LeBron James, Fat Joe, Amy Schumer & Don Lemon

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(laughing) - I would think it would be more high tech from that. - On this episode of Uninterrupted The Shop Podcast, LeBron James, Maverick Carter, and Paul Rivera, are joined by Amy Schumer. - Like I've taken so many swings, trying to be helpful and gotten it wrong. And I'm gonna just keep doing that because being afraid of doing the wrong thing is gonna just keep us right where we are. - Don Lemon. - We live in a different world right now and there didn't used to be people who looked like me, right? You have a gay black man who is the only, I am the only black person in prime time on cable, right? So if I don't say it, if I'm not vulnerable, if I don't speak for my people and from my perspective, then who am I? Why am I there? - And Fat Joe. - When you come from us, you come from nothing. Fat Joe came from nothing. And I don't give a fuck. But I'ma throw that Louis Vuitton on like a motherfucker. - Check it out. - So your biggest fear is rats, your biggest fear is snakes. Every second I'm on an airplane, you feel the biggest hole, that's fear. - To this day. - To this day. Every time it goes, and I fly five times a week, every time it goes up and you hit a little crackin on it. Any little day, bro. - I don't like flying, it's not natural. - You like flying either, though? - No. - And every time I'm on, I'm on with a celebrity, right? And so I can see the headline. - And then I used to jump this. - He and I obviously flown a trillion times together. It was bumping. PR said all I could think about was, the headline's gonna be LeBron James and Four Guys. - Go now. - One of my friends. - My mom won't even know I was me. - Travel is the worst. And I'm about to go on tour. So I'm like, this is really sucks. The year joke, I'm doing like 50 dates. - Post Chris Rock and Dave Jipel, having to basically fight on stage as a comedian. Are you nervous at all? Like, are comedians in danger now? - I know, I keep laughing thinking about that. Like, is it a scary time to be a comic? I'm like, no, it's a scary time for women and black people. But comedians, I think, are gonna be okay. I mean, truly, I just got a bunch of shit because-- - Well, Amy, give me the context. - Okay, so myself and Wanda Sykes, Virginia Hall, we hosted the Oscars. And you know, Chris Rock's like my brother. He's like one of my best friends, you know? Also, like, we've all loved Will Smith for so long to see that he's in that much pain, to see all that rage. Like it was, it was, anyway, people were really mad at me, really mad at Wanda for saying that we were traumatized by that, you know, kind of like how dare you. And I'm like, look, I get it, women are the worst. I hate myself, trust me, like forever, undefeated the worst. But then when this Buffalo shooting just happened, like, our movie, these two girls got killed in Lafayette, Louisiana, going to see train wreck. And ever since that happened, I have, you know, done whatever I can to help and use my voice to try to help with gun violence. And Buffalo was no different, but people started posting, like, oh, Amy, you were traumatized about that. What about this? Your voice isn't as loud as it was on this. And then, and I like, have worked really hard to educate myself and do my best to be a good ally. And like, accomplice in this white supremacy that we live in. It's always this little girl, unfortunately, got murdered in the Bronx. And my DMs are like flooded. Like, where you at? Well, you like, they start think the celebrities are almost like, God, we can stop. Yeah, that's an interesting point. Like, does every celebrity have to speak on everything? You can't just, nobody has to speak on anything. I think sometimes the problem is that too many people speak on too many things. Look, freedom of speech. You can say whatever you want, but do you have to? I do think when things like Buffalo happen, when things like Ferguson or Baltimore or Will Smith and Chris Rock that people should have the same energy for white supremacy, for racism as they have for a black man, stopping another black man. You should have the same energy for that. So I think in a way, Amy, for you, you should take that as a badge of honor because people see you as a voice who should be speaking up for those things. And I think it's something people-- I feel like I appreciate that. And I didn't mean to cut you off, because I want to-- No, it's all right, go on, go on. I had spoken up about it, you know? So it wasn't even-- it wasn't sound-- What you say, Matt, and that is, that's a compliment. What people care about your opinion, and that is a compliment. I know it's tough, right? Say what you have to say and move on, and then-- I know. And I want to ask you, Brian, what's your point of view on when you should speak up with your massive platform and when you should. I mean, some of the things is definitely right now. You know, if things happen, and I feel like it hit home to me, and I feel it in my gut in my heart, like if it's something that happens in a black community, no matter if it's in my hometown of Akron, or Los Angeles, or a Shreveport, Louisiana, or whatever the case may be. You know, I'll speak about it right away. But there's also matters that I'm not very educated on, things that don't hit home for me, you know, like Don said, some things you shouldn't feel obligated to speak about everything. But I think when it feels like-- when it feels heavy in your heart and it's in your gut, then I think that's when you definitely-- you get the best response and the best narrative out there to the media. But it's also the media. It's like, you don't control what they use as the pull quote. Everybody, it's all about, and what fuels people is hate. To me, yeah. And I do mean it. What she meant was done. Oh, no. We let one of them in. I have to say, though, I do admire that you're willing to take the heat. And if you feel that you have not been educated about something or something that you were wrong about, then you apologize. Or you say, I didn't know. And that's what we all should be able to do. There should be grace and conversations. We have a voice, and we should be able to exercise that voice. And there should be some leeway with that, right? Instead of like yelling at us, maybe the question from people should be is, why did you say that? What is your perspective? And we live in a time where making a mistake and being able to come back from that, not being perfect, they don't allow everyone to do it anymore. You've worked 30, 40, 50 years trying to build something, build for you, build for your family, build for your community, build for your culture. And you are afraid at times to say things because the people that's not working hard, the people that's not educated, or the ones that's fucking canceling people. That's the thing, people are afraid. I've taken so many swings trying to be helpful and gotten it wrong. And I'm going to just keep doing that because being afraid of doing the wrong thing is going to just keep us right where we are. As a comedian, I assure this to Joe, do you guys think you have an obligation to tell the world about yourselves? I think there's a moment for that. I think it's really cool for any artist to evolve and let themselves be vulnerable at times and to pull the curtain back. I think if you're doing the same thing for years, even if you're the greatest jokewriter, it's like, if you don't know a certain point, let yourself be a little vulnerable. I'm not interested in continuing to watch your stuff. I'm going to tell you the truth. If we grabbed 10 kids right now, it wouldn't be hard, right on this corner. right outside. And we got him the rap, they would say, I'm going to my mansion, I got my chains, I got the sneakers got holes in it. They're all lying. It's true for there. It's creativity. You know what I mean? I get in the studio sometimes I'm happy. I write some happy stuff. Sometimes I get in there and I hate the world and I write some hate for you. But do you feel the obligation to tell us about yourself? So like if you listen to Kendrick's new album or when Jay-Z made 444, Kendrick felt, he felt, he was very vulnerable at the time too. So you know, and also it probably just hit home for him at that time and a lot of artists and people that do, when it, when it feels real to you, you know, after like a lot of R&B singers, when they are at the most vulnerable stages, when they get the best album. I think it's, I think it's a full, it's artists, it's athletes, it's everybody who really has a platform I think and even as a journalist, I would not, I feel like you, you have to be vulnerable because you have to be real. I've seen you be so vulnerable, so moving. And that's rare because, and it's, it's scary. But then that's the only thing that you break through. That's why we love you. Doesn't that go against like, the quote, you guys are supposed to be up there and like, not break down, not show emotion. No, no, who says that? Well, traditionally, right? We don't live in a Walter Cronkite society, anymore, right? This is not like, you don't have three channels and then, you know, a couple major newspapers around the country. We live in a different world right now and there didn't used to be people who look like me, right? Why am I there? I just want to say something this is totally off topic, but you were talking about like, you know, rappers and the aspirational sort of whatever. And I was seeing that I think it's the opposite for women, like, and for female comics. It's like, well, okay, I grew up loving little Kim and it was like, my pussy's the best and everything. But so I have a little bit of that, you know, but like, moms, maybe or me, Chelsea Handler, whatever, we're up there being like, I'm a drunk, I'm a fat whore or like, you know, whatever. And I think women, like, you take yourself down, you know, and you go the other way with it so that to be accepted. But don't you think, I think they're women who are breaking the mold and not doing it? I don't think Tiff had it, she does it. Tiff is like, if you've seen her lately, she's like, this is what's this success looks like? This is not a costume, this is cutool. But how is that going for her? I'm really asking this. I love Tiff, I don't know. I love Tiff too. She's incredible, she's got a huge meteorite rise. I'm wondering if, if people are going to get pissed at her. I'm wondering because I think she's, I'm noticing it. And I'm noticing, you know, well, well, well, well, well, well, well. I think Joe has something to say when you come from us, when you come from us, you come from nothing, right? Yeah. And so what I'm telling you about that, Joe, that Joe came from nothing. I want to live as good as I can be. I give back as much as I can. I open up businesses in the community. I got to school in my store. I do everything I can, right? But I'm a throw that Louis Vuitton on like a motherfucker. Hello. Hello. And I don't care who gets mad. I don't care who gets mad. But it's different for entertainers. Like for I can't, you know, be sporting Louis Vuitton on, and then talking about, we see one of the most nice things in the North like, you think you're on the road? You think you're on the road? Oh, I've done. Don't, man. They're going up to y'all safe compared to you. Oh, my God. So Louis, to your point, you're right about that. I've never even thought about that. Because if you look at the queens of comedy, I never thought of making fun of like Joan Rivers. Oh, my boobs. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just making fun of themselves. I mean, yeah, for the most part, the most successful female comics, it's it's pretty self-deprecating. Yeah. Do you test yourself? Because like, like Roxanne always said. He was worried about people with phones. You get canceled. Oh, Roxanne, and New York. Yeah. And the cellar. He popped in. Are you doing that? I mean, people are going to film me. But people are going to film me or just cancel you for testing. Stop that. I just tested. I just tried some shit and I gotten so much trouble. What you getting trouble for? No, no, no. I want to hear that. Okay. Okay. Okay. So this one, this one, my lawyer said not to say, okay. I was going to go with the Oscar, like, you know, French films. Like if you love everything French, you're a Franco file. But if you're James Franco, you're a pedophile. But I, but he's not a pedophile. Okay. Where's my camera? He's not a pedophile. He's great. He just loves what I call old souls. It's like a 22 year old pussy with just the oldest soul. Oh my god. Why do you get it yourself like that? Are you afraid of backlash? Yes. Yes, I am. But you know, whenever it comes to goes. And you know what? I don't hurt like, huh? Should you be afraid of backlash? Well, okay. Me, me, openly saying, even not even being mean about Trump, but just during 2016, I'm on stage and I just wanted to ask someone in the crowd, just can someone explain to me why you, like why you would vote for him? You know, just asking the question, 200 people get up and leave. This is an arena in Tampa and 15,000 people stayed. Sorry, but anyway, going forward from there, like that did hurt my, my bank account, like, like alienating. Oh, wow. That yeah, I mean, but it feels good to be free. So I got some affluent friends. They voted for Trump, just for taxes. We did my daughter's 16. So everybody's here together, this big melting pop, this young lady, she works for the White House, right? So I'm by her in the hospital. And then I got a young lady die hard Republican, but she's our family for 15, 20 years. So I introduced them. And I said, this woman works in the White House. Oh, you know, Latina power, you know, whatever. So we get up to take a picture and my girl who's a Republican, she was like, I'm not getting in that fucking picture. That makes sense. She's going to face backlash so from her people being in the picture with a liberal. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. Listen, you know, we go go to things and everybody's there, right? Everybody's at the thing, right? This is probably shouldn't tell the story, but I will. Yes. Thank you for having me with you. We need that. We need. There was a Hollywood reporter party, right? New York power list. And this is before the Harvey Weinstein thing. Yeah. I'm standing there to whatever standing there, talking to people. There was a guy from MSNBC and there was Sean Hannity's there. Everybody's there. And the photographer just says, hey, can I get a picture with you guys? I said, sure. I said, yeah, take a picture with you and Hannity. It was me. It was me and Hannity. One was me and Hannity. One was me and Harvey Weinstein, whatever. I didn't know him. This is before the controversy. They just asked me to take a picture. And now that picture comes up. I'm loving his friends with. I don't know him from Adam. Yeah. I was at the same apartment with him and I took a picture. Wow. The same thing with Sean Hannity. He'll get on television and talk crap about me. We're at an event. He's like, hey, how are you? Let's go out and have a steak. Let's get in the picture. And he's talking about how much he hates the liberals, but he's like smiling in my face at an industry party. How do you deal with that? I don't. I don't. I don't. I just, I cordial, okay, good to see you whatever fine, but I don't get on television. I don't talk about it. I don't reciprocate. I don't give people the energy. It's not worth my time. It's like I see you. I know who you are. You say one thing on television and then you're a different person in person. I've had reporters and people be on TV talk shit about me and then at all star weekend, they think it's like the greatest time in the weekend. Everybody's funny, funny. Can you take a picture of me and my kids? Would you take a picture with them? No. Yeah. Yeah, but they're like, you're the, you're it. You're God to them. So I mean, not that that gives them a right, but I try to think of this sometimes to make myself feel better because I get so much hate from the internet. I go, well, who gets the most hate? The people at the top, top, top of everything. But this is a question for both of you guys. I don't think that I'm beyond reproach or criticism. Like I welcome like Dave criticize me. I love it. If sometimes people deserve criticism. So I don't for sure. If I think it's unwarranted, so you were talking about reporters that talk shit about, there's a difference between talking shit and being critical of something. Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind if you're critical of of my game, what I do. If you're critical of how I play the game or whatever the case may be or the game I had, you get some of these reporters on television that they kind of take it a little bit too personal. You know, we're now they're involving my son's name. Yeah, that's not cool. And now you're getting a little bit too far. That's not bad. So that's where that's when I get to the 10 time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm petty too. There's one thing to talk about, too. But when you talk about somebody's family, now I'm doing a whole 360, Oscars will Smith his wife and him with them. That man was put on that spot. She gave him the my eyes and was like, go hand in your business, bro. I know how to tame myself. What did you hit her back with this, though? I got you. I got it. Listen, my wife, my wife likes the tough fat Joe. She doesn't like the shirt fat Joe. That's what she fell in love with. When I wear bad Tim, she loves it. Right? The mission question. Yeah. Is the tough fat Joe? Did you tuck him away? Is he gone? He's so supportive. man. This guy's so suppressed because we try to do good for the people. So even the tough fat Joe always had a good heart and always cared about his people. So I want to ask you about because you're making an incredible transition, right? You're a rapper but you're not really a rapper anymore. You're a personality. You've got the podcast. Did you do that consciously or did it just happen? I always did it but when COVID happened, I was scared of dying. You got me to some of the pandemic. I have to say you would go live. I didn't even know she was watching. I would. He would go live. So I'm telling you the truth. I was scared. I was going to die. Free diabetic. And so one day my daughter said you should go live. My daughter is my executive producer of my show. She's the one until she's 16 now but it started at 14 and she was like, Dad, you need to go live. I ain't know what the hell live was. I went on it was ringing off every star you could think of just kept saying click me and Joe click me and Joe and everybody stuck home. That was me and it just got me through the fear and I knew my people was hurting. I knew they needed the information. Can I put this into context for everyone? Because you as as the journalist. Yes, please. What you said what you became is what many people became. You became a cultural critic. It wasn't just COVID. It was George Floyd. It was a protest that were happening around the country. It was people of color and poor people were dying and they had a closer contact with COVID. We had all of these things going on. So it forced you to become a critic of the culture. And in many ways you were kind of doing what I do, right? What I do. You became the voice of the people. Ron, how much do you think about transitioning now? Your 20 coming up. What do you want to do? But what would you go on TV? Would you be on? I don't know. I'll be watching that stuff a little bit. Like when Tom Brady signed up for TV, were you like, maybe that's what I see now. How much you signed for it. Got damn right. I did. They can't you do it. That would. Yeah, for sure. I think you should be wise because I may want my knowledge of the sport and and being able to have my insight on the sport and still be around the game. I want to stay around the game for sure forever. But like when you're doing the shit on Twitter during the playoffs, you know, people going to talk about what LeBron is in there. Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Why do you why do you choose to do that? What do you say? There's a saying he's just coming with him sitting next to him, watching the game. He'll tweet something and then it'll show up on TV. Yeah, right away. It's right away. Can I just real quick test you on that? How many fouls before you have to get out of the game before you get thrown out. Yeah. Six in our sport. Yeah, question was why do you do it? Yeah, didn't you say why do you do it? Why do I do it? I feel like it's a because you know people are going to talk about. Yeah, for sure. And I won't and I want to let people know I'm still engaged. He's a fan of the game. I'm engaging the game and I care about our sport. And I know everything about our sport. Like literally like I know everything that goes on with our sport. And I want to continue to help our sport grow. But you think about that now. Yeah, yeah, I think I want to do. I want on the team. By a team. Yeah, one by a team. For sure. There you go. Fine, a team. And then talking is a little tricky. If you own the team and like, yeah, I would much rather own the team before I talk. I want to I want to team in Vegas. You're here for you. Why can't you have a voice and also be an owner. Oprah does it. Tyler does it. He could do it because done. Yeah, they don't allow it. Guys get fine for that now. What is it? It's called a it's called Tampa. You can't you actually can't do it. Even in a post. It would be like you holding office and speaking about it on your show. Let me know some people who do that. I've been kicked off Twitter. I'm just saying. Just just one random question because we talked about basketball. Right? Luca. He does the same move. Every single check. Can no one study how to stop this move? It's like when in video games like a cheese mold. You know, they just cheese it like they did do the same shit. I'm like, what makes Luca special? I know you recently said he was your favorite. His size. I mean he's a giant six eight six eight point guard. He's 225 pounds. He has the ball on the string and more importantly his vision. That's why I love his vision. He he can control the game. He doesn't need to have to shoot. He will literally he'll walk the ball up the court 10 straight times and get to his spot every single time. Just because of his pace. He knows when he comes off of pick and roll. If they're hard showing or if they hedging or if they drop in the pick and roll. He know I can turn the corner because I got the shoulder and I know the third line of defense. When I get there, if I just slow down, just slow down, use my pivots, you know, not even jump. Just the euro one. Two, this guy's flying by. He's flying by every time. It's the mind. What's it been like for you being home and out of the playoffs this year? Listen, man. I took my I took my wife to her dream destination to the Maldives right after the season. You know, she never thought I would she never thought I would go every time she asked me by I'm like, I'm not too fucking long. Too far. I just got down playing in June. I only got a month and a half to relax before I got to get going. So when I told her we was going, she still didn't believe me. She didn't believe me until we pulled up to the plane and she was like, oh, shit, you're serious. I was literally in the Maldives waking up at three o'clock in the morning, watching the playoff games. Like every single game at three o'clock in the morning waking up, watching the games. Like I can't as much as I don't want to watch it because it's like it it burns in my stomach to not be a part of these games because it's the best time to play basketball. Like the fan and me can't not. I just love the teams love playing. Which one would you want to play? Oh my god. My abs just, my abs shot of bug me over right here. Yeah, wow. Let me, let me help you out. The team I play forever. The team I would love to play for is not in the playoffs, which is the lake. Yeah. But if it was one team that I know I could make a media impact in the post season and we could be very special. It'd be it'd be it'd need to be Miami or go and say for sure. And I and I liked the way Drey Mon talk to guys to like I don't mind. I like you. I will love giving to a pissing match. Yeah, I would love that. Like that type of shit. Like I love when somebody cuts me to fuck out. Like if I'm not doing my like I would love that with Drey Mon. He's a ball player. Oh, like he could do whatever he want. But he was born. Yeah. And third grade he knew he was playing ball. I'm a hustler who converted into a rapper. Do you chose rap? Yeah, I chose if you could have a choice, would you do something else? I would be an R&B singer. You want to be an army? Oh, I could trade it right now. That's here. Something. My whole career of rap for an R&B get on my knees. Still roses at the girls. Yeah. And really my first love. I can't see myself doing anything because I love what I agree. I agree. I agree with you. If I could trade careers with someone, it would be Jamie Foxx. Really? Jamie Foxx is one of the most talented mothers. He's one of my favorite people in the world. He can act. He can dance. I love him. And precious impersonation. He is one of the most amazingly talented people. I know. So it would be Jamie Foxx. And he's hilarious. He's hilarious. Oh, my God. I wanted to ask you a question. We talk about your voice because you get I didn't realize I got. Ron is big. I didn't realize how many people hang on your every word and criticize everything you say. Does it hurt more when it comes from your own people? I mean, that's a hell of a question. I would say yes. Because that's my whole mission in life is to speak for my people. You know, everything that I do, in time I walk out of, I lead a room today when I came here. I was thinking about my wife, my kids, my mom, and our people. Like how can I make them proud on a day-to-day basis? He want to make a mistake. Like, I do it with great intention and great will and great in my heart's pure to my people. It definitely hurts, but I know it comes with the territory. Yeah. You know, sticks the stones. But it hurts so. Because I relate to that. I'm like, wait a minute. I'm on your side. I'm not like you have to like you have to be vulnerable. You have to put yourself out there in order to write so that you to have an authentic voice. You can't be fake. When you sit at that desk, when do you feel the most pressure or the most responsibility or like the weight of that crown? Usually I'm pretty easy with it because I have a thick skin. Not that it doesn't hurt. It hurts. Like especially when you're on people. You guys, come on. But I felt the weight during George Floyd and COVID. You were talking about the Hamptons, right? I was sitting in my pool house at a studio that they put in in the pool house. The biggest night when they were like fires in DC and LA was on fire and people were protesting and it was, you know, uproar. I was doing it for my pool house. And I felt the pressure, like the weight of the world on me was an out of body experience. I was like watching Don Lemon. Watch Don Lemon do the most. And because I didn't have the big apparatus around me, right? If I'm sitting in that studio at CNN, like I know the Mike's going to work, the feed's going to work. If I screw up the producers there, the camera guys, whatever. I'm sitting in my pool house. My dog could walk out and hit a cable and I'd be off the air. And I'm saying, we're going to go to DC now. Do you see anything else? You can see there's protests and there's fire, whatever. Also in the the other side of the country, L.A. - He's put a down lemon voice on his now. - Yeah, that's it. - L.A. And there's L.A. He's happening here. And also in New York, this is happening. And like, they're going into the stores here and whatever. And in Minneapolis at this, and I'm sitting there going, "I'm in the fucking pool house, what the fuck is happening in the world?" - I felt like I was standing at the edge of the Atlantic Ocean. - I definitely felt like I felt this in the ocean. - During the pandemic, I felt that too. Like I didn't want to comment too much on social media and shit because a lot of people going through they're going through during the pandemic, losing their jobs, losing everything they've ever built, whatever it can be. And I'm fucking sitting in my crib and Brentwood. - Yeah, and I said, I'm like, "I'm shit, though, too." And I wish I hadn't said, but I, you do it. And you say, "Okay, you know what?" - 'Cause you're a human, yeah, that's why I'm here. - And I'm sitting there going, "What do I say?" "I knew though, I felt like, you're done." - The first time I felt the whole world was watching. - And we were watching "Dies." - Everybody was watching. - We were watching. - I was watching. - When the hip hop, I like to think I've been a leader of the Latinos for 20-something years. It sort of really hurts me when I see a Latino under my comment and he'd be the one with the hate. Or if I walk into place and I'm in a place in every black face is smiling, every white face is smiling. And I see some Puerto Ricans in the corner looking with the hate. I'd be like, "Damn, man. I've been fighting for you, man. Like you serious, man." - I feel like it's your real heart. - I feel like it's your real heart. - No, no, no, no. (laughing) I mean, we're in the Puerto Rican corner all the way. Shout out to my Cuban team, the half-cuban, half-cuban, half-cuban. They'll lynch me if I don't pick 'em up, but they'll hurt me. - I saw Joe doing interview once and they asked him, they asked him, you know, Joe, like, you're out the streets and you're a personality, you're a journalist and all that. You know, how do you deal with the haters? And I don't want to speak for you right here. And Joe was like, that's the problem. I'm still like, I can still get at people. You know, he's like, I don't like haters. If I see a hater, they might get danced on. It's still, oh, they might. (laughing) What he was saying and seeing that in language is, you know, people, they like to take these shots. - Right. - But every now and then, Fat Joe will catch him. - Yeah. - I don't think there's the show for it, but, you know, and-- - But you don't have to respond to everything. And the thing is, is that people want you to respond. They want to come up, right? They want relevance from you. - I'm weak. (laughing) I'm impulsive, I'm weak. I mean, you know, it's a problem. - But you know what the thing is that I realized, if you're going to say some shit, say it on the air. - Yeah. - The disrespect was public. - Yeah, don't apologize. - Yeah, apology can't be private, yes. - Right. - Which is, right. Do you want to apologize to me for blocking my number on your phone? - Oh. - Oh. - That's a real thing, Amy. - Wow. - And with that, we're around. - You know what's crazy is, the one time I love to see middle-aged white men is in the cockpit. (laughing) No, no, no. Hey, good God. 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