Kylie on WORST Things To Say To Women, Uncle Trav's Otters & Baby Scouting Report w/ Mina Kimes | Ep. 58

Being a person is tough enough these days, let alone being a parent. That's why I use DoorDash. Because when life gets crazy, DoorDash just helps bring some order to it. Like this past week, when yet again, we ran out of whole milk. And you know, Finn needs whole milk. Because? Well, she's a tank, and she'll get mad at me. And she figured out how to yell now, so she'll let me have it. I'd rather just get the milk. And DoorDash helped with that. Came in clutch. Real life needs real relief. That's why DoorDash is there for whatever you need, whenever you need it. Life with kids is wildly unpredictable. No matter how much parents try to plan, there's always going to be chaos. Being able to offload a few to-dos and give a little more time to focus on yourself and your family is huge. We all know life gets crazy. DoorDash just helps bring a little order to it. Order now. Not gonna lie, when Benny thinks I'm going too fast in the car, she tells me. And when I tell her I'm not going too fast, she says, Oh. You're going the speediest. Speed lemon? She means speed limit. Sometimes she says lemon speed. And that takes me a little longer to get to the final destination. Let's get this podcast started. Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original brought to you by Yasso. Ridiculously better. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. I'm tuning in to the Paralympics because you should be too. Let's cheer on Team USA. I'm still learning how to say, can I pet your dog in Italian? I did ask while I was there using Google Translate if it's appropriate to ask Italians to pet their dogs. I was not discouraged. And I'm the mother of another birthday girl. That's right. This week, Elliot Ray Kelsey turns a whole hand. That's so sad. That's so sad. It's also today. The day that we're. We're recording. It's March 3rd. It is Ellie's fifth birthday. There were some presents on the table today. She got a chair that she can sit inside of. Don't ask questions. That's ridiculous. She likes to be cuddled. And the chair is now a backup. She did pick her cake. She shares a birthday with my dad. And I do think that she picked the cake based on my dad, which is so Ellie coded. She wants a chocolate cake with Bugs Bunny holding a carrot on top of it. And Bugs Bunny is one of my dad's favorite characters. And they haven't talked about it in quite some time, but that's what she picked. And I really think that it's because she wanted my dad to be excited about the cake. She's so sweet. I can't believe she's five. It really. It messes me up. Coming up on today's episode, the return of You Know What's Fucked Up in honor of a certain social phenomenon. I've decided to take upon myself. to shut down in honor of women everywhere. Happy Women's History Month, indeed. Then, in Doom Scroll of the Week, some more of my hottest pacifier takes since the real ones enjoyed them so much last week. After that, I'm going to be joined by ESPN NFL analyst, fellow mom, Jason's co-worker, all-around badass woman in sports, and someone, you guessed it, I have no business speaking to, Mina Kimes. But before we get into all that, let's get our real one. Mention of the week. This week, we are otterly honored. Queen Emma's in on the puns today. What are you doing? What are you doing? This is silly. To get a shout-out from some real ones at the Philly Zoo who shared photo updates on the otter the girls and I adopted for Uncle Trav. Let's see what it is. Not gonna lie, our giant river otters are still screeching with excitement over their new. new zoo parent, Uncle Trav. And we learned that Uncle Trav is actually the zoo parent to three otters. We met Thor. I don't know if we met the other ones. I didn't know that we met Thor. We th- we met Thor. They're so loud, it's impressive. What do you mean you don't remember if we met Thor? I don't remember Thor's name, but that's fucked up for me. We met Thor. We met Thor because Thor has a thunderbolt on his chest. Isn't Thor the. Or the, um, lightning something or other? Yeah. I'm really clued in, guys. Is that Marvel? Marvel characters. That's not a Marvel character. Thor's not a Marvel character. Thor's a Marl- Marvel character. Jesus Christ. Queen Emma wants us to do a collab with the Otter. The Otter Podcast. A.k.a. The Other Podcast. But I just feel like that would be a dumpster fire. We'll see how it goes. If any real ones want to support the Philadelphia Zoo, you can adopt all sorts of animals with a donation. Yeah, you should do that. Moving on, it's time for the return of my favorite segment. You know what's fucked up? Hey, you know what's fucked up? Assuming a woman is pregnant or trying to get pregnant when she simply declines a drink. Oh my gosh. I. Hmm. This happens to me all the time, okay? When I say all the time, I mean all the time. I've been on record multiple times informing the real ones that I do in fact not usually drink. I don't usually do it. I do not. I just don't like it that much. I think water or iced tea or a crispy Coke. They're all better. Let me go even further. Worse than that is commenting to her face. In response to her declining a beverage. I may or may not have recently had someone offer me a beverage. And when I said, "Oh, no, thank you." They said, "Are you pregnant?" I'm not joking. Now, to be fair, you picked the right bitch. Because I actually, I can brush it off pretty fast. But let's not do that. Because we've said it so many times on this show. You never know what someone is going through. What they have gone through previously. What stage they are at in their journey. If they are building a family. In other words, they could be trying. And you could be bringing something up that's not really good. Or even weirder, think about this. You could be saying it to someone who has actively chosen to not have kids. Which is also none of your business. You know what I mean? As always, I'm speaking for myself and my own experiences. But I do think most women would agree. Maybe we just shouldn't do that. Because in the same way that if someone looks like, "Huh, maybe they could be pregnant." We don't then ask, "Are you pregnant?" Don't do that. We're not smirking at people. Just because you didn't ask the question doesn't mean that your smirk or raising your eyebrows is better than that. That's equally bad. It's almost worse. Because now, do I address you doing that? And if I do address you doing that, does it seem like I'm being defensive? You're making it weird. And you've put us both in this situation now. And that's not fun for anyone. So. This is similar to when people. When Jason and I first got married, and people would ask, "Are you trying?" And I would say, "We practice a lot." Now it's weird for both of us. Why do you need to know that? That's between me and my husband. No. What should you do instead, you may ask? Here's a few options, okay? Offer her something else to drink. And then move on. Or. Don't offer her something else to drink. And move on. Another option. Mind your business. This is one of my favorite options. Again, you picked the right person. I'm actually not super bothered by it. Would I have preferred if you had not looked at my stomach and then looked me back in my own eyeballs? Yeah. I would have preferred that. But. At the end of the day, let's go over some scenarios. Some people could have had a loss. Some people could be actively in IVF treatments. Some people could have a diagnosis that could make it physically not possible for them to have kids even though they would like to. Some people might have addiction to alcohol and be in recovery. Some people might just not like the fucking taste. That's me. I just don't like the taste of it. There are so many reasons. I could keep going. I'm not going to because I feel you get my point now. If you have something that you have said in response to an inquiry about maybe a pregnancy status and/or why you do or don't drink, feel free to drop it in our DMs or in our comments @NGLwithKylie. I'm very curious to know what are some good ones that we can unleash. And that's it for You Know What's Fucked Up. Next, let's get to Do and Scroll of the Week by Intuit TurboTax. Now, this is taxes. First up on Doom Scroll, I guess my algorithm heard my comments on Benny and her pacifiers last week, because now I'm getting lots of suggestions on how to kick the habit. Queen Emma, the clip, please. The caption says, he's not a baby anymore. The moment he said goodbye to his pacifier truly went down in history. They attached a whole wad of balloons to the end of this pacifier and let it fly up into the air. Oh, he's waving to it. Oh no. Okay. All of these methods are lovely. Okay. I love the idea of making it some type of beautiful moment. You want to send it away with some balloons? Beautiful. You want to box it up and, and send it to kids who need pacifiers? Beautiful. You want to plant it in the garden and grow a couple cake pops? Beautiful. Um, I'm going to tell you right now, that's all fun and games until they get pissed. Or tired. And there's no PASI. Okay. We've been there. I'm going to tell you how I got Wyatt. It was irresponsible as a parent because it only created, you guessed it, more responsibility for us as the parents. Um, we went to the store. I still can't believe we did this. We went to the store and we exchanged her PASI. We went to the store and we exchanged her PASI for a fish named PASI. Yep. Here's the deal. I don't recommend. I don't. Because like I said, we then acquired the responsibility of taking care of a fish, which, oh God, this is such a bad confession. Did the fish die because they may or may not have dropped a marker in the tank? And I shouldn't laugh, that poor fish. They were constantly trying to give, they were constantly trying to give the fish things. And it turns out that PASI actually couldn't receive things because PASI was a fish. And I say was because that marker took PASI to her grave. We had to have a whole conversation about fish heaven. Maybe keep yourself, let's not, let's not exchange pacifiers for a more difficult conversation. Don't do what I did. Are we getting another fish when Benny has to get rid of this PASI? Fuck no. Okay. We might try the method of like snip the ends of it. If you snip the ends, it doesn't quite give the same satisfaction and you slowly snip away at it. Like I said, one of these days we're going to be done with a PASI. And when will we do that? When we're fucking good and ready. Leave us alone. Last scroll. As the real ones know by now, the best part of TikTok is the comment section. And I, I can't even begin. To explain how quickly. I mean, Olympic gold medal sprint, if you will. To the comments for this one. Uh, Queen Emma, can you play the clip please? Because good God. Anybody seen ketchup before I have to ask my wife. For my audio listeners. He's asking if anyone has seen the ketchup and he is scanning his fridge. He goes, down the door. Once he goes to the middle of the back to the like inside of the fridge. And then he goes back to the door. Okay. Of course my ass clock, the ketchup. That's easy. Next question. I don't, you, I don't know if I've addressed this on here, but I did address it in my vows. And let me tell you what my husband needs from me. I can guarantee that he will always need me to find things for him. That is part of our relationship. It's part of our love language. He knows that it excites my soul. When he says, have you seen my truck keys? It excites me because you're fucking right. I have. And I clocked it. I feel very strongly about this. Anyway, I have to go to the comments. You have to, you rush, you rush, you run. This person said, no, go ask your wife and bring us with you. And it is a face. I'm someone who is trying their very best not to laugh. Okay. Outstanding. The next person said, yes, all the women saw it in eight seconds. And I think that eight seconds is generous. Honestly. Um, this last one was the comment that got me. This was the one where I was like, Emma, put it in the rundown. The person said, you want the hunts or the Heinz? Guys, in case you didn't realize there are two catch-ups. First of all, it is absolutely, I would just like to say bat shit crazy to have two brands of ketchup in your fridge. I just want to throw that out there as someone who is a strict condiment household strict. Okay. You will not be able to get rid of that. You will not. I'm so sorry to do this. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say the brand. You will not catch me with hunts ketchup in my fridge. You will not. It will never be. There will be Heinz ketchup in my fridge. Okay. My six-year-old would sniff that shit out so fast and then laugh in my face for trying to serve it to her. Okay. Absolutely not. Hell to the no. It's going to be French's yellow mustard every time. Literally every time. And Hellman's mayonnaise. Don't argue with me. Don't fucking come in my comments with Duke's. I swear to God. I'm not even a mayo person. I will go to the pits of fucking hell on this discussion. I'm not having it with you. I'm not. I clocked the Heinz the second it entered the screen. The hunts I saw on the second scan of the fridge. Because it's not my brand. It's not my brand. My eyes needed, my eyes were looking for the Heinz because I thought this gentleman, he's doing the right thing. He's coming to us before he goes to his wife. How kind. He knows what's up. He has to be a Heinz man. 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DoorDash helps bring a little order to it. Like literally yesterday, when we were prepping for birthday celebrations and I needed to get some balloons, I DoorDashed it. Because that's what I needed. And I wasn't going to put everyone in the car to go out and get a bag of balloons, because it was supposed to be a surprise. Now, I have candles left over from Benny's birthday, but I may or may not have DoorDash those candles too. Whatever. Work, life, stress, and multitasking constantly is just the daily routine when you have kids. Being able to offload a few of those to-dos so you can get a little more time to focus on yourself and your family is huge. When life happens, DoorDash is there. When the chaos of life hits, DoorDash will be there. She's an Emmy-winning NFL analyst for ESPN and one of the best in the business, period. She's also an award-winning journalist and writer, the host of the Mina Kimes show featuring Lenny. She's a fellow mom, Jason's coworker. We'll get into that. And now she's officially not gonna lie. Mina Kimes, welcome to the show. Hello, thank you so much for having me. This is so exciting. Oh, I'm so excited. I have been a huge fan of you ahead of my husband working for ESPN. And more importantly, the way my husband speaks about you and your knowledge and the way that you break down the game. And it is, he speaks extremely highly of you, which only made me more invested in anything you had to say. But speaking of my husband, he's been your coworker at ESPN now for two NFL seasons. So I have to ask, who's the most difficult person on the desk and why is it my husband? It's absolutely not him. Damn it. Unfortunately, like so far down on the diva ranking in sports media. I know you hate to hear it. I wish I had an embarrassing story or, and I, or even like a secondhand story. And sadly it's all rave reviews and I'll embarrass him for a second. You know, I don't know him super well, but I'm sure he's a great guy. I'm sure he's a great guy. But in our interactions, because my show is on Monday night football, he's on Monday night countdown. We're on before that. So he works with a couple of guys on my show who adore him as well. Ryan Clark and Marcus Spears. So we are all on the road in the same cities every Monday. And people always ask me two questions. I'll bring up. One is, you know, what's it like dealing with so much crap from men because your job. And the first thing I always say is it's on the internet. It is not like that actually with my colleagues or even people in the NFL. It's been an amazing experience. They are. They're so supportive. So cool. It's entirely external. And then the other thing people say is, well, how can men help women? Because there aren't that many of us, particularly ones who do my job. And I think your husband is an extremely great example of how you do that, which is just by being freaking normal. Like asking, like just engaging in like normal football conversations with me. And it is not about like being a, you know, weird performative ally. It's the things you don't see. It's if I make a comment, about something I see in a game and he will remember it weeks later and bring it up, which sounds so small. But those are the things that actually, I feel like I'm embarrassing you, transitive property here. But those are the things that actually help. He has been awesome in that regard. And many of my coworkers are equally awesome. Oh, that's honestly, it's lovely here. We love to joke around around here, but I know how much he has loved working with everyone that you guys have on Monday nights. So it is nice. I'm sure he would be blushing and telling you now, but it's lovely to hear about him in such a nice way. Now, have you been surprised by any outfit or stunt that he's done at this point? Not really. Actually the instrument thing, well, that was the beginning of the season, right? When they were in the band. Yes. I didn't know he had that. That one even shocked me. Yeah, that was amazing. Our girls saw him and were like, "Hmm, what's dad doing?" And I was like, "Hmm, playing the saxophone apparently tonight." Who knew? I loved that. That was, I think Baltimore, if I remember correctly. Yes, I believe so. That was a great bit. But it was not surprising, no, because I feel like it would take a lot at this point. Okay, I'll tell him to up his game so that he can surprise you. Now, this is not my first time singing your praises on the show. I don't know. I don't know if you saw this, but when Taylor's quote from the other podcast, we call that the other podcast, went viral, we played your TikTok using the sound Queen Emma. Can you show us the clip, please? And I think we all know that if there's one thing that male sports fans wanna see in their spaces and on their screens, it's more of me. Yes. Now, I love this so much. I love this so much because first of all, badass quote. Second, it applies perfectly. Why do you love it so much? Why did you feel inclined to do this? Because I'm sure, like you already mentioned, this is something that you've actually heard? Yeah, so I love the quote from Taylor 'cause it was so tongue-in-cheek, obviously, and she's a very, I think it was very revealing of someone who has a good sense of humor about themselves and awareness of the way that they can trigger some people and how silly it is and having fun with it. And I try. I try to have the same attitude towards some of the reactions I evoke. I aspire to. So hearing someone who's obviously on a much bigger stage, I think, express the way a lot of us in, a lot of us women who work in my industry feel was pretty cool and it was funny. But, and, you know, I joke about it. And I know I started off by talking about like men on the internet, but it's also like not indicative of most of the male sports fans I interact with in the wild who are like, "Amazing and complimentary and come to my shows "and listen to my podcast." So there's kind of two sides of it, right? Like joking about the angry ones on the internet while also being aware that actually like most of them are pretty cool with it. And most of them give us great feedback. - Now, one of the things all of your fans, including me, love about you is the very intelligent, very funny way you respond to certain men who share their problems seeing you on their screens. Some might even call it an exercise in fuck around and find out. Would you say that's a fair assessment? - I feel like I was joking with you before. Like I try to resist showing them or responding, I guess. And then eventually the demons on my shoulders outweigh the angels because it's like a mixed bag, right? Like you don't want to give too much. - Them what they're looking for. - Yeah, 'cause most of them do want to give. - But also they started it. - Yeah. - I think for me, for me though, and like this is like sometimes, 'cause I get called DEI probably a hundred times a day. Every now and then I'll respond, not one. Yeah, no, I'm not gonna lie and say it doesn't feel good. It does. But also I want all the other people who get called DEI a hundred times a day to see it and to see that how stupid it is and how it's universal for all of us who are not, you know, who are minorities in these spaces. And I think sometimes the best way to conquer it is by making fun of it. So I do want kind of to show that to people how silly it is. - Well, also, I think that if you're going to be what I would describe as hateful, if you're gonna use that as like a dig at someone, if you're gonna be hateful because you couldn't do that, then sometimes you deserve to be smacked down. But in honor of Women's History Month, I actually thought we'd bring back our segment, Fuck Around and Find Out. And we'd take a look at a couple of times, some Twitter bros, well, they fucked around and you promptly let them find out. So this first one, this first one's a classic. Some dumbass wrote, "Women shouldn't be allowed to talk sports. This DIY hire is brainless, clueless. Her takes are dog shit." To which you replied, "DIY hire." That's a quote. That's a quote right there. Is this one of your favorites? - I do like the ones where you don't actually even have to use your own words. To clap back, you can just use theirs. So I will say I do enjoy that aspect of it. Do it yourself indeed. I also have found on the internet that it is often the case that the people who are most critical of other people for not having English as a first language perhaps, or wanting to respect those who don't, often have the worst command of the English language itself. It just seems like that's like a circle, the Venn diagram. - Yeah. - So I do enjoy that. - I do enjoy that aspect of Twitter in particular. - Next up, maybe one of my favorites. Someone said, @meenakimes, "You are definitely gaining weight." And you replied, "Yeah, that's what happens when you're 38 weeks pregnant." - It is, yeah. Strange but true. - I mean, the fact, the craziest part about this is, is that it's not like, "Yeah, that's what happens when you're pregnant," or, "That's what happens "when you're 20 weeks pregnant." You were 38 weeks pregnant. - Yeah. - That's insane. - That's pretty damn pregnant, yeah. You know what? I actually worked, so I was working. I was on, I must have been on T, 'cause I think I induced, I worked the day before I induced. So, from home, from home. - Like a true boss. - So I just, you know, waddled upstairs. That's what you do when you're 38 weeks pregnant. I did plop down in front of my. Gave takes on, it was the NFL season. He was born during the NFL season. It was like week four. And then waddled downstairs, went to the hospital and gave birth. So I think I probably wrote that that week when I was truly out of fucks to give. But I also, Kylie, didn't announce or reveal I was pregnant. I think until I was like in my late, definitely in my third trimester. So there was a while where I'm sure a lot of my colleagues were just like, huh, she's gained some weight. Yeah, but they had this social wherewithal to not say it out loud. Yes, they would definitely not say you've gained weight on air. Also, they probably noticed I was wearing like weird 90s style blazers a lot. Yeah. Number three, this last tweet is a classic. Someone tweeted something I'm assuming you hear a lot. Can someone remind all of us how much football Mina has played? To which you expertly replied, taken as many snaps in the league as you, champ. Let me just, first of all, calling this individual champ. Well done. Thank you. Champ, chief and boss are my three go-tos. The have you didn't play thing is like I so value the playing experience of my colleagues who are like bring such a different. I mean, it's obviously there's a million things that that enables them to bring to the studio show element. But there's a lot of stuff I truly can never speak on because of it. But they also understand that for those of us didn't play, we can bring something different as well. And so it's crazy to think that these men on the Internet are like, no, I shouldn't listen to you. And meanwhile, I live with a guy who played in the league for 13 years, pretty good player. And he was he was fine, but he he I always say is like he was always a very intellectual player and he loves your take. So like that's that's the balance you're talking about here of like everybody else can sit. Down. Well, again, very kind. And I feel like I can't even look at the camera when we say that. But I do think there's something instructive in it for all of us because we all now have these exposure to opinions from more people than I think humans were ever supposed to hear from. And it's weird because the Internet flattens those opinions with the opinions of the people we should be listening to. Right. It's very easy for me to think that's so cool to hear that. But also, you know, rich dolphins fan. Sixty nine told me that I'm the C word and should go back in the kitchen and in my my dumb brain. And I think all of our brains kind of equalize those and we have to train them to not do that and not give them any word. It's hard, right? Like we're not. Yes, we're all now like restaurants on Yelp. It's like it's a deep, dark hole. Yeah. Well, I would that's it for fuck around and find out, because if we kept going, we'd be here forever if we really wanted to talk about all the times that you've expertly owned someone on the Internet. So well done. Thank you. Thank you for bringing back that segment. It's been a while and we needed it. Thank you. Now, I am a big Eagles fan. Yeah. For a lot of reasons. Yeah. And we're really we're kind of an Eagles podcast around here. OK. Sometimes Chiefs Uncle Trav go, Uncle Trav. But I would just I would just like some insight on some birds questions. Um, I have not caught much of the combine coverage, so I'm going to start here. What prospects have caught your attention? Keep in mind, I'm going to send this straight to the Eagles for an offer. Well, first of all, I am I married into an Eagles family, so I don't know if you know that my smart woman in-laws insane, terrifying, like the WIP callers that the call is coming from inside the house here. So much so, like literally when some of the downtimes this season, my mother in law, when she came for Christmas, the first thing she said to me before, where's my grandson was, we're the shame of the NFL. Keep in mind, the Eagles were like eight and two at the time. So that we were down on ourselves. That's what I'm dealing with personally. So I know the plight. I'm very aware of it. A lot of really exciting players at the combine. I actually just mentioned the Oregon tight end Kenyan Sadiq, who was like who broke the 40 record for tight ends, which is. Insane. I thought would be a great Eagle. I don't know if he'll be there when you're picking. I think it's 22, 22 or 23, but to me, he would be an awesome, awesome addition. Corner. There's a couple of corners who are exciting. I think that's a position that was kind of much maligned. The second corner spot in Philadelphia. So that's something, but you know, this from your household and from the fandom Eagles love drafting in the trenches. So we can talk about the corners and the receivers, the tight ends, but it seems like more often. They're not especially picking where they are. I wouldn't be surprised if they go offensive or defensive line. So I'll still watch football games and I watched the line first. And so like someone will break out. It's the right way to watch the game. I, it's fascinating to me. Um, and so much so that like, I always tell people when my husband was still playing, he would it after like a tough game or he would, he would have a good run or something like that. And he would get in the car and he'd be like, what'd you think? I'd be like, that one poll was great. But wow. So do you, that's so there's this great book about football for anyone who wants to learn about the game called take your eye off the ball. That's basically like, you know, when you're watching the game, take your eye off the ball and actually focus on the trenches. And, and it's a really hard to learn how to watch football the way you're describing, but if you do, you can learn so much about what's actually happening in the game. It's, it's made me appreciate not only the offensive line, but also, um, the running backs. Yes. And I think that's, that's a really good point. I think that's a really good point. love that you said that that was very nice way to approach your sister and of course she proceeded to try and kick her in the face that's that was we weren't focusing on that because that wasn't it's the intention you get it uh what was what would your worst event be oh my god um great question stopping the launch off of high places i can't physically restrain he's stronger than me yep yes like how is that even there i don't know what is it's like an ant where they can lift like a hundred times their body like i'll try to move him and i'm like what is happening here you like turned yourself into a brick somehow oh see mine go jello oh just like yep mine go jello and actually i'll go to pick them up and their arms actually i don't know how they do it but they like relax their rib cage and i can no longer it's weird right you like it's funny i would say that my worst event would probably be getting them to eat their food really it's where my husband and i have like one of our one of our many parenting complimentary moments yeah of like where i'm like i made the food i don't know what you want me to do it's not disgusting you ate it last week and you ate the whole bowl and my husband's like well that looks delicious and he's good at tricking he still has patience yeah my husband makes the food so i think it's the and there you go give him like a adult size plate and i'm like ambitious um and he and he also will just be like ah he we tried i'm like he has to eat i have he has to eat that's that's what jason does i'm like i'm like well you know what they'll eat when they're hungry and he's like no you'll eat what's on your plate yeah but i can be gentle about it and i'm like what's gonna happen okay you do it complimentary parenting is such an underrated aspect of marriage like when you figure out you know it's like oh you're you have we have like you can beat press but i can beat zone and maybe you know it's just like it's oh yeah 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little more time to focus on yourself and your family is huge we all know life gets crazy doordash just helps bring a little order to it order now now we can't do a proper eagles preview segment without asking the biggest question of them all what can you tell us about why will be awful for another season first of all the way my mother-in-law talks about the cowboy i didn't realize this until i married into the family is how serious we are let me tell you it is equally like go birds and fuck dallas are the most they have to be the most common phrases also the perceived slights maybe that's the strongest quality of eagles fans is like the most common phrase to perceive but like we'll be watching a game with an announcer and she'll be mad because like chris collinsworth was like complimentary of dak prescott eight weeks ago why are you talking don't get me started it's wild don't um dallas uh defense still very bad so not to pander let me tell you you let your mother-in-law know if she needs someone to talk some shit with about the birds you send her my way i there have been times when i've been talking to my mother-in-law a couple times where i speaking of w.i.p there have been times where i have literally my dad has a an old school radio that he will bring out in our living room to play w.i.p to listen to to mike quick and meryl reese call the game so that he can mute the television this is and the worst part about it is so my husband well you know uh mr joe buck is now a co-worker lovely lovely man delightful charming i'm still pissed about it he was like voldemort in our house when joe buck was going to call game you better get out the radio why are eagles fans so angry about announcers i don't think there's i've ever encountered a fan they're biased mina i don't know they're out here talking up dak prescott and talking about how great the the dallas defense is doing against the eagles offense or just over here living in reality while they're living in delusion and you you know it just it gets under your skin it's like y'all have a lot y'all been to so many superbowls last 10 years like you're so successful the t i just don't understand this well of anger and resentment when you have so much success no no always we we could literally we could have the chiefs superbowl record in the last 10 years and we would still be pissed somewhat argued that's how you can tell the true great ones is can they find the chip on their shoulder when it shouldn't exist it's a skill yeah brady was famously very good at this tom brady would be you know even when he won multiple superbowls and was he'd still be like oh this guy said a negative thing about me eight years ago on a tv show and you know whatever yes i mean speaking of tom brady he lost that superbowl speaking of tom brady he did he did lose that yeah i will tell you the number number of times I said 41 33 in San Francisco this year because Pat's fans were just being Pat's fans and I was like no guys we're good we're good 41 33 scoreboard do any Patriots fans listen to this podcast do you think I definitely and to them I say 41 33 yep sorry can't help myself uh now i'd love to talk to you even more about motherhood we'll shift gears because you are constantly posting very funny stuff about it uh one of my favorite posts of yours was when you shared the scouting report of your son when he was seven months old queen emma we have the clip i think he is in the 94th percentile size he is a little over seven months i think he weighs over maybe 25 pounds now he's got as you seen enormous enormous legs haunches really um so those are the strengths i would say uh he's somewhat coachable sleep training took about two weeks and it mostly stopped there's been a couple of regressions this is perfect this is so good now this was when he was seven months old you said yourself he's two and a half now so so how are we feeling about that scouting report is a holding up it holds up the coachability maybe not so much this is what every team wrestles with the combine right like what are the intangibles can we get him to follow directions is how does he take to it um he's i've learned since learned and this would be by the way for nfl teams this is like the worst possible thing you can be he's like an independent thinker sure he's very just like i'm gonna do things my way he he's slimmed down a little bit though i will say when he was he was very big part of the reason i induced was he was trending so big um my doctor was like if it were me it was a woman i was like i'm gonna listen to you whatever you say after that i'm doing it i was like you know what i'm not i'm not looking to push out and and i i was gigantic i was nine over nine pounds as a baby so they say that so did you do the extra size scan at like 32 weeks or something yes all that all the size scans and it was like that's where i was like all right you know i don't i'm not trying to do what see what happens um but so when i he was very big at first and i remember uh showing his picture to jeff saturday who is uh another uh legendary center who works at espn former and the first thing he said when he saw the picture of my son was mayna put that boy's hand in the dirt immediately which means he thought he should play in the offensive line uh but he slimmed out a little bit uh and i think that that's what happens right they kind of when they start walking and start walking and all of a sudden the muscle starts forming a little bit more and the chub the chub goes away i know and i'm just looking at the pictures of his legs from when he was a baby i just want to grab them you want to squeeze them again our youngest like i said she's about to be a year old at the end of march she is currently wearing 18 to 24 month clothing uh and not super thick sadly enough because i do love i love fat baby thighs i love chunky baby thighs so much um but she is not a chubby baby thigh she's not a chubby baby thigh she's not a chubby baby thigh she's not super thick she's just long as can be um so i i do know about some ridiculous percentiles long babies are easy to like when my friends have tall toddlers i'm like whoo i'll throw them i'm like dang they the weight distribution makes them easy to carry my son is like a chicken nugget like he's just dense and i think they like that's i know i was talking about how i got like literally when i lift him up compared to even if it's a toddler who weighs the same but is longer i find them easier to hold it's so funny when you say dense because our second is dense and has been done since the minute she came out they weighed her on the little uh like newborn bassinet three different times the third times they removed the third time they removed all the blankets because we were all like there's no way she's that heavy how heavy was she she was only eight pounds 13 ounces i think but that's she looked she looked smaller than our first and our first was like eight six or something and it was just one of those moments where you're like there's no way she's that heavy she's been dense her whole life now you drop her it sounds like if she falls off the back of the couch she did it just last night it sounds like a grown man hit the floor it is insane it's insane she will be she will be our toughest athlete i would think i'd also like to talk about some of the more humbling or overly honest things that my girls have said to me oh god um i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i'm wondering if your son has said anything that we would classify as overly honest i'll give you an example um i not so recently have been told well i mean it wasn't that long ago let's be real uh i was getting dressed and one of my children said that's nice your stomach is squishy i said thank you so much that's really kind of you um there was another time where vivid my child said dad's boobs are big but your boobs that's worse but your boobs are tall so do with that what you will take it out both of you with one swing by the way two birds one stone and that's many oh god um he my my husband taught him how to do this which is kind he says mama farted oh sometimes we'll be out in public and like my shoe will squeak and he'll be like attention she farted and everyone looks i'm like i didn't it was my show it's not what happened classic why are you blowing up my spot yeah why do you have to announce that to the world that would be the worst thing he does to me right now it's nice to know that at two and a half he's he's just going full go on it because i do think that we were a farts are funny household in some households i grew up finding out that i was a farts are funny household are not a farts are funny household that's not the life we were meant to live so we have a lot of like like someone will fart a child will fart in one room and say dad did it they did that yesterday dad's not even in the state he's not even in the same state and they're out here trying to blame dad for farts he knows it's funny because he says it and then he laughs like a little like demon laugh to himself sure yeah i love that so much um well i do also want to bring up uh you said it's cool that my son and millions of other sons are turning on the tv and i and think it's normal for a woman to be talking about football behind a desk this is i find to be so important so we go from farts are funny to how important this this because it's i always talk to people and i'm gonna tell you the same thing raising four girls it is so special to get to talk to women like yourself who have become experts and have put themselves in a position to be an outstanding role model for the four girls that we are raising knowing that they can look at what you're doing and understand that if they want to grow up and be intelligent beautiful women who talk about football that they can do that because you're showing them that that is the world that they get to grow up and that you have paved the way and that they can do what you've done and i think that's a really important thing to do and i think that's a really important so that is so special and i appreciate that you are that role model but for you to bring up that sons are also doing the same thing is so special because shouldn't that be how we're raising boys i i hope so and first of all it's very sweet of you to say that about your daughters and you know people always ask me did you want to do what you do growing up and i always say no because it never even occurred to me that i was going to do what i wanted to do and i always say it was a thing i could do so i really hope girls see us on tv and all of the women who work in nfl media right now and it just even occurs to them as a possibility is something that's really meaningful to me uh but as far as boys who already knew it was a possibility um you know i i just think that it's nice to see it normalized and we started off by talking about how important it is to have the support and both behind the scenes and but i would also say on camera of my male colleagues because when you know a young boy turns on espn he doesn't just see me talking about football he sees men listening and i think that is as powerful as anything i'll say um and it's something that i think not just in sports but to have that modeled in all walks of public life for young men is really really really really helpful the image of it alone so i'm so grateful to my colleagues for doing that for me and i'm so grateful to my um because i think it is so impactful in ways maybe they don't even appreciate that's really special it's so that's such a great point to know that that image of you sitting on a panel of your peers and you guys showing each other the mutual respect of listening to the points and having a pointed conversation is an example that really everyone should be able to to enjoy and get something from thank you so much for coming on 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