Lindsey Vonn On What It Takes To Be The Best, The Mindset To Overcome Anything & The Courage To Start Again

Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostick and Michael Bostick together they are the Bostics. Today we're sitting down with an absolute icon Lindsey Vaughn is one of the most decorated American ski racers in history and today we're getting into what it actually takes to operate in a elite level for decades and what she has learned about longevity and moon health resilience and listening to your body were necessary. Like that Lindsey Vaughn, welcome to the Bostics. So we talked off Aaron I told you I would really like for you to elaborate on all the sacrifices that it's taken for you to be such a high performer and maybe you can sort of like walk us through someone you were young some like maybe in high school give us like some sacrifices that people haven't seen. Yeah I guess like when did you even start getting into athletics like since you were very little or? Yeah I mean I started skiing when I was two and a half and then I started racing when I was seven. I knew I wanted to be an Olympian when I was nine I met my childhood idol and since then I was just like this is what I want to do and my dad and I made a 10 year plan of how it was going to make the next Olympic so you know I've always been a pretty goal-oriented like determined person or child but there was a lot of sacrifices I mean I think namely my family sacrificed a lot. We moved from Minnesota to Colorado so I could ski I'm the oldest of five kids the youngest three or triplets and so everyone gave up a lot for me to be able to to pursue this crazy dream of going 85 miles an hour down the mountain but you know I didn't really have I would say at normal childhood or really that much of a childhood in general I didn't really get to do the sleepovers you know when I was younger in high school I really wasn't in high school I did online study for a lot of it I was in a ski academy so we're juggling you know academics and sports and there's no prom there's no parties there's really focused on skiing athletics getting the school done as quickly as possible so I can get on the mountain and it's hours you know hours and hours and hours in the gym on the mountain you know I've been going to like summer training camps since I was seven you know every summer was not spent you know at the amusement park or hanging with friends it was spent on the mountain training so. Did that bother you or resonate with you as you were a kid or did you were you so focused on the goal that it didn't? I I never really noticed you know I I I knew that other kids especially when I was in high school you know we're all partying and and I just didn't really find the excitement because also a lot of my friends were racers and they partied and then didn't ski very well and like to me that just doesn't seem like the ROI on that is it doesn't add up you know for me I I I knew that if I went to bed early and I I did what I was supposed to that meant that I was going to ski faster and I'd rather do that than I don't know feel like shit hungover. Wait so you're telling me that if I take my daughter and I make her focus on the Olympics she won't party she won't go to sleepovers. She has to she has to want to be in the Olympics first. Well you have to throw her down the hill at 85 miles an hour though. Listen if that I'd rather maybe throw her down the hill than some weird sleepover. Yeah I mean I don't know. I think I think you avoided yeah it's a good thing to avoid this. Can you reflect now on your childhood is there anything that you would change or do you look at it like it's all happened for me. You know I think everything happens for a reason all the mistakes you know when I was younger or older they all kind of led me down this path and I wouldn't change anything I think my parents did an amazing job with what they had you know I think in the moment I was like some of this stuff felt really hard but it made me a stronger person and I never felt like I was missing anything as a kid I always was a happy kid and I enjoyed obviously I love skiing but I enjoyed hard working hard as well. Do you think doing what you did gave you a really great sense of confidence? Yeah absolutely but I also felt like because I didn't have a lot of social interaction with people outside of the mountain I definitely wasn't as confident in real life as I was on the mountain you know on the mountain I knew exactly what I was doing and I walked in with my head high and my chest out but in kind of other social situations I think I struggled or just took me a little bit longer to kind of find my way then maybe it took others. I would think that the quietness and stillness that you experience when you're on that mountain is so grounding and so almost addicting is that how it is. I love it. I've never experienced it. I'm not the best skier so you have to tell me about it. Well you have to do it I mean it's honestly and I feel like the world moves so fast these days and there's so much crap and distraction and noise and you know emails and calls and when you're on the mountain it's just it's quiet you know it can be sometimes too cold but it's just quiet and peaceful and I love being the first one on the mountain watching the sunrise on a sunny day there's literally nothing better in the world. I love skiing I but I think we've decided Michael's good. I mean it's hard. I'm not going to say I'm good in front of you I can I can ski. I'm not really the the barometer for good. Well I think I can at least I can ski I'm a normal skier I can always look and make it down and like get down pretty much it's an opera ski part. But this other fucker took me on a double black diamond I don't know I think I was rolling down not being throwing my poles at him like it's the heat he threw me on a double black I can't even ski. But her dad lies to me and tells me that she's like a professional tennis player a professional skier and opera singer and I mean I dropped that was a job I can't carry a tune Michael. But we've decided she's a maybe going to be a large wife like she's more like the opera is she's a snow bunny yeah yeah there's nothing wrong with being a snow bunny I got some good vanski clothes you look really good perfect all wear a ski but by the way I can be a leisurely skier why can't I just go down greens for the rest of my life that's great okay that's all you need honestly like as long as you can get down that's all that matters I do other things we don't use yeah like I'm sorry that I don't ski that I'm not your perfect ski but it's okay okay so what are some things that you mentioned big sacrifices but what are some micro sacrifices meaning what are little things that you do differently on a day-to-day basis that than other people I mean it's kind of everything you know instead of sleeping in an extra hour I'm up early in the gym like even now I'm not competing but you know I'm making daily choices that I think most people are at least my friends are like I don't know how you do that and it's just kind of ingrained in me this motivation to you know always try harder or try my best every day so I can get better even though you know again I'm not competing I still I still strive for more so whether it's you know making sure I go to the gym when I'm traveling whether it's eating right like I pack a lunch on the plane so that I'm not you know eating plain food like I've always got almonds on me or like hardball digs like I'm I'm a weirdo with that stuff but it's like little choices that I make every day that you might not notice but when I was competing it was obviously much bigger sacrifices that were very clear and I my you know my social life was non-existent you know especially in this last two-year window what I was doing the comeback you know I'm just at home literally every morning every afternoon grinding there's there's no time for anything else I didn't I didn't really see very many people for majority of the summer dear friends understand yeah they do that's why my three friends are are two of them I grew up with since I was seven and one of them I've known for 25 years and I don't really have many friends outside of that I've good acquaintances but like those three are core and they they know that if I'm not calling them they're just going to keep harassing me until I one day have time to call them back and you know that's just kind of I understand my my limitations as a friend I'm not you know unfortunate to be the person that's always there but if you really need me I will drop everything at the height of your career what did your actual training routine look like I prefer just for context for people yeah I mean I think there was a time especially in my peak when I I think overtrained but I was doing three sessions a day I was doing about an hour of cardio before breakfast breakfast then like two two two to three hour weightlifting session or athletic like track and field session then I would have lunch take a break take a nap do a strength session the afternoon therapy dinner bed like that's kind of my day and for I guess just like out of ignorance like what does a typical strength training session look like for a professional skier like is it you know like about I go to the gym which is you're doing like full body stuff because I'm not competing for anything but for you is there specific things that you're training more than others yeah I mean you know our legs are the most important thing for us so I'm mainly training lower body obviously we rotate so that you're not hitting the same muscle group every day but we do a lot of squats front squat back squat a lot of cleans deadlift you know kind of like the heavy Olympic lifting exercises because for us we need to be able to hand an extreme amount of G-Force. So we have to be able to withstand eccentric force. So that's why we do super heavy eccentric loading and squats are one of the most important things for us. But you kind of have to also be agile. So for us, we can't just be, you know, linear and only doing lifting. We have to be able to functionally move. And so we have to do agilities. And it's a really interesting sport in that way. Training for us is not like most sports. We have to be kind of good at everything. No, that's why I asked because just like, again, like as a novice skier. It's a different kind of soreness and a different kind of workout than the typical things, right? You've said that you want to separate Lindsay the person from Lindsay the skier. What does that mean? I think it's mostly and I figured this out when I retired in 2019 is just that I am not what I do. I'm Lindsay. I'm a person. I love skiing, but it's not who I am. And I think as an athlete, sometimes it's really hard to separate those two things because our, I mean, our lives as an athlete is, are focused around the success and kind of your identity is built into that. And if you're successful, if you're successful or not successful, are you, are you a worthwhile person? What is your value as a person? And my value is not tied to whether I succeed on the mountain or not. And that's something that I had to work through. Most athletes have to at some point or another. When you become a champion and you're winning all of these things, is there sort of like a crazy astronaut syndrome where you get to the top and you've done it and then regular life feels weird. I definitely feel like regular life is a little too slow for me. I totally understand. I'm not pedestrian. I like to move fast and work hard and go, go, go. And sometimes I think I fill my plate too much because I just want to keep doing things and it's not giving me enough excitement or adrenaline. But then I get exhausted and I have to recalibrate myself. So I am trying to find the balance of what is exciting and keeping me motivated while also not being completely exhausted. How do you recalibrate? Like what are little things that you do? I mean, it's pretty simple. I have a really easy routine. It's law and order. My dog and Ben and Jerry's like it's it's what's the flavor? You got to play the tonic, you know, throw in the mix. But what's the flavor of the Ben and Jerry's half baked? And there's like a Oreo mint chip that's really good. Okay. I got to try that. That sounds really good. Yeah. How would you advise our audience to find confidence in themselves if they're feeling maybe insecure or not confident? I mean, it's really hard. I think what I tell the kids anyways from my foundation is that you're unique for a reason. You know, the reason why your special is because you're different. And you need to lean into that. Don't run away from it. I feel like everyone nowadays wants to be the same. Look the same. Act the same. We look perfect on Instagram. Everything's perfect. Perfect. But no one's perfect. And it's like accepting those flaws in ourselves is I think the best way to build confidence in ourselves because I think comparing to other people is is how you lose sight of who you are and and that confidence for me. Anyways, and when I look at Instagram, I'm like, well, shit, what have I done in my life? And no, it's seriously. And I'm like, I don't have a yacht in Greece. And you know, like what am I doing? How do I? I mean, like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm not perfect. And I don't pretend to be. And sometimes I just have to remember that. And nothing on Instagram is real. I mean, I once sat behind a woman on an airplane this summer. And she spent the entire two hours photoshopping one picture. And I was like, this is how you become insecure. Like, just be yourself. Like, I've stretched marks. I'm not perfect. This is who I am. And I think we just need to accept who we are and find confidence in our uniqueness. I love that. How do you deal with pressure? And I'm asking this in the context of like, you've been on the world stage with basically the world watching. You're like, have you always been able to handle high pressure situation? There's something you had to learn. And how do you think about it now? I had to learn how to handle it. I mean, I dealt with it a lot as a kid because my family sacrificed so much for me. I knew that like, I can't, I can't miss these opportunities. You know, my family's giving up their lives, you know, moving to a different state, unhappy because I'm trying to pursue my dream. So, you know, when I was even 12 years old, I raised in this international race. And my dad said, whoever wins this race always goes on to win world cups. And so I felt this extreme amount of pressure at 12 years old. And I learned just by trial and error how to like call myself down through breathing. Because I was panicking. I was in the start gate. I was in second place. And I was like, I have to win, have to win. And then I was like, I'm not going to win if I do that. So I, I don't know, I just, I figured it out. And since then, I kind of use this breathing technique to call myself down. But it's, it's a lot of practice. And, and I also try to think about pressure as something that, it's like something in our minds that we just put on ourselves. If I ski nervous, I'm not going to win. It's just, I'm just not. So I kind of look at it logically. Why would I be nervous then? I might as well ski the best that I can if I make a mistake. I'm probably going to ski better making that mistake than if I was nervous anyway. So why not just go for it? And that's how I logically kind of get through it. But over time, I really grew to love the pressure. It really got me going. It got my adrenaline pumping. And in the end, like when I was retired, I really missed it. And when I came back, I don't know, that's the one thing that I was so happy to have back is like being in the starting gate with all the pressure and being able to just give it everything I have. It's such an amazing feeling. It's such an opportunity. Pressure is an opportunity. Have you ever been able to duplicate the feeling of that pressure outside of sports? No, not even close. Really? Like there's nothing. Public speaking in front of thousands of people might get me a little nervous, but it's not the feeling of like, because it's not just being focused or being mentally present. It's also the use of physicality, that like physical aggressiveness that I just don't find anywhere else, unfortunately. I imagine that's a challenge for a lot of athletes as they retire. Yeah. If you can't duplicate that, there's no way. I mean, a lot of athletes kind of go in the opposite direction. They never want to do their sport again, because either they they burnt out from it or they know they can't replicate it, so they try to completely do something different. And I don't think for me, I can ever get rid of skiing. I just love skiing so much. It's something that's always brought me joy, even long before I was racing. But I think that's the biggest struggle that athletes have. And I think there's a lot of, you know, unfortunate, you know, addiction problems that come out of it because you're searching for something this high that you'll never find anywhere else. And it just sucks that an athlete's, you know, our career span is so short. Yeah, but you seem to have a lot of self-awareness around this topic. But I mean, you're still very young. I mean, a lot of people don't think come to that. In my world, I'm a grandma. I think we're on the same age. So I'm going to say we're very young. We're young. We're very young, but like, yeah, I mean, a lot of people like I just don't think have that kind of awareness. No, for sure. And I think that's what gave me an advantage this last year, racing was that, you know, I was number one in the world in downhill and number two was 21 years old. And so my life perception is much different than a 21 year old. And it gives me a lot of confidence, you know, having that perspective. But it took a lot of time, you know, I retired for six years. So I was fully away from ski racing. And I learned a lot about myself, you know, and I've been around a lot of athletes. And I asked a lot of athletes questions, you know, how are you dealing with retirement? And every single person gave me a completely different answer. What did you do when you were retired for six years? I did a lot of business, a lot of BC stuff. I'm on the board of a few things like the Olympic broadcast services and cell GP USA. And I advise a sports fund with Avenue Capital. And and I did a lot of personal investing. So, you know, like a lot of business stuff. I have my foundation, of course, and my ski line. And, you know, and thankfully I've been able to partner with amazing people and companies like in Bivid and, you know, like Red Bull and Rolex and Land Rover. All those companies are still my sponsors. They never left me even though I retired for six years. So what makes you come out of retirement? I got my knee replaced. And that really changed everything for me because I retired in 2019 because I just had too many surgeries. I was skiing with No LCL and like three tibial plateau fractures on my left knee and a bone bruise on my right knee, like two knee braces and I was like, what am I doing here? Like this is too much I need to stop. And so I stopped and then I thought, you know, after ski racing, my knee would get better. And it didn't like not being active actually made it worse. So I had to continue with my physical training and I just got to the point where I was like, I can't even do a 20 minute walk with my friend seven-year-old kid. So I need to figure it out. And I got, I did a lot of research and I got a new replacement. And then I was doing things that I hadn't done in, you know, 10, 15 years. And I felt like a fresh teenager ready to go again. So I just thought I'd do it. Maybe you need to get your back replaced. No, I'm going to have, I'm going to have robot arms at one point and robot legs. I'm going to be a whole. Just don't get a robot dick. No, no, no, you never, you never know. That's too much. Yeah, that's for me. You never know. So I want to change the subject real quick. Well, we can get it. No, I'll change it. I'll do a transition. So when you start to get into the business world, how do you decide like where you're going to focus and how do you decide who to say yes to and who to say no to? As I imagine at that time, you've probably had all sorts of people throwing themselves at you and all sorts of opportunities. Like how did you have the clarity of which direction to go? I mean, it's a combination of what is the business or what is the product and who is running the business. And that's kind of how I've operated in my life or my career before in ski racing when I think about partnerships, sponsorships, who are the people and the people make the company. And I've been with these companies for like 20 years, like Under Armour, I'm one of the longest standing athletes is because I believed in Kevin Plank, the CEO. They really didn't have any women's product when I joined, but I believed in him. And so when I look at companies to invest in or partner with, it's the same theory. You know, I want to build not just investing money or partnering, but I want to build like a long-term relationship with these people in this company. So if the person or the people are not good people, I'm not going to do business with them regardless. When you're competing for a living and then you get into the business world, how does the competitive edge come into business for you? I think it kind of has to do with like performance almost like when I go in to try to raise money for different funds, you know, I'm performing. I have to be on, I have to know my shit, you know, I can't make any mistakes because people are relying on me. And that kind of, I look at it as like a similar type of pressure and I think I kind of hype it up to myself to make it like see more challenging just so that like I can kind of get a little bit more of a thrill out of it, but being, you know, on like live television, you know, this kind of stuff where you don't have any reviews, you know, there's no second take. I need to have everything done on the first take. I do the best when I have to get it done on the first take. Is your day to day on zooms? Is it meetings in person? What's it, or is it different every single day? I mean, when I was retired the first time, yeah, a lot of zooms, especially during COVID, obviously, you know, I think so much, so much was getting done over zoom. But now it's more in person and when we do fundraising, it's more in person and a lot of conferences. I'm doing a lot of public speaking, which has been really rewarding. You know, I was just in Vegas, you know, in front of like 3,000 people and it was fun. It's hard to make, you know, people in AI laugh. I always try to make jokes and it was more challenging than most, but I did it. I want to talk to you about antibodies. Okay. First of all, I think just to give the audience a little lay of the land, what is from a kindergarten digestible sentence, an antibody? Anybody is really what your body has to protect against germs and toxin. It's like really what helps you prevent from getting sick or if you are sick, get better. Your body naturally has them and it's like our natural kind of alarm system, like the house has an alarm system, like anybody is or what you have inside of you to help protect against intruders. Like any foreign substance or infection or germs, that's what we need and have to protect ourselves. And why is it so important when it comes to being an athlete? And why did you get so interested in the topic? Well, you know, my whole career, I've really tried to be extremely cautious about getting sick. You know, if you think about it, if you get sick at the Olympics, you're screwed. And what happens in that? You're screwed. You're screwed. You have to find a way to perform sick and it is really hard when you've been waiting four years, you know, or your entire life at these Olympics and and you're sick. So actually what I did before the 2010 Olympics was when I flew over from Europe, I was wearing like gloves and a mask and obviously this is 2010. So long before, you know, COVID, but that was how I traveled before big events so that I wasn't exposed to too many germs, I stayed away from buffets, like all of these little choices that I tried to just prevent myself from getting sick and same goes for this last Olympics. Their, my entire team was sick before the Olympics. I wasn't. I literally removed myself one to a different hotel. They were all like incubated and like they're all in the germ, germ fest over there and I. You're like a real life bubble boy. Really? But I mean, that's, that's what it takes and, you know, I try to obviously make smart choices to not just prevent myself from being around germs, but like, you know, simple things like just sleeping a lot and trying to avoid stress with obviously is really hard when you're competing. But in daily life, I think it's hard for people to really understand that anybody is really what's protecting you, but also the choices that you can make to help yourself from getting sick. If you go to anybody's dot com for anybody dot com, it's really a baseline, like there's like a cute little test that you can do and you can get gold silver bronze. Unfortunately, I didn't win. I didn't, I have a little too much stress to, I failed one of the questions, but it's just a good baseline for you to really understand like the choices that you make every day that are going to help you prevent from getting, prevent yourself from getting sick. So for me, I'm like, I'm, I always want to share whatever knowledge that I have because, you know, ski racing in my career as an athlete. I've learned a lot about myself, my body, my health. And it's not just about being strong physically or mentally. It's also what's going on the inside. And so I think for me, just being able to share information about health and wellness has been something that's given me a lot of joy and something that's positive. And what made you want to partner with and vivid for this campaign? Like I said, I just want to help people, you know, I, this is just an educational, like endeavor that I am, I'm happy to be a part of because it's sharing important information that's hopefully helping people. Like I said, my, my career has been based on my body and my health. And if I'm not sharing the information that I know, I think that's selfish. How do you think people at home can make their antibodies function the best of the best? Is there things they can do? Yeah. There's a lot of things. I mean, being very simple, sleep more, eat well, try to limit stress, which is obviously really hard to do sometimes. But I think when you, like for me, I was really sick last week and I know why I was traveling too much. I was on a lot of planes. I wasn't sleeping enough and so I had, I took the time to just, you know, try to get eight hours of sleep, eat well, I didn't work for five days and I got better and it's, it seems like really obvious and simple. But I think we forget how important sleep is. It's not just a thing that we need to do to function. It's a need, a thing that we need to do to stay healthy as well. What are you like when you lose? Oh, that's the thing I'm not a good loser. I mean, I'm a good sportsman. I always congratulate my competition, but I am, I'm hard on myself because usually if I lost, it's because I made a mistake and so I'm like, I'm always like really analyzing myself. What did I do? How did I do it wrong? What could I have done better? Like how can we as a team work better together so that we don't like they can help me not make this mistake again? And I get pretty upset for a couple of hours and then once I've processed it, then I move on and I'm like, it's completely out of my mind. Okay. So you can get rid of it pretty quick. You're not stuck. I don't hang on. I'm not hang or honor. No. Well, what do you mean a mistake? Explain that to someone. I don't know what that means. Like you moved your ski wrong. What does that mean? It's really cute. You got a bump in the snow, what are you hitting? No, it's like if I ski the wrong line, you know, and it's a little maybe too complicated. But in our sport, we have one inspection where we look at the course and then we have to go 75 miles an hour. and ski the exact right line okay and sometimes we misjudge because we're going too fast because things happened and we just didn't get to the right line so oftentimes that's my biggest mistake because I didn't hit the line right um sometimes I just get a little ahead of myself I want to go fast and I I like just I'm kind of like a bull in a china shop I just kind of go and I get too aggressive and I cut the line and and I make mistakes that way um and sometimes which just happened unfortunately where I get a report from a coach or from another athlete that's not right for me and I listen to that and I change my game plan and it's wrong. What do you mean like they tell you they give you advice on what they think you should do and you don't like the advice or you well the thing is like I'm relying a lot on my team right my coaches they're on the course periodically throughout um and they tell me how it's running what the other athletes are doing and in one particular instance this last year I was told that I needed to have a wider direction so that I could come into this jump with with um the right direction and and it was wrong I could have gone much tighter I went too far I ended up losing the race by a couple hundredths and that was easily a couple of tenths so I lost the race because of one gate and it's not necessarily the coaches fault like other athletes were doing it but it wasn't the right line for me not I can sometimes ski a different line than the other athletes and but yeah I was I was a little bit upset with that one I'm curious how your parents when you were young handled you when you lost like what did they say to you my dad was he's a lawyer and so he's pretty straightforward um like you made a mistake once at the Olympics when I got bronze um someone reporter asked him when I where I could have skied faster and he said from the start to the finish so my dad can be my dad can be a hard ask but I mean I'm even though he's harsh there's no one harsher than myself so it's not like that ever really bothered me and and I also need straightforward um advice to know you know what I'm where I can be better I I want to be better I don't want to you know um pretend that I was perfect I wasn't clearly I didn't win I made a mistake um but yeah if a guy has dated you in the past do you take them skiing I mean I have um is that crushing for them I feel like that's almost a mask no I'm actually a very patient instructor and all my friends they're like can you teach our kids and our other friends because I'm I try to break skiing down in the simplest form and I don't judge I'm not out there trying to go fast with people I just want them to enjoy it so I'm actually really even that was never the reason why I broke up with people was because I won skiing so the guys never got skiing with you and like they're they're they're getting upset and throwing poles because they can't do it like they're not getting frustrated no I've never had that happen okay I've had it happen with you know what so it's a very lived experience for someone like me who's not a very good skier what are the basic little tips that you would give someone um stand up stand tall and okay focus on pizza like just pizza we don't need to go french fries you could you could stick with pizza and you'd be fine did you hear that you're trying to get me in french fries right french fries are great but you know you don't need it like I went skiing with ashagram and she was whole area but I was really just yelling pizza pretty much the whole way down so you can just go down slow it doesn't need to be so you don't need to go fast you just need to get down what is someone wants to go fast that what's the track then you need then you need french fries I think that yeah that couple like I don't think I should try to teach her I think we should always just have somebody that that's what they do and then they can do that part because Michael thinks skiing though is a fashion show too he has a whole look no no it's such a fashion show it is a fashion show I mean what other sport like can you really get that like dressed up it's true yeah no true it's like I guess like ten it no tennis is not really and tennis is cute you can you can be cute for a woman I know guys are guys are guys shorts and it's like do I do the like the muscle T I don't know what are some beauty tips this audience is very interested sorry Michael in beauty skin those kinds of things what are some beauty things that you adhere to I mean honestly like I'm pretty simple I'm not I don't really have time like I'm more of an efficiency type person like I got one oil and one cream and like sometimes I try to wear like I'm ass on the plane but I'm not really like my best friend is an esthetician and I try really hard to do what she tells me to do but I generally just somehow forget or like don't have time so I'm just simple I like don't wash my face with any cleansers I literally just have one oil one lotion well you look great strong antibodies thanks literally I mean sleep like being healthy like all these like all these choices that I make they they do add up I think trying to have less sugar not drinking like I have some vices like ice cream but generally like a lot of those things make you really inflamed like alcohol inflames you so like your face your eyes that adds up and so yeah but you will have a drink here in there I do yeah you know gin and tonic now and again nice bottle wine from a like romantic date but not really I I've found over time that just doesn't make me feel good if someone is listening and they're struggling with motivation how would you sort of coach them I mean I really think that if you look at like what are your goals you know what are you trying to achieve and then make your decisions based on that if you're if you don't give a shit and you're like fuck it I just want to be me like great go don't sleep go drink do whatever you want to do but if you want you know to look good and feel good you have to make the right choices you know if you want to be healthy you have to live a healthy lifestyle um you know even if I'm like traveling on the road like I get hard boiled eggs and avocado you know I try not everything has butter and salt and you know it's fried and I try whenever I can to just simplify it make it as healthy as possible um and of course you know again like I'm not perfect so I have some pizza and burgers everyone's in a while but it's like just make those small choices every day and it will add up but it's consistency yeah I mean if I can I do um I think the sauna especially if you have a choice of one of the other the sauna is the more important one um there's some conflicting research for women in cold plunges I'm not sure the answer on that but I generally like it because it makes my knees feel good um but the sauna is like how you detox your body and when you're doing this much traveling like you said you're leaving for Milan tonight how are you staying healthy you mentioned bringing food on the plane but are you do you have like a weight lifting routine when you're there will you just wait till you come back oh no there's gyms why every hotel that I go to has to have a gym that's like my number one thing um and even if it's just 30 minutes like even if I just bike for 30 minutes or I'm on the elliptical or I you know do a quick leg routine I always have to get in the gym a little bit every day um not just because of I need it physically because I need it mentally it helps me um and it helps me combat jet leg I always carry a ton of hand sanitizer like wet wipes I'm like you know trying to like limit the amount of germs that I'm in contact with so that I I don't get sick I mean again like if the antibodies are a real thing and whenever I can try to protect myself I do um but traveling is hard like it is the number one thing I think for me that gets me sick so I try to do the best I can with it I imagine you as I'm hearing you talking you might have a and tell me if I'm wrong a difficult time in relationships with people that don't have personal discipline and some kind of goal like yeah it's like I don't care if you work at McDonald's but you have to be you have to have a goal like you know do you want to be a manager do you want to you know you have to be have some sort of ambition in life you know it's not the scale of ambition it's just that it has to exist with the new and and I find generally that people that don't work out very much lack that type of personal motivation a personal discipline um you know and I think that's really important to have in life so I take it my life too seriously in that way like I want too much for myself to be with someone that doesn't care enough about themselves I mean it's just so foreign and counter to how you've lived your entire life yeah exactly it's like I can relate I honestly have never ever even consider dating someone that isn't driven, isn't a driven person in some way because I just can't. - But I imagine just even in like your friendships, is like people gotta have some kind of personal discipline or drive or something like that. - I know my friends since I was seven, so I don't know where to go. - You have a bunch of losers and I was kidding. I'm just kidding. - They're probably great. - They're very different, they're very driven, but they're very different people. And we all have very different lifestyles. One lives in Minnesota with two kids. One lives in Montana with two kids. The rest, like Park City. But they, I mean, they all juggle a lot. They have full-time jobs with kids. I don't know how they do it. They're incredibly impressive, but yeah, I just also, like, where do I meet friends? It's also something I struggle with. Like, if I wanna have new friends, where does one meet friends? - That is a hard debacle, right? - Yeah. I think you have to have a really good set of friends, like to your point that you've known for a long time. It is hard to go and meet friends, though. - I didn't go to college, so I don't have college friends. I didn't really necessarily go to high schools. I have some people that I knew growing up, but we're not close anymore. And I don't have kids, so I'm not in the PTA and, you know, meet other-- - We have kids who are not in the PTA, either. - Really, you guys are in PTA. - No, that's by, that's very intentional. - I didn't beg you guys for PTA. - Yeah, no, you're not PTA. You're the cool parents. - No, no, we're not PTA. - I don't know if we're the cool parents, just we're definitely not the PTA parents. I don't know if there's anything wrong with the PTA parents. - No, there's PTA parents are great. We all need them. - What is the Lindsay supplement stack? - I'm working on something. I can't tell you when it's coming out or what it is, but I'll tell you that I've really, really struggled even as an athlete, finding vitamins that are, that I understand that are good for me as a woman, you know, most companies that I have done research on, they say like, women's, you know, stack or whatever. And it's literally the same as the man's, but it might be one difference. Like one different vitamin, the rest are exactly the same. And we need much, we need different things than men that's clear. I definitely take creatine and protein almost every day, definitely creatine every day, protein almost every day depends on what I'm doing. I, because I'm an Olympic athlete, I can't do peptides or any of that stuff, nor what I want to really. - Wait, is that cheating? - Yeah. - I can't do anything. - I didn't know that. So if someone gets caught taking a peptide and the Olympics, that's cheating. - Yeah, for sure. - I did not know that. - I got a lot to learn about these Olympics. - Yeah, there's a lot. Like we can really have nothing. It's like, and everything that we do take has to be sports certified. So it's like third party tested. It's, I, because I had such a hard time finding vitamins in this last comeback specifically, I would do like blood tests and then get custom vitamins made for me that were then tested again, third party. So I had like, they're all certified. 'Cause I'm scared, you know, like if the machine that makes my vitamins made some other substance like a steroid or something, and it mixes, then I'm positive. - What's the content that you consume? What content do you let it? Meaning like podcasts, reading, like, who are you following on Instagram? What comes into your ether? - I mean, (laughs) I am on so many podcasts, I do so many podcasts that I don't really listen to many because maybe I'm talking too much. But I love, I have actually watched your podcast before me, no, it was good. - Which one was it? - Michael, don't put her on the spot like that. - Yeah, like, which one, tell me. - Tell me which episode, episode 13. - No, the solo that I did without him. (laughs) - Yes, exactly. - Exactly. - I'm leaving. (laughs) - But I mean, generally, I'm a crime buff, you know, so long order, but also like-- - But not like the dark crime, like, stuff? Or are you like that so too? - I don't really like the real life documentaries. I could avoid those. But like, when I was growing up, I watched Unsolved Mysteries. That's like, resurrected on Netflix now. - But that's like light, that's like, it's like-- - That's more light, yeah. - Like, that's definitely lighter. But yeah, like, I, like true detective, Mayor of Eastown, like, those are kind of my-- - Do you like memes? - I mean, I don't, I don't know if I'm like, cool enough to know the memes. - I'll send you some memes. - No, no, don't. - I'm not on TikTok. I don't really know. - I'll send you some memes, don't worry. - Okay. - Okay, I'll send you some memes. - Okay, I'll send you some memes, don't worry. - I'm a little meditative, like, I can imagine how, I can't, I keep going back to like you being alone up there. It's so calm, it would be so weird for me to not have someone asking me a hundred questions. It's probably just peaceful. - It's very peaceful. - Lord, no hate scheme, don't ever go up there with me. Don't ever go out. - No, I might get good at it. - But actually, as parents, like, at one thing that I have learned from other parents is they say, it's the perfect way to have hard conversations with your kids. - You guys sit on that chairlift? - Yes. - My dad used to do this. I really want to, my kids are six, four, one. I want to take the six in the four-year-old and go and do it, because it's a-- - I cannot. - I think it's also, it's like similar to, like, I guess, golf or tennis. You can carry skiing with you, your entire life, and I think that that-- - It's a great family sport. - Yeah. - Someone told me that when you have hard conversations with your children, you want to be doing something that's facing out like walking, so you don't have to sit eye to eye, and skiing makes so much sense, 'cause you're on the chairlift looking out, and then skiing, you're going down, so that makes total sense to me. - And they ski, and they process what you said, and then you get back on the chairlift, and generally, after that period of time, they process what you said, and they're more receptive to what you're saying on the next go-around. - I just want to put this out there that I am relying on you to teach our children to ski, and I expect them to be skiing. - Okay, it was a long list, so you're on the list now. - I want them to be, but I have to do your ski. - I'm not relying on you to do that, but I'm not relying on you to do that. - Yeah, well, you need to get on it, because they have not-- - We're gonna go, this year. - Yeah, Townsville, where are you going to go skiing? - I think for kids-- - Where are we gonna go skiing? - Okay, you tell me if this is wrong, 'cause you would know. We like going to Colorado, but I think for kids, dear Valley's good, because it's easy and safe for kids. - Yeah, easy. That's why I grew up going there, well, we grew up in San Diego, so we go to like Mammoth and then we go drive, but then like, luckily some time-- - But what about Aspen? - Asks is a hard kind of a hard mountain for kids, but I'm a buttermilk, buttermilk's good for kids. Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you don't live in New York, but I always say like, go to the dream, which is like an indoor ski dome, and it's really easy 'cause everything's in the mall, so you got like the boots and skis and all the outfits and the kids just go, you know, there's a little magic carpet and a little-- - That's what I learned on when I was a kid. - Yeah, it's like-- - In San Diego, it's just small. - They put me on the carpet thing, and just learn on the carpet. - I think Hot Chocolate, I think bribery is always helpful. Like Hot Chocolate's are-- - bribery all night. - If someone wants-- - We bribe the hell out of ourselves. - Yeah, if someone wants to teach their children to ski, what are the Lindsey tips? Give us three tips. - Never go in a snow storm. Like, it's like country club skiing. Only go when it's a nice summer day or spring day. Like, you know, February and March is a great time to take your kids because it's not too cold. If it's too cold, they're not gonna wanna do it. Like, make sure you don't, they're not out there too long. Like, Hot Chocolate's, bribery have snacks with you. Like, sugar, candy, something to like, 'cause sometimes they get really tired also 'cause they're outside and the cold. Try to make it as fun as possible, because generally, a lot of kids have like, if it's cold and they have a bad experience, they don't wanna do it again. - You know what you need to invent? - What? Boots that you step into that have the whole outfit, including the goggles, all attached. Like, you need to be able to step in those boots and just pull everything on because I'm gonna be honest, it's a lot to do. There is a lot of gear going on. - There's a lot of gear, but like, you can make it cute. - Okay. - I don't think that it's possible to make an all-in-one uniform per se. - You can't do like, like, those character costumes that they put on. - Put on? - Yeah, I just can't. - I mean, like, in most places, like, do your belly, they put your boots on for you. - Okay. - They carry your skis. - You've been there. - They carry your skis, so that they'll. - I mean, with children. - I want where they help them get into that. - Well, that's why you just get an instructor. Like, my brother was a ski instructor for a long time and he was dealing with like, eight children all the same time, but they carry the kids stuff around. They, you know, by the time they come back to you in the afternoon, they're exhausted, it's kind of a great setup. - I also think the whole thing of having to carry their own stuff and put on their boots because you're a little grit. - Of course. - It makes you a little uncomfortable. - Yeah, but if you need a little too comfortable, they're going to burn out. - Yeah, but I, you know, I could see both sides. Like, it's nice for them to be able to get in there and do it. - I mean, life's hard to handle. - That's a thing. - Like, my parents always made us responsible for our own stuff. So, for example, if you left one of your mittens at home, like, suck it up to the head. - So we're going to figure it out. - Yeah, you're like, that's what you got. If you didn't bring the right jacket, Like, you're gonna be-- cold. So you learn quickly as a kid that to be responsible for yourself, which I think a lot of sports, you don't quite have the same independence built in, you know, parents can baby their kids longer and more effectively in other sports skiing is I think a little bit, it builds a little bit more grit, which I think is a good thing. How much of your mind do you think you use in the sport? Like how, how, how much mindfulness are you, are you tapping into your head a lot? Yeah. I am a very tactical skier. I visualize a lot. I have a very specific game plan for every race. You know, I feel like tennis is a physical chess match, but, but so is skiing. You have to know exactly what moves you're going to make, where are you going to make them and similar to golf, you know, you have to know where you can miss and where you can't. I know exactly where I cannot make mistakes and where, where I can, like where I can push the limit and if I, if I doesn't go perfectly, I'll still be okay. But that's all, you know, my mental game plan. I'm, and I'm very strategic about it. I'm also very diligent about my equipment. Like I am, I've gotten an Excel spreadsheet. I've gotten, I take notes every single run. I know exactly every ski, every boot, how it felt. Well, conditions like I am a very detailed oriented person. So I'm using my brain. You are a master. I try anyways. Before we go, tell us about the antibodies for any body campaign. Yeah. I mean, like I said, antibodies are how your body protects against germs and toxins and go to anybody's for anybody.com and do the wellness assessment test. Again, gold silver bronze. I'm interested to see what you guys get. How does it work? How does the test work? It's basically just a couple of easy questions and it's kind of like based on your life choices, like your daily routines. So I don't know. I mean, I think everyone gets at least a bronze. So don't worry. You won't get a wooden spoon, which is fourth place if anyone doesn't know that. If you guys want to take the quiz, like we did, you can learn more and antibodies for anybody.com and take the wellness assessment. What if people want to go purchase your clothing, see you, your Instagram, all the things. It's all of it's on my Instagram. So there's like a link, you know, whatever, the Komi link and all my stuff's on there in my book, my ski line. Yeah, everything's on there. When is the next time we will be seeing you ski? Well, I have another surgery scheduled for November. I still have to get all the metal out of my leg and I still don't have an ACL. So probably definitely not this winter. Maybe the next winter. I know you'll be back. Everyone better watch out. Thank you. Lindsay, thank you for coming on the show. Thank you, Lindsay. Thanks for having me. [BLANK_AUDIO]