91: Let's Get Personal ft. Rhett & Link | Ear Biscuits Ep. 91

(upbeat music) - Welcome to Ear Biscuits I'm Link. - And I'm Rhett. - This week at the Round Table of Dem lighting, we have a very, very, very special episode. - Is an episode that we thought you would never hear or more specifically see? - Right. - It is the lost episode of Ear Biscuits. It actually was intended to be the first episode of season three of Ear Biscuits. But we had some technical difficulties because we're doing this video thing for the first time. - It's important for us to set things off on the right track. - Exactly, from the beginning. - We didn't want a compromised episode to be the first episode of the video version of Ear Biscuits. Ear Biscuits is back. You gotta make a big deal of it. - So we shelved it. - But it was a good conversation. - Yeah, it was the very first one. There was a certain energy to the unknown of feeling our way through bringing the Round Table into the video format. I mean, we ended up bearing our souls or other body parts. Not physically. - It gets very personal. - But it gets very personal. And then from there we talked about, I talked about some personal stuff that is happening in my family's life that ultimately, having made the decision for us to talk about it, it was we wanted you to be able to hear it and experience it and share it with us. - And we wanted to put this little intro on the beginning. I mean, obviously there were no technical difficulties on the audio side, but we wanted to put this on both the video and the audio version because we repeatedly refer to this episode being the first episode of Ear Biscuits. And you would be very, very confused if we didn't just put this little intro on. Or any new to what's about to happen. - So you'll just see the wide shot with one minor exception, but other than that, it should feel like a normal Ear Biscuit experience. - Yes, don't be alarmed, just accept it. - With no. - Open your ears. - Close-up shots of us. If that's your thing, this isn't gonna be the one you wanna watch. - Well, you can maybe do your own zooms and crops. - Oh, okay. - That can be done. - Feel free to do your own zooms and crops. - I don't think it's worth it. Just listen and enjoy. This lost episode of Ear Biscuits. - It's found, here it is. (upbeat music) - You already know how often we touch our hair. I mean, on good Mythical Morning, but now it's gonna, I'm just really resisting the urge to touch my hair. - Currently? - Yeah, well, I mean, I'm constantly. - I wanna touch it all the time. - Yeah. You constantly wanna touch it. The hair. - Yeah. - Your hair. A lot has happened since the end of season two of Ear Biscuits, and one of those things that has happened is a lot of people have asked, when does Ear Biscuits coming back? And we've been like, not anytime soon. That was sort of the standard line. - Yeah. - 'Cause we've been doing a lot of other things. Of course, Good Mythical Morning, going strong as always. Been working on our book. We did Buddy System this year, last year. And, but we still, there wasn't a place. - Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what it is that made us want to do it. And I think it's, we still find ourselves having conversations between the two of us that no one else hears. And I think in the back of our minds, we are just thinking, why am I just talking to this guy? - Yeah. - I mean, we should probably monetize this. (laughing) - That is the thinking. - All right, well, no, we should probably share this. - Yeah, yeah, that's it. - That's probably shared this. - That's a probably more palatable way to put it. - And we save stuff to talk about on Good Mythical More, but we still end up talking. We spend so much time together. And every time we just talk to each other, it's, is it pointless? - No, it seems like you're questioning the foundations of our friendship now. I mean, are you saying that our friendship has become, seems like you're baiting me. - It's so outwardly focused that it is no longer free. It's no longer for us, and now it's just for the mythical beasts. - Well, I don't think that's the case. - Then why do you wanna do this? - To monetize it. (laughing) - No, no. So, it, well, you know. - I'm a sit on my foot. - Do whatever you want. You don't have to justify - And I'm gonna take actions. - What are halfway off? - You're gonna have to get to a place where you can just do the physical things without openly acknowledging that. Like you thinking about your hair. - I'm touching it. - I'm helping you, you help me. - Leave it up. - No, but the, I think the reason we wanna do this is because podcasting, I mean, really, when you talk about the things that we've done that are the, you know, the favorite of the things that we have done, we enjoy a lot of different things for a lot of different reasons, but the times that we've had at this round table of done lighting, it's a totally different thing. It's different than GMM. I mean, we're not gonna put any weird stuff on our head or eat something that makes us vomit, play a weird game. That's not what this is about. And of course, it's not some, something that's been planned for months on end that is meticulously presented in the way that we want it to be presented like buddy system. - Okay, yeah. So this is-- - Or the book, but this scratch is a niche of this is something-- - It's just a totally different thing. - Well, it's totally unplanned. I think we've demonstrated we don't have a clue what we know we're gonna talk about. - We haven't even talked about what today's show was going to be about. - Yeah, we've just, in so far-- - It is becoming that right now. - So far, it's just been us talking about doing it. - Let's just keep this-- - How long can we-- - How long can we stretch that out? - This is two meta. - We don't need to stretch anything out. - You may appreciate this conversation if you already are a fan of your biscuits, but over six minutes in at this point, if this is your first year biscuit, you're like, is this what, is your biscuits just a podcast about a podcast? No, it's not. We're just kind of getting back in the swing of thing. - Oh, you know, we get-- - We're all loose. - We get in loose, man. - I might take my jacket off. - Take your jacket off. - I don't want to, 'cause it's such a plain t-shirt. - Stick it off. - It's take a shoulder off. - But then put it back, that's what I did. I mean, I've gone through so many iterations already. - All right, there's a shoulder. I got a V-neck. I recently heard, okay, I wear a lot of V-necks. I'll just be honest with you. And I wear a lot of plain V-necks. Link's kind of the funky t-shirt guy, and I'm the plain t-shirt guy. I might wear some patterns of colors that shouldn't go together on like a collared shirt. That's kind of what I do. - Oh yeah. - But I'm not really a graphic t-kind of guy. You've sort of got that on lockdown. But I have a lot-- - You feel like you can't purchase a t-shirt. - No, no, no, no, no, of course. - Of course, no me? - No. I mean, I just, I don't like it when a t-shirt says too many things, too, too much. I don't want, I don't want to keep people guessing like a ninja. - Okay. - So, but I wear a V-neck, and I wore one to a party recently, and a friend of mine, who is sort of equally a friend of my wife, as well. We were, he was talking to, and he's a very fashionable person. You also know this person, but I'm not gonna disclose his name right now. - Can I guess? - No, you can't guess. We're not gonna play a game. We don't play games. - We don't play games. - Was I at the party? - No. - You were not at this one. - Okay. - That's fine. - You weren't invited. I didn't tell you. Actually, you were and you left early. - I was there earlier. - Yeah, and he began to talk to my wife. - And Sanchez's party. - About my shirt. - It's called Sanchez. - And he, Sanchez was like, you know, V-necks. He's very direct. He has good relationship with my wife. He's like, you know, he really shouldn't, you know, V-necks are like five years ago. - It's out. - Five years? - Five years ago, like a half decade. - Yeah. - Yeah. - How did I miss a half decade? - Well, V-necks are not working. - Well, look at, well, Casey, how long have you had that V-neck? - Five months. - Really? - Yeah, I mean. - Well, I'm constantly, I mean, first of all. - I never want a V-neck because I knew they were going out. - No, the reason that you don't wear V-necks is because you, you've told me this. I'm not making anything up that you haven't told me. You told me you don't wear V-necks because of the patch of hair that pucks up. - Too much hair. - And I don't have a whole lot. You know, I got to go a little bit lower than a deep V to get there. But I just can't believe that something that is as subtle as the shape of the collar is something that can go out of style. So I refute Sanchez. I don't believe that V-necks are out of style. I don't think that they can, they actually can go out of style. I'm going to keep wearing them. Unless, you know, the people in the comments on one of the platforms where Ear Biscuits is enjoyed, prove me wrong. I am all, yeah. - So you're inviting you, Red is inviting you to let him know if V-necks are out. And don't just take his side because you like him. Be honest, I think this is a moment, an opportunity where you can help the guy. I mean Sanchez was, took a risk and read through it in his face. - I don't need to say that. - Later on a podcast that he's not listening to. - Yeah, I don't need to say to him at the time. - I need to, well, did you get defensive? - I had walked out of the room. He, he, he said it to her and you weren't even there. - It was one of those things like when you got a break up with a girl and you tell her friend. - Oh. - Yeah, he's, you got to tell a man he's, his V-necks out of style, you tell his wife. - Oh gosh. - You go through the wife. - Five years ago. And how fashionable is Sanchez? Cause I still don't know you're talking about him. - He's, he's pretty fashionable. I mean, I've, taking some cues from them. - Does he wear like the big round collars? - No, no, no, he's not Super Neck. - Super Neck? - He doesn't wear Super Necks. - Is that what they call? - I just made that up. He's fashionable though. I respect his fashion choices. But you know what, you're getting old brother. That's what it is man. - Well that is something that I was thinking. - You wear it proudly. You're old and I'm right behind you. - Okay. - I think that's what you've missed. I mean if that's what this podcast is about, like we have aged. - There's only certain things we can talk to you about and one of those is just that we're getting old. - Well let me, let's be more specific about that. Of course we're getting older. Everyone is getting older right now. - Except anyone who's beating the aging process. - I'm glad you said that. - But because that makes me feel better. - And we're not getting any older faster than anyone else's technically. However, I do feel, and I don't know how long it's been. It's been over a year since the end of season two of Ear Biscuits. Well over a year. - Yeah. - And I feel like in my life and in my body, more than a year has passed. That's how I feel. And I think about life stage when I think about like because we're working too hard. - No. I'm just saying when I think about the things that have happened, when I think about the fact that both of us independently have scheduled trips to see a proctologist. - We gonna talk about that within a week of one another. That's a sign that something has changed in the anus. - Particularly yes, specifically. - Like when you get older you get hemorrhoids. Young people can get hemorrhoids. - Also now you're gonna tell them why we went. - Yeah. - For hemorrhoids. I mean, I've had the condition. I'm not gonna say that H word anymore. I'm just gonna say the condition. - So we're, I mean, it's official. We're talking about hemorrhoids now. - But the condition. - You didn't wanna talk about them in general. Or specifically as it relates to us. - I'll talk about the experience. I'll talk about going to a proctologist. - Okay, do that. - By the way, they're called, I'll listen. They're called colorectal surgeons now. - Which is scary right for the beginning. - Right, it's like, I'm, when I was in the, yeah, surgery. - When I was in the waiting room. - On my, on my butt hole. - And I saw the certificate of the doctor and it said colorectal surgery. I was like, whoa, I didn't sign up for that. I don't need rectal surgery. That's not what I'm here for. I just got a little discomfort. - Well, the guy that I went to, 'cause I went to a different guy. 'Cause I just didn't, I didn't want to, I just didn't, I didn't, I felt like that would be too intimate between the two of us. If I went to the same guy that, if he did that to you and then he did it to me. What if we showed up at the same time? What if he put us in the same room? - It's like, sure. - That's where friends, it's like going on a date with the same girl within a week of each other. - It's a sloppy second situation. - It's like, it's like, except it's a reverse because he's sticking his finger in our butt. - Oh gosh. - Well, it's like, - I'm just being honest, that's what happens. When you go to a proctologist, that's what happens. It's just what happens. - That is what happened. - Standard fare. - Well, I went in. - We're talking about this though. - Just letting it register. - Okay, here it is. I'm not gonna let it register that way. - Yeah, you're talking about it. - Well, this goes back, man. I mean, this is not like within the last year, I'm my aging is accelerating in like the anal region. - Exactly. - Well, let me explain. - It's not the condition that has, is a sign of aging. It's the willingness to see someone about it. That is a result of aging. Because hemorrhoids are very common. Like, I do a lot of Google searches for medical conditions. 'Cause I have a little bit of a hyperchondriac. I haven't really disclosed that before, but I have now. And so if I see something. - Kind of a hypochondriac. - Well, I think that's someone who doesn't worry. - That's me. - I don't know, is it a hyperchondriac or hypochondriac? Because we gotta be right about this. - We gotta be right. - Because I am that. Link you're right, it's hypochondriac. A person who is-- - You're not proving me right. - Abnormally anxious about their health. - Yes. - As opposed to a hyperchondriac. Someone who is-- - Search that. - Really fast. - And let's see enough to confirm about that. - And concerned about their health. Hyperchondriac is a common mispronunciation. - It's someone-- - Mispronunciation. - Someone who, when they believe they have something, they search it really fast. - Uh oh. A hypochondriac is one of the things there is nothing wrong with them, despite medical evidence that they got symptoms of a disease. - Are you kidding me? - So that's what I am. - So I was exactly wrong. They're both words. No, maybe that's the urban-- Is that the urban dictionary? - But hypochondriac.org. - Oh, this is fake news, guys. - Let's go back. - Let's go back. - But let me finish the point. I'm a hypochondriac just like my mom, just like my brother. My dad does not have this gene. - He's a hyperchondriac. - We worry about ourselves and when we see things, and when I, you can Google a condition, and because so many people, Google conditions, Google has figured out that it would be most beneficial and efficient if they put up the nature of the problem and how common it is, so you don't have to go into WebMD or the like in order to just make yourself silly. So when you look up hemorrhoids, which incidentally-- - Say the condition. - Impossible to spell without spell correction. Without, you know, there's no-- - There's no-- - There's no-- - No, I can spell it now 'cause that makes me-- - More age-been corrected so many times. But no person, I believe this strongly, no person has ever just correctly spelled the condition. And of course I'm talking about hemorrhoids when I say the condition for the last time, when just on a whim, just tried to spell it. But it's very common. So I think up to like 30 to 40% of the population will report having the condition in their lifetime. - Well, if that many people report it, how many people don't report it? - 70 to 80. - Right, so then 100% of people have-- - We've all got hemorrhoids from time to time. - With condition. - Sorry. - The condition. - I remember when mine popped up, or literally popped out. I mean, it was-- - Oh, come on. You don't-- - We were in New York City at the Jell Conference, and I don't live in New York. And when I visit, there's this expectation, and the whole city set up so that you walk around everywhere. And we were supposed to write and perform a song at the same time on stage at a conference called the Jell Conference. - I remember this. - And I was really, I was anxious about that. And I think, and I, you know, my sphincter gets-- - I'm kind of getting anxious. - I just like-- - Can you use code words? - My condition place. - Yeah, there we go. - It gets tight. That's where I hope some people hold the stress in their shoulders. - Let me just butt in as I get. - And say dead. - Okay. - Again. - This is the first one. - This is the death now. - This is season three. - Episode one, we've decided to film it. And we're talking about the condition. I just, I wanna-- - They're probably thinking, are they gonna show the condition spot? - I want, no, no, it's not. - We're not. - You don't, you don't, yeah, you, just, we're not gonna be that stupid. - We're not gonna be that stupid. - Chill. - I've got so chill right now. - This isn't what the podcast is going to be. Irbis gets is not going to be us talking about the condition or our conditions. Again, but we have to get it out of our system. - We don't know what it's gonna be about. And somehow, this early, it has become about us talking about our condition. - But what I'm saying is, I just apologize, and you can stop listening now. - I'm sorry. - Or watching. It's gonna keep happening. No one would blame you. - So we're walking around the NYC with my WIFE and WIFE and your wife. - Yeah, that's me and my wife. And at one point, I just remembered feeling, oh gosh. It's just like, it's like, now, it's didn't feel right, man. And it scared the, Pobonky out of me. - Okay. - Pobonky. I had to make up a word. I mean, upon further inspection a little bit later, I was like, oh, that, I mean, it's like, I didn't immediately know it was the condition. I thought it was, like, I didn't know what it was. I thought you were dying. - But it was very scary. - Most people think they're dying. - I asked my wife to look at it. - Oh gosh, that's intimacy. - Yeah, I mean, scared her. - And then, I mean, I didn't do anything about it, and it kinda went away for the most part, but I've lived with it for eight years. - Yeah, and you've complained about it quite a bit. - But at a certain point, you get of a certain age, and you reach a certain level of discomfort, and a couple other symptoms start to start to make an appearance, and then you're like, man, I gotta get in there. I no longer care if this means I have to let someone who I meet within seconds put their finger in my rectum. It just, I don't care anymore. And you know what? - I'm that uncomfortable. - Okay, and you will tell us about your trip to the Proctologist because that's so intriguing and I will tell them about my trip to the Proctologist. - Yes, we will. - But first, Link, and I tell you what it was like in my bed last night. - Uh, yes, please don't do it. Okay. - I, only if this is for a product. - It is, it's for a product. It's for the parachute sheets that we were given to try out. And I-- - Right. - And put them along with my wife, put them on the bed last night. - Okay, team building exercise. - And then, oh yeah, we didn't fight at all when we put them on because we were just talking about the finish. She was like, yes, I went with the Satine finish. It would have never done that before. A little bit of a sheen there. I got in, it was smooth as silk. I had an incredible night's sleep. - Wow. - I'm not making this up, man. And you didn't, you haven't put yours on your bed yet, but you have yours, you're in the back of your car. I put the box in the back of your car. - Really? - I was thinking of you to sleep on them tonight, and then you could tell me what you think. - Did you experience the premium quality that only gets softer with time? - Yeah, they get, I mean, I think it got softer throughout the night. - Okay. What did you experience the way they were made responsibly? 100% natural with no harmful chemicals or synthetic softener. - Yeah, I felt no harmful chemicals, no softeners, no synthetic softener. - Did you experience that they were giving back by partnering with the United Nations Foundation as nothing but nets campaign to donate life saving malaria prevention bed nets? - Yeah, I thought I felt that. Yeah, I thought I felt that. - That is sweet. - Right around the leg area. - Okay, I am sold. What do I do? - You visit a pair. - I put them on the bed, 'cause I've got my-- - Well, you've got them, but our listeners-- - I'm getting some more from my loved ones. - Our listeners have a special offer here. They can visit parachutehome.com/ear for free shipping and returns, and they get a 69 trial. If they don't love it, they just send it back. No questions asked, that is parachutehome.com/ear for free shipping and returns. - Nice. - Tell us about the proctologist. - You went before me. So why don't you. I think I've told this story at some point. Maybe I didn't. Yeah, I went five years ago, at the first time. - That's right. - Five years ago, when I was having my own issues with the condition, while we were traveling around, I was talking about two weeks ago. - Commercial kings. - You went two weeks ago, right? - I went five years ago. That was the first time the guy said, "That's my finger." - Well, tell me that story. - As he-- - As he-- - Proper. - Yeah. - Tell me the proper story. - Well, I mean, it was very. The only thing I remember is the thing I'm trying to forget. You know what I'm saying? That's the situation that I'm in right now. - Yeah, but tell me. - I mean, not that I'm into it, but-- - I just remember he said-- - I just want to know if my experience was the same. - Well, from the first time? - From the first time. - Well, the first time he said, he came in there and he was like, I'd like you, I'm gonna have you drop your drawers. You can leave your shirt on. - He said drawers? - Which makes-- Well, I'm paraphrasing. It's five years ago. He said, "Take your pants off. Leave your shirt on," which made me feel like a cartoon character. And-- - Because personally, if I'm taking my pants off, I feel like I should take my shirt off too. There's no-- You feel so much more vulnerable when you're just bottom half naked than when you're just completely naked. Completely naked is like warrior. Bottom half naked is, I should be violated. - You're right. - You know what I'm saying? And I think they do that. I think he tells you, keep your top on because you're trying to humiliate you. - Humiliate you. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. You're like, snoopy or Mickey, man. You're right. - Yeah. - Yogi. Yogi. - Yogi wore a tie, actually. I had on a shirt, not just a tie. Take off everything, but put on this tie. - But then he says, me and Marissa-- - I don't remember her name. - Me and Marissa will be in in a second. I'm like, well, who's Marissa? (laughs) You know, and all of a sudden there's the doctor who's a man. - You remember her name. - And Marissa, no, I'm making it up, but again, paraphrasing. Who's a woman? Not just a woman, like straight out of school, like too young for my comfort level. (laughs) And-- - And there's not about your comfort level. It's about the lack of access. That's all I was thinking about. And he's like, okay, bend over. And then the next thing he said was, that's my finger. And of course, what he meant by that is, that's my finger inside of you right now. Already. - That was my finger. - Because it could be anything. He was confirming that it was a finger. And he investigated, did the doctor thing that he needed to do. And I put my pants back on. And he was like, well, yeah, you've got the condition. But it's not too serious. And here's something and going about your business. And I've had a good five-year stretch. Well, that's probably a bad word. I've had a good five years, good five years where things have been okay. And, but then recently, when you started talking about how you needed to see a doctor again, I was like, you know-- - That gave you the itch. - To tell you the truth, my condition has never resolved itself. And I think I need to go back again, getting closer to 40, should probably go. And this time it was basically the same exact situation, but the doctor was much more personable. - Was Marissa, did Marissa say anything? - You left that out. - She made me no compliments. That's what you're asking. She said nothing. I think they-- - I think they say-- - Say good time around, no Marissa. - I think no. No Marissa for stage one this time around. And first of all, I don't know how your doctor had you do it, but my doctor had me get on my side like a baby. - Feetal position. - In the fetal position. And that was his angle of approach. Whereas the first guy, it was bending over a table. - Oh wow. - So I definitely preferred the, it's more comfortable to be in the fetal position because you already feel like a baby. You know, it's like having your temperature taken. So, yeah, when you bend over, it's like you being punished. - Yeah, and so I was more comfortable. We had quite a conversation while I was in this position. And then Marissa came in again, another lady. I would just always call anyone who was a single. - Marissa, this existing color rectal surgeon, Marissa. And-- - But it was another woman. - Yeah, and that was when he went, he did it like a, - No care. - He did a, he put a camera in there. And I'm not talking like a DSLR. (laughing) It's just a camera that was-- - That's a DSLR going in there. - I gotta get my Instagram updated. (laughing) - Actually updated his Instagram. (laughing) - Marissa, you know what, updated. What are you up dating Instagram? - You know, keep it up to date. - And you wear it to your V-Lex shirt to talk about, I don't even use Instagram, but I know the Burr was not updated. - Posts? - Okay. - Posts into Instagram? - Oh, he just updated his Instagram, is that it? - What I was trying to do was make a joke about how, you know, that's what the doctor does. He takes a picture of your butthole for his Instagram. (laughing) But actually it was a, it was a camera that's just designed for the butt. And-- - Do you have it? Can I see it? - No, it's not disposable and you don't get to keep it. They take it out. And he said-- - Do you have the picture? - He said, come back in three weeks, which that's another week for me. - Oh nice. - Which incidentally-- - Which will make another podcast. - He's monitoring something, in case you're wondering. I'm gonna be okay. - Is he monitoring right now? Is there a camera coming? - No, he removed it. Now, but you also have a come back in three weeks situation from what I heard. What you told me, but you didn't give me the details 'cause you said you would give me the details here on the show. - Well, the doctor, the nurse asked me question-- - We're halfway through this, by the way. We're still talking about it. But, you know-- - Well, it's important to get it out. And she was asking me all this history questions while I'm fully clothed. - Marissa? - Yeah, Marissa. - She's everywhere. And then as she's leaving the room, she's like, take out your pants and you underwear and put on this gown. - You got a gown. - I got a gown. - Shh. - I didn't get it. - But I did leave my shirt on and I put my gown over that. But it was open in the back and I sat back down and then he comes in and he talks to me a little bit and he's not the whole time he's talking to me. I'm like, looking at his hand. - Yeah. - I'm like-- - 'Cause you have tiny hands. (laughing) - No. And I think you can tell I was looking at his hand 'cause he kept moving it up by his face to like try to make eye contact. - Here it is. Follow the hand, Mr. Neal. (laughing) See a visual joke. - Yeah, right, you get-- - You can do that. - You got it. - If you're-- - They're listening to the audio version of your biscuits. - You just missed a visual joke. - When Link said, move the hand, I took my hand and put it into the spot symbol and put it over my right eye. It was very funny in the video version. - It worked. - Not to make you feel roughed out. - I think most people can enjoy both. Do not enjoy the video version of your biscuits while driving down the lanes. Less year of the back seat, watching on a screen. - So I didn't hear anything he said. I was just waiting for him to say, bend over or roll over or whatever. - Like a dog. - And he said, I want you to lay on your right side. - Your right side, huh? - The first thing he said was-- - I was on my left side. - He was talking, and I was answering his specific, very specific questions about the condition and the sensations and the history of it. And he's like, well, let's take a look. And that's when I'm like, you know, you gotta keep breathing, that's the key. - You gotta keep breathing. He's like, lay on your right side. So I got in the fetal position. And I'm facing the wall, much better than the bend over position. I think that, I mean, I just-- I can't imagine having to do it. You've done it both ways, but I agree with your preference. And he did not give me any warning. He was just poked right in there. - Did it make that noise? So I think I could help, I could diagnose that. You have a problem. That's supposed to make a cartoon noise. - Yeah, the pop a bubble. - Oh gosh. - No, he didn't. And it didn't feel great. And then it was like, I'm gonna go four quadrants. And I want you to tell me how that feels. So it's like, who knew it had four quadrants? It's like, is it a good thing that I got four quadrants? - I think everything has four quadrants. - Well, he divided it into four, but it's the circle. - I think that's the definition of a quadrants, just dividing something into four. - Well, he did. He did. He was like, this quadrant, how does it, you know, he's like, right to pain here, here, here, and here. And I let him know that at certain points, it's certain, there was a quadrant hotspot. - Oh, good. - You get more. - You've already gotten pretty specific. - But I mean, it was like, please let this be over quickly, man. And then it was. And I set back up and I talked to him and, he had on a glove at that point. I was like, oh, I didn't see him put on a glove. I guess he had on the glove the whole time. That would be proper. (laughing) - Well, yeah. (laughing) But I didn't remember him putting on a glove. He's always going barehead. (laughing) - Yeah, I felt like, at one point, I felt like I needed a stop and no, I'll ask him. But he did, and the glove was coming off at that point. But then he's like talking, talking, talking, and I'm like, just trying to recover from the moment. And the whole time I'm thinking, when this is over, am I gonna shake his hand? So my hands were back. I was like, I was like, propped up. I was propped back. On the bench, the seat, the table thingy. And then he tells me everything, he's like, well, I want you to try this shrinking suppository. So I'm doing that for a couple of weeks and then come back. And I'm like, okay, and I'm not extending my hands or anything. And then he's like, it's like any questions? I'm like, nope. I look at their hand. And then he's like, well, let me summarize. And he summarizes everything. And then it's like, I keep thinking it's gonna be over. And then he's like, here comes the hand. And then I of course, I shook his hand. I'm not gonna deny it. He took the glove off though. The glove was off at this point. And I shook the hand. But it did feel weird. I mean, he didn't shake my hand when he first met me. And he had just, I mean, while I was waiting, I heard like uncomfortable sounds from the room next door. Like, oh, really? Yeah, I could hear through the wall. He was in there with another person. And it was not going well. At one point I heard someone say, are you gonna be able to drive home? Oh gosh. This is right before he comes in. You had a bad experience. Are you gonna be able to drive home? Yeah, my guy, there was nobody. I was the first one there. The no one else was in the waiting room. There was nobody else having a question whether or not they were gonna drive home. Wow, what was he doing to that guy? I don't wanna know. I mean, either, man. I think we can move on now. What do we learn here though? I mean, we're gonna, I think it's gonna happen multiple times over the next couple of months. I mean, they want us both back. Yeah, I just think it's gonna be more probing. I think that part of getting older. And I went to the dentist this morning. I mean, I got it going in both orifices. But that's pretty, I mean, the dentist is kind of a normal thing. It's kind of a normal thing. It's like every six months. But I'm seeing a pattern here. I'm just, I'm getting comfortable with just getting in a chair or on a table and people are just inserting stuff. Well, professional. That's what getting, professionals are. It is be very specific. That's important. I think this, I'm getting comfortable with that. I think that's part of getting older is understanding that, yeah, you're moving into this stage. You're moving into the stage where you have to be evaluated by professionals physically in order to make sure that you make it through the next half of your life, man. We're havers, man. That's what's happening. I don't know what the current life expectancy for an American male is, but I gotta assume we're like halfway there. I mean, that's literally what is happening to us right now. You don't think it's in the mid 80s? What is the life expectancy for an adult male American? And I'm gonna guess that the answer is, four. You think it's 84? I would say it's 81 for a male. And then for a female. I would say it's 85 for a female. I'm saying 84 and 86. And then, I'm saying 81, 1 and 85. Okay, so it was 78. Oh, 78. What did I say? Man, you said 81. No, for a man, I said 81. I don't remember what you said. Link, either way you look at it, we're more than halfway there, man. You're, I'm exactly halfway there. And here's the problem. Exactly halfway there and you're almost halfway there. The problem is people have just started putting their finger in our butts. Yeah, and that's the way we do. That's all we've got to look for. We should have been spreading it out. We come, use a better analogy. We should have been allowing that to happen much earlier. If there's a certain amount of finger pokes that you get. The finger pokes don't have any impact or effects in the first 40 years. You most people don't, most people don't need them. But you know, another thing that has happened because I think we should stop talking about the condition. Let's move to talk about something. Let's move away from it. Another thing that has happened is, since the last time we hadn't, we made a near biscuit, we both have teenager children now. Yeah, Lily turned 13 a year ago and locked just turned 13. Just turned 13. Now. So we both have 13 year olds. And I mean, my son wasn't even with me when he turned 13. He was in Africa. It's funny 'cause Lily was in China. Well, look at us. We sent him away to become teenagers. Like go to the other side of the earth if you're gonna become a teenager. She had, I mean, - Don't be with me. - Lily had a friend whose, her best, one of her best friends, dad was working for Disney, building the park over there. Building the Shanghai Disney. - Right. - So they lived over there for, I can't remember how many months, four months, six months maybe? - I think they were over there almost a year. That's what I remember. - Maybe. - But Lily went over for a couple of weeks. - She went over for a couple of weeks with friends with family members. So she flew over there with them and she turned 13. And we didn't, you know, we didn't. - Did anything send her a card? - It turned out, she made it. - Turned out we didn't need to be there for her to become a teenager. - Right, it still happens whether you're there or not. It's not like quantum mechanics. And then Locke turned 13 in Africa because he went there with my wife, one of his friends, again, it's a friend connection. One of his friends had started a charity over there helping to build schools and giving kids resources and access to health services and that kind of thing. And he went over there with some of his friends and he was in a hut. I mean, so they did a lot of things. They were in Uganda, but there was one night the day of his birthday where they went to like a remote village. So I mean, they stayed in like a relatively nice hotel and they stayed in some different places, but there was the time that they went to the remote village and they was like, we're going to let you guys see what it's like to stay in a hut. Literally a hut is somebody's house. It's not like, hey, - Like a floor type situation. - Let's bring the Western tourists in and have them stay in a museum piece. No, it's like, this is someone's home that you stay in. Suggestion lock state in this person's home and inside of a mosquito net. You know, you had to have a mosquito net. You know, they had all their like malaria stuff before they went, had to be in the mosquito net and they, he turned 13. - In a mosquito net. - In this mosquito net. - And what did he say about it? I mean, it was it, they sleep in the mosquito net or was it just for them? I don't know. - No, yeah, I mean. - They all sleep in, if you have access to a mosquito net, you use it. - Yeah, and that's in fact, that's one of the easiest ways to help people in Africa is the mosquito nets. It actually is the most effective way that you can give, that you can donate in terms of how your dollar impacts saving a human life is through a mosquito net. Anyway, so they had a birthday party for them in this little village and they made a cake for them and they thought his name was Rocky. - How did, because his name is Locke and they like brought him up front and they were like, Rocky and he was like, yeah, he didn't want to recruit. So they were like, they saying happy birthday to Rocky. (laughing) So not only did he become 13, now he's, we call him Rocky. - He got a new name? - Yeah, he got a whole new name. He came back from Africa with a new name and new identity, Rocky, he's gonna be a boxer. And, but, you know, I wrote this, I wrote in his card and, you know, I try to, I always write a read, - Legibly, each other. - I read, and I try to write a rather lengthy, meaty, somewhat substantial thing in their birthday cards. - Yeah, yeah. - My wife got me into that because that's kind of, her family always, my family on the other hand, was always like, the way that, you know, the way that my mom has always written in birthday cards has been like, she'll take what the card says inside and she'll like, underline three words. - Yeah, yeah. - So she'll like, take what was written inside the card, which is the perfect thing that she selected and bought, and then she'll add her own emphasis, emphasis added by Diane. - And then she'll be like, what he said. - And then she's, and then of course, she says, - Just above here. - And she will write, you know, a couple of sentences, and that's how I always was. And I was like, listen, these people know that I love them. And I can communicate that in other ways than sitting down and writing a card. But then when I met Jesse, he was like, oh no, her family does things different. So they would write very long, you know, in fact, you had to write a well thought out long, different thing. It couldn't be the same thing that you said last year. - 'Cause they keep it. - Right. - And they'll compare. - And so now, you know, I'm writing things for Valentine's Day and for birthday from my wife. And of course, I'm writing something thoughtful. But I think this is a better tradition. I think this is a good adaptation that our family has made. - This is a good thing that you're being forced to do. - Because I think that the kids will look back and think like, okay, this is what, this is where I was in my life. And this is what my dad was communicating to me. And also, hopefully something that I say now will have some sort of impact. But you just, I just start thinking, I'm just like, man, he's 13. He is, he is who he's going to be. Like that's what I'm just like, I mean, I should write something thoughtful. And I'm not saying, I'm not saying I'm no longer parenting. But you just start thinking it's just like, in a lot of ways, it's over. With our teenagers, we can guide and we can help direct and we can be there and we can answer questions and we can help them make good decisions. And we're gonna continue to do all those things. But when it comes to the core of who they are as a person, the kind of person that they're gonna be, it is largely determined. It has largely been determined. Well, that's not gonna keep us from continuing to try. Oh, you keep trying. So you wrote, I mean, is that what you wrote? Are you wrote something in there? I said, you are who you are. No, you didn't. I still love you, so no. No, I, no, I, I, go and he opened it in the, in the mosquito net. I, well, I don't know. I haven't talked to him about the opening of the card. What I'm trying to say is that I wanted it to be impactful and I wanted it to be substantial and I wanted it to be like, this is from a dad and I'm turning to 13, this is a big deal and I said all those things. And I think it was meaningful. I haven't talked to him about it, but I'm sure it was meaningful. He hasn't brought it up. But what I, but what I was thinking as I was writing it is like, man, 13 years of past. It's like, if this was 100 years ago, I'd be like, son, good luck with your farm. You know what I mean? Yeah, and you're wiping three kids. I'd be like, he'd have a woman and they'd be going off and they'd have a family. You know, and like a, like a year from now. And you'd be dying. Yeah, and I would have died already, life expectancy, but what it was. For Lily, we gave her a journal and then I wrote, so she does the writing. Well, yeah, it's like write me something. No, I wrote a big thing at the front of the journal that was basically a very similar thing like, hey, this is my fatherly perspective on where you are and, you know, this is a big trip for you. And then there was inspirational assignments. Like I want you to write in this journal to remember the things that are happening. I want you to write something every day. You know, I probably got a little overbearing. It was like write something in a journal every day. And here's a list of questions that will fill a half a page of me just writing those out of questions that you can ask yourself and reflect on. Like about the culture and how things are different. And I just, you know, I wanted to empower her to reflect and remember stuff. You gave like thought starters. Like you created like a journal that you could have sold to any child who was going to China. A workbook. Yeah. That's a business idea. You know, you find out where the kids going and you give them a series of questions. And then when she came back, she was like, "Look at all the pictures I took." Ooh, she didn't answer your questions. Well, I mean, it was her. She still have the journal. It's her prerogative, you know? I think that I don't know if she wrote in the journal every day. I didn't feel like it was my business to police the journal. It was like, "Hey, this is, you know, maybe I'm actually being a little overbearing and giving specific assignments." But, you know. That's how I would interpret it. But it's okay. Right. I know I have a tendency to do that. So that's why on the back end, I'm like, I'm not going to demand that I read the journal. I mean, it is her journal. It was her prerogative to write stuff in it or not. Yeah. And that's, again, that's the best I can do. I can still, I can give journals, I can give cards at Valentine's Day that say how amazing she is and things like that. I think the best we can do is when, you know, it's whatever life throws at you and our kids that they're able to respond and life doesn't crush them, but they own it, you know? It's like, I'm grabbing life by the horns. I want to be a proctologist. I'm gonna do it. Oh, that's not the hardest. I understand what that means, but that's what I want to do with my life. I've told her that she probably shouldn't do it, but she's into it. I was trying to bring it back to proctology. You're not biting. That's okay. But, I can talk about this. You know, I'll tell you guys, I took, speaking of Lily, we took her in for just an annual checkup and the doctor diagnosed, well, the doctor said, you know, they always check for scoliosis. I think it's just something you do every year. They did it for us in school. Whether she, they had concerns center to a specialist and then to make a very long story short, she was diagnosed with severe scoliosis. You know, we get the x-ray, the specialist looks at it and we look at this thing and her back is like an s. I mean, it's, it just, it floored us. And, you know, when we were driving to the specialist, we knew that she had curves. We had, you know, we had done research about, well, given certain measurements, does that mean that there's gonna be bracing that she has to wear a brace as she goes through puberty, as she goes through a growth spurt, to not correct it, but just to stop the curve from getting worse so that after she's through a growth spurt, it's something that many people are just live with and have a normal life even though their spine is curved. Or does this mean that, does this mean something more? Does this mean surgery? Or some other course of action that the internet and the first doctor hadn't told us yet. So on the way to the specialist, I'm riding, Lily's riding with me and then Christie's driving separately so that I can even come to, I have to come into work. We had to shoot something that day. And so I was gonna take her, have some time with her and then she was gonna ride back with Christie. And I just remember telling her on the way there, based on the measurements of your curves and the research that I've done on the internet, which is all the information I can find so far, I just feel like, whatever it is, we're gonna figure this out, we're gonna get through this, but, you know, I'm confident that it's not gonna be surgery. The doctor's not gonna tell us surgery. Like I actually told her that. I just felt confident based on how the curves were measured. But then when we get in with the specialist, his measurements were a more accurate, you know, that's why you go to a specialist for the specialization. But and they were worse. And, you know, I think in retrospect, he's dealt with this so much, he knew that it takes a while to sneak in. He gave us all the information and it was in a masterful way. But it just is almost impossible for it all to sink in. But basically the first thing he told us was, these are where her curves are. This is what this means. This is, these are the facts. This is what research has taught us. This is what experience has taught us. Therefore, we're recommending spinal fusion surgery for Lily. Of course, it's me, Kristi, and Lily in the room. And he's explaining a lot of it. And I just didn't think he was going to say that, you know? So it like, it absolutely floored me. Like Kristi and I were just speechless. And the doctor, of course, he was very understanding and he allowed us to ask questions. But there was that moment, whereas, like, I don't know what to say. We're gonna have to regroup on this. But then like you catch your breath and you ask questions. And we asked some clarifying questions about what that meant, what the, what all the alternatives were. - Well, I'm to clarify because it's such a major surgery. I mean, because a lot of people will be like, don't get surgery. - Right. - So, I mean, you've gotten a second opinion. You've talked to multiple people. - Yeah, we've gotten it. I mean, since then, yeah, we've gotten, we've got a second opinion and a third opinion. And we've explored many other options, many different types of procedures and come to the conclusion that, yes, this is the right decision for Lily. But it's not the, and so surgery is scheduled for not too far down the road. But, and it's like, you know, it's pretty much the whole middle of her back, you know. It's like, it's major. It's major. But in that moment, when we're sitting there, I look at Lily and like, we're floored. And I mean, she was surprised, but I was just, I was surprised that her reaction was, well, I know what I want to do, but I want to hear what you guys think. It's like, that's what she said. So then we were like, well, this is not an easy decision. It's probably not, we're not gonna make it right here in the doctor's office. We're gonna have to think about this and look at all, look at all of our options. - Right. - And she was like, you know, if this is what needs to happen, I'm ready to do it, you know. If the surgery's the right thing, I want to do it. And you know, it wasn't, her first reaction wasn't fear. It was, okay, if this is how we have to move forward, then let's do it. You know, I was, I reflected on that a lot. Now, was it, you know, what we left, I mean, we left the doctor's office, we went out, we got in the van, and it was like the three of us, and like we talked about it some more, and we cried, you know, all three of us cried, 'cause it was, of course, it wasn't it is very scary. But the fact that, you know, you know, as a 13 year old to be struck with such, you know, scary news that, she wasn't dominated by fear, if she wasn't debilitated by it. She was able to, you know, have, I don't know if the, you know, I don't want to say it was a mature response. For her, it was, her honest response was, okay, let's, let's engage. Let's, let's figure this out. She handled it better than you. She handled it better than I did. Yeah, yeah, then I did, certainly. And, you know, we've had more conversations. There's been more tears. There's been a lot of, I mean, a lot of just being honest and staying on the same page and trying to figure it out. But I mean, it's, my point is, and, you know, it's times like that that you figure out who your kid is as a person. It's, and you start to look at your kid, not as a kid anymore, but as another human, you know, it's like it could be, you know, it could be you. It could be me. It could be, you know, well, stuff's gonna hit all of us. And what you realize is that, you know, we'd like to take a lot of credit for things, you know. Right, right. But the fact is, is that her response to that situation is not something that you taught her or your wife taught her. 'Cause I know you and your wife, you know that if you were personally impacted by that, you would, if I was personally impacted by that. Like, we've already established I'm a high-pochondriac. It's in my genes to just worry about that. Like, if I was facing that, you know, I've told the story before when I found out that I had herniated discs, which can in some cases, some extreme cases result in a spinal fusion surgery of just a couple of vertebrae. Yeah. I fainted when the doctor told me that I had herniated discs. In the room by yourself. And then when he told me, and he left the room and then I fainted because I was freaking out. And he came to before he came back in and then you act like you're like nothing to have. Yeah, and I, but so I, but I think we should take some comfort in that. Yeah. All of us is individuals and as parents, because the fact is, is that you do what you can. This is not advocating for not parenting. This is advocating definitely for parenting and supporting and being there. But it's also kind of taking the pressure off yourself because you could not have done anything to prepare really for that situation because you personally, as a mature adult, were not prepared for it. But it was in her disposition to be prepared for that moment. I mean, and it, it, it's certainly, it's not like it's easy for, I'm not saying that. Well, it's a little bit, it's, it's both factors. I mean, you do everything you can to raise your kid and, and dem, I mean, we, you go, it's not the first hard time we've been through. And you, you figure that out as a family. Everything you go through and you learn from all that stuff. I mean, we are, we are having an impact on who our kids are. Well, yes, but, but I'm saying, but that's, that side of it is the side that you always hear, right? That's the side that you hear in all the parenting books. I mean, parenting books, the whole parenting book market is completely based on the presumption that you can have a drastic impact on the lives of your children. And you can. But that's, that, that sells books and it gives people jobs. And nobody wants to hear, well, your kid is also from, for a lot of other reasons, both nature and nurture and things that are outside of your control, going to be a certain way. That's, nobody wants to hear that because it means, it makes you feel powerless and it makes you feel like you don't have a lot of control. But it doesn't mean that it's not largely true. In fact, I was listening to a podcast, I can't remember which one it was, but like one of the foremost child psychologists was the guest on the show. And he was basically saying exactly what I'm saying right now. I'm, I'm no expert. He is actually an expert and he's like, there's a lot of people out there who claim to know a whole lot about psychology of children. And what we have found through, there's, every study has been very inconclusive. And actually, what our research tells us, when you look at all the research, is that in a large measure, kids are going to be who they're going to be. Doesn't mean that parenting is not very important. And then you put kids in one situation on one side of the earth and another kid in another situation, that their circumstances are definitely going to determine many things about their future and their outcome. But the personality makeup and disposition is a big part of that is going to be determined by genetics. And then there'll be some very formative events that can kind of send things in different ways. But as a parent, I mean, first of all, I think there's a balance here because our wives have been the ones who've read all the parenting books and have like obsessed about, you know, they've homeschooled the kids. Yeah, two, two are credit. They've invested all this time into, and I think there's been a immeasurable impact. So I don't want to diminish that. At the same time, we can take comfort in the fact that it's like, okay, we do what we can, but in the midst of a real trying moment like this, like her finding out that she's got to have the surgery, it's like that response that she's going to have, that's kind of largely determined by who she just is. And I want to make sure that in sharing the story that, and I'm just concerned that I don't want to make sure I'm not leaving a lot of unanswered questions that people will be concerned about. In turn, like, yeah, right. Having not like calculated exactly how I wanted to talk about it or anything, as in terms of like, when is this thing? We're talking like early May. So there's, I mean, it's, it's, I guess I owe you an update after that point, but yeah, we feel very, I don't know, is there any unanswered? - No, I mean, I think you covered it that she's, you know, the surgery is definitely the best option given her circumstances. And it's going to be a serious spinal fusion surgery with a pretty long recovery time, but the, there's lots of people who've had the surgery. Lots of, you can go, there's lots of people on YouTube. - Well, that was interesting, you know. - You've made YouTube videos about their journey. - Yeah, I came back. - Through this surgery. - I came back. We were in the van. We were, when I said that like, we were crying together and then we, I still had to come in, you know, it's like, I was, I think because of some sort of circumstance with like us going to Sundance, which then I wasn't gonna go to Sundance and then Lily and Christy both told me to keep our plans to go to Sundance even though it was, it, I didn't want to go and I didn't want to leave them at that point. They wanted me to go and that turned out to be a good situation for all of us for that to happen. - Yeah, we had to come in and shoot, good Mythical Morning. So we had to come in and we had to shoot good Mythical Morning before we left for that. But then, so then I'm driving in alone And I'm just thinking I can't, you know, I knew that we had a shoot and I was like, I can't talk about this because then we wouldn't be able to shoot the episode. Camera with the episode was at this point. And then it's like in the drive in and just that was kind of the conclusion. It's like, I'm not going to talk about this because I'm going to get upset. We won't be able to shoot. We can talk about it. Which is interesting. I think a lot of people, you know, we're not vloggers, right? I mean, we do unscripted video when we do Good Mythical Morning and it gets it can technically be classified as a vlog, right? But we're not like family vloggers who are like, hey, we're letting you into our family and giving you this insight. We make a show. We make a show that has a very specific purpose and the primary purpose of Good Mythical Morning is to entertain the audience and to give people a break from the bull crap. Yeah, because everybody's got stuff. Everyone's learning the same type of information that Lily learned that morning and watching our show is a reprieve. You know, I want people when they get that bad news that they can count on our show to be a reprieve in those 15 minutes. People may say, listen, no, if you guys are going through something super serious like that, just stop and tell us or make the show about that. It's like, no, we're not going to do that. We're talking about it on ear biscuits. Yeah. I mean, that's another reason to do ear biscuits. We're going to talk about things like this that we're not going to bring into Good Mythical Morning because that's not the purpose of that show. It's not designed to be this open book into our lives. It's designed to be, it's a particular type of entertainment. But ironically, I was trying to remember where I was going with that. Okay, so when I came in, I had enough breathing time on my drive in that when I didn't make an active decision, but I walked into our office before we had a shoot and you were like, tell me about it. And then I'm not going to be like, I can't talk about it right now. I just told you about it. And it was like, it actually made me feel better to just be able to talk through it because it's like, okay, I'm such a verbal processor that I can, if I stay inside my own head, it would just be like a fear cycle of this is horrible. So it was, it was helpful for me to field your questions. And then it's like, you know, you started looking on the internet immediately. And we pulled up YouTube videos that the irony is we said we didn't talk about this stuff on YouTube, but then we ended up finding a lot of people, mostly girls. I mean, so many girls was actually more common in females. Yeah, who are like beginning to go through puberty at that age or whatever, who the type of scoliosis, it's called, I can't remember the name right now, but basically the name says they don't know why, where it, what causes it. It's in the name of it, but a lot of these girls have put their, my scoliosis story and a lot of a lot of them had the spinal fusion surgery and it kind of vlogged through the process or put their before and after pictures and just kind of talked about the process. I think when you go through it as a type of thing and we've met other kids who are going through and have gone through the surgery and in person and Lily has talked to him, become friends with some of them. But the first exposure was YouTube videos that you and I watched that then I shared with Christie and Lily and that, it gave us a lot of comfort and confidence that there was a path. Yeah. You know, we didn't know if it was our path yet, but we know that it was a valuable path that these people went on YouTube, shared their stories and we immediately benefited from it. I think that was my point. Yeah. It all comes back to YouTube. It's all about YouTube. Yeah, that's really monetized here. They monetized their surgery just like we're monetizing this. Without YouTube, we wouldn't be here. Link wouldn't have no hope. That's not true. Not true. But to bring it back to, again, we didn't know what this show was going to be about. This is what it has become. It's, man, we took a turn here. We opened, we spread the cheeks. Spread the cheeks. For the proctologist for a good half hour. And then we opened our hearts, man. I mean, this is, this is an ear biscuit. This is what makes a complete ear biscuit. It's not always going to be this. But to round out the whole point of the show, I guess, which became about us getting older, I think there's a few markers, right? There's a few markers. One is the being probed personally. But then there's this thing that I think I've experienced, I know you've experienced ever since I saw, I held my first child lock in my hands. I mean, Rocky. Rocky. You tell me I'm Rocky. Yeah, I was like, oh crap. Oh no. I'm going to worry a lot about this. Like, yeah. Now, I have to worry about this child because I'm so concerned about them. This is going to be difficult for me. Because I'm like, you kind of like feel your heart kind of change a little bit. Grow a little bit and become a little bit more vulnerable. And I don't want to be one of those guys. It's true. You don't understand life if you don't have children. You know, you have a lot more free time and you can see a lot more movies if you don't have children. That's pretty much what it pulls down to. There are a lot of reasons not to have children. But movies and free time. Just hobbies. That's what you mean. You know, the good life. But the, when you do have a kid, it brings this sense of responsibility and this constant worrying about their welfare, you know. So with something like Lily's going through is just these kinds of things are going to happen. These are the kind of things that you dread, but the kind of things that you happen. And it's out of your control. Even though our first thing was how, did we not notice this? Is it our fault that it got to this point? Right. And you know, that's not the case. But that's still the first thing you think is you want to think that you can have control over something, especially if you really love it. Yeah. You were trying to summarize that. Well, you know, that is, that's where we're at right now. We're in a place where we're going to the doctor for ourselves and for our children. That's, that's where we're at. And we're going to keep doing your biscuits. We're going to, we're going to bring you a biscuit every week and to give you a little preview of what season three might hold. Okay. It's going to be a lot, I would say it's going to be a lot looser and a lot different and may go a lot more places and different places than previous seasons have gone. Yeah, because we haven't planted. I mean, I'm, well, I would say we haven't even discussed. We haven't discussed what it will be. We've discussed what we don't want it to be. The same philosophy that I've been taking with my hair in 2017 and just letting it do what it wants to do is the same philosophy that we're taking with your biscuits. We're going to let it be what it wants to be. Sometimes it's going to be the two of us. Sometimes we're going to bring somebody else. It's not, you know, the previous two seasons, the majority of the episodes were us just sitting down and doing like a very deep interview with most often a YouTube personality. Not saying that's not going to happen, but that's not going to be the main thrust of the show. We're going to talk to each other a lot. We're going to talk to other people. We may be talking to you guys at some point, taking your questions. We don't know. We're going to keep it open. We're going to keep it loose, but keep it tight. And the one thing we're going to do is we're going to keep doing it. Not like a spankter. We're going to keep it loose and keep it tight. That's what we almost called this podcast, spankter. But we didn't. Yeah. And we don't think fully we didn't, but that might be the name of the first episode. But if we take this podcast to Ugandan tent, it may be called spankter. Yeah. It may get a new name. Who knows? I don't know how it translates to Ugandan. Thank you guys. Do you on iTunes sound cloud or you don't leave YouTube reviews? You're going to leave a comment or a like if you're watching this on YouTube. Also subscribe to the This is Mythical Channel for more ear biscuits and other content throughout the week. Thank you for being your Mythical Best. Yes. [Music]