Lamar Jackson, Donald Glover, Quinta Brunson, J Balvin and LeBron James

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I wasn't paying attention. But good songs playing in the background, you can hop in at any moment and be like, that's good. So it was music. You know, yeah, music. Straight up. Music. And I should put you back in a place where you just like, you know, you hear a certain song, you know exactly what the fuck you was doing, where you was, no matter when you heard it. If you was five years old, if you was seven, high school, grade school, wherever you are. Like if you, if you hear a certain song, it just puts you right back in that moment. That's the best part. You don't get that from nothing else. I look at them all now as like, you're trying to give people a buoy in the, the sea of time to like, be like, I remember that. That was crazy. Like, it's like, oh, I saw that. That was nuts. Like you have to make people happy that they are alive. Right. Yes. That's all it is. I know there are other people involved in making a song, but to make a TV show, it takes so many people. It's so it's such a, it's big, but I admire my friends who make music who really could just go in a booth, lay their heart out. And boom, in a matter of a night, they have this piece of art to share with the whole world. I just think that's so powerful that alone, I mean, by the time I finished explaining to 200 people, exactly what the vision is. I don't know. Sometimes you wish you could just go in a booth and lay it. I told you that before though. I told you, I mean, I love, I fucking love what I do, but sometimes I wish I could take some of my thoughts and put it on wax and make them rhyme. But I get jealous of you guys. I get jealous because y'all got stats. That's the thing is like, no one's going to sit here and be like, oh, LeBron's not that good. It's like, I got stats to prove that. Like you can say you don't like him, but what you won't say. Yeah, but you can't say he's not this or like that. Because the numbers reflect. The numbers reflect. And we see it, right? I agree with that. And you see it and you saw it and this person jumped that far. Yes, and their objective. At the end of the day, there's a scoreboard that says, fuck how everybody feels. This team won and this player scored a bunch of touchdowns and that's it. And that's it. The Biggie-Beatles conversation. People were so mad. And I don't think anybody in there was like big Beatles fans. But they were like, I have an opinion. An opinion. I have a point of view on this, which is what music is. It's like, you know, people like the Michael Jackson-Prince argument is eternal because it really is speaking to something deep, I think, in all of us. Oh, like this one had a world that was kind of colorful and kind of had no death. And this one was kind of darker. And it had, like, reality in it. And which one's better? And which one do you subscribe to? I'm sorry, cut you off. You just know certain artists, certain sounds, certain quality for all of us. Like when we want to, it's a big meeting or we're about to do a show or we're about to do, you know exactly what song or a couple tracks that you can put on and it'll lock you, it'll laser your ass. But do you, can you ever listen to, like, jazz or something going into the game? You do that? I think you do that, man. I don't, not before I run out. But I'm super excited when I get to the arena. This is way before the game. I get to the arena, man, probably like five hours before the game starts. And you still know because you're too hype. Yeah, when I get there, I go right to the weight room. So then I listen to all hip-hop when I'm in the weight room. Like, DMX, crazy. Like, I've been on some DMX shit lately in the weight room. And then when I leave the weight room, I got to calm down. And that's when I'm listening to, like, more, like, old school jazz or. R&B or something. I listen to a lot of, like, Beethoven. Beethoven and shit, too. Oh, yeah, like classical music. Or, like, classical music, too. Well, under eight, you know, Beethoven can really turn you up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I listen to a lot of classical music, like, when I'm just trying to. And then, like, probably about 45 minutes, hour before the game starts, that's when I start wrapping it back up. What's your routine, Lamar? Well, Hollywood come get me before every game. You ride through the game every game? Me and Hollywood ride together ever since he's been in the league. We go to the game. How early do y'all get there? I'm probably. I like to get right to it. I don't like to wait before the game, like, bro, at five. At five hours, I'm probably 30 minutes. We got to be there an hour, actually. So, an hour before the game, we got to be in the facility. That's young. That's young. Yeah. And then, when you're out the car, put the uniform on. Yeah, like, I'm. By the way, he probably got the uniform on in the car. He's not playing football like Pee-wee. Like, Pee-wee. They got it in the locker room prepared for me. I need to get on that routine, then. Because he's been around for a long time. That's why. Yeah, for sure. So, you pull up to the stadium an hour before the game. I'm listening to 26 Cool. Listening to all these guys, Kodak Black, Shemin, stuff like that. They're not there already, because I've been preparing all week. You already got the game plan all for. I've been preparing all week. I done studied. Lately, like, since I've been in the league, defense has been changing. Like, they don't pay me how they play other quarterbacks and stuff. They can't. Yeah, so I got to get ready for a dogfight every game. Yeah. They're going to play their best. They're going to spy you. Yeah, trying to keep your ass in the pocket. For sure. QB contained. I was just laughing. With a QB spy. Thinking about him. Thinking about him walking to the stadium. They're doing it all now. Have you started thinking about changing shit like that up yet? Yeah. Yeah, this year. This year, you know, it's my fifth year going to be in the league. This is about to be your fifth year? Yeah, it's going to be my fifth year. What do you want to change? My approach. You know, my approach, my mindset. You know, just a lot mature. I felt like I was a little immature. Not in a bad way, but just like. Yeah, you was young. Younger. Yeah, you're young. Would you consider your career a failure if you didn't win the Super Bowl? Nah. Nah. I wouldn't say I'm a failure. Because I knew where I was. You know, I knew it was. Like, many people in my family, you know, they had the opportunity, but they really didn't take advantage of it. A lot of my people was great football players, but they just, you know, our environment. Got caught up in the hood. Yeah, caught up in the hood. Our environment. We know it. We know it very well. You know, Bruh, my favorite basketball player. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's why I wanted to be on the shot. I'm like, heck yeah, Bruh. Yeah, so. Anything specifically you want to take from him, potentially, as you grow? Oh, man, everything. And being a champion. Like, I feel like that's the one thing, you know, I want to take from him, if anything, is, you know, being a champion and being a billionaire, you know? That's just what I've been thinking about ever since I was a little kid, being a billionaire and being a champion. Bruh, going from being a young phenom to being a champion, what's, like, two or three of the biggest things you would tell him, like, to break through that? No, he right there. I mean, at 25, 25 was my first year in Miami, you know? And we lost my first year. I was 25 years old. I think one of the first ones that I started to learn that you can't really give a fuck about what people say no more. Everybody's going to help you critique everything that you do no matter what you do. That shit will creep into your mind, no matter if you believe it or not. It's wasted energy. It's wasted energy. My first year in Miami, I was down there. Like, I was literally, like, I wanted to prove everybody wrong. And I, like, literally lost myself in the moment. I lost myself. Yep. And I got all the way to the championship that year and lost. And the reason I knew we, afterwards, I was like, we lost because I wasn't, I wasn't even there. You start playing chess. You were playing for that? Yeah. You, like, it wasn't my present. You start playing chess with somebody who doesn't exist. Okay. Did you ever tap into something that you feel is kind of bad to, like, in you to win, to, like, get into? Because, like, I struggle with that. Like, I am naturally, like, petty. Petty? Like, extremely petty. It was like, Awaken My Love was, literally, because somebody was like, oh, he can't make a hit. Oh, shit. And I was like, oh, not only will I make a hit, I won't make a video for it. Pettiness has its place. It has its, it makes you stronger. But I also know it's, like, it's dark. It's not something that you should be, it's not something that it should be all of that, because then you, it's bad. But athletes actually look for. Yeah. They look for the things. You need a little, like, fucking Mr. Hyde to kick out. Exactly. You need it. Like, sometimes, I'll go out on the court sometimes, and, like, I don't know, maybe I didn't sleep well last night, or, you know, daughter may have had me, you know, kids, we might have been up late, you know, whatever, or I didn't just sleep well, and I just need a little, like, jump starter. I go out on the floor during warm-ups, and I'll just, I'll just be looking for a LeBron hater. I just need one of them. I'll be like, please, let me find this one LeBron hater. That's what I'm saying. I need it. In the crowd for warm-ups. It's, like, 20 minutes before the game starts, and I'm just looking like. Oh, yeah, I'll be ready to go tonight. Clearly, you found a lot or enough LeBron haters because he just passed Kareem on scoring more points than anyone's ever scored regular season in playoffs. That's good. I know you're so of the moment, like, win, team, team, win, get better. What did that mean to you? The crazy thing is I'm not, I'm not, like, a natural scorer. Like, I love, like, getting my guys involved. I've always been that way. I've always, like, the point of seeing my teammate succeed off my pass or having, like, I've always been that type of guy. and to sit at the top of the food chain and the most points scored in the history of the game, it's like, it's weird to me. Like, they don't ever call me. They don't ever call me. And when they talk about the best scorers of all time, they never mention my name. Does that piss you off? Yeah, it pisses me off. But you know the crazy part is. It pisses me off, but it's like. The crazy part is. They don't ever bring my name into it. I don't. If I started talking about the best scorers, I wouldn't mention. I would mention you, but. Yeah, but you're, you know. You're an asshole, though, so. He's a LeBron-hater. You've always been a LeBron-hater. He's always been a LeBron-hater. Like, you know, I look for Mav every game. He's like, up in the stands, he's like. There he is. By the way, he knows, he knows because when they told him, he wasn't a real quarterback. That's right. He wasn't a running back. Wait, what happened? He had one of the most storied, successful, collegiate careers at quarterback anyone's ever had. And the pro teams are asking him if he wants to switch positions to play something else. It's very disrespectful. Why did they ask you that? Because, you know. You do know why. You know. You do know why. Well, the truth is, there's a lot of history with them not wanting black guys to play quarterback. In football? Yeah. Tons of history. It started with, oh, they can't think quick enough. Like, this is going way back, 70s, 80s, and it's still, it's dying off. Every day, y'all give me more reasons to. It's dying off, but it's still there. It's still there. That's why I need that championship. Bro, I just started drinking at 36. Wow. Start. Every fucking Sunday, I get drunk. I mean, there are football seasons that sound like me. I'm more sad about the season. I hate when the season ends. Bro, I was so focused. I swear. I was so focused in my career all the time. Discipline and shit that I forgot about myself. I started, you know, doing music. I started just so focused and disciplined to know where I'm heading, you know, to what was happening, that I was just like this all the time. I wasn't looking around, you know, now that I just became a dad, a father. That's what did it. That's what did it. I'm kidding. That's what did it. But the thing is, like, when the quarantine, you know, when all this shit started, I was like, what makes me happy as a person? I forgot because I was just so caught up in J-Bobbing. I knew what J-Bobbing meant. What makes me happy? What makes J-Bobbing happy? Yeah. You know, hits and, you know. Touring and shit. Touring, all this shit. Then I was like, I'm locked up in the home, and I'm like, oh, shit, how to make me happy? What about Jose? Yeah. My name is Jose. You know, like, what makes Jose happy? Yeah. You know, like, be with my friends or have a coffee, you know. Yeah. Go around some streets or go back to the hood where my career started in Colombia. All those simple things is what really is priceless, and it's priceless. For sure. So since that day, I'm going to do a list. What I always wanted to do is I start skydiving. I'm jumping, bro. Shit. I'm skydiving, bro. Solo. Solo. You know, I started drinking every fucking Sunday. Hell yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. I got my rap, I listen, but I don't. Do you drink then go skydiving? No, I can't. No, I can't. I can't, bro. You talked about making hits, Jay. Is there a formula, and for you guys, too, as artists, to making something breakthrough or hits? Like, this is how you can- No, there's no formula, because not everybody will be successful. Yes, of course, yeah. You know, there's going to be, like, 200 LeBrons then, you know, or 200 Drakes, or 200 Jaycees, or 200 J-Bobs, you know, like, or Bad Bones, you know, like, there's no formula. So when do you guys know, as the creators, when it's the one? I mean, you probably had the vision, but, like, did you know it was going to be as big as it is? No, but I felt that we were making something good. Everyone felt that we were making a good thing, and I think that's unique. I've been on other sets and shows, and you go, you know, this will be mid, this will be good. You're going through the motions. Yeah, you're going through the motions, and that's okay, too, because at the end of the day, this is a job, and I think audience members think we're super passionate about everything we do, and that would be a dream come true. But with my show, with Abbott Elementary, I got to feel my passion within the capitalism of it all. Your show is super fucking funny. It's funny. I mean, it's hilarious, but you're also discussing, like, real matters, right? Like, real serious issues. How do you balance comedy with serious issues, underprivileged schools and those types of things, teachers not getting paid, those types of things? Well, first of all, I think my job is to do comedy first. That's how I approach it, right? The job was to make good comedy. So, to me, it means that the comedy has to come first, and that's that. And then, as far as the messages and stuff, I don't like to tackle issues. Like, that's. That sounds so terrible to me. I don't care about. It's the worst. Do you know what I mean? I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. You don't want to begin from that place. Yeah. Your hope is that you start making something, and boom, that organically comes out. You just want to make something good. I mean, like, that's the thing. Like, her show is, like. Speaking on petty, like, when I watched that show, I was, like, so jealous. I don't know. I was. I'm jealous of you every day. But that's what I'm saying, in a good way. In a good way. That's how I knew it was good. Anytime I'm, like. I agree with you. Sometimes I watch something that's, like, good, but I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't have done that. That's not. I'm like, I'm like, I was so. I was so jealous, because I was like, this is a good show. And it's hard to do that on network television. It's almost impossible. That's hard to do. Doing it on a big stage like that, and not pulling punches and understanding yourself enough to get it through, that's really hard. It is hard, but what then helps make it possible is what you've done with Atlanta. What Issa's done with Insecure. What even the smaller shows like Flatbush Misdemeanors. Those things all equate to finally all the puzzle pieces come together. Coming together, because they either let you be first or last. Right, right, right. Like, you're either. Exactly. You're either living single. Yep. You know, and somebody's like, that's a good idea. It's so true. We'll make friends. Black people, yeah. You know, like, you know what I'm saying? Or you're last, where they're like, we tried it, and you can now try it too. Like, kind of thing. So, like, when something works really well, it's like, why didn't we do this before? It's the same thing as the quarterback thing. It's not even like a hatred thing, or like, we don't want that. It's not. It's just there. Yeah. And you have to put it in a way where people don't. Because I'm like, Atlanta's a black show, but people don't think of it that way. Trust me. I am a young black girl asking a lot of old white people to just trust me. Trust me. To be like, weirdly, I got you, old white people. Trust me. I don't want to got you, but I got you. That's the realest shit, because, like, I'm going to be real with you. Like, once it really pops, once it really pops, they're going to be like, we got you. Like, which is the problem. Like, they're going to be like, we understand it. Do you feel that with coaches? Do you ever have to tell the coach, like, coach, let me fucking cook. I got this one. Do you ever have to say that? Yeah. In the game, like, coach. You do? In the two-minute offense, like, let me cook, man. Only because my coach wouldn't win, too. He's just as bad as I want to do. You know that. He's going to be on me. Let's go. We got to do this right here. I'm like, I got it. You don't got to tell me. I got it, because I'm already focused on, you know, what I got to do out there. So it's like, I got it. Matter of fact, the Miami game, when I did that, the first drive of the game, my coach, he was like, man, there might be some noise going on. You know, it's the first game of the season. The mics might go out. I'm like, I'm thinking he's just talking. I'm like, that ain't never happened before. It happened the first drive. So now we like, he's trying to give me the number of the play for me to look at the wristband. I can't hear him. I can't hear him. He's going crazy. So I'm like, all right, this play, I want to tell him the formation, lining up. And we just went and going. People think it's a simple thing. Please do us the honor and call a play. If we're your huddle, call a play right now. I don't want to call our plays on here on TV. No, just any play. You're not going to tell us what it is. Can I want people to see how extensive your huddle, the play is? I'm trying to think about that. All right, gun double right, pass, two jet, alley, can, three jet, this and that. And then go to, that's a can. The can is the kill the play. If I see a, yeah, change the play basically. If I see a formation in the defense, I don't like, get us in a better position. And the crazy part is, remember he's doing this with 70,000 people screaming. I know. And the clock winding down. And when we walk out of the huddle, he may cease. He has to make the decision. Oh, I don't like that. Forget all of that. Forget all of that. Forget everything I just said. Just can't. See? Can't. I wish you could. Now you got to do it. Now you got to do sign language to us. And that's every play. That's every play. That's insane to be a quarterback. I have a quick, can I ask a question? You can do whatever you want. So, we have a way we want people to feel when they watch our shows or hear our music and, or see our art. Do you have a way you want people to feel when you play? Nah, being honest, I really can care less. Like, I'm going out there to just try to win. Man, you focused. Yeah, I'm locked in. And I don't really care what the people are going to say. Because they're going to say whatever, win or lose, regardless. Yeah. But it's not a good feeling when you're going to Pittsburgh. Do you not want their fans to leave, like, sad? Absolutely. I got to get the dub. That's why I'm locked in. Yeah, that's why I'm locked in. You want the win for them. Yeah, for them. For them and my crowd. I'm going to have them sad while we over here celebrating. You want to have them sad. Yeah, because our fans, our fans actually DM us and be like, oh, we can't let the Steelers win. My best friend is a Steelers fan, this and that. So, definitely, I want to make you happy and make them sad. Yeah. The only thing that bothers me is when I'm not. Able to play because of an injury. Oh. That bothers me when I'm not able to be on the floor. That bothers me, too. Because, you know. I don't really like to watch that. Yeah, you know, I never, I never know if it was that, like, that game or that city. that a kid was coming to that was coming to see me and I'm not playing in that game. And that's the only thing that kind of bothered me. So, like, my coaches have been trying to get me to sit down for a long time because they'd be wanting me to take off games and I just, like, I don't want to do it. Why is that? I've never asked you that, right? You have MVPs, championships, all-stars, all the money, all the commercials, movie, you have everything. Why do you still have that 19 years later? It's just in me, man. I love competing. I love winning. I love just, like, playing the game. Because, I mean, I know at some point I ain't going to be able to play it no more. Well, at that level. Yeah. So, shit, why not? I'm trying to squeeze as much juice out of this motherfucking orange as I can. Well, I can. Why not? And I'm still good. And you're still good. If I was out there on some bullshit, like, nasty-looking brawn, I'd have been quick. But I'm still nice as fuck out there. So, like, I feel like every season for me is just, like, it's like a movie. Every season is like a movie. And I'm, like, living in it. Like, I'm the star in the movie. Like, it feels dopey shit. You sound really present. It's so present. I feel like Batman, Black Panther, all of them. Every single, like, I feel that way. You're having a singular experience. Everybody's having a singular experience. Yeah. I remember, like, in 2018, I remember everybody was just like, yo, everybody's out there. Everybody's having a bad year, except for Donald Glover. He's got all these things happening at the same time. And this is crazy. But my dad was sick. Exactly. Oh, shit. He was like, my dad died that year. Yeah. My grandfather died last week. Wow. Yeah. It's okay. It's okay. But look at the way the world is looking at you. But everybody's like, you're on top of the world. And the same thing happens when you fail. When people are like, oh, you're failed. It's like, but I got a family. Exactly. I have people who actually love me. I have. Yeah. And I think about this with you, because you're young. You're 25. But that life you're going to create for yourself that's yours, that's going to be more important. I'm protected. I know it doesn't sound important now, but that will be more important than winning the championship. And it's not right now. So I'm not telling you to make it more important right now. But when you build your little world, your little bubble that no one can fuck with, you can say you don't like my show. You can say you don't like me. I don't give a fuck. This is my little world. This is my bubble of love that no one can. You can't. You can't touch it. You cannot touch it. You know, I'm laughing. The thing about him in, like, a therapy session is there, but it's like, okay, Jose, what makes you happy? Drinking. Every Sunday. Every Sunday. 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