'Liar' Husband's BIZARRE Bodycam in Missing Mamta Bhatt Case

where do you think she's at right now never before seen body cam video raising serious questions for the husband on trial accused of killing his missing wife dismembering her and leaving her body in several locations throughout northern virginia making you seem like you're this horrific monster right yeah today we went inside the home of nuresh bot for shaq here what's it like to buy a car from carvana 100 online and get it delivered to your door let me tell you your car is here mr shaq thank you mr carvana guy can't wait to take it for a spin only the best for you mr shaq hey have you always been so big tall and handsome not always i was 6 10 once seven days delivered or returned mr shaq not that i would you never do no i never do so buy your car today on carvana delivery fees may apply see our seven day return policy at carvana.com the first time prosecutors have laid out a story that his marriage was crumbling he was unfaithful and abusive he was unfaithful and abusive and murder was his way out his wife mom tabat vanished in 2024 and she was never seen again her body was never found not only do we have the new body cam video we have how the defense pressed the lead detective on the case we're on the case presented by law and crime i'm chris stewart well if you watch interrogations and body cam video you often see you often see you often see that a suspect might have a story cooked that a suspect might have a story cooked that a suspect might have a story cooked up but it's when law enforcement starts up but it's when law enforcement starts up but it's when law enforcement starts getting into the details getting into the details getting into the details and asking follow-up questions that you and asking follow-up questions that you and asking follow-up questions that you can start to see cracks can start to see cracks can start to see cracks if that person is guilty and that is if that person is guilty and that is if that person is guilty and that is what the prosecution what the prosecution what the prosecution tried to lay out today in the trial of tried to lay out today in the trial of tried to lay out today in the trial of naresh bach and then I say like I'm going to come you know like a register of the report and then they say it is the first time no it's not the first time and then you know a few times before it happens and he said like okay just find out all around and then he gave me the phone number and that takes me if you like you know you know tired of the finding and then you can find that and then you know like I already have that it takes and then after that next or another day I talk like that is body cam video of Naresh speaking to detectives inside his home on August 9th 2024 which is roughly 10 days after his wife Mamta Bhatt was last seen Mamta's mom spoke with her on July 29th she lives in Nepal and they were communicating over Facebook messenger and then Mamta didn't show up for work August 2nd at her nursing job at a local hospital and that is when co-workers became concerned now her husband told police that he last saw his wife on July 31st he claimed that she left for work and she never came back now here's the interaction that Naresh had with police when they first went to his house in the hours after she was first reported missing police went to the Bhatt home they knocked on the door and Naresh answered with Mamta and Naresh's baby girl in his arms I also want to come to the door now. Is it her? You can ask. Oh no, no. Hello sir, how are you? I'm officer Tim in Aspark, please. We're looking for Ms. Mom Takafle. Yeah, we see like on Tuesday, Wednesday, she left and then she says she's going to go either New York or Texas and then she left, like she had the phone and then she destroyed that phone and then she left. So she destroyed the phone and she left, she said she was going to New York. Yeah, her sister, like one of her sister. Okay, do you have any of their contact information? Yeah, like she has different three phones. I do have like two phone numbers, one phone number somebody other receiving, one another. I do have a contact number for the New York, I do have. Okay, can you show me that, please? Can you hand that in for us? Can we get those phone numbers from you? Yeah, we just want to see if she's okay because we have an employer calling to check. Did she say why she left? Yeah, because, you know, like we are about to separate and then the home inspection come here to, I'm about to sell the home. So, you know, like she want to say like, okay, I want to go, you know, with my sisters. And then she used. To work Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. And then sometimes she, I don't know where, you can come inside or I can come outside. It's up to you, sir. Up to you, sir, yeah. And, you know, like she used to live in a, I don't know the exact address. I know the building because, you know, I see notice there because, you know, I saw her email and then one place over there. And then I don't know, somewhere in Manassas because on the 8th, I think like on the 8th, she started a job. Last month? No, no, yeah, last month. So, yeah, on the 8th. So, you know, I'm not working since that. She say like, you know, she's going to be stay there. And then once she's going to be everything settled down, she will take the baby. She's not going to leave the baby with me. That's what she said. I know the building in Fallshore where she was still. She's living over there or Texas because I already conversation with her sister. She just did not reply me. And then, you know, she was asking me and then her mom. And then her mom is also asking for me. I don't know where is she. Naresh told police that his wife also has allegedly left multiple times in the past. And family and friends have pushed back on that, saying they don't believe that's true. And he said that this particular time back in August of 2024 was no different. And he also said that they were reportedly separating. They had talked of divorce. And some of her things had already been removed from the home. It is the first time then, you know, like I can say, oh, okay, where are you going this and that. This is like, you know, multiple times. I don't know, like, you know, we call you, but like, you know, sometimes she came back and then most of the hurry stuff, like regular stuff, she already, you know, like, uh, I think like in March, she already take regular stuff, like regular wearing, regular shoes. This is her shoes even like, you know, but the regular things she already take it, but like the normal thing, like, you know, fancy wear, you know, like a suits, special wear still we have here. Yeah. Okay. Even though mom to bots. Body has not been found. It's important to lay out some of the evidence that the prosecution is alleging in this case. According to records, investigators have footage of Naresh sometime in the middle of the night, driving around Northern Virginia, dropping large, heavy duty garbage bags into dumpsters and compactors at of all places, his daughter's babysitter's apartment complex. And although her remains were never located, police believe those bags did contain. Her body, but again, law enforcement do not have a body and that's what makes this murder case so complicated. Now today on the stand, a very important witness, the lead detective on this case, Claudia Ventura and prosecutors played detective Ventura's conversation with Naresh bot inside his home on August 9th. And one point of contention in this conversation is Naresh's account of what clothing his wife was wearing the last time he saw her. Okay. The last time you saw her, what was she wearing? When you saw her working in the kitchen, what was she wearing? I don't know. Like she had like, you know, usually like, you know, you could work. Ask the defendant. What was the item of clothing? The defendant saw mom to wearing the last time he saw her. Did you hear the defendant's answer? I didn't. Did I didn't. What did the defendant say to your question? What did he see her wearing? The last time he saw her? Blue scrubs. I'm going to step back and play at the time stamp of 44 minutes. Four minutes and 20 seconds. Detective, the defendant says when you ask him what was mom to wearing the last time the defendant saw her. She said, not on the blue scrubs. She works on the blue scrubs. Okay. I don't know. Like she had like, you know, usually. Here what the defendant said this time. This time he didn't know what she was wearing. He had previously told another officer that he saw her wearing blue scrubs. Yes. And now you ask him, what was she wearing? His answer. His answer was, I don't know. I don't know. And then proceeds to the kitchen. The time stamp for this portion of your video is 44 minutes and 35 seconds. And the counts are on the bottom left-hand corner. Like, you know, if you're working, this is the one. At that time, I did not notice, like, you know, because, you know, I did not remember, like, you know, what. But, like, usually we have this one and then the other red one we have. Like, is she wearing an apron? This one and then usually this one for cooking and then we have another one for the dishwasher. This is for the dishwasher. Okay. Okay, and she either wears those two. Do you know what clothing she was wearing one of the nightings? Usually at home, always like a t-shirt and then, you know, some like a trouser. Just ask the defendant again, what was Mopta wearing on the last night that he saw her? I didn't. Is he giving you a specific answer as to what it is he saw her wearing? This holiday, all plans, even unlimited, are just $15 a month. A holiday deal this good obviously deserves an enormously expensive holiday song like All I Want. Right. Okay, we can't afford that. You know what? Forget the music budget. We're going to stick with whatever's in the public domain. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Upfront payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months, or $180 for a 12-month plan required. $15 per month equivalent. Taxes and fees extra. 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She usually at home always like a T-shirt and then, you know, some like a trouser. Pant or trouser or some easy stuff like, you know, she has like. Did you hear the defendant say she usually wears a T-shirt and trousers? Yes. Is that different than I don't know and blue scrubs? Yes. Initially, Naresh told police that his wife maybe went to New York or Texas. And here's what he told them about why he thought that. So you're saying surely. Family, friends and everyone. But work, she won't. Yes. Okay. So police come by, tell you she doesn't show up for work. What are you thinking? Then, you know, like I was thinking about like, you know, she said like, you know, either I want to go to the, you know, like if something happens, you know, like, you know, if she want to move out or, you know, like we want to move near Texas. That's what like, you know, she always keeps saying, you know, so that, you know, like maybe she's in New York or something like that. She's trying to give me a hard time. And then I talk to her. She says. Maybe she's like, yeah, maybe she's trying to do that, you know, like this and that. What did you talk to the sister? I think that was like Friday. Okay. Friday before or after the police came? I think before that. You think? Yes. Okay. And how did you talk to the sister? Usually like on the phone. Okay. And what did the sister say? Sister said, let's like, you know, wait and see because, you know, at this. Pause at one hour, four minutes and 30 seconds. Did you hear what the defendant said that the sister is saying to the defendant? Yes. She told him to wait and see. Is this the sister from New York? Yes. This is the one he was speaking to on Facebook. Play the video. And, you know, like she didn't tell me because usually she tells her like, hey, I'm going here and there. Last, for the first time when she got, you know, she goes somewhere and then she takes her. After that, you know, she knows like, you know, then we got like, oh, okay. Then she said like, she, you know, like hiding those stuff. Even like, you know, then after that, she just let the one, only Sarita, her friend, work in the same hospital. And then she went to the hospital. And then they know always. But like, she said, please don't tell Naresh, I'm here. So, I'm going to, you know, work three days, go back. Okay. Yeah. So, you know, like they say, yes, day before yesterday, they say like, yes, every time she say like that. And then, but I always reply that, if I call them, I'm going to, you know, like tell them, hey, mom, I'm here. So, you know, that's what they say at this time. Before, they don't say anything. Okay. So, I know she's left in the past. How often does she contact to ask about her life? How often does she talk about baby when she's gone? Zero. She never calls her, okay. No. You say like during the work or something? If she leaves and she leaves the baby. No, usually she don't. She won't call to ask. She don't. Sometimes, you know, like there's a message, hey, we have a food or, you know, like something to do. Then she calls. You know, like, hey, how is baby doing? Like, you know, do you change the diaper or this and that? No. Okay. She don't. Okay. So, Friday comes around. Eight o'clock, four o'clock, she still hasn't shown up? No. Okay. After the police comes over here and, you know, talk to the sister, then, you know, like if it's going something wrong, you know, like maybe she's somewhere in a false church and then I talk to her mother because sometimes she, you know, like she says her mother, like, hey, I'm here. She keeps saying like by the, you know, grave, you know, in the big cemetery, this and that. So, you know, if she's gone. I don't know if she's there or not, you know, this and that because she was there before and then she had maybe some stuff over there. She was paying that, you know, money or something like that. That's why, you know, like we were thinking about that. That's why the police officer says it's me, you know, like, roaming around. If you're tied up, then I don't care. Okay. So, what address do you have in the false church of Fairfax for her? I don't know. I need to check that, you know. Exactly. I don't, you know, I don't have it on my mind. But you had, you went by there a few days ago. How did you find the address? You went yesterday. Okay. I don't need my address. I can drive down. You can just drive there? Yes. Because, you know. Do you need GPS or anything? No, because, you know, like where we used to live is pretty close from here. What's the name of the road? Lee Highway. So, it's off of Lee Highway. What's around Lee Highway? I can't show you the map. Here is the, like, you know, this is the Lee Highway. Here is, like, you know. That big apartment. Here is the big cemetery in the Route 50. Once we go from here, right there. We're going to go up on that. Yeah. Where are you going? Is there any businesses close to it? 7-Eleven. We're going to do that. Oh, cemetery. The big cemetery. What is it? What is the name of the cemetery? Cemetery. Something cemetery. I don't know the name. What type of cemetery is it? Is it for the public? Like, is it? I don't know much about that. It's a big cemetery. And even she long drive over there. I don't even know the name, but, like, it's a big cemetery. Why did she go there? To drive. No, at this time. Why would she go there in the past? What would make her want to go there? Oh, at that time, you know, like, I mentioned, like, you know, either you have to live with your parents or either you have to live with me. But, so her parents used to live in that area? No, no. We don't know, like, whom she was living with. Her mom is the only person. We don't know whom she was living with. Oh, okay. So we need to talk to mom to figure all that out. What's mom's phone number? I don't have a phone number. I know it's, like, 13 digits or something like that. Does her brother live with mom? Yes. Okay. And so I know a lot of people refer to the people that live in Texas and New York as their sister, sister. But they're not blood sisters. No, no, no. Okay. They're family. We don't have any, like, you know, even I don't have any, like, you know, blood relatives over here. She doesn't have any blood relatives over here. Okay. But she has more relatives than I do. Okay. In the area or just in general? Just in general. And then even in Texas, she has, like, not a lot of close. And then in Texas and then New York, she has a lot of friends. She has a lot of friends. Yes. But no blood related. No blood related. Okay. Because she's a nurse and then, you know, like, a lot of nurses come from our country. Okay. Yeah. That's why, you know, like, you know, whoever, I think, like, I think they're, you know, in a class, you know, like, in a one-season class, if there's, like, 120 nurses, out of 120, at least, like, 80, 90 nurses come over here. Then those all are very close friends. Okay. And I know the Nepal community is very close. Very close, yes. I mean, I'm sure you have Facebook and you can see, like, her missing has blown up. Yes. Has become everybody's topic. No, not like this. I can see. I was just trying to, like, ask some questions. Well, I said cemetery. It's not a funeral. It's a big cemetery. I don't need to understand something. Naresh is raising several theories as to where Mamta Bhat may have gone. Previous testimony laid out a marriage that was allegedly on the brink of ending. A friend testified that Mamta had been abused by Naresh physically. She also said that Mamta confided in her that Naresh was cheating on her. And she also alleged that Naresh and his mom, We're not happy with that. Mamta because she did not clean the house enough. Now in body cam video, Naresh denies the marital issues. We do not have arguments. Well, when you did have arguments, they would become physical. No, they never became physical. No. One time when we was in a fall shorts, she doesn't eat like, you know, non-veg. At that time, uh, we have a small table like this and then there was a non-veg, something, something happens. I forgot that. That was like not in my mind. And then she did something like, you know, this and then the plate blown up and then that was here and then, uh, that wasn't very hot and then, uh, that wasn't like intentional, but like we were talking about something, you know, like that is even like before baby. Yeah. And then, you know, like I just eat like this and then with the plates and then that plate goes here and then she just like. You know, with the rice and everything everywhere. 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And then, uh, that wasn't very hot. And then, uh, that wasn't like intentional, but like, we were talking about something, you know, like that is even like before baby. Yeah. And then, you know, like I just did like this and then with the plates and then that plate goes here and then see just like, you know, with the rice and everything everywhere. And then I just take that plate and then you stop like that. In our 18 minutes, nine seconds, when you see the defendant gesturing with his hands, what's your understanding of what it is he's doing in this video? That he, his hand made contact with her head. Okay. Everything. And then because she doesn't eat. And then I say, I'm not going to eat. I'm not going to stay here. I'm going to go out. And then just, I step out. And then after that, how we fight, we don't talk to each other. That's how we fight. Okay. And then over here as well. If we are like, not happy with each other, we don't talk. And then, you know, like most of the time we avoid a food sandwich. You know, like she was cooking for me. You know, like I said, I'm not going to eat for you, what you cook. That's how we fight. Okay. You know, like, you know, that's like, you know, some, some kind of family stuff as well. That's how, you know, like usually that is more effective way to fight to our families. Okay. So you're, you're saying the only time it, you know, if it did become physical, it was the plate incident that happened. Yes. That wasn't like, you know, physical, like, you know, this, this fight. And then that was like, you know, the plate and then stuff like that. That is the only time that is before the date. Okay. And then we do not have any physical. And then top of that, we do not have, no. Okay. Yeah. Even like she doesn't do like that. And then I doesn't, I don't do like that. Like, you know, with a louder sound. And the reason I'm asking, because again, the community has come together and we've gotten a lot of information on essentially them picturing, making you seem like you're this horrific monster, right? Yeah. So that's why I'm coming to talk to you just to kind of figure out like where all of that is coming from. Right. It is important to note that at the time of this interview that we're watching August 9th, 2024, there was a lot of public attention on the search for mom to bot. And there were major questions already being raised for her husband. Naresh kept saying that he was like everyone else though, that he was trying to find his wife. He even went on local television. Here's his interview that he gave six days after this body cam video. So this was on August 15th. He spoke with W USA nines, Katie Lusso in the evening of the Wednesday, we were here and then we ate together. Yes. It was like normal day, like other regular days, just, you know, like, you know, we were taking care of our babies. It was like very normal in like, you know, very good, like, you know, since like two months, you know, like before that, you know, one time we have like some arguments because, you know, yeah. So let's go back to August 9th. And there was also just kind of a bizarre moment that came up when law enforcement asks Naresh where he thinks his wife went. And he brings up the gang MS-13. Where do you think she's at right now? If you, if someone asks you, where do you believe she's at? All these social media and then stuff like that, you know, like, I don't believe either, like, you know, she was something, some people saying like, you know, DS-13 something, DSK-13, is that involved? Or sometimes, you know, I don't know, like, you know, I don't know what's going on. What was it? DS-13, something gang or something About an hour, 20 minutes, 18 seconds. Detective, can you clarify what the defendant is saying at this point where he thinks Mopta may be and what it is he said in addition to that? I don't, I don't understand what he's. Did you hear? Let me step it back. I'll play it again. Some people saying like, you know, DS-13 something, DS-K-13. Is that involved? Or sometimes, you know, I don't know. Like, you know, I don't know what's going on. What was that? Who did you say? DS-13, something gang or something they said. MS-13? Something like that. People say it's like, you know, MS-13 or something like that. MS-13? So this is when, yeah, this is when he mentioned. MS-13, but very vaguely and then moves on to other stuff. In your training and experience, do you understand what MS-13 is? Yes, it's a gang. It's a gang? Mm-hmm. Again, this is in response to your question where he thinks Mopta is. Yes. I think Mopta disappeared, like, a long time ago. Almost a month ago, you know, like, the young guy, something, something like that. I don't know. I don't know much about this. But where do you believe she's at? Because you're saying that's all on social media where people are claiming, hey, maybe it's this, maybe it's that. And the MS-13, because someone else is a kid. Where do you think she's at? I don't, I'm not like, you know, I don't know, like, maybe, yeah, if, like, you know, she's trying to hide, you know, like, everybody knows by this time. So she can hide. I, I don't know, maybe, where I believe, like, you know, I already checked, you know, those places, you know, where I believe maybe on that apartment. I just went out, you know, stay outside in the parking lot, you know, check the mail, you know, phone mail at the main site. There is a box. There was, like, you know, I was thinking about it, and then I don't see any, any symptoms. And then the, usually she used to go to her friends, and then she said one of the Filipino friend, and then, you know, I don't know the Filipino friend. And then we have same common thing. Her close friend say, like, yeah, she say, like, you know, she want to go with the Filipino friend. And then she suggested, don't go with the, you know, like, other people who you don't know very well. You know, you have different language, everything. And then, you know, she say, like, you know, I ask her, did you talk to that? And even, like, she say to me, I'm going to go with the Filipino friend. And then she say, like, she's not there. So these are the possible area. If, you know, like, she is trying to hide. And, you know, sometimes she say, like, you know, really, like, you know, some unhappy condition. How was she said? You know, something like that. You know, if you cook food, in fact, not eat, I'll disappear from the world, then you will eat. Then who's going to cook you like that? You know, that's what, that's what, you know, we argue sometimes. So, Texas and then New York are the only place, you know, if you want to hide or. Now, another statement that could be seen as bizarre is Naresh's apparent plans for when Mamta's mystery is over. He says that he plans on leaving the country. How are you feeling right now? I'm kind of like, you know, kind of like sometimes very stressful. You know, like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do, what's going to happen, you know, like, how are we going to move forward? And then, you know, I already, like, discussed with some of our families, you know, like, once everything, this goes normal, she comes back, so whatever happens, I decided to, like, you know, move to back, you know, back to the home. Yeah, back to the home. Our 31 minutes, 28 seconds. Detective, did you hear the last thing? That the defendant said at this point. Once everything passes, he wants to move back home. Detectives then asked Naresh about his wife's mental health. Does she suffer from mental health? She believes no, but, like, no, I have, like, no, I heard sometimes she was taking medications, but, like, she didn't tell. And then yesterday, I found one medication, and then that wasn't for that, that is for the abortion. You know, I found that, you know, that is from Nepal, too. Where is that? Nepal or India. Nepal. Where is that medication at? I found it upstairs. Okay. What did you do with it? Nothing, but I did. It's still upstairs? Yeah. Can you show us? You said it's for abortion? Yeah. Okay. Do you believe she was pregnant? No. She had something, I don't know the name of it. What's the name? What types of pills is the defendant indicating he found? Abortion pills. Like a pill or an IUD? I don't know. Do you want to get a picture? And where did you find this? Here. In there? Yeah. Okay. OCD. That's OCD. Go to nocd.com to learn more. When an intruder approaches a home, they expect a camera. What they don't expect. Stop. This is SimpliSafe. Police are on the way. 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Sometimes for, like, you know, dental, sometimes for pain, you know, like, stuff like that. And then usually I have to go to the VA clinic and then I have a. The regular one now I'm taking vitamin D. Okay. Well, that's good for you. You said she has a pink bag? Kind of pink? Yeah, kind of. There's a big pink bag in the other room. Is that hers? No, that is the diaper bag. I think, like, you see, like, the backpack, right? Yeah. In this room, I don't think it is. No. Five minutes, ten seconds. Detective, are you making observations inside of the closet at this point? Yes. I'm looking around to see if there's any more medication. But I noticed a little bit of. I noticed a lot of. I noticed Lysol, you know, cleaning products while I'm looking through the closet or viewing. Detective, can you stand and identify? And I'm at one hour, 35 minutes and 17 seconds. You said you saw Lysol. Could you identify? Can you identify on the screen for the jury where you're seeing a bottle of Lysol? Right there. At this point, at this time, on August 9th, did you make any observations of any other cleaning supplies? There's a solution here, and then here there's, like, white. I don't know if you could see it after. Do you observe the defendant's bed? I do. Do you observe where the defendant's bed is in relation to his bedroom? Yes. So this is another closet, and then the bed headrest is on top of the frame of the closet. The bed frame is touching the closet frame? Right here. You said on top of. Yes, like touching. Like so this, the bed frame is on, touching on top of the closet frame. Thank you. Thank you. Do you guys have cameras in the house? No. No? Did you ever have cameras? Once we buy this house, almost, it's been like literally less than a year. Yeah. You know, like we feel like we don't need a camera. And then we bring cameras, but like, you know, just one or two weeks ago. Oh, okay. Yeah. You bought cameras. No. Like she got the free stuff from somewhere. Oh. Yeah. Was it ever installed? No. Just, I can show you. This stuff on the other. It's been like two or three. When our baby grows. She got this free stuff. She got these free stuff. Oh, okay. She got free stuff? Yeah. That's awesome. This and those stuff. Okay, sir. So we're going to head out, but I'm going to call you within like a few hours so we can set up that time when you can come into the station so we can get that over with. Yes. Okay. You know, like give me the time, you know, like how long does it take? Yeah, of course. And then that decides where I should put my baby, you know. Yeah. And then we'll give you extra time for that. Do you have any questions for me? So far it's good. So far good? Okay, perfect. Call me if you have any questions, okay? Thank you so much. And then do you know like about like, you know, what the social media posts that guys are saying? Like, you know, I already spoke to that guy. What do you mean? The information that you sent me? I wouldn't relay any information, even if I tell you, yep, I spoke to someone. I just wouldn't say anything because of the way it's blown up. I don't want misinformation to get out, right? Prosecutors also played body cam video from another meeting that Naresh had with detectives five days later on August 14th, 2024. They asked about the days leading up to his wife's disappearance. So Wednesday, the last day. You say you saw her. You guys went home all day? Yes. Okay. Did you guys do anything? throughout the day throughout the day nothing special like sometimes you know I do not remember it was Tuesday or Wednesday oh no she did the picking of that you know like the picking of the greens on the trail either Tuesday or Wednesday yeah okay usually that's in the evening okay usually that's in the evening what about in the morning time what did you guys do on Wednesday usually in the morning time we don't do nothing and then you know usually she's the one who cook if I have to clean the I don't think I clean that bathroom I do the cleaning bathrooms and then you know clean these stuff here she just do the dishes and then cooking I don't know yeah that's what you know that's what the regular schedule is and then sometimes oh sometimes she's the new hire and then she has to do like you know now I remember sometimes you know like except I don't know not the except I don't know that's something EKG okay yeah she had like you know she said like she had like you know she said like she had like you know some she need hands-on on that EKG she was preparing for that and then you know just usually we do that taking care of the baby and then you know okay so that's what you did all day Wednesday the last day that you saw yes and in Naresh's own words we also saw a statement that he wrote to police about where he was on July 31st which was the last day he says he saw his wife just read off for the jury what it is the defendant wrote about everything he did on July 31st okay once wake up with my daughter feed her and went out somewhere after that and did some grocery my wife went out for picking up a wild grass for vegetable if she is seen at the USCIS at Fairfax that is very hard to make for her if closer she can make any appointment she did not say to me about any appointment on 31st of the July 2024 we had the green vegetable for the dinner in the evening with rice and I'll check the who signatures at the bottom of this document Naresh on cross-examination the defense pointed out how cooperative Naresh bot was allowing police to come into his house and he answered all the questions that they asked when you knocked on that door the first time he welcomed you all inside yes in fact he welcomed you to various parts of the house yes did he did was there any point during really any of these three encounters with him that he declined to give you access to any part of the house no there any point at which he declined to answer questions no and was he generally overall in terms of responsiveness this whole day all plans even unlimited are just fifteen dollars a month a holiday deal this good obviously deserves an enormously expensive holiday song like all I want right okay we can afford that you don't forget the music budget we're gonna stick with whatever's in the public domain give it a try at mint mobile.com slash switch upfront payment of $45 for three months $90 for six months or $180 for 12-month plan required $15 per month equivalent taxes and fees extra new customer offer for initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes may slow when network is busy see terms some personality quirks are really funny like I talked to my left foot more than I talked to my right you know what's not funny and not a personality quirk OCD although the term OCD is widely recognized it's misunderstood by most people it doesn't mean being tidy or clean it's having obsessive fears thoughts and urges you question your character you question your safety that's OCD breaking the OCD cycle takes effective treatment go to no CD calm to learn more responsive and cooperative with you all yes he was appeared to be very polite is that accurate yeah so it sounds like from the video that there was let me ask you the different way do you speak other languages other than English I speak Spanish and so are you you're familiar with people who for whom English is not their native language yes you encounter them in your daily job I do and you do you encounter people in your daily job for whom English is not their primary language who speak pretty good English yeah and who will attempt to have extensive conversations with you not in their native language yes in English yes was your what was that what you were encountering with mr. bot to the best of your knowledge someone who for whom this was not as English is not his primary language can you ask that I can ask it if I ask it poorly did you did you believe that mr. bot's first language was English based on that first encounter no stating the obvious he has a thick accent yes right is it safe to say that at various times and I won't go through I made notes all through all three videos which were in excess of two and a half hours where you appeared to have some level of miscommunication did you encounter from your memory now that you've sat through all of that again moments where he didn't understand you or you didn't understand him yes and I would ask him again when you knew it was happening yes you would ask it again mm-hmm possible it was happening you didn't know is that correct sure and and that that happened in several places and to be fair he asked you for clarification often that correct I don't remember okay he would have an expression on his face periodically that looked like he didn't understand what you were talking about is that correct I don't recall that do you remember having moments where he was not answering a question that you thought had been asked clearly and he wasn't answering directly that question yes he would talk about other things and was it always clear that he fully understood what question you were asking no but at times he would ask me again do you remember having moments where he was not answering a question that you thought had been asked clearly and he wasn't answering directly that question yes he would talk about other things and was it always clear that he fully understood what question you were asking no but at times he would ask me again if he didn't understand he asked you frequently when he didn't fully understand something yes and you don't know if that's every time because you don't know that you were actually always communicating well correct yeah and you didn't have an interpreter there for an example to clarify those moments where maybe he doesn't have the language or you doesn't don't have the language right and just as one example at some point you're asking about shoes you didn't have an interpreter there for an example to clarify those moments where maybe he doesn't have the language or you doesn't don't have the language right and just as one example at some point you're asking about shoes and he's describing some shoes and then he where maybe he doesn't have the language or you doesn't don't have the language right and just as one example at some point you're asking about shoes and he's describing some shoes and then he points out the door and says and and just as one example at some point you're asking about shoes and he's describing some shoes and then he points out the door and says and knows yes and I think one of the officers and he's describing some shoes and then he points out the door and says and knows yes and I think one of the officers says flip-flops and he says yes though knows yes and I think one of the officers says flip-flops and he says yes though somebody else gave him the language for says flip-flops and he says yes though somebody else gave him the language for the word for that somebody else gave him the language for the word for that yes he says flip-flops and then says I the word for that yes he says flip-flops and then says I don't know the defense also argued that yes he says flip-flops and then says I don't know the defense also argued that it should be noted that English is not don't know the defense also argued that it should be noted that English is not Naresh's first language and that can it should be noted that English is not Naresh's first language and that can help explain some of the Naresh's first language and that can help explain some of the statements that may have seen help explain some of the statements that may have seen suspicious or inconsistent statements that may have seen suspicious or inconsistent in his conversations with detectives suspicious or inconsistent in his conversations with detectives that the jury watched in the body cam video the defense also that the jury watched in the body cam video the defense also highlighted Naresh's actions inside the cam video the defense also highlighted Naresh's actions inside the home you are you aware was highlighted Naresh's actions inside the home you are you aware was anyone else providing financial home you are you aware was anyone else providing financial support to him at that point not that I anyone else providing financial support to him at that point not that I knew anybody else buying the support to him at that point not that I knew anybody else buying the groceries not that I knew anybody knew anybody else buying the groceries not that I knew anybody else paying the mortgage not that I groceries not that I knew anybody else paying the mortgage not that I knew and for the electricity for knew and for the electricity for that television set right nobody else paying as far as you know right? Right. And at this point, he's the primary person responsible for NEMA, right? Yes. So, does that strike you as something that might stress you out? It can. And not just because I can't find a babysitter? Yes, but when I asked, I remember asking him, he said that, he was stressed because he couldn't work because he couldn't find a babysitter. So, the work was on there when asked. Sure. I'm just talking about your characterization. Oh, okay. Now, at some point, you talked little bit about a relationship that Mr. Bhatt had with one of Mamta Kaple's friends. Did you know anything about that at the time? And I'm talking about someone that he knew before he knew Mamta. That he had mentioned? Yes. I knew about it when he mentioned it. And this is from the August 9th video, by the way, just to Yes, when I'm asking him about it. Did you, were you aware that there had been a sort of agreement, a potential engagement or marriage between that person and Mr. Bhatt back before Mamta ever came from Nepal to the U.S.? He had mentioned that. And that this is something that amicably ended? Yes. And that in fact Mamta knew this lady and they had been friends? I don't recall that one. There are, I think, some things that Mr. Bhatt talks about that are outside of the realm of experience of a lot of people that grew up here. One of them is he talks about Mamta Kaple going out to gather some greens for vegetables. Did you take that to, did you understand that to mean that she was actually foraging for vegetables? Yes. She was actually foraging for some food for them to eat from local grasses in the area. Yes. She would use it to cook. I'm sorry, go ahead. She would use that to, when they cooked. Sometimes people like use dandelions for salads and other things like that. So that struck you as something that, that you have seen before, you have some familiarity with? I don't. That was the first time I had heard of that. Okay. Had, did you become aware that that is a thing? That sometimes people who grew up in a countryside will do? Yes. So I want to move forward to the time that you're talking with Mr. Bhatt about when he had last seen her, and you're very focused in on the idea that at some point he told a previous officer, you know, that he had last seen her in scrubs, in blue scrubs. Do you remember that part? Yes. And at that point, that was August 9th, and Mom Takafle had been missing for over a week. Yes. Several days more than a week. I don't want to get too personal. Do you live with anyone other than yourself? Yes. Come on, tell me who. Who do you do? I live with my wife, my daughter, and my son. Okay. Do you remember what a person that you lived with was wearing nine days prior? No. It's hard to remember what you were, what you may have been wearing nine days ago, right? Much less what someone else was? Yes. So it would not have been unusual that Mr. Bhatt might not remember something from nine days ago that was an article of the Times. Is that correct? Can you ask that in a better way? Yes, please. So, that's okay. It's not an unusual thing that someone wouldn't remember what someone else was wearing nine days ago. Yes. And another sort of cultural thing, the, Mr. Bhatt describes, and you can ask that in a better way. Yes. So, that's okay. Yes. So, that's okay. Yes. So, that's okay. from the layout of the bedrooms that they are sparse in some ways, right? Do you agree with that? Yes. And he showed you the place that Nima slept, and it's a cot, and then it's like a blank mattress and then an area on the floor. Yes. And he describes that they would trade off, whoever was not working would sleep with Nima and sleep on the floor, and whoever was working would get the bed. Yes. Had you ever had anybody describe those sort of sleeping arrangements before? Never. And had you had people describe sleeping arrangements where parents are in fact working two completely different shifts? Like ever? Yeah, sure. Is that something you'd heard of before? Yes. So you don't always get to have your nine-to-five job where both parents are coming and going at the same time, correct? Yes. And again, I'm drawing a little bit on the fact that you have experience with a migrant population in our community, just as I do. A lot of people that I interact with, are coming from a migrant background, didn't grow up here, and come from different cultural backgrounds. So this approach, from your experience, have you seen that in other places in the immigrant community where people have unusual sleeping arrangements or their work schedules just don't line up that way as they're trying to make a living? Yes. So there's another, and this is just, again, sort of focusing on a very specific occasion where you asked him about August 2nd, and he answers your question about what happened on August 2nd by telling you about something that happened on July 4th. Yes. Remember that? Do you know, did you figure out why he, he thought it was useful to tell you about July 4th in answer to your question? No. But he went back to it twice, right? Yes. But you never did figure out what he thought was helpful to you to know about. Yes. In terms of August 2nd. But it was purposeful. He kept going back to it, right? He did. Yeah. And you don't, did you find Mr. Bott, did you find him to be succinct and to the point whenever he answered your questions? No. Right? Mr. Bott talks a lot. Yes. And, but you don't know if that's just the way he talks all the time. No. Because the only interaction you have with him are these three occasions, right? Yes. Maybe, maybe four, but the three definite conversations. And so as he's, you can, not to make fun of the author, but there's a couple of officers that you can see visibly yawning while you're having this conversation with Mr. Bott. And the conversations were somewhat rambling, correct? Yes. Were there times that his accent was thick enough that you had trouble understanding him? Yes. More often than, well, maybe not. A lot, right? That happened quite a bit? Yes. Sorry, my notes are fairly rambling also. So, and now going forward to, again, on that second visit that you have with him, and he's describing a, you know, an interaction with her where he says, Where a ball gets slipped and it hits her in the head. Yes, a plate. And he says at one point that it wasn't intentional. Do you remember that? Yes. And so as he's trying to describe it for you, did you understand everything he was saying there? For the most part. Right. There's bits and pieces of it that, given the language and the accent, it's hard to understand what he's saying. Yes. But he was very specific that in that interaction, the contact had been unintentional. Yes. Now, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence in this case. And it's fair to say that that circumstantial evidence seems strong. And that circumstantial evidence points at Naresh Bhatt. But it's also important to note, as we continue to cover this trial, that without a body, this is a very complicated murder case. And we'll see what the jury decides. This is a trial that is expected to go for as long as seven days. Seven weeks. That will do it for On the Case, presented by Law & Crime. I'm Chris Stewart. We'll see you next time.