Kylie & Sandra Bullock on America’s Sweetheart, Betty White Reincarnated & Miss Congeniality Snorts | Ep. 79

You are called America's Sweetheart. There's a couple of us. - That exhale, Betty White is everything. I say is everything 'cause I know she's still floating around. Did you think to yourself, I look fucking hot? - No, you should've. - I put on a dress the other day and she said, "I like that, never mind, it looks bad." I was kidding on a Zoom and she walked spline, she went, "You know you can put a filter on that." What was Jason's take on your dorm room? - That's a large man into an Excel. - Not gonna lie. I may or may not have been recording some content today and hit my head. Good news. It's on camera. Bad news. I now have a unicorn horn. Or is that good news? I don't know. Let's get this podcast started. Welcome back to a very special back-to-school slash Sandra Bullock episode of Not Gonna Lie. A Wave Original brought to you by Apple Pay. If you were one of the many real ones who guessed our guest correctly from my very, very discreet clues last week, are we calling those discreet? Okay. Just know I'm thinking the exact same thing. I have no idea how we got Sandra Bullock to come on this show, but we did. And whether or not I have no business speaking to her, she was on and now you guys get to watch it. Okay, I'm gonna try and focus for now. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, indifferent on pumpkin spice lattes. Although fun fact, Queen Emma is a basic ass bitch and she loves a pumpkin spice. She holds herself together until September 1st and then she lets loose. I'm also a supporter of teachers everywhere. I grew up in a household where I had female influences in my life that we're working in the school system. And so I have a deep appreciation for educators and everyone that works in a school. I'm also a mom of four daughters, three of whom are back to school for first grade kindergarten and preschool three this week. Oh gosh. Coming up on today's episode, I'm gonna get honest about back to school in the Kelsey house, Spoiler Alert. We're one and a half days in and it's already as chaotic and ridiculous as you think. We're also gonna do a back to school special doom scroll where I'm gonna talk about what my dorm room looked like at Cabrini and the teacher who famously invented the fart corner. You heard that right? I said, fart corner, mm-hmm. After that, the real ones already know. I'm gonna be joined by one of my favorite actresses of all time, the star of Miss Congeniality and now practical magic too. Sandra Bullock. What? Oh my gosh. Just, yep, still can't believe it. Okay, we're trying to stay focused. Let's start with our real one comment of the week. This is from Real One Mimi SK on Instagram. We need Kylie's take on Oreo Gate, Paul Lee's and thank you. Okay, for anyone unfamiliar with Oreo Gate, here are the spark notes basically from parents.com. The issue began when a mom reportedly asked the parents in her daughter's kindergarten group chat to stop packing Oreos in their kids' lunches her reason. Her daughter wasn't allowed to eat them at home. The mom then reportedly contacted the school about creating an approved snack list. The school responded that while it encourages healthy choices, what goes into each child's lunch box is ultimately up to their parents. Now, I saw this, I saw this play out in a TikTok that was basically screenshot for screenshot and what the parent other parents in this group chat responded, which I will tell you, they were surprisingly gentle to this parent. My first instinct is just a really simple, like that's a you problem, right? I fully support the opportunity for parents to feed their kids whatever they feel is going to be the best choice for their kids. That is entirely your business. But you can't bring your thoughts and feelings into somebody else's lunch box. That's not for you. Get your nose out of their lunch box. And also not to take it that much further, but I'm going to do it anyway. I really feel like this is a learning moment that one of the reasons why I say no to my kids on a regular basis, besides the fact that they shouldn't just be given everything and anything they ask for is because I want them to hear and be comfortable with the response no so that when they get out into the world, that when someone tells them no, that they hear that, that they respect it and they listen. That's easy. I've met a lot of kids that hear the word no and either think that they're in trouble because they heard the word no, which is a little odd for me. Or they don't respect the word no because they're like, that's not an answer I get. I don't know how to respond to that. This is a moment for me for that mom to say to her kid, we don't have snacks like that in our household. And if so and so, if Sally has that in her lunch box, that's because I'm not her, I'm not Sally's mom. I will also say, I hope this school staff had a good laugh. I hope they had a belly laugh about this one because sometimes you gotta laugh so you don't cry or rip your hair out. I would like to also put this out there. If this weren't a situation where, let's say, hypothetically, or yours had some type of allergen in them that was severe reaction for the child in question that is not getting Oreos in their lunch box, then this is obviously a conversation to have amongst the parents of that classroom to be respectful of the child who has literal medical need. So let's just, let's go there. That's not the situation. The mom just doesn't want to tell her kid no and be responsible for the fallout of telling her kid no about Oreos. I kind of want to give that kid an Oreo. I'm getting a respectful decision. Well, since we're already talking about lunch controversies, let's talk about everything else back to school with a little, can I be honest, brought to you by MOTS, Apple to our core. This week, can I be honest about back to school with four kids, six and under? I can, great, let's get into it. Wyatt is in first grade and I'm gonna tell you last year we went through this, we went through the motions of, I shouldn't say motions, we went through the emotions of dropping her off or kindergarten and me realizing that was me dropping her off for school, for the rest of her life, so funny how that works. And so I was upset about that, but then I realized this year the difference between kindergarten and first grade, that's a grade, she's a grader, that's so messed up. She went in and she was a little shy. She was a little shy, but I think she felt good about the fact that Ellie was right next door in the classroom that she was in last year because now Ellie's in kindergarten. Also, rude, dumb, don't like it. Ellie did not want to leave my side. She clipped her little finger onto the sweatshirt that was tied around my waist and would not let go. She was clipped onto me like this. And would not let it go. She was very pleased about being in kindergarten, she told every single person she came in contact with, that's that morning, that she, it was her first day of kindergarten, which is adorable, one of the cutest things I've ever heard. And also like just salt in the wound, over and over and over, and Ellie always says goodbye to me. Usually she turns around and usually it's like a by-mom, I love you and very enthusiastic, unlike my first child who does this when not turning around, still gets me. I don't ever want them to cry. Part of me is like I want you to be sad about leaving me, but also I would hope that your enthusiasm and excitement for school overrides that emotion and does not cause tears. That worries me, I don't want them to cry. I don't want them to cry especially when I'm not there. I did not cry this year and here's why. I had field hockey this morning. So this morning was the first official get out of the car, don't, I didn't go, like nobody goes in with them. I didn't cry this morning because I had field hockey and I didn't have to drop them off. Tomorrow, who knows? Every single first day of school, we have taken a picture in the same spot on a little path out in front of our house, the little walkway. I take it in the exact same place every year and yesterday I took individual photos of Wyatt and Ellie and then I said, "Will you guys go stand next to each other?" And I'm not kidding. They stood about three feet apart and both looked like they were taking mug shots. They had completely straight faces and were nowhere near each other. And I was like, "Hey guys, can you act like you like each other?" And Wyatt proceeds to continue standing in the exact same spot and Ellie goes over and smushes her face into Wyatt's shoulder and squeezes her as hard as she could. And I was like, "This is the perfect depiction of the two of you." I do not do the board because, guys, you know I'm not. I'm not type A enough for that. If I had a board, I would have lost it after the first time. That's a lie. Guys, I bought a board this year and I still didn't use it. Maybe I'll use it for Benny. Let's be real. That's two weeks from now. I'm probably gonna lose it by then. One thing I'm not excited about being back is me being back to packing three tiny human lunches in the morning. It is garbage. It is so, oh God, it's just so daunting, which sounds ridiculous. I know that there are bigger problems in the world than making lunch. And I would like to say the hopefully obvious sentiment of I am very fortunate to be able to have food to put in my kids' lunches, I am. It is so daunting to look at three empty lunch boxes and have to make sure that you're putting in the things that those individuals are going to eat. Typically, I'll take maximum 12 minutes in the morning to make lunches. I'm not doing cute little bento boxes. I have not gotten into the whole like, let's pour the boiling water into the hot cup and then put the mac and cheese in there. It's still piping hot. I'm not that mom. I don't want to do little shapes in my shit. I don't want to, I don't want to do any of that. And to be perfectly honest with you, occasionally I will put a note in there or a little treat that gets more of a reaction, a positive reaction from our girls than I think shapes or anything else would. For allergy purposes, not of my children but of other people that we are around. The thing that we have defaulted to is a bagel and cream cheese. Occasionally we'll do like banana muffins and I will get this. Wow, you guys are going to come at me for this one. Sometimes I put cottage cheese or yogurt into the muffins so that there's a little more substance or protein in them. Whoa, going against my own words there, huh? Not often. Do not, don't even be out here being like, she makes muffins, fresh muffins every morning. I don't, occasionally I do that. You want to know when I do that? When I've bought too many bananas and my kids have told me no about bananas so long that they go brown. And then I try to do one thing that is like a refrigerated good which would be like a cheese stick or a yogurt tube. One of the fruits my kids will consistently eat our apples. The problem with sending apples is that you wash them off when you get them. So then do you put them in a baggie so that they don't get dirty in the lunch box or roll out of the lunch box and get dirty? Do you pack them with the paper towels so they don't get bruised but like we've all seen how kids treat their backpacks? This is a whole thing. And honestly, it's what has driven us exactly where you think it's mott's applesauce, pouches. And they sponsored this segment, but I'm being dead ass. I grew up on mott's apple sauce. So we always used to have a container of it in the fridge 'cause everybody knows ice cold applesauce on pork chop night. Cold applesauce, yum. Especially when it's still hot like it is today and they're probably sweaty and gross at school and then they get the refreshing cold applesauce, yum. And also an apple takes a while for a five, six year old to get through. I don't know about your kids, but my five year old can make like a 30 minute ordeal out of a single apple. The kid in my house that loves this the best is Finn. I truly think that if we let her eat as many as she brought to us, she might eat six in a day. Now, I don't actually let that happen. We say no to her about the six applesauce is in a day, but she'll try. Guys, you can feel good about this snack. It's made from real apples. There's no added sugar. It's real ingredients that you can feel good about. And you can also feel good about the fact that it's easy to eat for the kids. It doesn't get all over the inside of the lunch box and you can't bruise it. All right, that does it for. Can I be honest about back to school brought to you by MOTS? Sandra Bullock is coming up very soon, but first, a quick back to school edition, a doom scroll of the week brought to you by Apple Pay. First up, apparently, people are spending an absurd amount of time and money decorating their dorm rooms now. This is crazy to me. Watch this clip. No, immediately no. Guys, we're doing-- yes, yes, yes. I mean, people are doing peel-in-stick wallpaper, marbled peel-in-stick wallpaper, on their desktop. They are bringing in Ikea furniture to make it look like they have a full-sized dresser. There are whole decorative chairs happening. There are window treatments. There are framed things on the wall, framed, framed. Let me tell you high-end luxury of when I was in college. OK? High-end luxury lights around the top of the room. Christmas lights are on the top of the room. Tapestries? Big deal. The idea of hanging up framed photos blows my mind because all I can see in a dorm room. Truly, all I can see is either there were two options, OK? You were either putting string across and clothespinning your pictures up, or all of your photos really tight together in a collage formation. And also, once in a while, I had a car van in a dorm room and we had to cut a piece off the car because someone had too much to drink. And we couldn't even smell that corner of the car. We literally got a square out. Guys, college. College, you don't need this. And also, but at the same time, here's the thing. At the end of the day, if this is what makes you comfortable, if this is what helps you to not feel as homesick, if it gives you the comforts of home, if it makes you feel better for you, have at it. But I do think there should be a hint of struggle. What was Jason's take on your dorm room? Queen Emma wants to know. LOL, gotcha. Yeah, he was in there. He was in there. You know what? That's a big man in a Twin XL. That's a large man in a Twin XL. I'll tell you what. He didn't fit well. But you know what? I do love a snuggle. All right, last scroll. I've said it before. I come from a fart-funny household. Farts are funny. That's it. There's nothing-- that's as straightforward as I can get. Farts are funny. And if you don't think so, I'm sorry that that's-- you're missing out. You know I have thoughts on the viral fart corner that this teacher instituted. Let's see it so we can check it out together. This is our-- It's a sign that says fart corner. This is our fart corner. If you need too far, simply come over here. Fart, take about 10 seconds. Yes. You feel a little spray going on? Yes, go sit down. Nobody's fan attention. Nobody cares. Nobody's worried about it. Now, I love this for so many reasons. I love it because, first of all, it's hilarious. Second, I love it because it normalizes farts, which is a bodily function. And we should really chill out about it, but also they're funny. Now, obviously, when you see something that is this out of the ordinary, and, again, funny, where do we go, everyone? To the comments. That's right. We sprint to the comments, because that's where we belong. [LAUGHS] I can't. The first comment says, why-- hold on, I got it, I got it, I got it. Why isn't it called the gas station? Oh, God, people are funny. Next comment says, everyone is paying attention, and everyone is going to get her L-O-L. Oh, my God. The next one says, when they're-- it says when they're bad, move their desk over there. Oh, my God. I can't. Anyway, my initial thoughts on the fart corner is that this is hilarious. I would like to bring up the fact that one of these comments brought up a great point. Everyone is going to pay attention when you end up in the fart corner, and everyone is going to care, because, again, farts are funny. Maybe we should start a new graph. No longer suck my ass. It's farts are funny. I want to know from this teacher, if the corner is used. That's what I want to know. I want to know the frequency of use. I also want to know what age classroom this is in. I feel strongly that it has to be elementary school. If it's not, there is no way in hell. I mean, not a chance in hell that a middle school or a high school is showing up in that corner. I have told my kids, don't trust a fart at school. If you need to fart, you need to go to the bathroom. Because my fear is that they're gonna trust a fart that they shouldn't have trusted. And then I'm gonna get called, hey, can you bring some new underwear up to school? We're gonna need some new aunties. I don't want that. I'm not saying it happens often. 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She's one of my and your favorite actresses of all time. The Academy Award winning bad ass you know from such iconic movies as Miss Congeniality, the proposal, speed, the heat, gravity, and of course, practical magic. Speaking of practical magic too is out September 10th. I cannot fucking wait. She's also a fellow mom, animal lover, and now she's officially not gonna lie. I can't believe I'm saying this. Sandra Bullock, welcome to the show. I'm gonna start with my own not gonna lie. Okay. I was very recently watching Miss Congeniality with, which is one of my favorite movies. It's the best. With my nieces, my teenage nieces who had not seen it to their credit, they don't watch a whole lot of movies. Okay. But I was like, you need to see this. This is like, this is like the right of passage. You need to watch this movie. There's no way you should be going about your life without having to see this movie. I agree. And so Neal is to say, I put the movie on. And it fell asleep. No, no, we proceeded to get distracted by my young children. Okay. And so we ended up in like this story. Yes, it's lovely. Like, make it she finished it. Okay. Well, we did not finish watching it that time. We did end up getting back to it. But the one person who stayed in the living room and watched it till the finish was my husband by himself. That's right. Because we made it for men. Yes, everyone knows that. It's how to guide. That's it. Jason loves the movie. Obviously he sat there through it and was like, yeah, I get it. And I was like, no, no, like you need to, like the girls need to see this, talking about our nieces. And he was like, like, is this like top of the list? And I was like, wow, it's like very high on the list of movies that are. How do you think they should have seen 17 and 18? Okay. I cannot emphasize how much I love that movie. It's a, it's, it's, it's sweet. It's like good natured. It's so good. And like, you know, William Schattener, I mean, how, it, you can't, it's a can't. It's just in Benjamin Bratt and all the girls in Canispray, it just, it just worked. No one thought it would really go figure. Um, yeah, and we were shooting an awesome. It was like a hundred degrees like for 90 days straight. We smelled like cheese. It was horrible, but it was, it was a bunch of good natured human beings going, we just want to make people laugh. Yes. And we did. And we did. Yeah. And it was outstanding. Yeah. Yeah. I can never figure out what part of the movie sits the heaviest with me. It's like, I, which, which one is my favorite? I do think it is the trip and fall is just, oh, it's just the art of the trip and fall. It's one of the best reveals. Which trip and fall did you like? There was a trip, the, the trip and fall on the, on the makeover. In the, in the, in the area, the leisure dress, which had like eight spanks underneath and like seven chicken. Because it was happening because it didn't look like it. That whole dress is basically a walking spank. It's like, they put it in the palm of their hand to hear wardrobe, but I was like, some things are just going to move too much. So I put on like two sets of spanks. I had the chicken, you know, the little chicken cut list of six of those in the heat sliding all over the place. I mean, it was, you know, and on when you, the trip, there was a little mat down there and things would move and they'd have to slide them back into position because so much of what's up there is not me. I know that. But it was, you know, I love a, I love a fall. I love a, an accident. It was. I love an accident. I love it. Now, have your kids seen Miss Congeniality? They have. They don't care. All. They don't. They, you know what? I'm kind of glad that they don't care. Sure. Like, I don't want them to know that what might, like people who do jobs that go to the office every day, the kids don't care. That's true. They just care if you come back with stuff for them. They knew about craft service. Yeah. That's what my job was. I said had extensive craft service. This is so relatable because my kids think that when they go to football, they get water ice. They get wet. Water ice. Water ice. What is water ice? Like a shaved ice plushie, but you eat it with a spoon. Yeah. Wow. Read us. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I described it like that. That was so disrespectful. Me. It's, but they swear they're like one of the last times we went to football. Yeah. Even when their dad is playing? Yes. Okay. Because it's boring. I mean, he's, so he's not that he's playing is boring, but to the children, this, oh, for sure. Yeah. He's, like, this would be boring because third season, not playing. And so we went the first season. He wasn't playing. To training him, we went to watch football at us. No. And, but they got water ice. So they were liars. Completely fine. Yeah. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. That, that tracks. Yeah. It does. Okay. I do have one more question about Miss Congeniality. Okay. Is, is it true that the Gracie's snort was not an escrow that that was actually me. That's me. That's me. Because when I, when I exhale, I got to take equal amounts of air back in because it's a bad sound. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's a passing up thing. Yeah. Because when it's really good. Yeah. It's all got to come out. Yeah. So specifically with the cups, yeah, outstanding. But the self-defense lesson. Good, right? So good. How to do self-defense. That, that outfit, brilliant, was made by the costume designer for the, the ballet company in Austin. It was, it actually makes a lot of sense. It's good, right? With a two two. But you, you always want to make sure that the portion of your thigh that you're not happiest with is covered up. Sure. So I was like, can you lower the two two? No. You got up on that stage and the camera was down there and went, oh, no, you're not getting me pregnant. Don't go below the two two. You know, we covered that. Yeah. Yeah. So it was all about navigating the two two in the camera angle. That's so good. Now, that town show, show dress was an icon, of course. Yes. And I'd love to talk to you more about your movie fashion with a game. We sometimes like to play called blind ranking. Blind ranking. Okay. So it's not boyfriend with that. No. No. No. No. So Queen Emma has five images here of some of your most memorable. Queen Emma here. Yes. Queen Emma was right back there. You're the Emma. Yes. Yes. Oh my God. Like I had you as really, really tall and like you came in like wow, that's such a little crown that you know, okay. So Queen Emma has five images here of some of your most memorable movies. Am I not supposed to see them? Because I saw this one. We're going to, we're going to look over you, but you have to rank them one through five. Okay, one being the best. Okay, you're gonna give them all to me. So I don't know. Oh, you're not a surgeon. That's the blind part. Okay. Okay. First up, the wedding dress from the proposal. What's Betty's hands on my boobs? And her quote saying it's like an Easter. I'm trying to find your boobs. Yeah, standing. Hello, it's still good. It's like some things never changed, but only Betty gets to search. Was she everything? Betty White is everything. I say is everything, because I know she's still floating around. We had a day where we were on this little boat. It was Ryan, Betty. We can just me. I don't think anyone else is on it. And it was freezing. And they're like, Sandra, do you want a jacket? I'm like, yes, I mean, these heels and I'm freezing and I have this big downcoat and Ryan's got a downcoat. And then I sit down next to Betty and I'm freezing. And I'm like, well, you get Betty and they go, Betty, do you want anything? She was no one fine. I'm like, fuck her. She is. She was the epitome of a human who lived her best life, found the best love made lemonade out of absolutely everything had timing. That was unbelievable. Incredible. The women of that time, if you look at that, the comedians had the most incredible timing. Yes. And to watch her work was like, like nothing. You just don't even bother to say anything, find, don't try. Just let it be Betty because she just, she just could own a room. She's incredible. Our three-year-old currently asks for the gold girls. The gold girls. She's watched the gold girls. So we watch golden girls in the morning, sometimes when it's just my three-year-old. That's kind of fair. She wears pearls. She's, she's a star. She's very special. She's reincarnated. She's like, I'll be Betty. What if she was Betty? So the proposal. Yes. So am I going to rank that? Yes, you have to rank that. Look, the wedding dress from the proposal. Because of Betty, I say too. I don't want to put it one because you might come. I need to need. I might need a number one. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Number two. This next one is practical magic when you're, you're doing the run. No, that t-shirt, gene shorts boots. And again, faith hill saved me in the scene because more was bouncing up and down that shouldn't have been bouncing. It wasn't that was the bot. I was like, you know, and you're like, please don't make sure the camera doesn't see the landing part. You know, when you hit and everything just goes down like that. So that's why the short shrinks that length and not a little shorter. I have to tell you, this is this outfit right here. Is a perfect example of I still coach high school field hockey. Yeah. I tell my athletes all the time that we had it first. This outfit today would kill. Slap. Kill. As the kids would say. The wellies, they wouldn't do so much. We need to bring those back. The hundreds. I've got a whole closet full of them. They're just they're making outfit. Yep. Yep. But the, I mean, yeah, I'm a saying slay. Slay. Queen Emma says slay. I always laid that day. But this is, but this is the type of outfit where like you were then, it fit. Yeah. And now it's it's it's it's all that. And I got I got to run to Mark Forrestine. He was so beautiful standing there with that smile and an apron. It's got a nice, not a bad finish line. Not a bad finish. I put that it. Oh god, this is going to be hard. So I'm trying to think of what else that you could. I might have to put this at five. Okay. Don't give me that look because you're going. Do you really want to put it? Yes. I'm going to put that at five. All right. Okay. I mean, I don't know. I have a different me. I have a different ranking. Okay. God. Okay. Okay. But I know it's coming. I'm remembering how I felt in the in the close. Yes. It's all about how you feel in the outfit. Yes. I'm remembering the imprint on my brain when I saw you in it. Okay. Okay. You have this one. I think this is I for me. You got another one number one. Oh snap. Next up is the purple dress from Ms. Congenial. Do you know if the amount of effort that went into making that that I might have to put that at number one. Thank you for doing that. Yeah, you're we do have it. We have to show we have to look at the clip. It's all been. I mean, are you kidding? I mean, right? It's like in hell. And what you don't see in this is that my face from the night before we'd shot like a 13 hour night, you know, that green face mask I had on. Yes. I didn't want them touching this. Just leave it on. Just keep you and it started cracking and it cracked my skin. So I had little road maps of where the cracks were. So you don't see that here because film is forgiving. Bad crack. Outstanding. Yeah. I'd crack. Did you think to yourself? I look fucking hot. No, you showed up. I don't think I'm trying to honestly think of any time that I thought I felt hot. And it's always when you're like roll out about like you have your hair is just cute and tassled and like a pair of jeans and t-shirt and no one can see it. Yes. That's what I look on. It's wasted and it's wasted on my children. Well, is it wasted on us? We get to see I get to see it. Yeah, I get to see it going. You know, if anyone gets a photo of me looking like that, it's never as cute as I thought. We are. It doesn't translate. Interesting. But I don't think I've ever left the house thinking I look hot. You killed that scene. That scene because I could make it funny. I knew the lead up was to a funny. That's why I could work it like that. If I was trying to be serious, I couldn't work it like that. Okay. That's fair. They asked me to run away and I say, I can't kidding. No one has ever left. You guys are like, really? Why would you say no to that? No, why would you say something like that? Because they haven't asked because they shouldn't ask me. Okay. So are you putting that at one? That's it one. Yeah. Yes. Yes. So we got that at one. We have Betty at two. We have shorts at five. Yes. And we have two more coming. Did you get to keep that dress? No. Okay. We had such a low budget. That was a big designer. And we had to return almost everything unless we built it. Has anyone worn it since? Have you seen it? Can they? That's what I'm saying. You know, it's a drag queen needs to work it like with really long legs. That would be good. Root. Hit it. You hit it. Okay. Now we have to throw this one in there for funsies. We have gravity spacesuit. Oh, I have that. I have that. I have that. Okay. So you guys took it home. I got to keep that. I took that home. Yeah. Okay. I have that. Was it fun to put on? Was it heavy? That was fun because by the time I was in that, I was sitting in the Soyuz George. And I didn't have to pretend like I was doing Martha Graham because that was all me doing slow motion movement while, you know, I was speaking at normal speed. But yeah, it was actually very comfortable, really comfortable. Now, you've worked with some incredible actors, George Clooney and Halfway, Kiana Reeves, Melissa McCarthy, just to name a couple. If you could reunite with any of those co-stars, which would you choose? It's a hard one because it's like, who makes you better? Like, who makes you like battling with Melissa comedically? Like, I will go back to anybody for the funny if it's the right setup. You know, I don't want to repeat too much. I know we do in practical magic too, but I feel like that wants to be said for a plethora of reasons. I love working with Hugh Grant. He's so brilliant and crabby and just he's brilliant. He's crabby. He owns it and it just works for him. I don't think, you know what, Betty White, bring back Betty. If I could have another moment. I would see what I did for everybody. See what I did, though? Yes, please, dear God. Now, where are you ranking this space suit? Oh, God. Yes. So I've got one and two covered. One and two. One's got three. Let's go. Three. Perfect. Yeah. Now, number four. I know what it's going to be. It's going to be the two. It's not. Oh, one and a million. It is one and a million. Oh, that scene when we shot that, that we all were like, all of us girls, when we shot it, we were like, we are the best dancers. We are fabulous. Like we were working. We were everything. You guys nailed it. We nailed it. We had a the coach who coaches actual pageants. The man who was there was beautiful. He was so beautiful. Like he was buff. He had that tassled hair sort of, you know, like jeans, t-shirt, kind of guy. He was, didn't want us, but no, looked like he maybe could have wanted us, but didn't, but we were all just so in love with him. Anything he asks to do, did he go, could you guys lean for him? We're like, like this? Like that more? Yeah. He was, he was incredible. But when the music played, we were in an auditorium and at over at UT. And we thought we were the, we were just it because you were it. We were. Do you remember the choreography? Oh, yeah. Well, no, no. When I see it, I go, you're like, I, I, pieces of it, pieces of it. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll hit it later. So that'll be, that's four, right? Yeah. No, you're going to hit it because you've seen it more recently. I have seen it multiple times recently. Do you know the choreography? No, no, no, no. I am next time we see each other. I'm not, um, don't have to be. I'm, you just need hands on hand to come teach you. Perfect. Yeah. Come through. Please. Yes. Um, now is it true that you purposely didn't do dance rehearsals so that Gracie would come off more authentic and a little more clunky? Yeah. Because I love to dance. - Do you? - I love it. - I love it. - I love it. - You can teach me. - You want to, you want to, we can do a little session. - Perfect. - I just didn't want her 'cause like my desire was like, I have to look as good as possible. Like my, I'm like, you know, and she can't look that great. - No, yeah. - But she has to do her job and assess the crowd. - I love it. - Yeah. Okay, how do you, do you feel good about the rankings? - I do. - We didn't kind of took it easy on you without throwing a football and a thing on there. - Thank you. - Yeah. - Later, hose in the last. - Yeah, let me, yeah. - Weird. - Well, we talked a little bit about practical magic earlier, but I'm excited to talk to you about practical magic too. Once again, it's out next Thursday when this episode releases. We rewatched practical magic one, magical. True, like, in every sense of the word. What is the best part about playing Nicole Kidman's sister? Is that like in real life, we are completely different. But oddly matching when it comes to life experience, like things how we approach things, events and like like, weirdly like, we could, it's like two halves of a hole, the same thing as it is in the movie. And we play off of each other the timing really well because you just give us a set of lines in a situation and you put us against each other and it's gonna work because we approach it in completely different ways. And if we have to be combative, it works. If we have to be loving, it works. And we both fall into who we're supposed to be as a sisters really well. - Now, the soundtrack on the first one before we started filming, we were talking about how it was perfection. - It was perfection, it saved us. It actually was the whole other character in the film. - It's crazy because I mentioned we re-watched it yesterday, it was time after time of me being like, oh God, good song, yeah. Now, I would like to know. - Yeah, I need you to tell me. - Okay. - And we can believe it if we need to. - Okay, yes. - Are there any like sleeper songs in this one where people are going to be surprised and excited? - You mean by the artists that are in it? - If that's. - Or is there a song that I think will really hit and make people just go? - Yes. Can you tell us where it is? Well, believe it, although it's out tomorrow. - I cannot tell you this song. - No, there's a song in it that. Is there one that comes to mind? Yes. - Damn it. - Yeah, there's one that comes to mind. It's a cover of a song. - Oh. - That Brandy Carlyle does. - Okay. - And it was one of my. It's a song that I've been carrying around for like 20 years but this is the greatest song. And she said she would cover it. And it's a song that has to cover three scenes in three different generations. And it's that song that. 'Cause I kept saying, when we were making the film, I kept looking up at the sky going, I didn't know like about my mom and my grandmother. I didn't know you as young. I didn't know what your feelings were. I didn't know you had the same feelings in the wants and the longing that I did, you know. And I think most kids can say that of their parents. You just know them as old parents. - Yes. Even though they might have had you as a teenager, you're just still an old parent. And so I looked at that and I was like, what song supports saying I didn't know and I'm sorry, you know. And but I'm always gonna be here. And there's a Billy Joel song called In So It Goes. And she covered it. And it just like, it's really beautiful. - Gets right in the fields. - Yeah. - Well, yeah. So now we know. - And as to all the mamas and the grandmothers going, we wish we would have known you at our age. And when we were younger, so we would have known what you longed for, what dreams didn't come true, who you were, when you were brave and wild, you know. So we're screwed. - Yeah. - Bring the tissues. - Got it. - No, I know we can't spoil anything, but I have to ask our Midnight Margarita's back. - Yes. - But in a different way. - I love that. - Yes. And do you have your own personal version of a Midnight Margarita? Because we were brainstorming ahead of time. And I think that mine would be like an eight o'clock Alipop. - Thank you. Alipop? Virgin Alipop, just probiotic drink. Like it. I like to call those kind, you know, the drink drinks are called mamas little helper. - Perfect. - And if they happen, they have to happen fairly early in the day. - Great. - 'Cause I like to be in bed by a certain time. - So a Midday Margarita. - A Midday Margarita. - Yeah. - Because I like to be in bed. So I can get up at the 530 time. - Yes. - What time do you go to sleep? What time would you like to be in bed? - Thank you for asking it that way. - Yeah. - I would love to be in bed and asleep by 930 at the very latest. - Thank you. - Thank you. - I like to say that whenever we go out to dinner, I like to call it the AARP special. I like to have a 515 reservation. - Thank you. - That's how I like my dinner. - Yeah. - I don't want to have an indigestion. I want to go to bed after I have had time to sit up digest properly. - Watch a little something on the tele. I'm just a good mindlessness. Get the sheets pulled up right to here in the jammies. - Yes. - Yes, with you, totally with you. - So what time do you? - So it depends who's in the bed. - Yes, and who has decided that they can or cannot fall asleep. - Yes. - I mean, recently it's been like a 1030 situation. - Yeah. - When the sun's up later, they're up later. - Yeah, yeah. So they have a tendency of that. - Yeah. - Someone who has been given some ridiculous names. Wait, you were given a name? - I've been given names. So there's a letterman jacket and Eagles Philadelphia Eagles letterman jacket that was famously worn by Princess Diana. - Really? - Yes. - And it was iconic. It's incredible. - In Philadelphia, it's like one of our claims to fame. It's embarrassing. - That's incredible. - Honestly. - Yeah, do you have a photo of it? - Well, we can get a photo of it, but they re-released the jacket, and it was a limited release. It was maybe 500 of them. - A letterman jacket like that. - It's high school boys. - A winter, so this is the jacket. That's her wearing it. And so they for charity, 'cause I wouldn't have agreed to it any other way, I recreated the photo with the jacket. So. - Look at that. - Yep. - Yep. - Don't look at it too long. - Why, 'cause that's not your head and not your body. - No, 'cause it's embarrassing it. - I don't like having my photo taken. - I'm just saying you're so photogenic. - Thank you so much for saying that. - It's a very pixelated screen. It's okay. - We like to call that soft focus. - Soft focus. - We love a soft focus. - I love soft focus, yes we do. But because of that, I got the nickname Princess Cayana, which is ridiculous. - This is Cayana. - There's also the Duchess of Delco. It's a don't look too much into it. (laughs) - Was it looking? Go ahead. - But, this all takes me to the side. - This is going somewhere right here. - We're going somewhere. - No, there's a destiny. - That's making sure. - And it's not dollar counting. - So long show. - It's, that you are called America's sweetheart. - There's a couple of us. - That exhale. - Yes, there's a couple of you that in the summary one searched, Meg Ryan and Shirley Temple. - Oh, Shirley's in there? - Shirley's in there. - It'll show. - It'll show. - It'll show. But think about it. No one knows who Shirley Temple is. Go back and look at this. - I'm like crying. - Like crying in your soup. - I'm meeting this girl just so good. - I still feel like she was like a 50 year old woman. That just didn't have a gross part. You know what I mean? She was an old lady in that tiny little body. - She was Betty. - Yeah, I was basically like, (laughs) so I went from Shirley to Betty to your daughter. - Yeah. - To Betty. - To Betty. - Betty Betty. - There you go. - There you go. - There you go. Now, do you agree with this title? - Of being America's sweetheart? I love that you looked at me like, what title? - Well, I was like, what? - It took us, it took us, it took us. - We went on a journey. - Are you America's sweetheart? Do you know what? It's, I didn't give it to myself. It comes with a lot of responsibility that I don't think I'm prepared to carry. - Okay. - If it's me just trying to do the right thing and be a decent person, great. I'll take it. It does sort of put you on a pedestal that you don't belong on. And then you fall off the pedestal. And that's what happens daily. You should probably ask people who know me if I belong there. Does she belong there? But don't ask her. She's a publicist. She's gonna say, she's gonna say yes. I love working with her. - That's why she's asking her stuff. You don't ask the publicist. - Yes, I'm getting very enthusiastic. - Have the people that live under my roof. I think, you know what, it's nice. It's really nice. It's a lot of responsibility. - Okay. - Yeah, 'cause you can't have a bad day. I think public. - I think you can. - Not a public. - Well, I will say, I have a feeling you also get this, but people often tell me that I'm relatable. - Oh, you are very much so. - I, thank you for saying that. - I think it's your body mouth. It's like that you love an F-bomb. - I actually, I always relate this, I relate being relatable to being a mess. Like, I think that it's real. I think it's the gentle way of people being like, you're a fucking disaster, if you're kind of, in your real and you're not hiding it, and you're going, this is all I got. - This is what it is. - It's all I've got. - Yeah, that's all I got. - Yeah, yeah. - And then we have a nice glam squad that fixes it. And that lasts what? Two hours before it goes up in a bun. How long before your hair goes up? - Or do you let it stay down? - Away from my kids, I will let it stay down a little bit longer. - With my kids, but it's not down. - It's not down. - Yeah. My first has a habit of telling me, I don't like your hair and a bun. Yeah. And I'm like, thank you so much. I literally wearing a bun. I think that's when they're young or Louis hated my hair up. Mama, you hair down. Really? Down. I'm like, what's wrong with your face? You know, it was like, is it this? He's like, cover it up. Cover it up. Cover the face. They're honest. I know. It's too honest. A little too honest. No, you know, we appreciate it. You want to know the way. Now, if you had to pass America's sweetheart, yeah, to anybody else, do you have someone that you think could turn that one? There's a couple good ones. Like, just good women that are younger than me. Like, Emma Stone, give it to her. Lily Collins, give it to Lily. You know, Joey and Maisie in this film, like they, you know, they have spice now. The great thing about the younger generation is that they can be spicy. Yes. I wasn't allowed to be spicy. No one wanted me to be spicy. Yeah, my clothes doors are different things. But no one wanted you to have. They wanted you to be sweet. We wanted you to be really safe. But they, I think now people are okay with the balance. There's a lot of good women out there that could definitely take that, I pass the baton to happily. With the chaos of four girls and back to school, I need all the help I can get. Good thing the CVS Health app helps me handle my healthcare needs all year round. 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And when I cheered first in 10, no idea what that meant. I just, you know, I just was here to support the team. My high school boyfriend was a football player. I love athletes. I love and admire athletes and stand-up comics because it's a muscle. It's like, you put yourself out there and it's incredible to me. And I'm the person that when I'm watching a football game, I'm that person. Yes. And it doesn't help anyone around me. Nobody, my son hates it when I'm at the games, I'm like, no, you know, I admire the sport. I don't root for just one team. I root for whoever deserves me to be rooting for them on a day. Sure. When everyone's at the house for the game, I'll sort of, I won't pick. I'll pick your side that feels, you know, like it needs me. Okay. You know, if you ever need to pick a team, yes, would you want me to pick one one in particular with one close second? Okay. Okay. I can do that to maybe the Philadelphia Eagles. I think that's a great choice. Close second? Yes. The Chiefs. Okay. Okay. I can do that. Never. I can do that. Never. The Dallas Cowboys. Sorry. You know what? I said what I said. I grew up, I grew up in D.C. Yeah. You did not even mention Dallas Cowboys. That was, that was a, no, no. Blast for this. I can see them. Yes. Yes. She's, she's correct. Yeah, yeah. So I'll correct. I can, I can give you that. As long as I get some swag, like some, like a jacket, I can get you that jacket. I want to be a duchess as well. Done. I want to be what I'll say. This is actually so easy. There's never been an easier lift. We'll get you a jacket. And then you can say, go birds. I walk into the go birds. Go birds. That's like a hand signal. Like, nope, that's it. You just go birds. You need your hand signal. Literally anybody that's wearing eagles stuff, you can say go birds. It's rude if they don't say go birds back. Got okay. It's lovely. I like to be in the know when I'm sporting stuff. Do you frequent Philadelphia by chance? Been there once. Love it. Need to be invited. I only go to where we are invited. Just now let's come watch football. Go birds. Invite go birds. Make me bring the kids. Love it. And then really be nice to me. So they go, wait a minute. Other people feel perfect. We can, we can make this real jazzy. We can like do it on the field. There's no no. There's some very introvert. Don't put me on a field. Just, I mean, no. I like to be in the back. Thank you so much for saying that. Why? Because I will be standing right back there with you. I like to be like, when we go to concerts, I'm in the back. Like, I don't want to embarrass the kids either when I'm doing pulling out my dance moves because they're epic. But they don't think so. So I just sort of stay in the back. See the dial in. That's one place where I'm, I'm going to really enjoy letting my dance moves out. I'm there with you to embarrass my children specifically. In the back. Perfect. Let's do it. I will say just one more nod to football is that there was a little bit of a stretch there in Philadelphia, where we were having a little difficulty running the ball. Running the ball. Running the ball. And a lot of people were enjoying the audio of you on a phone call saying, me run the damn ball. Run the damn ball. I was like, wait, someone got me on the ball. Yeah, run the damn ball. Did you think one of your personal phone calls had been released to Philadelphia? I just feel like I'm just a little nervous. I was like, what? Did you learn anything about football? I did. When I filmed the movie. Okay, perfect. Don't ask me about any of it right now. I can take him. I'm trying to try to remember any of it. Do you know what first and 10 means now? First down at the 10 yard mark? Close? Not in some way? No, not at all. That face. No, you got it. Is that it? Was that right? Yeah. So, okay, let me ask you something. If it's like, it doesn't have to be the 10 yard mark. So, let's say it's like, it's like 12 or 13. Yes. They still call it first and 10. Yes, because you need 10 yards to get the first down. I see. That makes sense. That's a good rule. It's the first down of trying to get 10 yards. Get forward. Okay, got it. Yes. Uh-huh. We're there. You had it. So I saw that. You saw that. Well, like all moms, we've already been talking about our kids. Throughout this conversation. But I'd love to talk some more about motherhood. How old are your kids now? 16 and a half and 13 and a half. So that's exciting and terrifying. Yes. Yes. So might be answering for you. How's it going? I'm in it. You know, my mother always said to me, "Just wait 'til you have daughters." 'Cause I was a difficult child. in that. I didn't do anything, but I looked like I was about to do it all. I was really scared of her, so I didn't really do much. But I was defiant. I was very defiant. I talked back, and you know, my daughter does the things I thought about. She is an action spear. We love that. She is this child, this young soul is one of the bravest people I've ever met, not because she's willing to defy me, but because she really has no fear, athletically, in her voice, in her telling somebody what she thinks. And I go, it's hard as it is on me as a parent. If this is who she's going to go out into the world and be, she's on the right path. I just have to put bumpers on her. She will run something like a country. She's, she's incredible. She's incredible. She scares it, scares it, shit out of me. But yeah, you know, I'm her mom for a reason, and I'm in it, and that's why I have no life outside of my house. And my son is like, he's like a 78 year old wise man inside a 16 year old basketball player's body. He knows everything. He sees everything. He knows things that I don't even know. It's like, I literally find myself in situations and I go, what would Louie do right now? Because his judgment is so spot on. Like, he can look at humanity, and he, you know, in a sea of people, he'll go, that's unsafe, that's, and he knows to like make friends with all, keep your enemies close, but just sort of assess the room. And he's, he's, you're not worried about him. Not, yes, every single day he leaves a house, every single day, but not for the reason because of who he is as a human being. But he's, he's one of the sages people. Like, I look at him and I go, if there's proof in reincarnation, whatever he was before he got here, was an, it was an evolved beautiful soul. Yeah. And he's been that way since they put him in my arms, you know, 10 days old. That's the same kid, same kid. Now, I like to talk about some of the more humbling and we'll call it overly honest things that my kids have said to me. Yes. Some of the ones more recently, uh, my oldest loves to make comments about how squishy my belly is. We call that the Dunlop. Because it's done locked over your belt. Notice the drapey vintage she that I wear. Um, yeah, she, uh, she likes to do that. I told you, she, I wear a bun. I'd say 90% of the time and she likes to remind me how awful it looks. Yeah. I put on address the other day and she said, I like that. Um, never mind. It looks bad. What was she looking at? Wait, was she focusing on any particular unsure? Okay. Um, but I don't know if it's the way I turned me, let's say I returned it. Yeah. Okay. Who am I? You know what? You know what? They're the most honest people with your husband knows better to say, I don't like that. You're damn rating. Yes. He's like, babe, you look amazing. Yes, he does. Yeah. Yeah. And that's not always truthful. I need the honesty. I'm with you, but you don't need it all. You don't need it from your husband. No, not there. No. And also sometimes I would like a hint of a filter. Just a hint. You know, on the kids. Yeah. You're not going to get that. Let me tell you that. It gets worse. Great. Yeah. That's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have anything that stands out that your kids have said to you where you were like, thank you. Yeah. Um, you know, Lila is is, yeah, she's brutal. Um, I was kidding on a zoom and she walks blind. She went, you know, you can put a filter on that. And I went, what? She goes, you know, you make yourself look better. She just types and she slides and she goes, put it right there. It was like literally like someone taken Vaseline and she's on there to put a sheet in front of my face. And I go, okay. And it's still on that same setting. It's like, again, the honesty, I appreciate. She said I needed to date, but only someone where they can get stuff. So I said, what a rapper or best well player. That's the parameters. Like, what is it? Yeah. She's like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I went, you have to kind of appreciate it. Yeah. Cause in that moment, she delivered it with harsh honesty. Yeah. She's taking care of mom. Right? Like, she's a fixer. Even my oldest being like that. No, it doesn't. Yeah. She harsh honesty. But how bad would it have been if I had got the dress and worn it out? And how bad if I'd gone on that zoom? I wouldn't have gone the job. Right? Yeah. It's a horror film. No, I think we should, I mean, I just lean into who they are. I'm like, I meet them exactly where they are. And I go, I'm getting something amazing, even though I'm crying on the inside. I'm getting something amazing. Now, I read that you chose the timing you did to make practical magic to because of your kids' schedule and not wanting to lose time with them. Have you navigated this balance since you first became a mom? I have. I have. It's, you know, to me being a mom, that's everything. I mean, my job is great. I didn't expect to be doing it this long because, you know, when I started, nobody did the job this long. My kids are my everything. So if it doesn't work for them in my time with them, then I'm not doing it. And I'm lucky. I'm lucky that I'm one of the moms that gets to be with our kids all the time. I have no desire to leave my kids producing and having my company. I get to make sure everyone else gets to do that if that's what works for them. And women can kind of make it work. We can. We just do it. People go, how do you keep common carry on? You go, I don't know. I just have to have no choice. Yes. Yeah. Now, was it a little more challenging when they were little? Or is it because, maybe it's just my perception work currently in, we have six, five, three, and one. So it feels very much like you're there every second of the day. Yeah. Now that yours are older, I'm sure that there's a little bit more of a leeway. It's a different need. There's a leeway in that you're not thinking about their physical safety in the same way. It's like, because when Lou was a year and a half, two years, is when I went off and made gravity and I, you know, lit with him in London, but he was a little toddler. So I was like, he was with me on sat. He was, you know, everyone's attention was on Lou. So I knew he was covered there. I didn't have to think about what camps does he want to be and what friends does he want to be with when they get older and they become teenagers. If you take them away from their friends, which I did last summer in London, that's a hard thing. Lose a basketball player had to find the basketball coach had to find the tribe that would feel good to him. You know, you can't just throw him in with kids anymore and go, make friends. My daughter is a race car driver. Literally. And so she decided she was going to go to Cardin Camp with 16, 17-year-olds and just learn those fundamentals of that and she wasn't having. You know, it's, when you have to figure it out because sometimes the camps don't work out. You get the call of come get me right now. And then you're like, what do I do? I'd plan this around a shoot, you know. And not everything worked out great that summer, but it's a different kind of worry. But when they get older, you don't have a child that's just learning how to walk or you're in a place with a sharp corners where every corner's not padded. You know, it's not not everyone thinks about kids when you go travel for you. You have to bring that stuff. Yeah, you do. Yeah. And speaking of motherhood, I hear that we have something else in common. We can't resist helping animals. Oh my God. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. We recently had a dog and a kitten on the show that were adoptable with one eyeball. Yep. I've had one of those too. Mm-hmm. It was lovely. They couldn't stay in our house. We're not allowed to have cats yet. Mm-hmm. Well, you're not allowed to, you're your family HOA or the family, you know, my husband. That's what I meant. The family HOA. Yeah. Yeah. Is it allergic? Yes. But he's also allergic to dogs and we have two of those. So I'm saying I was not a cat person until two adopted us. And I was like, oh, we're not keeping these cats. And now they they have been shipped fixed. The entire garage is their play pending and come into one room with the house. You know, they're they're they're they're awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for saying that. They're also asked right. They treat you. Oh no, Dix. They're like total Dix. Yeah. I love that. It's great. I'm so needy for their attention. When they give it, I'm like, it's like my toddler special. I know. It's literally my children. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, get away from me. And now is not the time. And I'm like, just love me. I know just love on me. And when they stop holding your hand. Mm-hmm. Like, I reached over like the rule now is with Lou. I said, you got to hold my hand when no one else is around. And we're just walking. You got to hold it. And I said, I also have to make sure you know how to hold a hand. You're not like limp, you know? Yeah. It's like it like they don't really want to hold it anymore. Mm-hmm. I can't. Every so often, my three-year-old hit me with that not right now. And I'm like, but we're walking together. Walking me. But they want independence, especially with me. That's all she's, she's busy. She's living. She's with the pearls, right? Yeah. All right. That's Queen Elizabeth. That's not Betty White. Betty loved to hold hands. No, she's every so often recently. She'll literally be like, not right now. And I'm like, maybe now. I love this kid. She's good. She's a good child. And animal that I really have to go after and beg for attention from. Yeah. I need to meet her. Now, I do have a question for you about animals. Mm-hmm. You who had a two-legged dog named Ruby. - Ruby, Ruby tell her Versace. 'Cause she walked like she was on the runway. - And she did. - And she did. - And that was about a runway. - Poppy was a three-legged, my right or die. They were together, they were a pair. And what types of dogs were they? Ruby was an Applehead Chihuahua, which oddly gets inbred a lot, and they are born with the sort of selidomide-like flippers in the front and they're thrown away. She was found in a trash can. So she was a part of a litter that someone had chucked away. Someone found her. - And I'm assuming she got a wheelchair. - No, this is before the range of the way. - She walked, her tail had this, it was her kickstand. So she'd sit down, she's like, "Bee, the men told you to sit." - The men told me. - The men told me, "We're ridiculous." She could go up the stairs, but then we would, if we couldn't find Ruby, we would just wait and we'd go Ruby and we'd just have to call her. We knew she was stuck on a stair somewhere 'cause she couldn't go down. So she'd do a little peep when we'd go find Ruby's. She was unbelievable. She had to poop while she walked. I mean, you think you're having a bad day. You try pooping. - You try calling a Ruby. - You try pooping and walking. - We actually have a clip of Ruby. - Ruby, tell her Versace. - I purposely didn't watch us ahead. It's a hi, look at her. Look at her. She's peeing here, look at her peeing. - Are you kidding? - But watch if she finds her runway. Hold on a minute, she finds her runway. Hold on, wait. Wait, she's gotta finish. She's the guy she's peeing. - Are you just backs it up? - She's peeing. - Look at the tail. There's like a little muscle in there and it's like a kickstand. And then she backs it up and hits her runway. And Ruby, tell her, look at her. (laughs) Look at that runway walk. - Oh. - She's perfect. We did find a little car, she didn't like it. She didn't like it. Because she's terrible because she was, she can do it. - She got you legs. - Walk. - That's incredible. - Her and the three-legged, I mean, people were just like, it's like, I don't know, don't ask. - The last thing I have for you is I like to ask for advice from our guests. Specifically moms, I love to ask. Do you have a go-to piece of mom advice for any moms out there? Or the best piece of advice that you've ever received? - I think, you know what, moms know so much before anybody even has to tell them something. Every kid is different, every single kid. I listen to everyone, I ask advice. I look at how my friends do it, you know, but no one's kids are gonna be like your kids. You know, I don't think enough women trust their intuition and what they internally know about their children and what's right for their kids. I don't think they trusted enough. They get the kids in a school system. They go, oh, well, I guess this is where they're supposed to be and you go, my child doesn't feel right here. Trust it. Go find another school. Like I want my kids to be, I've made mistakes. And I'm the first out of the gate. Yeah, I thought I was doing the right thing, but you know what, it's like if they're happy, if they can self-soothe, if they're good people. You know, I said, trust what you got here. I think there's something so valuable on what we have as women that we don't give enough credit to. And I think we need to start being better to ourselves in that department and really allowing that to make the rules because we know shit. We do inherently by being a woman and a mom. That female intuition, that mother's intuition is the perfect segue into making sure that you check out practical magic too because what more about female intuition and your feelings than checking that out? We have it being part of the covenant. Come on, just stop denying it. Thank you so much. Make sure you get your tickets to see practical magic too on Thursday, September 10th. I can't wait. I'm so excited. Thank you so much for coming. I can't wait to see who's algorithm we pop into. Right? It's not going to be a good one. So I can be a healthy one. Thank you so much. This was so much fun. I love this. And that's it for this episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Sandy on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. Follow us on social media @NGL with Kylie for clips throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not gonna lie, it's a way of original brought to you by Apple Pay. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in. (upbeat music)