Kylie's Perfect Mother's Day & Rory McIlroy on Masters Win, Shrink The Game & Golf Dad Tips | Ep 190

I went to girl in the goat. The restaurant Travis took you to and did not eat out at it. It is a fantastic restaurant nice You get some goat nuts. Yeah, Travis you're wrong. That place rules So good didn't say I hated it. I just did try it. I wasn't in for goat I had peanut butter and jelly pancakes, which is the fattest thing I've done in months and it was so god That's the most non-goat thing air. It was a brunch. There's no Greek brunch options. Oh, Chilaquilas was really good though That's not Greek either. But do you think if we went back that you would be more experiment? I feel like and we won't use this in the episode But I feel like Taylor has definitely I got to use it. We can fucking use it. It's nothing wrong with that. I feel like you grown up He's more adventurous of food. Yeah One of the men when I'm around her and eat foods I haven't tried before She does the little airplane noises. I like it Boom, that's a clip Welcome back to new heights ladies and gentlemen boys and girls a wondrous show brought to you by Adobe Acrobat We are your host. I'm Travis Guises my brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio Shout out to the heights To the Cincinnati Bearcats Subscribe on YouTube wherever we get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week Yeah, man, we're got a good show coming up and Jason's gonna tell you just how good of a show it is That's right. How good of a show isn't well 92%. We got a great show lined up for you We're gonna be taking our first look at some Eagles and cheese rookies that we've got all of a sudden out there in the social media landscape Princess Kayana is here to answer some Mother's Day high-top line questions and Roy McAroy is here That's right. The back of it masters champion is in the house It's gonna be a doozy, but let's get into something first as you all know the first thing We always get into what's up a little bit of that new news Coming in news is brought to you by Mentos I'll see you're gonna take it still available for our live show in Los Angeles. The show is Monday June 15 Nice link in the description Check it out. We are excited about this live show. It's gonna be a lot of fun Mainly highlighting the World Cup, but it's a chance to just be in front of the fans and doing a live show always has that energy Still trying to figure some of that stuff out as you're gonna be a goal on stay probably Is there gonna be some shenanigans most definitely? Should you be there if you have time available and can afford it? Yes, it's gonna be a blast You're gonna want to be there if you are a 92% here If you're not a 90% or you probably still going to want to be there because we read some very specific everything our book No, don't question to still available for free order on Chelsea Clubhouse dot com How about it, man? The book comes out June 2nd June's a big month. I bet this is gonna be a book that does really well on the shitter like when you need To just like past the time put the phone down. We don't need more screen time Because if you're anything like me you just sit on that phone then all of a sudden your shit turns into like a 30 minute shit And then and then cut and you know, I mean, it's just that's not good for your blood flow, Jason your your feet start like It's not good for blood flow, man. I heard a lot of bad things happen to people that do that for over 30 minutes Although it hasn't caught up to dad because dad used to read those Tom Cleansie books for hours It's a great spot for getting some reading done and this is the type of book that would do well I mean, it's not a lot of continuity with it. It's it's like a short stories, you know I mean, it's it's a great book for the shitter. All right. Do we want to announce beer bowl 20 26? Yes We do want to announce beer bowl control oh nice What are we doing with this right now using your phone while you poop greatly raises hemorrhid risk or listen You want to know what greatly raises your hemorrhid risk? squatting squatting greatly much more than any amount of screen time on the toilet does When you hold your breath with twice your body weight on your back. I'll say you go. That's a good hemorrhid risk I almost got a hemorrhid watching you do that Exerting gives hemorrhids listen high achievers have hemorrhids. I don't know what's the time You want to be a nothing in life? Care if you get hemorrhids or not if you're exerting so hard that part of your intestine comes out your butthole You're fucking trying I don't even know if that's what a hemorrhid is. I'm that's what I imagine it is it's in that whole park Oh, we also want to announce that beer bowl 20 26 is actually happening. That's right We've been debating it whether to bring it back or not and to be honest. It's just too fun to not do we have to do it It's a blast. You're gonna want to enjoy it It is always in that last weekend in June last week in June before July 4th We always have our OD event down the shore that Wednesday Beer bowl is always going to be that Thursday or Friday. We're experimenting with either way We are doing it again for $50,000 if you want to be in the 2026 beer bowl You need to submit a video as to why you should be in it and what your team name and theme is going to be Those are the two things you must have also you need to be demonstrating your beer drinking abilities Those are the three criteria of every video that you submit. This year is going to be all new teams with an opportunity to compete for $50,000 $50,000 The thing we're learning the most is Sometimes when you start with elimination events There's people that work up to just get there and they only get to do one event and then their times up This year we're going to do multiple events in the first round a point total Which will get you into the elimination round. So we're going to try and make it so that everybody who comes gets a participate Which also means more action for the fans that are there to witness It's going to be way more of a hassle for the production team good luck branding and just shake and everybody else But that's your problem, but it's going to be awesome. You're going to want to be there It's going to be fun as it is every year. Hopefully nobody gets hurt like I did last year tearing my hamstring Cooper Jean will not be getting a hammer this year. Wait won't be getting hammered or won't be Given a hammer. Well one of the Events has been hammer shlogging every year, but hammer shlogging it terms out is a risk when you give drunken people hammers Yeah, in the middle of a competitive event Yep, so we're avoiding the hammers hammers are done. Nice. We're also I think we're going to have some fun Shenanigans that garage beers participating with that will make the event Inclusive meaning if even if you're not in beer bowl you can be a part of raising some money for an awesome foundation I'm giving back. We also got first looking at some rookies achieves and he goes mini camps trap. Did you see any of these clips? Yeah, man. I was sitting at the house Checking the film man. I saw a bunch of stuff. Well, let's show some I definitely saw some Some uh some practice footage of some fucking madness and rookie camp. Oh my gosh. Look at him attack that bag. I can't fucking wait Nice nice. So it doesn't love slow motion football, man So that was uh armace and Thomas second round draft. Peggy's uh edge rusher. So outside backer like kind of like that like two four I mean, I'm just gonna lie. I'm not I'm just gonna put out there. I hate the number 34 I don't think he was an outside backer. Well, yeah, good for him. It probably has some settlement of value But for me as an unbiased Media member and someone who knows nothing about this young man. I don't like 34 like says when do you like numbers? I hate numbers. Maybe I do like this guy Hahaha I hate numbers, but I can tell that he chose it which makes me hate it even more Like you like you're like equipment guy just give me a number kind of guy I'm either equipment guy give me your number. I'm gonna wear this number in honor of like it Like because I want to be that number of that position 34 is like what is a 34 like it's a three four outside linebacker What's a 34 number Individual I don't know how to ask armace and what is uh It's a running back of sorts historically. Yeah, maybe a safety. Oh safety. Yeah, like who could wear 20 to 40s. I feel like it was like running backs and safeties or 20 to 40s back in the day You ever seen this man told the football our mason Thomas. Yeah, you ever seen him run with the football He's running back too. He's got a nasty stiff arm. Oh, who's a dual way player. I think last year he he messes hammy up Uh, taking a fumble to the house. Oh And absolutely dragged a guy the entire way makes sense that he tore his hamstring It was impressive. Can you gauge anything from watching bag drills right there? What do you see in with this absolutely nothing? No, that's just fun content for the chiefs to post I there's something about like Dealing drills in particular. I'm like I don't fucking think that's working with a shit or they're over there working techniques But at the end of the day, you're you're gonna move this human being out of your way Often's aligned drills definitely make a difference in the technique matters a lot. Yeah, but then I remember Stefan was news. He said to me one time. He's like, do you want to deal? I'm in there. So terrifying doing their drills They're like swatting your hands and like getting like all that And I'm like, I just feel like you'd always look stupid. I don't that never feels like It never feels like that when I'm actually pass blocking the guy or they're playing against them All right, let's look at Peter Woods' stuff and judge him be Pete. Let's see it Peter Woods. No, no, I like that I'm not gonna lie. I like the way this look the little burst look. Oh my god I like. You get you gotta watch the left arm. You gotta watch that left arm though that left arm gets a little hot right here The left arm gets that's head and neck area Peter, we got to stay away from the head and neck area. We gotta go for the ball. Yeah, well, he's trying to go for the ball. I know. We got to work there. We got to work to take me better. I mean, I liked the little burst after this one. He goes, I like it. I like it too. 99, 99, little Wayne Gritzki at him, Wayne Gritzki, Peter was, he's telegraphing it a little bit, but pretty all around fan of that kind of movement. Feet look good to be that big too, man. I like it. Nice and quick. All right. All right. Emmett Johnson. I think it was a fifth round running back. One of the best, I think it was the best running back in the, the big tent this year. Are you saying statistically or actually? Yeah, we saw him. He went to Nebraska. All right. Let's see. I, I just like when you're watching these drills with the bags, if their head can stay put while they're moving their legs fast, like the more that it's kind like a golf swing, the more that upper body can remain independent of the lower body when you're moving through stuff like this to me, that's a plus. That, that shows independent appendage usage. So you don't want arms, so you don't want arm drive? I like the arm drives in sick. I'm more talking about the head and shoulders. I feel like if you are like very like this, that's not a good sign. If you are kind of stationary up top, all the legs are kind of moving all over the place. I like that. I think if you're going through that shift fluently and you're getting through it quickly, however, you got to do it. That's a great point. Nice L trigger right there in Madden. Nice jump cut. It doesn't look like he's fighting it. It doesn't look like he's aggressively fighting the turf. Who's the best running back you've ever seen that look like they're aggressively fighting the turf Travis? I got one name in mind. I was not going to say that. Well, he definitely does do that. I was thinking of somebody who has had slightly more production in the NFL. Adrian Peterson. That's exactly who I was thinking. He's, there are not many guys that look like they run that hard translate into really good running backs in the NFL. I usually prefer smoothness to like fighting the turf. Adrian Peterson, Jesus. It's thunder and lightning for sure. That grass was pissed off after Adrian Peterson ran on it. It wasn't like no gliden across it. He was fucking getting them cleats in the turf. Hopefully we'll see some more out of Emma Johnson in the future. Also, Pat Maholmes is a freak Adam Schaefter. Patrick Maholmes is on track to participate in Kansas City's first OTAs. All right, where'd he go? Where'd he go? Did he go to Germany? Did he go to Panama? No, he's just a hard work in American man that was in Kansas City, fucking knocking out rehab and getting his fucking legs straight back. It's like my cousin video. Am I to believe that this man's PCL grows faster in his leg than in my leg? I think that's all dependent upon how you handle rehab. You're probably, I think genetics also are more differential than instant crits. Yeah. That Eagles fans hyped for McKay Lemons shenangle. What's this? I have not seen this Brandon. It's good shenangle right there. parallel with it. It is good shenan. I mean, I do like the vertical shenangle, which is what this is kind of showing. Tell me if I'm off on this track. I like when you see more of the lateral ability to keep your foot in the ground in that shenangle. Yeah, that's ankle flexion. That's ankle flexion. Well, this is a form of ankle flexion too. It's just more dorsi flexion. Whereas I like in terms of changing direction, which to me makes a bigger deal in the football field is how well you can like Travis is a great job of this. I've always said he has gum be knees. But a lot of it comes down to how well can he internally rotate his shins while his foot remains on the ground. Yeah. And that's where you see a lot of guys slip is when they get too extreme and then their foot comes off the ground and they start slipping off the inside of those clay on edges. Yeah. But this is, I mean, anytime you are you have good shenangles like this and good like a dorsi flexion. That's a good sign that you're going to be able to change direction very well. I mean, listen, yeah, that was one of the things you saw instantly on all the film that you could see on lemon and in college. It's his him as an athlete. I mean, one of the best in the draft. The fact that he can get in and out of cuts. He's very strong ass runner and his separation on the top of routes is just so clean and pure and precise. So this is, yeah, this isn't like blowing my mind, but I do appreciate, you know, how good an athlete he is. No doubt. That's not blowing my mind because I would expect to see what I saw a film, you know what I mean? Yeah, it makes sense. Last thing, Jake and Jason might not be friends in a week because we've got nicks versus the sixers in the NBA playoffs. I'll be watching the calves versus the Detroit pistons. Why not just watch both Travis because it's some of fan of the cast. But you can watch it. So do you just watch other teams because you're like basketball? Yeah, you're right. I can 100%. I'll probably watch the games that are at Madison Square Garden because it's the garden. Yeah, it's fun. Sure. Absolutely epic. And I can't wait to see all the social clips of the nicks fans because it's every single year. I've been still around here too. Oh my gosh, hilarious. I'm just talking about like the not even in the stadium, just like people on all the streets. I can't do it. It's hilarious, man. When the nicks are fucking firing like they are right now, man. God, I gotta get to the game of the garden, man. The sixers. I don't think many people thought they'd make it out of the Celtics leading up into that series. Obviously they play in pretty damn well. Paul George is playing really well and beat his back. He's a force. Axis unstoppable. Nicks, I think they beat a team by like 70 points or something. The nicks, nicks were all the end of that series. And I've actually Jalen Brunson being from the Villanova era area. I know him very well. So like, you know, listen, I'm rooting for the sixers, but I also like watching Brunson play. So, but yeah, at the same time, fuck you, Jake. All right. Tastes different. New news brought to you by mentors. All right, let's move on to a little Mother's Day action. How about it? Thanks to our presenting sponsor, Adobe Acrobat. That's right. Acrobat's new capabilities and PDF spaces are the best way to bring on new team members, no matter what business you're in interns. Can you show us how it's done please? Yeah, that's me. Still an interned. All right. When onboarding new team members, PDF spaces can act as an onboarding buddy by consolidating up to a hundred files into a shareable interactive AI powered workspace. When you share it, you can even add a custom over you to help guide the new employee through tons of content, bring them up to speed and let them know where to focus. 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And these are the memories you look, and also saved the day by telling them that I wasn't in the backseat. - Yeah, but I waited until we were on the freeway to tell. - Yeah, you waited a bit. You wanted to see Dad run on the shoulder of the interstate back to the rest stop, which I get. But yeah, these are the fun things you can expect to experience when you are on a family vacation and it's only gonna be made easier with Expedia. - Here's the thing about planning a family trip. It gets complicated fast. Everyone's got different schedules these days, different ideas, but Expedia's got you covered. - It sure does, but when you bundle, you can save up to 30%. Everything you need in one hand. - That's right. Expedia, the one place you go to go places. - Members only savings vary. See site for details. - Kyle, are you ready? - I mean, this won't be the first podcast. I, we start and I'm still doing my mascara. Go ahead. Do I get an introduction here, Jason? - I don't think, I don't know. Travis is the one handling this. It looks like. - Okay, oh no. Don't put that brush on, Travis. - I'm just doing what Brandon puts in the rundown. I am Ron Burgundy. (laughing) - 92%ers! It's almost Mother's Day. So we have a special edition of High Tatline. Brought to you by Expedia, shout out to Expedia and here to help us answer your motherly questions, is the host of the Webby Award-winning podcast. - Oh! - I can't take this podcast and all the land. Not gonna lie, Kylie Kelsey, come on in. What about you? - Yes! - One of America's favorite mothers. - Happy Mother's Day. - I gotcha. - Happy early Mother's Day. - Thank you. - You guys are gonna do something special? Jason? - No. - Jason? - Yeah, we always do something special on Mother's Day. (laughing) - Okay. (laughing) - You said you're so far, but I didn't really find it. - You're gonna start blazing. (laughing) - Well, that leads us to our first question. What would be a perfect Mother's Day for you, Kylie? - Dream Mother's Day, Kylie. - I don't know. Last Mother's Day was great. We got some brunch, and I love brunch. - Ooh. - What else, just literally, literally. (laughing) - Brunch is brunch, B, R, U, F. (laughing) - Actually, I'm not here, just make me disappear. - Brunch. - Brunch. - I don't know. - Backrobes? - From you? - I got bad hands, you know that. (laughing) - That's why I wanted clarity on the situation. - I scratched Ellie's back last night, and she was like, "Dad, why does it hurt?" - Right of your fingernails hurt, but mom's fingernails feel good. (laughing) - Jesus, Jesus. - To be fair, his fingers don't bend anymore. - Yeah, I know. - I literally, recently called his hands man-mits. (laughing) - He's just walking around like this everywhere he goes. - You should see him try to do the girl's hair. His fingers don't bend. He goes like this to top, like this, to the top of her head. Like he's doing his palms. - Isn't that what you're supposed to do? - Sure. - All right, so what else do we got? We got brunch. What about breakfast and bed? I heard some women like that. - No. - No. - I don't want food and bed. - Okay, no breakfast and bed. - I want silence. - Silence. - I want silence. - That's gonna be a tough one. - Yep. - I want 20 minutes of silence. - 20, we can do 20 minutes, we just go outside. We can do that. - Who's we? You're noisy. You say-- - I know we, no we all go, we all go outside. - No, no, I go outside and use it inside. - So a perfect day, mother's day is Kylie outside. Okay. - Yes, thank you. - Kylie outside. - Kylie outside. - All right. - A little bit of quiet. - So a brunch picnic? - No. - No. (laughing) - I want food that I don't have to clean up after. - Got it, okay. - So brunch at a restaurant and then I want 20 minutes outside. - So you just want to go to park? - What? - Oh, that's a lot. (laughing) - One of the two, all right, perfect. - Yeah. - Same as usual, got it. - Yeah, I'm-- - Okay, I'm-- - I am the worst person to ask girl questions too because I am a creature of habit. I want to go to the same places. I want to get the same food. I'm not the person to ask. See, like I would be fine if you just did, what did you used to do? Candles and earrings? - No, that wasn't from Mother's Day. That was a Christmas thing. - Oh, perfect. Okay. - You bet you're against Candles now though. - Well, just because he is. - I am. - I burn the money leaves. - All right, well, we have some 92% of voice males that they have asked us about Mother's Day and we figured we'd bring you in as our resident expert mother. - That sounds strong. - Do you want to pick some of these? - I'm picking one. - We're going to pick a few. - Oh, can you just pick them? - Okay, let's do wish girls understood about their moms. - Oh, no. - Hi, my name is Sarah. I'm from Carolina. I'm not a mom. But I am a teenager. - Seems pertinent from Mother's Day. - And suddenly mom's respected. - It's less husband attacking and more just. - Well, there's something that you wish girls understood about their moms that we probably don't realize. Love y'all. - Love you too. - Love you. All right. You remember what it was like to be a teenager? - Yes, I do. - Trash. - And I remember what you, you have told me that most daughters in the teenage years struggle with moms. - Yes. So I can only speak to my experience with my mother because I do realize that I locked out. My mom is low leases top tier. - That's the least. - Happy Mother's Day, Lisa. - My concern is that, so this applies to great moms. I know that that's not everyone's situation. And I'm sorry that some moms fall short. I know that that's some people's experience, but what I will tell you from my own experience is that I felt strongly that when I turned, let's call it 15, that my mom was plotting against me. I swore it up and down. I thought, first, sure, that woman was trying to take me down. - It's a good theory. - When I turned 22, maybe 21, let's say 21, okay? Let's call 21. I had a moment where I was like, "Oh, she's been on my team the whole time." - Yeah, probably number one fan, if we're being honest. - Let's be seriously about that. - So what caused you to think that she was trying to ruin your life? - That she was trying to tell me what to do. And as a teenage girl, I thought, I know better than you, which is ridiculous. - Like what time to be home, like the curfews? - No, like that. - No, I didn't even go out. - So what are we talking about today? - There was a moment in time where I was potentially gonna switch schools and she was advocating for that 'cause I wasn't happy with classmates and that sort of thing. And I was less classmates and more class. I was not excelling academically. - Gotcha. - Yeah, but that doesn't mean school's bad. That's what I'm saying. The school, great. When I leave the school, you want me to do homework? That's weird. - Yeah, you do the work at the school. - You just have me for seven hours. And if you didn't get out of me, then I can't help you now. That's how I felt about it. - Like my mom never brought work home. She did all of her work and work. - Thank you. - So Lisa was advocating for you to leave schools or advocating for you to just go to your home? - We were exploring other options for me to potentially go to a different school that could help me academically. - Is this like one of the (beep) - Jason Daniel. (laughing) - I don't know where to go from here. - I think that's great advice. Boms are always on the side. - We can go to the next voicemail. - Let's go to the next voicemail. Show me the list. I'm done with him picking. - I thought it was a fun one. - I thought it was a good one. And that's good advice for all teenage girls out there. They might not be rooting against you. Let's see. - First Mother's Day. - Brandon likes that one. - I don't think this one's gonna be good, but let's go. - Me neither. - Let's go. - Yeah, I have a new Father Mother's Day question here. - Is this why she is currently pregnant? But the baby isn't here yet. Do I still have to get her a Mother's Day gift? - No, don't tell her it's like that. - This is again where like girl questions, I'm Nevada. I would say no, the baby's not here yet. What I do think is is that if you wanted to do a little something, maybe like flowers or something small and be like, I can't wait until next year when we can celebrate your first official Mother's Day. That's a great segue, let's say. But I don't think that I don't. - I don't think some diapers. - Those tits are still intact. You got a lot of milestones to overcome. - What did you just say? Did he just say your tits are still intact? - That's my wife. >> I'm just saying that I'm just telling. >> That's my one. >> You're so intact. Tell Emily, I'm so sorry. >> I will. Thanks, Guy. I appreciate you being on that side of the debate. That is not what I thought was going to happen. >> I know. That's why I'm saying I'm bad at girl questions. God, I can't believe you just reference Jake's, I can't believe that you said that. >> Just go with your heart. >> I wasn't saying it about Emily. I was just saying it was, like, mostly about all times. >> Well, I mean. >> Your tits are still intact. To be fair, I really resonate with that sentiment. My tits are no longer intact. >> That's where I thought the burn was. >> I thought the burn was more of a tag on you. >> What? >> I agree with those. >> All right, all right. >> Let's do another voicemail. >> Let's do another good one. >> I want a specific Kells household rules. >> If you get into a specific Kellsie House rule, the problem is you're about to get believed, Jason's going to get believed. >> Here we go. >> My no-down question is for Kylie, who I understand is going to be on the Mother's Day podcast. My question is this, Kylie, what's a very specific Kellsie household rule that exists purely because of something Jason or Travis did once that can never be allowed to happen again? >> Why are you talking that way? >> I don't even know what she asked. The question was, what is a Kellsie House rule that is in place because of something that the two of you have done? >> We didn't really have them in house rules, do we, Jason? >> Yeah, I think that's why they assume that there are rules related to the stories. >> She's asking Kylie. I think she was asking more. Have you implemented rules because of stories you've heard? That's what I thought the question was. >> Yeah, no need. >> So you guys didn't understand any of the, all right, cool. >> All right. >> The house. >> Let's see, let's see. I don't know. There are things that I would never allow to happen because of stories I've told that I've been told. >> Oh, interesting. >> Okay, for instance, no one's playing in the car. >> I don't know when Travis drove it through the garage. >> Or when someone took a dump in the trunk. >> That was Travis. >> Those are both Travis. >> Travis, you know what? >> Travis went, Travis went potty in the bathroom. >> I mean, as I've seen with Wyatt, it is now clear to me that watching Wyatt just tell her younger sisters what to do and egg them on is very accurate as to that she's your child, that she is your child, that's what that is. >> All right. What other ones? What other rules? >> I have taken into consideration how our knives are stored. >> Because we used to throw knives in the air. >> Who's we? Who is we? >> The only known story is of me, but I'm sure Travis was doing it. >> I got in on some of that fun, for sure. >> Did you? >> What? >> What? >> I'm locking them in a safe. >> Who doesn't want to throw knives in the air? >> Sounds like a blast. >> You ever seen ninja turtles? >> In our preschool endeavors, I have made it a point to make sure that the teachers know that I'm siding with them. >> Yes. >> I'm trying to hedge our bets to not get kicked out. >> Nice. >> Are parents side of the teachers? >> No, they didn't. >> Your dad literally said when it came to the sporking that they should have been watching you better. >> Well, I mean, they should have. I mean, he was just being honest. He was just true to that. >> They were like kids playing with silverware all without that. >> Jason, it was a sport. >> I remember mom literally, like, vouching that we were right the majority of the time we were in trouble. >> When the stories of Jason fighting are always that he didn't start it, he was finishing it, or he was standing up for somebody else. That's the other big. >> One of those times I was. >> One of the 72 times I got in a fight. >> There was a girl that was being picked on, or I thought that and turned it out that they were playing together. But I thought she was being picked on, and I thought I was protecting her. >> I was told to do exactly. >> Jason, is there a rule that you feel strongly about in our house that, oh, I can hear our kids. >> What's on? >> Is there a rule, like, a house rule that you feel strongly about in our house currently? >> I don't even know. Do we have rules? >> I mean, we have a couple. >> The rule that I would like to change is that the public is going to be in the bed right now. I don't know, that's a rule. I just want that thing out of the bed. It is quite cuddly at times, and it's very nice, but my allergies are affected. >> I'm literally said today that you needed to take a certain time. >> Yeah, it's getting bad. What else? I don't know that there's-- >> I will say that a rule that I've brought from my house growing up. >> My rule that you guys do not follow is McDevitts that I get sometimes a little upset is when the girls aren't eating their food. My head Kelsey comes out and they're going to fucking eat their food. >> I'm not-- >> No, they're not. >> No, ifans are buds. >> They're not. >> If they want to leave the table, they will. >> No, they're not going to-- Travis, as the resident picky eater, do you agree with that method? >> Yes. >> 100%. >> That's right. >> And I had to eat the shit I didn't want to eat. >> No, I get it. I'm with it, though. >> We have implemented a rule. >> It will be thankful. >> Yes, it's so natural. >> There are so many children. >> No, it's just the innocent. >> Sorry. >> He hasn't hit that one. >> He's hit it. >> That one doesn't really work anymore. It's a thriving economy. >> No, we need to stay there, starting children in America. >> We have implemented a rule that Jason doesn't like, which is you have to taste it. But if you don't like it, you don't have to eat it. >> No, because then they can just-- >> You don't like that, bro. >> Because there's the stubborn part of Jason's side of the kid that's going to be like, "I don't like it already." As soon as I touch his my fucking palette, I'm going to spit it out and be like, "I hate it." And then they-- >> They don't have to stop. >> So they won before they even-- >> You got to understand, guys. These kids are half Kelsey. They're half Kelsey's. >> They're half Kelsey's. >> Let him win. >> If you get them any room for, like, "Hey, I got-- I can have some wiggle room here to do what I want." And they're not asking to listen with me at her mouth. They're going to take it. You got to lay down the lull. Look at what-- why it is getting a little bit-- she's getting a little aggressive in some of the things she does. >> I mean, but Benny bit her yesterday, so-- >> That's right. She's half Kelsey. She knows. >> Yeah, the worst part is is Benny bit why it because why it took something from Benny. And then when why it goes, "You don't even care that she bit me." I said, "Obviously, I care. I sent her to time out." And Ellie goes, "That's because that was karma." And I was like, "Oof, I've said that too many times." >> She's figured it out. That's too good. >> Yeah, I was like, "Okay." >> Let's do another voicemail. What else do we want to get into? >> We can't do to pet mom's count because-- >> Jason. >> We can do it. >> Jason's going to disagree because dog's not even in the bed. >> Disagreements are good. >> Hey guys, this is Andrea from KC. And I wanted to know your opinion on Mother's Day when it comes to someone having pets and animals because I have, for example, three pet pigs, bus, Georgian, Frankie. And if I say happy Mother's Day to me and my four children, then I get told to sit back down because I don't have skin children. Therefore, I don't count. So, what are your opinions on that and do pet parents count on Mother's Day, Father's Day times? >> Okay, first of all, can I come over? >> She said three pet pigs. >> Three pet pigs. >> I'm so in on that. >> Stop talking the question. We got to hear that. >> I was about to say, I love bacon too. >> I think you're-- >> God. >> How you? >> I think pet parents count. >> Do you think pet parents count on you being honest or you're just being nice to be honest? >> I'm being honest because. >> Some people can't have a kid's. >> It's just not in everyone's plans to have human children. And so, you are solely responsible for that being. Like, if you are a pet parent, you are still solely responsible for that being. Now, here's where I think people are going to get a little offended. >> Nipples are still intact. >> Fully taking into account that being a pet parent is not as difficult as being a human parent. It is not. >> Yeah, I'm just honest. >> I'm just, obviously. >> But, you're still solely responsible for the well-being of a being. >> Well, here's the thing. This is the problem. Who's celebrating the mother? The people who celebrate Mother's Day are the people who are either like the husband or children of the mob. Like, that's who's celebrating. So, like, yeah, for pigs want to celebrate Mother's Day, go for it. I don't know what that looks like. >> No, no, no, no, she might have a smile. >> I'm not going and celebrating Mother's Day for other. I'm celebrating, I mean, it is for all moms. But it's more like you get celebrated by the people that you mother to. >> Yeah, you mother to pets. >> So, let them celebrate her. >> Okay. Okay, so whoever would like to celebrate you if you are a pet mom, whoever would like to celebrate you green light Yeah, we're just not sure who's who it is. We don't even float your boat finds the lost remote. Yes That takes us back to Jets Jake because I'm pretty sure they have a pet Jake has a dog we do if two dogs. Yeah So you're gonna have to you're gonna have to celebrate So this year, I have to celebrate not the last five that we've had dogs. Do we not just me play with you? We just make the statement that no, you don't get to celebrate Mother's Day if you are a pet mom I think that if you want to celebrate Mother's Day as a pet mom go the fuck right on and do it Do you think you can it's a free country you can do whatever you want, but I'm not gonna partake in your imagination land You don't have to know what to say Yes, that's you want to be she's asking she's asking if there's a permission of like What's her name happy Mother's Day to the mom Andrea believe. Thank you. Happy Mother's Day to Andrea I think it's really cool that you have three pigs I don't I don't Your mother to the pigs. I think I don't think you give yourself a Mother's Day though That's the only thing if somebody wants to give you Mother's Day I think that makes more sense. I'm not gonna say but again do it to it Cuz to be honest, I don't I mean are you gonna put up your own banner? What's happening for I mean people Just celebrate so celebrate fuck it. Sure. Fuck it. Go to brunch. Go to brunch with the pigs Give yourself 20 minutes outside alone Nice all right. Well Thank you to Kai happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there either pet or human moms Kind of you before you get out of you. Do you want to plug anything for not gonna lie? Yeah, no Cool. Don't watch again. Hi to my mother's day. What's you what? Expedia Thank you trip on a sleep number Jason you've been trying out a ton of new activities lately. How has it been? Impacting your sleep though any soreness are you extra tired or ready to crash early? How's your sleep bed lately Jason? 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Yeah checking first is the right move So check all state first for an auto quote it could save you hundreds you're in good hands with all state potential savings very subject to terms conditions and availability all state North American insurance company and affiliates North Brook Illinois All right, let's get into our combo with Rory McCory back to back That's right, and this conversation is brought to you by sleep number. Yes. It's pretty dope All right next guest today is six-time major champion from Northern Ireland He is a six-person to complete the career grand slam and first year if he had to do it He is the two-time PGA player of the year six-time rider cut winner and he just became the fourth golfer ever to win the Masters and back to back Years 92%ers. Please welcome Rory McClellan In time. I'll have another thing to announce is today your birthday today is my birthday Wanted to spend it with you guys. Thank you. This is That's I wish my first-tea introductions were like that every single day Yeah, anytime you want I will follow you wherever you go and personally give you that one Do you have any birthday plans to start there? What are you? What are you gonna do? What's a Rory birthday? It's sort of I do Yeah, I'm I could have went up to Charlotte today. We're playing the tournament in the tourist championship I could have went up there But I decided to stay at home and spend my birthday with with Erica and Poppy We've got a few friends coming over later. So pretty pretty low-key, but don't think thirty-seven's the biggest of birthdays But yeah, I'll you know, I'll spend it the time at home, which is which is nice There you go, baby. Well, let's let's get to it, baby. Let's talk about what everybody wants to hear about back to back masters Dog I got to catch you on a Friday. I saw you out there. I was screaming it, baby Yeah, I mean jeez like have you touched the club since I have I have I'm like I you know I I did like a solid 10 days of like Celebrating and joy in it. And then I was like, you know, I felt after last year I got not that I got complacent But I got a little like you know this thing that you've wanted to do your whole life and you do it and Then it's like, okay, well, what's next? And I sort of went through that lull I think that all athletes go through where it's like, okay, I've achieved the dream I've achieved everything I've wanted to achieve So I just didn't want to fall back into that this year. So I give myself 10 days. I celebrated I had a good time But I've been practicing for the last yeah for the last 10 days And you know, there's still a lot of golf left this season and I feel like I'm in such a good spot that I don't want You know, I don't want to waste a couple months of the season like I did last year. So But look, I've enjoyed it absolutely, but you know, I feel like it's time to to lock back in where does this one ranked compared to last years? I don't think anything will ever touch last year. You know, you're right. It's 17 years. You're waiting to do this thing and You know, you get to the point and you wonder if it's ever going to happen and then just the emotion and Yeah, I don't think anything will top just the euphoria that all last year, but I think this year was like validation Like I proved last year that I could do it at this place and then I go back and you know Arguably without my best stuff. I mean, I I built a really big lead over the first two days, but To get it done in the manner in which I did it lost a lead on Sunday, came back, played really solid to get it done I think just like validation on my part that you know, this is this is where I should be This is the level that I should be operating on. I mean, it's also just a career Everything kind of came to moment right because that was the last one you needed for the grand slam is like this whole thing That was just kind of hovering above you. I could imagine what that's like. I mean, Travis and I I know we both have talked about when you win That's super bowl. You really like flash back. Oh, so like everything that you did you go back to being like a kid again Thinking about your first football together and putting on the pants for the first time and you see it all come full circle, baby Yeah, all of it and I think that you know, it took me it took me a while to to process it all You know, I've even talked about you know I dropped in my knees when I won that first one and I I get up and I turn around and the first person I see is my Life-long best friend Harry who's on my bike just like it's just like you couldn't even write it like it's just an unbelievable script so there was a lot of stuff to to process there and and it was my goal for so long and and you know Finally, it happened it was like I I probably needed to give myself that time and then this year is it's just it's felt different I you know, I didn't even want it. I didn't want to do the you know going up to New York and doing that the late night shows and doing all that I just you know, I wanted to enjoy it with my friends with my family Yeah, and yeah, as I said luck luck back in a little bit earlier than than I did last year but all of the Going up to New York and doing all that say it's good for the game, man And you're you're obviously been yeah top of the game and one of the biggest names to ever play for such a long time So doing that stuff you're kind of giving back to the game and letting everybody know that yeah There's there's somebody that just accomplished what only five others have done in the entire like history of this game So it's that would I think that's always kind of needed but I hear you on not wanting to like get back into that after this one Was there any like in terms of like before though was there any like prep that you did differently going going into this one that you maybe haven't done in years fast? Yeah, absolutely. So I actually, my last couple of events before the masters in Florida, I tweaked my back a little bit. So I had to pull out of the event in Orlando. And then I probably played, I don't know, probably 75% capacity at the players. So I took three weeks off leading into Augusta. I think more to get my body right. And then it gave me the opportunity to go up to Augusta and prepare maybe more than anyone else in the field, which I actually got a little bit of shit for afterwards, which was weird, but-- Trash on people for practicing, go figure. I know, probably about that. But I felt as prepared as I have going in there, even though I hadn't had any tournament reps. My game felt good. I felt like I'd spent so much time up there. I was so comfortable. But there's always a little bit of trepidation when you haven't played for three weeks, competitively, and you haven't had a card in your hand. It's like, there's first few holes on Thursday. You're just trying to feel like how you feel in, trying to play yourself into the tournaments a little bit. But once I got through that first nine holes on Thursday, I felt really good and from then on, it was awesome. But yeah, I felt as prepared as I ever have going into that tournament. Nice. Is there something about a gust of national that just fits your game specifically? We hear about these courses sometimes. I mean, it seems like you play well everywhere. I guess every course fits you well. Not quite. Not quite as good, every shot is bad, yeah. What is it that makes you so successful down there, you think? I think my experience-- so I've been playing that tournament since 2009, since I was 19 years old. So I've played the tournament 18 times. And it sets up well for my game. I hit it high, I hit it long. And I think over the years, because of the experience, I've just gotten to know the greens so much better and where to miss it. I mean, my short game won me this master's. And even I didn't drive the ball particularly well, which is usually my strength. And my recovery play and my short game is what won me this. So I think it proved to myself that I can win a lot of different ways. It doesn't always have to be about the long-street drives and overpowering a golf course. I can do it different ways. But I've always felt, since the first time I played there, that this was a course that sets up well for me. And I had the potential to do well there. But obviously, that's easier said than done. You need to go out there and hit the shots. And I feel like I was able to do that throughout my career. But I was never really able to piece it together for four days in a row. I'd have like three good days. And then I threw in a 75 or I-- so the last two years, my bad days weren't that bad. And that's what-- I feel like that's what won me the tournament the last couple of years. Hell yeah. Sure. Well, I know you said you caught a little bit of shit for the practicing too much, which was absolutely bogus. But I want to know, did you catch any shit for the Champions dinner menu? Did you get anybody coming after you saying that they didn't want to have this or that? I had a few people from the homeland. I made a quip in the press conference where I said, people have asked me why I didn't do more of an Irish theme. And I said, well, I want to enjoy the dinner as well. So I got a little shit from back home for that. That's what it is. So they were coming at me pretty hard for that at the start of the week. Oh, it's-- No, I mean, I think everyone enjoyed the dinner. I tried to do enough dishes that would please everyone. And I'm a big wine guy. I collect wine, and I have done for the last 10 years. So the wine selection was something that was pretty important to me. Hell yeah. And Augusta National's wine seller is one of the best in the world. I think they have like 20,000, 20,000, 3,000 bottles by now. And that's all just the best advantages from it. I didn't even know how to handle wine. Yeah, it's ridiculous. You learned something about this place every time. So yeah, I had access to that. So that was nice as well. Have you already started thinking about the next year's champion's dinner now? Yeah, I went pretty-- What are you saying? I went pretty fancy this year. Like, it's always on the Tuesday night. So I was like, what? I could just do like a taco Tuesday or something. I don't know. Well, see, I haven't thought about it too much. But yeah, I felt like the-- it's all right. The champion's dinner, the wedge set up. You're sitting beside. Ben Crenshaw is like the unofficial emcee of the night. And then on the other side of you is the chairman Fred Ridley. And it's really nice. I mean, it's the spot you want to be in. You're the defending champion. And it's a big sort of long table, both side like a U-ship. And at the bottom left corner, you've got Trevor Imelman and Adam Scott. And they just look like they're having the best time. They are just having the night of their lives. And I said to Adam and Trevor, that week I said, if I don't win this year, that's right. Just see if me a seat down where you got to go. And then-- I want to be on that. And then Adam texted me after, he's like, well, looks like another year that you've got to win another year to sit with us. But it's an incredible night. And like, to be sitting in that room, it's a bit like-- and Travis, you'll feel this this year whenever you're sitting at your wedding. And you have all the people in a room from-- it's so amazing to have all these people in the CM room from your childhood to people that you've-- it's just you're just sitting there. And it's surreal. It's unbelievable. I know of the funny thing that I can compare to as your wedding day, because it's like all this collection of people in the CM room. It's like wild. I can't wait. As a golfer, it's a privilege of a lifetime. You've got to give me your wine choice, though. What are we doing? Our favorite kind of wine for a celebration. Where are we going? France, Bordeaux. Bordeaux. Bordeaux. Yeah, Bordeaux. That's my-- OK. That's my go-to. On it, deal. Yeah, there you go. Simple. All righty. I know you're more of a wine. I thought you'd be more of the Protestant whiskey up there in Northern Ireland, is it? Bush Mills, all that stuff? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so-- I'm not a big liquor guy at all. But I was thinking of doing a certain cocktail with a Bush Mills, and it just tried a little bit of a nod back home. So I might try to do something like that next year just to appease all those people I pissed off. [LAUGHTER] We're going to talk a little shrink the game if that's all right with you. Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason's been gaining a tag. I'm very-- Yes, you have, yeah. Did he ruin the par three? No, he-- like, I thought you were very additive to the par three. Nice. You were very additive. Thank you, bro. I appreciate-- I mean, it's-- a part of me gets it because I feel like golf is growing more than ever in the any sport. The sport is exploding right now. And with that growth, I think in any sport, naturally, comes-- like, it starts to change if people that have been around it for a long time are like, hey, I don't know that I like where it's going. And in a sport like golf that's so based in history and tradition, I think that the shrink the game movement isn't that surprising that it is happening with golf. Think with golf at Augusta, too, in particular, it's like there's more tradition in history with that place than any other. So it's like the symbol of what golf has come from. But at the same time, I think the sport growing is good for it at the end of the day. It's just there's going to be this natural tug and pull of like, how do we grow this thing, but also celebrate and keep these, you know, these-- what has been awesome and made golf special still a part of this change in having a progress and move forward all at the same time? Absolutely. Like, I agree. Like, I think it is. One of the silver linings, at least for golf post-COVID, has been this explosion in the game. And my thing is, like, I think when people say, grow the game, they mean different things. To me, to me, what the real thing of growing the game is, is growing the participation in the sport, right? Getting more people to play the game. I feel like, especially in the professional world, when I like the PJ Tour World, when people talk about growing the game, they're talking about growing like the fan base and growing like the people that watch the sport, which is a part of it. But I think growing the game is actually getting more people to play. Like, I think that golf is a participation sport. Like, you want people to play. So like, that to me, I'm doing, if what ESPN did, for example, at the Masters, encourages people to go and play the game, I think that's amazing. Yeah. I think that's absolutely incredible. And yes, Augusta is very traditional in its ways. And golf is very traditional. But I don't think any other golf organization pushes the envelope as much as Augusta does. Because they had, dude, perfect, doing all sorts of stuff on a man corner a couple of years ago. And they've embraced what you guys did with the part three. And they're always like, you can't. Golf demographic is old. How do we get it younger? And then if you get the young people in early, then they'll be in golf for the rest of their life. That's a really good thing. So I'm not-- I think there's certain values and traditions in golf that should stay because I think it teaches young people good lessons, whether it be like, come young yesterday, calling a penalty on himself. After all, that stuff is really important. But I think-- you can still uphold the values and the traditions of the game, but still appeal to like a younger demographic. I don't think those two are, I think you can do that both at the same time. Call me a cheater, Rory. I'm not telling them. I need every fucking stroke I can get. I might even move it a little bit onto a better, I might just go ahead move this a little bit. I know one's not good. The people that are talking about shrink the game, it's like you look at what a gust it does and all the traditions and the values and then some of the things that they've tried to do to modernize and basically just try to fit in with the 21st century. It's jarring because it's such a contrast. I think there's some people that are just a little uneasy with that, but if we're really trying to grow the game, this is a part of a, you need to try to lean into pop culture and what's relevant at this day and the age and I don't see anything wrong with that. So you're more of a grow the game guy, you would say. I'm more of a grow the game got like the more people playing golf the better. And however you do that, whether that's from top golf or obviously you guys were at TGL and trying to appeal to a younger demographic or some of the other initiatives that like, yeah, that's obvious. That's obvious. But growing the game but still upholding the traditions and values that the golf has. Again, I think you can do both. I love it. Well, one of the things, that was my first time being at a part three that I loved and we've seen all the clips like poppy, obviously, like that clip will be cemented in my brain to that pot. Shane Lauer is going crazy. I mean, that is such an awesome moment. Yeah. That is the cool thing about that part three. Everybody's family, their wives, their significant others, their friends. Is that as unique to you guys as it appears to us in the sport of golf? It is, I think, you're basically getting ready for what is arguably the biggest tournament of the year. But you have this afternoon with your family on Wednesday that just makes you forget about everything that's going to happen for the next four days. Poppy talks, she's probably talking about the part three for next year already. It's just like, you got to, you know, she grows. So you got to get her another boiler, another white boiler set that fits. And she's just so excited to go out there and spend time with her friends. It's incredible. It's like it's the most amazing day for the family. And I think the nice thing for us is we're very close with the Lowrys and with the Fleetwoods. So we have all the kids spend that time together. And make those memories as they grow up. I mean, they're going to grow up like with that, you know, every, every year. And, you know, the focus this year was will Frankie clear the water. No, no, I'm not. Well, Frankie clear the water. Like it's, it's gonna happen. It's close. He was, he was, he was, and so was Iris. She in, she ends daughter. Iris was pretty close as well. So, but it's just, it is, it is amazing. It's one of the coolest things about the masters. And like if people don't like it, like that's, you know, they have to look at themselves and look at their own lives because it's just, it's families having fun. And honestly, it's a great image to portray to the rest of the world that, that golfers are human beings and they're enjoying time with their families. And it's, it's a really nice thing. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I will say this. The one thing. So I, I went over to Dublin for the, to watch the first NFL game over there. Yeah. Was it the Steelers and, and it was Steelers and Vikings on Vikings. Yeah. And the atmosphere was incredible. But it was my second time going over to Ireland. My wife is her whole family to make devets. So they have a bunch of. Yeah. She's in the Irish dances and everything. No doubt. But the golf culture there is incredible. And I was there actually with Bill Murray. One of the things he pointed out was that in Ireland, a lot of the caddies actually belong in our members of the courses. And it just felt more like a communal vibe the entire time when I was out there. It was spectacular. Absolutely. There's, there's no real like purely private golf courses. It's all like a sort of land of public and private. They're all like semi private. So you have, you have memberships, but then they're also open to the public. At certain times of the day or certain T times and it's, it's a, it's a, it's a better way. I feel a better way to do it. And it's definitely more accessible. Because even you get to like even, I don't know how much they're charging to get into Trik National or like here at the Bears Club, you're having to pay a million bucks to get like all this sort of stuff. It's like, it just is so far into me. And I think if America could get a little bit more of that where golf is, like, I don't know if you've been down here. I've, you seen the park in West Palm Beach. Do you know what you know about the park? No, it's like, it's like a public golf facility. And it's been, it's amazing. It's like Gil Hans did it for free. And it's been a lot of like these investors that put money into it. But it's honestly, if the park in West Palm Beach could be replicated like 50 times around the country, like that would be an amazing way to grow the game. There's like a, there's like a par three course called the Lit 9 that opens until like midnight. It is like the best communal sort of, it's, and it's for, it's purely for the community. So if you're, if you're like within like a 10 mile radius of of West Palm Beach, I think you get to play the course for like 60 bucks. But for people coming out to stay at it, it's like 250. That's also so, it's still the local community. So like, that's the, I think that's, it's hard though, because you need wealthy people to like donate money. And that's the hard thing. It's hard to make it pencil out. We're dealing with actually in Philadelphia, and Tiger has been a big part of the cops creep. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think that is strictly public. And maybe there is a pride. I'm not sure the parameters of that. But there's a whole like learning center that Tiger's built. And it's very like unity based. Yeah, more of that stuff is like, and then I think Augusta did one called the patch, which is just over like close by like, I think more of those sorts of places would be, would be amazing. Actually played nine at the patch before one of the rounds is here down down Augusta. That place is spectacular. You didn't break 50. I did great. I was, I was having one of the rounds of my life. I didn't even, I thought I was going to pull hook this thing out of the airport. There's a land trip right there. Hi, we're going to get this last section. Let you enjoy your birthday. We got to ask. We got to ask. You don't have to ask. You can tell us, fuck off too. We just talked about Poppy. I am also a girl, Dad. I'm trying to get my daughter into golf. Do you have any advice? Look, I think I don't know if I have advice. I just think to me at being a golfer, I don't want Poppy to associate golf with me like leaving and not spending time with her. The more that I can get her on the golf course and playing and enjoying it, I think that's, but in terms of advice, just make it fun. Whatever that means, let them drive the golf cart or have it be where okay, we go play golf and then we'll go get ice cream or we, you know, to not the treat going to the golf course, then you get a reward, but just more that like, just that they have a positive, I don't know, positive views. Yeah, experience and view of it. But I will say that Poppy takes a lesson from the local pro here and he can get her to stand and concentrate and do stuff for 40 minutes. I literally can't get her to do something for five minutes on the putting green. So there is, it is just something where kids just, you know, at some point, don't want to listen to their parents, but they'll listen to other people. To me, I obviously won't golf to be a part of Poppy's life, but if she takes an interest and wants to play more, that's great, but if not, I just wanted to have a positive view of golf. Whatever that means. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And also instill those morals and everything where she is calling her own penalty, unlike somebody who have a special. I thought I had a very similar approach to you. He always wanted us to just, you know, if we picked up the sticks or if we picked up the sport than the following year, he was like, I did my job. They're enjoying this. They're pursuing it on their own. He was a literally baseball coach in the community, like, Lee growing up for such a long time. One of the coolest things I ever heard was like, Dad, do you like, do you love winning? Like what's making you do this? He's like, I just love it when I see the kids pick up the bat the next year or sign up for it again the next year because they had such a good time doing it when they were, they were playing this year. So I think it's such a cool thing to just try and like, force these kids to enjoy themselves more than really locking on, you know, making it a grind at such a young age. Absolutely. And even like, for, like, if you're still like, for me, playing competitively, if I do get myself in that little bit of a funk or it's starting to feel like a job, like just reminding of your, reminding yourself, yourself of why you started to play the game in the first place. There we go. We do have a swing that we'd like you to continue. I might be as good as Max Homa, but let me, let me. Max is going to me some tips. This is a different swing. Oh, look at this. This is my daughter Wyatt first time picking up a driver. Are they hunter boots? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She got some rain boots on. So perspective, we went to trigger to the driving range. Normally, she'll just go putt, right? And I'm starting to hit. And she's, I had it. Can I hit a couple? So we go to the, like, the guy who runs this specific range. and ask if he has like a kid's driver. For sure enough, he has a pink driver. First time swinging a club. God's honest. - Okay. - Here we go. - Well, this is actually maybe 50 times it, but first day, first day. - Hey, pretty good. - Pretty good. - Yeah. - I'm proud to head right here. Dude, what do you think? She's got it, right? (laughing) - Jason. - Pretty good. I mean, the first thing is, the first thing that I did with Poppy was try to get her to grip the club properly. And it looks like she's got a pretty decent grip. - So that was difficult, 'cause the first time she grabbed it, she had the left hand on the bottom. - Blue right here. - She's like out at first. Yeah, which some guys are doing now. There's one kid, one of the amateurs. You see that? - Yes, I did. The guy in the drive chip and pot. - Yes, yeah, that's what it was. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you look at like a Matt Fitzpatrick. He's left blue right when he's chipping. There's a few guys. - That's right, that's crazy. - But pretty good, it's like, I mean, some potential. - Some potential. - He's got it. - He's going wild. - I mean, I gotta, I gotta go wild. - I'm gonna get the dryer. I'm gonna get the dryer out in the backyard. - Yeah. - So she can start chipping. - Absolutely, that's it. - That's it, yeah. - Yeah, make sure it's in the backyard because I broke one or two windows doing not in my phone and bad touch when I was a kid. (laughing) - It's Jason deserves to get his windows broken from when he was a kid. (laughing) - Oh, circle moment. You've done the devil wears Prada's sequel and the happy Gilmore sequel. Are you kidding me? You're a movie star now, man. - Well, I'm not a movie star. If you watch me act, you will tell. - I'm not a movie star, that is not. But yes, Travis, both of us in Happy Gilmore 2, which was very cool. Sandler is like the coolest guy alive. - Absolutely. - Yeah, so the devil wears Prada thing was so random. I won the Players Championship last year and they asked me afterwards, like, what did you do last night to prepare? I said, well, I had dinner and I got back to the room and I watched devil wears Prada, like. - That is. (laughing) - So not- - Get in the zone. - Not knowing exactly. I'm not knowing that the director, David Frankl, somehow I got wind of it and his son is actually a really, really good player trying to make it as a pro at the minute, played college golf, but I think it's Stanford. - Nice, I don't know yet. - So the team reached out and said, like, Dave was wondering if you would wanna do some sort of cameo and I said to my wife, Erica, I'm like, yeah, what do you think? And she's like, yeah. - Absolutely. - You get the fuck in there. (laughing) - And then I text by, I said, do you think, do you think Erica could be in a two? And they're like, sure, bring her along. I was like, this is so, we spent the day in New York and did it and it was an unbelievable experience. But yeah, like I, again, I have a day job and that is, I am, it's cool to be able to do these things and it's cool experience being on a movie set, but I am not cut out for that. It is. Hey, those guys, it's long days and it's a grind. It is, it's a grind. - Have you ever tried out the happy Gilmore swing? Have you ever tried to perfect that? - I haven't tried to perfect it, I've tried it. I think we all did like any kid that grew up like when the first movie came out. - For sure. - But yeah, no, it's, and in fairness, like, I mean, back in the day, like, Sonsar was so good at it. - Two, right. - Like, he's really good at it. I mean, he's, he can do this. But no, I, yeah, I'm not. I like, I like like, like, structure and like, anything that's like a little bit out of my, out of my zone, I'm, I'm not great with. - Oh yeah. - Well, you, I mean, legendarily, one of the furthest drivers on two, like, what is your average drive on tour right now? - I'd say I average like three, I don't know, three 25, three 30, probably average like three 20 in the air. - Oh, nice soft land, nice. - I've worked on it. I would say like pre-COVID. Like, I bring it back to, so pre-COVID, I was probably like, I was probably carrying the ball like 305-ish. So I'm probably like 15 yards longer in the air. But to me, the big turning point was, after COVID, when we all came back out to play, Bryson had put on like 40 points. And he was hitting the ball so far, and then he went to Wingfoot. And he won the U.S. Open at Wingfoot, playing in a way that I never thought could win a U.S. Open. Completely just, it wasn't really, it wasn't caring about hitting fairways, but just hitting it as far as possible. - We'll figure it out. - Yeah, go ahead to the rough. - Yeah, and it just made me rethink a little bit. Be like, and I probably started to cheer the distance a little too much. But then I sort of have found a bit of a happy medium where I've done some good work in the gym, and I'm certainly faster than I once was. And yeah, I got to a point where I can swing it with speed, but not having my swing deteriorate and getting into bad habits. So, but it's the game has changed. Like, and I would say, I'd say not to blow my own horn, but I'd say myself and Dustin Johnson, back in like 2011-2012, we sort of changed. - Yeah, we sort of changed the way the game was played for a little bit because if you look before that, like Tiger, how does success? There was a lot of like conservative strategies, irons off teas, fairway woods off teas. And then when DJ and I came out, we just were like aggressive driver everywhere. - Blast. - And then I think Bryson almost took it to another level again. So, and then you have to, like you guys know, like in any profession or anything you do, you're always trying to look for ways to get better. And you're looking at your competitors, you're looking at other guys and like, okay, what did they do that I can't do or walk in? So, you're always just trying to figure out ways to do it a little bit better. - No, it is, and especially in a day and age where there's so many analytics, like to your point, like a lot of the analytics support, just get as close to the hole with your next shot as possible, right? - Absolutely. - Part five, just go for it. - Absolutely. - On your second shot. And just get up and down if you're off by a little bit, count, especially if you're the type of players that are on the PGA tour, to try and just get a rescue shot in there. But it is interesting in football, it's the same thing. Like these analytics get pushed in a way that eventually they're being pushed so much that you're doing it at a level that's counterproductive. - Yeah. - So it's like you still have to be smart within that exact parameter as well. It's the same thing that happens in our sport. Like everybody sees these big plays down the field. It's like, hey, we should just be striking for big plays. And it's like, hey, now everybody's playing these soft, prevent defenses. You're not taking what's underneath. And it's, yeah. - Once the analytic is no longer the way to win. Sorry. - I know, absolutely. Well, it depends on the situation, right? Like it's not like if you've got a third and three, you're not going to, like, that's not what you're going to do. You're not going to go for the long ball over the top. And it's like, it's- - Are you too worried? I'm telling you dude. - You know that they don't think that you aren't going to do it right now. - Sorry. - Until you have Travis catchin' it down the field. I would like, yeah, it is very, it's situational. And you have to, because the analytics and the stats can't, they can't cover everything. And they can't tell you, like, in this scenario, or that scenario, it's like, sometimes you've got to go with your gut instinct and sort of through the numbers like the window at some point. But they are, they're a good guide. They're certainly a good guide. But I don't think we should, in anything, I don't think we should rely on them. Because we're all athletes and we all got here, not because of the analytics of the stats. Yeah, they might have helped in some ways, but because of ability and intuition and trusting yourself, you know, there's all of that as well. - Do you have a Mount Rushmore of golf courses? - Ooh, of golf courses. - What's your top four? - I met, was that four? - Yes. - Yeah, sorry. - Yeah, I was about to say, yeah, that's four, yeah, that's four. - I should probably know that. - We've never asked that to somebody, not from America, that's so good, that's nice. - Okay, I would say, oh, it's, okay. I would say, I'll go four different places. I'll go Kingston Heath in Australia. - Okay. - I would go to Royal County down in Northern Ireland. - Royal County down. - I would do Pine Valley on the East Coast. And then I would do Cyprus Point. Cyprus Point. - Ooh, West Coast. - Yeah, that's so hard because like there's so, like there's, I'm leaving out so many great golf courses. It's hard to do four, but like, yeah, those would be the four off the top of my head. - I'll take this, you just took us around the world. That's pretty dope. I've got four that I haven't fucking played, so I'm excited to try and play all four. - You played Pebble Beach this year. - Let's see when Roy's over your talking about what are the best courses to see with this day's head four. - I did, I played Pebble and I was just like, there was one point where you're, I think, I think you're on Pebble's like one of the par threes down by the water on the front nine and you're like looking over at Cyprus. - And that's its spyglass. - So that was spyglass. - Yeah, third green is spyglass, yeah. - And I'm just staring at it. I'm just like, that place looks pretty fucking epic. I'll just like, and everyone raves about it, man. - Yeah, like it's those sort of old traditional golf courses that have all the history and all the, again, it's like, it's going back to that groove the game thing. I think there's, you know, that's a cool thing about golf and all these historical golf courses and all that stuff. But then, you know, that doesn't have to be mutually exclusive to then appealing the different demographic as well. I mean, I think we can enjoy both within the game. - Jason, I was up, I was up in, I was up in Philly on Friday played aeronomic. - Oh really, getting ready for the championship. - Getting ready for the PGA, yeah. - Yeah, what, what'd you think? - It's good, it's looking really good. No one, there's no one on the course since October, I think. So like, not a divot in the fairway, not a pitch park on the ground. - Oh, that's gonna be beautiful. - Really nice. - It's a good shape. Do you have a favorite course in the Philly area that you've played? - It's probably Marion. I don't have much, like I've played most of them, but I would say Marion. But do you would you call Pine Valley in the Philly area? - No, I would say, I mean, it's South Jersey. I mean, it's close enough. But yeah, I heard my trout's place is supposed to be really good. - I just played it yesterday. - Thanks for the invite, Jason. - Eight me alive. The grin was blown, it's long. - Yeah. - I suck. - Lot of reasons. - I was gonna say, what course has an idea of that? - Good point, good point. No, they did a fantastic job with that place. - Yeah, it looks really good. - How many times will you play, will that be the only time you'll play around on me before the championship or the PGM? - Yeah, so I go, I'll play Charlotte this week, and then I'll just go straight there. Yeah, so Charlotte's like, it's a big tournament, but it's a nice warmup to go into the PGA, you know? Especially after having three weeks off. - I hear this a lot about the difference of like the turf between like the South, especially down in Florida, versus like the Northeast. How does that change your approach? Does it alter things that much? - I always wanted to know this. - Yeah, so around the greens is definitely different. So, Bermuda, you notice the most difference when you're chipping, like chipping, and on the rough, like Bermuda grass is. - Yeah, it's probably my least favorite grass to chip out of, so it's a good thing I live in Florida, 'cause I get a bit more practice. - Yeah, Northeast, it's like thicker blades. It's a little more predictable. I think if you're chipping out of the rough in the Northeast, that sort of bent grass or rye grass, it's a little more predictable, which is nice. And then, yeah, the turf is different. The club gets through the grass a bit easier. I'd say most players prefer to play off that sort of turf. - Is that more similar to what's over in the UK and Ireland? Or is that even different up there? - It's a little, yeah, 'cause we play mostly links courses. It's a little more, it's different. It's firmer turf, but it's very, I guess the grass would be quite. What's the word, like fine? So it's fetching grass, it's fine, and it's. - It's just his favorite. - Yeah, it's different, yeah. - I'm like a cow, I like to love the fish. - Yeah, there you go, this guy. - So when you get your agricultural degree, dude, it's so crazy as you have to know which grasses are fine and which way they grow and everything, like it's crazy, or at least if you wanna be a nerd about it, which I feel like all of the best athletes in the world are like, they love their profession so much, they wanna know a to that detail, you know what I mean? - Yeah, I think you get it through experience. I don't think, I mean, did I want to know about different grasses and different greens? I like, no, but you have to learn how the ball reacts on certain greens, and I think for me growing up not from here, and then I guess the first couple of years of my career playing all over the world, so going to the Southern hemisphere playing inside Africa, playing in Australia, playing in Asia, you know, you just, you have to figure it out. And you have to be adaptable. And I think that's been probably one of the hallmarks of my career and one of the big reasons for my consistency is I've learned how to play in a lot of different environments. - Well, I gotta say, probably the most difficult environment I've ever played in was Northern Ireland at a club called Art Glass. - Have you played Art Glass before? - I have played Art Glass and Art Glass is the home course of my coach, Michael Bonn. So I've really, I've looked, Michael Bonn has been my coach since I was seven years old, and that's his home course. - It was stunning, the views, everything, and I got the true Irish Lynx golf experience. I mean, I got all seasons and 18 holes. Front nine, double rain gloved up, like freezing, trying to hit this ball. It was, but I had a blast. There's some about being in those environments, like when it's like that, that you kind of forget about trying to shoot your best round. All the stress gets put out of it. It's like, dude, I'm just gonna enjoy what's happening right now, 'cause this is absolutely crazy. - Yeah, yeah, and that's the part of it, right? We play an outdoor sport and I think that is all a part of it. I would say, like I grew up in that stuff. And I've lived in Florida for the last 14 years, so I've probably got a little soft. Like, I used to be, after school, I'd go out in that stuff, and then I think about, like, like, nowadays, it's not a very nice day here. And it's like, maybe drizzling. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I want to go practice today. - Let me ask you this, have you ever, are you a double rain glove guy when it gets too crazy? Or you just-- - I am, I think it looks terrible. I mean, I think it makes us look so soft. But it's just, yeah, you have to be able to hold up. You have to be able to hold on to the club. I think as well, like the wetter those gloves get, like the tackier they get. So it's like, you don't have to worry about drying your grips or like, it just, yeah, it makes it a bit easier, but it does make us look incredibly soft. - I embrace it. I embrace the softness I have to. All right. - Hey, look, you did what you did for a living, for a long time, so no one can say you're soft. - Good question, that, fair enough. Do you have a welcome to professional golf moment? We ask every kind of guest here, the welcome to their career, like what was the moment? Or you're like, man, I'm really on the PGA tour. - Yeah, it was probably even before that. I, and it's a really, it's around the moment. I played in the third round of the Singapore Open in 2008 with Ernie Elz. - Ernie, the big easy. - Ernie, the big easy, who ended up becoming a great, a great friend of ours, but I played with him, and it was my first full year on tour. - I was doing pretty well. I was trying to get into the top 50 in the world, so I would qualify for all the majors in next year, and I'm paired with Ernie. And we tee off the first hole at Stosa Golf Club. And this is really, I don't know why this sticks out so much, but I hit a three-wood off the tee, and he hit a driver, and I got up there and I was like 10 yards past him with my three-wood as he was a driver. And I was like, okay, here we go. - He's fine. - I was like, holy shit, this is nice. And that's all it took. I was like, I belong, I just said, by three-wood past our main driver. - I belong, that's so badass. - That was like a big, you know, Ernie was, he's obviously a great player, for major championships, and, you know, one of the best players of that generation, and it was just sort of like, and I think I ended up beating them that day by a few shots, and that was like a big moment for me. - That's crazy. - Yeah, 18 years ago. - Hold it for the big guys, the swing in the sticks. Yeah, I got it, I wish I could have a tempo, fuck. - Dude, appreciate the time, appreciate the stories, man. Happy birthday, again, thank you. Good luck up in Philly and our first over in Charlotte, and then up in Philly, man, you know, we'll be watching, always rooting for you, brother. - Appreciate it. 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(upbeat music) - We didn't address that woman referring to it as skin children, though, I feel like we kind of glossed over that in the voice. - No, I didn't love. - I didn't. - I didn't love. - I was with her until she said that, and I wanted a more of a-- - I didn't want to go there. - I did it as a children. - We all made a face, everybody made a face when they heard it. We can all just move on, but I did hear it. You heard it, though. - I didn't hear it. - I didn't even understand what that woman was talking about. - Didn't love it. I don't like that phrase. I don't think we need to-- I think I'm with her until she used that, and we can stop that phrase right now. - That's fair. - I'm just real confused on what skin children means. - She called her pets her fur children. - I saw the fur children. I saw, I heard, I remember hearing the fur children. - She called her pets her fur children, and she said, "Because I don't have skin children, people don't consider me a mother." - Don't like that. - Don't pigs have skin? Is that like one of the things that's very similar to pigs and human points?