Lock In, Chat: Trump Goes All-In on AI

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They're coming from a government watchdog and coal power plants can go back to the old days. Their reading of the Clean Air Act is that it does not cover greenhouse gas emissions in this capacity. The new rule from the EPA and what it means for the planet. From ABC News, this is Start Here. I'm Brad Milky. The artificial intelligence revolution has been compared to the Gold Rush, the oil boom. Multiple tech experts have likened it to something bigger. They say it's more like the advent of electricity. But here's the thing. I don't recall Thomas Edison begging the government to reign in the power of the electron. John D. Rockefeller was not calling on his colleagues to just cool little little. Let's all take a breath. And yet in recent days, that is what has been happening in the tech world. A couple days ago on CBS, Dorio Amade, the CEO of Anthropic, said the technology he has helped develop is already in desperate need of reform. I won't lie to you, there are real dangers. And I think for too long, the industry lied to people about the fact that this technology had risked. And this is the thing. Nothing surprised Steve Jobs about the power of personal computing. He could see miles away how his creations were about to change the world. If anyone should be able to wrap their heads around the power of AI, it's someone like Amade. But he says he's even been surprised. I don't think I fully just appreciated what it would actually be like when the progress was as fast as it was yesterday. You could feel this damn breaking around Washington. All the public distrust of AI came bubbling to the surface. Politicians and CEOs, they're not stupid. They've seen this turn coming. And anyone running for election knows that AI is quickly turning into less of a golden ticket and a golden weight around your neck. But President Trump is not up for election. And yesterday, he doubled down on his position. We'll steam ahead. Let's start the day with ABC's Elizabeth Sholze who covers business and tech policy in DC. In fact, she's at the Capitol now. Elizabeth, a lot happening yesterday in the AI space. What is the word from the White House? A lot happening in a space where things are moving very quickly already, Brad. So President Trump is flatly rejecting those dire warnings that you just laid out from these top AI companies. But I think you have a lot of negative voices and bringing it up. That shouldn't be bringing it up. And they're bringing up things that won't happen. He said, outright in a post, the only control or guardrails that AI needs is a strong and smart, high IQ president and the USA has that in spades. Completely dismissing the idea that something needs to be done imminently to control this technology before humans lose control of it. And the president went even further, Brad, and saying that the idea that AI is a threat to humanity, those ominous warnings we've heard from AI researchers in just the last couple of days, he called that a hoax. He said, this is a hoax, it's not happening. We're leading China in AI. We're most sophisticated country in the world. And frankly, I want to keep it that way. And the president continues to point to an argument that the US needs to go full speed ahead on AI so that it does not lose ground to China, which is a sentiment that we are hearing also on Capitol Hill from a lot of Republicans, including House Speaker Mike Johnson, who said, this ultimately comes down to, yes, perhaps there are need for guardrails, but we shouldn't rush into this, he said, because we have to compete in this AI race with China. Mr. President, you're now talking to the party. And there was a very unusual moment yesterday where President Trump called the CEO of Nvidia. Of course, the main company that makes these AI chips, kind of the infrastructure of AI. And Jensen Wong, the CEO of Nvidia, was at a conference and he put the president on Speaker and the president doubled down on that message that the US will win this AI race that they will not lose to China. (laughing) Clearly trying to make a public show that this is something that he cares about even despite these concerns from the AI companies themselves. But that's funny that Mike Johnson's been like, oh, let's not be rash here in moving away from AI when the AI folks are saying, actually, we might have been too rash already. But here's my question, Elizabeth. What would Congress conceivably even do? And what would they need President Trump to sign off on? I get that he doesn't want to, but what options are there? There are a series of proposals floating around here ranging from strict crackdowns on AI to more of a partnership between the government and the private sector. One idea that is gaining a lot of traction, Brad, is this idea of an AI kill switch. And this is a bipartisan piece of legislation sponsored by a Republican and a Democrat in the House. And the idea is not that the government has a kill switch, but that the company, so anthropic, open AI, are required to have a system in place where if these models go rogue, if they start to hack another company, if they do something nefarious, there is a kill switch where they can be turned off. It sounds like something out of sci-fi. But that idea does seem to be gaining some traction. But I will say, even that, the traction is limited. I think we should definitely be scared. And we need to make sure that humans control AI not the other way around. I had the chance to speak with both of the lawmakers behind this bill. Democratic Representative Ted Liu said, "We need to be doing this right now. The risk is there. We have already seen these open AI models go rogue, and we need to put this legislation into place ASAP." We need to pause and make sure that any policy that we put forward is reasonable, it's prudent, it's thought out. The Republican Representative, Amanda Moran, basically said, "There's actually not a huge rush to do this." He said, "The reality is, the house is only in this week, and then they're out through the midterms, and they can come back and work on this then." And that's exactly what Mike Johnson said, too. But the anthropic guy is saying, "It might take six months before all the bots just can take over the internet." Exactly. I even briefly caught up with an open AI executive who is here on the hill yesterday, meeting with these lawmakers, talking about the need to get something done. At the same time, the lawmakers are saying, "I actually there's an election in November, we'll think about this later." And even acknowledging, Brad, that they are behind on this, which is something I think wouldn't be a surprise to the American public when you think about kind of how long it can take for Congress, and these lawmakers to grasp what's happening. It's hard enough to understand what these tech companies are saying in the first place. But this is the thing, as you just mentioned, there's an election coming up. And I got to imagine Elizabeth, I mean, you cover politics, but you also cover economics. How does the economy tie into all this? And where does that put particularly, you know, President Trump does that tie into how he's thinking about this, of Go, Go, Go. It could help explain, Brad, why we are seeing the president so bullish on AI, even despite these ominous warnings, because the reality is that AI has been propping up the American economy. Fed Chair Kevin Moore said in a highly watched speech last month that more than half of all of the investment from companies in the economy, so far over the past year, has been attributed to artificial intelligence. It is notable that some big AI companies, their stocks actually dropped in trading yesterday, on the back of these headlines, that something needs to be on to slow down AI, that could be a problem for the stock market, it could be a problem for the economy, and that might be something the president wants to avoid. I was gonna say, if all of a sudden open AI and anthropic go from being, you know, one in two in the AI space two, five in six, and all the Chinese companies are leapfrogging them, if the stock market plummets, that means people's pensions are plummeting, that means people 401Ks are plummeting, and all, if all that's happening October, November, like good luck holding on to the House of the Senate. And just keep in mind in all of that, Brad, that anthropic is still on track to go public as soon as next month, and what is expected to be one of the biggest initial public offerings ever, so they would be making money if they go public, that could happen in a matter of weeks. - Right, absolutely huge stakes here. Elizabeth Sholesi, at Capitol Hill, thank you so much. - Thanks, Brad. - Next up on Start here, whatever you've heard about alligator alcatraz, this report says it might have been even worse. We're back in a bit. This show is sponsored by Trust & Will. Let's talk about something no one really wants to talk about out loud. What happens to us when we die? Unfortunately, it's gonna happen, right? So, if you wanna make sure your family is protected, the way you'd like them to be after you're gone, it's important to act ahead of time and document your wishes now, clearly and securely. That's where Trust & Will comes in. 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It was even built along an airport runway, meaning deportation flights could take off just feet away. Well, yesterday, the inspector general from the Department of Homeland Security released a report outlining conditions at this now-defunct facility, and the living quarters alone, if you could call them that, were shocking to many. We're joined now by ABC's Armando Garcia, who covers immigration armando. First off, what was the IG looking at here? There was a wide range of complaints about this place already, right? Yeah, Brad. The Office of Inspector General is the independent committee that reviews and investigates conditions at these kinds of facilities. They typically make unannounced visits and write up a report based on their findings. This so-called alligator alcatraz was the subject of several lawsuits challenging conditions, operations, and the environmental impact that the facility posed, being right there in the middle of the Everglades. It operated for less than a year, housed around 20,000 detainees during that time, and it cost a whopping $1.2 million daily to operate according to an ABC analysis of documents. So since they make these typically unannounced visits, and then they write up a report based on their findings, in this case, the IG said that they made the unannounced visit in January and found that within the first six months of operations, 790 detainees had been confined in these very small metal enclosures. Yeah, tell me about the metal things. These look like cages to me, Armando, like tall cages. Is that the way they're being described here or what are the findings? In this report, the IG said, quote, the use of such restrictive spaces is highly unconventional and does not align with standards for humane treatment. Staff at the facility called these enclosures calming areas, they also alleged that some detainees actually asked to spend time there, that they weren't locked, even though the IG said that in its inspection of the facility, they saw locking mechanisms on the doors to these enclosures. Detainees typically spent under two hours there. And by the way, Armando, it's so much of this, because it's temporary, seemed like a lot of it was just open to the elements. Is that the case with these enclosures as well? Well, that's exactly right. And the IG also found several alarming issues here. They found cramped conditions. The conditions were invariable about 80 to a cage, sleeping on the floor. Lights were left on continuously, open toilets in order to use the facility. Lack of access to clean drinking water for some detainees. For hygiene protocols, detainees were only allowed to shower three times a week instead of the daily showers that standards require. There is quite literally human waste on the floors underneath them almost at all times. And they also found insect infestations in those shower areas. They refused to clean it, they laugh at them about it, they purposely leave them in squalid conditions. Additionally, they found detainees were not offered sufficient recreational opportunities. All issues they said could pose significant health risks to detainees. But perhaps more nitty gritty, but not to be overlooked, the IG also found that there was a gray area regarding who actually operated the facility and which standards they needed to follow. Their iced detainees in a state-run facility where ice also operated. So the lines were blurred from the start, essentially. When they rolled out the facility, then the DHS Secretary Christy Noam promised Florida officials would be repaid for the facility, when the IG visited, they said they hadn't been repaid. But since then, FEMA has allocated over $600 million to repassate agencies there. So the Department of Homeland Security defends, they say alligator alcatraz, they're fine with this name for the record. They say it was consistent with the same federal detention standards employed by previous administrations, including Biden and Obama, all detainee facilities are clean. Any allegations of inhumane conditions or excessive use of force are false. And quote, they also referred further comment to the state of Florida, because Governor Ron DeSantis was also involved in the creation of this. I mean, what's he saying? Yeah, Governor Ron DeSantis said that he had not reviewed the report yet. Some of this stuff is going to be characterized in a certain way, no matter what. But I can tell you, when they set it up, their goal was not only to meet the federal standards, but to actually exceed the federal standards. And he did defend conditions there a few months ago when the facility actually closed. He said that this was always meant to be a temporary facility. But big picture here, Brad, it's important to note that, you know, opponents of the Trump administrations policies have rallied, protested against conditions at this facility, but also others across the country saying that they're meant to be cruel and punitive. It's important to remember that it's not only criminals that can end up in detention. These could be people who came here legally, then law status, are actively fighting deportation, applying for other forms of relief like asylum, and those who have violated immigration laws, which typically are civil offenses, not criminal ones. Yeah, right. Like, this was a place you go before you necessarily see a judge in many cases, which every American knows, like, you very well might be jailed when you are innocent sometimes. That's why you get to see a judge, all right? A Marno Garcia. Thank you so much. Thanks, Brad. Here in New York City, most new buildings have this sign in their ground floor windows, advertising what's known as an energy efficiency score. How much energy are you using every day? Do your lights go off when no one's in the room? How insulated are your walls, that heat and AC aren't escaping? And while all this stuff does matter, you can also make you wonder how important is it really? You're like, this is an Arby's or my local H&M. What about like a power plant? How much of those buildings amitting? Well, under President Joe Biden, the Environmental Protection Agency instituted new rules on exactly how much greenhouse gas American power plants were able to belch into the atmosphere. This Biden administration proposal marks the first major effort by the federal government to actually limit emissions on power plants that are already in operation. Yesterday, though, under President Trump, the EPA announced it is rolling back those guidelines and it wants to enact some new reforms as well. ABC's Matthew Glasser covers climate and science, Matthew. What is happening right now? What's the EPA doing here? Sure. So on Monday, the EPA announced that they were repealing these 2024 greenhouse gas emission regulations that the Biden administration had put in place for existing coal power plants and natural gas plants that would be built in the future. And basically what those regulations said is that they had to cut 90% of their carbon pollution. The kind of pollution that leads to global warming by 2039. And they could use technologies like carbon capture, carbon storage to do that. They could burn different kinds of fuel in the case of natural gas plants. But they had to reach that goal of 90%. On Monday, the EPA said that the EPA back in the Biden administration exceeded their legal authority. Their reading of the Clean Air Act is that it does not cover greenhouse gas emissions in this capacity that the EPA back in 2024 exceeded their authority by putting these regulations in place. They also say that the technology just isn't suitable to do what the Biden administration was requiring these power plants to do. And therefore, it put them at risk of shutting down. And as you know, President Trump has made energy a big part of his presidency, they're deeply concerned that this would force power plants to have to shut down because they couldn't abide by these requirements. Like, if you want to shut us down, shut us down. But like, we're not gonna be able to operate a coal power plant under these rules. It's just not possible, they're saying. - Correct, they're saying, you know, it sounds great on paper, but there's no way that power plants can cut their greenhouse gas emissions by 90% with the current technology. They also make an interesting case that it really doesn't matter that when you take the amount of greenhouse gas emissions from these power plants, they are arguing that it doesn't contribute significantly to climate change. You know, they're not outright saying climate change is not real, they're saying that in this particular case, it really doesn't matter that much. And we shouldn't put this regulatory burden on these power plants when their emissions really isn't contributing all that much to the problem. Now, the reality is power plants, power generation, is the second largest emitter of greenhouse gas emissions in the U.S. accounts for about 24%. Even higher if you look globally. So it is a big contributor of these greenhouse gases, which science has shown is the leading contributor to climate change and global warming. But in the eyes of the administration, they feel that it's negligible. And therefore not worthy of the regulatory burden that would be placed on them. And they point to the fact that they say that with the repealing of these regulations, they're gonna save over $300 billion in energy costs, both with the industry and for American consumers. - Well, so, I guess I'm trying to figure out, will this just get undone then by the next Democrat who comes into office? 'Cause at this point, it does feel like when it comes to these government agencies, Democrat president says, "You're gonna do this." Republican president says, "No, you're not." And then it just keep going back and forth. Does this change anything fundamentally? - So there's two parts of this. One is the final rule that's repealing the Biden era power plant emissions rules. But then there's a proposed rule that's still gonna have to go through public comment, where they're proposing to get rid of all the remaining greenhouse gas regulations for power plants. So in this first step, they're getting rid of these particular 2024 ones, but they then wanna go further. They wanna say that we shouldn't be regulating greenhouse gases at all, that the Clean Air Act does not give the EPA the authority to do that, that this courts, especially recent court opinions, do not give us the authority to do that. And therefore we should repeal all greenhouse gas emissions from power plants period. They're also making the claim that by changing that and by clarifying that, it will make it harder for future administrations, future EPAs to undo that. Now a lot of this is gonna be decided in the courts. A lot of the people we spoke to, environmental groups, climate groups, have said that they're going to challenge this. So a lot of what they can and cannot do in the future will be determined in a courtroom. What's so interesting in all of this conversation is there's very little talk about the science itself. Now they do say that they don't feel that the greenhouse gas emissions from power plants have a significant impact on human health and well-being, but they don't really get into whether or not greenhouse gas emissions are causing climate change or global warming, because the science now is much stronger than it's ever been. And I think that would be sort of a fool's errand to go down that path. Rather, they're saying it doesn't matter whether greenhouse gas emissions cause climate change. What matters is do we have this statutory authority? Are we following the law? And in the case of this EPA, they're saying, no, we're not. We can't do this. And therefore the 2024 Biden administration aired in implementing these regulations. - But that is interesting what you said. That this current Supreme Court has said at times that the Obama and Biden White House has kind of let agencies overstep their bounds and kind of constricted what these agencies are able to regulate. We'll see how that ends up affecting the EPA here. Big news here, Matthew Glasser, thank you so much. - Thank you. - Okay, one more quick break. When we come back like the song says, I don't want to miss a thing. So I'm going to be here on the other side of the break. One last thing is next. What do you think is the best way to make this happen? Carelessly or out of turn, you wasn't. A Space Force spokesperson later put out a written statement confirming what Meng said. Adding these weapons can be used offensively or defensively. So again, what are you doing with a gun in space? Well a few things. One is not clear what forms these weapons take. Weapons can be kinetic like guns or missiles or rockets. Or they can be non-kinetic. Computer viruses or weapons. There are electromagnetic weapons, Meng declined to answer specific questions about these ones. Two, this isn't necessarily new. In fact, it's likely not new. It's long been suspected the US government has maintained some kind of weaponry in space to, at the very least, make sure other countries don't try to disable our equipment. Which leads to number three. If we have had weapons in space for years, why say any of this now? Well, multiple times, this Space Force spokesperson mentioned China and Russia by name. Quote, the US has warned about Russian and Chinese weapons testing and operationalization since 2007. Due to their actions, it is no longer a question that space is a war-fighting domain. Translation? This is your last warning shot. The Trump administration has made it clear it plans to add more weapons to space. It's got a whole program called the Golden Dome that, among other things, would seek to have missile interceptors standing by in orbit. The question now is how much more weaponized space could become. After all, in the movie Armageddon, the gun did not end up doing a lot of damage. The nuclear bomb they sent up there made a much bigger impact. Start the show with AI taking over the internet. Now we got space weapons. Hey, another otherworldly story. Actually, Senator Mitch McConnell arrived at the Senate last night to vote exactly three months after that fall that landed him in the hospital. He was in a wheelchair. He spoke to reporters. He did seem cheerful, if a bit frail. He said he's still not 100%, but he's ready to work. More on all these stories on ABC News Live, wherever you stream live news. I'm Brad Milky. See you tomorrow. Hello, I'm Shannon Maldonado. I'm the director of Artesan, and I'm also the director of Jaui Lajakaopan Perusta. I'm a fan of the show because I'm looking forward to seeing you again at the show. I have been looking forward to seeing you at the show. 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