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Lexi Gold On Joseline's Cabaret, Cardi B, Gangsta Boo, Chrystale Wilson, Houston (Full Interview)

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Lexi Gold On Joseline's Cabaret, Cardi B, Gangsta Boo, Chrystale Wilson, Houston (Full Interview)

The interviewee, an African-American from East Memphis, shares a deeply personal journey shaped by early-life challenges, including intense bullying at school due to his sensitive skin, which led to emotional distress and the creation of self-harming notes. Despite being in a supportive environment with caring teachers and family, he struggled with financial barriers to higher education, ultimately choosing to stop attending college after being denied financial aid, a decision he later reflects on with regret. He credits resilience, faith, and personal growth—fueled by a third-grade teacher’s affirmation of his “blessing” and support from family and church—as key to overcoming trauma. He describes a shift in identity, now embracing his skin and rejecting heavy makeup, and shares how social media has become a space for self-expression and connection. A major highlight is his collaboration with artist Crystal Wilson, whose experience of being overlooked inspired her to support his music, particularly the new single “Runny,” which he promotes as a joyful, inclusive dance trend. The interview also touches on Houston as a new chapter in life, with advice for newcomers to embrace the city’s vibrant culture, food scene—especially Stanford 8—and the local tradition of never leaving on a Sunday. Reflecting on his journey, he emphasizes the importance of self-love, forgiveness, and the idea that bullying is a temporary phase, urging others to find joy and strength in themselves. He also shares a unique perspective on female artists with exotic dance backgrounds, naming Cardi B and Trina as influential figures, not due to personal connections but because of their resilience and success in overcoming stigma. The story is one of survival, transformation, and a deep personal commitment to uplifting others through authenticity and positivity.

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- Care to share your race, ethnicity, or nationality. - I am African-American. - And what is the main language you speak at this point? - English. - And do you speak any other languages aside from English? - But keep those, F-meal. - And that little amount that you do have knowledge of, how did you pick that up? - I have a housekeeper. - She teaches me when she comes back, equally mom. - And aside from that, just curious here, when it came to maybe like those school days in your past and your education, did you ever take any foreign language classes back then? - I took a foreign language class from 10th to 12th. - And which language was that? Was it also Spanish as well? - Spanish is. - And back in those days, was that a requirement for you or an elective? - A requirement. - And just for further clarification, was Spanish language the requirement, or you could have chosen from a variety of languages and you fell on that one? - Well, I believe in school, they gave us a choice between Spanish, French, and something else, and I just chose Spanish. - And why that choosing there back in those days? - Just 'cause I feel like, that's like kind of like a second nature for most people. So I just want to be aware of it. - And did you take that class or those classes serious back then? Did you try to learn the language? Did you try to give it an on a shot? - I did take it serious, but sometimes I was lost in the middle of it. - And zooming out when it comes to your education, how far did you end up getting with that? - What Spanish or with my education? - Just your education, zooming out. I know you mentioned 10 to 12 grade, you took these classes-- - Oh, yes, I graduated high school. - Graduated high school. Did you get any further than that with your education, perhaps? - No, I didn't go to college. - And everybody's reasons are different, but for you, why stop your education at that point in your life? - Truthfully, I got accepted to college. I applied for college, but I was so adamant about going to a Jackson State University, just to be a J-set major at. And I just felt like I was going to get a scholarship or something, or not even a scholarship, just like a grant. So at the time, my dad made more than the limit for the financial aid. So he basically told me to drive my mom, but I used him. And I said, I was just like, oh, I need it right now, I need it right now. As soon as they denied me for the financial aid, I was, I don't know, I was just so stuck on, like, basically, being denied, when they didn't even deny me in school, they just denied me for financial aid. But I was just so stuck on that and, because I didn't have the money to pay for college and design. So I just like gave up, I just got a scourge. And looking back, can you regret on that moment there, are those moments there, or not going back to that at another point of time in your life or? I would say a small amount of me kind of like look back like, okay, I wish I would have got at least a little more, you know, learning everything. But I feel that sometimes school doesn't even teach you everything you learn today is in today's world, like just on a day-to-day basis. Like, it's all about physical experience, you know. If you're not in the situation, you wouldn't know what to do. But some things I just feel like school ones eat you. Now, when it comes to the variety of schools that you attended back in those days, did any of your classmates or schoolmates end up becoming well-known or famous themselves? I would say, it's probably probably a couple of guys I know want to, you know, in a bill, football. As far as, I know probably two rappers that, you know, from my hometown. But that's pretty much it. And when you say two rappers from your hometown, you went to school with them as well, where they were just in your hometown as you were growing up. Just my hometown, I kind of know, familiar them growing up, and then they end up, you know, making it. And who did you have a front row seat, so to speak, too, as far as those recording artists you just mentioned? Do you want to share their names? No, because I don't really socialize with them that much anymore. And what about the athletes that made it to the NFL? Care to share any of their names? For a guy, I've got the whole name, like, I just don't have any names that he used to call him in school. Do you want to say it? Just curious there. Now, all right, well, when it comes to your education, anything else in regards to that, that you want to mention about it? Can you give me an example of what you're watching me? Well, just if anything, any other interesting facts or any interesting stories in regards to your education that you wanted to mention, just while we're on that subject there of your life? Well, okay, it's cool. And it's just like a bag, whatever, like a small bag. I was bullied in school, when I was in high school, I was bullied. And I'm just because I want to puberty and design. So my skin was like extra sensitive, so I had a lot of breakouts, really. And I just used to get picked on a lot from in high school about my skin. Just for everyone to come back around. I have to watch me, it's crazy. Now, in regards to bullying, that's a serious topic there that a lot of people go through. Maybe some watching this interview or listening to this interview right now. How did you get through that? How did you persevere through that? Because sometimes you see those headlines of a kid getting bullied in school. And they're not here to even be in an interview, to even talk about that. Yeah, that's very serious. How did you get through it? How did you cope with that? I was saying, I cope with it. Like through a lot of times, I used to write tools out of notes when I was in. I literally had to throw that book away because I found it one day when I went back to my dad's house in my old room. I found it where I put it up at, hidden in the closet. I went in there and found it. I was like, oh my god, I used to go through so much. I don't think about it now. I don't talk about it now. But back then, I was just in a dark space growing up when I was a child. So I had to pray about it. And I had to have faith a little. We got kind of more so, just keep pushing, keep striving. Keep moving forward. And just basically remind myself of, this is temporary. This is not where you're going to save forever. You're, you know, I'm a kid, I'm young. Like, you know, hopefully when I get older, it doesn't be like this. Who is not going to be like this? And just curious, you know, on its worst instance of bullying that you've faced. How bad did things get for you? Was it verbal assaults? Was it physical assaults? Did things get well, it wasn't at the point where I was fighting. But it was more so like, when it became like very aggressive, you know, with people or aggression with people. I was kind of just a boy. It just, you know, I was just like, do my work good. Asked to get how bad it's going to go to the bathroom. You know, crying about the room. They just do like smaller things when I was younger. But it's crazy because I never really talked about this. But here we are. But more like my teacher is seeing a lot in me. They're seeing like the growth in me. They're seeing like, you know, I would say the gift in me. And they were important to me, like, based on when I was younger. It kind of like just uplift me. Like, you know, they care about me. And that, you know, don't really focus on, like, foolishness, you know, in a way. Or negativity, basically, like, you know, you are beautiful. You aren't who you are. You know, no one could be you, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're very special. In a modified mind, third grade teacher told me one day. that you have a blessing over you, like God is gonna bless you one day. And she said, I don't know what it is. I can't tell you what it is. I don't know what it is. And I didn't understand what she meant. I was like, what do you mean? Like, you know, I didn't understand what you mean. I mean, like, actually, and I'm gonna be honest, let me take it back. It's not my very very teacher. It was my serving very teacher, serving very teacher. She told me, like, you know, you have a blessing over you. I don't know what it is, but I can't tell you. She's like, I'm just you know, letting you be aware and addressing like, like, because I guess she had the gift of discernment, you know, she could see things like, and she could feel things. So when she seemed like all the, you know, the negativity with the checking, the, the bullying and the picking on me, she pulled me out in the class, you know, I don't know how away one day and just told me that and told me to keep my hand up. Now, it sounds like you had a foundation here, support system from faculty of the school. What about your own parental guidance? Did you, did you let your parents know this stuff was going on? Did they see that this stuff was going on? Were they oblivious to it? Um, I wouldn't say oblivious. Well, my mom, she was like, she was ready to fight. It was something I would say something. She was trying to go to school and like, trying to find which kid was it. But um, with my dad, me and my dad kind of had a rocky relationship growing up. So it's like I was telling something and he was like, he heard me, but he was kind of like brushing off like, you know, going his own little world. Just because of like, I don't know what he was going through back then. I would think that it was personal, but maybe he was going through something that I couldn't see, you know, um, he couldn't see itself, you know, so it began to be like a rocky relationship with me and him and I just felt like, you know, I wasn't feeling good at home and I wasn't feeling good at school. So I was just in a dark space. Now, there are some of the audience that can understand where those suicidal notes came from with the context that you provided here. But, uh, is that how far it got for you? It was just the suicidal notes and when you say suicidal notes, you'd mean like a note you would leave on earth in the event you took your own life for people to read. Um, well, try to remember. Take your time here. You referred to them as suicidal notes. So, well, because, okay, because I did put in there, like, I used to write, just write, write on the paper, like, you know, I had a notebook, spiraling up it and I just used to write every day that I was upset. I'm just writing, I'm writing, writing and I would kind of wish bad on myself, curse myself, with God. You know, I'm like, you know, God, just take me away right now. I don't want to be here. I can't do it. You know, there's nothing like for me. You know, I'm trying and I can't do it, you know. Got it. And, uh, you know, reflecting back when all this was going on now that, uh, you're far removed from that, uh, did you handle things correctly? Are there things you look back and you wish you could have done differently or wish could have been different, um, or did you handle things the right way knowing what you know now? I would say it's power. It's the power of, like, they power up believing. So, um, my aunt used to like come and get me, um, take us to church and kind of, like, uh, give me away from the house, you know, kind of like, uh, basically give me a sense of freedom from what I was going through, uplift me, you know, how the cousins that are kind of like, do things with me to try to like make me feel, you know, a different way, but, um, I feel like it was just something I had to go through on my own. I feel like no one really understood, like, what I was really going through because kind of like when I say things, like, I would kind of get looked over in a way. So, I feel like, um, I grew up very mad, grow out of it. I definitely had conversations with my family and they apologized to me, you know, they let me know, like, you know, uh, they hear me, you know, saying, like, they see me, they hear me and they don't want me to ever like go into the stage of, you know, not having someone that's also because it can get very, you know, serious to where like, you know, they would have read those letters. It would have been different. I never let nobody read them because it was crazy. Like, I used to draw pictures of like, you know, me in, um, people's school, you know, saying like, and just basically, kind of like, just evil stuff on there. Like, I want people to die. I want me to die. I want everyone to die. Like, I didn't really care. So it's something I never really talk about with. And I'm growing. I'll adjusted them. Now, I want to break down some of these elements. Just mention, you mentioned an aunt, was this an aunt on your mother's side or father's side that your reference? Um, mother's not. And cousins as well. Was it both sides of the family here or one of the other that your references as well? Okay. And also, uh, God here, you mentioned God a few different times throughout this conversation. Now, curious here, do you follow religion at this point by any chance? Um, I'm not religious, but, um, I did grow up going basically to church. Um, not a lot, but, um, every chance I got with my grandmother or, you know, my aunt or, um, my mom, we'll just go to church. And was it a certain religion back then of church? Was it a Christian religion? Did it get any more specific than that under Christianity if so? Um, just Christian. And, uh, you're not religious at this point. Why aren't you religious? No judgment here. Just asking why? And, uh, just curious where you stand with that at this point. Um, like, don't give it wrong. Like, um, praise it up to the mosaic. Like Jesus Christ, you know, I'm all for God. I know where everything comes from. I know where everything circles around. It's God. You know, um, I just haven't, it wasn't instilled in me. Like, as, you know, some kids, some girls, where some people grow up and, um, there was like, you know, there was church babies, you know, like, oh, from ye high, they came up with, you know, oh, I know church. I know this. I know that. It wasn't like that for me. That's all I'm saying. So, um, I just basically get my own experience, you know. And also, grandmother here, you're referencing mother's side or father's side. Uh, my mother's side, my father's mom died when I was four. Got it. Now, as far as just those, uh, you know, suicide, suicidal thoughts, that's as far as it got for you growing up. You never attempted suicide back then. Um, have I the bullying days? I can't say what I have it, but, you know, I don't, it's like a blur. I got, I don't remember. I can't say I have it because I know I run that time. It was very, very deep for me. So I can't say I have it, but, um, I'm here. I am, you know, I'm good. So, just, and just a couple more questions about the bullying side of things. And, uh, we'll be done here with that subject matter. But, uh, was bullying something that you continued to face after high school was over or once high school was over, that was done. Um, when high school was over, nothing else. Um, my skin and clear it up. Um, you know, I moved to Houston, like, probably like two years later. And, um, I just never look back as far as that, um, it's kind of like me. I'm the person. I'm the person where it can be like a bad situation right now. But just because you start bad, or you start in a, you know, a bad position, you don't have to end it like that, you know. So I don't dwell on negativity. I don't dwell on like something that hurt me or something that's affected me. Like, um, so I'm very strong. So I can't everything. And this strength that you're describing here, is this something you've always had or was this something you grew into as you were growing up? Like, were you a strong kid from the get go as far as you can remember? Or that's something you picked up over time. Picked up over time, definitely, because, uh, I used to be very fragile, very sensitive. If you yell at me anything, like, I'm just very sensitive because my dad was like, you know, very verbal. So, um, you know, I used to, like, I used to be just very, like, yeah, very sensitive. And um, it's just doing with experience, you know, like, what they say, like, um, you know, never know unless you go through something. So just different experiences I go through in life, like I just kind of take it and roll with it. So now I'm good, you know, I'm not a face, everything. - And speaking of moving on in the future, and I do want to talk about that Houston move a little bit later on in this conversation, but has anyone that ever bullied you in the past, maybe in those school days, ever end up apologizing for their actions since those days? - I have, well, I had, not now, but like on Facebook, I had messages of some people, like with, you know, message me, inbox me, let me know like, oh girl, you know, remember we was in school, and so and so and so, like girls, I can't believe, you know, your pain is your, you know, celebrity, whatever. You know, I just wanna say, I always had love for you. I'm so sorry about everything in the past. - Oh. - And how would you handle those type of remarks? Because, you know, now that you're in the position, you could either respond, or you don't have to respond, how did you handle that? You know, everyone takes those type of, those remarks differently when they grow up. - I don't respond, 'cause they're like, you know, why should you fool me like, what are you here for? You know, I'm good, like, I mean, I'm glad you acknowledge your path, or I'm glad you acknowledge your fault, not my fault, but your fault. But I mean, we're good, as long as you, you know, you know that I'm in a good space, I'm happy, I'm great. I don't really worry about it, honestly. - And also asking this as well, you know, sometimes people that are bullies end up becoming a bully themselves later on in life. Did you ever end up becoming a bully yourself of some sort? - No, no, no, just because, like, once again, like, school, I used to do, like, different organizations. So one of the organizations I was in was a peer mediator. So I used to be a mediator. It's like younger kids, like, basically having them through bullying, having them through just any type of insights that they need as far as what I could help. Like me, I'm a nurturer, I'm a helper, I'm a burger, like I'm a people person of everyone that comes across, I leave nothing but a good relationship with everyone that comes across. And it's just not for me, not because of them, just because of my character and who I am. So I don't really, you know, having the regards on bullying anyone else, 'cause it's just not my character. - Three final bullying questions for you here. Okay, what do you want people watching or listening to this interview to know about bullying? Other than what you said thus far, if there's anything else on that topic there? - I will say, it is a major topic. And for anyone who's out there, you know, experiencing bullying or having a bully before, just know, you know, it gets better with time, happy, and God, and you know, find things that you love to do or you know, you love to just like, you know, it could be a favorite food, it could be anything like, you know, walking the park or anything that brings your joy, find that. And once you find that, continues to do that. And continues to pour into yourself. The day regardless of what they see you as, you know who you are. Don't never let no one take that from you. Always have self-love, self-care. And, you know, you can do anything in the world if you believe me or something. - And when it comes to these kids that were bullying you at the time, was it females that were doing this to you? Was it males as well? And what would you say that ratio was, if there was a circle chart of 100%, would you say it was 50, 50, or was a little bit more female to male that was bullying you at the time? - It was more like 80 to 20. 80% male, 20% women. - It was actually more males bullying you than females. - Yes, 'cause you know, like it's cool. Like, you know, you have to fly guys. You have the guys that already had fresh shoes every time. Like, you know, different things. Like they already had money, they already had like, and my dad wasn't like that. Like, my dad was different where we got to choose and to begin in the school here. And we got to choose Christmas. We got to choose our birthday. And we got to choose when we graduated. Like, it was not consistent. Like, consistent, consistency of like, I'm the flies person in school. Like, I didn't have that type of vibe, you know? Like, but that's what though. I was a major head in school. I did majoring for years. My dad was a major head dad. So he supported me through sports and everything. He was always active in the kingdom of school. So I don't take the right front dad, I love my dad. And that's my dog, like, that's my best friend. But as far as the guys, the same guys they used to bully me in school. Like, they messaged me. They complimented me. They want my number. They want to talk to me. They want to be with me, you know? And it would never be for them. But yeah, you know, it's just crazy. I like it's like a 360. You know, what goes around comes around. Like, I just acknowledge it. I see the DMs. I see the messages. And, you know, it's like, okay. I see it. - And just side stepping here before I ask you this last question about bullying. When it comes to social media, you mentioned like DMs, you mentioned Facebook, so on and so forth. Just in case there is some fraudulent profiles out there of you, some fake pages, some scammy, spammy pages. Care to share your official username, screen names, handles on your most prominently used social media platforms. Just so everyone in the audience is following the correct profiles here. - My correct profile is on the score legs. I see on the score go on Instagram. Google, legs to go. Facebook, legs to go. You gotta see my pictures on there. Or everything from childhood to older. Takes out life with like, life to legs to go. Those are my official pages. Anything else? It's a call. - And final question about bullying here. What do you want to say to someone watching or listening to this interview? That is currently a bully or bullying others. - So these are the ones that are bullying. - Yes, they're doing the bullying. What do you want to say to those? - I was saying, if you're bullying someone, you're just insecure. You just have to find yourself. You haven't found yourself yet. So you try to project on someone else and it's not gonna get anywhere. But the people from the outside can't see the insecurity in that person. And you just don't see them yourself yet. So I was saying, pick someone you're on with times, you know? Grow up, have some maturity. Have some substance about yourself. Find yourself. You don't have to pick on no one, you know? It's a bunch of things in this world that you can pick on. You know, the big on like someone that's like, 'cause you never know what people are going through. So I was saying, never judge a book prize covering just because that person has this going on or looks like this. You never know what they're going through. Like behind those doors. They probably just making it, you know? Just because they have to. Some people don't have no choice. So I feel like honestly, if a person can stop bullying someone, you probably gonna save a life. 'Cause it gets deeper than that. You probably bullying today. You never know, the person might be gone tomorrow. So just keep the world safe. - And in regards to your skin, you mentioned things have cleared up for you. To the point where you're not even wearing makeup during this interview. Why no makeup for you during this interview? There are some females that can't go on camera without makeup on. - That's a good question. Man, I went from a point where I wore makeup every day when I walked out the house. It's makeup, makeup, makeup, makeup. But I get tired of makeup. Like I like my skin to breathe. I'm not gonna lie. Even TV, like this season, I was in TV on a camera. I didn't have barely wore makeup. Like, I wore makeup when we had to. If I know we had like photo shoot day or a show or anything, like that's what I want to wear makeup. From day in, day out, I didn't have one wear makeup. And I love my skin. Like, my skin is beautiful. you know I just feel good I feel like I don't want it on my face like because I used to do it all the time and now it feels so good to just let it breathe and has there been a reaction to that have you been seeing comments and chatter and so on and so forth to people noticing this that you aren't so heavy on the makeup in this last season that you just mentioned here believe it or not people love love me when I'm making they they would rather me wear no makeup than makeup I get a lot of compliments like saying that they love my base they love like my skin and you know they love my life like so they love makeup I mean no makeup over makeup and just so everyone's on the same page and and wants to go check that particular season out is that season that you're on with barely any makeup on if at all uh care to share the season name or the season number and the show reality series that's so on and so forth um I don't know where uh Jocelyn's got brain season five in season six season five we're makeup all the time season six barely we're makeup and season six just uh it just ended the reunion just came on and so it's over and speaking of that reality show series what is the current status with that and you at this point will the audience see you in any future seasons um as far as future seasons take your time as far as um future seasons maybe with Zeus network you know not with the cabaret just because uh I just reached my limit and I like I wish my um point with that like I don't see myself continuing to um uh entertain something that's you've been a negative light on me got it anything uh you want to expound on that um well we're still just like um certain storylines that I just don't agree with you know like with me I don't want to say I'm cliche but it's always like the the thing like all my life I had to fight because some were like um growing up I got bullied that was going through things in a home my dad then it's like you know um me being you know exited dancer you know it's not an answer I had strip club fights I had you know girls of course hating on me there and it's like I get on TV and getting hated on the game you know um like storylines like you know girls um it's just you know a bunch of crazy crazy stuff but um I just don't see myself yeah entertainment negativity now is there anything you want to clear up that wasn't displayed on that show no um no I think like everything's good uh I do um I am happy that I am a fan favorite and then I'm glad that while I was sent home season five my season was short uh you know I got cut what season six I came back it was my redemption year I finished everything I did exactly what I said what I'm gonna do and now I'm a fan favorite I've been in February last season but this season like the world knows that my character they knows my character they know they're gonna get you know a good person they love me and um like girls always tell me like you know they get shy around me they're like oh my god like you know you inspire me you make a way for me and you know other girls like you know I love you like I love watching and I just embrace it and take it all in this home and he regrets with the show no no regrets I feel like everything happens for me and what's for me is for me what's not for me it'll be taken away and when it comes to those fights that are displayed on that show are those fights real I'm very real like real really it's uh real is an animal in a wild real like it's very real nothing's made up um as far as what I know from my shoves you know nothing's made up um if you have a black eye you just have a black eye if you have your nose bleed your nose bleeding like if it wasn't real I don't think blood would be shed I don't think bruises would be on people faces I don't think people would actually you know I'll be so drained and going through a lie you know I'm saying like everybody will be happy if it wasn't real trust me it'll be easy simple we'll be around here jumping for joy you know it's very real like whatever people go through the fights and everything happens like everything's right I get that question artisan is it real and aside from it just being real I mean do you think uh some of these cast members are turning up because there are cameras on them or do you think this is how they would handle business on a normal day if a physical altercation came up and that sort of thing I think it would be people would handle business on a normal day but like five percent I was saying from girls probably want to be their family so they want to do a little extra today because oh it'll get them more cameras on or oh let's show out for the camera like some girls are like that won't say it's not like that some girls are like that but 95 percent of the show is really an outside of reality television where can those in the audience find you at at this point doing if not reality TV being an artist I was an artist before I was on TV um I joined TV to of course get the exposure and get engagement from you know new people meet people across the world uh get a different light you know I'm saying um myself that I haven't received before um like and I'm gonna say it's helped it it has helped me a lot like people love my music like even when people are hitting on me I'm on TV it just goes to show like people still ride with me to ride for me people still believe in me and that's all it matters and on the music side of things what can those in the audience look forward to you in 2026 excuse me um my new single runny just yeah dropped um this number it's out I just shot the official video yesterday it will be out a step okay I need everyone to do that I'm starting to trim I need everyone to do their go runny dance it's gonna be all across the world like I just want to have fun I just want to make America fun again that's all like we're just so strict and nowadays I see why a lot of people are joining these dance trends and they're constantly like you know uh vibing when they're out of the club doing their dances with their friends making TikToks other because with all the things that we're going through in the world like serious things like we want to find the fun where's the fun in it you know you want to do something you have fun with and I feel that the running dance will be fun so I need everyone across the world to do it to join it it's fun it's engaging um it's a classic you know originally from I from place club I got the real deal in my video runny the official runny runny from place club crystal Wilson she is starting in my music video and the name of the song is come running so why not have the real deal you know so that's gonna be dope I have new music coming new singles coming um I'm with DJ Smalls you know I have a lot going on and I have more stuff and how were you able to pull that off, having her in the official music video. Everyone is asking me that. That's a good question. So basically, I reached out to her back in December when I dropped the song. And I knew I needed to shoot a video. But something was just telling me, it just should look like a visual right now. So I shot a visual for the right here. Take your time. I shot a visual for the video. And something told me, it won't be right if I don't get the running in the video. The running in the video will put the ice on the sauce. You know, what would it say? With the sauce on the sea. Let's see. It's hopping on the ice, you know? Whatever. It's one of those. But rock with me, OK? But it's more like you can't have a saying or you can't have a slogan, what out the real deal. You've got to have the cream to the cream. You have to have like the main actual topic. You know, and like in my song, I said, I'm going to head bitch like Ronnie. Ain't shit funny. I got a game for sale. And why not start the real deal? So Ronnie came through. I reached out to her, like, several times. She didn't see it because we weren't-- she wasn't following me. So she said that, believe it or not, my fans were reaching out to her on comments. And my fans don't play about me. There was a very consistent about me. So she said that she was able to see certain comments that tacked my name and said that she needed to listen to this song called Ronnie. And she said she had no idea about it. She didn't know anything about it. Never heard of it. And she said she wanted to just see what everyone was talking about. So she searched me up. She searched my name on Instagram. And this is the story she told me yesterday. And she found me. She found the song. She listened to it. She learned people from her family or people who listened to it. And they all gave her nothing but good feedback. Everyone gave her a good feedback. And she said she loved the song. So she responded back to me in the DM, like, similar to her number and information. We were talking in December, but I told her that we're going to shoot the video on January 16. And she agreed to do it. And I was like, OK, I was like, you know what? I'm going to still like show you some love and, you know, pay for your time for you even, like, because they're going to do it. She told me specifically yesterday, don't worry about nothing. She was like, I love your drive. I love your character. I love you as like how you are. And she said, I'm loving how your energy proceeds on people. Like, everyone around you is gravitating towards you and engaging with you on a positive level. And she was like, totally, and she's like, I don't knock anyone from trying. And she's like, I can see you, you know, it's a young female. You're trying. And it goes a long way just for a hand. So she said, don't pay me nothing. I just want to be here and help you. And I said, well, what that means is that let's rock out. So we shot a movie yesterday. And how much time did you actually get a chance to spend with her? She told me she was going to be around me. Well, this is back in December. Well, now, OK, so when she told me that, it was yesterday. But when we initially talked, it was in December. And she told me that she was going to just have like one or two hours free, because she's a busy woman. She has a lot going on. So I said, OK, you know, one hour or two, that's fine with me. I'm doing it, you know, just be grateful for everything. Long story short, the energy was unmatched. She stayed with me from one car all the way to Edaclack. And she in and of she loved, she had a great time. So I checked on her, you know, I called her, like just a check on her. And she said she told everyone about it, the experience. And she said she loved it. And she can't wait to let us do more of it. Well, OK, believe it or not, I've seen on a video today. That she had on her page where she acknowledged me. She, she tagged me on the mention. And she said that she was so grateful for the energy that I gave her. And that I validated her for basically, she had doubts basically being at, saying that the world forgot about her. For the world, you know, didn't acknowledge her. The world made her feel like she was closed in. They gave her a very chance in life in, I mean, in her acting career. And that she was very skeptical of doing things that would expose her or bring her out more, you know. She's basically like kind of been in hiding for a long time. And so she said that basically the energy that I showed her and that everyone at the video shoot kind of gave her. She said she was very humbled to see that, like, you know, basically I gave her validation that she was basically who she is. Who she, well, I don't want to say who she is, but she is that girl. She is that, you know, the lady that started to trend, started to mark. And I do feel like a lot of women don't give her that credit. Like in something was just telling me like, I want to do a song after running. Just because no shade to anyone else in the movie, they got their chains, they got their marks, they got their highlight moments. I felt that she played that part to the tee in place closed. And she deserved a fair chance to, you know, get out there and get back around. It's time. And I told her that I said, I just want to, you know, enjoy yourself, be comfortable. You know, she didn't have to worry about nothing, I pay for everything myself. Make sure she was comfortable, make sure everything was in line. Make up hair, style, clothes, like everything she needed, I make sure she had everything. She had to worry about nothing. And just for me, have like, give her that experience. She's like, she's forever like, you know, grateful. And she's forever like, you know, I'm just going to reciprocate the energy with me. Now based on your time with her, whether it was those six or seven hours with her on set, with you trying to communicate with her, you know, up into that point, going to ask you this next question. And if it's too little of a amount of time to answer this question that you spent with her, then that's okay. We'll move on to the next question. But still want to ask just in case you have an answer for this question. And that is, what's the best advice you receive from her? Or most important thing you learned being around her so far? Is there something you took away from just being in her aura, so on and so forth? She gave me a lot of like, since the encouragement, she gave me a lot of motivation. We had a conversation because I wrote with her to the video shoot, and she was best of just, no, trying to get to know me personally, and basically, I got to know her. Like, I didn't know that she lived in Atlanta. I didn't know that she was from Atlanta, you know? I didn't know that, basically, what she told me. Okay, I didn't know how she felt. I feel like it was very important to hear her opinion or her insight on how she felt as a woman, and how she felt, basically, everyone closing their door on her, making her feel like she's not important, she's not honored, and I kind of got the insight, basically, of closing personal with her, and she basically told me that, you know, she still had faith, and you know, she still was pushing, she still believed in herself, and she said, everyone that she comes across, she's very selective with those people, and those people celebrated her, the people that she came across close to her, but she never had no one make a song about her, never had no one, you know, bring her to a video shoot, you know, she said she was very skeptical of the things, but she basically told me that she admired my drive, she said that she used to be me, you know, coming up, she said, you have to just keep going, keep pushing, she told me, don't give up, she said that, you know, you have a gift, you have a, you have a direction, you're going in, and she told me that, she just wanted to be a part of that, she wants to support me, 100%. And I was just basically, I was an I was really like, kind of, I was listening so hard, but I was like, am I really an incredible man? Like, well, Miss Crystal, I was just like, so surprised, you know? But I basically just, except to everything she said, you know, I was just so happy about the moment that I just basically gravitated to everything. I engaged, you know, her, I made sure she was good. Again, I was just living it up, you know? And what's been the response? Obviously, the music video has not out yet as of this interview, but the behind-the-scenes footage of you and her hanging out together and so on and so forth is on your social media like Instagram, for example. What's been the response from those seeing you two together? Crazy, my page is torn by her right now. The makeup artist, he did our makeup, thanks for okay. He posted her, right before he posted her during the makeup, he did my makeup too, right behind her. And I was like, we was right together, but he asked that we want to do it together, like do a video together. And we both saw him like, well, she was based away on me and I said, well, you know what? I want to kind of wait because I want to get them to surprise. But by him posting her on his own for the makeup, the vocal numbers, he got too many views, like yesterday, like easy. And I'm like, wow, like, his page is on fire right now. So I didn't say, you know what, since everyone's seeing her makeup, everyone's seeing her hair, her hairstyle gave her her makeup gave like how she was in place good. So I said, you know what, let me go ahead and post a video. I posted a video with me in her when we got our makeup done. And I said the cats out the bag, surprised. My face has been going viral. It's almost like a me right now. It's like 800,000 views on Instagram. Facebook is like, almost half of me. And what have those comments been like? Do people think you two are related, like your mother daughter, sister, sister? They're like, oh, they can't tell me they're not mother daughter. They can't tell me they're not sisters, sister, like they said that y'all actually look like unbelievable. It's crazy. So they're calling me like they said, I see some comments that said, OG running and YG running. I think like some comments that's that like if they do a plans club too, then I should play her daughter or I should play a remake of her. Now people are just saying that, but would you be open to something of that nature? If an opportunity of that nature popped up? Absolutely. I would, you know, I'm an actress as well. So I have two movies on my belt and I feel that plans club, that's a classy. So they came out with, that's like coming out with another Friday. Who wouldn't, who wouldn't do the role, like I wouldn't turn it down for nothing. So if I was best to, you know, be granted that, I'm going to take it. And for those in the audience that are unfamiliar with the titles that you're currently in, that they can watch, what are those titles and share that information as well? The first movie is, she gets it from her mom, that's going to come out. The second movie, I was just like an actress, but I mean, really this is the first movie, it's the first one that I'm, I was just an actress. But that extra role brought me to the main character in my new movie that's coming out. But the first movie is, what do you think, because it's been like a year to, I'm sorry, I'm sorry y'all, forgive me, forgive me, that. And you got some help there with that answer from someone off camera to the side of you. Can't I share who that is, my manager, paradise promotions. And when it comes to these two movies, are they related in the, in the sense of, it's the same director for both, because you mentioned your extra, you being an extra and one led to you being a lead actress and another. So are the two related like same director, or this is a whole nother director for a whole different movie. Same director, Michael Sterling, that's who he's a great director. He basically gave me, well, I was an extra role in the first movie, forgive me, forgive me not. And then he called back and said, you did such a great job. I would love to have you as the main character in this movie. And also something interesting that you also posted showcasing your Memphis roots is a photo of Ronnie with cakes to boo on your social media. Yes. That came from, I got there from DJ Paul's page, honestly, but I think he, I think he posted, no, I don't know, did I get it from him? I probably didn't get it from him, I probably got it from Google when I was thinking. Because I probably, like, I'm a big fan of Gansapoo, you know, rest of me is the heart. I wish she could have heard this song before, you know, she passed, but I'm pretty sure like a lot of people in her campus heard it, but I love Gansapoo, La Chat, you know, Project Pan, DJ Paul, 36 Mafia, I came up on a lot of, you know, artists in Memphis. When it comes to the, this whole, all these people you just mentioned, did you know them personally by any chance? Have you established relationships with any of them personally speaking or just from afar? You were, you know, a fan of their music or listen to their music, so on and so forth. I've just been a fan of their music, like, because my dad used to play their music when I was like three, four years old in the back of the, you know, the Chevy. I used to be in a car seat, just rocking back to back, right to back, like, it's just always been in my nature and my culture, so I just always been a fan of their music. But never got a chance to meet Gansapoo before she passed or anything of that nature? Yeah, no, just curious there. Just for those in the audience here, getting to know you for the very first time, care to share where you were born. I was born in Memphis, Tennessee. I've been here to stay in for like 10 years. And care to share where you were raised as well. Was it Memphis or Houston? Memphis. And you make a move in your life at some point to move to Houston. What was the reason for that back then? I just wanted, I always said I wanted to move out of town, so I moved here with my eggs, basically, yeah, you tell me like, if you want to, you know, go, just, just come, just come, so I came. And you were caught with age that wasn't your life when you made that move. And care to share your age currently at this point. Dirty. And your birthday while you're at it, the month and the day, just in case there's some misinformation online about you. Just birthday September 7th, right now. Now you had no problem sharing your age here on camera. There are some reality TV personalities, recording artists, actresses, so on and so forth. That might not. Why no problem here sharing your age. I'm so young, you're lit, like, I'm not old, so I don't have no shades of elderly or anyone, anyone who's matured, I'm not going to say old, so yeah, forgive me, not old, matured, you know, I'm going to share age, but I've voted, you know, I'm still young, young and lit. And also when it comes to Memphis, was it a certain portion of Memphis you were raised in that you claim here? I know sometimes people will say, I was raised on this side of town, or I was raised in this hood, or this projector, this block number, you know, sometimes people get very specific. Does it get any more specific for you when it comes to Memphis? I'm from the East Memphis, and in Memphis it is specifically like where are you from, what are you from? Like you said, so we don't claim West Memphis, that's Arkansas. Anything over the bridge, we don't claim it. And okay, that brings us to Houston and my question that I really wanted to ask you here, which is this. Now, circumstances could be different for everyone, but can you give the audience five tips for anyone moving to H-town? >> Happy And It's Already. And, and, no, are you going to have some direction? Have your money together. You don't want to be out here, broke. H-town, one thing about it. They got some garish ones out there, so you're gonna eat good, but you just need some money. But I love eating out there, they're gonna love the food, they're foody first and they're gonna love me. They have nice apartment out there, nice houses, nice neighborhoods, the people. They're nice sometimes, but just find your way and know where you're going. If you already have a job, good, you know, just have fun. Like, he used to have a lot of club spots. I consider he's gonna be like a Miami without the water. So they're gonna have fun, whoever moves here is gonna have fun. I'll tell you about it soon. And speaking of the club scene in Houston, I think there's a phrase if I'm butchering it. I apologize, you can fix me or those in the audience can fix me in the comments. But is it something like never leave on a Sunday or something of that nature? Yeah, it's never leave on a Sunday, everybody knows when you're in Houston. I even had to learn that. When I first went to Houston, around the years, I tried to leave on a Sunday, and I was looking crazy when everybody was still at the club on Sunday. So, in Memphis, our Sundays were kind of slow. We didn't really have no club nights or nothing like that. You know, if they did, I was so young to even experience it. But never leave on a Sunday is the exact slow game. Everybody follows that slow game. Everybody follows that rule. Everybody knows, like tourists, anybody don't leave on a Sunday. Leave on a Sunday. You just might miss everything. But it's like Sunday is a second Saturday. So it really does go down. As far as entertainment, so on and so forth on a Sunday. On a Sunday. In Houston, that's not just a saying. But as far as restaurants, I want to dive a little bit deeper with that. Or food spots here. Is there a favorite food destination for you? In Houston? Yes, Stanford 8. They have a, I think I go to Stanford 8. Like, every time it's my birthday. Well, not this year. I mean, not last year, but usually I'm always at Stanford 8. I love it. I love the food. I love the scenery. I love the vibes. You know what? When I grow up, I want to be at Stanford 8. That's how much I love Stanford 8. And when it comes to this establishment, is there only one location of it or their multiple locations? There's a preferred location for you. Well, in Houston, we only have one. It's gonna go all the way in. And what do you order? And how do you order it whenever you're in that establishment? Of your favorite dish? It's different. Like, sometimes I order salmon if I want to do seafood. And sometimes I order ribeye, if I want to do steak. Sometimes I order lamb chops, falling lamb. So. But, with the sides, order of mashed potatoes, the corn-cuffin-lay, the seizure salad with the poached egg. Maybe I didn't even know. You could put a poached egg on the salad into the steak, but they did it. I'm just a bad girl at heart. I'm sorry. I love steak for me. But what girls and what they have, it's good. Everything is good. And how do you actually order yours? Whether it's the salmon, the steak, or the other meat. Was it lamb chops that you said or was it something else? You ordered a salad first. Like, yeah, the appetizer. And then it comes out with bread. So you get to bread to bread and butter. And then you just, you know, eat that first. And then you order your meat. And then you order your sauce. And then they bring, like, the sides you have to share the sides. So once they bring the sides, they don't bring everything together on the platter. Put it down. And it's on the face. But how do you like some of these items cooked, though? Like the salmon or the ribeye? Like, do you like, uh, uh, well, well done? So I don't even, well, I'm a medium-well girl. Make my shit, medium-well, okay? If you want to give me a steak, medium-well. You want to give me a salmon? Medium-well. You know, if you think I look good, well done. Not medium-well, because I always look good. I got you right there. Just curious there. And I also want to ask you this, uh, a musical question here, okay? But also has something to do with your past that I'm curious if you have a, uh, Mount Rushmore for, okay? Pulling these questions up here. All right. Here they are. Okay. Let me know when you're ready. If there was a Mount Rushmore of four female recording artists that had an exotic dancing background, which four people would you pick, and why? Which artist this artwork that has, uh, you saying like, they already have an exotic dancer? Yeah, they were maybe an exotic dancer at one point in their, their life. Maybe they worked at an exotic dancing establishment at one point in their life. First, Cardi B, Trina. I'm, I'm trying to go from what I know. Take your time here. Two out of four. Two more if you got two more. I don't know, because like, I don't really see that much, like, you know, um, it wasn't, it wasn't celebrated back then. So I don't really know, like, if our artist, per se, like outside of those two, has a exotic background. Okay, well, we'll just take those two for now, but why each of these two for you? Just because they're, they're both successful, like they made it past that. They, they, I grew that stage, um, like, of course, they probably had a lot of backlash back then. But you know, they're good, like, you know, they're doing good. And just curious here, do you know any of these two personally by any chance, either Cardi B or Trina? I know, not a person. And if either of them are watching or listening to this interview, is there anything you'd want to say to them? I'm on my way here. Does he miss him? you

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The interviewee, an African-American from Memphis, Tennessee, grew up facing bullying due to sensitive skin and was deeply affected, leading to emotional struggles and written despair, though he never attempted suicide.
  2. He attended high school where Spanish was a required foreign language class, which he took seriously, but ultimately did not pursue college due to financial aid denial and a strong desire to attend Jackson State University as a J-set major.
  3. The interviewee overcame adversity with resilience, spiritual support from teachers and family, and personal growth, emphasizing self-love, faith, and the importance of finding joy and strength through experience, while rejecting negative influences from bullies who later reached out with apologies.

Summary:

The interviewee, an African-American from East Memphis, shares a deeply personal journey shaped by early-life challenges, including intense bullying at school due to his sensitive skin, which led to emotional distress and the creation of self-harming notes. Despite being in a supportive environment with caring teachers and family, he struggled with financial barriers to higher education, ultimately choosing to stop attending college after being denied financial aid, a decision he later reflects on with regret. He credits resilience, faith, and personal growth—fueled by a third-grade teacher’s affirmation of his “blessing” and support from family and church—as key to overcoming trauma.

He describes a shift in identity, now embracing his skin and rejecting heavy makeup, and shares how social media has become a space for self-expression and connection. A major highlight is his collaboration with artist Crystal Wilson, whose experience of being overlooked inspired her to support his music, particularly the new single “Runny,” which he promotes as a joyful, inclusive dance trend. The interview also touches on Houston as a new chapter in life, with advice for newcomers to embrace the city’s vibrant culture, food scene—especially Stanford 8—and the local tradition of never leaving on a Sunday.

Reflecting on his journey, he emphasizes the importance of self-love, forgiveness, and the idea that bullying is a temporary phase, urging others to find joy and strength in themselves. He also shares a unique perspective on female artists with exotic dance backgrounds, naming Cardi B and Trina as influential figures, not due to personal connections but because of their resilience and success in overcoming stigma. The story is one of survival, transformation, and a deep personal commitment to uplifting others through authenticity and positivity.

FAQs

I speak English and a little Spanish. I learned Spanish in high school as a required class, and my housekeeper also helps me practice the language.

No, I did not go to college. I applied to college but was denied financial aid, which led me to stop pursuing higher education.

I was bullied in high school, mainly due to my skin and sensitive appearance. It was mostly verbal and aggressive, though not physical. I struggled with depression and wrote dark notes, but I found strength through faith and support from teachers and family.

I coped by writing in a notebook, praying, and relying on faith. Teachers noticed my growth and encouraged me. My aunt and cousins also provided emotional support, helping me build resilience.

Yes, some have messaged me on Facebook expressing regret and saying they were sorry for their past actions. I don’t respond because I’m not affected by their words and focus on my current well-being.

Bullying is temporary and you will get through it. Find joy in activities that bring you happiness, practice self-love and self-care, and always believe in your worth regardless of what others think.

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