Legendary UFC Fighter Don Frye Bullies The Gang | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 234

Yeah, you won't go in there without shooting your butt like wedding night, you know, it's in and out. You broke your neck and walked it off for a year and a half. Well, that ain't the worst of a partner. Straight up modern day gladiators, dude. We can rebuild them stronger, faster, hardier. Let's just lift weights. Oh, come on, sweetheart. Brandon, we're so sorry. Feet of dog! This hair is fucking fabulous. Don't know a dark joke disposition. And there's a battle electrician. Welcome to unsubscribe. Hey, what is up, everyone? Next week starts the live shows in San Antonio. So we are super excited to get that rolling, prepping our livers and then seeing and hanging out with all of you. We're super, super excited. If you haven't got tickets yet, head over to unsubcrued.com/liveshows and picks them up so you don't get the marked up ones. Holy shit, are they marked up on scalp recites? That's not us. That will never be us. For the San Antonio show, we are talking with them. 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Talk to our new HR guy, Dawn Fry. Yeah. I'll take a number. I'll quit. Here's a complaint box right here, boy. You're just a walking merch line. Here's your complaint box. I mean, you guys showed up a little bit later than we did to brunch before we did me and Brandon and Dawn did the drink orders and Brandon orders, you know, Jack and Coke. I just had coffee. Dawn goes off bourbon and the little bubbly waitress comes over with her big smile, trying to get a good tip. She's like, okay, I have and just starts reading off a laundry list of all these decadent mixed drinks and Dawn just goes, can I just have bourbon? And then as she goes to walk away, she goes, make it a double. I don't want you to wear your shoes out. Oh, no. It's set the tone. Pretty fucking well. Yeah, good one. Oh, man. Yeah. More important little girl. Okay. So I think she got under 10,000 steps in, you know. Dawn, do you know how this works? Right on the count of three, we're going to pop it up. Just buy that microphone. I got you a beer. Yeah. Everyone ready? Three, two, one. Oh, yeah. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, Fatalec Trition. Dawn, fry. Brandon Herrera, myself, Dawn and Operator, thank you so much for being here. Have a little spillage there, Nick. It's okay. It's okay. Okay, we'll take it up. It's not my fault. Sorry. It's a lot of fun. Okay. We can just beat Fenn again. I blame Fenn. Fenn shook up my beer. Fenn, what are you talking about? Fenn comes paper towel. Oh, yeah. He needs to work. Oh, yeah. Good idea. Yeah. And there's no paper towels. Okay. We're setting up regular towels. Fenn can fuck up a two-car funeral. Yeah. A wet one. A wet one. That's surprising. Come from you. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. This has been. I sat down. I look over to get my drink and I'm like, "Oh, Dawn's drinking whiskey." Just. Okay. It's a glass. Okay. I will take him a mosa. You need a skirt with that. Here we. You need a mosa. I'm a mosa. It's a man mosa, Dawn. When there's vodka in it, it's a man mosa. Oh, okay. Yeah, because it's a potato, but potato alcohol. It's a walking potato, aren't you? It's a calming alcohol. Listen here, Dawn. I do think we should hang up a picture in here that says, "Human resources, Dawn Fry." And just have a picture. It's on the wall. Employee of the month. Every month of the month. "Human resources, Dawn." We're adding that now. That's going to be right. Actually, we're employing the month. And HR. Just Dawn Fry. Dawn Fry. I'm your HR department. First-never changing. How are you doing, brother? We have been so. I'm excited to have you on this episode. This is why all of us are here. It's been a couple of months in the making. Getting the teams aligned and then the schedule's aligned. But thank you so fucking much for coming out. Nice to be here, nice to be here. Thanks for having me, guys. That's an honest pleasure. I'm coming up with a mustache and beard wax. I'll get you three. Whenever you decide to grow one, we'll get you one. Asian and Mexican heritage. We've got a kitty for me and a for you. There's four months in the world. What's that? You trying to grow mustache? One day. It's puberty. Three packages of beard product, a beard product, and one package with the beard product and a bottle of Rogaine. It's just formula. What's a brand? A little nipple bottle. What's the brand going to be called? You know, that's a good question. I kind of jumped the gun on that one, didn't I? I think it's Dawn Fry something around her. Toxic masculinity. It's a good line for that too, yeah. It should be. It should be. That's a really good title for a beard oil. We were hanging out with Baker. Brandon and I went on a dovetail with him. And he was asking about you the whole time. He's like, "How sushi burrito doing?" I love Baker. This is our sushi burrito. Sushi burrito. Speaking of sushi burrito. Rockfish and tortilla. I'm just the schnitzel burrito. Oh, the joke is, because it's German ancestry and Mexican. So it's just a schnitzel. A little bit of schnitzel over there. What's the joke? No, it's not just reality. He's just half German. Half German. I don't know why I say the racist word for the Mexican side. Sarah, Sarah Grown. So we friend me as a Sarah Grown. Dude, Dawn, we did a good podcast with his grandmother, who was in Nazi-occupied Germany. And it was fun here in her stories. She was. She inadvertently attended some of the Hitler rallies. Yeah. I mean, as a small child. The reality of growing up, she's 93 years old. So she was a German civilian during World War II in Mannheim, Germany. Right. And just we're, I'm very, very lucky that she's still around and very sharp still. And can remember all these stories of what it's like growing up under Nazi occupation. Crazy stories. She needs to record that and force the kids of today. You know, listen to it, you know. Yeah, they had it kind of. They had no idea. They had no idea. No. He had no idea. Not being able to go to school because it got blown up. Right. We think we have fucking problems today, you know. We're very blessed and a lot of people don't realize it. No, they never get outside their own city block, you know. They don't get more than 200 yards away from their house. And they want to bits and complain, you know, about the, about the country. This is the greatest country on the planet, you know. Texas. Texas. [LAUGHTER] This number two. USA, I forgot you guys kind of slow. Let me speak slower here. Man, to the individuals or the audience that don't know who you are. Can you give a brief? Hey, this is why the guys are so fucking hyped that you're here. Because you're an OG legend. Hey, this is why the guys are so fucking hyped on here. He bullies us. That's the only reason. We're so stoked to have him on. Human resources. [LAUGHTER] So you were two time UFC champion, right? Yes, sir. Two time. Two time fought in the UFC for a year. How many fights you have? I had ten fights in the UFC. And then also a 11th fight over in Japan that year. It was in November. So it was a few weeks before the ultimate ultimate too. Yeah. And they weren't happy about it. But that's the hell there. They're paying me $20,000. Right. You want to pay me? I'll stay home. So back when you were fighting, it was tournament style. So what's the most amount of fights you had in the night? We had fight three times a night. If you're lucky enough to win, you had advanced three fights. So UFC today, obviously every dude that goes into a fight is watching footage of the other fighters because it's much more available now than it was for you. So I mean, you're doing groundwork like this. "Oh, this guy does this, I'm gonna do that." And there's all this game planning that goes in when you're planning on fighting one or two or three guys a year. What's the game plan for knowing that you're gonna fight three dudes a night? You don't know much about 'em. Like, what's your strategy going into the first fight compared to the second and third fight? Are you trying to conserve energy on the first fight? - Yeah, you wanna go in there without shooting your butt. You wanna go in there, just like a wedding night. You're sitting around like that. (laughing) - So, and again, anyone that doesn't know, when you have a fight now, you'll have a fight camp that's a few months long, and then you will, next thing, you are watching the individual, you were fighting. You were studying, there's a lot more cameras, everything's filmed now. Back at that time, this is three big-ass fights with three highly talented fighters, all in the same evening. And however many rounds those lasted, at that time, what was it? - Well, they were all one round, but there was no break, you know, you were just going 'til the fight was over. There were no rules, no way classes. - Jesus Christ. - Oh, there's two rules. Nobody knew Aguilting, but there was more guidelines and rules that probably didn't anyways. (laughing) - This is like full-on stomping on your face. - Oh, yeah. - I was showing Brandon. - Soccer kick, heel stomping, I mean, they did it all. - So, how much did you know about your opponents going in at times? Like, were there ever times where you like, didn't know if your opponent was a ground guy or a striker, did you know? Kind of have an idea of what their style was? - What they did, you had their style, you know. Back then it was more style versus style. - Yeah. - And so you just find out what the style was of the other seven competitors. And then you plan for it accordingly, you know. And most of them were, majority of them were standard fighters. - Yeah. - So, you know, you knew, oh yeah, it was good on the ground. - When you were doing it, were gloves required or optional? - No, they were optional. - They were optional, still? You chose to wear them though, right? - I chose to wear them, 'cause I hit hard. And I still broke my hand, you know, broke my hand twice. You can see the surgery scar there. - You wore shoes too? - Yeah, except for the ultimate ultimate, I went barefoot in that one. - The reason or you had to? - No, I just, some reason I just say not to, 'cause I knew Ken Shamrock was gonna be in there. And so I just shoot him when him get older and me, you know, with the shoe box. - Yeah, 'cause he was dangerous, you know. - What was even getting into that? What was that transition from? - Hey, we talked earlier, you did some boxing and then wrestling. And what was that blending of the arts, where it was the first time of, hey, here's a different type of fighting, where it's MMA. It's, hey, we're grappling and throwing fists. What was that first experience outside the UFC? - Well, you know, like I said, I wrestled in high school college, little international. And then after college wrestling, I did a year and a half pro boxing, had eight fights. I think it was, I was two, five, one, or two, or six. It was very good that, and it's hard. - Yeah, it's hard to pick up, you know, and lead my life. And then I got out and I just worked for a few years and my first marriage started going bad. So I found judo clubs, I started doing judo. You know, so I stayed away from the house. You know, it was, you know, there's a fireman when my days off, I was shooting horses, you know, and what a little time I had left to went to the judo club. And I released my, I released my frustration. - I truly love those poor guys. - Those poor guys, I know, yeah. - Oh God, yeah. - Yeah, don't surprise us. - Don't do that, don't do that. - He just hit tossing. - You still being a bitch, I'm gonna go shoot the horses and throw a guy across the road. - Get away from me. - You were telling us earlier, you were, I didn't know this about you were a firefighter for a couple of years in Los Angeles. - No, no, no, no, I said I started on Santa Fe in New Mexico. - Oh, okay. - I took a couple thousand colleagues for something, and somebody told me about being a firefighter, only working 10 days a month. I said well, that's a job for me. You know, 'cause I'm a homalazy son of a bitch. And so I took my EMT and got out the old phone book back then, you know, we had a phone book and went through every town in the city. There's nobody that's hiring. So then I called up Santa Fe in New Mexico, 'cause, you know, it's a capital of a state, so you figure they pay good. No, they didn't pay worth of shit, you know. I went down with there, they said, yeah, we're going about to run a test, you know, hire much people. So I went over there and passed everything and then went for the interview and he says, you know what, we pay this much a month, this comes out this much a week, comes out this much a day, which is about $4 an hour. Are you okay with that? I'm thinking these guys are full of shit. They're just here to see if I'm here for the money and I said, no, that sounds great, I just want to be farming. Got my first check. (laughing) And I holy balls, $4 an hour. (laughing) And I loved it there, it's beautiful. Santa Fe is beautiful. You know, people are great, but, you know, couldn't afford to live there. So I was there for about a year. You know, went through the academy, lived with the buddy's house and went through the academy and I was there for, like I said, for about a year and then we couldn't afford to live there anymore. Had to move my wife back home and I went off to Oklahoma Horseshoe and school and I was shoe horses and I came back and worked some odd jobs and I was trying to establish my business and then I started on the Fry Fire Department, no relation, you know? And as we serve and worked for them and then finally their position came open with BISB fire. So I got hired with BISB. - Nice man, that's wild. They couldn't even pay the people who were keeping your house from burning down enough to live in the town. - Yeah. - That's a fucking nuts man. - I'm noticing the recurring theme of, wife went home, you went to Oklahoma. (laughing) - I back up and leave her. (laughing) - Do you like a mouthful of hardwood? - Yes, go on. - Then boy do I have a product for you. - I'm reenlisting in the Navy. - No, not this time. - Oh, the product is fume. - What's fume? - It's an amazing device for those trying to kick those nasty habits. - When you said hardwood, you actually meant hardwood. - I'm sorry to disappoint, but yes, I mean literal hardwood. - I love hardwood in my mouth. - Wait, you know what's garrer than hardwood in your mouth? - Dying from cancer. - Fume has an award-winning design. - There's no battery, no chemicals, just flavored air. - Dile that air flow with the clickies. - When did you ever try it, maple pepper? - No, I like crisp mint because I'm a coward when it comes to flavors. - Cody, what's your favorite? - I don't know about flavor, but John C. Fume told me it was sexy and sleek. - That is a sexy and sleek piece of wood right there, Cody. - Oh yeah, put it in your mouth, suck that flavored air. - Quit cranking your wood on camera. - Start your guilt-free journey with the Good Habit and use code Unsub, where you can get a free gift with purchase and start your long overdue breakup. - Just head to trifume.com/onsub and use code Unsub to start your Good Habit today. - What, what year's we in Japan? - I see. I would say 97 to shit, 2008, damn, yeah. - During that period, what was it like being in Japan is the most aggressively American man on the planet going over there? - It was fun. It was a lot of fun. - What was the culture shock like the first time you were there? - Man, I know poor people. You walk down the street and it's like a bunch of zombies. Their eyes are dead. They just, they don't have a soul because they just had everything ripped from them after war or two, and they're just like no hope in their eyes, you know. But they come to the, they come to the wrestling matches or the fights and that's where they have their excitement. You know, they come alive. They come alive for that stuff. - That's awesome. Did you participate in some of the wrestling events like the pro wrestling side? - Yeah, I'm a pro wrestler for four years. - No shit. See that's, and that's a wild. So you have pro wrestling in Japan is very different than American pro wrestling. And those fighters, you're Sakurabas, like the Gracie Hunter, he was a wrestler, pro wrestler too, but also a fantastic fighter. How was that experience going over there? And like, hey, this is pro wrestling, but it's also legitimate on the side of, we can hurt, we can really hurt you. - It's more like fighting fighting over there. - Yeah, but it's stiffer. It's not, it's still a work, you know, but it's a stiffer. And I guess I got a little bit too stiff, and got a couple, you know, I give him a call to potato, you know, then if I give you a big potato, you would give me receipt, you know, and a couple of times the, got my neck broke. - No shit. - Yeah, that's a big potato. - Yeah, a big potato. - It's a hot potato. - I don't know my hands and knees, the guy stomped me and he stomped it and I heard it cracking. It don't sound good, yeah, fuck. And it worked on it for a year and a half. And then I started, you know, that's when, Notice this was going wrong this going wrong, and then finally got got the X-ray and the MRI And the doctor said well, you got a broken neck And he says you got to stop this shit, and this is well, I can't I got I got the Tokyo dome You know January 4th, and she says you can't do that. You got a broken neck. I guess it's you'll understand I work for the Japanese I gotta do it, you know Yeah, I call them up and says hey Doctor said I can't I can't wrestle you know on the fourth because I got a broken neck and you're Don't sign we know it's your your neck and your health at all, but we already advertised you think you can push it one more time Yeah, okay, the other guy at least kind of go easy on you knowing that you know how to kill you Yeah, how long was it between breaking your neck and getting the MRI and finding out you had broken your neck? I had broken I had broken it and it worked on it for a year and a half That's how dumb I am. You broke your neck and walked it off for a year and a half Well, that ain't the worst of it partner Okay, they've got on They fixed it in 2000 and then I you know went back to fighting in 2001 and then Let's see me May 2010 I broke it again in oh 8 roll 9 and May 2010 May 2011 Where am I getting the dates wrong? Well when my dates may be fucked up here, but anyways, I had not questioned it one year And one year I had five surgeries. I'm next surgeries and then I was good for a couple of years And then I had a truck accident my tire blew out Bounce me against the guardrail twice and piss me into the median, you know, I thought hey, I'm good You know I survived that I'm good to go, and my back started aching just a little bit Anyways two years later, I found I broke it in that in that accident again, you know, so I broke my back and These are like each individually like career ending injuries. Yeah That's a typical guy of I'm not going to the doctor. Yeah, I'm fine. Yeah, I'm fine Sir your spine's broken. I just take some pills and drink some alcohol. They don't walk it off I know you don't go to a checkup, but it'd be funny to take you to one and record it just to hear the doctor read your health chart out loud I see you broke your neck in 1999 and in 2008 and then you broke your back and then you broke your hand twice and yeah Well the first time I broke my neck was in 1986 back when I was in college, wrestling and Me and Dan Severn's younger brother Rod we went down to my house my parents house and we went out We were drinking and had those three-wielders. Oh, they're trapped. Yeah, oh the big reds. Yeah, yeah, and so the illegal thing So we're drinking and riding the thing and jumping and jumping and all this on this Course and we see some guys pull up, you know in their In their suits with the shoulder pads and elbow pads and gloves and helmets, you know I got one more. I won't boom boom boom broke my neck and didn't know that either. I didn't know that until 2001 when it when they fused when they fixed by broken neck for wrestling You know what they said? What would you would you break your neck the first time? So I didn't know I did you're good all right fin next time you calling for a sick day. You're gonna have to talk to HR. Okay It's like that it reminds me about the assassination now sick gets me The assassination of Jesse James for the guy tries to get up in the middle of the night. He pulls a pistol I just got to go to the bathroom. You think you do but you don't Every I've talked to a lot of you know first first generation MMA guys and pro wrestlers and stuff they all have a crazy story about going to Japan and Going out drinking with the Yakuza or something crazy happens after their fight in Japan. You got a story like that Not that I can remember. Oh, well, it must have been a good one What was one of the funnest nights in Japan like with that audience? You're like, I know you became friends I don't know if it was during pride or after with Takayama. Yeah, where you guys like did you ever party with him? No We didn't we didn't party because um, you know after after our fight. He went to the hospital, you know, yep, God bless him and I think he might have went to the party for a little bit but they kept us separated you know because you know after the after the party They sell they'll sell the tickets to people and there'll be a thousand people at these after parties. Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, they're all paying You know thousand dollars or what have you, you know to rub elbows with you And so, you know, you're there drinking and taking photos and all that good stuff Is that like a club type environment just like blasting music and you're hanging out with people? It's not in between somewhere, you know, because they have big buffet and you know, they have food and they have you know A lot of alcohol a lot of big socky barrels It's like the official after party. Yeah, right. Yeah, they have socky barrels. Yeah, oh, yeah, the Japanese love to drink. I'm sure you've seen the day I've seen the like the the viral videos online of the Japanese business men that just they're laying on the street after work because they got shit house Yeah, and there are people that come around and like bring them water and stuff and that's part of the culture It's like dude is fucking wow waking up at Sunday. We went to bed. We got drunk early passed out woke up early It's like six in the morning. I walked around just to a 7/11. There is shit wrecked old Japanese business man passed out in the stream Like what the fuck walk into 7/11 walk out and there's a old Japanese dude in a suit pissing in front of me. I was like Imagine that's just a culture where you're just like it's Sunday morning. It's like there's my dad Yeah, they go hard, especially they're very much just hey, I'm ABC. That's on Well, they worked their ass. That's it. Yeah party their ass off you got a small island. You know a lot of people and so there's Limited housing, you know limited space. So, you know, you can only buy so much electronics, you know equipment so much furniture so much clothes, you know, and So you have something to spend your money on you can't save enough money to buy a house out in the country So, you know that money's for entertainment and a fucking love entertainment Yeah, oh, no, is that with how the fight culture is over there because that's very different It sounds like for even the after party. It's everyone's paying money just to hang out socialize with you guys and you've just done Three fights and now we're drinking and party on over there. I only had to fight one once once a night Only only you only have to put yourself in the ring with one professional fighter at a time One professional that's what people. Oh, I can do that. No, you can't That's a professional athlete, you know, and he's trained he's trained to kick your head off But and this was this was still when there was no like weight classes. Oh, yeah pride. There's no weight class going in there Yeah, I can wild so have you ever seen the highlight of the Big daddy good rich the black guy and he gets the one dude in the crucifix and elbows him in the hands We're in like a white geek. That was round one of the tournament Don Frey caught it to fought him in the second round No, third third sorry, you fought him that night Yeah, yeah, so like you got to see him do that to somebody and then you went in the cage with him No, I missed that. I miss that Probably back my year left Yeah, if you guys have never seen that when that's crazy I forgot about that because you can see what what's the big black dude saying? Gary Goodridge Gary. Yeah, he really he's just like I forgot he realizes hey, I can just elbow this guy and just fucking There's the town on that is a 20 times. Oh Gary's cock strong man. He's like a horse, you know I'm getting hit by that guy in the temple of his elbow. How do you like my face to elbow style? Yeah Gary's a monster out there. It's so crazy though that when you were doing this fight in three times the night Gary had a Legendary highlight reel goes into another round the same night and then you end up beating him Yeah, so it's like I don't know. It's just weird. You could have Legendary highlight reel. I imagine that feels great to do and then you still end up losing at the end of the night So it's like still want to dub you know, yeah What'd you beat him with? He tapped. He's worn out. He's pretty much worn out because it was, you know, it was down the Puerto Rico. So you're talking 100% humidity. You're talking about 150 degrees underneath those lights, you know, so you're finding them. It's on them. Yeah, they didn't have AC. Puerto Puerto Rico didn't you hear? How much did you weigh at that time? I weighed 200 pounds at that time. I said it's 205. There's only 200. Gary was quite a bit bigger than he had the time he's probably closer to, yeah, 250, 260. Jesus Christ. Big size advantage when you watch him fight. Yeah, you get to see the discrepancy in those weights and you're on call. God, that's terrifying. Inesana. Yeah. Inesana. Probably working in his favor at that point though. Bigger dude wears out, especially if he's fighting three times enough. Are you on the bar on my ghost bed, Pilla? Does it smell like you? Yes. Do you feel that cooling technology? It's definitely not a hot pillow. I got to get out of here. Here's me, my pillow. 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Family owned and handcrafted in the USA. In Canada. Ew. Canada. Interested by thousands of happy sleepers. Like Cody. Brandon. [laughter] Keep that. And Nick. Yep. They have over 60,000 five star reviews. And you get an extra 10% off when you use code unsubscribe at checkout. Head over to ghostbed.com/unsubscribe to get started. That's ghostbed.com/unsubscribe. Use the code unsubscribe to sleep better and stay cooler. Which fight was it in all of that? We like fuck me. I have another fight to do after this one. [laughter] Which was the biggest like, probably after the second fight. [laughter] Okay, one more. One more and I'm done. You know, for the night. For the night. One more before I can clock out. For the month. Yeah, basically, we were fighting every couple of months back then. You know, that was February. Next fight was in May. And then the next fight was early July, and the next fight was September, and then December. And each one of those is how many fights per tournament if you do, like, the best you can't. Three? Yeah, three fights, yeah. So no matter what, every three months you're fighting. Three fights. I'm curious also, what was your recovery process like after one of those hardcore fights? Oh man, it was tough. You know, drinking a lot of water and hoping, you know, absorb it. Just laying in bed, like watching TV and drinking water. Nothing fits as a brooking at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it at home? It took two weeks to recover if you didn't get hurt, if you did not get hurt. Jesus. You just try to relax as much as possible. But no, yeah, the wife. Yeah, it's like, yeah, this sounds really stupid, okay? And I don't mean to demean you, but it's like coming back from war, you know. You got a deescalator in there, coming out of prison, you know, something like that, you know, you equated to that. Because, you know, all your time when you're training, you know, you're training 24 hours a day, eat, sleep, you know, train, everything is calculated for, you know, six weeks, six eight weeks, you know, and then boom, you hit it, and then boom, it's all gone. It's over. It's super interesting. I never thought about that. It is, hey, I'm focusing for the sole purpose. Your entire, your hyper fixated, hyper focused on that event for those three fights, your elevated testosterone, everything's elevated. And then it's, right, it's gone. And then empty. You're like, okay, what do I do? Yeah, that would be a weird, yeah, coming off of that, coming off, yeah, coming off prisoner, coming, you know, coming back from military, exactly, yeah, T.V. wire, yeah, I'm, you just, you're, you're sitting there going, you know, now what, you know, you know, what, where am I doing, where am I at, and then I'm just getting reinstalled into society because you, you know, you remove yourself from society when you're training for six or eight weeks, you know, because everything is just about the fight game. You know, I mean, what's T.V. we were just watching fights, you know, I mean, that's your downtime is watching fights. And otherwise, you know, you're, you're jogging, you're in the bag, you're lifting weights, you know, you're wrestling, you're sparring, you know, other than that, you know, or you're fucking, you know, that's, that's the only releases on a race. I'll come on sweet. I'm not going to lie, dummy. You're a girl. I had to throw the blazing saddles. Let's play chess. It's pretty, too. Brother, you're not, you're not, you're not. Scott, that looking as I like all the horses have been shoot. Oh, no. We just pushed Brandon down hungry. I wanted to ask you also, like, what do you, what do you do to relax these days? You a hunter, like, you still playing around with horses. I had a hundred and a decade at my back. Okay. My back's still bad. And I'm too, only undisciplined and too lazy to go to gym and, you know, get it fixed. And, um, too cheap to go to the car, well, car Patrick can't do anything for me because, you know, I got this much of my back is shoes in 11 levels. So, can't, can't do anything. What's your relaxed time, then, man? What do you do? I got English bulldog named Quinn. Just chill. Yeah, me, Quinn and I, excuse me, hang out and fart on each other. And, uh, and then my girlfriend Lisa, she's got an animal rescue. So we go over there and I shove a lot of goat shit, you know, and water, water goats and horses all day long. Nice, man. Dude, what going back to just that mindset when you're coming out of a fight camp after the fight? Is it, are you hit with depression ever? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And so it's like looking at you and how you talk about exact same feeling of, man, okay, you actually go through stage of depression. I don't have a mission. What am I, am I worth anything? And that's after you came out, like, winning and still have that mindset wild, but also shows how that can affect you. We're like, no mission. Now you're like, yeah, it's that singular focus that you had. Right. This much time. And now it's gone. Yeah. The other thing I'm curious about is because like, you knew you were going to do it all over again in three months. Yeah. So I mean, what's your motivation? Be like, well, I don't want to start anything else new because I got to go through all this bullshit again in three months. So you're just kind of sitting there, twiddling your thumbs, like, fuck, you know what I mean? Like imagine if you went on a deployment and you had two months off before you had to go into pre-mob again. Oh, no. That's right. You're like, uh, and then afterwards is you're also trying to, how do I scale past this? I won. But what's the next step? Right. Right. Well, I mean, for like a set for two weeks, you're in depression, you know, because it's like you haven't had the rug pulled off or anything. Yeah. You know, everything you everything you were and there are was taking away from you, you know, even if you want to lose. And then like you said, you had to start all over again. You know, you look forward. You look forward to that next assignment, you know, I bet like that's that mode. I guarantee that's why you kill the even harder like coming right back into it. Did you train harder? Oh, yeah. The heads of it. When Coleman, when Coleman beat the hell out of me, you know, I just I was obsessed with that fight. I watched it every day. I watched it every day for probably three two or three years, you know, until I find that a go, you know, and that was hard. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Because you go back and you know, I made this mistake here. It's that what if I did this? Well, I woke up sick that day. Yeah. The night before I told Art Davie, you know, he wanted me to fight Gary first round. I said, bullshit. You know, I just fought him, you know, three months ago, you know, in the finals. So give me somebody else. Give me somebody easier. He needs me on the other side or something. And so I said, "You know, I'm not gonna fight him. He says, "Well, we'll see about that." And I said, "Well, you know, I'm not feeling good. I don't feel good. I mean, I had to pull out." You know, "Yeah, I'm a choreographer here. You're going to have to fucking HR about." HR break his kneecaps. Yeah, you're going to have to fucking HR about that. HR break his kneecaps. You're talking to a teacher. I'm talking to a client now. Baylif, whack his peepee. Give me that phone now. Don's going to make my mom come here and get it for me, guaranteed. So what was your training camps like when you were doing? Because like, now it's, you got the UFC Performance Center. These guys aren't eating a single grain, a grain of rice that isn't planned by a dietitian. It's all super scientific and they've got chiropractors and medical professionals on staff. It's all on your own, you know. So you're just out there doing rocky shit in the barn? Yeah, yeah. I'm ready to beat the f*** out of people. Well, that's why I had my heavy bagged it on the barn. And then I'd go running, go running through the hills, you know. I'm lucky I got a real real nice place. A couple acres right at the Basin Mountains. So I'd go running through the desert in the mountains and then go down to the weight room and I had a bunch of good guys. Sam Satello, he was from a Marine family. Ritz Marino, he was an ex-Marine. Rainy Martinez, he was a former sniper in the seals. You know, Steve Owen was the coach. He was a judo sensei. He was a stud. He's like a seventh degree back belt, you know. He's just a stud. You're just hanging out with hard motherf***er all day. Oh, yeah. That's awesome, man. And so they were always there for me, you know. Any time, any time. They showed up at two o'clock in the morning for me one time, you know. Yeah, it's a good group of boys. Yeah. You can't remember. Damn. Back when you were still training for the fights back in the day, we just still drink. Oh, you bet your ass. I needed a calories. I cut calories. It's impossible to find calories elsewhere. Yeah, it is. I kind of figured that might be the answer. There's a pork chop in every can, okay. It's a loaf of bread. I said, yeah, they go over bread. I know. God, I'm trying my blanking on his name, golf. Oh, daily. Yeah, John daily. Yeah, the John daily of fighting. Oh, shit, he is the John daily. We're not finding. Oh, we should. I managed, I ate about 8,000 calories a day. You know, well, I was trained because I mean, it's 24 hour job, you know. But when my kids were born, you know, I could be in town, you know, finished one workout. And it would take 45 minutes, get to my house, you know. And then 45 minutes are an hour to get to the next spot, you know, from the house, whereas there'd only be like 20 minutes from where I was at, you know, I would go home just to see my kids for 10, 15 minutes. You know, I'd spend 45 minutes on the road there to get there 15 minutes and 45 minutes, you know, just just to see my kids, you know, while they were awake, you know, because that was, I was gone that much. Right. Training. I don't think a lot of people realized the dedication to be at that level, especially when it's a new sport. A brand new sport. And then you're, what was, how'd that first call from a pride UFC go about? What was the first offer? Like, hey, do you want to do this? For the UFC, you know, like I said, I got hold of Dan seven in the B seven and the B seven, you know, he's got another OG. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's great. And he gave me a few fights across the country. I'm still waiting on the paycheck from him, you know. Damn, what the fuck? Yeah. So wait on the paycheck. Yeah, say the unsub podcast calls out Dan. So I'm talking to HR. Oh, yeah. This is your complaint box. Do you want to support you another one? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Too easy. Sure. Same stuff. Yes, sir. Please. And, you know, Dan was getting ready for the first ultimate ultimate, you know, because he had one, he had placed second in number four and one number five. And then lost in a super fight against Shamrock in number six. Yeah, number six. And so he got ready for ultimate, first ultimate ultimate. So I went up there on my days off for the fire department and trained with him, you know, and I was just his chief throwing dummy. He was tossing me around, you know, he means thank you. You get guys that would come in. They'd, oh, I want to help train you, you know, for the UFC, you know, above, you know, they'd be there once and then they'd disappear and they'd never come back. So you were probably fucking them up, right? No, I mean, it's just several, several fucking. He was out of the forces to shoot. So, so I was like I said, I was just his chief throwing dummy. And so then we went to the first ultimate ultimate and it was in Denver and he introduced me to the to the UFC people. And then, uh, sometime in January, they called me up and said, hey, you know, we got a fight February 8th, you want to do it? Yeah, you bet your ass. So, you know, we went to that fight in Puerto Rico. No, it's awesome. And then to see where is now, I bet it's Mike blowing. Oh, it's crazy because they had said at the arena there in Puerto Rico, and they had those, you know, blue plastic tarps as wall subwritten, you know, the big, the big clothes line, and blue tarp, subwritten for your locker room, you know. And, uh, and now they got everything. I mean, how we didn't have scale? We didn't weigh in. You know, they just took your word for your weight. What the fuck for the fights? Why? I mean, if there's no weight classes, how much you weigh? Okay. Maybe straight up modern day gladiators. Brandon! Brandon! Cut a column, the one word. Win a K-50! I sense the disturbance in the force. What's up? How do you like those turtle beast noise canceling headphones? They're the stealth 700. They're fantastic. The noise canceling is so good all I hear is tenitis. Ah, God, these are comfortable. They're really comfy. Yeah, those are dope. Turtle beach makes them range ear pro. You went January actually, Cody actually like put those on. Dude, those are legit comfortable. Turtle beach, what you doing over there girl? You make it so hot as stuff. Like your squishies. 3D spatial audio to improve your gaming that will work really good in tarcov, your people's footsteps, and in pub G. I can't wait to use a turtle beach headset to listen for footsteps in tarcov running the new AK-50 while I get still killed from a woodline for can't see. What? Eli, there's a global cabal that's working behind the scenes to control all media and that's why we should have never gone off the gold standard. Hey, hold on, hold on. 80 hour battery life. Holy s**t, there's a lot of switches. Can't stress enough how comfortable these are and if you've been in a long gaming session, which I'm sure all of us have, unfortunately. I wear adult diapers when I play World of Warcraft. You should be euthanized. Also controls headphones. Great. This. Game hard. Head to Turtle Beach and use code unsub for 10% off your entire order. That's 10% off your entire order at Turtle Beach dot com with using code unsub. After your purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. Please support unsub and tell them where you got them. Tell them unsub since they're regards. The other part too is like now in the UFC. It's like they call a UFC fighter. They're like, we want you to fight this person and they know who that person is and those guys that are like, no, I don't want to fight that guy. Really? I do want to fight that guy or if I'm going to fight that guy, I need this much money and you're just over here like, sure, I'll fight three f**king random dudes on February 8th. Did they was there really like a betting culture around fighting at the time? Well, I'm sure there was. I'm sure there was. Because now the only reason I ask is because now like everything so stats heavy. It's like this guy's fighting it this way. Here's his record. Here's his reach. Here's his, you know, everything. They've got all these stats and people use that to like bet on fights. I didn't know how the f**k it would work back then. I don't know either because you know, just you just pick a name. I guess. Yeah. That guy seems right. Yeah. I like the sound of his name. What the hell? You got seven letters. That guy might look tougher than the other guy. We'll pick him. Right. You're talking about hey, I don't want to like that guy out the gate. Let's put him at the end of it. So if you guys meet, it makes a better title fight. - That was, well that was Big Daddy Goodrich and he had beat him in the final on the previous show. So that he's like. - Why fight again? - Yeah, you don't put-- - You don't put first round. - You don't put both number one seeds in the first game in the tournament. - Right, number one, number two. Yeah, you don't put him in there to the fight in first round. - What was the response to that? Oh, did they actually, oh, that does make sense. You don't put him down and then-- - I got a phone call from the owner, Bob Marowitz. And he says, listen to me, I'm not gonna have no God damn athlete tell me I'm gonna run my show. He says, I'm gonna change it just this one time. You know, (laughing) - But you still, you're like, yeah. - You don't ever expect it again, you know. But no, it was silly. We fought the finals and they wanted us to go to the first round, it was silly. - He called you an athlete like a slur. (laughing) God damn, athlete. - Well, he is from Manhattan, yeah. (laughing) - Holy shit, what was in your entire career, what was the hardest fight for you? Were you like this? Mountain, that's the one, that fucking sucked. - Oh, that'd be the Coleman fight. You know, first Coleman, both Coleman fights I lost. But the second fight, I really wasn't there, but the first Coleman fight. You know, I was like, I said, I woke up sick and I just went downhill from there. And we even thought about pulling out, you know, after the second fight, man, I'm done. I got nothing left. And you know, I looked at the alternates. And if I had to pull it out and they'd send in one of them alternates, there wouldn't be any UFC after that. And they'd close it down, 'cause they were trying to shut it down as it was. - No doubt. - Yeah. They would, like in UFC eight, they spent all day in the courthouse, you know, trying to keep it going. Because the governor was going to shut a Puerto Rico, was going to shut it down. - 'Cause there was a lot of, like this is human cockfighting. It was everyone fighting it. Now it's so mainstream, people don't know. It was a huge-- - Now it's going to be on the front lawn of the White House, you know? - Yeah, I was just about to say to go in that short of time from something that was trying to be outlawed in fucking Puerto Rico of all places. - You're right. - To something that the president of the United States routinely attends. - You're right. - That's a crazy jump in that short of a time span. - Oh, I got it. - Well, people don't realize, like MMA is safer than boxing. - Yes, yes. - Yeah, you want to get knocked out once, or you want to get knocked out, knocked out three fucking times and have the opportunity to stand back up. Like how many MMA fights would have kept going if somebody had a 10 count to stand back up and go back in again? You know what I mean? - The seats, if you get knocked out once and then you get knocked out three more times, back to back to back, that's so bad for you. - And you're getting up. - Some of those big fights. - I mean, you look at like the Mickey, like, man. There's a handful of boxing fights when you watch. - It is. - Two of the greats. - The greater one. - There we go. - Yeah, that was cool. That was so slick. - Yeah, talk to him. Like actually get a chance to chat. - You know what? I choked. (laughing) I mean, I really think it allowed really nasty first impression. So I was gonna screw it up, man. (laughing) I just see us, sir, no sir, no sir. And I get the hell out there, you know, for my buddy. So I want to screw it up for him. So he gets his photo taken. - It's kind of funny to see, 'cause to my understanding, Trump is a very big, just, he's a big fan of athleticism in the area. Like sports and things like that. He just follows it, like whether it's golf, MMA or whatever. It's funny to see the people who show up around him who are very clearly, like I won't name any names, but like pencil pushers that have no interest in watching collateral combat. - No idea, yeah. - Just watching the difference between how invested Trump is and like the people to his left and right sometimes, depending on who he brings. - Right, right. - That's funny. - I also think you make great first impressions, Don. We've already hired you to beat the fuck out of our interns. - Yeah, HR, it's official. - I don't know, you'd hire anybody for that. - I think the opening line wins. - Finn could fuck up a two car funeral. - That's what we're good to. - We're good, boy. - You're gonna die, man. - I'm like, what do I do, Don? - So I asked you at breakfast, you got two daughters. - Yeah. - To which I immediately said, "What was it like the first time they brought a boy home?" And you got kicked out of the house. - I was already kicked out of the house, yeah. - Who's your dad? - No one. - No one. - We'll talk about that. - Who's your dad's name? - Why don't you tell me your dad's name? - His nicknames, The Predator. (laughing) - Well, the last name of Fry should give some concern. Oh, man. - Oh, hell, man. - You got kicked out? - I got kicked out. My youngest daughter, her, I guess they don't talk about it, you know, 'cause my youngest daughter, her boyfriend didn't know anything about me, you know, for a while until my friend says, "Do you know who her dad is and what he did?" No, you know, sit down, let me show you this D-E-D. - Yeah, I was about to say him walking into your house, seeing like a trophy here in a ribbon there, and just like, "I don't have those." - Oh, fuck, I don't have those. - You don't? - No, no. They all disappeared in the divorce. (laughing) - A lot of my shit just is worth it, worth it. - Half of it. - That's said, I do be a very, - Oh, worth it, that's worth it. - I do be happy, I do be happy. - A rude awakening though for that guy. - Yeah. - Oh, shit. I'm alive because he wills it to be so. (laughing) - I can't break up with her. - I tell you what, if they can handle my daughters, then I'm nothing. (laughing) - I'll tell you. - Imagine getting compared to your father-in-law like that, your whole life. - Yeah. - You know, my dad would have done blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I bet. (laughing) - My dad can beat your dad up. I know. (laughing) He got it. (laughing) - I understand that. (laughing) - Yeah, I know her bottle other than that. - There was one such a funny picture. It was like a normal dude's, like 50 followers, normal guy's Instagram. Bigger, stockier, black dude, and he's very obviously at like a middle school wrestling tournament, sitting on the chair on the mat, coaching his kids, and he just takes a selfie like this, and in the background is Daniel Cormier. Looking at the mat and he goes, "Man, Daniel Cormier is the other team's coach. What the fuck am I supposed to do?" (laughing) Just like when viral. (laughing) - He's through. - Yeah. (laughing) - What are some of, like now with modern MMA UFC, who are some of your big favorite fighters to watch? - I like Pereira, you know, like what's in him. You know, I think he was sick the last fight. You know, I saw him the night before. I just thought he was in the zone, you know, 'cause he was focused. He's quiet, you know, he was real stoic, and you know, just, but he nicely sat in the world. Took pictures. He took pictures for over half an hour with anybody who wanted to take a picture with me, you know, on him. And he was on his way to go get dinner. - And the night before the fight. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, gave up all that time. But, and I thought he was focused, going to win, until I saw him walk out. And I saw him walking out, there's something wrong with this guy's off. You know, then I wanted to change my, wanted to change my opinion, you know. - No, there was watching some of those skinnier guys like him with unlimited cardio fight. That's some of the best fucking fights to watch, man. I have all that energy. Who else like any of the heavyweights? - No, I'm, God dang it. - Who's the guy from Arizona? - God dang it. I can't believe I can't remember his name. - Which weight class? - Like a middleweight, a lighter middle. - Gachy. - Just a Gachy? - Yeah, he's awesome. - He's great. - That's him and Tony Ferguson. It's probably my favorite UFC fight all the time. - That's a great fight. - Because it was, the craziest part is, when you go back and watch it now, 'cause I got reused to normal UFC fights. During COVID, there was no audiences. - Right. - So it just sounds different. When Justin Gagey fought Tony Ferguson and it's just dead quiet, 'cause there's no audience, Justin Gagey hits like a fucking truck. And he hit Tony Ferguson a lot. And it's just, every strike sounds like a fucking car crash. - Is that the COVID fight when there was an audience? - Yeah. - And I mean, he beat the shit out of Tony Ferguson. It was bad. But like I said, you could hear the impact of every fucking strike and holy shit. - It changed the fighting and watching it for that brief time 'cause it did feel like you're watching a snuff film. - Yes, something you knew. - You were like, oh, there's no cheer. Oh, I don't know. You just hit. - This isn't a sporting event. This is just two grown men trying to kill each other. - I get honest. - Oh, it's funny. It was like 50 years ago, Terry Funk and Justin Gagey, very long or had the empty arena match, you know, for wrestling or empty arena match. - Like what? - And it was just, it was ridiculous, you know, 'cause it was empty. And it was just those two doing their normal wrestling shit, you know, with nobody there. And then-- - Totally different vibe. - Yeah, and then 50 years later, it actually happens in real life, you know. - Shit. I'm curious what you think about Sean Strickland. - He's funny, you're shit. - Yeah, I kind of figured that would be the answer. - He's funny, you're shit, I love him, man. I gotta kick out of that boy. - He's probably my favorite fighter to follow on Twitter. - Yeah? - Yeah, just the shit he says, the shit he says in interviews and whatnot, he's just, he's no filter. - None at all, he's really-- - A bunch of guys from Dirk and Berkistan, wrestling fucking everybody, the interview about like, oh, how do I say what in Chinese? Oh, how do I say? Work harder, child. I'm starting my own merch line. - Yeah, but say these things. - Oh, he's squirrely, yeah, yeah, he's got it down, man. I, if something shit that comes out of his mouth is him, it gets me, you know. (laughs) But he's funny, he's got a good stick on. I really enjoy him. I think he's great. And, you know, wishing him most success. - Oh my God, he's keeping, keeping him around, you know. - Hey, guys, do you wanna see something? - Not again. Those are true classics. - Oh, you wanna touch it, Brandon? 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(laughs) - No, on the whole whole. - That's not in a while. - We have a recurring bit that we do with some of our bigger guests. - Yeah. - We have a pretend superhero group, and we all have different superpowers. - Yeah. - We pick your own superpower, but we get to pick the offset. So for example, Cody can fly, but in order to fly, he has to yell racial slurs. - The entire time. (laughs) - He's a frequent flyer. (laughs) - We get to. - Well, we like to joke with that, and it's like, what if I'm having to rescue a bunch of kids from a section eight housing development? Like it's on fire. (laughs) - I just gotta bring in the ladder. - Or today's a wrap. - I'm just carrying a ladder at that point. - Yeah. - I'm not flying today. (laughs) - Yeah, I did my house. (laughs) - So it's 20 years ago, I was gonna paint a doby, but somewhere you got screwed up and it'd be an orange, like those numbers there. You know, yeah, that color orange. And so, you can find it. You can find it, you know, it just looked for the orange house, and a new neighbor moved in, and put up a wall, and then painted his wall, the same colors my house. And I said, well, I thought I'd get a section eight housing coming in. (laughs) He looked at me like I fell off and trolled at that. - So what's your superpower gonna be? - Oh shit. - Any superpower you want. - Any superpower I want. - Yes. - Oh man. - Well, I think the caveat is, if somebody already has that power, they have to fight you to keep it. - Yeah, don't get any superpower you want. - Yeah. (laughs) - There's gets changed. - God dang it, super power. That would be, let's see. - Either I get, what do they do? - No, I just have a little closer to you. - Scoot around. - I sure do. I'm moving. - Oh, you're good. You're good. - I got a little too silly. - Yeah, yeah. - I like everyone's relaxed, perfect. - Everybody, bouncing around here. That's, it would be either seeing through women's clothes or being able to have an erection as long as I want. Anytime I want. - We'll give you both, don't you? - Yeah. (laughs) - What a killer combo. - Your wife gets half the power in the divorce. - Yeah. (laughs) - That was awesome. (laughs) - He could kind of see through women's clothes. - She took that, believe me, she took that. - That's a half-chubby all the time. - Yeah, yeah. (laughs) - He's just disappointed. (laughs) - It's almost there, but it's not. - He's like, yeah, he's higher zero, but the ability is gone. - It's not you. (laughs) - Not you honey, that's where it's made. - All right, it's not me. - It's not me. - This is the best way possible. It was my ex, my ex. (laughs) - You don't understand honey. (laughs) It's not you or me, it's her. - The defender is ahead, don. - Don, go, go in the corner. (laughs) - Don't. - Don't. - Stop looking, don't. - Stop it. - Stop it. - Oh man, it's bad day to be a super villain. It's gone fry with half an erection. (laughs) - And super powers don't even have anything to do with his ability to fight crime. He'll just beat your ass. (laughs) - We just get him drunk. (laughs) - What are you gonna do, break my back? (laughs) - People have tried. - He broke my back, broke my neck, yeah, okay. So I've got two fake shoulders that's been done. Fake hand has been done. - It's your card. - Bionic man, at this point, Jesus. (laughs) - Shit. - I love this thing. - Except it's the UFC, we have to rebuild him. - What is, (laughs) - He's gonna be hornier. (laughs) - We can rebuild him stronger, faster, hornier. (laughs) - Say what that does to him. - What are the conversations with the surgeons go like? When they tell you, I don't know, you probably shouldn't fight anymore after the second time breaking your neck and back, or nothing ever gave me that, you know? - They just gave up. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, they gave me that story. - I'd like to think it was the same surgeon and like the fourth time you're in there, he's just smoking a cigarette. (laughs) - Oh, you, yeah, huh. - The Ben Affleck, just, yeah. - God damn it. - God damn it. - Put down my neck, yeah. (laughs) - Listen here, fucker. - We gotta talk this thing through. - I've been rewatching Landman. - Have you ever seen a Ben Affleck? - Yeah, I remember, he smashes his pinky with a hammer and the surgeon comes in. He's like, "Doctor, I don't want this son of a bitch "any morning, he pulls a pocket knife out." I imagine that's you in there. Like, "I'm fine, don't worry about it." - I need to watch this show. - Oh, yeah. - No, no, no, no. - Take out a shared and can't keep getting away with this. - He's doing too good of stuff. - Do it, do it, do it. - He's amazing, the shitty comes up with that. - Bro, fucking Ticario. - Yeah, yeah, that's a great show. - Ticario, Yellowstone, 1883, 1923. Hella high water. - Wind river. - Wind river. - Landman, Tulsa King, like the guys everywhere. - It's fucking insane. - Can't keep getting away with this. - Yeah, it's fucking wild. - He was taking it as like a personal scene. - He bought that four and that four, six is ranch. - Yeah, dude. - Is that great? - And then, oh, and then he did the best thing ever. He leases the ranch out to his show that he owns. - Yeah, yeah. - He's brilliant. - He's brilliant. - He's a text man. - Yeah. - Making a good chunk of change. - Oh, yeah, great to show. - I don't have them pay for it, you know? - Crime, you guys brilliant. - And the chunk of change you needed to have to buy the four sixes in the first place. - Yeah. - Dear God. - Which is, wow, too, he didn't start off till he was like, early 40s, he had some small roles in Hollywood here and there. And then he just came out of nowhere riding all these fucking shows we just talked about. - It happens, you get those later starts in life and then it's just like. - I think he just witnessed Hollywood and you witnessed everything around him for years and then he poured all his time. - He's tired of him. - Yeah, he's just tired of it and then poured his time and his knowledge into it. - He's crushing it. - To say the least, he can't keep getting away with this Taylor Sheridan. (laughing) - But please do. - But if you do, if you do, I need a role. - No, no. I'll just love to die on yeah exactly man. That's what I've been saying like all of us just died. I'm talking about another horse Can I be random freshman don's just paid in horses? Let me take the one from the show Oh, yeah, you see them horses that bald face these days on that show on y'all's own is a beautiful horse Yeah, god damn it. I want don't find it here. I share it in shell. I love I love how you randomly write some self-in-a-shit too Like hell or high water. It's like the detectives are going out They're trying to find the bank robbers and and share it and just pulls up on his horse and he's like just passing through They just he just writes himself in there randomly. It's like he's like the Tarantino of Westerns Yeah, I need somebody be the the super cool guy for a pro except Tarantino is just like I need somebody to say the N word and lick feet There needs to be a character to lick feet right now. It's me. I'm gonna play that care Any volunteers Depending on the feet you're looking though, you know Do you see if that fucking that it was like the acceptance speech for like? I don't know if the Oscars or something where it's Brad Pitt talking about one spot of time in Hollywood I'd like to thank my co-stars lean-order to Caprio Margot Robbie's feet this actress's feet T-Ratino has his the Bruce Lee's family. It was like I think they were pissed off about that movie. Oh Because I think the inspiration for that scene was because a judo jean labelle Yeah, because I guess back in the day, you know judo jean right judo jean just badass judo guy I think he was like one of the first Americans to get a black belt and judo. Oh, yeah, just a complete badass He was a if you ever see the videos where Ronda Rousey's highlight and it shows an old man Balding with red hair and a stopwatch because she won in like seven seconds. That's judo jean labelle He was one of her coaches. He used to wear pink. He Complete badass. It's just the best people often just to fuck with him is give his pink. I like this guy even more There's a little story me and John used to wear pinkies. Oh really? Yeah, I thought I'm don't know it I thought it was a funny thing to do and you all would hold hands a skip too. Yeah Boy Orgis were actually skirts, but it's fine That's the fun for you wouldn't let the the mimosa joke go with the whole like you need a skirt How about a pink skirt But uh there's a story. I don't know how true it is But allegedly there was some movie that Bruce Lee was doing and he was kind of being a dick to the stuntman and extras really hitting him Harder than he needed to be and they sent in jean labelle who was a stuntman at the time and they sent jean in to correct the behavior Apparently jean just picked him up over his head and walked him around till he settled down. He couldn't do shit about it Yeah, it's like with a toddler. Yeah, like no, no, you're not gonna do this and I guess that supposedly that was the inspiration for that scene of a stuntman You had to take in it to well, basically He also did that the steve is to go steve is to go really cheap shots on onto the stuntman So judo judo jean choked him out Get your shit him out. Wait, was that when he should have spanked? Yes. Yeah, that's where he should have spanked And then judo mustache on his face because jean jean were always put a mustache on people's faces after he choked him out Oh, yeah Hold on a pause So steve is to go on this guy Stephens being a dick this guy chokes him out. Yeah, jean was probably 60 70 years old at the time And then he a 60 70 year old judo master choke steve it's a gall out and then drew a mustache on him. Yeah He's awesome Do you guys remember that cool last TV show steve Stephens a gall was on where he pretended to be a cop? Oh god Is that the one where he's sitting down in a chair fighting people? I was just gonna bring that one out That was so fun. That was a movie. There was for at one point. There were here's like I've been deputized by this department and I'm a it's like a live PD kind of thing And it's just it's terrible. Fucking steve is to go all pretending to be a cop. No, it's actual like live action like Yeah, it's caught me real life. Oh, oh, this isn't it. No, it's not a show like I'm not a scripted show Steven's a gall was like deputized me so I can have a reality TV show And then it's wild You should you should be on the other side. I'm gonna check into it. No, any of those Steven's a gall movies if you haven't watched He still does them and he still writes them and they are there's just all produced a lot of trash in your god If you do just the recaps of them so it's like 15 minutes long Just comedy gold. I would see those block points. Don't it operator reacts to Steven's a gall's Cop show remember Remember when Steven Seagull when Anderson Silva knocked out V-Tor Bell for it with a front snap kick And then Steven Seagull's like I'm the one that told Anderson Silva to do that in the back room He took credit for Anderson Silva's like amazing It's like one of the best knockouts of all time is this front snap kick clean on the john just drops V-Tor Bell for it And Steven Seagull's like yeah, it was the one that recommended he do that maneuver actually Yeah, okay Anderson walked out winning a couple of times, you know afterwards man What are you doing? Maybe maybe everyone just loved him because we grew up on his movies. Yeah, that's what it felt for the bullshit Well, yeah, it put a lot of us on the like martial arts because I remember the one where he's on the ship Well, I'm your famous undersea. Yeah, yeah, on the submarine or the navy seal that got reassigned or some shit Yeah, I remember watching that and being like I want to learn how to kick people There was nothing better than like what did you join the Navy because because of Steven Seagull? No So that all too fast There's nothing better than back when Spike TV was still a thing is like Tuesday night at midnight the Steven Seagull movie marathon You fall asleep watching TV you wake up. He's gained 80 pounds Still playing They just die That face Spike TV is how I would hang out with my dad after work. Thank you That's that's what I was thinking about like waking up Saturday Sunday morning dad's cooking breakfast and fucking a Steven Seagull movie is on Spike TV in the morning Yes, we're watching Independence Day Holy shit What would you do all that shit? Were you big in a martial art movie's going up or westerns? I'm more westerns. Yeah, John Wayne Clint Eastwood fan. Yeah. Oh geez. What are your favorites? Oh True grit true grit the John Wayne true grit. Yeah, I like the Jeff Bridges true grit to it. I think it's a it's a better Overall movie, but he still just couldn't mess up the John Wayne Even when he played in the exact opposite, you know, we're John Wayne's Ceiling and you know loud drunk, you know, I'm not just drunk. You know, he was just some drunk mumbling, you know, full and But they both they both did a great job and But you know, you can't be he can't beat the Duke can't beat the Duke true and then Clint Eastwood Yeah, yeah, can't be Clint Eastwood good bad ugly. Yeah, well Clint Eastwood. He wasn't even supposed to be an actor, right? Wasn't he the a stage hand or a grip or something? No, that was that was John Wayne. That was John Wayne What he was he was a stage hand and And I didn't know this. Yeah, he was a stage hand for John Ford and then John Ford took the liking to him And put him in a couple of movies, you know, as extra and then he got he started doing the Three musketeers three musketeers, you know, and Then he started doing much of other other small movies and he finally John Ford got him the stage coach Oh shit. Yeah, I thought I could have sworn Eastwood was like that too though. I didn't know John Wayne was like the early army was one Go from full metal jacket his iconic role in full metal jacket Apparently there was some other actor that was supposed to do the drill sergeant role. Yeah, he's Early army was like the guy who's teaching him out of be a fucking drill sergeant there. Finally. He's just like yeah you come here now you Be this guy. Well, he's scheme to he he's scheme to really still a lot so I didn't I didn't know this part Yeah, yeah, he was because he was a bit part guy, you know, he was a helicopter pilot and Apocalypse now and but yeah once once he he was training He was showing the actor how to How to be the drill sergeant but yeah, he is the back of his mind the whole time to steal the part nice and for a Stanley Cureberg movie dude to have Cureberg Be like I want you and yeah Instantly hey fame is going to fall. He also was a he was a miss. He's amazing. He made them feel like a piece of shit They've got an action figure early in reaction figure, you know the sergeant, you know, I got to get one Got to find one does it yell racial slurs They're cool, they're the TV sensor versions crazy. It's funny though, because my grandfather on my mother's side was a Korean War vet. But he had a stroke later in life, and so growing up around him, he couldn't really speak, and he's wheelchair bound, whole left side of his body didn't really work that well, but we would bond on all he wanted to do all day was watch John Wayne movies. And so that's just all he did all day is he had a massive collection of John Wayne movies. And that was just his thing. Yeah, my grandfather, on my dad's side, he served in Europe in war or two, and when the German surrendered, they sent him over to Japan, you know. And then my uncle, my dad's brother, he was a Marine in Korea, and then a Green Brae in Vietnam. And my dad was an Air Tomato in Vietnam, and I dropped the ball, you know. You were the smart one, so I always say, my 40th year in, my 40th work day, my dad puts his arm around, says, you know, they've raised the enlistment age. After all this shit you've done in life, yeah, all my back hurts so bad. I would love to, but my back, you know, broke, you know, I didn't know it. You could have just showed up to any enlistment office ever, and just shown your, your surgical history, and they're like, no, I don't like, you know, what, 'cause I didn't think I was ever mad enough being a Marine, I wanted to be a Marine, but I never had fun. So you chose professional modern gladiator instead? I know, I wanted to be a Marine or a Green Brae, you know. So I instead decided because I'm not mad enough to do that, to beat up professional fighters for a living. That's not the easy way you do it. What does it mean, you know, I thought, that if I wouldn't be Marines, I'd broke my heart then I'd just, I fucking, I don't know, man. Damn it, I could have made it. Yeah. I could have been number two at least. You could have been a cop. You could have been a fireman. That's a smart way, man. That's what I've been telling my son recently, 'cause he's 16, he's gonna head off to college in a couple of years. I've been telling him, why don't you just be a firefighter, and while you're at the station not doing the firefighter EMT thing, you just, you go to school, and you take your classes, right? If the classes work out, just get jacked, be a firefighter somewhere nice. That's what I was saying, too. Be a firefighter on like a coastal town, like a beach, like a nice beach town, so there's like college girls just rotating out all the time, and work out, fucking just go to school, make a paycheck. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me, man. Oh, it's a good job, it's a great job, just the DEI got in real fucking way and screwed up everything, man. Luckily, that only happened with firefighters, oh god, I can't wait out about that. I mean, just see that moose in LA, this is, well, if I had to pull a man out of fire, it's just fall for being in the fire. Yeah. I can't go sweetheart. Yeah. How do you see that moose? That's probably the hardest left hook you've thrown in a lot. That fucking moose. That fucking moose. I didn't see bull moose. I held it back, I held the reins back. How is this, this new wave of social media being involved in, is it, is it wild, especially now, like your older in life, is it, like what the fuck is going on? Oh yeah, just, I've been here, I talked more in one hour or two hours, you know, we've been together for four hours now, and so I've talked more of these four hours and I do it a week when I'm at home, you know, because it's myself, my motor all, you know, we have to-- We have to-- At least we don't fart on each other. Yeah. We might have to cut this part, but that the woman that you brought up a second ago, the fire chief that said if a man's in a fire, he shouldn't have got there in the first place, she's dead now. Oh yeah. What happened? Her wife stabbed her to death in a domestic violence incident. What? Did you give me any relevant details about this person's life? You're fucking kidding me. Are you what? I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. We did. She shouldn't have done that. California fire captain, Rebecca Ramote, 45 was stabbed to death by her wife Yolanda, all sent on as Yolanda Morote, 53 on February 17th, 19th, or 2025. You know what? But she shouldn't have been put in that situation. That's right. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation. Did you ever seen the divorce? What the fuck? I'd say we keep that in. Fuck you. Yeah. And that. And that. Every man, every man versus and woman divorce is 50 percent gay, gay man is like 30. Gay man is like 30 and the gay women is like 75 80. It's a really bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. The highest domestic violence rates in this country are between two women. Yeah. Two women part, like women partners. The highest in the country. Yeah. How many times did you have to respond to one of those as a cop? Oh, good lord. I told you about. I think I've told you guys about the first, like the first domestic violence I ever went to is two dudes. Which one was it? Was it the poppers? Or which one was this? I pull up and this is, this is like one of my first nights on the streets by myself. I'm fresh out of, I'm fresh out of FTO. Like I've got my own police car. I'm feeling. Cool, man. I'm feeling cool as shit. And I pull up and there's this, this dude, he's, he's standing there and he's covered from head to toe and blood. He had some scalp wounds and you know, those bleed like mother fuckers. So he's covered in blood and I go up and I'm like, hey, what's happening? He's like, well me, me and my partner got into fight and here's my ID and he, like he knows the whole drill because we had to respond out there. Like apparently other officers had to have to respond out there a bunch of times. And the ID's covered in blood too. He says, I just want you to know I'm HIV positive. Oh, I was just making that joke as you fuck. No, no, this is the first thing he said. He's like, here's my ID. I just want you to know I'm HIV positive and I'm just standing there as a fresh officer. I thought I was responding to like, help some crime or something. And I'm like, fuck. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Yeah. It's like, it's like, there's a problem solver right there. I think, I think like the majority of domestic disputes where there was blood taken from someone else where they had a knife or they beat the absolute fuck out of each other. They was always same sex couples. They also like the amount of like that was the one thing. I don't know if bleep this, okay, sorry about his time and I think he was state police. Yeah, state police. Talking about how every, like the two things I learned from policing, he had one like wholesome thing and the other one, everyone has hep C. Everyone in their mother, everyone you would ever respond to. Any trailer park, anything, everyone has hep C. Yeah, that's the take away. That's why you see so many officers in videos. When someone spit, when someone spits on them, they just pop them in the f*ck out. Yeah. Like because everyone has f*cking hep C. Right. It's biological assault. Disgusting. Right. You're dealing with the lowest to the lowest. Yeah. It's a f*cking nasty, man. Especially for the people. We were, we were on one, one time, you know, two guys. That bitch, that bitch in there, he, he, he, he started a fight, you know, he's a recipe. Whoa, so down there, Tiger. What if I didn't have to be a f*cking babysitter for a grown man? Yeah. That would be really cool. Never gonna happen. You're like, nope. Nope. Nope. I mean, the thin blue line thing, it sounds kind of f*cking gay sometimes. So it didn't blue line protect you. They're like, dude, cops put up with some ridiculous ass sh*t. And they really do keep like, these sh*t people from people who just want to pay taxes, have a job, live their life. Well, it's that, it's that thing where people don't understand how good they have it, or what that other, that job entails. It's like, oh, well, they have this skewed version of their world. A police have that, they think, oh, well, this cop just gets to deal with good people all the time. No one's evil. Police, don't get that luxury, they're like, holy f*ck, I could deal with this. Most people have never seen the real world. Yeah, exactly. This thing that will go more than the block away from their house, you know. Yeah, exactly what you're saying at the first. Have you seen that interview where the police chief, and I think it was Milwaukee, gets confronted by an interviewer because he was at like some press conference because it was like during BLM, it's a couple of years ago, and there was some, I'm assuming black person was like shot by police and killed. And it was like a big deal. There was all the press and everything. And during the press conference, he was on his phone texting stuff. And one of the reporters like called him out on it. I mean, like, you don't even care. You've been on your phone the whole time, and he just goes, I've been on my phone because that eight year old girl was shot in the face. And we're trying to capture the suspect, and I'm getting updates on her in the the hospital. And then he just goes like, he goes, there's been 58 shootings or whatever it was this past month in Milwaukee. None of you can name a single one of them, but you can name the three people, my officers have shot and killed in the last five years. And just the whole room's just like dead quiet. He should have called that reporter up. Hey, come here. I want you to be in frame when this clip goes viral. Yeah, shit. Yeah. Oh, wow, some of the Florida share. There's also clips of, I don't, I don't know if it was a greatie Judd or someone, one of the Florida sheriffs that did the same thing. He's like, you're questioning me about how many times my officer shot someone. He was shooting at my officers. Yeah, so fuck you. And they don't count though. You know, it's like, you saw the one video where the woman was like, well, he killed, he killed my son. How? Just said my son stole from the house. My son is going to get money to go to school and get books. I saw that one. Yeah, it's a wild one. And it's a wild one. The mom literally says how else is he supposed to get money to buy clothes? Yeah. Justifying her son breaking into somebody's house. Everyone else seems to figure it out. Well, I want to be the Chicago thing real quick. How many people do you think have been shot in Chicago this year? Justice year 2025. 283. 1,383 people. Oh, shot. Oh, shot. Just just shot. Sorry. Oh, that's it. 297 of those died. But 1,383. Guess how many people in Chicago police have shot this year? 3, 5, 7, 0, 14, 14. 1,000, almost 1,400 people have been shot in Chicago this year. Police have shot 14 of them. No, we saw the problem though. We should find them right there on their name. We named the 14 people. Yeah, do you find the police? They're fat mayor, though, is throwing a bitch fit over all the, you know, Trump's like, why is the murder capital of the world in the United States? Right. It is what I didn't realize was at Venezuela. They had the highest murder per capa, like by a Salvador, at least it was for a while. Yeah, one of those, but then they did the under arrest. I was another one. Was it was the one they cracked out? They were like, hey, elected come and they elected that young guy as president. Yeah, he keeps getting reelected. He like, I see. I think might have been Argentine. He like fully militarized everything and arrested every they were building new prisons. And now it's like one of the safest countries. Like by I love the idea of military rights, police. But when you're talking about military rights, police for the sake of like murderers, like not like talking about speeding this. This was the crack down on the cartels because the cartel was basically running the government at that point. Right. I'm like, these things are not equated. Right. You had, I think it was 900 or a ridiculous number for every 100,000. It was a very, very high number, like 900 to 1800 murders per 100,000. If they dropped it down to like 20 or 40 because those prisons, they put all the gangs together. And then those guards did not fuck around. They're not allowed to talk. They just, someone went in and filmed it. And you just get to see them just staring. Look at the wall. Yeah, forever. That's it. Oh, is that the one where they showed them doing their daily exercise? And they just have to sit there. And this is all they get, like they got to do this shit. Probably. It's all the tattooed, like tattooed faces. Yeah. Yeah. 13 people and the other gangs. And they have like those, the gang don't even fight inside that prison. Really terrified. They're like, Hey, you just, you can't do anything. This is your life now. And they're just in blocks. Well, shoot them in a little way. They're bleeding. Oh, oh, yeah. The original AM 180. Oh, yeah. The prison riot gun. Yeah. Have you seen that? No. It's a, no, you didn't show me that today. We didn't have the AM it. Oh, it's, it's up on my, it's a house. Oh, you got it. You guys got to go see, you got to see the machine game collection. How was it? Oh, great. Oh, great. We did a video on it. It's 22 LR. No shit. Holds like something stupid. It's like 277 rounds right on up top. And it was used for riot control in an American prisons. I think it's originally an Austrian gun, I think. But yeah, it looks like a Thompson has that top pan-fed magazine, like the Lewis, like we were talking about, 22 LR. And it was, because it was not less than lethal, but it was less lethal. Right, right. But it's got an absurdly high fire rate. And you just spray a bunch of inmates to your Lord. You better have enough bandages. Yeah. Yeah. Before we had like being bad guns and shit like that. They were just using 22 bullets. And that, that thing to spray people. But there are instances of American cops smoking dudes with that. Like I think I want to, I'm probably horribly misremembering this. But I think it was like out in Miami or something like that. It was two cops that were in a shoot out, like, you know, two cars with drug dealers or whoever it was. And they fired out the back and just shot. Or either it was, they were shooting people they were pursuing or they were pursuing them, something along those lines. They just sprayed a Camaro with the AM 180. Just sprayed it with 22 and ended up mercant to dudes. Oh, yeah. Jesus. That'll do it. I got this fucking nasty man. The angry bees. Yeah. Well, I, I, I, I knew it from, I did a video back in the day. I was watching old SWAT training videos from like the late 70s, early 80s. And SWAT guys were running around with that thing. Yeah. What is it? Fire is like, it's in, like, 2600 rounds a minute or something. It's quite a, it's like a thousand or something like that. Maybe higher. But it's, and it's just, they called it what the swarm of angry bees. Yeah. Because it's just 22 rounds. It's nasty. But SWAT guys used to carry that back in the early 80s. Holy shit. What was your favorite gun going to his nice little museum he has going on? Oh, hell. 1200 rounds a minute. 12 minutes. I like the B.A.R. I'm, I just, some reason I like the B.A.R. Because it's you. It's a gun. Yeah. Yeah. It's like John morphing into a bar. American. Well, I, I didn't know this until earlier today. You said you would carry to B.A.R. in that movie. Yeah. Yeah. It was public enemies. Public enemies. Yeah. We're, we're at no clue about John. Public enemies. Yeah. It's a John. Yeah. Bitch. What? I killed Johnny Depp and then I didn't work for 70 years. Spoiler. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't work for a decade. Dude, I was, I was watching tombstone last night. Like I was on my, my whole thing where sometimes I'll just throw on like one of the Taylor Sheridan shows or like some shit. Like just a classic western type thing. And I almost watched that. I didn't know you were in that, dude. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. One of the, uh, bro, bro. All right. How the fuck do you not know? No, no, no, no, I'm so mad. I'm like, God dang it. One of the Texas Rangers that come in and clean it up. Yeah. Damn. You handsome motherfucker. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Yeah. How old were you when you first grew that mustache? Were you born with it? That was, I think that was born first. I developed around it. That is a question he's probably been asked a lot of times. Your mustache is eight pounds. They said it in a baby grows into it. Congratulations. Congratulations. You have a mustache. Don't over here. It's pushed out. There's no crying. Pass me a beer. Congratulations, ma'am. It's a, it's a man. It's a man. Congratulations. It's a man. Look at. Go go go. Dog's bag. The doctor. He's a full-size 30-year-old man. Thrilling shit. I'm a monkey. I'm a monkey. Fucking doctor slaps his ass and punches the doctor. What were you like as a teenager, dear Lord? I was a dick. Oh, that got me. The dad in the military. Dad in the military for 20 years. What were you up to during that time? I was wrestling and playing football. I was playing and school my girlfriend. That was pretty much it. Guessing that picked on much. I wasn't a bully. I didn't pick on anybody either. But a couple of times I was an asshole. Besides that, I'm in my own business. You said your dad earlier when we were talking. He said your dad was a boxer. Your amateur boxer, I think? Yeah, which boxer. Got you interested in stuff like that. At what age did you start taking on fighting sports? Was it during high school? Yeah. He was good enough to. He got offered a chance to turn pro. He decided to bear away and make a living and get punched in the nose. He forgot to tell me that. That was something funny. We were talking about earlier. Did your dad ever see one of your fights? Yeah. His reaction to your first fight? His reaction to my fighters. How come you drop your hand and your jab when you're bringing it back? Correcting you. Yeah, he was. He was supposed to. So the jab re-rained. - But apparently I was throwing it and dropping it. (laughing) - Even not happy, was not happy by it. - Did you win that fight? - Yeah, I won the fight. - Yeah, okay, well I fucked that up. - I won the fight. - It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it's still your dad. - Did you have any, like, during your peak, any of your sparring sessions where it was going extremely hard or a sparring partner that you did not like sparring, where you're like, oh, they swung. - Yeah, there's a couple of guys that didn't like it. Yeah, but one time hit one kid in the liver. Oh, I dropped him in these screams. He screamed when he was way down. And when he hit he couldn't make a noise. You know, he just laid there for about 20 minutes. We kind of grabbed him, pulled him off to the side so he could keep going. (laughing) - Go set on the cock wall. - Yeah. - I got more pit men to beat up. (laughing) - Did you do that on purpose? - Plenty of fighting right in the liver, you know? - Because you didn't like him? - No, it was just, it was there. - Probably didn't like him at the time. He's probably being a bit of a dip shit, yeah, so. But if I put a little bit too much into it, yeah. - Did she hit happens? - Yeah, yeah, I know. - I would wear 20 ounce gloves when I was sparring. - Jesus Christ, you've got a canned ham attached to your wrist. I don't like my liver to get hit with that thing. - Jesus Christ. - And it's still making it through defense. - Eli's been fighting with 20 ounce gloves lately. - Yeah, so yeah. - That's all I've been using for training is like 20 ounce for the last few months is just. And when I put on 16 or 12 ounces, I'm like, oh, these are nice and light. Holy shit. - Oh, dude. - We were 14. - Well, you're wearing 12s to spar? - We were 12s to spar. - No, 16s for spar. - Oh, you gotta say fuck you. - God, I didn't know that. - We fighting 4 ounce gloves. - Which you're like, oh, yeah. - You know, having no fingers and, yeah, they're just small little pads. Yeah, so when you go from a 20 ounce to a 4 ounce, you can't block as much, you know. But you can hit a lot harder. - Oh my God. - Can you block more a lot with your like, your forearms then? - Yeah, yeah. - You go higher? - Yeah. - Especially when I'm on my back. I'm on my back, I'm like, you know, you get parry. Real easy, you know. Cause you obviously, you can't, you don't have a chance to have any footwork and move out of the way. You know, you're stuck in that position. So you've gotta be. (laughing) - It was the craziest thing to see being adopted by fighters that's really working, I know. And you come from more of a wrestling background. So was that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in the '90s, early 2000s? Was that crazy to see being used at that level or what was the martial art for you? Or you're like, what the fuck is this? - Not gonna do Jiu-Jitsu's from Jiu-Jitsu. You know, it's just a water down. Just they was a, you know, groundwork, you know, other than that, it came from Jiu-Jitsu. And so none of it surprised me, you know. - So that's the stuff I find my super interesting. Cause this is Jiu-Jitsu, as you said, it is a water down Jiu-Jitsu stemmed from that. - Yeah. - But seeing everything, oh, this dude's doing Muay Thai, or that one guy that did the boxing glove. - Yeah. - Oh, he had one boxing glove? - Yeah, goddamn it. - The fuck? I know that guy. - Back in the day, he had one rap hand. - Hard to him, hard to go. - Yeah, he's the funniest guy in the world, and nicest guy in the world, niceest guy. - It's like MMA fights for robots. - This is back in UFC when you could do, you could where she was-- - So he wanted, so he could grab with one hand and hit with the other? - He had one legit boxing glove and one hand. He was in ranked middleweight, you know, and he got to get anyone here. (laughing) - I'm love to. - The story, they were gonna offer him like 10% of UFC, for him, or 10% or 20%. - You know, he should've taken that. - Yeah. - Which is like they would've offered this. - He's to fight. - It was just like Matt Damon with like the 10% of all of Avatar. - Yeah. - And he turned down the starring role like that similar situation. - Yeah. 'Cause he was a ranked middleweight fighter, you know? - In boxing? - Yeah, in boxing. - Okay. - And it would've brought legitimacy to the sport, you know. - That's, oh my god. - But he said he said no. He took a couple of hundred dollars or something, I don't know. - That's what I guarantee you got paid to like, it may be a grand max instead of the position. 'Cause he's like, oh, I'm only making this much. No, I'll take the thousand dollars of this percent of a company. - You're right. - That's, wow, that's what happened to the Facebook artist. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He was like, oh, hey, do you want 60 grand or do you want some shares into Facebook? - That shares was 400 million dollars. He made the right choice, obviously. - Yeah, he was the guy painting their walls in the office or something. - The girls. - Yeah. - Yeah. - The graffiti guy. - Yeah, and it was like 60 grand and or shares of Facebook, which were nothing at that time. And he took that and then walked away with 400 million dollars. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, your buddy would have been. - Yeah, I would have been sent for my dad. - Fuck. - But he wore a glove to protect his striking hand, right? I forget his life. - No, I thought it was his jab hand, wasn't it his jab? - I think it was his jab. - Oh, shit. - The other one was taped up, but he had the jab hand. Loved up, man. - Wonder which hand he's gonna try to finish me with. - Yeah. (laughing) - One glove art, you know, was him and you know, one glove is him and. - Was there anybody that in USC, whether you fought him or you didn't, that you just did not get along with? That was kind of a dick or? - Oh, I had my problem with tank habit, you know, but. - I was just gonna say 'cause I heard tank habit was a huge dick. That's what I was thinking of in my head. - But he's changed a lot, you know? I worked with him here. Oh, about four or five months ago. In Las Vegas, we did a signing at. At WrestleMania and he's changed a lot. He's a completely different guy. He got a great wife, great daughter, you know? He's still off, you know, 'cause he had a liver transplant. So he's lost like about 150 pounds. - You guys know who tank habit is? - Oh, yeah. - Tanks it, I don't think. - Tank habit legitimately looks like my dad, like same build and everything. Huge beer got and would just. - Not anymore, not anymore. Not back when he was fighting. Huge beer got and he would go in there and just knock people in the fucking house. - He used to do like the street fight stuff too, like street beef, like shit like that, right? - Wouldn't he just like, I don't know about that, but I mean, I know he was. - I know, he's been tanked. - He's like, you're thinking of. - Like, I go. - Yeah, show that full body picture to Cody, or to Brandon. - No, he's a white guy, right? - No, no. - Tank's way boy. - Tank is. - Yeah, something. - Yeah. - I feel like he used to do, I feel like he used to do, like, like. - It would surprise me. - He could have. - I know, I'm thinking of OG, like, early day of the, like, early day YouTube. - He might have, the like street fights are backyard brawls 'cause it was him and I forget the black guy's name. - Kim Beau-Slyce? - Kim Beau-Slyce. - That's exactly who I was talking about. - Kim Beau-Slyce. - Kim Beau-Slyce. - Kim Beau-Slyce. - Kim Beau-Slyce. - Kim Beau-Slyce. - Kim Beau-Slyce. - Kim Beau-Slyce. - One of the funniest post-fight interviews ever. When he lost in the ultimate fighter to Roy Nelson, Roy Nelson also, pale pale white dude with humongous beer gut Dana White described him as the ultimate underachiever, ungodly talented fighter, but was like eating big max and shit the night before. And Roy Nelson was like an elite level grappler and striker, but his grappling was really good. So he took Kim Beau down, put him in a crucifix from the top side. So his bellies just right on Kim Beau's face for three, five rounds, whatever it was. And Kim Beau-Slyce afterwards like, he'd take me down and put me in that crucifix and then I got the moon on my face. I can't move the moon, I don't know what you guys want me to do. (laughing) - Who's the guy right now, Derek? - Derek Lewis? - Derek Lewis. - The black beast. - Yeah, hilarious. - Is that all the halls of time? - All the halls of time. - You were talking about like best post-fight interviews and shit like that. That's immediately who came to mind. - Derek Lewis. - I want you to take your pants off, my balls was hot. - Oh, your guy, what was his name? Roy Nelson. - Roy Nelson was, again, his level of athleticism and day and white and everyone said, if this guy gave it a hundred percent, he would be unstoppable. - He knocked out. He knocked out Brennan Shob in the final for the ultimate fighter. Like outfucking cold. Knocked him out. He's not a big dude for the heavyweight class. He's like, he's my height, 260 pounds of an enormous beer gut. Like I'm pretty sure my arms and shit are like bigger than his. Like he's not jacked. He looks like just some dude bellyed up at a bar in the Midwest. He just goes in there and beats the shit out of people. Huge mullet. He knocked out Bigfoot Silva. He's got all kinds of crazy knockouts. - All those fighters. You're saying the older like tank, the older they get, a lot of them just look at Tyson. They just become softer and like, oh, hey, I'm not as aggressive compared to that young age. Did you see? - I don't even have to beat a grown man. - Yeah, exactly. - I can tone it down in my head. - I can tone it down. I go happy. - Oh, yeah, I got lazy, you know what I mean? Shit, I gotta dig the dig to get a dig to it. I gotta depend on the pain pills, you know? After the neck and the back, you know? - And the neck and the back. Yeah, in the back, in the back, in the back, in the back, in the back, and I got a little deep in it on the pills, and so the fights I lost, you know, I would take the pain pill before I went out there, which is stupid, you know, because I was like, man, that's a long walk out there. You were going to fight another professional athlete and you were more concerned about how long the walk to the edge of the list, it sounds pretty bad to me, I don't know. Was it 50 feet, oh yeah, maybe two for the road, not worried about the fighting part, it's the walk there, it gets me. So I was curious about a lot of these fighters, like we know, we talk to Chuck and some of the stories that they have, of how crazy the party's got and stuff like that in early UFC days. Do you have any stories like that? No, that you'd be willing to tell. Yeah, early UFC's, statute of limitations, yeah, I got two daughters now, sorry man. He was speaking about, I want to ask you a question too, my son, he's 16, he's been in jujitsu and boxing his entire life, like since he was five years old, do you have any advice for like a young man? Yeah, getting high school wrestling, high school wrestling, wrestling? Wrestling's the toughest thing you'll ever do in your life, you know, and most disciplined and it's an exact opposite of jujitsu and judo, you know, to bring it down, judo's more pulling or wrestling is pushing, you know, to simplify it, you know, and then jujitsu's, you know, you fall to your back or you know, wrestling, you want to put the guy on his back and you want to say off your back, you know, so, but the discipline and the necessary to be a wrestler is the hardest thing you'll ever do. As soon as you started saying that, Nick was looking at me like, I told you so, motherfucker. It's true. Wrestling's so hard because I have to do a jujitsu forever, it's so much harder than jujitsu because there's arm bar, there's 20 different types of arm bars, there's 50 different types of chokes, there's 50 different types of leg, there's so many different ways to end a jujitsu match, there's one way to end a wrestling match and both motherfuckers in it know it. So it's not a matter of, I can't trick you into a pen, I can't finesse my way into it. You know exactly where I'm trying to go, and I'm going to have to force you to do it, and so much harder than jujitsu. Do you know the highest rate of young men who make it through Navy SEAL training are wrestlers from the South? Really? The highest rate of men that make it through that training. I'm going to call bullshit. I think it's wrestlers from the Midwest. I wonder why you might be biased, Matt Chex, it is, you both will be able to answer to this because when you're grappling, somebody you know if they come from a wrestling background so fast because they go harder and faster than anyone you know, especially coming from BJJ, you're like, okay, hey, I'm relaxed. Dude goes 100 full throttle out to get you like, oh fuck me dude, this guy's just, they're just dragging you across the floor. They don't know how to pit Mike. I've been doing jujitsu so long it doesn't, I don't even need to know before. I can literally tell when a new student walks in by the way they walk in their posture, as soon as they walk in the gym, okay, yeah, come in free trial, fill out the waiver. Where'd you wrestle at? Oh, how'd you know I wrestled? I can tell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can tell by the way you walk, the way you stand or posture, all of it, like I can see him from a mile away. It's terrifying. Individuals with a wrestling background, particularly those from Southern States are known to have strong statistical presence in Navy SEAL training. It's almost like I went to Buds and noticed there. Damn it. That's all I guess is saying about it. Swiper, no swiping. Oh man. That makes sense, all the Midwestern guys are probably too busy going to the Olympics. Why? No, I can't wear it. They're the Air Force. Fucking hell. Holy shit, Don, this has been a pleasure, my brother. Thank you so, so very much. Thank you. Come out and hang out with us. You had a great time, man. You've been, after your amazing career in life, you're trying to do what we do for a living now huh? Yeah. You're trying to be a YouTuber. Yeah, Dan Severin, I got Danny Don's toxic masculinity. We haven't put one out for about six or eight months, so is that, is that on your main channel or is it, uh, it's own channel? Uh, separate. Separate channel. So you've got toxic masculinity and you also have your own YouTube channel Don Fry. Yeah. Don Fry USA. Yep. So go check him out. Subscribe to him. Some of your videos are hilarious. You're basically doing, uh, you're doing mean tweets now where you're reading comments. Yes. Some of the comments are seen a couple Don Fry speaks fluent F 350. My revolver sleeps with Don Fry under it's pillow shit like that. It's pretty funny. I was saying earlier, like I just, I find most of your shit just coming across my Instagram Reels feed. Yeah. Or it's just, just you saying just horrifically politically incorrect shit to interviewers. And instantly we're like, we need him on the show. Like, damn, this scene, like you get along, he's one of us in still. He don't have all his teeth obviously. So yeah, go check out Don's channels. Cody, you want to close this out, Mike? Oh, yeah, sir. He's getting you. Yeah. Yeah. You're just like really in some room now. Oh. Oh, yeah. It's Don. Don with your OF channel. Jokey. Guys, thank you for joining the unsubscribe podcast. I was joined today by Eli Double Tap, the Fatalexrition. Don Fry himself, Brandon Rare myself, Don't I, operator? Are we doing an after show? Yeah. We'll do it. Check out the after show on Patreon. In that case, you want another drink, Don? Absolutely. All right. Oh, we're going to drink some more. Absolutely. We're going to drink some more, we're going to drink some more, we're going to drink some more.