LAST-MINUTE Fantasy Football Rankings Changes You NEED to Know Before You Draft! (Ep, 2170)

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We've done a lot of focus on ECR versus ADP and where those trends are going. But this one, as we are inching closer to week one and we are getting the final weekend in, we are taking a look at what experts are changing in their ranks going into the final weekend. Now, that can simplistically be things like, you know, I don't know, a tier one running back getting maybe suspended and putting on an exemplist and another running back moving up. Yeah, duh. We can talk about those. But also, what are some? What are some other hidden changes that rankers are starting to move up or down players? Well, we are going to be discussing that today. And joining me is Andrew Erickson as we are looking at running back last minute rank changes. And Erickson, we were talking about this off air that this is kind of like a nice other little hidden secret because ADP tells a story, but there is also something very intense about the final draft weekend as experts are getting those. You know, you might have some people that are finally locking back in or now finally making those. This actually might be the most important time to pay attention to what's going on on ECR, the expert consensus rank than there's ever been. Yeah, because we hopefully have our full set of data to work with. All the preseason games are in the books. I think that all the suspensions are in the books. We'll see what happens with Josh Jacobs. Fingers crossed. We'll see what happens with the Packers backfield. But we're getting as much information as we can to make the rankings as most accurate as possible as we head into final draft weekend with Labor Day. Coming up and for the NFL to kick off on Wednesday night when my Patriots go on the road to take on the Seattle Seahawks, the reigning Super Bowl champion. So cannot wait for that game. Cannot wait for the season to kick off. And I can't wait to get the show started with you, Welsh. Yep. And, you know, it's weird because we got the Wednesday game. We got a Thursday game. We've got to get our week one ranks out. But in between all of this, we've still got a whole nother weekend of your big draft changes. So we are going to help you identify. We are actually going to let you know and we're going to show you what the top three six board for running backs looks like. And then we are going to give you the identifiers of who is changing. These might be some sneaky ones you're going to want to pay attention to for your final draft prep. If you guys would like to follow along with us, you can easily do so by going to fantasy pros dot com slash rankings fantasy pros dot com slash rankings. That's where you're going to see the overall ECR rank page. Sometimes if guys make these really big moves over a recent period of time, you're going to see little arrows up and down. Hopefully we are going to be identifying some that are not on there, but you can check full PPR half PPR standard. There's dynasty, there's rookies, whatever you got. Rankings have got you covered. You're going to want to follow this is because this is what is generated off of the expert consensus ranks where we've got like, I think a hundred plus people and that's going to just keep belling over and it's going to get bigger into this weekend. So fantasy pros dot com slash rankings, if you would like to follow along. So what we're going to do, which is, which is a little bit different than what we do in some rank episodes is we're going to just get through the boards. We're going to take a look at the boards. Then after we are going to identify where these changes are happening. So the top 12 on the RB board hasn't had, or at least visibly had a lot of crazy changes. You've got Jameer Gibbs, Bijan Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey. That's your tier one tier two, five through nine is James Cook, Chase Brown, Saquon Barkley, Devon HN, Ken Walker, maybe a little bit movement there. Tier three is a Marion Hampton, Derek Henry and Ashton Jenty. And obviously the Jenty injury and some of the, you know, questionableness of like when he's going to be out. There has moved him down when he was up. So that is your top 12 at running back 13 through 24. There's some changes we're going to be hitting in here. You've got Kyron Williams at 13, Javante Williams and Brees Hall. That is part of tier three. Tier four is a bigger group. Jeremiah Love, Travis Aitken, DeAndre Swift, Bucky Irvings, Cam Scadaboo, David Montgomery, Quinchon, Judkins, Basial Tootin and Jadarian Price. That is 24 running backs in. And then the final grouping, I believe is like our tier five, where you've got. 25 through 36 of Travion, Ramondre, Jalen Warren, Tony Pollard, Jonathan Brooks at 29. 30 is Rico Dowdle, Marshawn Lloyd. He is like the one in this top 36, which gives that arrow up because it's been such a dramatic short-term jump. J.K. Dobbins, Blake Corum, Chuba Hubbard, Jordan Mason and Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt. OK, Welsh, thank you. Bye bye. That's your top 36. No, that's what the board looks like. What we're going to do now is we are going to help find identifiers of changes in. What has been changing? Because we don't actually have something we're working on, though. We don't have something that will show you like the historical changes of ECR straight to your face. If you click on a player's player card and go to rankings, you can actually find like a chart that shows you some of the movement. So here are where experts have been making some changes as we focus on players. There are two top end guys that have had some changes. Those two players are Ashton Genting, who an overall rank was 18. Overall, that is now moved to 27 on the overall positionally that I think has been a couple spots, but that's a round drop we've seen in Ashton Genting from August 1st to August 31st. So over a month. And that's the last two weeks of probably played more into it. The other one is Ken Walker, who Ken Walker has had some interesting changes where, you know, he ends up being nine on this list. I believe he was seven at one point. So we've seen like a two position. Spot change. So Mr. Andrew Erickson, what I present to you is the two higher in top 12 running backs over the last month or last two weeks. We have seen both of these guys change and they've both gone in the negative. They've both moved backwards a full round for Genting to positional spots, which isn't a full round, though, for Ken Walker. What do you think is driving and do you buy the dips on both of these players? So Ashton Genting is the one that makes the most sense when it comes to his dip dealing with this. It's ankle injury that we still don't have a ton of information about. We still don't know whether or not he's going to be good to go by week one. It's well, I'll kind of find out together, I guess, is when we start to see some of these injury reports come out next week. I think with Genting, for me, he didn't really move that much in terms of well, he did move down in the tier. So basically, I had him at the front of a specific running back tier, and now he's at the bottom of a specific running back tier. So it's not like he's an avoid for me. It's just a matter. OK, well, now we've invited all this new risk with him with this injury and potentially maybe more of a platoon backfield with Mike Washington as he has continued to stand out during the preseason, someone that they seem like they're very high on as the offseason has progressed. And going back to some things that Clint Kubiak said originally when he became the Raiders head coach was I want to want to punch that running back like he vocally talked about that. And we all kind of rubbed it off as well. You have Ashton Genting, he's going to play 90, 90 percent of the snaps. And OK, then the draft Mike Washington still he was a day three pick. So, OK, yeah, he'll be he'll compete for the backup. We don't even know what kind of role he'll be, but everything has kind of worked in Mike Washington's favor to OK. Jandy gets banged up. He looks really good. He's explosive. He's big. So I think that, yeah, we could see more of a committee approach here with the Raiders backfield. So that ultimately bumps Ashton Genting down. I still think that he is very much in play at the end of round two, as opposed to being a pick at the end of round one before we had. Worker concerns about there being a committee and before he had this like ankle injury. So, again, I think he's I'm fine with where he's going in draft still. Like, I'm fine taking that type of swing, especially if you start with a wide receiver and you're looking for a hero RB. I think Jandy can still be that guy. But I do think that I mean, I agree with the ECR, the ADP falling to where he's now around to end of round two pick. OK, so so quick question on that. What did you call Ashton Genting and Mike Washington? Oh, a what? One two punch. No, no, no. What was the word? Who is the specific word you used? Platoon. OK, because I heard you say platoon. I was a platoon. I was like, that's like, OK, no, you said it right. It's 100 percent a word. How you said it in the beginning. I was like, you just pulled a me a Welshism. You just made up a word. You're like, I love it. Do you think I know you just broke this down, but if you had to pick a side, what is driving the drop more? Is it the ankle in at least in your mind? Because I think the injury. Probably is the front facing version of it. But what do you think should? Is it the ankle injury and the the questionableness of when he's going to play? Or is it the potential platoon that Mike Washington actually does take away? What do you think is more deserved of driving the cost down? Because you said second round, by the way, and a 12 team that 27 overall is moving him into the third round. Yeah, so I definitely would be in play of taking him at the beginning of the third round if he was there for me and a 12 team league. So I think that would be a really easy pick, especially if you go wide receiver. wide receiver to start your draft. I think it's the injury. It's probably moving him down the most because. Like I said, Clint Kubiak was talking about this stuff in March where I want to one-two punch and most of us kind of just rushed it under the rug being like, oh, yeah, you're full of crap. Like, we don't believe you, even though we have a pretty big sample size of Clint Kubiak using a two-man platoon in Seattle, despite the fact that one guy was significantly better than the other guy. And he refused to unleash Kenneth Walker until they had to. And then, oh, what do you know? They won the Super Bowl because of Ken Walker being really, really good at football. So that dovetails right into our next player that you mentioned, Ken Walker. He's going down the rankings here. Also, probably injury related. Also, maybe a bit of steam for Emmett Johnson, the other rookie running back that got drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs. I like Emmett Johnson a lot coming out. However, I still think this is Ken Walker's backfield. And he's actually a player that I am considering moving ahead to my RB5 spot ahead of I mean, I love. Chase Brown so much, but I was thinking more about trying to chase the highest percentile outcomes when it comes to some of these running backs. And Pat Corain does a great job of highlighting and defining legendary running back seasons. And, you know, he looked at Chase Brown as a player that maybe doesn't have that type of legendary season type of outcome where the P-Ride is still going to play, you know, 30% of the snaps. And Chase Brown. Well, correct me if I'm wrong. Is Chase Brown ever? Going to be the best offensive player on his team? Yes or no? Yeah, I mean, that's it. No, but that's what I mean. So if he's never going to achieve that, could he possibly be like the complete? Yeah, this doesn't mean that he can't be a good pick or he can't return value. That's not what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say, like, Ken Walker could define this season at running back. I don't think Chase Brown can do that. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a really interesting point, too, because if you look at the Chiefs offense and like, I think a gut reaction. If you ask that same question. Some would be like, well, no. And then you're like, well, actually, yeah, like Rasheed Rice is good. But like Ken Walker can legitimately. And plan out of Ken Walker. Whereas Chase Brown is a really good part of a already like oil, well-oiled machine. That is Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and all those guys already. But Ken Walker could be. They got him for a reason because he's like the offense. Like he is the guy that's going to make this thing go. And as Mahomes gets healthier and healthier, Mahomes is just making Ken Walker a better part of this offense. I think Walker has a better chance to play on all three downs. Whereas Chase Brown does lose out to some snaps to Samajit Pirine. Again, I'm not trying to paint a negative picture. I've been I've been in the highest on Chase Brown since I can remember. Like when I did my rankings from the get from the jump, he was already five. So I don't want to feel like I'm telling people not to draft him because I still think you should. But when it comes to like pure ceiling outcomes, I think Ken Walker actually has the highest ceiling between him and Chase Brown. And see him falling now to RB nine. I think that this is a screaming buying opportunity. And Welsh, I keep reiterating this on every show I do talking about Ken Walker. I feel like in hindsight, we're going to look back on the season. Think, dude, it was so obvious. Do Ken Walker was going to smash. You know what it kind of feels like? Do you remember it's kind of like this, but remember like Jonathan Taylor was kind of being pushed back last year. Remember it was like a wheel ish. If I'm remembering correctly, like it was kind of going on the, like the 12, sometimes even the beginning of the first round. And then all of a sudden it's just like smash, smash, smash. I'm kind of with you, but it's interesting that from a, from an expert ranking perspective, it's going in the opposite direction. I'm kind of with you. Like I'm foot injury that he's, it doesn't seem like it seems like it's minor, but it's people have PTSD with Walker. It's the number one fear everybody has. And it kind of, it is floating at, so that's a more recency thing, but over the last month we have seen that positionally start to change. Uh, and, and from an overall perspective perspective, but the positional has moved back like two spots from where it was because there was so much hype. So. That going into your final drafts that I think these are both two players though, I would pinpoint that I'm clicking on, but they're both attached to injuries. I'm not, I'm just not afraid because I think the upside of both players is really, really high, but you know, you do start to think about like what can be taken away from Gen T. Like if you had to take one risk and you said, I had to take an early for a second round pick. I know you can't technically do this, but early second round pick on Ken Walker, a wheel pick, or I've got to take a late, late second round, early third on Gen T. I think it's just a Walker. I just want to click on, like, I want to be more invested in him. So those are two high end adjustments. When we looked at that top 36 board that is happening and that's kind of affecting ECR. There are two, two middle running backs that are really interesting and it's Bucky Irving and Bashell Tootin. Bucky Irving specifically has had a pretty dramatic jump over. I think it's even specifically the last 15 days. We're curating some of this information. He's gone from RBI. 23 to RBI 19. So that's not quite showing because I actually, we do have a little marker because I think even in the last week, he's moved up as well. If you take a look at the ranks in the last week or so, I think he's moved up two more spots. But in that last 15 days, he is increasingly moved up regardless of the Kenny Gainwell stuff. And then on the opposite end here is, well, I mean, I guess it's, it's still moving up. But Bashell Tootin hasn't had the exact same big jump. But he was ranked around 65 on the overall. He's now ranked 60. So it's about a half round jump he's had over the last month. But I found this is, this was really interesting. He's on the opposite end of his ADP. His ADP had him going in the mid 40s and that's now pushed down to the 50s. You know, so this is one of those things where like an overall ranker are ranking him lower. He was going higher in drafts, but now we're seeing him slip in ADP. What? While moving up in rank. So, you know, there you really, you could actually look at it as like a negative two on Bashell Tootin if the, if you look at the ADP, but just two really interesting guys kind of going around each other, totally different vibes and perspectives. Let's talk about Bucky Irving and Bashell Tootin. What do you buy and what do you think is dictating the movement for them to be going up? And do you want to do that in this final weekend? I do want to move Bucky up. I have moved him up my rankings and shout out to Fitz for being the Bucky stance. And among the fantasy pros analysts this off season, he would not be deterred by the Sean Tucker propaganda because clearly that's what that may have been was propaganda that Sean Tucker was going to have a significant role. But we almost get cut from the team and you're in a running back competition with a guy named Josh Williams, who I never heard of until I realized he was in the RB3 battle with Sean Tucker. Well, you don't get as concerned about what his role could be on Bucky. I looked at last year just to kind of get actually the last two years of Bucky Irving. And basically, so his RB19 in the ECR right now, I think I have him right in this exact range. He was RB18 in points per game last year. And we know that he played a lot of last year injured. So started out really good, got hurt, came back, was not effective. Obviously, it was an incomplete season because he only played, I believe, was like 10 games. So but still, he would have paid off his ADP last year based on a pretty incomplete season the year before that. It was a rookie year. He didn't start playing until the second half of the season. But overall, when he was in a committee to start the year, when he wasn't really playing, Rashad White was the RB1. He was RB19 in points per game. And this is in half PPR. So right now, I think Bucky is very appropriately priced at where he's going. I think you're getting him at his floor at RB19. And I know that Kenneth Gainwell is going to have a role in this offense and he's going to catch passes. So that's something that's obviously being baked into Bucky's price. Welsh, question for you. What do you think Jalen Warren finished last year while splitting a backfield with Kenneth Gainwell? Just just throw out a number in terms of points per game. What do you think? Oh, I want to say it was like it's like RB23. RB19. The exact same number that we've been kind of reading. I should have. Yeah, the number that we've been riffing off here. So I think that this is the right price. I think that he is in play if you need a running back in these middle rounds. Now, structurally speaking, I would rather have my top and running backs already drafted on my team. I'd rather be going wide receiver here. But I think it. It makes Bucky less of a bust risk. I still question the high end ceiling outcome with him just because Kenneth Gainwell will be involved. But if the goal line opportunities and red zone opportunities are there for Bucky, then, yeah, you could see him turning at least a back end fantasy RB1 type of season. And the talent is there, too. Like, that's the other thing with Bucky is he's a really talented guy. Every time he's been healthy on the field, even at the beginning of last year, before he got hurt, he was electric. And we know he can catch passes. We know that he can rip off big plays. And we know the bucket. And here's offense is good. That's another thing, too. The offense environment is strong for Bucky Irving. So, again, shout out to Fitz for being the Bucky guy all year long. I'm I'm not happy that it took me so long to kind of come around. Although I didn't feel like I was burying Bucky as much as his price got cheaper and cheaper. But I just want to say, like, don't scratch him off your draft board altogether. You still have drafts. I think that he is in play here at this new cost at RB19. Yeah. And a couple of things to add in here, something you can do on the fan. If you look over on the left tab, if you're on the website, on the app, you can click through it. But there is a fantasy pros experts thing, which I don't get to be a part of. But it's Erickson, Debro and Fitz. And if you look, you can see the comparison tool. You guys, I don't know if you recently made the change, but you guys are now in line. You and Fitzy. But before, like Debro, Debro is not about Bucky. Apparently, he has got him at RB24. That was in. Yeah. Yeah. But that was in line with the public or at least the experts. public sentiment, if you will, you know, their agreement, but now things are moving in the opposite direction you and fitzy are at 19 and 18 fitzy has at 18 so you guys have now become more the median than where he was before but also looking at this i can tell you uh half ppr in the ranks bucky has not cracked the top 10 but there are quite a few people that have him at 11 12 13 and 14 so if i were just eyeballing this i would say there's roughly 18 different rankers that have him as a top 15 back but you want to know a fun little secret you want to know who the highest fantasy pros person on bucky is whatever you're chasing flex your next with new on plus 12 milligram nicotine pouches crushing that big prezzo lock in blowing up a new personal best psych up planning the next guy's getaway get after it with the strength to satisfy and the comfort of nickel silk mesh flex your next guy's getaway get after it with the strength 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what do you make of the basial tootin rank moving up half a round overall but the adp moving down maybe it's just more trying to collide to uh sometimes adp and ecr can really like flow in different directions this is one of those where they're like really far off but he has moved uh you know again half a round over this period of time you all you three are all around the same general spot as basial tootin so do you think there's anything specifically that's driving you this kind of late slight surge for tootin i don't think so because there's nothing that's really new when it comes to news for the jacksonville jaguars in the back so they haven't played any of their starters really during the preseason and liam cohen has been pretty positive about most of his offensive players across the board ranging from hunter brian thomas jr to both his running backs between tootin and chris rodriguez so i think that it's pretty status quo with basial tootin i think that this is just fluctuation of how drafts go and tootin is in a position i think where if you don't need a running back then you don't feel the need to take him my main thing with tootin is i think that he's going to be the rb1 in this backfield i just don't know when like that is like the only thing that's kind of holding me back from being like 100 all in they play the browns in week one at home i think that's me i think the jaguars are going to smoke the cleveland browns their their defense plays terrible on the road they have a new defensive coordinator there's no miles garrett so i think the jaguars are going it's going to be a route and i think that you could see either a big game from tootin or potentially chris rodriguez but then after that the schedule gets much tougher for the jaguars backfield so ultimately i think that tootin is going to be the one that shines out but it could be like a zach moss chase brown scenario where it's annoying to start and we also have a little quint allen potentially pitching in on third downs i know he's been dealing with an injury but if he's also going to be playing a significant snap share in this offensive backfield then it's going to probably be a committee to start the not pay off right away which is the only reason why i'm not like over the moon trying to get him everywhere because i think there might be a buy low window for tootin a little bit later on during the season i i think i think part of it might be that he is maybe the beginning of the top of this next tier or the end of a tier in that who are the places people that are behind him in ecr jadarian price trivion henderson remandre jaylen warren well what's the representation of all those players committees and that i think tootin is is is crossing a line of like is he a non-committee or committee back you're kind of painting the story where he may be more committee and i think there are quite a few people that are seeing him as the last bastion of a player that might not be and he gets the full run and you can just look at what hn did with them last season and just if you insert that into tootin he becomes super valuable so i think that's an interesting one the final three different versions of each other uh the three players between kind of like rb like a flex rb and rb3 if you want to call it uh that are moving on boards you've got marshawn lloyd that one's pretty obvious he was one i'll tell you this on saturday he was 152 then moving through he's moved six rounds he's now around 91 overall he continues to move i think i told you he was like running back 27 or something on the board uh he has been moving up another player moving up is jacory krosky merit who was 103 at the beginning of the month has now moved up to 88 overall that is about a round and a half jump whatever that is relative to the positional stuff and the final one is a player that has moved down and i actually i'm not here for it even though i do love the the other back in their system the younger cheaper back but rj harvey was going around 97 has actually moved down to 107 he's about had a full round drop and i think part of that is jonah coleman excitement the other part might just be a lack of excitement for the running game in general so if you want to get some quick hitters here marshawn lloyd is kind of the biggest one going into this weekend people are really trying to figure out what the value of him is because this happened so quickly and this happening over the weekend i mean those a lot of drafters did not get an opportunity to make the adjustment so what is the new adjustment look like for you for marshawn lloyd and then thoughts on krosky merit moving over a round and a half and harvey moving down around so i have lloyd at rb 26 so a little bit higher than ecr but i do think that this is the right range although i think that lloyd should be closer to the top of the tier just based on the fact that he's got the clear runway to becoming a starting running back on an offense that could be top 10 remember that show we did on the vegas implied odds drafting sleepers from the best offenses my guy in that show was marshawn lloyd and the reason i picked him was just because i needed an offense that was in the top 10 for a cheap running back and marshawn lloyd at the time was that exact player so we know that his sample size in the nfl is very very small he has 10 offensive snaps at the nfl level and this is something that has been an issue with him dating back to college like he has never really been a bell cow basically anywhere at the nfl or college level now that's not because he's undersized five foot nine 220 pounds like this die is a size speed specimen so you know what the upside can be and he has juice like that's the one thing that josh jacobs even if josh jacobs was playing and healthy like that wasn't really part of his game at this point as much he's been slowing down a little bit and i think that's the one thing that josh jacobs but josh jacobs his superpower was the guy could handle a ton of volume right and leflore was more than happy to keep featuring josh jacobs as the engine to this packers rushing attack that won't be the case here in 2026 we'll see how things shake out in terms of how many games but as of right now he's not going to be available for week one so we got to look at this backfield like marshawn lloyd's going to be the guy we'll see guys like chris brooks sprinkle in here and there i think caleb johnson may have a role just to keep marshawn lloyd upright because i mean it's pretty when you just look at his body of work i'm looking at it right now so he never surpassed 150 touches in any college season like that's not that meant like 150 well that's not a ton like that's like season so again i think that it's probably aggressive to project okay lloyd's gonna see 300 touches this year over a 17 game season i think that's probably aggressive but that being said the packers are in a situation where they may think they can get jacobs back at some point during the season in the second half so they can overload marshawn lloyd with touches and opportunities to start the year knowing that okay if we get jacobs back maybe we get caleb johnson a little bit more ready to go we can feature those players a little bit later on during the season but for right now lloyd is our guy and that's what i want to take advantage of who'd you rather marshawn lloyd or jonathan brooks i still lean towards brooks because i do think that the longevity point of him might be a little bit better and now that i say that i'm not even so sure that i believe that's a very funny thing to say about jonathan maybe that's not an accurate statement because of the jacobs situation so that's probably not the right answer for it i have them right back to back i think for me i still look at brooks as maybe someone that could probably take a little bit more of the entire workload away from chuba hubbard and now that i say that too i'm not sure i believe that so welsh i don't know clearly i'm throwing my hands up because i just want both guys because Yeah, I mean, I think that might be the answer for a lot of people struggling to actually make the the rational reason behind taking Jonathan Brooks over Marshawn Lloyd. And maybe I'm just convincing myself that it should be ranked the opposite way. Well, that's kind of what I'm alluding to. But also maybe there's something to getting a workhorse running back, going heavy wide receiver and then trying to make an attempt at double tapping both of those guys. If you could double tap both of Brooks and Lloyd, maybe I mean, there's a little bit of risk in there, but there's a ton of upside. Any last thoughts? Jacory Krosky is the last guy in the top 36. R.J. Harvey got kicked out of the top 36 here. That's been the latest movement. If you had to pick one of those, it's a really worrisome offensive line with merit. There's Jonah Coleman is kind of a force that everybody's pushing in. J.K. Dobbins is there. R.J. Harvey. I think R.J. Harvey might start becoming undervalued here. So I'm a little bit even though I've had Jacory Krosky merit as a target, I'm kind of really interested in R.J. Harvey in this final weekend because of the cost. But any final thoughts on those two? I like R.J. Harvey because of his high value touches that you should see in the Broncos backfield, right? He may not see the majority of touches on early downs in between the 20s, but those are the least valuable touches for fantasy football purposes. Every time I talk about R.J. Harvey, the coaching staff, they talk about, well, this guy scored 12 touchdowns last year. This guy was great in the red zone. So that to me sounds like it's going to be sticky and that he's going to see a featured role in the red zone and he's going to catch passes. And the thing I keep pointing out and someone that I've actually kind of soured on as the. Process has gone on more as J.K. Dobbins, and I know that you look at last year and you think, but Erickson, J.K. Dobbins was great at the beginning of last year. Yes, he was because it was before he got hurt and it was when the Broncos had a really easy schedule. The Broncos played a really easy schedule to start the year. Then the schedule got really hard, but Dobbins didn't have to face it because he got hurt. So then R.J. Harvey had to run into all these brick walls and looked terrible doing it. And then he got ripped because he wasn't as efficient as J.K. Dobbins when I think you would have seen a dramatic fall off in J.K. Dobbins efficiency in the second half of last year. Anyway. And the conversation would be like, did J.K. Dobbins take a step back? Is the wear and tear starting to finally build up on him where now it's, well, just copy and paste last year's backfield. I think that Jonah Coleman might just eat up more into J.K. Dobbins role and R.J. Harvey's role stays stable from year to year. I literally agree 100 percent. I actually don't think Harvey is affected by this. I think J.K. Dobbins is holding a locker for Jonah Coleman right now. And Dobbins might be just the bridge gap until they feel Coleman can take on the workload. Or they don't want to give him, you know, a ton of carries early on. And I would not be shocked if Dobbins, not even due to injury, is not on this team later into the year. That it's Jonah Coleman and R.J. Harvey is a one-two punch. So I think R.J. Harvey might be a decent value. And, you know, Jacory is a starting running back that is getting is really cheap, but it's a worrisome offensive line. But he's moving up. So wide receiver changes kind of across the board. When we look at the top 12, you've got Jamar Chase at one, Puka Nakua at two, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Monroe St. Brown. There's really just been no change on that throughout the season. C.D. Lamb is at five. Justin Jefferson at six. Their bottom half is A.J. Brown, Drake, London, Nico Collins, Chris Olave, George Pickens and Malik Neighbors. There are three tiers in there. The tier one stops at a Monroe St. Brown at four. Tier two stops at George Pickens. And then tier three starts with Malik Neighbors. So that's kind of the start there. So interesting. There's two tiers of only 11 wide receivers. If you want to make that heavy push going into wide receivers, 13 through 24, we've got. On to Smith at 13, Zay Flowers, Rasheed Rice, Tee Higgins, Ladd McConkie at 17, Jalen Warren at 18, Garrett Wilson, Tedaroa McMillan. And then tier four moves to Emeka Egbuka, Luther Burden, Terry McLaurin and Devante Adams. So those are your top two wide receivers. Very relevant if you are drafting in just like a two wide receiver format. Finally, our wide receiver threes here from 25 to 36 on the expert consensus ranks on fantasy pros. We've got Jamison Williams at 25. D.J. Moore, Christian Watson, Roman Dunzay, Mike Evans at 29, Parker Washington at 30. And then tier five consists of Marvin Harrison, Carnell Tate, Brian Thomas Jr., DK Metcalf, Chris Godwin and Cortland Sutton. 36 wide receivers that you're going to be drafting and you're going to be looking at on boards and you are going to see heavily promoted because the experts have them there. But what has changed? So there are two wide receivers in the pseudo wide receiver one, mid wide receiver two. Range that have had some significant changes. They are Malik neighbors who over time looking specifically August 1st to now has moved a full round almost a little bit more. He was around 39 overall. He has moved up to 26. So we're looking at an overall perspective. So that was like a fourth moving into the fifth round and almost touching going into the second round here. And then Teterow McMillan has gone the opposite direction. He has gone. He was like 31 overall, just like flat across most of August. And then right towards the end, his rank now has moved down to 38. I think positionally, I think I said 20 if I remember. Yeah, 20. So he's moved down a couple spots. He's moved around a half a round down as a very recent. So Malik neighbors and Teterow McMillan, two significant wide receivers with changes in opposite directions. Do you buy the changes? And what do you make of the change going into the final weekend? So Malik neighbors. Makes sense because we've had mostly positive reports about his injury and him coming back. And although the coaching staff, I believe today, either on Tuesday or Monday, talked about how still noncommittal about him being ready for week one. I don't think that should really change your perspective. I don't think it's like the worst thing in the world either for neighbors if he doesn't play in week one, because if it just guarantees that when you do get him on the field, he's closer to his elite production. I think that's better. That's the best case scenario for. Now, I've been more on the pessimistic side when it comes to neighbors, just looking at things beyond the injury, because I think that there's a scenario where Malik neighbors can be drafted as let's say he's not coming off an injury. He's coming off an elite season from last year where, OK, he's got, you know, maybe not a much experience with Jackson Dart. And they only played one game together last year. So that's a projection. And then you have this new offense with Matt Nagy, Greg Roman, like a lot of the boomer coaches that are coming over. That did not enthrall us with a lot of confidence from where they were playing. Now they're all together coaching under Harbaugh. So I've heard some takes about Harbaugh potentially being this year's Pete Carroll. I don't know if I can go that far, but I kind of get it to an extent. And if it was Lamar, that was really keeping Harbaugh outright. And that's why they were having success. And then when Lamar went down, everything crumbled, which is what happened last season. OK, so that concerns you at the Giants infrastructure and the fact that even if he is out there and playing, when will he be able to play? Maybe a hundred percent. So I understand why you got to move him up. I've moved him up, obviously, since we've gotten more positive reports about his availability. I don't think that this is an egregious price at wide receiver 12, but I feel like this might be his ceiling this season coming off the injury in a new offense that I'm just not super, super excited about. Interesting. The fantasy pros that we've got a section where you can check the analysts and it's Debro Erickson and Fitzy. You guys even him out as your wide receiver 14. And nobody has him at what the current cost is. And you are the lowest on him. You've got him at 15. There's a 14 and then there's a 13. So you guys ended up having him wide receiver 14. So you're not really buying. Obviously, like positive reports have made this movement there, but maybe still not a player that you're specifically clicking. But is by people in ECR moving him up. But what do you make about the Tedder McMillan drop? You can even see ECR will give you like little indicators as of recent. Changes of like over last week, if someone is dramatically moved and as rankers are either a newly submitting or updating their rank for some reason, he's one of the few players that you're going to see a down arrow on that he has dropped a little bit. What do you make of it? If whether it be maybe people loving other receivers, obviously, like Jalen Waddle and a Mecca book have been players that people are tabbing a little bit more. Or do you think there's something more nefarious going on? I think he's being disrespected, to be totally honest. He won offensive rookie of the year last year. He was wide receiver 15 overall last year. And now he's entering his second season. And where is his ECR? It's wide receiver 20. So he's going to be worse than he was last year. I understand that Jalen Coker is going to be a bigger part of this offense. That is, if he can stay healthy because he's been injured throughout two years of his career. And who else is commanding targets in this room at all? Besides Jalen Coker, who's the third receiver on his team? Xavier Leggett. I keep saying this on every show. He puts the X in South Africa. Sacrificial X. Xavier Leggett. The guy cannot command targets. And when he does, he drops the ball constantly. There's no tight end of consequence in this offense. They use four different guys. And I mean, I was talking about maybe this would have been my better case for a pro argument for Jonathan Brooks over Marshawn Lloyd. Wouldn't shock me if Jonathan Brooks is third on the team in catches for the Carolina Panthers in 2026. That would not shock me just based on the lack of depth they have behind T-Mac and Jalen Coker after the injury to Chris Brazel this offseason. So I think T-Mac is just being underrated. To be honest, I have him at wide receiver 16 at points this season. I did have him even higher. I did move him down a little bit as Debro was in my ear about how impactful Jalen Coker was in this offense. But when we got the preseason usage for T-Mac, the guy was still operating out of the slot. So getting even more layup targets for him where it's not just Jalen Coker operating in the slot 100% of the time. T-Mac is moving in there, gets more favorable matchups because he's going to be the guy that moves. this offense potentially. We know Chuba Hubbard's not going to generate explosive plays. Jonathan Brooks, we are hoping, can be that guy to generate big plays out of the backfield. But if those things don't come to fruition, then I think it's going to be the TMAC show. I think that's who Dave Canales is going to lean on here. So I just think I mean, he had 126 targets last season in an offense that ranked bottom five in pass rate over expectation. So if we get any more attempts from this Bryce Young led offense where they're playing a much tougher schedule, maybe that means more negative game scripts and they have to throw the ball a little bit more. And honestly, if I'm the Carolina Panthers, what's the point of just having Bryce Young hand the ball off for 17 games straight when he's in a contract year? They got to figure out if he's the franchise quarterback. I kind of know how I feel about that. He's probably not their franchise quarterback, and they probably know that, too. But they at least have to let him throw the ball a little bit more, I think, this year to just, hey, let's just see what he can do. And if he doesn't rise to the occasion, then they can move on. They could draft a quarterback next year and the Bryce Young experiment will end in Carolina. But I think it's worth at least seeing what he has with some of these more these better weapons that he hasn't had in the past. So I think T-Mac is a really strong pick where he goes in drafts, and I think you should be scooping up the value. Yeah. And if you look at the analysts here at you and Debro are on opposite polar differences. You are like 16 and he's a 28. So he's on that further dragging down. So, you know, there's a narrative of some negative stuff around him, I suppose, while you and Fitz are. Kind of holding up the rank. He comes in at 19 on ours. But that is where ECR is moving. McMillan a little bit down, neighbors a little bit up a middle tier of wide receivers. Three really interesting differences. Two guys have played with each other that don't. Now we have got two increases and one pretty dramatic decrease. Mike Evans on an overall has gone from 51 down to around 62, about a round full drop. And I think positionally he may have moved from 25 down to 29 right now. So he is moving in the opposite direction where a lot of us have been touting the touchdown upside. But people are looking at this current injury. I mean, the 49ers just not going to play their guys. I think it's being overblown a little bit, but the injury thing is scaring people off like crazy. Chris Godwin, his former teammate, has moved up positionally where he was sitting around like that 40 range. It looks like he's moved up around possibly three spots, depending when you're looking at this on overall wide receiver ADP. There's been some more positive and Parker Washington, I think this is kind of known, but over the last month, I mean, the narrative around him has been positive for a long time. He has moved from where he was around in the beginning of August, 83 overall to around 68. And in instances, he's probably going to be going ahead of Mike Evans. He has moved from around and a half to two above. So big, big increases for Parker Washington, Chris Godwin, a pretty decent increase, and then Mike Evans down. So you can hit on all are you buying the most? And what do you think is driving some of these changes coming into this weekend? Mike Evans is definitely the injuries. And I would be lying if I didn't think also that maybe I was about two or two front out my skis when it comes to Mike Evans where, oh, well, he'll just stay healthy and he'll catch a bunch of touchdowns. It'll be all good to go. I remember my favorite bets was Mike Evans to leave the NFL and touchdowns at 40 to one and clicking that button again last night as I was submitting some NFL futures. It didn't feel nearly as good as it did when he wasn't missing practice all the time with this quad injury, hamstring injury, et cetera. But I think it's just one of those where he may not play all the games, but he doesn't have to play all the games. We know that when he does play for the 49ers offense, he's going to be productive and he's going to catch touchdowns. So definitely willing to buy the dip on Mike Evans. And when it comes to Chris Godwin, I think this is one that I was just probably asleep at the wheel at. I definitely was not high enough on Chris Godwin, throughout the process, but I have woken up to it and I have moved him up significantly up my rankings. I think when it comes to just him being back in the slot. So I'm actually pulling up this stat now that I pulled last week. So Chris Godwin has never finished worse than wide receiver, 20 overall or in points per game through five seasons with at least a 62% snap rate from the slot. So I know that we all kind of remember Chris Godwin the last couple of years. I was like, yeah, he's been really banged up, but you just go back to the last game he played. He was playing full-time in the slot and he had over a hundred yards, just a monster performance. So he's healthy. He's good to go. So I think that Chris Godwin is one of these late round wide receiver values. I know that Debro Worm and I got him as our wide receiver four in the tailgate draft. And we bullied Debro into drafting Roman Dunze. And then he was the one that was like, okay, then we're going to bring Chris Godwin up the board. And at the time I'm like, man, I don't want to reach on Chris Godwin, but, when you actually look at the optics of everything, you think, oh, wow, like this could actually work out as a really, really strong pick. So I think Chris Godwin is moving up the rankings the right way. I am lockstep with the ECR also moving him up the ranks. And this was from the coach speak index. Greg brain has had something really interesting to say about Chris Godwin coming from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, GM, Jason light. Basically they had asked him the GM on who the bucks go to receiver is now with Mike Evans gone. He said, we have a lot of options at that. Now I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Chris Godwin for all that he's done for this organization. Talk about being consistent, steady, Mr. Clutch player. That's him. He, the GM called Chris Godwin him. He is him. Chris Godwin given the injuries to McMillan who can never stay healthy. I am not relying on him whatsoever to be a staple point in his bucks passing attack. And then, and Becca Ibuka, who has the most unreported toe turf injury that I've ever seen. Todd Bowles doesn't even know. I mean, you could ask Todd Bowles, Hey, is this foot like still on his body? He'd be like, I don't know, man. Like, I'm not sure. Probably, probably. I don't really know. So yeah, I think Chris Godwin is a value here. And when you just look at some of the optics for week one, the Buccaneers, again, we're doing these week one rankings would not surprise me off. Chris Godwin out targets out produces egg Buka, especially if you see Godwin in the slot, the Bengals have really strong perimeter wide receivers. DJ Turner is one of their best guys. You'll probably see him matched up more with guys like Ted Hurst and egg Buka. And that means Chris Godwin could just get peppered underneath with 10 to 12 targets. And every, the week two takeaway will be, well, we're redrafting the wrong bucks wide receiver one all along. And it was Chris Godwin. So, yeah, it's interesting that I actually do agree. Like week one could be one of those spots where like, you're going to a handful of players where you were drafting. And then all of a sudden it's the other guy that has these huge weeks. And Godwin is one of those that I could see that with, you know, if things are slowed down, if, if he plays or if snap count is down for egg Buka, that Chris Godwin is absolutely peppered with targets. You guys are gonna have to get Fitzy on board. Fitzy's got him outside of the top 40, but Chris Godwin is moving up. He hasn't made that change yet. And then lastly, Parker Washington is just ultimately fascinating. He has three rankers that have him inside as a top 20 wide receiver, roughly, let's call it like 25 rankers that have him as a 25 or higher, you know, and a couple of prominent people are in there. Justin Boone, Hayden Winks is in there. I mean, there's some people, do you think so ultimately with how the ranks have adjusted and gone up? My only question with Parker Washington is, is do you think it has gotten too high and too much going into this weekend? Or do you think we are finally sitting around the proper values? A lot of people, it's taking a kind of a slow burn for people to kind of catch up with him. But that is why over the last 30 days, he's made almost a two round jump. I think it's very appropriate. I think that he should be drafted as the number one Jags wide receiver. I think maybe the ceiling case might be capped if they end up doing a lot of a rotation with these Jaguars wide receivers, because they do have a lot of depth. Maybe Brian Thomas Jr. isn't as bad as some of us like to think in terms of him being a bus this year. And I mean, Jacoby Myers is also going to be involved too. And they have a lot of tight ends. They want to run the football. So I do think Parker Washington is ultimately the guy you want. And I think that he can definitely still outproduce this ADP. But if it's in the, he's a top 20 receiver instead of a top 10 guy, then maybe you're not as excited that you drafted him. But I still think he's a really strong pick. And he is one of these players on my short list of, again, I was getting a golf lesson this past weekend. The guy was like, Are you Andrew X and fantasy bros? And I said, Yes, I am. He's like, No, he did. Yes, he did. I said, and he's like, Don't worry, I won't bombard you with questions. And I said, Dude, you're gonna help me with golf. I'm gonna help you win your fantasy league. This is this is a symbiotic relationship here. So Parker Washington was one of the guys that I said for him. Yeah. You should just draft this guy. Round six. I think it's the perfect spot to take. He Washington and don't draft Brian Thomas Jr. I love it. You got you got recognized. Oh, you Andrew. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I am no big deal. Are you really bad at golf? And I'm like, Yes, I am. That's funny. All right. The final ones here. These are guys that did not show up in the top 36, but they were like pretty dramatic jumps and changes. And I just wanted to highlight these two players. I think Casey can say this. I think Casey has been a really popular one. His rank about a month ago was around 137. He's moved up into the 127 overall range. Positionally, it's moving around like a top 50 wide receiver. He's had about a full round jump, but a really big and this is like end of your draft, though. But from remember, and when I say round, it's like, this is how people are ranking them and doing their overall. One of the biggest jumps is Don TV and Wix and Don TV and Wix has moved over three rounds of value to ECR and experts in round. And I think that's a really good jump. I think that's a really good jump. I think rank where he was outside the top. 200 he's moved almost inside the top 175 and might be a really sneaky sharp play to pick at the very end of your draft especially if it doesn't work out you just kind of move on but uh conception has become a late round target for a lot of people and dot avian wicks might be just a final pick to take any thoughts on either of these two guys and that movement that they've had um you know going into this weekend wicks makes sense as maybe he's ahead of mckay lemon on the depth chart as of right now so you could he could offer some more early season value he's familiar with sean manion coming over from the green bay packers so i think that that makes sense for wicks it's also a really good matchup for him in week one against the washington commanders so i think maybe the wicks conversation is it is it real or is it fake don tavian wicks should you add him off the waiver wire in week two that'll be a conversation that we likely have just given the matchup so i understand why he's going up casey conception is definitely one of my favorite wide receivers to draft late as a bench guy because he's a player that i think just could become a big staple of your team whether it's deshaun watson whether it's chador sanders simon balloon dropped a amazing comparison to conception that i could not get out of my mind after he dropped it talking about deshaun watson and some of the receivers that he has gravitated towards during his college days and during his time spent at houston with the texans so in clemson hunter renfro was a guy that he targeted a lot as an underneath kind of slot option short to intermediate around the line of scrimmage welsh do you remember the third receiver on the houston texans that had his moments with deshaun watson so behind deandre hopkins behind will fuller do you remember i was about to say will fuller that was not will fuller will fuller was the big splash play guy who again yeah there's another player i i couldn't wait when they named it when sigmund bloom name dropped this guy i couldn't i was like oh my god i totally remember that guy but it wasn't well no it wasn't christian i don't know kiki kuti oh yeah that's a name drop right but he was good with deshaun watson as that kind of around the line of scrimmage slot type of player using him in motion conception was just really fun great punt returner kick kickoff returner great with the ball in his hands yak monster so i think that even if the quarterback play is bad in cleveland which should be the expectation they should at least have negative game scripts and conception has shown that hey just give me the ball and i can make plays uh psa for everyone out there you need to take a few minutes ahead of your draft and make sure to check out the draft assistant draft assistant provides expert recommendations like we're talking about here for every pick you can get real-time alerts and predictions for which players are going to make it back to you all those big changes that can happen in ecr they can be at your fingertip when you're using draft assistant get the ultimate cheat code for fantasy drafts this year at fantasypros.com slash assistant that's fantasypros.com slash assistant erickson we're going to start with quarterback here looking at the top 12 board this is an interesting position because you had actually said it to me off air the one position you're going to see the least amount of change in in ecr over time is going to be the quarterback position once it kind of locks in which you know whether that's june or july when all the ranks come in you're just not going to see a whole bunch of change and that kind of happens here but we do have two names we'll talk about uh the top 12 is josh allen at one lamar jackson at two drake may get three no real big crazy changes there that's tier one tier two uh from four to ten is joe burrow jayden daniels jalen hertz caleb williams justin herbert trevor lawrence dac prescott and then tier three has brock purdy and bo nix now again we don't have a whole lot of numbers to attach to this i do have one quarterback that has moved down half a round but i want to talk about another guy that i'm actually surprised has not had a major change i think there has been fluctuation in their high to low rank but we haven't seen them make a big major dip and that is jayden daniels so even though this isn't going to necessarily i'm going to pull up here in a second what the variance is between it this isn't backed by like yep experts have made big major changes i am surprised we have not seen a major change out of jayden daniels and you are going to relay something to people that i agree with that might be surprising so let's talk about jayden daniels going into this final weekend i'm just really scared to draft jayden daniels especially if you have to pay a little bit more to get him it's funny i was helping my wife draft her fantasy football team for her work league last night and we go through the first couple rounds it's round four she looks at me can i draft a quarterback now whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa hit the brakes babe no we're not we're not going quarterback in round four because of all the depth at the position this year so because there are so many great quarterback options i feel like the smart mitigate the amount of risks that you take on with some of these quarterbacks especially if you're going to have to pay a little bit more to get them and when you just look at the ecr ranks you have the upside case which obviously a lot of these guys have a lot of upside including jayden daniels because of the rushing they can he can offer but when you look at the bus risk the only other player that has red inside the top 12 alongside jayden daniels is lamar jackson and lamar i will at least give more credit to because he's done it for multiple seasons and he's had bounce backs before after down seasons and he's shown that with a new offensive coordinator he can win mvp whereas jayden daniels we have one really good year and then one bad year where he was banged up tara mccormick's injured i don't need to rehash the pain that was last year for the 2025 washington commanders i had jayden daniels in a bunch of spots some keeper leagues and a dynasty league and it was horrible it was absolutely atrocious for jayden daniels in 2025 things should be better and i was kind of all jayden daniels in a bounce back season but then you had the laramie tonsil injury and i understand that tonsil wasn't even there in 2024 but i think that's just a testament to the superman performance that jayden daniels did as a rookie and how he was able to rise above the situation that was the washington commanders and i'm just a bit skeptical that he can do that again in 2026 when you're removing laramie tonsil one of the best left tackles in the nfl from the equation it was a limited preseason stint for jayden daniels he was pressured on basically both of his dropbacks and it did not look good or encouraging about oh yeah this offensive line is gonna be great and then to add insult to injury they're playing at the eagles in week one one of the best defenses in the nfl and i just i don't want to put myself in a situation behind the eight ball where there's so many good quarterbacks and even if daniels can bounce back after potentially a rough week one why put yourself in that position where you're drafting him and when we do the week one rankings again spoiler jayden daniels is not ranked super super high for week one because of the really tough matchup yes maybe the rushing he can overcome it but and i like the additions again i don't want to knock um stefan diggs's addition i think that was really key for the commanders to add him but the tonsil injury and then the fact that their starting center has missed basically most of the summer with a calf injury the athletic described the washington commanders offensive line as tissue thin interior on the offensive line that's absolutely terrifying me again so the schedule overall scott scott brown toilet scott brand toilet paper like you can't have single play offensive line unfortunately you gotta triple that that is not a recipe for success anywhere in life okay especially when it comes to fantasy football so even beyond the eagles the schedule overall they gotta play at dallas then they gotta play the seahawks colts giants 49ers and then eagles and rams again it's just it's really really tough and i feel like if this team racks up a bunch of losses to start the year you start to hear the rumors of is dan quinn on the hot seat and when coaches get fired it's just it's just not a good recipe for success for this team so i'm gets i guess i'm concerned like my big takeaway with just thinking about jay daniels is you know who had a really good rookie season and hasn't done it since cj stroud and the offensive line was the reason why and is this gonna happen with jay daniels that is my big concern about taking him as qb5 yeah i mean the the well and there's an update on that as well that there's a side to be like the rushing upside is so huge i think there's an argument to be made and i would hear it out for people uh because you're gonna i mean i'm just a little spoiler there is a lot of people that have them inside the top five in our ecr ranks like a lot of people i don't think that's wrong because that upside exists but yeah you know no i know that's what i'm getting at like the rushing upside exists there's also an argument to be said that if they can't set stuff up it he just might not need to be successful passing on the run a little bit more and to be fair they added like a guy like rashad white you've got chica conquo they've got they've got like some good playmakers to like make this okay but in the same token i'm just worried the efficiency is going to go down and that often that tissue paper offensive line is going to create a lot of bad situations where we might make mistakes and we might have boomer bus week weeks i'm with you on this one and this is a perfect example to remind people that ecr changes on a team that's not going to be successful and that's going to create a lot of bad situations so you could be watching this and see something different yourself because this is as people make adjustments or more ranks are submitted within 24 hours of doing this like i for behind the scenes for people i like screenshot things we can look at them on our show sheet he's actually already now six he was five last night he's actually moved to six i didn't even check the update this morning so that has moved down one spot and if you look at variance with jayden daniels i'm telling you there are so many top fives in here it's crazy there's even like 15 people that got him as a top three quarterback this season but when you look at variance there's also around 20 plus that have already moved him down outside of a top 10 quarterback so is there is there a fun place in the middle there probably is but when he's like quarterback five or six I'm kind of a little bit of a a fade like you are and I think maybe not enough is being built into the concern for him with that offensive line when people are looking at how great the pieces also a new offense and Rashad White coordinator yeah new offense yeah exactly exactly uh the other quarterback to talk about here the only one that we saw a really significant change there was a time I think he was like 11th in ranks that has now moved him uh and kicked him out of I believe the top 12 yeah because I did not mention him and as of over the last month he's moved down about a half of a round almost a full round is Jackson Dart that's been another one of those where it's surprising because Malik Neighbors has you know healthier he's going to be out there I think a lot of people have seen him as like a top 10-ish quarterback with the rushing upside but ECR and ranks have started to tell us a different story where he does not show up as a top 12 he's moving down in ranks so do you buy or sell that adjustment on him and what do you think is driving a little bit of a downward push on Jackson Dart as of recent I think people are concerned about or the experts are concerned about the sustainability of the rushing from last year and the Giants I know I kind of poured some cold water on them when we talked about Malik Neighbors on the wide receiver show I think that also impacts a guy like Jackson Dart but when push comes to shove he's just going to run I really don't think that they can say whatever they want about oh we celebrate when he slides like we can't wait for him to be just getting the ball out quicker I think that it's just part of his game and he's a young player and he's going to run and having Malik Neighbors even if it's not at a hundred percent eighty percent of Malik Neighbors is still better than no Malik Neighbors at all and that's a boost for Jackson Dart so we just outlined the upside case with Jayden Daniels I think that Dart does have some risk as well but you don't have to pay the risk because of the price right it's QB 13 QB 14 now that you can get Jackson Dart in round 10 round 11 because there are concerns about it where you can just take a flyer on Jackson Dart start in week one he's facing the Dallas Cowboys I like that matchup a lot more than the Philadelphia Eagles especially with the Giants playing at home so Dart had some really high highs last year maybe it's a little bit more boom or bust from a week-to-week basis but I think Debro outlined it on the Superflex draft that I mean he was putting up like Josh Allen type numbers when he was playing at home and he was rushing at his highest when you remove the one game where he basically didn't run at all I think it was against the Raiders last season so yeah he also has a really really high ceiling and I think that the risk is more than being captured and where his new ECR ADP is because it's continuing to fall because I think that maybe we're just overthinking it a little bit I know I have him checking right now where I have him my QB quarterback ranks I know I have him I think I still have him inside my top 12 because I'm just kind of embracing the the rushing at this point I have him you have met 10 10 so yeah so I'm I'm taking him above ECR consensus you ready for this uh differential uh if you want to look and click if anyone's click on the uh fantasy pros expert differences he ends up being your guys's quarterback I'm not really even sure how here but he's quarterback 12 okay Debro's got him at 8 you have him at 10 do you know where Fitzy has him buried 19 19 so yeah Fitzy is down on him so that is actually probably the biggest variance there was a time and period where we were going to look at this episode 2 of having the biggest variance between the three of you the fantasy pros uh analysts and taking a look at those differences and if that was the two guys that would stand out would be Caleb Williams between the the three of you and then Jackson Dart like no doubt like between 8 and 19 that's like the biggest wide variance of a quarterback so you know maybe some concerns in general and also maybe looking at floor you know because the other thing is like Purdy moves up or Bo Nix is kind of an interesting one as well that he's moved up to 12 so those are what the changes are there's less quarterback differences or ECR changes in this period of time but perception you know is kind of showing up a little bit and that top 12 again is Josh Allen Lamar Jackson Drake May Joe Burrow at four Jaden Daniels well technically actually Jalen Hurts is now five my old sheet Jaden Daniels is six Caleb Williams Justin Herbert Trevor Lawrence Dak Prescott Brock Purdy and Bo Nix I do before we yeah go shift I do want to say one thing about Bo Nix and I don't pretend to be like the biggest Bo lever in the world but the fact that he was QB seven back-to-back seasons and they added Jalen Waddle and he's basically a fringe fantasy QB one he is my firewall of oh I waited so long at quarterback I'll just take Bo Nix like I I think that his like his security his safety is really really high and I think that okay I mean I think top five quarterback is very much in play especially because he was QB seven last back-to-back seasons and another one I gotta this is my bad for not I literally I actually might even screenshot of these again this morning a change that has happened uh that I didn't notice as well Brock uh Bo Nix has actually jumped Brock Purdy in 11 so there there's another in ECR you want changes Bo Nix has moved up another positional spot so dark down Jaden Daniels down Bo Nix up those are some quarterbacks to pay attention to for this coming weekend uh moving over as you mentioned now going to the next quarter going to tight ends our big board hopefully this hasn't had a bunch of changes the top 12 is Brock Bowers at one Trey McBride at two Colson Loveland at three this actually does seem like a new change that uh Tyler Warren's at four but I don't recall the tier being Tyler Warren a part of that top tier that looks like a little different uh the the numbers are the same but the tier is interesting Tucker Craft is the start of tier two at five Laporte is at six Fannin at seven Pitts Kittle and then tier three's got Kelsey Kincaid and Goddard so that's been pretty chalk uh now that's making me want to go look at the live board and I don't think yeah there is actually there is another change here I got I'm getting smacked with these I'm going to actually say this one Dallas Goddard has moved out of the top 12 and the new change is Isaiah Likely and actually I was going to talk about him at one point but Likely uh moving up a little bit into the top 12 so that is actually something we're seeing kind of on the live board uh if you're looking over on fantasy pros and that'll probably change but the two tight ends I wanted to talk about these are the top 12 and I'm going to talk about the top 12 and I'm going to talk about the these are outside of the top 12 uh well actually just real quick on Isaiah Likely anything you want to speak on Likely jumping Goddard in the ranks is does that do anything for you I mean Goddard's numbers without AJ Brown is pretty sexy but Likely clearly looks like he's going to be the the number two pass catching option in New York and funny enough kind of tying this into the Jackson Dart thing do you have any comments on Goddard versus Likely making that move I think Likely has the higher ceiling potential just because there's an opportunity for him if neighbors is not 100% for Likely to be the number one target in this offense for maybe the first month of the season not to say that Dallas guard doesn't also have pristine opportunity with no AJ Brown Makai Lemon coming back from his injury and it just being Devante Smith as the established number one also very favorable schedule to start the year again this Eagles passing game is probably going to start off on a high note considering they play the Washington commanders in week one so that's a good spot for Jalen Hurts and this offense to at least start on a high note so I think Goddard is a really good late round Titan option I think likely is also a really good late round Titan option I just look and see the splits that we saw last or last two years basically whenever Mark Andrews missed time likely was posting fringe top five fantasy numbers and there's always a question about well why can we overtake Mark Andrews there's a there's like a weird legendary franchise player thing going on with Mark Andrews in Baltimore where they're continuing to play him and start him even though it's very visible that you can see that the product the asset the production is starting to decline with the player but they don't care because he's Mark Andrews he's a Ravens long timer he's a legendary player for our franchise he's a franchise pride of my high school remember pride of my high school of Welsh's high school so they were hesitant to everything really kind of not bench him but to put him behind likely even though it was very clear that likely had way more juice and way more upside and like they said screw this I'm going to I'm going with Harbaugh to the Giants get a new contract for a path for opportunities and likely would hardly be the first tight end to finally hit on their second team right this is a very common thing that we see a trend where first team a Titan that's kind of buried doesn't really do that much maybe flashes here and there I think the most popular guy that comes to mind a guy that you probably remember on the 49ers Delaney Walker didn't really do that much I think he was behind Vernon Davis at the time some of the other tight ends goes to Tennessee has a great stretch of production with Ryan Tannehill as his quarterback for a lot of those seasons so I think it likely could follow a similar path and I think that getting him as a late round tight end option I think he's got a little bit more boom or bust to him because Giants offense maybe we don't love them this year but when it comes to tight ends the bar to relevance into success is just volume are you going to get targets and I think likely we'll get a lot of targets in this offense yeah I think it's and you guys your variance is super interesting because between you Debro and Fitzy it's either 10 or 12. like there's a two-spot difference you all have them as a tight Isaiah likely as a tight end one nobody lower than 12 and he comes in as the 11th but you guys are not in the same boat as Goddard bigger variants Debro has him at eight Fitzy has him at 14. you break the middle so there's a much bigger Gap of variance between Goddard likely is trending up just as a you know a point if you guys don't already know likely is a guy you should be paying attention to if you don't do high-end tight end or even miss on a guy like Pitts getting him a little bit later but ranks are moving him up ADP is probably moving him up a little bit and he's just jumped Goddard The two tight ends, though, that I wanted to focus on, they're actually later tight ends. And I think there's some interesting different buzz in different capacity. But Dalton Schultz was 193. He has moved up over two rounds to 170. I know that's at the back end, but that's like people waiting on tight end, taking him at the very end of drafts if you don't want to do it. And his tight end positional thing is really interesting. He is tight end 19, but the ADP of him is 25. So ADP is not caught up to where he is. So I don't know in every league 19 tight ends are going to be taken. But, you know, with the injuries they've had, I know they brought in booty and stuff. But like, you know, Dalton Schultz looks like he can get a decent target share. And then one of the buzzier guys, Terrence Ferguson, was ranked lower than Schultz, is now ranked higher than him and has had it over a three round jump and is very, very buzzy. So two tight ends you would take at the back half of drafts. If you could pick one of these guys, you don't take tight end. You really wait on it. You also don't get the. Like these are the Goddards or, you know, maybe you do get one of those guys are a kiddle and you want to pair with which one would you side on going into this weekend? Both guys moving up Dalton Schultz or Terrence Ferguson. It would be Terrence Ferguson for me. And I think that this is the perfect epitome of what Jeff Ratcliffe was talking about in one of his draft day tips to remember where when you're looking at your bench players, what you're drafting for is not players to be usable, but for players to become indispensable. And I think that this is perfect. I think that this is the perfect epitome of what Jeff Ratcliffe was talking about in one of his draft day tips to remember where when you're looking at your bench players, what you're drafting for is not players to become indispensable. And I think that this is the perfect epitome of what Jeff Ratcliffe was talking about in one of his draft day tips to remember where when you're looking at your bench players, what you're drafting for is not players to become indispensable. And I think that this is the perfect epitome of what Jeff Ratcliffe was talking about in one of his draft day tips to remember where when you're looking at your bench players, what you're drafting for is not players to become indispensable.