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Lil Sas Addresses the Bush Backlash | Son of a Boy Dad #420

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Lil Sas Addresses the Bush Backlash | Son of a Boy Dad #420

The podcast details a series of escalating events stemming from a last-minute flight crisis that forces Harry and Francis to work through a chaotic travel ordeal. Harry's flights are repeatedly delayed, culminating in a 7 a.m. JetBlue flight that arrives late, prompting frantic coordination with Jerry to wake Harry and ensure he makes it back in time. This logistical struggle is interwoven with deeper team conflicts, particularly around Austin’s public criticism of the team. The hosts express outrage at Austin’s actions—posting negative comments under Dave’s account—believing it violates professional boundaries and shows a lack of respect for team leadership. They argue that such behavior, especially when followed by deletion of tweets, reflects insecurity and abuse of power. The episode draws a personal parallel to a childhood experience where a perceived boss was actually a co-worker, reinforcing the idea that people should not endure disrespect from those without authority. The hosts stress that public shaming without accountability undermines trust and morale. Ultimately, they call for transparency, urging Dave to confirm his role in Austin’s posts, emphasizing that leadership must be respectful and transparent to maintain team cohesion and integrity.

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No, it's definitely the latest we've ever recorded. Do you guys like it or not? I'm excited, but if it were the regular thing, I would not like it. Oh no, I wouldn't like that. I was thinking about that when I was on the way. I was like, I can't believe part of my take does this like every episode. After a full work day. I'm like a Sunday in like the dead of winter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, no, not a good, obviously, thank God, thank God for them. Yeah. That's all I can say. Thank God. Yeah, no. My opinion on everything has just changed completely. I mean that. Chaking the hand so sincerely like we can barely record. Yeah. Yeah. They can't and they don't they don't like go anywhere like they like spend like the holidays at like PFT's house. Yeah. So they could get a fucking episode up every week right now. It just seems like it's it's just a touch and go whether or not we're going to we're going to do it. Well, the good thing is that we always do it. We got to do it. We got to do it. I'm just saying like I don't I can't plan. I was supposed to go the last three weeks. I've been a fucking nightmare. I was supposed to shoot with Trent. Yeah. Tomorrow. Yeah. And we've been trying to plan this thing. Yeah. And I'm like, dude, I don't know what is going to happen. And I can't tell you anything. Well, as of right now as far as I know, Harry is like being detained or we were recording in nine hours. Pretty much. Yeah. Exactly. Which is just devastating. I have no sympathy for you. I'm not looking for sympathy. I mean, there's nothing I can do about it. What can we just just let just walk everybody through the saga as if they were fucking I wasn't through. I mean, how about we go my point of view and then we'll go Francis's point of view. My point of view was a I'm in Vegas, obviously for Bush. You know, nightmare, total fucking nightmare. I don't know if I've ever been this low mentally as a person vibes are bad. No, vibes are good, but obviously it was just like I just asked Mac. He said that vibes are good for you only and that probably I mean, that's, but that's how it felt. Like it felt like I was just that you were the most positive guy in the room and this is how you feel. I was trying to be positive, but eventually it just you only have so much to give, you know, until you just look until you just buckle, you're like, I want a fucking die, dude. This sucks. You guys came and you guys finished your season early, we finished our season. That wasn't even like, I mean, that sucked, but that was like, it was everything after and then like the team crumbling or team crumbling, which was bound to happen. I knew that was going to happen. Did they all turn on each other? Yeah, but I think that probably happens every year if they don't win, to be honest. I saw some guy sending a tweet that had a lot of n words in it, but again, because I don't have an account, I can't every time I try to find more, like download the app. Oh, yeah. And then I'm like, no. I'm not. Yeah, that shit's pretty brutal. So I don't know what, I don't know what happened there. Well, everyone turned on each other. I mean, the team, they blew up. They're definitely not teaming together again. I'm sure like maybe two of them will, one of them like left, I don't, I'm not going to get into the details, but he just disappeared. He went into hiding like the Colombian soccer player who couldn't go home because he missed a kick. Essentially, yeah, literally exactly that. So that was tough. Like it was like tough because it was like what the fuck's going on, but like at the same time, you're like, I hope he's okay. Like, I don't know what's going on. So like that was a lot. And then today was just like it was, I mean, just hell. Well, you're skipping a big part. Well, yeah, I kind of just wanted to get the flight thing over with what's fresh. That blue is, you're still skipping a big part. You were originally scheduled to take the red eye. No, no, no, no, no. You were never scheduled to take the red eye. I was originally scheduled to get here to land at 10 30 p.m. And then I switched, I switched my flight four times, four times. When I checked in at the airport today, the guy was like, what's your flight number? And I said it and he was like, you have four flights. Jesus Christ. I mean, I'm I'm active. I'm my money. I've ran out of money. It's all gone. You had four active persons, personally, personally, mostly like first class. No, no, no, no. I saw your ticket. No, because that was the only one available. That was the only one available. You had Delta United and JetBlue first class. No, I had United, no, the only first class I had was JetBlue. I had United to get in at 10 30, not first class. I had Southwest and then I had, which was a, which I should have just done the Southwest flight. That was the big fuck up. I should have just stuck with that one. Was that the red eye? No, that one what I would have got home at five. The red eye, the red eye was just like, yeah, I should have done the red eye. Like that. You were never planning to. I thought you were always planning to do that. I was texting you guys and I was like, I was like, what if we did, would you guys be able to do like five, which like, obviously, it's not five, it's nine 30 right now. It's not five. And back, one of our producers, he took the red eye, took the red eye, I will say I also did tell Mac. I was like, do you want to change your flight, too? And he was like, I have to do other stuff like he had to do whooping and hollering stuff. So I was like, no, we're good. I have boy dead tomorrow. We record son of a boy dead on Mondays. I need to get back the way that I saw the way that I saw it in my head was, well, first of all, I had to change the flight regardless what it was, when he said other stuff, that's what it was. No, it was hooping. It was hooping and hollering was what it was giving me hooping and hollering and other stuff. You know that boy dead always follows. It always follows hooping and hollering, but that was the plan. That was the plan. You wouldn't have made it back in time. I like, you guys have no idea. Like I, I was on, I was on getting in at 1030 and then I switched it to another United Flight and then I found out that that United Flight, because that one was getting in at five at Newark. And then I found out that that one was going to San Francisco first, two hour flight and then a six hour flight. So I was like, all right, let's try to find an alternative to that. Then I find the Southwest flight and I'm like, okay, this is definitely better. It's three hours to Oklahoma and then Oklahoma to here, but it's middle seat all the way. Whatever. I don't care. And then I'm like, okay, I'm going Southwest. That's the plan. Landing in La Guardia at five p.m. And then I'm still just refreshing the app all night. I'm on like price line, Expedia, kayak, all of them. I'm refreshing all of them and I, because I know something's going to open up. It's we're in Las Vegas. Not everyone is making their 7 a.m. flight. Of course. Something opens up 7 a.m. Get's into JFK at three p.m. I didn't even tell you guys. I was like, they're going to be, I'm going to text them in the morning. I'm back. It's three. Like, we can just get this over with. And then, and then like right before I go to bed, I'm checking in and it's delayed. It's automatically delayed three hours. So you got that flight, you switched to it. and all your others, you canceled? - Yeah. - Yeah, I see. - I canceled all of it. I would book and then I would, 'cause I had the 24 yet. - Yeah, you can cancel it. So you ended up, your final answer was 7 a.m. flight. - 7 a.m. direct, I mean, it was too good to be true. 7 a.m. direct first class, getting in at 3 p.m. That was what I was looking. It was literally the number one thing I was looking for all day. - That was your JetBlue flight? - Yes. - Yeah, so I don't remember when you texted us exactly, when did you tell us, you told us at 3 a.m. - 6 a.m. your guys time, 3 a.m. my time. - Oh, that's what it was. - And then you called Gerry at 4 a.m. - Yeah, right. - I woke up at 4 a.m. - I went to bed at 3, woke up at 4 a.m. - I woke up at 4. Because here's what happened, right? So Harry, Harry like tells us that he's-- - Well, by the way, I don't want to tell it like, obviously it sucks, like I don't want to text you guys and be like, hey guys, delayed again, another four hours. - Dude, honestly, don't worry. I know you don't worry. I'm not actually mad. - No, I know. I just, I'm just saying. - Because it's funny and you've been through hell. So I'm not gonna pile on. But I want for the sake, I want us to understand what happened because I think it's very funny. - There was also an unbelievable text message exchange. - Was this at 7 a.m.? - This is at 7 a.m. - I thought you were gonna take the, I thought the plan was that you were always gonna take the red eye because you were like debating it last night. You were like, I'm thinking I might switch my flight to the morning or something. - I was on the red eye. - So there you go. That was the original plan. - Well, it was, I mean, it was the second, it was the third plan. - Oh, and I was the third flight booked. - You, okay. All right. So it's at 7 a.m. text message. Francis says, he gets the bad news from you at 5 a.m. 5 30. Francis says, shit, keep us posted. I'll start thinking about a guest. Hey, we can get in case you can't get home. 7-0-1, 7-21. Harry, I'm trying to help you figure this problem out. Wake the fuck up. (laughing) When Harry, like, this is what happens. Harry's like, wow, there's no solution. It is, we'll go back to bed. - It was 4 a.m. I'd been refreshing the apps. They're four hours. - Yeah, my hands are tied. I'm at the mercy of the airlines. - I have it. - I have it, the wind. - What is this thing that? - I just mail it in. - No, I'm gonna go get the floor. - The thing that bothered me in the morning was that I genuinely did have alarm set every hour to, like, refresh and see if anything opened up. And then I get a preamp, like I get, I get a pre alarm. - Yes. - And in real, in person alarm. - Flow down. - Here's what happened. It's 6.30 a.m. I'm up because I'm a healthy human. - That's wild. So, texted you guys as I had a feeling you guys would be upset. - Yeah. And I get all these messages from Harry and he's, like, bad news. My flight's been delayed four hours, which means I'm not gonna get to JFK until, like, 7.30 p.m. - Yeah. - Which means we're now not gonna record till 9. And I know that if everything goes perfect. - Yeah, exactly. If there are further delays, we're cooked. - Yeah. - There's no Harry for this episode. And as I'm sure we'll get to later, it was imperative that Harry be on this episode. Imperative. So, I'm now, I go into, I am a problem solver. That is my first, my first reaction is I wanna solve the problem. I'll get, we'll learn the lessons later. So immediately I start looking at flights. And I'm seeing, you know, all these, like, 7.00 a.m. flights. - Yeah, yeah. - And some have connections. Most of them you had to look in first class. That was the only ones that was like three, two to three K. - Yeah, they were 2,000 bucks for sure. - Yeah. - But I was like, I was, I said I was like, I might have flight credit that I couldn't help. - Well, that's what I did. - Yeah, I was willing to subsidize getting you home. - Love that. - I'm a team player. - Team player, team player. - Never doubted it. - Even though our fucking home run hitter has, is Dennis Rodman in Vegas. - He's married to Madonna. - Is he gonna make it back for game six of the NBA finals? - He's wearing a wedding dress for some reason. - He's gone to Vegas? - Oh, he died his hair and he's yelling at Austin. - He's not gonna come to practice today and we're playing Carl Malone tomorrow. NBA's second all-time leading score at that point. I believe behind Moses Malone. - Wow. - Is that right? - No, cream. It was cream, but Moses Malone wasn't in that. Anyway, point is, all right. So now I'm looking at these flights and I'm like going through these options and now you're not responding. Which means I know you've gone to sleep. - Yeah, yeah. - And I'm finding things and I'm like, we need to get Harry on a 7 a.m. flight, which means he needs to go to the airport. - Now, kind of now. - Yeah, right now. - So I called Jerry. - Yeah. - And it is four in the morning. - Oh, you hear his drum and bass in a girl being like, the ATMs right over here, baby. (laughing) - Papi. - Jerry awake when you called him. - Bro, not only was he awake, he sounded like he was up. - He was up. - He was alert. He could've flown the plane home for you at that time. He was like, he answers. He goes, hi, Francis. I was like, Jerry, I'm sorry to call so late. He goes, that's okay. I was just about to go to bed. That's where it got. That's what he said. - I believe it. - He was like, but what's going on? And I'm like, listen, man. - He's not gotten these calls before. - Oh, definitely. - I go, are you with Harry? Like is Harry asleep? And he's like, yeah, I think he's gone to sleep. And I'm like, we need to get him home to record boy, dad. These flights situations a problem. Can you go knock on his door to present these options that I've found for him? - Yeah. - And he's like, oh, man, you want me to go wake him up? - Yeah, I didn't sound like. - And I was like, I don't know what else to do, but this is what has to happen. And he was like, okay. And he went down and knocked on the door. - Oh, man. - You didn't open the door. - I was half. - You were half. - I have been the most angry I've ever been. - Fucking of fraud. - I'm hearing Francis' voice through the door. While I'm like, I've been asleep for like 45 minutes. - I hear Francis being like, tell him he has to come home. (laughing) - By the way, this isn't the first time this has happened. - I just say, you literally since version of what happened when we did the same thing. - No, you literally said that you were going to have to do that. - You did. - You're like, I'm going to have to go across the country and like, after you're going to drag, or now you're going to have to go to Queens to Queens. - Go to Queens, yeah. - And that's literally what you had a fucking proxy go and drag him out of his room. - You know what I feel like? I feel like John Goodman and that like FBI and Don Cheetle at the end of flight. When they, when they walk in and they see that Denzel Washington has gotten into the minibar and is like covered in blood and is all fucked up and he's got to testify about the plane thing in like a couple of hours. So as a group, they all come together and they get a bunch of cocaine and they fucking zap him back to life and bring him around. Like that's how I feel getting you to the podcast on Monday. - I mean, give him a shot, give him some adrenaline right to the neck. - The one thing, so like I was annoyed because I was already on the 7am flight, that was delayed. But then you got in my head bad because then you texted - And I succeeded because that's what I wanted to do. - You were like, you were like, you know, a lot of those flights will go early. - Yeah. - And then I was just in bed like fine. - I needed you, I needed you to go to the airport. - Which I did. - Which to try. - I went so early, bro. It was like, it was like what's, I got there, I think I got there five hours before we left. - Listen, you did it. I'm proud of you. - But you were right. Like the possibility of the plane leaving without me. I would have just blocked you guys on everything and disappeared. - You would have never seen me again. - You would have been you, the dude from pushing the Colombian guy just living in the Vegas underground. - Yeah. - Just living as one of the mold people under the strip. - Yeah. Yeah. So you made it, did you manage to sleep on the plane? - Yeah, so I mean, did you have a first class C? - JetBlue, men. - Oh, Jesus Christ, what are you fucking minding about? - Oh my God. - Don't they like serve really nice, I smoked trout for breakfast. (laughing) - But I mean, it cost me an arm and a leg. - Where did they cost me everything? - Where are they getting the trout from? - I don't know, I was wondering that as well. - But it was, I mean, it was fresh. - Really? - It's like they just flayed it. - There was a time when you flew on JetBlue on men across the country, Charlie Bird. - Do you remember that restaurant? You know that restaurant? - Yeah. - It's a good restaurant. Their chef, they were doing the menus for the JetBlue - Unbelievable. - You guys would love it. - 40,000 feet. - The menu is not like Delta where you just pick one meal and it comes with everything. They have four options and you get to pick three of them. - What? - I was in a bad mood, so I only picked one. (laughing) So I'll just go with the smoke trout. bring it bring it and then get rid of it. Well, there's three options. Like pistachio pancakes, what's up with? Let's just go with normal food. Why not like like, okay, smoked trout, I guess is good. Why not just smoked salmon? Everyone eats smoked salmon. It's like a universal breakfast. Harry, you're telling me that the fisherman and you doesn't am out. Of course, I wanted to have it. Trout is great. Yes, it was and it was good. And they had a little horse radish on it too. Oh my God. It was like a little, let's feel like I was eating some shrimp cocktail. Good guy. Yeah, trouts like small batch. You know what I mean? Like a salmon, that's, that's feeding like three planes. To see how that is true. That is true. So they got the almond pancakes. So they just have a salmon just sitting in the fucking refrigerator. Like one of those hams that you had just coming off each and a beer and a beer and salmon. Samona beer. So you get home and now you're here and we've just been kind of waiting all day. Yeah. It's amazing how much I've done today. No, I believe what have you done? It's amazing how little I've done today. Dude, I mean, yeah, yeah, you, but you came here and now you're here and we're ready to talk to you. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm glad to be back. I'm very, very glad to be back. I think everyone, I remember walking by Mac yesterday and just going, I can't fucking way to go home. Well, I think it just, I think it just goes to show that you probably shouldn't do. Tell you right. But I mean, easy, easy, that's what people want. Whatever people want that. See, like the more people want us to not do it, the more I'm going to focus everything I have to do it. It seems that way. But at some point, you have to realize you're just lighting money on fire. Now it's coming out of your pocket, too. Well, that, I've done that a hundred. I've do that every time. Do you do a Mac of the same shoes on right now? Oh, yeah. Where I said we were like, what's like, we're in the cult that cult with the Nike's. Those are new, too. Brand new. These are JJ, JJ hooked us up. Jersey, Jerry brought team shoes for everyone. Like, I mean, what like 15 pairs, something like that. Yeah, I guess he like knows that he knows a guy. He knows the guy at foot locker somehow. They're pretty nice for guys of team shoes. Yeah, was that as like a morale boost after you lost? No, that was going in. Oh, you wanted to dress and stuff. Yeah, we wanted to like look like a team, you know, and then it was funny because the last day, like none of us had any of our bush stuff on, but we were all still wearing the shoes. Did you wear your bush stuff during the rest of the time? After, after we lost it, I'd been ripped that thing off, get it away from me. I mean, you're, it's the, look, the players are not it. No, no, the players are great. Well, first of all, no, they're not, well, two of them are great. I know enough to know that your team sucks. No, that's to create your cross in the line. You don't know. You don't know enough to make it read a bunch of tech. I'm sure you did read a bunch and you just told us the whole thing turned on each other. You guys can't win shit. Well, we won major four. We made one major three and yet you shouldn't you be kind of moving up. It's tough because this year, like, I mean, yes, we should have, we should have won the tournament. Like, there's no beating around that. We were the, our roster alone is the best roster in challengers. Right. The fact that we lost is like, it was like we had to try to lose. And we were losing to teams that are like so much worse than us. Right. So, I mean, we, I knew, like, you know, after the first day, you're like, this isn't the team. Like, this clearly is not the team that is going to win. So why don't you do the, the, the flight thing where you find a mini bar and you fucking put cocaine and everybody's noses and fucking change, shake something up. I mean, I, I, I think we pretty much did like the, there's only so much we can do, you know? Yeah. Like, at the end of the day, like, these guys have been doing this for like a decade. Like, we're not going to be the ones that are going to like make someone who's historically not tried, tried. Dude, it feels to me as if these guys are taking advantage of you. We've all of you. It feels to me, it's weird because laughing behind your backs. No, they definitely aren't. I mean, they know how much this is more important for them than it is for us. Like it, they, they, they, they, they, they're not taking, they're not, they're not seizing their opportunity. Well, that's the thing that sucks. Funding and, and recognition and a platform, mansions in Las Vegas, flights to the fucking tournaments. And they're just coming and smoking their pots and fallen on their faces and being like, get those in fucking matter. No, I know what you're saying. And I do, like, you are right to an extent, but I do think it sucks the most because I think two of the guys on our team, specifically, like really, like, gave it everything they had even going into the tournament. Like, uh, Byron, like, pro loot, the one, like the, the one we call the face. Like he's, like his worth work ethic is like not, like he is, he tries harder than anyone I've ever seen. At almost anything, like he wants to make it so fucking bad. And it sucks because it's like, bro, like how many times are you going to watch your friends, like, cost you, like, like ruin your chances for you? Like it is those other two guys don't care. They don't care. They don't give a fuck. So you need to get rid of them. Oh, they're gone. They're gone. And you know what? I think we need to go farther than that. I think we need to embarrass them. Well, they're, they, we, that's already been done. No, it hasn't. It has this world. It doesn't necessarily know who those guys are. Yeah, but like those guys should be working at Popeyes, though that's the, that's the joke. That's the running joke is they say fries. It's fries. But we need to have, we need to actually get them. We need to do something. We need to call in, it's a weird situation because like one of them limit their professional opportunities. Yeah. I mean, I think that's how I think that is going to happen. They need punishment. They need to be, they don't need to be consequences. One of the players, I would be surprised if he competes ever again, genuinely. And what's his name? I'm not going to, I don't, I don't want to go into the, I don't want to like, this podcast is too big to be ridiculing those guys that have nothing to do with it. I don't think it would be that hard to get whatever they're going to pee. That's the, that's the guy who I mean, though, like they're all going to know. Everyone's going to know. And then the other guy is going to the pro league. So maybe if you called as Popeyes to this person and just be like, we have a good opportunity. We need a cashier. But well, cashier is actually you have to like work your way up to cashier. Yeah. I mean, just someone dunking them. Yeah, definitely. You're starting out as the fucking deep fire guy. Yeah. Or is deep fire worse than I feel like deep fire is kind of important too. I feel like the clean up person lowest, then deep fire. Yeah. Someone who ever was working the bathroom. Yeah. Had Popeyes. That is a bad bathroom. That's a bad bathroom. Maybe the worst, to be honest. Mm-hmm. Check, checkers has to have a nasty bad any bad any, any restaurant that serves curly fries has a bad bathroom, really bad, a nasty bad on the ceilings. Yeah. There's nothing good going on there. All right. So whatever, I mean, no, you're right. Like you, you definitely are right. By the way, the only reason I care this much at this point is because it's genuinely affecting my life now. Yeah. I mean, I never would have thought. Yeah, the nab iron and fucking face. That's honestly, that's how I started watching bravo shows. It was just like, started to fucking affect my life in ways that I couldn't like help. So I'm like, now I'm like fucking Dorinda's at it again. That's fucking a bitch. I, at first, I was like, this is terrible, like, this is ruining your, this is rotting your brain. And then I'm like, now I'm on the edge of my seat. And I guarantee you by like season three of the bush, you're going to be like wearing the new balances with these guys at a major. I mean, I've caught, like mostly jokingly. About wanting to show up to try to motivate these people. I mean, honestly, if I had been there and like seen that, I don't know what I would have done to those two guys. It would have been bad. I would have done something bad. I was, I was, but like you guys, I know you guys, like maybe Jerry, did Jerry do anything? Bro, Jerry, dude, like killed them. Good. All right. Yeah. I can try to. But that's also where the whole Dave thing stemmed from, which was kind of taken out of context. Like the, when Jerry, I don't know if you saw the clip of Jerry being like, we didn't, like, no, the practice is awful. No practice. Like just pretty much just like calling them out after we lost about being like you guys, you guys placed how you deserved to place. Um, okay. So he said that to them. Jerry, I mean, he, he went off. I mean, I kind of blacked out to be honest. I'm happy to hear this. Associated. Yeah. You felt uncomfortable. Yeah, I went to the bathroom. I went to the bathroom and I just sat in the store. You sat down? Yeah, I was just so mad and I was so mad and I was so like, it was like such like a weird mix of like just like deeply depressed and just like little kid anger at the same time, you know what I mean? Not like hopeless, not like I'm mad, like, like literally feeling like I'm going to burst through my skin. You want to like throw a ketchup pack? Yeah, literally. Yeah. Well, when I was at the airport waiting for baggage claim, I was just like punching the brick wall with my hand, just like trying to release some form of energy. Now, I was looking on the, I didn't mean to see this. I was on the parents of multiples Reddit and somehow, like, somehow the tea bush Reddit comes up and people are saying fucking crazy shit. And I want you to refute it. They were saying that Mook is tough enough on crime. That can't be true. Bro, that move is not tough on crime. I feel like I've said this so many times and like this kind of has to go with the Austin thing as well. It's crime, the name of one of them. Basically, they said that MOOC isn't like tough enough on the players. I was like, that's not the MOOC I know. That can't be true. Tell me that's not true at all. If anything, like I'm the one that's not tough on the players, you're not tough on crime. I'm not tough on crime. Okay. I don't really think that's my role though. I don't think my role is to be tough on crime. Maybe it is. Maybe I'm wrong. Francis, you might be right. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I need to be tough on crime. Francis, I don't know how we're talking about this. I mean, all say though is like like MOOC. What world are we living from? MOOC is like just nonsense. MOOC literally does everything. Like the amount of like disrespect that MOOC gets from within the office and the company and like everyone just assumes that he's not doing anything. Like this would not, this would have died eight months ago without MOOC. Listen, I don't think and correct me if I'm wrong. No, you're wrong. I'm correcting you already. Do people think that he doesn't do anything or do they think that he is doing misplaced effort? No, they think he's doing nothing. And that when when he was editing Anus, that's how everything began. Then now pouring it all into this. Yeah, I mean, that's like that was the argument in the beginning and the argument and the argument became that he doesn't do anything for Bush, but like he's literally but like I believe, yeah, I believe that like he does need to make the posters MOOC tough on crime. I think that that would like be a propaganda campaign. Like I like type it to where you just wear it on a button. It doesn't make much sense. The way that like who's it? Who is this? I don't even I didn't know that that was the consensus either about MOOC honestly. I never heard that. Well, I mean, that's that's what's been said. It sounds like it's what what I said. No, no, it is. That's what the that's what Austin thought at least. Okay, guys, let's talk about better help. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. We talk about mental health more openly now, but asking for help can still feel hard and BetterHelp's latest research confirms it. BetterHelp's 2026 state of stigma report surveyed 2000 Americans and revealed that 85% of Americans believe getting support is wise yet 74% say society discourages people from doing so. 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No, the Austin stuff was like, Austin was a big part of the bush when we first started. Like he was pretty much, when we started the brand, the brand requires us to get a budget approved. Dave doesn't want to deal with Jerry. So Dave said, Austin, like you just you oversee, like you can fill me in and all okay the budget is essentially what happened. And then we won major three and then vibes were immaculate, like with everybody. Like Austin watched the whole major three was like we were all like hugging and shit when you hugged Austin. Yeah, probably. Like it was like a great moment for the bush and for like everything that we had done. And and then like, that's like when Jesus wrote into Galilee and everybody wrote, had the palm leaves out and everything. But then everybody remembers that seven days later, Christ was crucified. Exactly. Yes, exactly. And that's kind of how it felt. It felt like it felt like we were crucified. Now it was saying that Austin is right now. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really want to like rip into Austin. I'll say is like he's a fucking asshole. I think he knows that the way that he like talked to us was fucking insane. And I said it on the podcast, bro, like and that was what started everything. That was what caused everything. I don't, I genuinely don't think Austin will care that I say he's an asshole. Like he knows I think he doesn't like me. He's trying to be an asshole. Yes, he's trying to an asshole on purpose because like he thinks that's what authoritative. Yes, which is fine. But like, bro, like at a certain point, like you got to realize, like I'm not, I've been at the company for set over seven years. Like I'm not just gonna, I've been here longer than Austin. I understand that Austin is close with Dave. I'm not afraid of Dave. Like I have a good relationship. Like I know Dave, like shits on me online and stuff. The last conversation I had with Dave about my contract negotiation went phenomenal. Like he does not like I'm not if Austin, if the only thing that Austin has over us is that he's the barrier between us and Dave. I'd rather just talk to Dave. Like at that point, I don't, I don't need to be like just getting ripped apart. Like the, the, the meeting that we had that we didn't put out with Austin, which then everyone started calling the Austin files. We didn't put it out because we didn't want that to be the content anymore. Like it, the content, bro, like it's our own brand. It's our brand. It's not Austin's brand. Like he can't tell us who, what content we have to put out. Wait, quick question. When you brought him in, was he a true part of the team? Or was he sort of just the liaison at that point? He wasn't even like, it was like when we needed the budget to be approved, we would have a meeting with Austin and we would break down the budget completely. And then he would, he would think about it, talk to Dave about it, and then he would get back to us. And he like, uh, overseed the budget was like a fine-toothed comb and take stuff out and be like, why do we need this? Or would it be a blanket? I approve this or I don't approve this. It would be like a blanket. I approve this. I don't approve this. Right. And like don't get me wrong. Like I'm not saying that none of this is deserved. Like Austin obviously got insanely frustrated with us. Like we weren't like, bro, like we're not the smartest three guys in the world. Like we're gonna, there's gonna be mistakes. We've never ran a team before. We've never done to any of these events before. Like shit's gonna get fucked up. Oh, is he mad about money going over budget? Like budget stuff. Like I think Jerry booked a nicky numbers flight through the budget, which was like a big no-no. But that's like a Ben Minstile fuck up where it's like it's better that it happens. Yeah. As opposed to nothing happened. Yeah, exactly. And then we kind of got to a point after that meeting where it was like, we're just done. Like it's like this clearly isn't gonna work anymore. Like he doesn't want to work with us. I don't want to work with him. Had the budget for the Vegas trip been approved yet at that point? So that was where like he got mad was we needed the budget for Vegas to get approved. We I didn't want it to be on camera the conversation. I was like, I don't feel like I was like, bro, like this is supposed to be about video games. It's supposed to be about the team, the players, me. I don't buy that because I said that. I said that a trillion times. Yes, but you guys created the behind the bush thing. It's a hard. You guys stage that Moresh, but behind the bush, you're supposed to be about the inner workings of the team. Fine, but like it isn't that sort of like your hard knocks type of thing of bush. Yeah, but and in hard knocks, they do your cut from the team, your contract, this signed your contract. Like they do all of that. But it's not interesting when it's coming from when it's not had nothing to do with the players or the team had to do with us and our standing at barstool. Yes, because that's not what the show. That's not the only thing that the barstool audience cares about is you guys. They don't care about Byron. But that doesn't matter. Then it's not if you don't care about Byron, then the brand's not for you. Like that's that's the point that I'm trying to make. I don't that that falls flat for me as an argument respectively. That's fine. I did. That's fine. It doesn't matter. I'm saying I'm telling you. I don't want. I said this on the last podcast on son of a boy dead. If your podcast is strictly, which he was becoming strictly about the inner workings of barstool, we're going to alienate the entire cod fan base that had come over and supported that's fair. I agree with that, which I just didn't like, I'm not saying we're never going to talk about the inner workings ever again. I'm just saying like not every single episode has to be about why me muc and Jerry are all retarded and suck at our jobs and like Austin screaming at us. And then it got into a weird thing where like he's trying to tell us like that we need to be listening to like what the comments are saying for content. And I was like bro, like you don't do content. Like you don't know what you're talking about. Like and that was that was the end. Like that. That was the end of, we didn't speak again since then. And then it was obvious, like, I'm not, no one's retarded, like, we knew if we lost. He was going to post something and dance on the grave, like, hold on, I have one more question. You've moved quickly because I forgive me, I don't, all good. So you, you, you didn't want him, you didn't want the conversation with about the budget for the Vegas trip to be part of content. The behind the bush, not behind the bush, the owners meetings had become, like, strictly about just talking about the budget. All the comments were saying, I don't want to hear about the budget anymore, stop talking about the budget because the thing is, bro, like, we've been approved every time we've tried to go. Yeah. And that's what it was frustrating me too, was like, why are we having these nine hour conversations every day? We're like, you know, Mook and Jerry are convinced they're going to get fired, they're like Baghdad bomb, like, like, uh, we don't know what's going to, it's like, bro, it's happened every time we've tried to go. It's been approved. Yeah. And like, I'm not, that's not the kind of content that I do. It's not the kind of, kind of, kind of content that I enjoy or like, I'm not going to put myself in a situation where I'm just going to be getting screamed at for no reason. Like, I have self respect, like, I know, I know what I am capable of. I know what we've built with this show and I'm positive that we can do the same thing with bush. Like, I'm not, I have no doubt about that. It is like, you do, you can fall into becoming that style of content where it's like, you only exist if there's like a Dave or big cat yelling. Yes, exactly. And it's like, that is something that, like, it seems like you're very consciously trying to avoid. And it can get some people jobs for life, but it also seems like I just feel like, and I'm not, and I'm not trying to like knock anyone at the company that does that stuff, but like, and again, I'm, I do agree, like a little bit of it is interesting. People do want to hear about it, but it can't be the full brand is just like us getting shit on. And then we go to the do the streams and then people are like, like, we, we come in sixth and then all the comments are like, uh, Austin's shutting you boys down. It's like, bro, it's not about what we place. It's about the content. Like, this is, like, place your well is better for content. But like, dude, the behind the bush that, like, Mac and quags are working on is going to be like a masterpiece. It's going to be like three hours long. Yeah. Which is, that was literally the whole goal of the season was the documentaries, but I think that, uh, you know, as someone who doesn't, uh, follow video games, like, yeah, I'm not, I, if I'm watching that, I'm not really watching it for the gameplay necessarily. Obviously I'm rooting for you guys to win. Yeah. Like for me, the car accident on the England trip, of course, those types of things, that's what draws me in and makes me think that's what it should be. It should be like, but you don't like that because it makes you guys look stupid. No, no, it's not that. I'm fine looking stupid. I look stupid on this show every week. I'm fine with that. I don't want someone who's not in charge of me and has no authority over me to treat me like he's the CEO of the company. Okay. So that's very specific to Austin. I'm sort of just getting a, okay, I'm sorry. So I just, I don't think that you like to have a relationship and I wouldn't either with where like someone can yell at me and I can't yell back and they're not paying my bills. Exactly. Like it got to a point where I like the, like the, like a, and I don't even really want to talk about it much more after this, but like the, the tweet that he posted, the GGs that tell you ride bush with the screen, you gotta explain this. You gotta explain this. This, so the crux of everything. This is why we're here today. We get bounced. We go back to the Airbnb where we're talking to Byron, just like breaking down like future plans, like what the fuck just happened going over everything. And then we get a comment on Instagram in the hidden comments from Dave saying that he's not funding the bush anymore. Well, what exactly did Dave's comment say it was like, uh, didn't practice enough, didn't practice enough, comma, comma, dot, dot, you know, like very like Dave, like if you were going to write as Dave, you would write that take a lot of, like, mis spaces, it's like a lot of like, that was delicious. Ron, that was delicious. I don't even care about that. I don't even care about what I've done. What a great job. Yeah. That's fabulous. But I don't even care about who if Dave wrote, if Dave wrote the tweet or if Dave wrote the comment or if Austin wrote the comment, it doesn't matter. Because Dave said pretty much the same thing on, well, but this morning anyway, where he said like the, like they didn't practice whatever. So no, no, wait. That matters. That matters immensely. I think so too. Why? If I'll preface this by saying, and I know this is going to sound cowardly, I don't have a problem with Austin, Austin helped on the book a lot without him. I would have been fucked, but if Austin is posting comments that are his opinions under Dave's screen name, that to me is really out of bounds. I don't know. I don't know. There's no way. I don't know. There's no way. Well, we need to ask Dave. It's awesome. My, my only. He would be honest about that. No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. My only reasoning about that I thought it was Austin is that it was a comment that was hidden on Instagram, but didn't he get his account is shadow band on Instagram? Like that's like a known thing, like Dave's shadow band on Instagram, his, you know, if you search his name, you got to type in the full username for his profile to come up. So his comments are automatically hidden. Okay. So why, why do you think that? Why does that mean it's Austin? Bro, it was opposed with five comments who the fuck is looking at the hidden comments on a random Instagram reel. Why would Austin be looking at the hidden comments on a random Instagram reel? Anyway, I am fucking confused. You're saying the only reason Austin could have found it because he knows it was there because he had posted it. Oh, that or or he or Dave posted it and was like Austin, I just posted this. That those are the only options that they were lying and that they were standing next to each other. That they were standing next to each other or Austin wrote it because there's no fucking way that Austin's just sitting around reading the comments of random Bush Instagram reels, everyone we posted, we posted like 10 reals, how would Dave know about who practiced enough? Do you think Dave was watching? No. Look, I'm positive. Dave was not watching. In fair, we to be fair here, we would need to find out whether or not Dave had written that comment. I don't, that's what I'm saying though. I don't give a fuck about the comment. That matters. That's all everything. No, it's not. No, it's not. It doesn't matter because Austin, quote, tweeted the comment. But my reasoning about the Dave thing, it doesn't matter because Dave said the same thing on what? So it's like, it does matter because you're talking about it. I don't think it's a secret that Austin posts stuff for Dave. That's highly different than posting without Dave's knowledge. But there's like a scenario. I don't know. I'm not trying to, I don't know. It's a crazy accusation. So I'm not trying to make it seem like, well, that's what I'm wondering. Yeah. I'm not trying to make it seem like it's a hundred percent fact. Obviously I'm a little suspicious about it. But to me, the thing that's the most suspicious is that you then replied with, well, so he screen shoted it and tweeted it, essentially like joke, or not joking, essentially saying like here's coming, here's this coming from Dave, you guys are getting shut down. It's done. Good night. He said GG. Well, why would he, why explain, which means good game. I learned. Thank you. How did we get all of this is so new? What are 24 hours? It's better. Yeah. You're learning a lot. Yeah. But why would he take Glee and you guys losing? Because you guys said that you didn't want him in the budget meetings anymore or you don't want to film it? Because I feel like there's a gap there. If him taking Glee and you guys losing, because he's in an asshole, I think that's very clear. I think I've made that very clear. I don't have any personal problems against Austin. He's a fucking asshole. There's no beating around that. I'm pretty sure he would admit that at this point himself. But I just don't like, I thought that he was like on the team or like for a lot of the season, you guys hugged a week ago, you were in Galilee. Austin did for the bush was okay, the budget, and then make the players contracts worse for the players that we have to argue about it with them 24 hours a day. Okay, so you see this tweet from Austin and then you replied, yeah, and I replied and I said, I said, back to full-time assistant, your time is freed up. You no longer have to partake in the bush. You can go back to your duties of booking calendars and whatever the fuck else he does. But like, and then, and then that's a clean shot by the way. That's a clean shot. That's fair. He's been shitting us non-stop for six months. It's not even like, you guys don't even understand, you guys don't even know. Like the, bro, the comment, he goes in the discord and writes essays trying to turn the fans against us. Under his own name. Under his own name. Okay. So someone's got to let people know like, yo, this guy's not in charge of me. Like I'm not going to be, I'm not going to have all of my fans of the thing that I built thinking that I am getting shit on by someone who has no authority over me. Right. Well, I was literally talking, I was telling everyone in the house. I was like, this reminds me of when I was a child and I, my dad had a friend named Tony. And I always used to say Tony is his boss and he would get so fucking mad and he would be like Tony's not my boss and like now I get it where it's like bro like I'm not like I have but like bro it's like you have a boss at work you're I'm already getting shit from my actual bossy why would I why would I willingly be taking shit from someone who's not my boss cuz I was a kid I'm the child because they worked together they were co-workers so I always just would like assume like that was his boss but it wasn't it wasn't his boss and then he told me and I never said it again like at a certain point and then and then and then he goes and then he deletes the tweet which deleting the tweet this is where I got actually mad that's huge part of this okay so you tweeted that I was like I was probably like six years old but I remember very vividly him getting mad and being like he's not my boss and you were like Tony's in a discord okay did Tony approve your your budget dad like it makes sense like bro like you're getting like everyone gets shit from their bosses like I'm not saying like I said me and Dave are are have a good relationship Dave gets furious with me constantly I get I get emails from Dave with the fucking sponsors and shit with the fuck's wrong with you what do you do and he's right like I fuck up so it's like I and I get like I have conversations with big cat I've had I've got had conversation bad conversations with gas like you already at this company there's a lot of people that are in charge so why would I just let someone else slip into that equation that has no authority okay and I'm not saying I know Austin has people that he's in charge of I'm just not one of them yeah so I think that's fair so this is where things get really really complicated for me which is that you tweeted that back and then Austin deleted his tweet yeah to me that is this is what I was raging about morning I shouldn't have done that and now this is becoming bigger than I wanted it to be and I'm trying to put out a fire that I started yeah I mean that's which if that's true I got a flame throwing the fire is exactly igniting it and that is where I started that's that's where I think maybe he did write the tweet as Dave yeah I don't know the comment comment yeah and that is the only thing I see as being like whoa I think that is an abuse of power if it happens yeah without Dave's knowledge and that's a big if we don't know and I like to know I would be I'd honestly I would be surprised if it happened without Dave's knowledge oh really at this point just based off of what he set off of love then okay then we need to absolve him if that's your stance then no but my thing that I was more so mad about also Dave commenting on the Instagram is great for us like that's another thing like Dave being Dave talking about bush is good like he doesn't talk about things that he doesn't want to talk about you know what I mean yeah he's not talking about brands that he doesn't even know about so it's like it is there change that Austin backfill Dave on the information after the fact said that yeah bush lost they didn't practice and oh definitely and then Dave said that on 100% like that is also a similar line of I mean it's the same exact thing he's covering his trails better in that scenario I feel like we really need to ask Dave I'm not gonna do that this will make his way across his desk okay I'll hit a Boston ask if he can ask runner by Jerry mook though what's Jerry mooks opinion on Austin I don't know so that tweet gets deleted and like Jerry's I mean Jerry was probably on the phone with him 10 minutes after I press send why he's playing all sides Jerry yeah yeah what Jerry doesn't have a single enemy really he gets people that like yeah I mean I'm fucking around obviously but yeah no Jerry's definitely playing all sides what about Connor mook yeah I have no idea you just did the Sean Gardini joke without even realizing it yeah what about Connor mook yeah who else would we got Connor I think I called mook Connor ever but no my biggest refuse to believe that you guys have never talked about it never um these are all my own opinions like you guys don't exclusive I bet Matt could tell us honestly off air I mean that's the thing too so there's going to be a lot of this and behind the bush it's going to be a masterpiece um but no my big thing that the thing that actually bothered me like the Austin thing was whatever like he I think that was very fair by me like he's shit on us he's shut on us publicly he's tweeted about he's gone on podcasts and he's shut on us so I think like I'm allowed to shit on him publicly once I feel like I gave him like the benefit of the doubt a lot of times that final tweet dancing on the grave I'm not just gonna not reply like I meet my immediate thought when I saw that was like I got a reply to this so whatever Dave needs a coffee yeah yeah like I was running through a couple different bangers um that tweet would have done a hundred K if he didn't deleted um and that lost you yours too because when when someone deletes a tweet that you quote tweeted then it just goes to a link that's dead um but it still came up on some accounts like that if you've already seen it yeah if you've already scrolled by it it will stay there forever for you yeah um the thing that really bothered me honestly was I feel like if anyone else at the company tweeted a dig at someone and then the person replied and they deleted it I feel like it would be the story of the century at the company like it if you're like is that not like something that Dave would get like furious about not furious but I think he would I think he would look down on it because it's not you're not standing on your business like you take a shot at us and the brand it's the 20th time he's does that he's done that and then I say one and bro I mean it's the exact the the all of the downward stuff with Austin started after I said he wasn't my boss so it's like clearly he's it's a thing for him he's insecure about it so it's like it if you're gonna keep on taking shots don't be a fucking pussy and delete your tweet like how fucking lame is that like I wanted to text him and be like are you fucking like are you joking like you can't take one bad tweet he's sending five paragraph essays in the discord talking about how I'm a fucking retard but one tweet that's also the thing is like bro like I have a like I'm not trying to gas myself up I have a big following like do you think I'm not just gonna ever respond like I'm just gonna just get walked over forever like I'm obviously gonna say something at some point. I don't know I don't understand it. I don't understand it. I love it. I love it. No, I have that attitude. Honestly, me too. I live in fear. I live in fear. I'm one of these people that everyone lives in fear, but at a certain point, you know, if they if you were in my shoes, I don't live in fear of other co-workers, right. And that's what I live in fear. I live in fear of Dave. Yes. If you were in my shoes, you would have said something before I've done it. I went at Pat Bev. Yeah. I would have said six months before I said something. Absolutely. Yes. You have a remarkable capacity for abuse. You are very patient person. You do. You let things roll off pretty darn well. I'm not trying to I'm not trying to start shit. I'm not trying to like I'm not trying to be a part of the fucking circus. Yeah. Obviously, it is now, but it's like, or maybe it's not because there hasn't been a single fucking certain talking about it. Yeah. Austin is going to delete this podcast. What do you mean? Nobody's talking about nobody mentioned that Austin. No, not a single person from the company mentioned that Austin deleted his tweet. Well, we'll see what people say. Now, I'm very curious about this because again, I think that Austin takes a lot of notes from Dave's playbook. I think he, you know, like Gaz says like, this is how Barsal does things. And like, bro, I've got yelled at by Gaz. When I first started here, Gaz was my direct boss, like everything I weekly meetings with Gaz where he chewed me the fuck out. Yeah. And not a single one of those meetings was even comparable to the last meeting we had with Austin, not even comparable. How so? What was different? Just a, just a, just a, just a dick, a bad guy. Well, it kind of words to do use it was just a total attack on everything that he could possibly think of. It was like when you get mad and you just start saying mean things, you know? Like people, it was like he lost his temper. He fully lost his temper. That's mean. I mean, what a way to put it. That's very, I haven't heard that. Use that way. I mean, it's in it's embarrassing. It's it truly is embarrassing. If you're going to play the part of the big business guy, you can't let me move in Jerry get under your skin that easily. Genuinely, bro, you think Dave doesn't get mad at Jerry, but he lets it go over him because he knows what he's doing. I think that I can't help but kind of wonder about the deleting of the tweet. Again, my point, what I was getting to is that because Austin knows Dave so well and knows his style. And in some ways emulates it, right? And as does gas as do a lot of people here, it's very at odds with Dave style. Dave would never delete that tweet. Dave has, you know, he wouldn't delete any tweet. He would never delete. He has some tweets about. He has tweets that he has continuously been canceled for time and time again that are just still up. Yeah. So he won't delete them. Yeah. So my size six jeans thing standing on business. Yeah. He doesn't take back anything. Tom Brady dick thing. Yeah. You know, that whole if you read the book, that old size six skinny gene thing was not was not his fault. I really don't even know much about it. That that one and people always reference it and it got bastardized and in such a ridiculous way, the way that he wrote that blog was not to say what people accused him saying. Yeah. He was mocking the lunacy of the ruling of that court case that anyone would argue that it's that moment in time when I because I didn't know the truth of it, when I learned about it from the book, that was the moment where I was like Dave's right. I don't know a lot of these people don't care about the truth and they were only out to get him. Yeah. That was the first when Shane got canceled for like to do in the Chinese accent or whatever, but he was like making fun of people doing like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There are attitudes doing the character. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. So anyway. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know much about that, but I just mean like, you know what I mean? Like he doesn't, he doesn't take back shit like that. Correct. So I think that's a crazy thing to say and then just take it back when the comments aren't going your way to be like, that's why you think that's why he did 100%. Oh, I think, I think his response will be well, it was getting like too much traction. Like, I'm not like, I don't know, like, how do I'm trying to like steal man his side of the argument of why it'd be appropriate to delete that? What do you think his best argument? Am I insane? Am I the only one that thinks the only reason you would ever delete that argument is because you realize you made a mistake using your boss's name to write a comment you shouldn't have. And now there's light being shined on it. And therefore, I don't know, I don't, I don't, I, is that a conspiracy theory or is that the law? I don't think it's an explanation here is a theory. I think it's a hypothetical. But that's awkward. That's razor though. It's like the, like the simplest answer is the answer. And that's where everyone's head went immediately. So, okay, so though, I'm not telling you, no, no, no, you're not in thinking of the logic points to that. That's the common, that's the belief that everyone has. Okay. Or that, a lot of people thought the Dave told him to delete it. Well, I think that what people don't know is that Austin originally wrote the size six, and that was him that wrote that Tom Brady's kid as a howitzer thing. That was Austin as well. Yeah. He has a long trail. And this is why the Austin comedy scene has become one. I just think like, bro, like, you picked a bad time, picked a bad time. Like Dave just did know that your flight was going to get delayed. 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Wow, we've been needing to downsize thanks for making it easy for me. Yeah. If they just play the game without all of Notre Dame anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would say I'm probably going to not sleep at all tonight. Probably toss an intern. Well, we're good thing we're recording in fucking 4-5 hours. Yeah. So like, you don't have to really don't have to sleep. I'm not super worried. I think the fact the way that I saw it honestly was and I probably maybe it's the wrong way of looking at it. I think I think Dave saying that this is the fastest growing podcast that we have kind of made me feel bulletproof for the time being. That is not in the sense of like I'm obviously like I'm not taking a victory lap obviously. But just like I know my role at the company. I think it's I think and I don't think I'm below a point. I don't think I'm speaking out of my level. Yeah. Yeah. I think I have earned the right to say what I said. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. By the way, anyone here is allowed to say what they want to say. Yeah. That is the beauty of this place, right? Any intern, producer, non-camera on person, they can all jump in the fray at any point and speak. I think for a long time people were like, you're too young to be able to talk. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's just, I think people hit you with the life experience for. Yeah. Well, you're an old man now. Yeah. For the six and a half of the first seven. You more than any of the women here have aged to dog years. I feel like I'm fucking 45. You are the prophecy. Yeah. Benjamin Buttoning. Well, that's, I mean, I'm very excited, well, slightly trepidatious, but mostly excited to see how this. Aren't you glad to watch somebody else say all those things? Yeah, I can't help but wonder if I haven't, you know, if, am I gonna, I'll probably catch some strays because I really pushed the narrative there. Oh, no, no. You were, I think you were just asking. You were asking good questions. You were asking the questions. Yeah. I just don't know how I see it any other way. I don't, I, there must be some, there must be an explanation. You want to investigate the investigators? Well, I also, I want to clear a name if this is a false sort of accusation. Right. We need to alibi Frosten and Dave. We need to know exactly what they were each doing. No, I need to know like, we need ring camera and it shows you. Yeah. Dave tweeting it out. Yeah. Like we need to get the security cameras. No shot. You have cameras. No shot. He doesn't have cameras. Yeah. Of course. Okay. Well. Great, great. Just a great saga. That was a incredible saga. Yeah. That was really good, man. And the bush will live on. That's the hardest I've ever laughed on the podcast. No, bye, bye, nothing. You talk about Tony for the fucking Tony, I mean, that's my dad if that's okay. Oh, please, we are not cutting anything from this episode. That is historical. Lost Tony's last name. I'm never. I can't never. You said that you brought worse case scenario is this gets back to Tony. That's the worst case scenario. And he's like, I was paying your dad for 20 years. What do you mean? I'm not a boss. That loses his job now. Oh, man. That's fantastic. That would be devastating. Unbelievable. Why don't we why don't we wrap there? I know I'm not trying to cut this short. Just we do have to be guys got to turn the episode around. It's fucking 11 p.m. Yeah. And we have to be back here at 9 a.m. So I think in the interest of savings, you know what I mean? No, I totally agree. There's plenty more to talk about. Yeah, yeah. Lots of great boy debt on Thursday. I'm glad. Thank you guys for waiting for me. I'm glad we were able to get this. I think that was worth it. Yeah. I was worth to wait. Oh my god. I had I was out of control laughing. I was making a fool of myself. My face is going to be dog penis red. I know that. I'm already dreading how that's going to look, but whatever. All right. Well, we'll see you guys on Thursday. Goodbye. [MUSIC PLAYING]. [MUSIC PLAYING]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses a chaotic and stressful travel ordeal where Harry’s flight is repeatedly delayed, leading to a last-minute 7 a.m. JetBlue flight that lands at 3 p.m. in New York.
  2. Francis and Harry collaborate to solve the flight crisis, with Jerry waking up to help wake Harry and deliver flight options, highlighting teamwork and urgency.
  3. The episode touches on internal team dynamics at a sports organization, particularly criticizing Austin for publicly criticizing the team and posting negative comments under Dave’s screen name.
  4. There is a key debate over whether Austin’s Instagram comment was authorized by Dave or posted independently, raising concerns about power abuse and transparency.
  5. The hosts express frustration at being publicly targeted by someone with no authority over them, emphasizing the importance of accountability and respect in leadership.
  6. A personal anecdote about a childhood experience with a father’s friend illustrates the emotional impact of being disrespected by someone not in authority.
  7. The episode concludes with a call for transparency, urging Dave to clarify his involvement in the comments, and acknowledges the need for accountability in leadership and team dynamics.

Summary:

The podcast details a series of escalating events stemming from a last-minute flight crisis that forces Harry and Francis to work through a chaotic travel ordeal. m. JetBlue flight that arrives late, prompting frantic coordination with Jerry to wake Harry and ensure he makes it back in time.

This logistical struggle is interwoven with deeper team conflicts, particularly around Austin’s public criticism of the team. The hosts express outrage at Austin’s actions—posting negative comments under Dave’s account—believing it violates professional boundaries and shows a lack of respect for team leadership. They argue that such behavior, especially when followed by deletion of tweets, reflects insecurity and abuse of power.

The episode draws a personal parallel to a childhood experience where a perceived boss was actually a co-worker, reinforcing the idea that people should not endure disrespect from those without authority. The hosts stress that public shaming without accountability undermines trust and morale. Ultimately, they call for transparency, urging Dave to confirm his role in Austin’s posts, emphasizing that leadership must be respectful and transparent to maintain team cohesion and integrity.

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Harry's flight was repeatedly delayed and changed due to airline issues, leading to a last-minute 7 a.m. flight that required intervention from Jerry to wake him up and ensure he could return for the recording.

The controversy involves Austin posting comments under Dave’s screen name criticizing the team, which the hosts believe constitutes an abuse of power. The situation sparked debate over authority, transparency, and accountability within the team structure.

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