Love, Hockey, and Healing: Thursday, July 30th, 2026

Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Starbucks. At Starbucks, full and part-time baristas can build meaningful careers while getting industry-leading benefits, like comprehensive health coverage, and up to 18 weeks of paid parental leave without missing a step in their careers. Because at Starbucks, great benefits and opportunities to grow are just the start. Learn more at starbucks.com/partners. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and Happy Thursday. It's a latter half energy on the day of the Thursday. It is so simpatico-energy in here, not as both of them are lagging. It's okay, cool chill girls who drink beer. Well, it's raining. I know swethers are not the vibe. And as I shared earlier in the week, I'm committed to switching it up a little bit just because I'm sick of doing the same thing every day. So, yeah, I did laggings, but then I still, yeah, I should have worn a casual top. But I just, like, have an aversion to casualness lately. Like, I have a, what's the opposite of aversion? Diversion? No, like, a fondness. A warmth and love. I love cash. I'm so casual. That's like a beer drinker in me. Always a love. I can't go down this road. Can we get it? You drink beer. Actually, like, you guys don't get it, but okay, we're striving to get it. Not really getting like how chill and cool I am and how much I like sports, but okay. We also are simpatico today because we drove together. We did. We decided to save the gas, save the energy. What's so funny is I did a Q&A on my Instagram the other day because I'm an influencer and so many questions where why don't you guys drive together to the toast? Well, I guess I think it's really weird, but we do different things after the show. But also, like, personally, I just learned how to drive. I just got my car like these things are still exciting for me. Even people ask me, like, why don't you do self-driving on your Tesla? And it's like, I'm not sick of driving yet. No, I actually do understand why people think it's so weird. And there are a lot of things we do that really freak people out. And I'm like, well, you guys are the freaks not us. I actually agree that it is, like, low-key weird of us. But it just means, like, afterwards, like, I can do, like, if I want to stop and get a coffee or like a-- Yeah. Breakfast, taco. It's freedom. It's freedom. And you know me, like, I hate doing things that I don't want to do. So like, if me and Jack are driving, how much you, like, has to stop somewhere? Like, I don't want to go. No, and this morning, I was going to stop and get my breakfast taco and my coffee. And she was like, oh, I was actually thinking I'm driving with you. So I couldn't go. Yeah, so my freedom was limited. Correct. We prioritize freedom here. I don't know if you guys can say the same. But we know. That's the peachyardic swirling nature. Just as free, free as will ever be. So how did you feel driving with me? I felt relaxed. You have a nice little heat warmer. I felt good. Like, definitely would do it again. Yeah, the cardboard in me obviously loves not using gas. I was speaking of cardboard. Jack and I had such a fun afternoon yesterday. I've been meaning to go. So for my birthday, Ben got me this really, really beautiful Chanel bag, like King. And I did really like it. But I also wanted to see what else they had. I wasn't intent on returning it. But I wanted to go to the store and see if there was anything else that really screamed at me. And so, of course, I knew just the swirl for the job. My podcast or influencer/sales associate. And we went to the Chanel and East Hampton, which was just a fun outing, having free money to spend. Yeah. That was the best part. It wasn't new money to spend. Right. The money was spent. Of course, we did. And I was spending like a couple hundred dollars. And I had to get a couple things for myself. But and not Ben, like being such a generous king, like the bag that I picked to swap it out with was significantly less. So I was like running around the store, like looking for things just to meet my credit. They don't give you a refund. You have to exchange. So I got a bag, a new bag, a pair of sunglasses, and a pair of shoes. And I, of course, then ended up going over the credit. I had spent four hundred dollars, which killed me. But basically, free. Such cute stuff. And I got two pairs of sunglasses. Like the amount, I think in order of like products I use most in my life, my phone is number one. Sunglasses is number two. It's true. And you know, like they say, it's like bad for your eyes or whatever. I know, I know. And I'm already trying, after four o'clock, I try not to wear them. And they say you should expose your therapy, your irises. I'm addicted to sunglasses. And I try not to buy sunglasses that are like too dark now. Like I've been wearing these ray bands. And I think they're actually really good for me because they're like much lighter. And sunglasses are very important to me. And like, you know, they're the purse of the face. I love that. You shouldn't that. It's like more so than like jewelry or you're not going to wear it. And like my problem is, I'm actually like very hard on my sunglasses. Oh, yeah. I kind of throw them in. I always lose the case. I like the kids play with them. Yeah. Oh, my God. We love playing with sunglasses. Yeah. So like, it's like annoying to spend money. And you know, they say that like designer sunglasses are made in the exact same factory as like Claire's. I just want to say like I try on sunglasses everywhere. So, you know, the surf shop, the ones that have Z supply everywhere sell Z supply. These days, it's like Amazon and real life. I try on the sunglasses. It's not the same. No, I agree. It's not the same. I do think that like the logo makes it more beautiful. No, it's just, it's just not. I wish it was. I would buy cheaper sunglasses too. But like sometimes like the, you need the polarized lens. That's a real thing. Totally. The polarization. A banner sunglasses can be a headache. Yeah. And then they have to be like the right tightness. I don't like them tight. I don't like when they squeeze my temples. Yeah. No, it's so personal. So also to say we had a very successful shopping day. And due to the conversation yesterday that actually inspired our next blog. Yes. Which is going down tomorrow with Miss Margot. Sales associate, full A. Jackie knew better than to ask me to be her subject because like sorry, I'm not trying on clothes. On camera. On camera. Like pressure to buy. I did that once. And it was like at my skinniest. Remember when we went to like Abercrombie at the mall. Yeah. And we were vlogging. And let me tell you, I still had a terrible time. So I hate trying on clothes in stores. And I certainly hate trying on clothes. You know what blog. I just remember that we did. That was such a slay. That's like similar to this one. Was dressing you for St. Bart's in my closet. Well, let me just tell you. Like if you're not a patreon member, you should join. That's a whole lot of episodes. That's like at people's favorite episodes. When I was staying at Jackson just decided to go to St. Bart's. Like I had to pack using her closet. And I was. So skinny. Like, oh my god. It's. I had amazing things for. And I gave her everything. And I was the best dressed woman in St. Bart's. Like, hands down. It was probably the happiest I'd ever been. And it was an amazing time. And an amazing vlog. The vlog is amazing. It's like, it's real peak into like my closet. It's a real taste of her trip. And. You that trip. That blog also inspired me because your closet was very impressive in the sense of like you had clothes for ten different women. You had literally extra small up to like postpartum pregnancy. I am ten different women. And I, every time I lose three pounds, I throw away all my big clothes. Sweepers. I'm like, oh, I don't need her. Sweepers. And every time I get big, I'm like, eventually throwing away my small clothes. So it did really inspire me to like, you know, have a closet for a real woman. You know, just be a little less sweeper when it comes to my sizes. Yeah. But I lost all the weight on it. I was like, I'm never going back there. So everything can go. Even my expensive stuff. I got rid of everything. Meanwhile, I had a baby. And I need all that clothes. Yeah. Now in this season of life through the ups and downs, I need a closet that's small through extra large. That's got your back. So that was a really fun vlog. So tomorrow we are taking Margot shopping. We're going to like set a budget. I'm going to dress her. And like, I'm definitely going to sort of like push. Oh, well, I always push, but like, you know, you're pushing an agenda. I'm pushing an agenda. Yeah. I'm a chairwoman. I'm a chairwoman. Yeah. I'm a chairwoman, yeah. - I have a couple of Berkins, like I'm not, like-- - I'm not at Bradley on a budget. - It was a joke that could've died the day that I said it. - No, but it's so good. - And it lived on because of you. - Yeah, but I feel that I have leaned in. - I have cardboarded a little too close to the sun. - Okay, well tomorrow's gonna be really fun. Patreon.com/toast, like we're shopping with Ms. Margot. - I'm gonna be sure to have a fire this morning. - And you can see like my skills in action. - Yeah, no, it isn't, even yesterday, like the bag that I ended up taking, you completely chose. You are a very helpful person. - Yeah, and I'm very encouraging. It's so funny when I was shopping with my friends, and I was saying how like whenever we go shopping, like this is my role, I encourage everyone to like buy everything and they were like, I'm just glad I did the same. Like no, she tells me I look fat. - I'm sure I'm stupid. - Also, like I hate shopping in person. - She tells me everything looks stupid. - I always wanna leave the store, unless it's a store that like has really cozy chairs for like the husbands and cardboard, then I'll be like, yeah, try it on, try it on. But I find shopping in person and in store to be so unpleasant that I'm always dying to leave the store. - I find it so invigorating, and that's why the no influencers sign like really-- - Oh my God, that really hurt me. - Because if someone who loves shopping, if I walked into a store, it would save like no Jews, you know? - Of course. - I can't go here either. - No, and it is funny not to keep, it's like the New Nick Atlanta where we have to talk about it once a day, but this store is benefiting so greatly from all the buzz on social media, like the influencer type of culture, the culture that they're hating on is benefiting them so greatly right now. Like the store is packed, I've heard so much engagement on social media that they've never had. So it's like, don't you hate the player, you hate the game, yet you are the player. Funny how that works, isn't it? Funny. - I thought of one more thing. Wait, I just wanted to say. - Okay, hold on, we'll go back, you try to mention it. Oh, do you remember the store, a big job? - Of course, everyone knows that saleswoman. - Yeah, there was a store in the city, it was like an iconic Upper East Side store. I bet it was featured on Gospel Girl. Like it was so classic, it was like on the, it was on 3rd Avenue. - It wasn't like that, it wasn't high end, but it was so classic. Like it was right next to Haru, the sushi place where everyone on Upper East Side ate, it was just like a very classic place. And it was like, low-key expensive, like regular clothes, you know, it took me to be so expensive. And they had the most insane salespeople there. Like, women. - No, no, no, no, no, it was a company mentality. Like, they, you couldn't walk into the store because people used to joke, they used to like stand outside and pretend like they were getting sucked in. Like, it was the craziest place. I actually bought a ring there once. Like, when I was like 17, I'm like, what am I doing? They had, that's like the worst type of sales associate. It was such a truly like toxic workplace. That place was crazy. - Yeah. - But that strip, if you were like a lie. - I mean, scoop. - Scoop, yeah, like that four-block radius was just like the place to be Atlantic Rail. - Pink, scary. - EJs. - Was that Pink Barrier there? - There's a Pink Barrier second. - No, no, that's not the same strip. - Too high. - Second, we're on 3rd and it's lower. But it's like Atlantic Rail, Haru, Big Drop, J's, Skip, Atlantic Rail. Like those five blocks. That was probably the happiest time of my whole life. Those five blocks. - That and the other thing you said before was that that was the happiest time. Doing the vlog in St. Barts. - Okay, that was the happiest time of my life. - Sorry if it's just like how to happy life. - Yeah, like the more the barrier, the more the barrier. - Yeah, the more the barrier. - So many moments. - We love the happiness. - Yeah. - Yeah. So that's what we were up to. Oh, I watched a lot yesterday. I played with friends and then I came home and like Ben was just ready to go. - I look seriously made monsters. Like I'm just trying to relax him. Ben's like, I want to play Maja. And I never thought like I would be the type where I could try to down Maja games. - Every day, Ben and I. - But it's like how did you other stuff too? - Ben and I look at each other. We're like, Siamese. - You guys are crazy. - We sort of like cut out the middlemen. - Me. - Much like Quince. - Yes, right. No, you've cut me out. - Yeah, because like, sometimes you want a machine. Sometimes you don't. - No, the thing is. - When is the deal? - I mean, I made it my whole personality, but it's like, there is a time and place for it, and like for you guys, no, it's always the time and place. - Except for after dinner. Like that's when I'm not maging. But when you don't want to do something, like you don't do it. But like if you guys were maging. - I'm not flexible. - And I personally, I didn't have the itch in that moment, but like my whole family is maging. Like, yeah, I'm in the mag. - Right. - So that's why like we can't really go by you anymore. - No, and I'm not upset that you guys are-- - And we like love Siamese. - That's great, that's great. That's great. - I'm just a little bit more to starting about like time and place. - I don't know, I don't know, but now like good luck getting a time with us. - I've made genuine monsters. But in a beautiful way. - Yeah. - This is all I wanted, like my whole life. - Yeah. - I always like had an easy time getting bent to play, but I've like wanted you and my sisters like to play mahjong. It's a four person game. - You and my sister says, if I'm not. - You plus the sisters. - I'm not a sister. - I always wanted like we grew up and have a four-year-old start. - It's a four, they already have. - It's a four person game. We have four girls in the house, like perfect. - Yeah. - It's my dream. - Yeah, no, but now it's the time. - It's a reality. - Except like, it's just me and men. - Works for me. When Margot comes, she'll play. - Oh, yeah. Miss Margot, I think she's coming today. Word on the street. - Word on the street. - Oh, and then the other happening of yesterday. Bruno. Bruno's annual pancreatitis flare up has begun. Bruno only gets sick in the amptons. - Because he, as I've told you guys, he eats so much when we're here. There's two. - Bruno is fucking enormous. - Bruno is getting so much weight. There's two children. - Two babies are eating. - Baby-led weaning, he like picks up scraps all day long. And yesterday, like he was throwing up all day and was sick. He obviously has mild pancreatitis, which he gets every summer because it's like this every summer. Like, there's more people in the house. There's more food for him. Just when he's getting back to his OG weight, we go to the amptons. - I know. Like, he needs to spend the summer at a fat camp. - Yeah, I know a place. - A fat camp for dogs. - No, for adults. - Oh, I've been to it. - For dogs. - I think he would love it. - 'Cause yeah, he spends like all year, like, you know. - Trimming down. - Getting shape and he's looking good. And he comes out every summer and he just bulks up. And I feel bad. But you know what, like, it makes him so happy until a point. And now he's sick. - Yeah, he over ate to the point of like, genuine. It was all good and fun until he made me sick. - Until he's not feeling well. So, oh, now Zach is like using this to be like, he's not gonna sleep in the bed with us anymore. - I'm kind of with Zach on that. Like, he was uncontrolled. Oh, I don't know about ever again. He was like, uncontrolled. - No, last night he slept in the crate, he needed that. And he needed to sleep through tonight. Like, no co-sleeping for Bruto. But he was like, I never, and now he's not gonna sleep with us anymore. - That's just like, that's unnecessary. - I would say that. Well, that doesn't work for me. - Yeah. - Does that make it like, co-sleeping with Bruto? - I don't know, 'cause there's so many of us in the bed. We're in my family. - Yeah. - Why does he get a boot? - I don't know why he's a problem. - I don't know either. I was like, that will work. Like, that's stry at clock. Like, if Bruto doesn't get to sleep with us, like, that's-- - What does he get? - All of the love that he gets in the day. Like, I was like, honestly, like, this won't stand. He's like, it's me or Bruno in the bed. I was like, you don't see on the couch. He's like, you don't wanna go there. - This is a battle you're not gonna win. - And last night, like, when I was like tossing, and turning in the night, like, genuinely, was like, this is where it's Bruto, but he needed to be quarantined. But he's trying to, like, use this as a going forward measure, as an excuse for him to never sleep with us again. He's literally not the problem in the bed. Brutey, my feet were so cold 'cause no one was laying on them. - Brutey, actually, like, hate, when Remy lays on my legs. Like, CO2, it's not just Remy, I think. Get off my legs. - Get off my leg, get off. And I wish you a hearty muzzle tove. - You see that comment I sent you? - Yeah. - I got to the mic. - I didn't have a pen. - Pen and paper. - That was funny. - Like, wishing everyone a hearty muzzle tove. Like, it's insane. And look so much muzzle you have in your life. Like, all because of the one wish for me. - The one wish for me. - I'm a powerful, I was a powerful young girl. - You wish for me. - And look, come to fruition. - It's beautiful. - It's beautiful. - Now, it is Thursday. - So I think we've thoroughly, like, combated the allegations of PFFB guests. - Yes, sure. - Of the shortening of the PFFB. - We never, we never, just, like, hide from you. - We've never. It's my personal favorite part of the show. What's your favorite part of the show? - That's an amazing question. It's not really, like, a part. It's, like, sometimes I enter, like, a flow state, you know, where I just can't be stopped. - Okay. - And that's my favorite part. - And when do you feel that happened? - The magic of, of turdy is that, like, it can happen anytime, anywhere. 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You know I can't answer that question, do I? - I know, I know. Well, you could have said Ben. - Oh no, Phil. - Right, right, right. - The food is my best friend. - It's true. - It's such a good listener. (laughs) - It's probably my favorite person to talk to you because it's like the lack of, you know, I don't have to interrupt him 'cause he doesn't really say anything. - So that's you would take on the Outchang Sweepstakes. - Absolutely. - Abs, I'm not gonna let it lie. What is a vibe for the stories today? - Let's find out. - Jackie's iPad is charging. Now that it's charged. - The vibe for the stories today is sort of all over the place, but with like a little bit of fear because I've just been seeing many people yelling at me like about the stories, and it's so funny because like-- - There'll always be a reason. - They'll be like, "Why do you talk about Tony Romo's DUI?" - Oh wait, actually, can we? - We sure can, but then I feel like if I talked about it, people would be like, what are these stories? - If you write it up, I would've been like, "Quashmark, except that the Body Camp on a Chazcon viral." So he definitely was drunk, which is of course like so bad, but I guess like the cop broke a lot of protocols. Like you can, maybe it's like state dependent, but you can decline a field sobriety test, and he like didn't know what to do. So he's like, "Can I call my lawyer?" And they didn't let him. And I think that's illegal. So I do think while he definitely drove drunk, I think that it will get thrown out the guy like broke a lot of rules. - Oh, I bet. - I think you're gonna say like in the other way, like making special treatment for Tony. - No, no, no. And I don't think that the guy knew who Tony Romo was at all, like Tony just kept laughing 'cause they were like, "Have you ever had any head injuries?" They like ask you that when you do the cops sobriety test. And he was like cracking up 'cause he's like a football player, like probably the C2. - He was looking forward to cracking up. - Yeah, yeah. It actually was like a, as far as celebrity body camp footages go, obviously the number one rating queen is Reese Witherspoon. This is a pretty good one for Tony. - Yeah, the thing is like, actually really weirdly, like Tony Romo a lot. Of course, Jessica Simpson has a lot to do with it. And you know me and my like hard line in the sand with the DUI. - Right. - This won't be as easy as Sam Hunt, Bella Deed. - In terms of like cutting them off for my life completely. - Right, right, right, right. Karen, it's a Karen Huber situation. - It's a Karen Huber situation. Like I think Tony Romo is so handsome. And I love what he did with Jessica Simpson during their time together. And I think he has like a really cute wife and kids. It's like, it's actually, I'm sorry. It's insane to drive drunk when you have kids. I'm sorry. Like it's always insane. - It's insane to drive drunk. - Sometimes I can explain it in a way like she was young or whatever. Like you literally have like multiple children at home. Like that's insane and you're so wealthy. And like you're in an urban area. You're in like Dallas, take an Uber. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's like, this is bad. - Yeah, so that's what like people are saying. So today's stories are, yeah, sort of all over the place. I'm sure people will complain. - That's fine. Complaining is engagement. So feel free to air your grievances in the comment section. - And they're in like no particular order. I will say some like even trying to find like what's the lead story. And there's not like a, I mean, if you have it, I would say the lead story is that two couples from La Violin went on Watch Up Side last night. Who is that weird? It was Bryce and Trinity, which I genuinely think like would have been enough. But I think Anti-Leg doesn't really watch the show. And they needed more people. And then of course like industry plants, Carlin and I were there. They were sitting on the barstools behind Brittany and Trice. - Okay. - I cannot say their names. Trinity and Bryce. Oh, I see. - He was sitting so far apart. It was like legit, so weird. I'm there a couple of weird moments and interesting moments. But all in all, I thought it was like actually rude that Trinity and Bryce like didn't get their moment. Like they're the winners. You go on a press tour. Like Carlin and I are three minutes old. Like if I'm Trinity, I'm annoyed. - Yeah. - I won. - Also this is just like kind of weird 'cause there's a reunion coming. - So they've all been like very quiet in terms of podcasts. Like I feel like everyone always goes on. We had Kenzie on Call Her Daddy and that was it. Not even anyone else on Call Her Daddy. And none of the other people, I feel like it has to do with that new peacock contract that we talked about. - Yeah, but then why was Kenzie allowed on? - Because like they don't want to stifle everyone so much that no one's talking about it, you know? I think that they're also waiting for, I think this only helps the reunion. - And then after the reunion everyone goes on podcasts. - There's like less of an embargo on the real files. 'Cause like seriously, Brittany on file files went and like this is their reunity on Call Her Daddy. - Well our story was also gonna be, now our smith went on Call Her Daddy. - Yes she did. It was like very jarring to hear her talking voice. - I know, 'cause it's like she's very much a performer on her Instagram. As like you would probably know, you know? - Yeah, I think a lot of people, I didn't know this but I don't think a lot of people understand her stick and that it is stick. - And she's like sat on the podcast to like set the record straight. - Yeah, that it is satire, which of course it is. She's like I was feeling hungry so I just made it away from scratch. - And then four hours later it was ready like of course if you're hungry. - No and you're wearing like a $10,000 scam rally dress. - You like you can't wait for hours. - Of course, that's where we're always saying like media literacy is an all time low in this country. - And it's also like her content is very much like cooking videos that it's like creating content. - But it's not like her life, her day to day. - That's what she said too. - Like so you can't just because she's in the kitchen making cooking content like you can't label her a tradwife. You don't know how she spends the rest of her day. - Right and I think at first when she first launched on the scene and people didn't really get her myself included she was labeled a tradwife. But if you pay attention for five more minutes I don't consider her a tradwife at all. And she pretty much went on call her daddy to tell people that. Like she does not want to be looped into this conversation. - Yeah, so she's getting candid about being labeled a tradwife and what people get wrong about her. She opened up about crying to her husband about a situation where someone on her team refused to see her as anything other than a tradwife. She said I'd be like what is happening. Did they not know that I worked as a model? I've been working since I've been 14. All these things, but I think I'm very, very compassionate. I understand where that can come from. But then the more the narrative started swelling I was like well let me say something. So I remember posting this video of this morning routine and my voice over was me being a working mom and traveling and kind of debunking all of that. But then a lot of the comments were still that narrative. And I realized that a lot of people that are very stuck in this narrative do not want to be corrected. - True, yeah. I don't really like know what she is because her videos are like a low key comedy. I would say she's really a content creator. - Well yeah, but I mean like what genre of content creation? Like she's not a tradwife. She's not really like giving cooking tips. - I would say cooking, she has a cookbook coming out. - Yeah, I guess, yeah, yeah. - And she is giving cooking tips. Like if you want to, like, - Yeah, it's a real thing from scratch. - It's very, it's like hard to a practical application of policy. - Yeah, but it's very like, she's creating videos that are like silo, she's not, she doesn't have a stream of stories every day. - Right, like come along with me for the day. She's very much not ballerina farm. - No, not at all. She's just friends with ballerina farm which I think made people like gave her the tradwife association even more. - I would say also like being so young and having a lot of children. Like I think people might have used that as another reason to just assume she's a tradwife, but like I think she like makes her cooking video and then like lays by the pool in orders McDonald's. Like yes, she's also Mormon, which I think also gives like a tradwife smell. - Yeah, but she's not like if you really like think about her life at a glance, she's not. - Yeah, and then I think even hearing her talk on this interview even if you just saw the clips and you didn't like watch the whole episode. Like it's her real self. - Yeah, her voice is so different. - Yeah, she doesn't talk like that. - She's like normal voice. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was wearing like jeans at a sweater. - Yeah, not, you know, high fashion. - Correct, couture in the kitchen. - Yeah, so I didn't know she was feeling something misunderstood. I felt like she kind of has like a dream career. - And it's actually like it almost benefits her to be misunderstood in the sense that first of all, it gives her like a real sense of like private and public life, which is huge. And two, like she does benefit, she doesn't want to be called a tradwife. Like that's the topic of the moment. And everyone's talking about you. Like it's just as somebody whose job and it's like get attention and stuff, it does ultimately benefit her. - Yeah, and it just seems like everyone who's called a tradwife is saying I'm not a tradwife. - It's so true, so it's like who is? Who are the tradwives, where are the proud tradwives? - Well, the thing is like if you're a tradwife, whose name we know, you're not a tradwife because you're a working woman and you're generating revenue, probably making more money than your husband. So the tradwives, like the true tradwives are no names. - It's true. - They're your neighbor, you know? - Yeah, and that's just like say at home moms. - Yeah, people who like raise children. - Traditional gender roles. Yes. I think that TradWife is a little bit more extreme in a sense of like make everything from scratch and like they do, you know, granola type. Have the chickens. - Yeah, but like do you say like the bad thing? - No, no, no. Technically I guess anyone who is a traditional wife and like makes dinner for their husband every night and raises the kids. - And doesn't work. - And doesn't work. We would not know who they are. - Correct. - That's true. - Essentially like nobody's a TradWife, right? - Nobody's a TradWife in this conversation that we're having. - Correct. - Right. - And yeah, it's just like, it's so weird. People get so like bogged down by the label of TradWife and then they're like, I'm not, it's like influencer. I'm not an influencer. - Exactly. - Like what's wrong with being an influencer? What's wrong with being a TradWife? - That's exactly what I was saying yesterday that like these female dominated spaces are just like always getting negative connotations. Like TradWife has a negative, like, I'm sorry, nobody wants to hear me, but like I am right about that. - Yeah. Also, I personally, like I'm over the TradWife conversation. - I just feel like it's not a coherent conversation. - We're not hearing that. - No one knows what they're saying. And it's so divisive amongst women. Like we're just like hating people who like live different lives and us and make different choices. And I don't think it's good for us. I don't, and I'm not a hater. - No, me neither. You want to scroll boss to the sun? Slay mama slay, send me a paycheck. If you want to do like legit nothing all day, like slay mama slay, I don't know, have you heard about Ahavad Ava? - Oh, I have, but wait. But you're saying legit nothing again. - Wrong. - Sorry, no, no. But I'm saying, even if you, like, let's say like this, - No, I'm sorry. If you want to do legit nothing all day, I have a problem with that. - Okay, fine, no, you're right. - I have a problem with that. - I'm not me, like, exposing my own misogyny by saying it's doing nothing all day. That's not what I fucking meant. If you want to not work and raise children, cook, tend to your husband, like, - Home mate. - I have seriously no problem with that, like zero. - I knew someone argue it's harder than 95. - Oh, 1,000%. Like, I feel like, I don't even know what to call myself 'cause I'm very much like a stay-at-home working mom. Like, I do genuinely half and half. And I don't know which I would prefer to, like, I prefer to be home all day. - If you had to choose one. - I would prefer to be home all day, but let me tell you what's, like, it's so hard. - Yeah. - It is so hard. You know about Aljave, has she made it to me else? - She has. - It's rage-bait. - Now it is. What did it start out? It was just genuine. She's like this 19 year old girl, she's married and she was like, hi, I'm 19, I don't have a degree, I don't have a job, I cook for my husband. They don't have kids. She's like, I cook for my husband and her whole life is like her husband or husband. And the video, she was a very small content creator. The video went so viral. Of course, like, it started, you know, conversations amongst everyone, like, she went private. She's super young. I start to feel like really bad for her. And she just, like, kind of shut down. And then she came back like a week later and I was so curious, like, what her strategy was gonna be. And she has taken on this, like, very much rage-baiting. She does live this lifestyle. And, like, people think it's crazy, but now all of her videos are like, come with me to lick my ass and ask, like, she's really extreme just to fix people off. And it's funny now, but like, but it is an outsized version of her reality. Like, she is 19. She doesn't work. She just sort of like literally cooks her husband all day and like dresses her husband. And it's like my husband has been. And of course, like, you could argue both sides. Like, it's crazy or it's like, sweet. Like, it's just. - I'll say, I see, I think I saw the original video. I did the original video. - I've not been able to get through a whole video. I don't enjoy the content. - Me neither. Like, I just, I saw one of her, like, making sourdough and like rage baiting about, like, some shit. - Yeah. - And I was like, this isn't, like, enjoyable for me. - No, me neither. But it was like the perfect time for her video to go viral 'cause everyone was like, talking about it. Yes, your year. And it's like, I'm personally so over this conversation. Like, we're just obsessed with what other women do. - And also, like, I want to see, like, real. You know, people, like, I don't want to see your fake. Like, oh, I'm making this like big stupid cake 'cause my husband said he wanted this. Like, I just, like, I want to see people like, doing, like, you know, making life beautiful. And it's not taking them all day, like, in the, in the, in between. You know what I mean? Like, that's what we're all trying to do. We're all busy, we're, they're work, or have kids. And it's like, but you still want to make dinner. So, like, I'm interested in, you want to make your home beautiful. Like, I want to see people who can accomplish not everything, but like, most of everything, you know? And that's very aspirational. - Inspiring, yeah, you know? - Yeah. I'm just like, so over this conversation. Like, it's tired to me at this point. It's like when people were like, I hate the word moist. It's like, it's like, I can't, it's like, it's actually becoming like boring conversation to me. - I agree. And it's also like, it's not actually like, - It's not good for women. - No, but it's, what everyone is saying does not make sense 'cause none of these people are tradwipes. - Correct. - And if they were, like, I wish you a hearty muzzle tove. - Extremely hearty. - Are you ready for our next story? - Mm-hmm. - Some memoir news. - Angela are white. - The artist formerly known as Black China is announcing her new memoirs. It's called "Sober Mine." Letting go of Black China and living my face. I love this. First of all, I had literally forgotten about Black China, which is just a testament to how well she's doing. Her journey is so inspiring. Like, I actually think that this book will change lives. I would love to learn, like, how she did it. Like, she really turned her life around completely. It's very rare to see people like truly change in the public eye, like, so holy. And she did that. And I think that, of course, there'll be interesting tidbits in there about the Kardashians and, like, you know, I think that while she was struggling a lot, they did pick up a lot of the responsibilities when it came to dream. And I think now, even like the whole lawsuit thing, like, is awkward. I am curious, like, what her feeling about them is 'cause, like, they did support her. Like, maybe not in ways that she thought at the time, like, now and hindsight, when she couldn't really be there. Yeah, they did do a lot. My only concern with the book is, like, it sounds a little, like, it's a little bit more, like, self-help me, unless, like, memoir. Like, this is what happened to me. So it says, like, for years, people knew me for headlines, opinions and assumptions, but now they'll have the opportunity to hear directly from my heart. So, we're mine is not just a story about where I've been. It's about who got, who God helped me become. There were times I felt broken, lost ashamed, and I would never get another chance. I know what it feels like to have people judge you for your worst moments while never seeing your heart. This book is proof that no matter how far you fall, healing is possible. No, I mean, I love, but you're right. Like, hopefully it's, like, pulling from her own experience. Yeah. But regardless, like. I think she will have to tell her whole story in order to, like, get to the part of, like, the healing in the faith. So we'll get those years, like, from her POV. I'm curious what the status is of, like, their relationship, the co-parenting with Rob. Mm-hmm. I feel like you could tell for a while that Dream was, like, always with the Kardashians. It's just because they share so much. And, like, literally every picture, every sleep over Chloe's house, Chloe's is. And doesn't it appear to be that way so much anymore? Anything for her kids, like, she does it for Dream. For Dream, yeah. Like, if she's getting something, like, I don't know, it's always three of them. It's true. Because if she has three, yeah, it is. And it then when she had her necklace, like, she had, like, T for True, Tatum, and she had a D for Dream. And she got a lot of shit for that. But, like, at the time, I think she really was, like, taking on so much of the parenting responsibility. No, when it's like, Dream is always in her house, and, like, she's wearing a necklace with the two kids, like, it's for Dream. It's not. And it's, like, sure, maybe people will have something to say about it, but, like, I think Chloe only cares what Dream thinks about it. Yeah. I don't know if it doesn't appear to be, like, that extreme anymore. I know they do include Dream and stuff on, like, cousins stuff, of course. But it doesn't look like she's, like, living a Chloe's house. Would we even know? Because, like, when we don't follow them, like, it's. Chloe doesn't share so much. But she still shares a lot, like, I've had the kids, too. And we haven't had a new season in a while. We haven't had a new season. So, I don't really know. I just, like, hope that, you know. And I just feel like the last time I saw Chloe do something I'd, like, remember thinking, like, oh, it's three. Right. No, it was three for a while. Yeah. I guess we'll find out in the memoirs. But this sounds really good. You know what? I need to look this up. That Madison Beer has a memoir. Coming out or already out? Already out. I think we should read it. I actually, like, want. Memories of a beer? To just confirm that. That's what I mean when I say, like, the strangest career of all time. Well, you know, Miley Cyrus also has miles to go. I feel like it's, like, a miles to go sort of vibe. Like a young adult. No, no, no, that's her story. It's her story, but it's, like, they're short, like, you know. Madison Beer. The half of it. A memoir. It looks moody. 4.16 on Goodreads. That's really good. Would me this synopsis? I will. It came out in 2023, so, like, relatively relevant. A memoir from singer or songwriter, Madison Beer, chronic the past decade of her life spent in the spotlight. The ups, the downs, and the in-betweens that you won't see on social media. Discovered at 12 years old, Madison Beer was one of the first artists to have her entire life documented online. Over the past decade, she has navigated the spotlight as a child through her teenage years and now as a young woman in her 20s. In the half of it, Madison pulls back the curtain to show the behind the scenes of her journey from reckoning with mass hate online, and the time her private pictures were lead to battling suicidal thoughts while making her highly acclaimed debut album, life support, and her recovery since then. I kind of want to read it. Yes, she does. It's a hundred crazy stories. 176 pages. Very reasonable. You did that the day. So, could you? I'm okay. You like love her. I do. And I feel like I know. No, I feel like there's, like, a, I saw a clip of her talking on a podcast about, like, when her label dropped her and everyone, and everyone dropped her, like, was that what she went on call her daddy? Why did everyone drop her? That's what I mean. I think she was, like, low-key black bald because of, like, the whole Justin Bieber Scooter-Bronding. But it sounded like she was canceled, like, in a day, everyone dropped her. So that's a cancellation. Not just, like, a, we are slowly disassociating from you. Perhaps it had something to do with, like, what she did when she was super young. Like, I, like, nude photos, like, maybe, like, now you would never drop a young girl for having, like, her privacy invaded, but back in the day, it was, like, you're a slut. Yeah. Maybe. Do it. I think I will, but I also have to read the next. I was watching Josh Herbert. Oh my gosh. This is what I wanted to say. I finished off campus. - Oh my God, leading story. - That's what I meant to share with the class. - And what a show. What a show I seriously was crying during the pop show case. - I know. - Like it was so good, the show was so amazing. I don't know what's wrong with the world that it was like so misrepresented in terms of like, "Are you watching on campus?" "Ooh, I have to watch in private." - Yeah. - There's really like nothing that crazed about it. - It's about a lot of heart. - Considering how much nudity and pornography were accustomed to. - Are accustomed to, like this was really not anything different. So much heart. Like I love so many characters. And I really like, I wasn't loving Allie in the beginning of the show. And I was like, "I will definitely be missing season two." By the end, like Allie. - I love Dean. - I love Dean. Allie and Dean are everything to me. - Agreed. - This hunter-debt import wrench is just so crazy. - I know. - And then Han and Garrett, like I'm so happy for them. I really needed them to like, stop being broken up. Like that was what it was. - It was like very painful to watch them be broken up. - It was. The only thing I didn't love was like their reunion scene after the pop showcase. Like I didn't like what he was saying. - But I don't remember. - He was just saying like, it was actually kind of icky 'cause her song was like the girl I am today. - Right. - It's not who I was. - Because of the girl I used to be. So it's all about like the girl she is. And he was like, the girl that you are. Like I want to be more like the girl that you are. And like, I was like, "You want to be a girl?" (laughing) - I'm acting up that you wrote a stuff. - I guess, yeah. - I just thought, I was just waiting for him to be like, I love you. Like I need to be with you. - Yeah. - I love you. - That's all I need to do. - I want to be like that girl. - I want to be like you. - Ew. - I guess. - Don't be like me. - Be her own. - I was just like so excited to see them together. Like I was no less saying. - No, 'cause I just like needed them to say like, the obvious which is like, I love you so much. Like I only want to be with you. Not like I want to be a girl like you. - I'm seriously cracking up. (laughing) I'm so glad you like the show. Like seriously. - Like truly loved it. I think there's something wrong with everyone in my life that there was like a huge conversation. Like would she look at it? - You are seriously like impossible to predict. Like you, I love that for me. - You can't put you in a box. Like don't blame us. Okay, I don't. Don't. - Okay, you know what? I like being impossible to predict. You can put me in a box. I would agree with that. - Great. - But of course I loved the show. It had so much heart and soul. And it was just, it was gripping stuff. - It was gripping stuff. - And the gargant, like you get it. - I do, but for me the show, it was like my takeaway from the show was in the gargant, gargant, gargant, gargant, gargant. - Oh my no. - My takeaway from the show was like love and love winds. - And healing. - Of course. - There's a lot of healing that needed to be done that she did at the pop showcase. I'm glad she didn't win the pop showcase 'cause like then it would've been too long. - Oh really? - But her song was, - No, so you can't win a competition you entered five minutes before. - Yeah. - Her song was really good. - Mm-hmm. - When she like was doing her pop showcase and which was so raise your voice, by the way. - Yes. - Yes. - And she like looked out and she saw all of them like sitting there in the front row. - In the front row. - In the front row. - Not just gargant, but like she has all these friends. - Friends, yes. - She had like two friends at the show. - And she was like loser, yeah. - Yeah, and it just was, and like jewels is her friend. And like it was just this testament to like the girl she is today. - Mm-hmm. - Is because of the girl she used to be. - A thousand percent. - It was so beautiful. - Oh, I love, I'm so glad to hear that. So that was my only note. Like the reunion scene didn't get what it needed to take. - That's fair. Looking forward to season two. - Of course. - I'm sad for having you. - Well missed it for the world. - And I love team. - Me too. - I really do. - Me too. - Dilarentes. - Dean Dilarentes. And Bo, his friend is apparently a football player. Bo Maxwell. - In real life. - No, no, no, like in the show. That's why he's not on the hockey team. - Oh, he might be from like in this universe. Like another franchise where the woman who wrote the book has like a bunch of football books. Do you know what I mean? - Got it. Well, team might be. - He might be. - He might be. - He's not a hockey player. - God, I didn't get the sense that he was. I thought he was like a random. But the fact that he's football makes me think that there's another series coming about the football players. - Okay, and then also like I can't get over the injustice that they lost all the games that they played all season. And confusion because Garrett suspended for four games and he's ineligible for all the games that he played earlier in the season. But after these four games he can play again? - Yeah. - But he did the practice getting bronze. - That's him getting off, like Scott Frey. - No, but he did the practice with the Bruins. If they said he's not eligible to be a college hockey player because he did the practice with the Bruins. Why can he play again in four games? - I don't know. - So I'll have to talk to him. - I don't want to. - I'll talk to him and he'll have to play about that. - Yes, please do. - So yeah, so what, those are my thoughts. Are you ready for our next story? Which seriously, like I didn't know this was happening, but I needed to know. - Wow. - Jacob Tremblay. - Of course. - He's playing the Unibomb or Ted Koshinsky. And first look at troubling new Netflix film. So Ted Koshinsky is the Unibomber and he will be played by Jacob Tremblay. He will be starring as the infamous domestic terrorist who coordinated and carried out a series of male bombings that persisted for nearly two decades. And Netflix is forthcoming film out this September. Now you guys might be wondering like why this is a big deal. And if you don't know who Jacob Tremblay is, he's the little boy from room and the little boy who literally stole the hearts of Americans many years ago. He's continued to work in a couple of capacities, but I think he's maintained like a pretty decent childhood. He's a wonder, but like a couple of movies. He doesn't know. He does a lot of movies, but like he's a kid. So he's like also, he's not a celebrity. - Right. But this, I think this is like his foray into adulthood. This is the role of a lifetime. - Yeah, because the movie, this movie zeroes in on his early years, including his time as a student under controversial Harvard professor Henry Murray. So the Unibomber went to Harvard. And I think there was like a bunch of like really like twisted experiments conducted at that time at Harvard, which is like a lot of people don't know about that time. So it like focuses on what happened there. The Unibomber included, but like it was just a like a crazy thing that happened. But I'm a little fearful because I'm reading like the description that it's like sympathetic towards the Unibomber. - You know what I'm like kind of afraid to bring this up, but like are you familiar with what's going on with Lindsey Clancy? - I see headlines from the New York Times. - It's like really upsetting. So this is a woman on trial because she killed her three kids, like confirmed it's not like a, yeah. So obviously like guilty. But when you learn about like what, I know it's like not me giving sympathy to like the woman who killed her kids, but like what she went through. Like she experienced something called postpartum psychosis and she went to like 100 doctors who like over prescribed her. She was on like so many antidepressants. She literally went to her doctor said I'm hallucinating. I don't know what's real. And like all these doctors like genuinely failed her to the point where like she was in psychosis and she killed her three kids. Like so I feel, I don't even know how to feel about it 'cause it's like when you hear about what her experience was up until that point, you're like, well, like nobody helped her. And like her husband's on trial and it's like, where were you? Like, and but then she also like killed her three kids. So it's like where do we go from here? I don't know. - That's crazy. - It's a really crazy story. - Yeah. - That's, I don't know what's gonna happen. Like like she did kill them. - Yeah. But there is this like insanely lengthy medical record of her like seriously like not being okay for an extremely long time. - Yeah and sometimes like when people even if they kill like they're like mentally unfit. - Right, so it's like do you get off for that? I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen. - That's really sad. - It's really crazy. I don't really like want to get so into it 'cause it's like very upsetting. - Yeah, it says here like the movie is the tale of a young man who feels increasingly disenfranchised by society and decides to take up violence as a means of revenge. - Oh, so it's giving like Unabomber origin story. - Yeah, like being bad for him. - Right, so how many people did he kill? Like, hundreds? - Dozens. - I think it's told across two Thailand, so the creation and then the capture of him. - You know like Unabomber is this sort of blind spot for me even though you did recently explain to me like who he was and so I know a little bit more but maybe this Jacob Tremley movie is like what I need. Also I am gonna watch 'cause also another blind spot for me is the Idaho murders. But apparently Netflix just released an amazing documentary about it. So I think I'm gonna watch that. - Yeah, that 'cause the trial's gonna be happening as well. - Because the trial's gonna be happening or coming up. - Brian, code number. - I thought the trial's over. - Oh, is it? - Yeah. - All right, so I guess I'll find out in the documentary. - Yeah, what happened? - Yeah. - Tremley said it felt crucial for him to paint Kaczynski as a real person. - Oh, Jacob, not even your mom or sympathizer. - I wanted him to feel real. I drew for my, I guess yes, you're playing a human being. You want them to feel real but like, I don't know, it's giving a little bit too much like pass for the Unabomber. And you know that the Unabomber is like sort of like becoming like a heroic figure to people like Saddam Hussein. - Okay, so we'll be watching the Unabomber. - I think so. - I think so. - Yeah. - Whatever. - Number four. - No. - We've actually done like a lot of stories within our story. - I will be ready for our next story. - Because it is our next story that's brought to you by Amazon Music. - Claudia, I was looking at my phone this morning and realized my home screen is embarrassing. I have a different app for everything I'm listening to. Music in one place, podcasts in another, audiobooks somewhere else. It's just too much. - I get it, sweeper here, here to help. You do not have to live like that to my sister. If you're constantly bouncing between apps, just to find something to listen to, there's a better way. It's Amazon Music. 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But let me tell you, I've such a warm and fuzzy feeling about the show. - Of course. - It's so nostalgic. And it's like very straightforward. Like, who wants to be a millionaire? Like, yes, please. - Yeah. - What are the questions? They answered the 15th and final question correctly to take home the grand prize, which will go to Ben's foundation, the Eastern Congo initiative. - Oh, that's nice. - So the episode began with them only having two questions left. First was the $500,000 question, which was, what achievement occurred just two months after a New York Times article said it wouldn't happen for 1 million to 10 million years? - Okay. - These are your choices. The first airplane flight, splitting the atom, cloning a mammal, and the polio vaccine. - Okay, the New York Times is wrong. Nothing like putting them on blast. But what would the New York Times like, I historically be wrong about? Like, read it again the last four. The first airplane flight. - No, I feel like that's not the answer. - Splitting the atom. Like, I don't know when the atom was split, but was the New York Times up and running then? I feel like, no. - What is splitting the atom? - I don't know. I know it was like a huge medical scientific advancement. - Cloning a mammal. Can we do that? Still? I guess. - Okay, what was the fourth one? Polio vaccine. - No, I don't think they would have said like a vaccine million times away. - Like a million years away. - I guess like maybe splitting the atom. But what was the third one? Cloning a mammal. Okay, I'm gonna go like B or C. I really don't know, it's hard. So, I'll tell you how it went down. They initially thought it was the first airplane flight, both of them. He had been said. I only remember this because it was a time in my life where I spent time looking up examples that the press got things wrong. Yeah, just randomly. And I sort of vaguely, in my subconscious, remember the times in the Wright brothers and that whole thing was like 1905, three or four, something. Then they phoned a friend, or they decided to use the 50-50 lifeline to eliminate two answers. - Oh my God, okay. - Heading them to choose from splitting the atom and the first airplane. - Oh, so A and B. - A and B. And the correct answer, which they got correct, was the first airplane. - Oh my God, okay, obviously I got that wrong, like. - Then the million dollar question. Okay, so I would have been out, but continue. - In an annual Thanksgiving tradition, all but which of these have been the names of turkeys pardoned by a U.S. president. - Okay, I'm never gonna get this. - Who would ever know this? Peanut butter and jelly. Tater and tot. - Are there two turkeys? - Why are they all end. - Turkeys, I guess they pardon two turkeys. - Tater and tot, Mac and cheese. And spaghetti and meatball. - Okay, read them again. - Peanut butter and jelly. Tater and tot. Mac and cheese, spaghetti and meatball. So I was thinking like, obviously something that could be Thanksgiving food, which is tater and tot, right, you could have. - I would say actually tater and tot are the only ones that are like, there's not already an end in tater tot. There's mac and cheese, spaghetti and meatball. Things on your Thanksgiving table could be tater, tot. What was the third one? - Mac and cheese. - Yeah, not peanut butter and jelly. - But also not, what was the fourth and meatball? - But you could make spaghetti and meatball from turkey. Or so is that rude to name a mat? - Does that rubbing it in? - Yeah, 'cause that's the only meat product. - Oh, that's good. - Let's go with that. - spaghetti and meatball, final answer. - Even though I hate a turkey meatball. - I'm gonna go with, that's really good. That's an outlier. - But so is tater and tot. - Well, I don't think that there's a rhyme or a reason. I think that like three of them just were and one of them wasn't. - If I had turkeys, I might want to name them tater and tot. I think those are cute. - Okay, I like our reasoning for spaghetti and meatball. Let's go spaghetti and meatball. They phone to friend, L-O-O-L. - But Ding's friend didn't answer in time. - Oh my God. - They took Kimmel's advice and chose spaghetti and meatball winning a million dollars. - Oh, we were right. - We were right. - Look at us. - We should go on. - Oh my God. There are a couple of game shows, like I might do good at. Obviously, Family Feudah, I would do good at. I know that I would. Who wants to be millionaire? The questions are so hard. I almost, anytime I've ever watched, I've never even gotten one right. - No, but it's like the early questions are supposed to be easier. So I would love to know what those questions were. 'Cause like these two, honestly, I have no clue. - I would do good. I would do like decent at Jeopardy. Like when I watch from home, I get a couple. Like I'm not gonna win by any means. We're not gonna embarrass myself. Family Feud, of course. We look fortunate and sleigh. - I don't think I would do good at Family Feud. I'm really not in step with like what? - With culture. You are not in step with culture. - You know? - Yeah. - And I just wouldn't be what the survey says. Surveys says, yeah. - Every time Jackie's on. I would be like the first person. Like they go, like they always have like the dad, like at the front or a parent. - Yeah. - I just feel like that's the strongest player. I would be up there. - You think you're gonna be the strongest. - I watch a lot. So yeah. - No. I wanna like be responsible for my own self. Not like what other freaks are thinking. - Yeah, that's true. You can only be responsible for what you put out into this world. - You know? So I just feel like I don't wanna work with others. - I love that it still makes news when someone gets all the questions, right? Like it doesn't happen a lot. - Well now it's like celebrity also. - Yeah. Who remembers the game show, The Wall? - So good. - You do. - I talk about it all the time. It's one of the best shows I've ever seen my whole life. - Are you ready for our fifth and final story? - I am. - Miley Cyrus reveals that she's working on a new album that's a love story. - I believe that the reveal also shows that she got her teeth fixed. - Did she say that? - No, but like, I saw footage from this. - I didn't know there was a problem. - Well, I think a lot of people started having the conversation about Beneers about Miley Cyrus. Like, she had her snaggle tooth, which I loved, but of course she wanted to fix it, and she ended up like getting these huge Beneers that like didn't even fit in her mouth, and it was like kind of like, people were talking about it a lot. It appears that she got the best. - Oh, okay. Well, she revealed that she's working on a new album that's a love story while speaking with actress Darryl Hannah. - For wonders. - Of course. Of course, the actress Darryl Hannah from Love Story. - This album is a love story, but love stories are never one dimensional. - Oh, for sure. - They're honestly saying love story, like in front of Darryl Hannah, that's fucking rude. 'Cause you know Darryl Hannah wrote a piece in the New York Times, but how mad she wasn't, right? And if you make your look like the biggest loser ever in that show. - They're always layered. There's definitely a romantic thread weaving through it all because like all of my records are a reflection of where I am in my life. She said the upcoming album feels especially meaningful because this feeling has stayed with me throughout multiple eras. That's something I hadn't really experienced before. A peaceful kind of love has become a theme across my last three records. Yeah, she's been with her man's Max Morondo. - True, for a really long time. - For a very long time. And she ain't. - Can't even talk about it 'cause he's not famous. - They're not interested by it. - Right. - But this is clearly like it for her. - Amazing. - Like I love that, especially with the Rando. Like that's good. - Yeah. - Huge. - I'm excited to hear new music from Miley. - They do. - Like. - It appears she's also going back to her rock era, just based on the loops. - Where was she last? We saw her. Something beautiful. - Flowers. - Yeah, that's like two albums a couple hours. Something beautiful really came and went. - Yeah, that was like more like visual. It was a visual album. - Yeah. - Right, exactly. So I don't really know, I didn't catch the visuals so I don't know what the vibe was. - I think I nailed it. - So I would love to love a story album, even though I feel like that's what Taylor is 'cause she is doing next. - True, but Taylor's next album should be called Love Story. Like because like that's like her origin song. It's like one of Travis' favorites. It's like come up in their relationship. - It's come like the anthem of their wedding. - Yeah. - Love Story. - Or yeah, or we get like a love story sequel song, you know? It's like the sister song to love story. - That's so cute. - Yeah. - The older sister song. - He's back at camp. So like they're back in the real world. I don't know if they went on like an official honeymoon or anything, but I saw this morning he was photographed. - I saw. - I trained in camp. So like-- - Good. - The honeymoon is over, back to work. - That's good. They've had like a nice chunk of time, but like, you know, Adelstonis is the devil's workshop. - It's so true. Like you need to miss your man. - Yeah, you need a working man. - Oh, you need a man with a job. That's actually like just a non-negotiable for women everywhere. - Yeah. - So that's good news. And maybe she like finally has some time to herself. She can go through her picks, like make a carousel. - Right, perhaps upload to the Instagram. Perhaps upload to the Gram. - Although at this point, I've just sort of come to terms with us not getting anything. - That way, I can only be ever. - Yeah. - I think that would be wrong. - I agree. But if I think that, then I can only be surprised in a positive way. I can't be locked down. - I think she owes it to the fans. - I think she does too. - The whole world. - The whole world has been rooting for this. - And we also, there was a time where like, she like demanded so much respect for her private life. And we all really did. Like we let, we understood she couldn't walk. The right carpentry, like we all just sort of understood these rules, but obviously when she married someone who was like not so miserable, she realized she didn't need to have all those rules. And so it's like, yeah, let us in now. We respected it at the time, but like now, like it's fun. - And like you had your wedding, you had your privacy, and you've had weeks of it just being for you guys. But like you have millions of adoring fans who have just been like waiting for this and are so happy for you and like feed them. - Uh, speed us. - Feed us. - I'm speaking in the third. - Yeah, of course. Well, those were the stories. And yes, I would agree that they were insanely all in the place, but I enjoyed everything. - But I feel like we covered a lot of ground. So if you're like gonna complain about yes, like. - Oh, you didn't cover sports. We talked about 20 more more. Oh, you didn't cover music. - We talked about Nara as he is like. - If you look, it's just like the description of today's episode, like you might have been like, what's going on at this show. - But you don't realize it's what's in between the lines. - There's a method. - No, no, and it's like in between every story, we like added another story. - It's true. We probably did like seven or eight today. - And that's beautiful. Well, thank you. - Amo J. - Amo J. You choose. Okay, I'll choose the pen to paper emoji where you're writing something. - Why? - I got it to the mic. - Oh wow, press record. - Nish. - Nish reference from the episode. - Well, just make a decision, yeah. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of the Learning Morning Show. We'd love to know the fast stories. You need to know everybody on YouTube, so you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe because video thumbs up, we're also available as podcasts and we're podcasts going to be found. 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