Kylie & Trinity Rodman on America’s Most Athletic Couple, USWNT Dominance & Public Toddler Tantrums | Ep. 77

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I like fully committed to this guy that I didn't even meet yet for him to stay at my house the entire weekend. Wow. Not going to lie. Finn's teething right now. And so I got approximately three hours of sleep. Also, she was surprised last night when Jason flipped over in our bed and she was in the middle and she said, da-da. Like she was shocked. And then I had to explain to her, this is actually our bed and you are the surprise. Let's get this podcast started. Welcome back to a brand new episode of Not Going to Lie, a wave original brought to you by CVS. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, a big fan of Squashy's candy. If you don't know what they are, you should. And honestly, I force fed them to Emma on a plane recently and she said, they're okay. I firmly believe you have to keep eating them. It's one of those. I recently found an old cup of milk in my car and it wasn't mine, but the joy of it was, is that it was actually not still in the cup. And you think to yourself, then where was the milk? It was in the cup holder. Sans cup. Yes. I had to scoop it out because at that point it was a little solid. And when I asked who did it, I got an unclear answer. And, um, I also, they giggled and I just tried an air one smoothie for the first time in LA. And there's a couple of things that I have, uh, I'm taking issue with. First of all, why is it enough calories for a whole meal replacement? Everybody knows you're supposed to have a smoothie. You're supposed to have a smoothie. With your meal. We're not chewing on anything. We were in LA for a couple of reasons for NGL. I got to sit down with some guests too, in particular, both absolute icons. And I'm still kind of thinking that it might not have been real, but Queen Emma's nodding. And she's saying it actually happened. It was delightful. I think you'll and maybe we'll eat some. If you don't know what I'm saying, that's fine. You'll find out eventually. We might even bleep that. Who knows? Emma might think that's too direct for both. Who knows? Queen Emma, are you going to let that stay? We'll see. The absolute, that is an absolute top tier mom answer. We'll see. We'll see. We will, won't we? We will see. I might just bleep parts of it. Perfect. Let's do that. So that's what you heard. Coming up on today's episode, a loaded doom scroll where I'm going to talk about how Jason would do in the pregnancy watermelon challenge. I'm also going to get some new ask me some things questions from the real ones about tattoos and public toddler tantrums. We've all been there. After that, I'm going to be joined by another gold medalist, star forward for the Washington Spirit and the U.S. Women's National Team, Trinity Rodman. No business. None. But here we are again. Yeah? Yeah. So stay tuned for that. But before we get to any of that, let's start things off with some real one comments of the week. And it looks like we're going with the theme of rage bait this week. That always ends well for everyone here. Someone said the podcast is great, but I don't understand why somebody with Kylie's intelligence, here we go, has to swear like she does. It's like listening to a 16 year old. I think I should be able to let my kids listen to the podcast and not be concerned about her. Terry. Can I call you Terry? Great. I really appreciate this. But if you look up intelligent people swearing, there are studies that were done that suggest that people who swear more, you guessed it, higher intelligence. So I'm not saying that, but also the insult of saying that you're listening to a 16 year old. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. You're saying I sound young. I'm actually going to take that as a win. So I'm really sorry that your kids have never heard you curse ever in their whole lives. Maybe when they grow up, they will decide whether or not they want to curse when it's appropriate for them to do so, much like my children. But they hear me curse all the time. We've set boundaries. They know that they're not allowed to do that. And then it's really just enhancement to my thoughts and feelings. Queen Emma, you're funny for choosing on this rage bait. Thanks. It's a quarterly reminder on the show. We love quarterly reminders where people like to say that I shouldn't curse as much. Here's the deal. I know when to and when not to curse. Now, this, my space, this is my space here in the studio. adults, right? That's what this podcast, the demographic that we are targeting is other adults. So I'm actually speaking the way I would speak to other adults. Now, when I speak to my children, I do not curse. When I speak at a coaching engagement or something with field hockey or something with young kids or a camp or this or that or anywhere where there are other people's kids within earshot, you're not going to catch me lighting it up with curse words, okay? I don't do it. We do have occasional swear-free episodes. The only brands that have been approved for a swear-free episode are Disney, period. That's it. So if you would like to go watch a swear-free episode, you can find two episodes of that. One with my mother-in-law, Donna. Shout out to her, my Disney queen. And the other episode is our Paris episode in Disneyland Paris with the Marr sisters, okay? Otherwise, I'm going to say whatever the fuck I want. So this is my episode. I'm going to say whatever the fuck I want. This podcast is actually rated adult explicit, not for children. And so if you have a problem with cursing, which we have made abundantly clear is going to be a regular occurrence on this show, you can kindly. That's right. You can kindly fuck off. This is an actual piece of artwork in my podcast studio. This is from GS Print Shop. Shop spelled S-H-O-P-P-E if you want to get yourself one. Well, now that that topic's been addressed for this quarter, let's get right into Doom Scroll of the Week brought to you by Bare Minerals. Powered. Life approved. First up on Doom Scroll, I've been seeing a lot of the pregnancy melon challenge on my feed. You know, it's watermelon season, so why not strap on to your husband in the heat of the summer? That makes a lot of sense. Queen Nama, can you show us? Famous last words. Famous last words. It's easy. So for our audio listeners, she did strap a watermelon to his belly with saran wrap, but she also doubled down. And by doubled, I mean she strapped two cantaloupes to his titties. He can't get his shoes on. he's picking up toys he's very out of breath i like this a lot i like this a lot because this is sensitivity training we can't have a whole bunch of feelings about how your wife moans and groans every time she gets off the couch or when she has to roll herself out of bed literally or when you're when your back hurts and and you know you you can't stand up too long and maybe uh maybe you can't get your shoes on that's for real for real i think that jason would have some trouble not why not because why you think well maybe uh i think football has done a number on his body already and i think that if we tried to strap this much weight to the front of him that he might have severe back problems for days the good news is is that he has bigger boobs than me already so i don't know that the cantaloupes are necessary but we could keep it on the we could keep it as an option i think that i would be more excited to do the period cramp simulator i like the idea of a tens machine because when you strap women to it and you slowly go up in levels there's really little to no flinching and we sit at a 10 with no problem and then you strap a man to it and studies have shown there's a little more hooting and hollering if you will maybe you strap the watermelon and the cantaloupes to your man's and then after he's been in there for let's say we'll be nice an hour we then put the tens machine on underneath of it because braxton hicks and contractions you know we'll see what's up with jay and maybe he wants to sign up for it i'll keep you guys posted next up women who have simply chosen not to have kids are getting a lot of heat lately on tiktok and literally since the beginning of time realistically fortunately these two women don't give a fuck what you think queen number the clip please you're talking to a girl and she says that she does not want children that is the biggest red flag in the world i don't give a fuck nice oh yes for audio listeners they are dancing around with some outstanding dance moves and quite a few red flags literal little red flags outstanding no notes now the judgment around women who don't have children is ridiculous because and i have said this multiple times i truly believe i did not i i never felt the need for women to have kids that was never a thought of mine i never thought to myself like all women should have children to fulfill like some fucking i don't know prophecy bullshit don't care i literally couldn't care less but when i had kids i get it more than i've ever gotten it and that happens both ways it happens for like you understand moms differently when you become a mom same shit you understand the women who have put a lot of thought into the fact that they do not want to have kids or have not been able to have kids okay because i do i want that to be clear and again we always get back to you don't know if they chose it or didn't and so i'm gonna need you to yeah you guessed it mind your fucking business yikes i need you to kick rocks i need you to not say anything i need you to mind your business unless you're saying you know what hell yeah i think to myself sometimes like if this house were empty i used to get actually oh god it was glorious i used to get to sit next to my husband on the couch it was glorious it was such a beautiful time in my life um that doesn't happen anymore not for now that's not the season of life we're in i'm not saying i don't like that i have my kids i love my children but i understand more deeply that other people would not choose this life that's all i'm saying and i think we should have more awareness to that and also those dance moves fire and lastly in a house full of girls we've definitely had similar makeup or wake up to quote benny incidents queen number the clip please the clip says parents this is why silence is dangerous um mom is trying to scrub pink and i'm not talking pink like a cute blush i'm talking pink off of this child's face she's probably three maybe four years old and pink um and then she has since changed it seems like the next day still pink so we had one dicey run-in with some makeup where benny was putting concealer on her lips as lipic because i wouldn't give her lip stick and uh that was the moment where i was like i have to give them something right i have to i have to give them a little a little bit of leeway here so i ended up giving them old washed brushes so there was no makeup on it but i would give them brushes when they would ask to do their makeup um it worked out okay i have not yet had them steal my makeup i have had benny continue to steal any and all lipsticks so i'm not saying i'm not going to give them any makeup but i'm not going to give them any lip products that are in her vicinity the girls are not allowed to do my makeup anymore because i thought that i had found a loophole of laying on the ground and letting the girls do my makeup and uh i had given them some water at some 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you this week by nfl sunday ticket on youtube tv every game every sunday all in one place queen emma has informed me that this is rapid fire so this is gonna take at least 10 minutes i'm kidding we're gonna do a rapid fire ready set first up from real one lil ready that's a great name what's a tattoo idea that you would consider getting a freckle okay hear me out i want to be able to say i have a tattoo and then i want to be like it's right there you see it it's right it's right there do you see it i know i'm tatted i don't have a single thing that i've thought to myself i want that on my body forever also my dad did tell me that if i ever got a tattoo in honor of him he would haunt my ass which were his words exactly not mine so i don't think big ed is really on board with tattoos i don't know i i don't feel the need to get one if there were ever a moment where one of our daughters came home with a tattoo as a teenager or older i would hope it was a good one all. I've seen a lot of tattoos, a lot of tattoos where I was like, that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen. That's a beautiful piece of art. That's incredible, unreal, absolutely stunning. But on the flip side of that, I've seen a lot where I was like, you know, the lines aren't straight. Isn't that going to drive you nuts? So as long as they pick a really great tattoo artist that isn't just messing around with a tattoo gun, I actually, I can get behind this. I'm okay with it. Nobody tell them. Don't tell them. God, don't tell them. I don't want to encourage it. I just, if they feel so inclined, we can have that conversation later in life. Ellie will have tattoos. I know that for a fact. Don't tell her I told you. I know she's going to be tabby. She loves when people have tattoos and she's my little artist. Rapid fire. Next up, any tips for handling toddler tantrums in public? Yeah, I do have tips for handling toddler tantrums in public. I think that you should handle a toddler tantrum in public without the fear of embarrassment or humiliation because of the crash out. I think that if you feel as though in that moment you need to stick to your guns and let that homie work it out, let them work it out. Let them yell. Let them scream. Let them do their thing. Let them throw themselves on the floor. I mean, they're only looking silly themselves, you know? Or stand them up and give them firm words. Get down to their level and give them firm words. What you're doing right now is unacceptable behavior and you need to stand up on your feet and stop yelling, please. And then when they don't do that, you need to say it without saying, please, stand up on your feet and stop yelling. And that's how I feel about that. I think the most important part of it is that if you bend in those moments, they remember. They're smart. They clock that shit. And so you can't always just be letting them get away with it. It's okay to parent your kids in public. They need to know how to act in public. So obviously, toddler tantrums happen for a lot of reasons. They're tired. They're having big feelings. Something happened that upset them. It's fine. All valid. But they still have to pull their act together. You know what I mean? This next one, just a heads up, is a question about miscarriage. And if that's a difficult topic for anyone listening right now and you'd prefer to skip ahead, please do so. The question is, were you scared to try again after miscarriage? We miscarried in March and not going to lie, I'm nervous to try. Yes, Sarah, I was terrified. And I will tell you, not that this is a healthy solution, but I'm going to call myself on the carpet for it. Even when we got pregnant, I then every single week was looking up what are the chances that this pregnancy sticks. And then once I got into my second trimester, towards the end of my second trimester, because I was still Googling at the beginning of my second trimester, like, what are the chances I get to meet this baby? At the end of my second trimester, I was like, I'm going to flip it. And I then asked the question, what are the chances that if I had the baby today that the baby could survive? Was it healthy? No. Was it helpful? Yeah, kind of. I think that sits with you forever. And what I will tell you is, Sarah, and I hope that you understand where I'm coming from when I say this, I had those same feelings through the rest of my pregnancies. Experienced a loss, and it's okay to have that grief sit with you. That is going to be something that might pop up when you least expect it. I know that for me, there are certain dates where I'll be like, oh, you were supposed to be here that day. But if I had not tried again, I would not have Wyatt. So. I think that sometimes you have to go at the hard thing and try again. I wish you all the luck in the world. I'm sending you all of the baby magic and baby dust. And I am so sorry that you had to experience that. But you are not alone. And I firmly believe that you can get through it. And last question here is one I'm getting a lot in my DMs lately. Will you be supporting Teacher Wishlist? Again, yes, we are. We're going to run it back for back to school this year. And I'd like to put my call to action out to the Real One teachers out there because we want to help as many of you as we can. So for the second year in a row, we're asking all the teachers to please send in a quick video telling us about you and your class and tag at NGO with Kylie. And please send us a link to your list at NGO with Kylie. Don't send it to my Instagram, please, because it gets lost in there in the depths. I never know how many lists we're going to fulfill, but it's kind of fun. Teachers, you guys are amazing. And I appreciate all the work that you do. And I want you to feel that appreciation. So send us your wish lists and tag us in a video. That's it for Ask Me Some Things brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. Trinity Rodman is coming up after these messages from me. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you next time. We kind of just got to see what's going on. You got to make sure. Yeah. All right. She is the gold medal winning star forward for the U.S. Women's National Team and the Washington Spirit. who's paving the way for female athletes everywhere with her record-breaking contract. She's your NWSL Player of the Month with nine goals and five assists so far. You know her iconic celebrations, her elite TikToks, her former pink braids that inspired little girls' hairstyles all over the world. Plus, she's a fellow Big Dog mom. And now she's not going to lie, Trinity Rodman. Welcome to the show. Wow, intro. Thanks for having me. We do it at a slightly quieter volume than the other podcasts. My husband loves to yell. But I just think you just unload the resume and it speaks for itself. In a calming manner. Yeah, exactly. It speaks for itself. I am such a big fan of not only watching you play, but also watching your stuff on social media is top tier. I love it. That's a compliment. That's the greatest compliment ever. I'm entertaining. That's great. Yes. Now, my husband and I went to the Olympics in 2024, but we sadly did not get to see any soccer. None. Well, you telling me that was irrelevant then, wasn't it? Well, it's because I feel like I have to confess it, that we did not get the chance. We watched rugby. We saw volleyball. What the fuck else did we see? We saw something else. But it wasn't soccer. And I feel a deep, great desire to see you guys play on the international stage in person. For some reason, in person, to me, feels like it might just be the vibes that I need to feel deep in my soul. You do. Everybody needs to feel it at least once. Okay. Yeah. Done. Okay. To Brazil we go. Oh, okay. Yeah, perfect. Even better. First game all the way in Brazil. That's great. Commitment. Great. Why not? Between the Olympics and the World Cup, is there one that you've. You've been more excited for? It's so tough. Because, obviously, we're more hyped for the World Cup just because we did so poorly last World Cup. So we're, like, ready to redeem ourselves. But at the same time, it's like, for us, having it in the U.S. for the Olympics is another, like, key thing that we're really excited about to be able to represent our country. And our country is really cool. And the fact that the men just did it and, like, seeing that and experiencing that as a fan, like, we're looking forward to that. But, I don't know, recently we played Brazil. And Brazil, it was crazy, so I can't even fathom what it would be like if we played them in the World Cup in Brazil. So, I don't know, they're both up there. Now, like you said, we just had the men's World Cup, which was so much fun to watch. But I think most will agree our benchmarks for success for the men's team versus the women's team. And I think that's what we're going to be looking forward to. I think that's what we're going to be looking forward to. I am not nonchalant. Yes, I'm very chalant. I'm bothered. Yes. Yeah, so it's been an interesting balance of like, what makes me me is the feistiness and like the one liners and the little like hits during the game and just like that personality but at the same time, it's like, it's like when it does come to big tournaments, you can't be as out there because it does cost you. And if you accumulate cards, it's so much different. So yeah, for me, it's been tough. I've been on a leash a little bit, but I still have my moments. I will say that I still coach high school field hockey and through my years of playing hockey and then coaching, I know that typically, for us at least, the person who is retaliating is the one who's getting the card because typically the ref doesn't catch the first part, they catch the second part. Would you say that you're just trying to finish a fuck around and find out? You're just trying to help people to find out? Sometimes maybe? Or is it most in your mouth? Because that brings me to my next point. I think it's a five. Sometimes. I think when it comes to like hitting people, it's retaliation from my side. When it comes to like shit talking, I probably will say it first or I'll do like one of these or like one of these. Yeah. So it just depends. Okay, well, bringing that up. I do. Again, we love a fuck around and find out around here. And I especially enjoyed your back the fuck up moment. We have that Oh, yes. It was great. I mean, about as clear as you could have possibly said it. And like a baby in the background to like, it couldn't get any better. Irrelevant. That's irrelevant. I'll tell you based on my own living room irrelevant. It's you can say those words whenever and wherever you want. Uh huh. Yeah, bro. How'd that feel? Did it feel as did it feel as good as it looks? Because it looks like you said it with an oomph that was like, yeah, take it. We have to might have to revel in this. If you are if you are. If you're maturing and calming down, then you have to remember these moments and let it eat. Was it good? It was good. Um, yeah, I think it was. No, honestly, like I was in my bed watching that edit like um, but I think just against certain opponents, like it just feels better. And like, I one of my closest friends now on the team is a Colombian player from that game. So it's just funny because certain teams, they just bring that out. And it's like, You do it back and they're like, so for me, it's just, it's just annoying. Who would you say, who would you say are the teams that bring that out of you the most? Colombia and Brazil, for sure. Brazil's, Brazil's up there. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of obvious. But also like one of my favorite players is Marta and she's got a mouth on her too. She's a psycho and everybody knows it in the best way. But yeah, I think it's just a good, it's a good matchup. I do think some shit talking really, it, it takes the game to another level. It excites you in a way that's like, now we can go. Like you're ready to run through a brick wall after you tell someone to back the fuck up. Yeah. The funniest part is the ball was like out of bounds. Like, yeah, that was great. But yeah, I completely agree. It fuels you. But like you, for me, sometimes it fuels me too much and I forget that I'm playing soccer. So. I need to balance everyone. Okay. It's, it's fine. You'll get there. We also recently got to see the reunion of Triple Espresso, as you guys call yourselves. You, Sophia Wilson and Mallory Swanson. First of all, amazing nickname. Who came up with it? My sister came to me with that name. She had texted me during the tournament because we had originally had like the Trident or something else. And we were like, absolutely not. That's not speaking to us. And then my sister texted me one time. I don't know if she came up with it or if she saw it. I don't remember exactly. She was like Triple Espresso. And I was, I was on the bus. So I was like, guys, like, oh, it's like, oh, so it's stuck. I very well done. Yeah. What do you think makes the three of you work so well together? I think our overall confidence individually is really good. And. We're so similar when it comes to the way that we play, but also so different. Like, we're obviously like very clinical in front of the goal or goal scorers. We're fast. We can one be one. But there are so many aspects of that that are different. But the biggest thing is trust. And the closer that we were getting, the better we were playing together. And like, we're sisters for life now. And I wouldn't even say we were that close before the tournament. I think leading into the tournament, we just like hung out more and we're obviously forced to be together. So. It just kind of happened. And then the more you get through the tournament, you're going through a lot of different emotions, but the same things. And it's you get on the field and you're just ready to like fight for each other because you trust each other off the field. So I would say trust and just like overall. Confidence. Now, throwing it back to where we started here, the Paris Olympics. Is that the first time that you wore the pink braids? Yes. And since then, girls all over the world. Over the world have been getting the Trinity Rodman pink braids. How does that make you feel? It's so crazy. Honestly, so bad ass. It's so cool. And it's so funny because it's like one of my proudest. I'm like, because it's not only because they wanted to do the pink hair. It's like the whole story behind it. And like me as a player, like, it's not just like, oh, it looks cute. It's like, I feel like it's the woman empowerment of it, of like, I was doing pink and I was girly, but also just being a badass. So I think that message carries along with the hair. And I think it's the coolest thing ever. I get so excited to see Halloween's where people are dressing as me. I think it's insane having like braid stations at games just so they can have like, it's it's unbelievable. But it's so fun. It's so cool. You did that. Did it. And it was great. Now, you're also known for staying late after your spirit games to sign autographs and meet. Kids. What was the most surprising thing that you've ever signed? You thought that was going to be wholesome. I know I was going to go home. So, yeah, it's very sweet that you do that. It's honestly, I would like to give you a moment for that's an incredible trait to have to know that you're having an impact, being a badass, that little girls are watching you and then they want to stand in and meet you. And so you give them the time to do that. But I do want to know what's the most ridiculous thing you've said. I mean, like, I feel like. Like, just like a baby's like forehead or like. So you have signed a baby, OK, you sign it off and then be like, sign my boobs. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I recently signed a butt. Oh, it was a girl's butt. It was welcome. She had a heart on her tattooed on her butt. And I was like, I'll sign the heart. I don't care why would someone want my autograph? I thought the same thing. Thank you for asking. Yeah, that's actually crazy. I'm surprised. Yeah. Um, um, no, I think that your guys's fans are a little bit more out there. I would say our fans are more tamed and appropriate. Mm hmm. Yeah, but a baby is controversial because the other podcast, my husband and my brother in law spoke about that quite a bit a long time ago about signing babies that I don't know if it was my husband or my brother in law. I don't know if it was my brother in law who was asked to sign a baby and they said no, because they were like, I can't sign a baby. But you did it. You signed the baby on the forehead for one. I if mom gave permission, if I have the mom's consent, then what am I supposed to say? No, it's a great point. I love that point to that. If I sign it and then the baby cries and that's a different thing. But no, it worked out. It was calm. The real ones know that I've had the same makeup routine since day one. That's right. All the way back to high school. I love bare minerals because it didn't cause any additional breakouts. It also was a nice, gentle blur on my skin. 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I just have never figured out when the best time is or when I want to do or when I'm ready or how it's going to develop my game. Like there's just so many unknowns. And for me, I think there was one side of me where it was like, okay, push as hard as for myself, but like vouch for everyone else and get players more. Because if I just leave, they don't pass the rule, then it's like, okay, we're back to square one. So not like there's so much more to me in this situation, but it was just such a big deal to me to like get this to actually happen. And even since then, like there have been like crazy deals in the NWSL above mine. So it's just, it's crazy. But with DC getting drafted there so young, that was like my first time to DC straight from like my one semester at college, I grew the biggest connection to it. Like I was immediately like obsessed with DC and where I was at and my teammates and everything. And then as I got older and experienced more seasons, more teammates, different coaches, all this stuff, like, oh, I'm, I like, this is my home. So even now, like my mom gets mad because I'm like from California, but I'm like, nah, DC is like my spot. So I don't know, just a home feeling. And then the fan base is absolutely insane. And I can't even fathom Audi not being my stadium right now. So I'm, yeah, I'm very content. I couldn't have imagined leaving this right now. That's so nice. The idea of, of going somewhere to play and it feeling like home, sounds like a beautiful marriage. That's lovely. Now the league is continuing to expand. Atlanta and Columbus are getting teams in the next two years. And as someone who loves to advocate for Philadelphia, what do you think about adding a Philly team? I mean, let's add them all. We're crazy. We're crazy. First of all, would like to just. No, I actually love Philly. And I think that would be a great, I love Philly. Please give us a Philly team. You're full of shit and I can tell. Well, if we got a Philly team and you still didn't come, that would be a problem. So I'll push for it. No, no, I'm coming. Here's the deal. As soon as I said that I haven't seen the national team, I think I've seen you guys play. Don't tell me. I know this. I blacked out. I didn't actually black out. That makes it sound like I was having a fucking good time. I was there at Subaru park when they, when, why? Oh, because Alex was, um, on a retirement tour. I still don't believe you. I'm going to have to, I'm going to see if Alex texts me in the picture. I just FaceTime her right now. Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh. I've seen a game and I wore the hat. I have a hat. Can you see it? Did it clear up? Okay. Well, does it even count if you barely remember? No, apparently not. So I have to come again. Do you, I I've said it a million times on here. I will never tell a lie. And when I came to that epiphany, I was like, wait a minute. He lied, but we have a lovely stadium and I think we could use the team. I'm embarrassed. I have secondhand. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. There's too much embarrassment just for me. A good God. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We got it. I feel like the only way to rectify this is to come down to DC and see a game there. Yeah. That makes sense. That feels like better. Yeah. I wouldn't be as embarrassed for you then. Now that we've gotten this confession out of the way, mother fucker, let's talk about a much more pleasant topic. Um, you're also known for your celebrations on the field. Do you have a favorite one that you've ever done? Because one of my favorites is when you hang up the phone. That's a good one. Doing that celebration. When I scored a little tap in that came off someone's shoulder, I'm embarrassed. Like I should have saved that for like a banger, you know, like in night, like good night. Um, no, I didn't. So I love that celebration. I wish I would have used it at a different time. Uh, moving on. Uh, my favorite one. Yes. I think I can't wait to insert a clip of whatever it is. I'm like a copycatter. I did Steph. So the night night celebration where I laid on the floor. Yeah. I just think that celebration sick. And like, I feel like I did my own little twist by going all the way on the floor. So yeah, I would say that's up there. That was a banger. So, um, you also at some point did the and end up, end up in a tour. You want to know what's funny about that one? Is that, um, again, another embarrassing moment. So I mean, if I have to be embarrassed, apparently I'm being vulnerable here. Not going to lie. Embarrassing. Um, that moment I was going through my back injury kind of. And so I had kind of gone through preseason on return to play, getting back, didn't really fix it. Go national team score. Uh, just kidding. Ha ha ha. Next freaking camp. I go on my hiatus for six months and I'm recovering my back because it actually was really fucked up. So imagine, imagine, imagine throwing it back so hard in a celebration. I didn't throw it back. I just, I, that would, anyway, there you go. That's, you know, that's an unfortunate series of events. Yeah. But you're on the other side of it now. Now, uh, for anyone living under a rock, your partner is tennis player, Ben Shelton. The hang up the phone was kind of a, an to honor him. Yeah. Um, now is it true that you guys met via DM? Is it okay? Who was it? First? Nice. Well done. Nice. Well done. Yes. Okay. Now everything I do is just embarrassing. Nope. No, no, no. I, this is a, this is, this is safe space. This is safe space. Uh, what did you say? What'd you say? I'm really, just tell us, just tell us. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what pickup lines I told my husband that on Tinder. I'll tell you. I said, you're sick. You know what? That's it. You know what? Short, sweet, and to the point that's actually, that's actually well done. You're sick. Fire emoji. Ooh. Take it back. Yeah. That's where it gets bad. It works. He responded within 10 minutes. So I win 10 minutes. I think so. I, it was a stretch. Okay. You had me choking because the fire emoji. Oh, um, I, my husband, I met on Tinder. That's not a joke. I, we actually swiped right on each other. And, um, I messaged him and said, I need life alert. I've fallen for you and I can't get up. Was that a dare? Nope. That was like, Hey, I'm about to eat. We were sitting in my friend's apartment and everybody was swiping on Tinder and we were all sharing pickup lines to send to people as jokes. Now. Okay. So I will tell you full honesty because we like to be honest around here. He didn't, he said you can do better to which I replied. If I told you I work for UPS, would you let me handle your package? Not my finest moment. This is so much worse, but honestly, like I don't think pickup lines are cringe anymore. Like I think it's just funny. Thank you. you for saying that i agree which is why we were doing it and it worked we have we're married uh eight years and have four kids we're fine yeah i think yeah i think we're in the clearing sealed the deal yep yeah yeah you know um now after those after those quick dms was it an instant connection yeah i think we because again our schedules were just so crazy that we dm'd and we're just catching up he responded and was like yeah you were sick at the olympics too ha ha um yeah and so yeah he matched the cringe situation and then um ias i think maybe like a week or two later we met in person he literally like flew out for the entire weekend i like fully committed to this guy that i didn't even meet yet for him to stay at my house the entire weekend wow that's crazy i'm like it's like actually that's a little risky no it's insane it's insane but again it worked out it did yeah i remember i was like waiting for him to get to my house from the airport because like i'm not gonna pick him up anyway he ubers to my house and i'm like on facetime with my sister and my mom like oh like ah i don't know what to do like i can't just be like sitting like do i put on a like show like what am i supposed to do with myself so i just like pretend to be like breaking down boxes of packages that i had so then it was so natural so that i'm like using like scissors and breaking down boxes and there's like a knock on the door i'm like oh look at that b i'm so busy and so i go to the door i open it little hug with i just walk back i'm like hey welcome in um walk straight back to my box and start breaking the you kept going yeah yeah and then he proceeded to help me so that's how i of course wow actually keeper stellar play on your part yeah because then you don't have to break down boxes by yourself and also the fact that he was willing to jump in is a green flag i'm saying everything happens for a reason and he showed his green flags that's very impressive um now the tennis channel has called you to the most athletic couple in america what do you think about that uh that's just like a crazy statement um is there any other couple that comes to mind because i think that you guys are if if you are not the top then you are certainly in the running yeah exactly see they have a point bam indonesia yeah they are power power couple same sport like that makes it even more like come on i do think that that that to me would be i give them a lot of credit because playing the same sport you can talk significantly more shit because you understand it at a deeper level yeah i feel like that could be dangerous though right like i would be scared to play the same sport because i feel like if ben were to say anything coachable i would lose my mind if he was right about anything you'd be like well we're done here yes exactly right now do you know a lot about tennis yes i've gotten i asked so many questions though like i didn't know anything and now like when i'm in the box with his dad i'm like hey what was that like what happened so i would say i know a lot about it now i know like tendencies of certain players now like all the things so it's fun to be able to like talk about it now and does ben have any input when it comes to soccer does he have any opinions how he has opinions did he play i feel like soccer is a common sport to start with yeah i think he played when he was really young um that's good yeah so he didn't know a lot about soccer either he did enjoy watching it um he's very invested now he has we have our little post game briefs on the games sometimes i love it sometimes i hate it but um or like the times where i don't want any feedback and like i'm sure vice versa but yeah he's really into it which is a blessing and a curse now in a more positive uh light what does it mean to you when you get to see him in the stands um like the best for me is when i'm in the stands and i'm like oh my god i'm gonna go to the stands and i'm like oh my god i'm gonna go to the stands and i'm like oh my god i'm gonna go to the the world honestly because i think to oh wait like to know we're both on the grind like running our bodies to the ground like always exhausted doing what we love and then to also be able to like be a little like wag in a sense like it feels so good for us like we do enjoy it a lot um because i don't feel like it's a sports like i don't look at him and i'm like you're not gonna be able to he's an athlete like i look at him like that's my rock and every time i do something i just love to be able to like look at him and know that we're on the same page thinking something like even if i do something cool i'll kind of like side eye him and i'll be like and he'll give me a look so it's just like i don't know it's it's great i love it uh you said the word wag earlier how do you feel about being called a wag um i have a certain opinion about it around here uh people have heard me go off quite a few times you don't like it i don't like it i knew that was gonna be i don't like it okay i think no um go ahead you can say it you like it sometimes okay for me i think i like the term personally because like i said before i feel like 24 7 i'm like on in front of cameras blah blah doing all this i have to be like this person yes and so i think i used the term wag for me to like simplify what i'm doing like for me saying wag is me just being like oh i'm just ben's girlfriend so i think that's why i enjoy that word but i can understand why it's so hated to be fair i think that that is very rational that you have established yourself specifically in the athletic world as being an absolute force and you have your own following and fandom and so you have done your own thing which is always my concern with the word wag when people say the word wag specifically in relation to nfl spouses or partners it's usually just like they use it to sum themselves up as like their whole and you're using it to sum up your support yeah so that makes i can actually live with that i actually love that that seems like such a lovely positive take on the term so beautiful it turns out i like it that not that you needed my seal of approval thank you i appreciate you the last thing i have for you i like to ask all of my guests about a favorite piece of advice that they've uh been given or is a go-to piece of advice that they give for you is there any go-to advice you would give young ladies who want to be like trinity rodman one day um being yourself and like finding yourself i feel like every part of life and especially being in like the public eye is just so much trial and error um and i just feel like what's been so beneficial for me is being genuine through it all and not caring what other people think um and ultimately i think that's what's made me successful is for how loud i am and how much i try and how much i fail and do wrong and then come back and do something great so i just think staying true to who you are while also figuring it out i think is really cool um that's all i got it's funny that you finished with that's all i've got because when i meet people and they're like oh you're exactly the way you talk on the podcast and i'm like that's all i've got because that is all we've got we just have to be ourselves yeah it's just that's amazing makes life so much easier i cannot thank you enough for coming on it has been an absolute pleasure to get to chat with you today i cannot wait to watch you play hopefully in la maybe in brazil and definitely in dc because i have to make up for this now october 10th be there done i genuinely cannot remember why i don't recall being at that game you think you were drunk or what i'd love for that to be the excuse but i don't really drink okay how freshly postpartum was i we're gonna look this up it might have been a it might have been a postpartum haze situation We're going to, we're going to figure this out. We're going to get to the bottom of it, but I'll see you on October 10th. And by that, I mean, I'll be one of the screaming people. Delightful. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for having me. This was amazing. You are an outstanding example. And I am really, really grateful that you are setting the example that you're setting and the putting in the hard work that you're putting in and, um, the waiting after to talk to people, sign autographs, take pictures. Um, it is putting out a kindness that I think is really important for young girls to see and, um, giving them your time is, is more impactful than I think you even know. So I really appreciate it. And I'm really excited that my girls get to grow up with their iconic era of women's soccer to watch like I had. So thank you so, so much. This was incredible. Oh, thanks. And that's it for this episode of not going to lie. 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