Kylie on WORST Things To Say To Women, Uncle Trav's Otters & Baby Scouting Report w/ Mina Kimes | Ep. 58

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Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original brought to you by Yasso. Ridiculously better. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. I'm tuning in to the Paralympics because you should be too. Let's cheer on Team USA. I'm still learning how to say, can I pet your dog in Italian? I did ask while I was there using Google Translate if it's appropriate to ask Italians to pet their dogs. I was not discouraged. And I'm the mother of another birthday girl. That's right. This week, Elliot Ray Kelsey turns a whole hand. That's so sad. That's so sad. It's also today, the day that we're recording. It's March 3rd. It is Ellie's fifth birthday. There were some presents on the table today. She got a chair that she can sit inside of. Don't ask questions. That's ridiculous. She likes to be cuddled. And the chair is now a backup. She did pick her cake. She shares a birthday with my dad. And I do think that she picked the cake based on my dad, which is so Ellie-coded. She wants a chocolate cake with bubbles. Bugs Bunny holding a carrot on top of it. And Bugs Bunny is one of my dad's favorite characters. And they haven't talked about it in quite some time, but that's what she picked. And I really think that it's because she wanted my dad to be excited about the cake. She's so sweet. I can't believe she's five. It really, it messes me up. Coming up on today's episode, the return of You Know What's Fucked Up in honor of a certain social phenomenon I've decided to take upon myself to shut down in honor of women everywhere. Happy Women's History Month. Indeed. Then in Doom Scroll of the Week, some more of my hottest pacifier takes since the real ones enjoyed them so much last week. After that, I'm going to be joined by ESPN NFL analyst, fellow mom, Jason's coworker, all-around badass woman in sports, and someone, you guessed it, I have no business speaking to, Mina Kimes. But before we get into all that, let's get our real one mention of the week. This week, we are utterly awesome. Honored. And Queen Emma's in on the puns today. What are you doing? What are you doing? This is silly. To get a shout out from some real ones at the Philly Zoo who shared photo updates on the otter the girls and I adopted for Uncle Trav. Let's see what it is. Not going to lie, our giant river otters are still screeching with excitement over their new zoo parent, Uncle Trav. And we learned that Uncle Trav is actually. The zoo parent to three otters? We met Thor. I don't know if we met the other ones. We met Thor. They're so loud, it's aggressive. What do you mean you don't remember if we met Thor? We met Thor. We met Thor because Thor has a thunderbolt on his chest. Isn't Thor the lightning something or other? Yeah. I'm really. I'm really. I'm really clued in, guys. Is that Marvel? Marvel characters. That's not a Marvel character. Thor's not a Marvel character. Thor's a Marvel character. Jesus Christ. Queen Emma wants us to do a collab with the otter podcast, aka the other podcast. But I just feel like that would be a dumpster fire. We'll see how it goes. If any real ones want to support the Philadelphia Zoo, you can adopt all sorts of animals, with a donation. Yeah, you should do that. Moving on, it's time for the return of my favorite segment. You know what's fucked up? Hey, you know what's fucked up? Assuming a woman is pregnant or trying to get pregnant when she simply declines a drink. Oh my gosh. I. This happens to me all the time, okay? When I say all the time, I mean all the time. I've been on record multiple times informing the real ones that I do, in fact, not usually drink. I don't usually do it. I do not. I just don't like it that much. I think water or iced tea or a crispy Coke, they're all better. Let me go even further. Worse than that is commenting to her face in response to her declining a beverage. I may or may not have recently had someone offer me a beverage. And when I said, oh, no, thank you, they said, are you pregnant? I'm not joking. Now, to be fair, you picked the right bitch. Because I actually, I can brush it off pretty fast. But let's not do that. Because we've said it so many times. You never know what someone is going through, what they have gone through previously, what stage they are at in their journey, if they are building a family. In other words, they could be trying. And you could be bringing something up that's not really good. Or even weirder, think about this. You could be saying it to someone who has actively chosen to not have kids. Which is also none of your business. You know what I mean? As always, I'm speaking for myself and my own experiences. But I do think most women would agree. Maybe we just shouldn't do that. Because in the same way that if someone looks like, huh, maybe they could be pregnant. We don't then ask, are you pregnant? Don't do that. We're not smirking at people. Just because you didn't ask the question doesn't mean that you're smirk. Or raising your eyebrows is better than that. You're not. But that's equally bad. It's almost worse. Because now, do I address you doing that? And if I do address you doing that, does it seem like I'm being defensive? You're making it weird. And you've put us both in this situation now. And that's not fun for anyone. So. This is similar to when people, when Jason and I first got married. And people would ask, are you trying? And I would say. We practice a lot. Now it's weird for both of us. Why do you need to know that? That's between me and my husband. No. What should you do instead, you may ask? Here's a few options. Okay. Offer her something else to drink. And then move on. Or. Don't offer her something else to drink. And move on. Another option. Mind your business. This is one of my favorite options. Again, you picked the right person. I'm actually not super bothered by it. Would I have preferred if you had not looked at my stomach and then looked me back in my own eyeballs? Yeah. I would have preferred that. But. At the end of the day. Let's go over some scenarios. Some people could have had a loss. Some people could be actively in IVF treatments. Some people could have a diagnosis. That could make. That could make it physically not possible for them to have kids even though they would like to. Some people might have addiction to alcohol and be in recovery. Some people might just not like the fucking taste. That's me. I just don't like the taste of it. There are so many reasons. I could keep going. I'm not going to because I feel you get my point now. If you have something that you have said in response to an inquiry about maybe a pregnancy status. And. Or. Why you do or don't drink. Feel free to drop it in our DMs or in our comments at @nglwithkylie. I'm very curious to know what are some good ones that we can unleash. And that's it for You Know What's Fucked Up. Next, let's get to Doom Scroll of the Week brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Now this is taxes. First up on Doom Scroll, I guess my algorithm heard my comments on Benny and her pacifiers last week because now I'm getting lots of suggestions on. on how to kick the habit. Queen Emma, the clip please. says he's not a baby anymore. The moment he said goodbye to his pacifier truly went down in history. They attached a whole wad of balloons to the end of this pacifier and let it fly up into the air. Oh, he's waving to it. Oh no. Okay. All of these methods are lovely. Okay. I love the idea of making it some type of beautiful moment. You want to send it away with some balloons. Beautiful. You want to box it up and, and send it to kids who need pacifiers. Beautiful. You want to plant it in the garden and grow a couple of cake pops. Beautiful. Um, I'm going to tell you right now, that's all fun and games until they get pissed or tired. And there's no passy. Okay. We've been there. I'm going to tell you how I got Wyatt. It was irresponsible as a parent because it only created, you guessed it, more responsibility for us as the parents. Um, we went to the store. I still can't believe we did this. We went to the store and we exchanged her passies for a fish. Named? Mm-hmm. Passy. Yep. Here's the deal. I don't recommend. I don't. Because like I said, we then acquired the responsibility of taking care of a fish, which, oh God, this is such a bad confession. Did the fish die because they may or may not have dropped a marker in the tank? Oh, I shouldn't laugh. That poor fish. They were constantly trying to give, they were constantly trying to give the fish things. And it turns out that passy actually couldn't receive things because passy was a fish. And I say was because that marker took passy to her grave. We had to have a whole conversation about fish heaven. It's a, maybe keep yourself. Let's not, let's not exchange pacifiers for a more difficult conversation. Don't do what I did. Are we getting another fish when Benny has to get rid of this passy? Fuck no. Okay. We might try the method of like snip the ends of it. If you snip the ends, it doesn't quite give the same satisfaction. And you slowly snip the ends of it. It doesn't quite give the same satisfaction. away at it. Like I said, one of these days we're going to be done with a passy. And when will we do that? When we're fucking good and ready, leave us alone. Last scroll. As the real ones know by now, the best part of TikTok is the comment section. And I, I can't even begin to explain how quickly, I mean, Olympic gold medal sprint, if you will, to the comments for this one. Queen Emma, can you play the clip, please? Because good God. Anybody seen ketchup before I have to ask my wife for my audio listeners. He's asking if anyone has seen the ketchup and he is scanning his fridge. He goes down the door once he goes to the middle of the back to the like inside of the fridge and then he goes back to the door. Okay. Of course. My ass clock, the ketchup. That's easy. Next question. I don't, you, I don't know if I've addressed this on here, but I did address it in my vows. And let me tell you what my husband needs from me. I can guarantee that he will always need me to find things for him. That is part of our relationship. It's part of our love language. He knows that it excites my soul when he says, have you seen my truck keys? It excites me because, you're fucking right. I have. And I clocked it. I feel very strongly about this. Anyway, I have to go to the comments. You have to, you rush, you rush, you run. This person said, no, go ask your wife and bring us with you. And it is a face of someone who is trying their very best not to laugh. Okay. Outstanding. The next person said, Yes, all the women saw it in eight seconds. And I think that eight seconds is generous, honestly. This last one was the comment that got me. This was the one where I was like, Emma, put it in the rundown. The person said, you want the Hunts or the Hines? Guys, in case you didn't realize, there are two catch-ups. First of all, it is absolutely, I would just like to say, batshit crazy to have two brands of catch-up in your fridge. I just want to throw that out there. As someone who is a strict condiment household, strict, okay? You will not. I'm so sorry to do this. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say the brand. You will not catch me with Hunts catch-up in my fridge. You will not. It will never be. There will be Hines catch-up in my fridge. Okay. My six-year-old would sniff that shit out so fast and then laugh in my face for trying to serve it to her. Okay. Absolutely not. Hell to the no. It's going to be French's yellow mustard every time. Literally every time. And Hellman's mayonnaise. Don't argue with me. Don't fucking come in my comments with Duke's. I swear to God, I'm not even a mayo person. I will go to the pits of fucking hell on this discussion. I'm not having it with you. I'm not. I clocked the Hines the second it entered the screen. The Hunts, I saw on the second scan of the fridge door because it's not my brand. It's not my brand. My eyes were looking for the Hines because I thought this gentleman, he's doing the right thing. He's not my wife. How kind. He knows what's up. He has to be a Hines man. It turns out he's unhinged because he has two different types of ketchup in his fridge. That's for another day. All right. That's it for Doom Scroll of the Week brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Coming up, I'm about to be joined by one of the best NFL analysts in the game, Mina Kimes. But first, some messages from me. The real ones know my stance on ice cream. It's not really for me. I like it, but it's adjacent to dessert. Jason loves it, and I don't really need it that much. So I'll leave it. More for him. But if we're talking about Yasso, I'll take that. Yasso took everything you love about ice cream and upgraded it with creamy frozen Greek yogurt. 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And more importantly, the way my husband speaks about you and your knowledge and the way that you break down the game. He speaks extremely highly of you, which only made me more invested in anything you had to say. But speaking of my husband, he's been your coworker at ESPN now for two NFL seasons. I have to ask, who's the most difficult person on the desk and why is it my husband? It's absolutely not him. He is, unfortunately, like so far down on the Diva rankings in sports media. I know you hate to hear it. I wish I had an embarrassing story or even like a secondhand story. And sadly, it's all rave reviews. And I'll embarrass him for a second. You know, I don't know him super well, but in our interactions, because my show is on Monday Night Football. He's on Monday Night Countdown. We're on before that. So he works with a couple of guys on my show who adore him as well, Ryan Clark and Marcus Spears. So we are all on the road in the same cities every Monday. And people always ask me two questions I'll bring up. One is, you know, oh, what's it like dealing with so much crap from men because your job? And the first thing I always say is it's on the Internet. It is not like that, actually, with my colleagues or even people in the NFL. It's been an amazing experience. They are so supportive, so cool. It's entirely external. And then the other thing people say is, well, how can men help women? Because there aren't that many of us, particularly ones who do my job. And I think your husband is an extremely great example of how you do that, which is just by being freaking normal, like asking, like just engaging in like normal football conversations with me. And it is not about like being a, you know, weird performative ally. It's the things you don't see. It's if I make a comment about something I see in my life, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, and bring it up, which sounds so small. But those are the things that actually I feel like I'm embarrassing you transitive property here. But those are the things that actually help. He has been awesome in that regard. And many of my coworkers are equally awesome. Oh, that's honestly, it's it's lovely here. We love to we love to joke around around here. But I know how much he has loved working with everyone that you guys have on Monday nights. So it is it is nice. I'm sure he would be blushing and telling you now, but it's lovely to hear about him in such a nice way. Now, have you been surprised by any outfit or stunt that he's done at this point? Not really. Actually, the instrument thing. Well, that was the beginning of the season, right? When they were in the band. Yes, I didn't know. Yeah, that shocked me. Yeah, we're like, what's dad doing? And I was like, playing the saxophone apparently tonight. Who knew? I love that. That was I think Baltimore, if I remember. Yes, I believe a great bit. But it was not surprising. No, because I feel I feel like it would take a lot at this point. Okay, I'll tell him to up his game so that he can surprise you. Now, this is not my first time singing your praises on the show. I don't know if you saw this. But when Taylor's quote from the other podcast went viral, we played your TikTok using the sound. Queen Emma, can you show us the clip, please? And I think we all know that if there's one thing that male sports fans want to see in their spaces and on their screens, it's more of me. Yes. Now, I love this so much. I love this so much because first of all, badass quote. Second, it applies perfectly. Why do you love it so much? Why? Why did you feel inclined to do this? Because I'm sure like you already mentioned, this is something that you've actually heard. Yeah. So I love the quote from Taylor because it was so tongue in cheek, obviously. And she's a very I think it was very revealing of someone who has a good sense of humor about themselves and awareness of the way that they can trigger some people and how silly it is and having fun with it. And I try to have the same attitude towards some of the reactions I evoke. I assume. Yeah. And I think that's what I aspire to. So hearing someone who's obviously on a much bigger stage, I think express the way a lot of us in a lot of women who work in my industry feel was pretty cool. And it was funny. But and, you know, I joke about it. And I know I started off by talking about like men on the Internet, but it's also like not indicative of most of the male sports fans I interact with in the wild who are like amazing and complimentary and come to my shows and listen to my podcast. Yeah. So there's kind of two sides of it. Right. Like joking about the angry ones on the Internet while also being aware that actually like most of them are pretty cool with it. And most of them give us great feedback. Now, one of the things all of your fans, including me, love about you is the very intelligent, very funny way you respond to certain men who share their problems seeing you on their screens. Some might even call it an exercise in fuck around and find out. Would you say that's a fair assessment? I was joking with you before. Like, I try to resist showing them or responding, I guess. And then eventually the demons on my shoulders outweigh the angels, because it's like a mixed bag. Right. Like, you don't want to give too much than what they're looking for. Yeah. Because also do they started it? Yeah. I think for me, though. And like, this is like sometimes because I get called D.I. probably a hundred times a day. Every now and then I'll respond. Not one. Yeah. No, I'm not going to lie and say it doesn't feel good. It does. But also I want all the other people who get called D.I. a hundred times a day to see it and to see that how stupid it is and how it's universal for all of us who are not, you know, who are minorities in these spaces. And I think sometimes the best way to conquer it is by making fun of it. So I do want kind of to show that. Well, also, I think that if you're going to be what I would describe as hateful, if you're going to use that as like a dig at someone, if you're going to be hateful because you couldn't do that, then sometimes you deserve to be smacked down. But in honor of Women's History Month, I actually thought we'd bring back our segment, Fuck Around and Find Out. And we'd take a look at a couple of times some Twitter bros, well, they fucked around and you promptly let them find out. So this first one, this first one's a classic. Some dumbass wrote, women shouldn't be allowed to talk sports. This D.I.Y. hire is brainless, clueless. Her takes are dog shit. To which you replied, D.I.Y. hire. That's a quote. That's a quote right there. Is this one of your favorites? I do like the ones where you don't actually even have to use your own words to clap back. You can just use theirs. So I will say I do enjoy that. I do enjoy that aspect of it. Do it yourself, indeed. I also have found on the Internet that it is often the case that the people who are most critical of other people for not having English as a first language, perhaps, or wanting to respect those who don't, often have the worst command of the English language itself. It just seems like that's like a circle, the Venn diagram. So I do enjoy that aspect of Twitter in particular. Next up, maybe one of my favorites. Someone said, at Mina Kimes, you are definitely gaining weight. And you replied, yeah, that's what happens when you're 38 weeks pregnant. It is, yeah. I mean, the fact, the craziest part about this is, is that it's not like, yeah, that's what happens when you're pregnant, or that's what happens when you're 20 weeks pregnant. You were 38 weeks pregnant. That's insane. That's pretty damn pregnant. Yeah. You know what? I actually worked, so I was working. I must have been on TV, because I think I induced, I worked the day before I induced. So, from home, from home. Like a true boss. I just, you know, waddled upstairs. That's what you do when you're 38 weeks pregnant. Plopped down in front of my, gave takes on, it was, it was. the NFL season. He was born during the NFL season. It was like week four. and then waddled downstairs went to the hospital and gave birth so i think i probably wrote that that week when i was truly out of to give um but i also kylie like uh didn't uh like announce or reveal i was pregnant i think until i was like in my late definitely in my third trimester so there was a while where i'm sure a lot of my colleagues were just like huh she's she's gained some weight yeah but they had this social wherewithal to not say that they would definitely not say you've gained weight on air also they probably noticed i was wearing like weird 90s style blazers a lot yeah number three this last tweet is a classic someone tweeted something i'm assuming you hear a lot can someone remind all of us how much football mina has played to which you expertly replied taken as many snaps in the league as you champ let me just first of all calling this individual champ well done thank you champ chief and boss are my three go-to's uh funny about the have you didn't play thing is like i so value the playing experience of my colleagues who are like bring such a different um i mean it's it obviously there's a million things that that enables them to bring to the studio show element but there's a lot of stuff i i truly can never speak on because of it um but they also understand that for those of us didn't play we can bring something different as well and so it's crazy to think that these men on the internet are like no i shouldn't listen to you and meanwhile i live with a guy who played in the league for 13 years pretty good player and he was he was fine but he he i always say is like he was always a very intellectual player and he loves your take so like that's that's the balance you're talking about here of like everybody else can sit down well i i this again very kind and i feel like i can't even look at the camera whenever we say that but um i do think there's something instructive in it for all of us because we all now have these exposure to uh opinions from more people than i think humans were ever supposed to hear from and it it's weird because the internet flattens those opinions with the opinions of the people we should be listening to right it's very easy for me to think that's so cool to hear that but also you know rich dolphins fan 69 told me that i'm the c word and should go back in the kitchen and in my my dumb brain and i think all of our brains kind of equalize those and we have to train them to not do that and that's hard it's hard right like we're not yes we're all now like restaurants on yelp it sucks it's a deep dark hole yeah well i would that's it for around and find out because if we kept going we'd be here forever if we really wanted to talk about all the times that you've expertly owned someone on the internet so well done thank you thank you for bringing back that segment it's been a while and we needed it thank you um now i am a big eagles fan yeah for a lot of reasons yeah and um we're really excited to have you on the show and we're really excited to have you on the show and we're really excited to have you on the show and um we're really we're kind of an eagles you on the show and we're really excited to have you on the show and we're really excited to have you on the show and um we're really we're kind of an eagles you on the show and we're really we're kind of an eagles podcast around here okay sometimes chiefs podcast around here okay sometimes chiefs podcast around here okay sometimes chiefs uncle trav go uncle trav um but i would just uncle trav go uncle trav um but i would just uncle trav go uncle trav um but i would just i would just like some insight on some birds i would just like some insight on some birds i would just like some insight on some birds questions um i have not caught much of the questions um i have not caught much of the questions um i have not caught much of the combine coverage so i'm going to start combine coverage so i'm going to start combine coverage so i'm going to start here here here what prospects have caught your attention what prospects have caught your attention what prospects have caught your attention keep in mind keep in mind keep in mind i'm going to send this straight to the i'm going to send this straight to the i'm going to send this straight to the eagles front office eagles front office eagles front office uh uh uh well first of all i am i'm married into an well first of all i am i'm married into an well first of all i am i'm married into an eagle's family so i don't know if you know eagle's family so i don't know if you know eagle's family so i don't know if you know that my smart woman in-laws insane terrifying like the insane terrifying like the insane terrifying like the wik callers the call is coming from wik callers the call is coming from wik callers the call is coming from inside the house here inside the house here inside the house here so much so like literally when some of so much so like literally when some of so much so like literally when some of the down times this season my mother-in-law the down times this season my mother-in-law the down times this season my mother-in-law when she came for christmas the when she came for christmas the when she came for christmas the first thing she said to me before first thing she said to me before first thing she said to me before where's my grandson was we're the shame where's my grandson was we're the shame of the nfl keep in mind the eagles were like eight and two at the time so that's yeah we were down on ourselves that's what i'm dealing with personally so i i know the plight i i'm very aware of it um a lot of really exciting players at the combine i actually just mentioned uh the oregon tight end kenyan sadiq who was like who broke the 40 record for tight ends which is insane um i thought would be a great eagle i don't know if he'll be there when you're picking i think it's 22 22 or 23 but um to me he would be an awesome awesome addition corner uh there's a couple corners who are exciting i think that's a position that was kind of much maligned the second corner spot in philadelphia so that's something but you know this from your household and from the fandom eagles love drafting in the trenches so we can talk about the corners and the receivers the tight ends but it seems like more often than not especially picking where they are i wouldn't be surprised if they go offensive or defensive line so i'll still watch football games and i watch the line first and so like someone will break out it's the right way to watch the game i it's fascinating to me um and so much so that like i always tell people when my husband was still playing he would it after like a tough game or he would he would have a good run or something like that and he would get in the car and he'd be like what'd you think and i'd be like that one poll was great but wow so do you that's so there's this great book about football for anyone who wants to learn about what's actually happening in the game it's basically like you know when you're watching the game take your eye off the ball and actually focus on the trenches and and it's really hard to learn how to watch football the way you're describing but if you do you can learn so much about what's actually happening in the game it's it's made me appreciate not only the offensive line but also um the running backs yes because the guys who um like uh lagarrette blunt and jay the speed at which they would cross the line of scrimmage yeah was they were like a mac truck you were not stopping them and so watching the o-line block and make a hole for them yeah and then seeing them hit that hole at the speed that they were was like i can't describe the feeling it was it was thrilling that's awesome um they they broadcast a few games with the camera i forgot sky cam they don't do it often where they would show it from behind and when they're we watch tape you see the all 22 view and then you see the uh the end zone view and i thought to myself if they just showed games this way peep are all offensive linemen would be celebrities because you actually see everything from when you're watching it from behind you can see everything that goes into like a seven yard counter run and why it's such a freaking miracle yep well back to the combine now that we've gone on a love affair of offensive line uh unlike you i'm i'm far from an expert on that uh i'm also far from an expert on that i'm an expert on parenting but i'm going to ask this anyway if there was some kind of parenting combine what would be your best event oh my best event um that's a great question so my son is two and a half right now and i'm really good at getting him to eat and it's all through the powers of distraction which is probably bad parenting because you probably great parenting you're supposed to like actually teach them to like i don't know i'm really good at like hey look over here boom salmon in your mouth love it at restaurants i can get him to eat a full plate of food i think distraction generally like you know being two and a half and i'd love your advice on just is he always going to be this way yes isn't that exciting what happened he used to be so chill yeah um i will say i've heard word on the street is that boys are different with energy at this age the energy is crazy yeah there's a number of times where we've been sitting on a saturday morning and my three older are sitting at the table coloring and i think to myself boys would never never no ever he's two and a half he walks into a room with a rest like a nice restaurant or you know a library and he literally you can see his eyes casing the window and he's like oh my god i'm so excited i'm so excited that i'm here i'm so excited that i'm here i'm so excited that i'm here i'm so excited that i'm here i'm so excited that i'm here i'm so excited that i'm here i'm so excited that i'm here i'm so excited that i'm here i'm so excited i am good at i'm not good at stopping that but i'm good at like when he is upset or he's like lock you know they lock in on stuff i'm good at like changing his being like hey look over here like how about this try this i'm good at coming up with alternatives which i realized with a two year old all your whole like 90 of my energy is just towards giving him the illusion of choice yes i know that thousand percent know that so i'm good at that i don't know that's a very good skill thank you that's a very good skill because sometimes i just let like let the the meltdown take over and i'm just like you know what you look like you need a minute just and i'm gonna give it to you just because live with this live in this moment i'm gonna let you have this and then we're gonna move on when you're done i need to be more comfortable with that i think like well you know at any given point with four kids in our house there's always at least one who's if not actively crying on the verge so i will say they are at a lovely age where like our third yesterday got upset and our second was like how can i help you oh my god and i was like that was cute that's incredible first of all cute second love that you said that that was very nice way to approach your sister and of course she proceeded to try and kick her in the face. that's that was we weren't focusing on that because that wasn't it's the intention you get it uh what was what would your worst event be oh my god um great question stopping the launch off of high places i can't physically restraint he's stronger than me yep yes like how is that even there i don't know what is it's like an ant where they can lift like a hundred times their body like i'll try to move him and i'm like what is happening here you like turn yourself into a brick somehow oh see mine go jello oh just like yep mine go jello and actually i'll go to pick them up and their arms actually i don't know how they do it but they like relax their rib cage and i can no longer it's weird right like it's funny i would say that my worst event would probably be getting them to eat their food really it's where my husband and i have like one of our one of our many parenting complimentary moments yeah of like where i'm like i made the food i don't know what you want me to do it's not disgusting you ate it last week and you ate the whole bowl and my husband's like well that looks delicious and he's good at tricking he still has patience yeah my husband makes the food so i think it's the there you go give him like an adult size plate and i'm and and he also will just be like ah he we tried i'm like he has to eat i have he has to eat that's food that's what jason does i'm like i'm like well you know what they'll eat when they're hungry and he's like no you'll eat what's on your plate yeah but i can be gentle about it and i'm like what's gonna happen yeah okay you do it complimentary parenting is such an underrated aspect of marriage like when you figure out you know it's like oh you're you have you have like you can beat zone and maybe you know it's just like it's oh yeah you don't know until it happens and and we have we it's crazy how you settle into your roles without even talking about it yes for sure you you definitely figure out on the run like on you're yes you're doing it on the fly you're figuring it out but once you settle in it's lovely because it really is there are times where i'm like i don't have a stitch of patience left in my body and jason's like i got this i'm like thank you so much because i was about to kick them out of the house this episode is sponsored by liquid ivy all throughout my life as an athlete and now as a mom wife and i guess podcaster i have a lot of days where i need to be on for an entire day like at the olympics when i was interviewing athletes all day and attending their games at night it was really taxing almost like an olympic sport if you will i'm lying that's a joke that's rage 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playlists on spotify book just for you based on who you are and how you listen live your story with coach learn more at coach.com now we can't do a proper eagles preview segment without asking the biggest question of them all what can you tell us about why dallas will be awful for another season first of all the way my mother-in-law talks about the cowboy i didn't realize this until i married into the family is how serious we are let me tell you it is equally like go birds and fuck dallas are the most they have to be the most common phrases also the perceived slights maybe that's the strongest quality of eagles fans is like the sensitivity to pursue but like we'll be watching a game with an announcer and she'll be mad because like chris collinsworth was like complimentary of dak prescott eight weeks ago on tv why are you talking to me don't get me started it's wild don't um dallas uh defense still very bad so not to pander let me tell you you let your mother-in-law know if she needs someone to talk some shit with about the birds you send her my way i there have been times where i speaking of wip there have been times where i have literally my dad has a an old school radio that he will bring out in our living room to play wip to listen to to mike quick and meryl reese call the game so that he can mute the television this is and the worst part about it is so my husband well you know uh mr joe buck is now a co-worker lovely lovely man delightful charming i'm still pissed about it he was like voldemort in our house when joe buck was going to call game you better get out the radio why are eagles fans so angry about announcers i don't think there's i've ever encountered a fan base they're biased mina i don't know they're out here talking up dak prescott and talking about how great the the dallas defense is doing against the eagles offense or just over here living in reality while they're living in delusion and you you know it just it gets under your skin it's like y'all y'all been doing this for a long time and you're not doing it for a long time and you're not doing it for a long time and you're not doing it for a long time and you're not doing it for a long time to so many super bowls last 10 years like you're so successful the t i just don't understand this well of anger and resentment when you have so much success no no always we we could literally we could have the chiefs super bowl record in the last 10 years and we would still be pissed we'd still be pissed some would argue that's how you can tell the true great ones can they find the chip on their shoulder when it shouldn't exist it's a skill yeah brady was famously very good at this tom brady would be you know even when he won multiple super bowls and was he'd still be like oh this guy said a negative thing about me eight years ago on a tv show and you know whatever yes i mean speaking of tom brady he lost that super he did he did lose that yeah i will tell you the number of times i said 4133 in san francisco this year because pats fans were just being Pats fans. And I was like, "No, guys, we're good." We're good. 41-33. Scoreboard. Do any Patriots fans listen to this podcast, do you think? Definitely. And to them, I say, 41-33. Yep. Sorry, guys. Can't help myself. Now, I'd love to talk to you even more about motherhood. We'll shift gears. Because you are constantly posting very funny stuff about it. One of my favorite posts of yours was when you shared the scouting report of your son when he was seven months old. Queen Emma, we have the clip, I think. He is 94th percentile size. He is a little over seven months. I think he weighs over maybe 25 pounds now. He's got, as you've seen, enormous, enormous legs. Haunches, really. So those are the strengths, I would say. He's somewhat coachable. Sleep training took about two weeks. And mostly stocked. There's been a couple of regressions. This is perfect. This is so good. Now, this was when he was seven months old. You said yourself he's two and a half now. So how are we feeling about that scouting report? Is it holding up? It holds up. The coachability, maybe not so much. This is what every team wrestles with at the Combine, right? Like, what are the intangibles? Can we get him to follow directions? How does he take to it? I've learned, since learned, and this would be, by the way, for NFL teams, this is, like, the worst possible thing you can be. He's, like, an independent thinker. Sure. Don't love that. He's very, just like, I'm going to do things my way. He slimmed down a little bit, though, I will say. Because when he was born, he was very big. Part of the reason I induced was he was trending so big. My doctor was like, if it were me, it was a woman. And I was like, I'm going to listen to you. Whatever you say after that, I'm doing it. I was like, you know what? I'm not looking to push out. I was gigantic. I was over nine pounds as a baby. So they say that's the most. So did you do the extra size scan at, like, 32 weeks or something? Yes. All the size scans. And it was like, that's what I was like, all right. You know, I'm not trying to do what, see what happens. But so when I first, he was very big at first. And I remember showing his picture to Jeff Saturday, who is another legendary center who works at ESPN, former. And the first thing he said when he, when he saw the picture of my son was Lena put that boy's hand in the dirt immediately, which means he thought he should play in the offensive line, but he slimmed out a little bit. And I think that that's what happens, right? They kind of, when they start walking, they get upright and start walking. And all of a sudden the muscle starts forming a little bit more in the chub. The chub goes away now. And I'm just looking at the pictures of his legs from when he was a baby. I just want to grab them. And you want to squeeze them again, our youngest, like I said, she's about to be a year old at the end of March. She is currently wearing. 18. To 24 month clothing. And not super thick, sadly enough, because I do love, I love fat baby thighs. I love chunky baby thighs so much. But she is not super thick. She's just long as can be. So. I do know about some ridiculous percentiles. All babies are easy to like, when my friends have tall toddlers, I'm like, well, I'm like, dang it. They, they, they, they, they. weight distribution makes them easy to carry. My son is like a chicken nugget. Like he's just dense. And I think that like, that's, I know I was talking about how I got like, literally when I lift him up compared to, even if it's a toddler who weighs the same, but is longer, I find them easier to hold. It's so funny when you say dense, because our second is dense and has been dense since the minute she came out, they weighed her on the little, uh, like newborn bassinet three different times. The third times they removed the third time they removed all the blankets because we were all like, there's no way she's that heavy. How heavy was she? She was only eight pounds, 13 ounces, I think, but she looked, she looked smaller than our first. And our first was like eight, six or something. And it was just one of those moments where you're like, there's no way she's that heavy. She's been dense her whole life. Now you drop her. It sounds like if she falls off the back of the couch, she did it just last night. It sounds like a grown man hit the floor. It is insane. It's insane. She will be, she will be our toughest athlete. I would think I'd also like to talk about some of the more humbling or overly honest things that my girls have said to me. Oh God. Um, I'm wondering if your son has said anything that we would classify as overly honest. I'll give you an example. Um, I not so recently have been told, well, I mean, it wasn't real. Uh, I was getting dressed and one of my children said, that's nice. Your stomach is squishy. I said, thank you so much. That's really kind of you. Um, there was another time where my child said, dad's boobs are big, but your boobs are tall. So do with that what you will take it out. Both of you with one swing, by the way, two birds, one stone, and that's many. Oh God. Um, he, my, my husband taught him how to do this, which is kind. He says, mama farted. Oh, sometimes we'll be out in public and like my shoe will squeak and he'll be like, attention. She farted and everyone looks and I'm like, I didn't, it was my show. It's not what happened. Why are you blowing up my spot? Yeah. Why do you have to announce that to the world? That would be the worst thing he does to me right now. It's nice to know that at two and a half, he's, he's just going full go on it because I do think that we were a farts or funny household in some households. I grew up finding out are not a farts or funny household. That's not the life we were meant to live. So we have a lot of like, like someone will fart, a child will fart in one room and say, dad did it. They did that yesterday. Dad's not even in the state. He's not even in the same state. And they're out here trying to blame dad for farts. He knows it's funny. Cause he says it. And then he laughs like a little like demon laugh to him. Sure. Yeah. I love that so much. Um, well, I do also want to bring up, uh, you said it's cool that my son and millions of other sons are turning on the TV and I, and think it's normal for a woman to be talking about football behind a desk. This is, I find to be so important. So we go from farts are funny to how important this, this comment is because it's, I always talk to people and I'm going to tell you the same thing, raising four girls. It is so special to get to talk to women like yourself who have become experts and have put themselves in a position to be an outstanding role model for the four girls that we are raising. Knowing that they can look at what you're doing and understand that if they want to grow up and be intelligent, beautiful women who talk about football, that they can do that because you're showing them that that is the world that they get to grow up and that you have paved the way and that they can do what you've done. So that is so special. And I appreciate that you are that role model, but for you to bring up that sons are also doing the same thing is so special. Because shouldn't that be how we're raising boys? I hope so. And first of all, it's very sweet of you to say that about your daughters. And, you know, people always ask me, did you want to do what you do growing up? And I always say no, because it never even occurred to me that it was a thing I could do. So I really hope girls see us on TV and all of the women who work in NFL media right now. And it just even occurs to them as a possibility is something that's really meaningful to me. But as far as boys who already knew it was a possibility, you know, I just think that it's nice to see it normalized. And we started off by talking about how important it is to have the support and both behind the scenes, but I would also say on camera of my male colleagues, because when, you know, a young boy turns on ESPN, he doesn't just see me talking about football. He sees men listening. And I think that is as powerful as anything I'll say. And it's something that I think not just in sports, but to have that modeled in all walks of public life for young men is really, really, really, really helpful, the image of it alone. So I'm so grateful to my colleagues for doing that for me, because I think it is so impactful in ways maybe they don't even appreciate. That's really special. It's so, that's such a great point to know that that image of you sitting on a panel of your peers, and you guys showing each other the mutual respect of listening to the points and having a pointed conversation is an example that really everyone should be able to enjoy and get something from. Thank you so much for coming on today. I really appreciate it. Make sure you subscribe to The Mina Kime Show featuring Lenny and watch her where she rightfully belongs all over your screens on ESPN. Thank you so much. It's a ton of fun. And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. 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