs like a dictionary definition. He's on. But it's like. He wears a swimsuit. He's a model. A model is a person on Instagram. Like, that's. Like, we're all models, by the way. Oh, yes. I think. I mean, yes, obviously. But I'm like. When boys specifically come on Levi and they're like, so I'm a model. And I'm like. Well, Nick really was a model. He'd modeled for. Well, because he got it from his mama. Yeah. Yeah. And that's a real model. Who was Nick? Nick from. Nickelandria. Oh, of course. Are they still together? You don't even want to start this conversation. There's a red dot on your forehead if you believe anything other than the fact that they're in big, merry love. Like, they have stans that are shooters. Oh, have you been on the website Threads? Only against my will. Right. And it is a mass psychosis event. Like. Wait, what's going on? I'm out of the loop. They. Oh, my God. It's. If anyone doubts their love, they kill their family. I'm afraid to speak about it. Where do they live? You're on a. Where do. Where do who live? Nickelandria. Not together. I don't know. Maybe she's in LA. Maybe. I would assume for work, but. I don't know. I honestly have no idea. But. Oh, I really struck a. I really struck a nerve here. Well, no. Because they're scary. And they try to kill us once, too. What are you saying? And Hunter's been doxxed before, so we can't take any risks. Okay, you can tell me off, Eric. You can tell me off. Yeah, yeah. Wait, that's so funny. I support Nickelandria. And I think they're very in love. And I think that they are on the marriage track. Me, too. One can only hope. Me, too. Same. Same. Wait, can I ask. Can I ask a really random question? How. Because I know how you feel about. Is that your groove? I love it. Thank you for being alive, God. What do you expect? I'm like a theater kid. I'm like. I'm like, bring back camp. Bring back fun. Bring back joie de vivre. Like, God forbid we do a little drag. Yeah, I mean, I was watching the Tonys. I just watched Pink host the Tonys. Like, of course I love that. I saw one photo of her in the Peter Pan getup. Oh, yeah. Was that from last night? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Of course. She did. Well, she basically did an homage to one of my favorite pop culture movies. One of my favorite pop culture moments, which was Ariana DeBose's opening number at the BAFTAs. Do you know what? I thought you were going to say Alison Williams playing Peter Pan in that NBC live production. And show it to the non-binary community, actually. Thank God. But I just love. Yeah, so I love the opening. Yeah, those are three openings that I love. Ariana, Pink, and Love Island. What is that song? Oh, I think it's just made up. Like, AI invented it for the show. Like, yeah. Or like a girl in her closet. It's sampling what? It's sampling Mariah Carey? I actually wouldn't know because I simply did fast forward. Yeah. That's not right. Yeah. It's Pride Hunter. It's like, there's only a few things you can do to support it. And I do a lot, actually. And you know how much I do. I was on Interior Motives. Interior Motives? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Saying, I think gay men are clean. And you go ahead and say that. You'll be the only one. And I was pilloried for it. Anyway. I just love it. Okay. So who's at the bottom for you? Who do you not like on Love Island? The current. Okay, let me think. The current Love Island. Is that girl with the blonde with like the. Kenzie. Yeah. The dancer. Yeah. Kenzie looks exactly like Candace Cameron Bray. Do you agree? Wait, who's that? She. From Full House? Yeah, it's DJ from Full House. And now she's known for like being unwell. Republican? Yeah. She's like super Christian. Yeah. And of course, shout out to God. Right, right. I'm always shouting him out. You know that. Who do I not like? God is a black woman. Don't do that to a black woman. She would have done this. But do you remember that whole era? Excuse me. Going from like Ariana Grande to being like a black woman. Some people are like, same thing. If you think about it. Okay, sorry. Kenzie. I mean, I don't. All of the men. I'm like, don't. We're never getting a Miguel again. The new bombshell, though. Did you. Could you work with him a little bit? He said. The new bombshell said, I've never been to a concert. But YouTube is enough. So. I forgot. I'm just concerned about the youth. So there really is a male loneliness epidemic. He's so lonely. And he's so. The issue is that when I started watching the show. Yeah. During the pandemic. You know, I was in my 20s. I was like, these are my crazy friends. Now I feel like I could be their mother. Of course. They feel so young to me. Don't they? Yeah. Well, he's 22. That's crazy. And so for a second when I was like, oh, he's a child. That's a child. And also not to take it back to Summer House, but it watching this as a. 31 year old. I'm like, how was Kyle doing it for so long? How was Kyle Cook, who's 43 years old and present day, hanging out in a house with people 10 years younger than him and still Party Girl 365 going to do it every single time. It's amazing. And he's still singing that one. And he's still DJing. Wait. And the funniest part of the reunion was when the only time I've seen Kyle really break down was when she goes, I like going out, just not with you. I go. That was like Greek tragedy. I was like, this is like. And even Andy's face was like, wow. Like, oh, you went below the belt because, you know, that's where it hurts. Yeah. Love Island. I'm trying to think. And what do you think about the latest episode? What? Wait. I was like, what? It was the first recoupling, right? That was. Yeah. So I think Casey and Anaya are really cute. I love them. They're real. I really like them together. What they have is real. But, you know, what's annoying to me is like someone called. He was saying like, oh, I just so you know, like love dark skinned woman. I love black woman 100 percent. And everyone was like, I'm stuck between two things. Yeah. What did you think? Because a lot of people are like, this felt really performative. Like you're looking for America's specifically black women's vote because that's who carried. like, Nicolandria through the finish line. Yeah. And so some people are like, oh, like, that's fake, but, like, Nick rapping with his little friends, like, that's not fake, too. Like, what do you call performative? I think it's right in the middle because a black man from California, all my friends that are, unfortunately, straight and are dating, it is very, it is rare that a black man is, like, ten toes behind a black woman, unfortunately. That is just true. And so part of me is, like, a little wary, and I don't want to give him too much credit yet, but I'm really glad he said that, and I really hope it is true. Yes. But it did feel a little bit, like, to camera. I know. You know, it was a little, I don't know, I'm wary about it, but. But I liked their recoupling speeches. Yeah, it felt real. I like her a lot. But she seems too nice for the island. She seems too nice for Fiji. She's way too normal. No, I was like, you seem like you respect yourself more than Miss Girl. I know. Beatrice? Beatrice? Oh. Who, when they asked, when they asked her. So, you picked Doggy. Tell us about that. Oh, my God. Oh, my, yes, of course. Because I go, this is the first episode. It was literally like, ma'am, like, this is the first episode. Yeah, just like that feeling of putting my hand behind my back and getting my face up to the pillow and just showing me how big you are. I forgot about that. I wanted to like her so much. I really saw for her. I was like, she has a big personality. She's, like, so fun. She's an accomplished woman. She's a lesbian. And then I. I said, huh. She's old and brave. I mean, you're struggling with her. Yeah, I am. I am. That was hard to hear. I forgot about that moment. It's like, and spit in my mouth. And it's like, whoa. And Ariana Manchin's like, queen. So, next. Yeah, Ariana is, like, animatronic at this point. The way she walks on the set, I'm like, she's been just, like, defrosting. That was hard, but love her. Do you think she's a good host? Safe space. Safe space. Um, yeah. I think she's a host. I don't think she's a best host, but I don't think she's a bad host. I think there could be better hosts. Who was it before? I don't know. Love Island, for me, started at USU, too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I've not done the UK. I haven't gotten across the pond yet. Love Island began for me with PPG. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Serena, Lea, Janaye. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Was that the Rob? That was the Rob season. Yeah, of course. Oh, Rob's haircut. How do we feel? Didn't see this. I didn't see it either. What is it? He has, like, a bus cut. Let's get a visual. Oh, I'm sure it looks sexy AF. I was like, let's just pull it up. Pull it up. Imagine me. Imagine me in Las Vegas. Elevator opens. It's Rob in overalls that say Arby's. I go. I'm. No, it's good. It's actually great. I love when a white boy shakes his head. Fuck. It's so good. To get me to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go ahead and get that answer. Wow. It's kind of giving, like, Brad Pitt. It works. It's giving Brad Pitt and Mr. and Mrs. Smith for sure. Like, it's giving fucks. Wow, I needed that. Do you find anyone? Is there, like, someone super hot to you on there? I really feel like I'm too old. I'm just like, these are my kids. That's my niece. That's my nephew. I'm like this crazy gang of kids. Like, they're. Getting their hair done too. Like Scooby-Doo. I know. These crazy kids. It is Scooby-Doo. It's like. Yeah. I'm trying to think, like. No one this season is getting hot to me. It's too early. It's, well, never. The boys, no. I mean, obviously, I think, like, I love all women. That's not true. Happy pride. But I will say there was a really iconic moment between, one, well, Beatrice, actually, and the girl that's low-key. I'm like, you're going to give us a tease. She's. What is her name? Mel. Mel. Melanie. I'm scared of her a little bit. Mel is reality TV. She's. No, it's what she's doing. Yeah. The casting director was like. Yeah. It's fire out. Day one, she's like. I don't want to. And it's like, she's, we're crying day one. It's, yeah. But I like when they do that. Of course. Like, Kenzie being like, fuck you. I'm like, you just met two hours ago. That was crazy. I mean, her dancing. She's a dancer. You have to watch the intro because you have to see her jump into the splits. I don't need to see that. She has that at home. Yeah. I do that for her. I just try to do the splits. I do that for her. Yeah. One of my biggest regrets is, like, never learned how to do the splits. I actually always wanted to. Not even, like, a sex thing. I just genuinely want to know how to do it. It's never a sex thing. Let's just for the record, it's never a sex thing. I think it is. Do people have sex like that? No, because I tried it twice and it doesn't work. It doesn't work on a strap or a regular. Because they're just like, okay. Well, it's just like, now what? We're just sitting in a split together? Like, it's just like, it takes so much to get into. Okay, this is a family podcast. Sorry, sorry. This is a family show. This is a family podcast. It can be. That my family listens to. And shout out to Hunter's family. I know. And shout out. That's how babies are. They know. I'm just kidding. It's a stork. Wait, can I go back to something that you brought up, which is musical theater. But specifically being a musical theater kid. One of my favorite. What do you think is like the most like true stereotype of musical theater kids? Oh, God. I mean. I love this question. They're so, they're so annoying. Because it's a gun. It's like, there's only wrong answers. It's like, we, I'm happy to claim it, like super annoying. I would say like, poorly dressed. Yeah. I'm sorry. We're always in costume. It's hard. There's just some styles that you only see from a theater kid. Like, there's hats. Hair styles, specifically, too. Hair styles. Ariana is a good, Ariana DeBose is a good example of that. There's hats you only see at a rehearsal. Like, there's like a newsboy cap hybrid that you only see in a rehearsal studio. Maybe a little. Yeah, it's a very like, m'lady. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny because I was watching Nikki Bell, whose Instagram recaps I always love. The red carpet. And him doing the Tony's carpet. He was like, no, no, no, no, no. I was like, oh my God. Ooh, wait, that's a good one. It was so funny. And I was like, I just love every person in that. I was like, you are killing it. You are killing it. I think, yeah, Sarah Paulson had an amazing dress, but there were some crazy looks. But I think because she's been like, I'm actually a little different than you. Right. She's like, I'm actually a TV star. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was so funny. He was like, no. Was it, was musical theater like as horny? As everyone said? Not for me. My life was not horny for so long. And that's why I have to get up on stage and talk about sex incessantly. Like, because of that. Was there like a musical that like turned you out? Where you were not like, wait, that was a crazy way to follow that question. Oh, Lord. I meant just like that. Me in the splits? Yeah. On stage. I love words. I meant more of like, what like made you be like, oh, the musical theater. Like, that's my gag. And I mean, my favorite musical of all time is Sunday in the Park with George. I mean, Sontag. I'm familiar. When Sontag comes into your space as a child, it's really space sacred and beautiful. What are y'all's favorite shows? That happened to me when I saw Marriage Story. And Adam Driver sang it live. Wow. And I was like, who is this guy? He's great. I love that. No, ignore AF. Yeah. And then I watched Company. That was Sontag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I watched Co-op, the documentary now, like satire. Oh, I haven't seen that. Oh, it's. It's so funny. Oh, my God. I need to. I need to. You would love it. Okay, great. Yeah. Company's one of the best. Yeah. I spent a lot of time, and I'm coming clean about something. Yeah. It's just like watching compilations of like people, different singers doing the last five years. It's so good. Jamie is over and Jamie is gone. Oh, my God. Like, but I am saying something where I, again, red dot on my forehead. I didn't hate Anna Kendrick's version of it. I never watched it. It's okay. I mean, she's talented. I think so, too. Trolls is amazing. I'm worried that you like love all music. Yes. When you led with Jesse, I go, okay. So we're coming from a great place of Jesse. My friends helped me reframe this. I'm just like, I enjoy things. Like, I like to enjoy. You're the only person. It's a great way to be. I want to take some of that. I definitely don't. Yeah. No, that's ying and yang. Yes. It's a perfect dynamic. But I'm working on like having like a better barometer for like, like, or just having better taste. But like, the thing about me is my heart's open. Like, you love life. Yeah. That's so special. And I'm working on being like, hate it. No, no, no. I can make this work. Never change. Me writing in your yearbook. Never change. No, that was very me. It was Lylas AF. Lylas. But yeah. Anyway, I also like recently, I've never seen Hamilton, but TikTok put me on to that, that one song that's like a total banger. And I'm like, maybe this is good. And maybe it's far enough now that I can enjoy it. Yeah. The one that's satisfied. Yeah. I have to say, I love Hamilton. Hamilton but I prefer In the Heights In the Heights is one of my favorite shows of all time that music it's in my head it's stuck in my head almost every day what's the first song if I'm like you're off book sing it now what is it good morning $20 for today's lottery one ticket that's it hey a man's got a dream moving like heard it here first yeah my new cover um that whole soundtrack is like everything everything yeah $96,000 I look okay I want to ask also like about your upcoming one-woman show thank you so much for asking I would love y'all to come please come through all summer at the Lucille Lortel theater or origin place of O'Mary which which we know and famously yes um my show is called Broad Strokes it's about me having a stroke I'm fine and it's stand-up it's songs I'm gonna be there all day all summer come hang out if you're in New York and yeah I was just doing it in Boston so that's a callback City of Drybar and yeah I start rehearsals at the end of the month and it's gonna be I'm like I'm nervous but excited well excited and scared Sondheim come on you guys speak me out so good to see you no I want to learn I want to learn your hearts are both so open yes okay wait speaking crazy transition tell us about the stroke how that happened let's get into that I heard that you have a close personal friend Hayley Bieber who has the same thank you for asking yes thank you well yeah I was this is like three summers ago I was in my apartment started feeling weird but I get migraines and stuff so I was like oh whatever and then I was my arm stopped moving and I was like I think I should have a stroke and then I went to the hospital and then they were like you did and I was like why and I was born with a hole in my heart the drama the show writes itself come on and basically it's so funny when they told me this I was like is that like really common they were like no it's not uncommon but it's not like so common I was like okay I'm gonna kill myself anyways and then if you have this hole in your heart it can cause a stroke but there's a procedure they closed it up okay so I'm good now but that was kind of the saga of that is what the show is about because it was crazy that's so insane wait how old are you I was 30 when it happened right I was 30 when it happened right I was 30 when it happened right I was turning 31 yeah anyways and so I was just like it was just so shocking because I'd been you know healthy my whole life yeah lucky girl yeah and now it's funny I'm like processing it as I write the show as I do the show and my main thesis is like oh I'm not over it that was really crazy yeah but I'm just so lucky I'm just so lucky that they knew what it was and fixed it yes like and they figured out quickly and I've spoken to many people who've had this since then because like oh I want to connect you to my friend or whatever and so many people are like oh I want to connect you to my friend or whatever and so many people had like multiple strokes or were in the hospital for like months because they didn't know what was causing it so I just feel so lucky thank you thank you thank you that they knew what it was and figured it out and then when I got home from the hospital after the diagnosis I google it first thing that pops up Hayley Bieber I'm like that was the first time I was like I'm going to be okay because I'm like I'm at death's door and then I'm like oh I'm actually on the cover of Vogue yeah it's a different thing I can't believe she had that you're a Vogue ambassador yeah I know and like I need to connect with her she needs to come to the show Hayley please come to the show I feel close come to Broadstroke I think it's like we're a couple it's not even six it's like four we can figure it out I know we can figure it out yeah everyone's with what with the internet and all everyone's so connected wait I'm soft-fitting into something else which is aura rings so because I'm thinking we're thinking health or did you see what I did there did you see how it connected to that dot because what so we're sisters right you can't break this bond they're in a sorority how long have you been wearing her ladies and gentlemen probably about six six no longer than that like eight months okay and what made you say I want one a brand event oh god actually no I gotta get on your level it was before that I paid for it I was thinking like maybe I want an aura ring maybe I want to like because I have this like smart mattress I was like maybe I want some more like health tell me about that later that's a whole other story is that the eight sleep yeah and it has changed my life did they give that to you no okay you were like thank god I was about to be pissed I was about to be like yeah what's going on with my career the aura ring okay I what really sold me on it actually my friend Jordan Holman did an interview for the times with the founder and he was like I wear it because it can tell me like symptom tracker if I'm about to become sick and I was like okay well I hate being sick and I hate it in a way like a man does where he like acts like he's the first person to ever be sick and I was like okay sold I want one now and I was about to buy one and they I went to an event and they gave me one but I generally do really love it what brought you to it though like what made you say like I'm changing well actually I was like I'm going into this really intense summer of doing this show like I'm like I'm going to be a monk because when I'm doing this show I get like so intense it's like no parties no booze tons of sleep exercise and I was like if I have a little tool to track it it makes it more fun for me so I got it like two months ago and I'm so curious like first of all it thinks I'm dying not actually but like my HRV yeah what is that who knows what is your HRV who knows what's HRV heart rate variability is that right sure but I don't know what it actually is you're telling me this thing yells at me every single day she says is it buzz girl no or something no just via the app it's always like symptom tracker so you might not be well like you need to turn off the alcohol turn off the turn off the staying up late it's like yeah I'm I'm really on thin ice a lot of times I've been shocked by the alcohol information I've received I don't want to know it it really is so bad for you I don't want to know it because I love it's not trendy but I love alcohol I think it's amazing like I think it's unbelievable you know we're on FaceTime I'm like I love a little glass of rosé what can I say who doesn't everyone's like I like my CBD drink it's like no you don't you don't like that your yerba mate throw it out yeah but it's just such a bummer that unwinding with a glass ruins your whole sleep and your life yep right because I just did a week with no booze and I was like ding ding ding ding like crown crown crown and it's not worth it I'm like I'll take my I'll take my low score for everything just to be like I know yeah I was six months sober and I was gonna say I've never been more snatched in my fucking life I was like it was hard for all of us how did you feel to be clear amazing I felt bad it was because you didn't have your you lost your friend yeah it was really annoying I'm joking of course I'm joking it's beautiful every single friend though that I was like I'm drinking again I fell to their knees in a way that was like thank god what made you what made you go back I was bored FOMO I'm just gonna be honest I was a little I was just like and there are things I found things to do for sure like I there are other things to do than go out and drink of course but going out and drinking was so fun your seltzer lime that sort of journey for you what to order at a bar instead of ordering oh yeah yeah that was really cool formed a lot of community a lot of sober people in my life but well I've seen something really alarming on socials which is that people are ordering something called like a dirty seltzer where they like they don't drink until they have seltzer with olive juice what I even they're white friends aren't they I'm sure I haven't seen like who are they to me they're an avatar I go no no no yeah get that off my timeline by the way I love just really quickly your sub stack notes oh thank you I have so much fun on there and I feel really connected to them I go like like like okay wait I do want to ask one more question on the show oh yeah yeah how do you feel like at what stage of I mean this like traumatic event the recovery did you decide I can make something about this like I can turn this into work yeah and is that part of your process of of you know healing yeah yeah healing totally I was truly I get to the emergency room I'm sitting there I go this is gonna be an amazing show had not been diagnosed did not know it was wrong I was like whatever this is thank you everything is content just by the way well it's funny like when you're doing like your first show your first special you have you know 25 years of lived experience to pull from and then you're like okay I have to do another one but I'm like I have nothing to say yeah or whatever and then this was just like a story that the beautiful universe goddess above gave to me and so yeah I just as soon as it was happening I was just writing down notes remembering phrases that I thought were funny because when something is traumatic it's also funny at the same time like you're crying but you're laughing like I remember sitting there with my boyfriend and I looked at my phone it said it was national girlfriend day and I was like in the hospital happy national girlfriend day and he's just it was so I don't know I go this would never happen to you and he was like I know it wouldn't like this is so me yeah I was like it me like just remember and just like writing all those moments down but then I didn't like start writing the show until that was in August and I probably started writing the show in like December January okay so yeah it is healing but it also like performing it does bring up some anxiety so I think it's a little bit exposure therapy I hope I hope that the more I talk about it the less like I used to not be able to like talk about it at all so progress yeah yeah this is therapy at the end of the day like this is group I know have y'all done group therapy I really want to get in there is that good never done it before I like one I'm only trying like one to one yeah yeah yeah I want to be the favorite like who the fuck are all these people and on that note everyone to camera can you just let everyone know where they can follow you and where they can see you thank you guys so much for having me and let me say this I love that you have a table here thank you because a lot of people don't like it and I am I am table core it's so much better like because I experience podcasting on my own sometimes and like to sit in a chair and then it's just like and I love all bodies are beautiful and I love mine but like to just to lead with this is really hard so I feel so it feels like I'm I'm on the news yeah yeah and you this helped me give the takes I needed to give so thank you both for having me I'm an emphatic speaker I love table thank you so much that's the problem table I'm like it locks me in I guess I would say catcohenbroadstrokes.com get tickets for the summer and yeah follow me at cat underscore cohen that's fine because someone has cat cohen and we'll find her and we'll we'll finish her oh and she won't give it to you it's confusing for her family if she switches she ate that she ate that no I know she ate that it would be confusing it would be confusing like you're not thinking about her family that's so funny I'm a fucking bitch that's so funny this was years ago I can't remember - If we get our audience to like spam them to be like give her her hand up her family is gonna be guess what more confused yeah no she rocks she 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