Kylie on Jason's Bday Thirst Trap, Being The Cool Aunt & Recruiting The G.O.A.T. with A'ja Wilson | Ep. 44
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Kylie Kelsey opens the episode by celebrating the power of a confident, joyful smile, linking it to her personal experience with Invisalign aligners, which improve both dental health and self-confidence. She emphasizes the importance of maintaining oral hygiene, especially with aligners, and shares how her family dynamics and values inform her views on communication and support. A key theme is the role of family as a safe space—highlighted through a viral story of an aunt helping a nephew with a failing grade, and reinforced by advice from Abby Wambach that parents should avoid attending sports practices to let kids focus on playing. Kylie also reflects on being mistakenly thought to be a sibling in a podcast, expressing humor and gratitude for respectful recognition. She then celebrates Asia Wilson’s groundbreaking achievements in women’s basketball, including her defensive excellence and the massive success of her signature shoe, which sold out in minutes. The episode concludes with a powerful discussion on the WNBA’s push for fair pay and revenue sharing, underscoring how players are demanding equitable compensation as the league grows and becomes more profitable. Kylie stresses that this isn’t about matching men’s leagues, but about internal fairness and long-term value, and she emphasizes the importance of supporting athletes with proper facilities and resources. The message is clear: confidence, family, and equity are central to personal and professional success in both life and sport.
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Not gonna lie, my kid told me,
that Jason's boobs are big.
And my boobs are tall.
I don't know either.
I mean, I think I know, but I'm gonna pretend like I know.
Let's get this podcast started.
Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original
brought to you by Olipop, a new kind of soda.
I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey,
a firm believer in waiting until after,
Thanksgiving, that's right, after,
to decorate for Christmas or listen to Christmas music.
Cut that shit out.
It's not time.
Give Thanksgiving her moment.
I now host two different YouTube shows.
What the fuck?
Shout out to FAFO.
What are we doing?
Apparently two YouTube shows.
And consider this your quarterly reminder.
I can fight, and I will if I need to, okay?
That's right.
Don't think I didn't see some of those comments on the thirst trap
Garage Beer posted on my husband for his birthday.
Let's start here.
Garage Beer, we have beef.
Mm-hmm.
Cut that shit out.
You knew what you're doing.
I respect it.
I do want to shout out to the real ones who have clearly heard my warnings,
like @hummingbirdcake, who said, "I'm gonna bite my tongue before I say something that makes me sick."
"I'm gonna bite my tongue before I say something that makes Kylie come beat my ass."
Way to recognize.
Because you know I would.
Someone else said, "Happy birthday to Jason, and congratulations to Kylie."
Thank you.
Women supporting women.
You know we love that around here.
I do just want to restate as the reminder, clear as day, so there is no confusion.
That's mine.
Yep.
When you see my husband, you should hear my voice like the
Finding Nemo seagulls.
Mine, mine, mine, mine, mine, mine, okay?
Don't get it twisted.
Coming up on today's episode, apparently I was the subject of an "I don't think so, honey" on the
Las Culturistas podcast, and I'm absolutely honored.
I'm going to talk about that as well as what it takes to be an absolutely elite aunt or uncle in
Doomscroll of the Week.
I also had absolutely no business hosting a panel with Malala in Philly, but I'm so
excited they let me do it anyway, and you know, I got her to say, "Go birds."
After that, I'm going to be joined by the three-time WNBA champion and league MVP, the
greatest in the world, Aja Wilson.
I just short-circuited because of how amazing the interview was, and still I'm crashing out about it.
Just another person I had no business speaking to.
Okay, but first let's get into real one comments of the week.
We've got quite a few comments like this one in last week's Disney episode, an entire podcast where
Kylie didn't swear, crying laughing face, how hard was that, two crying laughing faces, PS, that sign
off, excellent.
Well, I'm glad you guys picked up on that.
I was saying that I was going to do one episode that was swear-free, the entire thing, dedicated to
Big Ed.
For those of you who don't know Big Ed.
Big Ed is my father.
He is the only person that I make a conscious effort not to say the F-word in front of, well, him and
other people's children.
So I did say for a long time that that was going to be my one swear-free episode was going to be a
shout-out to Big Ed.
So shout-out to Big Ed.
We done did it.
Now we're done.
We did it, and we can move on from not swearing because I do understand that it is a family
friendly place, and we probably shouldn't freely drop the F-bomb there.
But sometimes when you see something magical, you're just like, fuck, that was cool.
You know?
Probably can't keep that in.
We'll see.
And our next real one comment is actually real one artwork.
Big Ed said, not my Big Ed, a different Big Ed, said, I made a fun FAFO Christmas ornament
modeled after the love artwork in Philly.
Think at NGL with Kylie will like it?
Uh, easy answer here.
Fuck yeah, that's a great, that's, that's outstanding as a great Christmas ornament
really gets you into the holiday spirit.
Okay, I need this for the NGL set when we start decorating our Japanese maple as a Christmas tree.
Big Ed, please make sure to check your DMs because someone is going to slide into them
on my behalf.
That's it for real one comments of the week.
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All right, first up on Doom Scroll, TikToker Kay McVay shared this video of her son calling
his aunt about a bad grade he got in school, and she had the most peak aunt response ever
for her nephew.
Queen Emma, the clip, please.
It says, my son calling my sister to see if she would sign a paper with a bad grade.
Really quick.
So I got a.
Really bad grade on a test today, and I was wondering if you could sign my mom's signature
because she doesn't like, I don't want her to see it because like, I'm really scared
that I'm going to get in trouble.
Yep.
All right.
So can I like ride my bike over?
Yep.
I'm so happy.
All right.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I'm on my way.
All right.
Bye-bye.
Yeah.
Or as she said.
Yep.
That outstanding.
First of all, the prompt response.
Yep.
Yep.
Absolutely.
I love this so much.
Your aunts and uncles are supposed to be safe space.
They're supposed to be the family that's just removed enough that they can kind of get behind
the chaos that ensues.
I love this so much.
If.
I currently have my three nieces that I call my nieces.
They're a family friend that are close enough that I feel they are my nieces.
I also have true blood related two nieces, one nephew that I am grateful enough to have
in my life.
If any of them called me, my nieces are teenagers.
If any of them called me.
I mean.
If they called me for a ride at 1am, if they called me to sign a test, if they call me
for anything, I'd be like, drop a pin.
Give me 10 minutes.
And that's 10 minutes to get to you.
Not 10 minutes until I leave my house.
10 minutes.
No questions asked.
I do believe that.
My.
I do.
I do believe Uncle Trav would do this.
I think Uncle Trav wouldn't think twice.
It would be difficult to get it to him.
But by then there might be like virtual signature for these tests situations.
And if that is the case, Uncle Trav, I guarantee you will sign it to send back to school.
I know that for a fact.
And I know that because I think there's two layers to this.
Will they sign it?
Maybe three layers.
Will they sign it?
How much of a priority is it?
And are they gonna tell the parents?
answer? Will I sign it? Yes. How quickly am I going to get this done? Is it a priority? Top
priority. It's going back to school with you tomorrow. Even if you call me 930 at night. Okay.
Third, I'm not telling nobody. What happened? Who? That's not my, I didn't do that. I didn't
say that. I don't know what you're, I, I didn't even receive a phone call. I don't know what
you're talking about. Get it. So call aunt Kai. She'll take care of it. My little nieces and
nephews, you know who you are. Give aunt Kai a call. I'll take care of it. Take care of it real
quick. Yep. To be clear, you're still going to have that grade, but I will sign it. I'm not going
to be the aunt that's like, you shouldn't be giving them. No, you are in that grade. So he's
get degrees. How do you think I graduated? Next up on doom scroll, we're talking about practice.
That's right. World cup champion,
Abby.
Abby Wambach was on the today show and shared her thoughts on parents attending their kids
sports practices. Do not go to practice. Oh, practice. Drop your
kids off. If they're young, walk them to the practice, go get in your car, sit in your car,
play on your phone, do whatever you want to do. Read a book, go for a run, but do not go to the
practice. This is a time for your kids to play, to not be looking over their shoulders. Also give
parents their life back a little bit. That's true. Come on.
I cannot agree with this more. Don't go to, what are you doing? Don't go to practice. The practice is set up to prepare them for game play, right? They're there to play. They're
there to sort it out. They're there to learn new skills. They're there to focus on their teammates
and the coach. I love the idea of roll up, drop your kids off, tell them to have a great practice.
If you want to stick around,
in the parking lot, fine, but it shouldn't be, it should be clear to your child
that you are not involved in their practice.
You know what's cool? When they come to you after practice and they get in the car and you can say,
what did you work on today? What did you learn? How did that go? What did you like the best?
It's more ways to talk to your kids, but being there also as if you're, what are you going to
do? Pop in and coach too? No. Go sit in your car. Cut that out. Don't do that. They're at practice.
Let them go and play. Like Abby said, let them go play. That's why they're there. We are not quite
to an age yet where our kids are doing organized sports without parents. We currently have, we've
started soccer. When they do other practices, they've done gymnastics, they've done a lot of
things. I, during gymnastics, I have tried to sit down so that they can't see me. Why I didn't like
that because it was more of a, you're not going to leave me, right? We were still able to talk
about what was happening afterwards. And whenever she looked at me, I was like, stop looking at me,
focus on what you're doing. And the one time I actually told her in the car, Hey, if you keep
looking over at me during practice, I will go and sit in a place where you can't see me because I'm
not involved in your practice.
You have to focus on your coach. And last girl, it's been brought to my attention that I was
featured in an iconic Las Culturistas podcast segment called. I don't think so, honey. I have
not seen this yet. So you're seeing my reaction in real time. Kylie Kelsey is his wife. I thought she was their sister on you.
I thought Kylie Kelsey was Travis and Jason's sister. And here's what happened.
So I was leaving a hotel and I walked past this girl and I'm like, Oh my God, that's
Kylie Kelsey. She's about five, six. And I say to Melissa, I'm like, I think that was Kylie Kelsey.
She goes, no, no, no. She's tall. And I go, right. Cause that family is tall. And I go about my life
thinking that that's their sister who has a podcast. That's the so disrespectful towards
another podcaster. Me, I need to know this like pop culture is supposed
to be something I know about and something I should know about other podcasters. Kylie,
I'm sorry. I disrespected. Please come on the pod. I have so many thoughts. First of all,
first of all, the fact that you said my name one time
humbling experience. The fact that you said it multiple times is actually tripping me out.
You said my name. What? Okay. Next. I do appreciate that. It was not that you think
that we look like siblings that I don't think that that point was made anywhere in your minute.
Of your segment, which I can appreciate because that would have freaked me out.
I love his desire to not disrespect a fellow podcaster. If we're calling me that, uh,
I know that to be clear, I know I have a podcast. I would not describe myself as a podcaster
because I think that's insulting to other podcasters. I would love to go on Las Culturistas.
Uh, maybe we can have Bowen and Matt on NGL sometime. Maybe you guys want to come over here
and chit chat. Um, I will say, I think if since Jennifer Lawrence is sitting in your guest seat,
first of all, dragging her into the mess that is, uh, that segment with me involved, I'm so sorry
to her that we, that I, that my name or any,
any thoughts about me wasted your time. I would like this to end in an apology for me. I don't
think so, honey, me. I don't think so, honey, that I should take up any space in your brain
and I'm sorry that I wasted it. Also, I would just like to point out that I, to be fair,
say this all the time, Kylie Kelsey, not a great name. It's not a great name. So I do, I would just
like to point out that you thought that I was given that name from birth. Kylie Kelsey. No,
no, I, I'm a McDevitt that fell face first into the Kelsey last name. So I swiped my way into that one.
Oh God, that's bad. All right. That does it for doom scroll of the week brought to you by Peloton
moving on a brand new edition of places. Kylie has no business being recently. I had the pleasure of
having absolutely no,
no business hosting a panel for Malala on her finding my way book tour stop in Philly. And it
was tremendous. It was incredible. Uh, my initial reaction to hearing that Malala wanted me to
moderate was, uh, disbelief. That's the easiest way to say it. Uh, I had some words about it,
uh, that, I mean, full disclosure, I said, are you fucking kidding me? You're kidding.
You're joking. That's a joke. You're kidding me. Uh, I read Malala's first book. I am Malala
when I was in college, our school had a very deeply rooted emphasis on, uh, what they called
engagement for the common good. And there was a lot of looking at, uh, international
affairs and what was happening across the globe and different social justice issues. Um, so that
we could more find a deeper understanding for them. And Malala was part of those conversations
because of her emphasis on, uh, women in Arab countries seeking their education.
And because of that, when I got the email asking if I would be interested,
I could not compute that. So I said yes.
And then proceeded to get very, very nervous about making sure that I was going to live up to
an expectation that I think comes along with Malala's professionalism, her intelligence,
her wit, all of it. And she was,
incredible. I'm so grateful to Malala. It was so amazing to meet her and her husband and her entire
team. Uh, I'm so grateful that they thought that I was qualified to do this. Uh, it was incredible.
And at the end of the day, we got her to say, go birds.
I'm so grateful that they thought that I was qualified to do this. And
I did compliment her on her usage of green attire and then proceeded to tell her that if there was
ever a lull or a question that was a little too open-ended, feel free to hit them with a go birds
and you'll have them right back on your side. She didn't even need it, obviously, because every
time someone has asked a question, she was right on it, gave an outstanding response.
And, uh, we also closed out the show and the only way Philly knows how
that's right. Bringing the people together.
G-L-E-S, Eagles!
It's beautiful.
Talk about unity, you know, bringing the people together.
And all of this, like I said, we got to spend time beforehand backstage.
I did spend some of that time convincing her to come to an Eagles game.
So now that she's said go birds and practiced an Eagles chant,
I feel like she's a shoo-in to be cheering on the birds with us.
And I love that.
Thank you to Malala and her team.
It was a truly memorable experience that I feel like I had no business participating in,
but I am so incredibly grateful that I had that opportunity.
So thank you, thank you, thank you.
Please check out Malala's new book, Finding My Way.
It is. is definitely something you will not be able to put down.
That's it for Places Kylie Has No Business Being.
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Okay, before I go into your intro, I just want the real ones to know.
This might be the most impressive list of accolades I've ever read out loud in my life.
It is just.
It's unreal.
Okay, so here we go.
She's the four-time WNBA League MVP, three-time champion, two-time finals MVP,
seven-time All-Star, two-time gold medalist, and former WNBA Rookie of the Year.
Her record-breaking signature shoe sold out in under five minutes.
She's a cover star for Time's 2025 Women of the Year,
the Las Vegas Aces all-time scoring leader,
and now she's officially not going to lie.
Asia Wilson, welcome to the show.
Hello.
Oh, my gosh.
I am in the presence of greatness to a degree that I cannot explain.
Thank you.
This is incredible.
Thank you.
First of all, thank you so much.
Speaking of your sneakers.
Mm-hmm.
These are stunning.
Thank you.
Yeah, I do.
I am going to show the shoe because I'm very excited.
Like, are you kidding me?
Are you kidding?
Look at that.
Oh, yeah.
The candy corn.
The candy corn.
Thank you so much for sending me some.
I will now make it my mission to, I don't know, ball at all.
Come on.
You got it.
I am.
My dad tried really hard.
He cemented the hoop in the backyard and everything.
Oh, yeah.
And I went the wrong direction.
I went down instead of up.
To be fair, I don't know that I'm cool enough to play basketball.
Well, you have A1s now, so you are definitely cool enough.
Now I'm going to try.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Now I can ball.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm waiting for you.
I might need you to offer some tips.
It's okay.
Because as many times as my dad told me to get my hands up, I shot from my chest every time.
So there's that.
We can work on that.
We're good.
We can work on that.
That's an easy fix, honestly.
Done.
That's easy.
I do think I might be decent at defense.
Okay.
That's what wins games.
And I love defense.
I love defense because that was my position in hockey.
Field hockey, I was deep D.
Okay.
So defense, I have deep roots in.
I think I could just get my hands up.
That's it.
And stick with them.
Oh, yeah.
We're good.
We're in there.
That's perfect.
Like, you had me scared for a moment.
You're good.
That's easy work.
I'm almost six feet tall.
I'm 5'11".
Okay.
You're checking out the boxes for me.
I'm sold.
All you needed was shoes, and you got them.
So we're good.
Thank you.
Well, now, Dawn Staley.
Your former coach in South Carolina came on this show a couple months ago
and said that you were, and I quote, the best player in the world.
And I've been so excited to talk to you about that.
How do you react when you see quotes like that from Dawn?
I mean, from her, it's like an eye-opener because Coach Staley really picks
and chooses when she wants to give compliments.
So I have to really, like, take them as a grain of salt because they don't
really come often a lot.
She's normally just giving me the criticism that I need to fuel me.
But that just means a lot, honestly.
Like, Coach Staley believes.
She believed in me when no one else did, when I didn't.
She sat in gyms and just watched a little girl that didn't know how to play
basketball just love the sport and love being around her teammates.
So it's pretty cool to just, like, have her say those things because she
literally helped mold me into the best player ever in the world.
And so it's pretty a big moment for us to share.
I think she doesn't understand how much she has been a vital piece into how I
am and who I am as a player.
So I'm grateful to just hear her say that.
I'm grateful to just hear her say those things because I know I got on her nerves
a lot for four years.
So it's pretty cool.
I talked to her about doing TikToks with her players now.
Does that surprise you?
Yes, because she's, no, she's gotten soft.
It's ridiculous how soft she's gotten because, one, when we were in school, we
couldn't have phones on game days.
We couldn't, like, we had to literally spend a whole day without our phone,
like, go to classes, like, live a normal life without a phone.
Like, excuse me?
We couldn't have social media.
Did I remember her calling me Charmin?
Because she was like, oh, you're just soft.
Like, SEC needs to rough you up.
And I'm like, now you're Charmin.
These kids got you doing TikToks.
You're dancing.
She's wiggling those knees of hers.
Like, I'm just like, who are you?
Like, who is this lady?
So, yeah, she's gotten a little soft around the edges.
And she's always like, oh, I'm from North Philly.
Like, I don't cry.
I don't do any of this.
And then I look on my phone and I'm like, look at her crying on national television.
So, yeah, she's Charmin now.
She's the new Charmin.
Now, as a lifelong Philadelphia resident, I did also talk to Dawn about the WNBA team
in Philly, which we are, of course, getting.
2030.
So, I have five years to do this, but I'm going to start right now.
How can I recruit you to Philadelphia?
Okay.
Yeah.
Going to have to plug my agent here.
Sure.
Perfect.
Five years?
Give me some time.
I mean, the city is beautiful.
We do.
We have so much time.
That's always a problem.
Plus.
But, yeah, let me get the wheels turning a little bit.
Perfect.
We can maybe reconsider some things.
It's a fight with Vegas, though.
That's good luck with that.
That's a fight I actually don't want to get into.
Yeah, that's a scary fight right there.
I don't know.
It does worry me a little bit.
But I will tell you, just so that I can set the scene for you, our food scene, outstanding.
Okay.
Am I coming in?
I will tell you, the passion from fans in Philadelphia is unmatched.
Yeah, I've seen.
It's different.
It's very different.
I will say, on the receiving end from visiting teams, negative feedback.
From people who have joined us.
Ten out of ten.
Big fans.
They're big fans of our fans.
Okay.
Yeah.
We pour it all into it.
We really, we love, love people who ride for us.
Yes.
Well, I love that for the W team that's coming.
Yeah.
No, we will be so in.
And I'm going to play the long game.
I'm going to play the long game here to get the best in the world to Philadelphia.
So, I will revisit this topic.
I'm going to see if I can't connect with Dawn on this.
We could get you in an Eagles jersey.
I'm just saying.
Okay.
Yeah.
And if I don't, at least I'm going there to play.
So, I'll at least be there once or twice a year.
Yeah.
I don't know if they're like me, but it's okay.
No, no.
I'm sorry.
Let me get ahead of that right now because it's not good.
It's actually very bad.
Okay.
Yep.
We can work through it.
I say that being one of them.
well for now you're in vegas with the aces yes uh so i will respect that and i saw you recently
celebrated the championship win yes i tagged along to an eagle super bowl parade so i've seen some
of this stuff up close how rowdy did it get on that bus oh okay yeah it got really rowdy only
because our bus driver was like going 70 miles per hour oh unless i was up there dreaming but
we were zooming through that parade like zooming and so we were really like trying to turn up but
also scared for our lives because like i'm having the trophy in my hand i got my thanos glove like
we're trying to look good like you know we turn it up all of a sudden it's like zoom like we are
pouring it downtown like our bus driver was like
whoo i love the aces zoom i was like whoa we want to still be the aces honey when we get off
uh
um i would like to uh just reference an outstanding supercut of you at your
championship press conference should we roll the clip queen emma let's reel it in now guys
right here let's reel it in 23 go on the run we'll go back to back
nancy armor usa today sports this is for becky and for chelsea um these are the ones that stuck
so
that burp
um hi this question's for chelsea
chelsea you get one off
the parade is october 17th friday looking forward to it
i don't know who i want to see i'm cool yeah beyonce would be great at the bottom
okay i have so many questions
me too
you
you remember sitting at the press conference first of all yes perfect yes i do okay now
did i hear did i hear correctly someone at the beginning saying let's get it together yeah me
um yeah that was something that i didn't do was good get it together and it's crazy because before
every championship parade i mean press conference chelsea will pull me aside and be like asia let's
lock in and i'm like i got you like bro i got you professionalism at his finest right here
because like i've learned i've learned from the other press conference first press conference
cut me some slack never been there before i was like yeah second back to back never did it before
give me some slack this one i said all right let me tighten up but my eyes were not saying that
so chelsea was like put your goggles on when no one's talking to you and i said you're right
so in my mind that'll help yeah i'm like when i put these goggles on they do not see me like the
camera was supposed to pan like to someone else but it didn't it stayed on me and i'm like that's
not what i asked for do you think it had anything to do with the tambourine the tambourine was just
it did the speaking it was supposed to speak for me once again i was not i was off the market
the only thing that would have made that better if you started checking behind yourself to be like
what are you guys looking at what is it my goggles are on i'm not here i am invisible
it was outstanding you did amazing thank you i'm glad i got the only thing that'll make it better
is when you go for four and somehow top yourself somehow it never fails
if you could please i'm just going to float this one out there i'm going to knock on wood because
i'm a very superstitious person i don't want to jinx you going going on your mission thank you
we'll leave it that broad i think the tambourine is the perfect segue to a full drum set i'm just
going to throw it out there i think if someone wheels you in a drum set that that would be that
could be clean outstanding yeah i like that i like i actually like consider it instrument every time
so
manifest it i just think you need to go bigger bigger bigger i think the tambourine did enough
no i think it did i know no i think it was perfect but if you if you guys go for four
and you do it i just think it was the perfect lean into a drum set a full drum set i like that
idea just consider it just consider it yeah if anyone needs help getting that taken care of
i'll i will volunteer yes perfect we know where to go we got you we're here
i just can't wait for someone to be like who is that woman wheeling in a drum set
it's gonna be me it will be me once again i'll be wear your goggles no one will know you're perfect
that's the ticket my invisibility cloak goggles no one will know you brought it in there like
this who's pushing these drums wow those drums are moving by themselves that's perfect i'm doing it
please do that let's do it uh and since we're playing clips i just saw your dance
in uh jennifer hudson's spirit tunnel oh yeah south carolina come on and raise up spirit
yes you killed that thank you you really did thank you uh that's that's the first point second point
uh i cannot get over how many comments are people shocked about you being tall yeah i didn't get that
either i'm like people not understand one what i do for a living guys do you do you not understand
basketball like hmm uh do you are people often surprised at how tall you are yes i actually get
that like really like when i take pictures of people they're like whoa you're tall and i'm like
did you think i was going to be your height
like did you think you think i was gonna be especially like men you think i was gonna be
this good yeah they're like whoa you are tall and it's like yeah like it's very much how's the
weather down there like yeah what did you think so yeah i'm always very shocked at how people are
shocked that i'm tall and i'm just like do i not give tall because i feel like i give tall like
when you see me play you do i don't it's not small for sure so i'm kind of like what did you guys
think i was five six i will say i i am frequently uh i am within that interaction of i step to
someone like next to someone and they do the same you're taller than i thought yeah
and i'm like i actually talk about being tall all the time right literally all the
time i can't tell you how many times i've talked about that whenever i put on a pair of pants it
looks like a flood's coming i hello i yell it from the rooftops yeah and still people are like wow
right huh it's so weird i'm like you can literally google my height and it's gonna tell you it's not
gonna lie now i'd love to talk to you more about your legendary career you just won defensive
player of the year yes yes so i think it's safe to say you can probably defend anyone but who would
you say is the toughest player in the world
to go up against oh toughest player to go up against um i'm gonna always say brianna stewart
i'm always say stewie um only because stewie's just she's a three level scorer um and and the
way that she plays the game is so tough to to read uh because she's that skillful and so sometimes
when i'm thinking about just how to guard her how to make it harder because some players are like
okay force it to their bad hand you can live with it um but stewie is completely different like you
really have to be able to know how and when she's going to score the basketball and that's super
super tough uh but i love it i really love competing against stewie because every time we
play against each other it is like blockbuster they're like some elite basketball that you're
watching um and she makes me think every possession and i love that because sometimes i get bored
mid-game uh just because of just the person that i am i just get bored easily um but sometimes when
you're guarding stewie you have to keep your head on a swivel uh because she's very locked in yeah
yeah yeah she's very guard like um but then also she's tall so yeah it's a you get get the best of
both worlds okay we'll add her to the list of recruiting wouldn't that be fun if you guys could
play together you don't have to go up against her i'm just gonna throw that one out there again
just circling back a little yep uh is there a team or player besides stewie that you feel
you personally have done the most game planning for uh i'm trying to think of all the teams i
would say we always do a lot of game planning for uh the seattle storm i feel like we're that's a team
that we're always pretty even with like we either we're always going to see them in playoffs like
no matter what i feel like we run into them every single year um and then throughout the regular
season it's never really a but cut an ass whooping they probably whooped our ass i know they whooped
our ass once um but it's always like just constant just butting of the heads uh every single year it
doesn't matter what roster that is there it's always something so i think we have to prep extra
hard for them and i think they're also a team that really has like three guards and two posts like
they really play the or like the structure the the basketball structure like always the same way
um and they're really good and they have bets at each position so i would say prepping for them is
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exponentially. And like I mentioned in your intro, you're personally popular to the point your
signature Nike shoes, the A1s, sold out in under five minutes. Five minutes. What was your initial
reaction to hearing that? It's crazy because I tried to sleep through, like, I wanted to sleep
through the alarm. Like, I didn't set an alarm that day. I was like, I don't want to wake up when
the shoe drops. I don't want to see anything about it. And so I purposely, like, just slept. I just
woke up and it was sold out. Of course, I woke up, like, four minutes after the shoe drop, just
because I couldn't stand to sleep in. And when I saw it, I literally just started crying only
because I couldn't believe it. Like, this was something I could honestly say the A1 was one of
the most anticipating shoes that we've seen in a long, long time. And we had pop-ups, like, all
over the country. And, like, people were camping out and waking up early, early, like, just to get
in. So it gave you the old school, like, I need to get this shoe type of feel. But when it got online
for everyone to really buy, I was so nervous. And so when it sold out, I was just, like, bawling,
crying because I could not believe that, like, finally this shoe is shared with the world. Like,
finally everyone can see why it took so long and why we had to work so hard and kept it so
close-knit. But yeah, I was in tears because I just could not believe that people wanted the A1.
Which is crazy, but, like, it's just that feel that you get.
It's so funny because it's not even that people wanted it. It's that people were so excited to
get it that they did exactly what you're saying, the old school shoe drop. Like, I need to be there,
like, lying around the block situation.
Yes. Yes.
That's it. Five minutes is, like, that's insane.
Like, I literally, like, I really was just, like, there's no way. Like, there's just no way. And
my first shoe was pink. But I was very worried about, like, is the consumer going to like pink?
Are they going to buy pink? Is it just going to be women? Like, are they going to know that this
is a shoe for everybody? So there were, like, a bunch of things going off in my mind to where,
like, my parents had to say, Asia, just please calm down. Like, no one's thinking about what
you're thinking right now. Like, they're just, they're going to want to buy the shoe because
they want to buy the shoe, point blank. Yes. And, like, I had to realize that. And then once I got
over that, I was like, oh, they do want a pink shoe. I was like, yes.
We painted the town pink.
Now, speaking of the pink shoe, one of the amazing images that I saw of other players wearing the
A1s was Bam. Yeah. He wore them in a game back in February before the A1s official release.
What did it feel like to be able to see not only your shoe?
Yeah. Yeah.
But also having the support.
Yeah.
Of someone like that. What did that feel like?
It was amazing. Like, it was a feeling that I, it didn't really hit me until I went to the game. I
saw him in them because I gave him the shoe, like, a couple of days before. And I don't ever pressure
Bam to, I'm not like, wear these on this day and rock them. Like, I never do that. I'm like,
dude, do your own thing. Like, thank you for even having them, obviously, but just do your thing.
So I didn't know he was going to wear them that game. So when I got to the, to the arena,
and see him warm up, I was just like, oh my God. Like, it just, it kind of shook my heart a little
bit because I'm just like, dang, like these shoes aren't even out. And the first person to wear them
is my boyfriend. Like the first person that has really like playing in them and, and like on the
NBA platform, like this is huge. And I mean, he's sat in on meetings. He's been with me every step
of the way. So he's a piece of the journey as well. So for him to kind of get a chance to wear
it and rock it, obviously it made my heart so happy. Like his support is unwavering. Like it's,
it's incredible the way that he can constantly show up for me in the midst of everything that
he has going on. So it was super cool. I was like, dang, like my shoes on the NBA court,
like he got to wear it before me. That was when I was a little salty, but I was like, hey,
if anyone, if anyone, it can be. If anyone gets a free pass here, that's fine. You can have it.
It'll be, it'll be. Cause I was like, you're wearing them before me. Like, I don't know how
I feel about that. And he was like, oh, you know, sorry. Like, no, but he was trying to play it off
knowing, probably knowing he was like, I'm wearing these.
tomorrow so yeah it was pretty cool that's incredible
Now, uh, I talked about this recently, but I think relationships between athletes feel like safe space. And I will say this as in like me calling myself an athlete to you is a very generous take. So just let's throw that one out there. Uh, but I being with my husband and enjoying like athletics together, enjoying athletics separately, understanding, like being coachable and working with a team and all the things that go into like team sport and being an athlete.
Do you find that in your own relationship?
Yes, absolutely. I think it just, it's so like rewarding that after a game or just when you're going through like slumps in your season that you know that your partner fully understands it. Like 100%. There's times where after a game, I just sit in the car and Bam's just like, I know.
And it's like, just sometimes like, just to hear that, you're like, Oh my God, thank you. Like, I don't have to explain myself or I don't have to.
I don't have to show up and just be your girlfriend right here on the spot. Like you understand that it's tough right now. It's hard right now. And I may not, I may can't put it into words, but you know exactly what I mean. And I think that is the beautiful thing with our relationship is just like, they're just the, I know, like I get you.
I've been in these moments on my own platform, but now like for you, I definitely know the feeling and it doesn't get like talked about enough, obviously, because we don't really share that out loud.
But like those moments, just athlete to athlete versus just, and it can be boyfriend, girlfriend, but athlete to athlete is kind of like you're sitting in your own personal locker room and you can just constantly just bounce stuff off.
And Bam would be the first person to say, girl, you tripping. Like you, you tripping. That ain't, that ain't got nothing to do with what you're talking about. Like that's on you. And sometimes I need to hear that. A lot of times I need to hear that. So it's pretty cool to have that relationship.
Now, the other thing, the other side of being with an athlete.
The other side of being with an athlete is the competitive nature. Do you guys find that you compete every day, all day? Like it is sickening. Like I'm just like, it is. I'm like, I'm like, dude, I'm just trying to go to the, I'm just trying to go to the refrigerator. And so, yeah, it is. It's very competitive. It is actually scary how competitive it is because we, we do escape rooms in our like off time.
Just cause we just like to keep the wheels going. And sometimes I'm like, Hey, Bam, we're on the same team.
So like, I get that you found that hit first, but we were on the same team, dude. Like, it's okay.
We're both trying to get out of here.
So, and then here I go, I'm like, all right, but he found that clue. Let me go find one before him. I'm like, oh my God, I'm doing it, AJ. I'm like, really? Come on. So yeah, it's very competitive.
Is there something in particular that you guys are like regularly competitive about?
I would have to say we have our entertainment.
We have our Nintendo switches that we play pretty often. And we play the Mario Kart racing game.
And when I tell you that dictates what type of day we're having, it dictates today.
Like, I know sometimes Bam's like, let me let her win because I'm just trying to get through today. Like, I'm just trying, I'm just trying to get through today.
Trying to have an easy one today. Let me let her have it.
Yeah. And I think that's what we kind of do on a normal basis. It's just little games just like that, that I'm like, yeah, this is us.
My husband and I,
I don't know if you've ever played Settlers of Catan.
Oh no, it sounds good.
It's a board game.
Ooh.
It's, uh, and there's, there's a, you can play a version on your phone.
Hmm.
Yeah.
We're not allowed to play that anymore.
Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I get it.
We're not allowed.
I get it. I get it. Bam and I used to play Domino's on our phone and it's like, I had to just delete it. I'm like.
Yes.
Let's just give it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's, um, there's a, a robber in the game that you can like put on someone's space so that they no longer get.
To like get points or like resources.
Um, that shit would piss me off.
Like it was like, he would hand the phone back and he wouldn't look at me and I'd be like, you motherfuckers.
You already know what happened.
You're like, Ooh, he wouldn't look at me.
He would just go like this and pass it sideways.
And I'd be like, did you?
Yeah.
Oh, we're not allowed to, we're legitimately not allowed to play anymore.
I get it. I get it. I, I, I get it.
It's bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not good.
And, but it's okay.
It's what makes the relationship great.
I mean, I feel like the competitiveness is like what thrives the most in our relationship.
It keeps us on our toes.
Cause I'm like, I'm not going down without a fight.
You didn't lose.
We're just going to play this game.
No, it's, it, uh, it adds a little spark.
It does.
You know, very quickly circling back to the W because the league is growing so much.
It's also bringing a lot more revenue.
Oh yeah.
And something I did cover on the show previously.
Was you and all the WNBA all-stars making a statement with the pay us what you owe us.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I did mention when we talked about this on the show, big FAFO energy.
Uh, and if you don't know what that is, is fuck around and find out.
It's fuck around and find out energy.
I like it.
That's allowing people who have fucked around to indeed find out.
We love that for them.
We love that.
Absolutely.
Uh, you've said it before.
The players are standing on.
Business, which I also love for anyone who isn't up to speed.
Can you explain in basic terms what the players want to see accomplished?
Yeah.
I think the biggest thing that we're trying to see accomplishes, like you said, this has
been a big year for us, a big last couple of years for the W.
And I think when you look in at social or anything, it's just like, okay, the value
is going up.
Everything's going up.
I mean, we can, these TV deals.
And so when you're thinking about that, you're like, okay, well, let's talk revenue share.
Let's talk about that and how we can implement into our salaries.
Because when you look around and you think about businesses, the biggest thing is the
revenue share.
Like if this is going up, the players and the product is going up and we're showing
up every single day, our wallet should be doing the same.
Um, and so when you're talking about just seeing that, I think the league is growing.
And so for us, we have to sustain that by just getting equitable, excuse me, equitable
compensation.
And I think that is so key.
And that's what we're really just talking about is making sure that we're just united
and understanding and letting the league understand that.
We're not going anywhere.
We've earned everything that we have been fighting for.
We are valuable and we're going to continue to show up as that, as that.
And I think that is what makes our league so powerful is that we know the power of our
voice and our platform.
And we're not going to stop until we get what we deserve, but to see it and then to hear
what they're saying and it doesn't add up.
I think that's, what's going to continue for us to not back down because we see a lot of
things going on in the talks of our league and other leagues.
They're growing.
And it's like, well, if they see that we're worth the book, why can't our own league see
it?
And so it's going to take time as, as we know, and it is taking time right now, but we're
going to continue to stand on business for what we believe in and what we deserve.
Now, what's the biggest misconception you often hear about this whole conversation?
Oh, that we just want to get paid like the guys.
I hate when people say that.
And granted, I'm not a numbers girl.
I'm not at all.
I'm far from that.
But I think the biggest thing is just meeting the fair agreement of what.
We are discussing.
It's never what the NBA is doing.
It's never, oh, we want to pay them what we, what they got.
No, we understand that that's not how the business works, but we also understand that
we're missing within our own business.
The revenue share is missing in our own business and in our, in our own checks.
So I think people need to stop thinking about that way and just think more so of like, okay,
yes, they are saying, pay them what they deserve and what you owe.
I think it's so important to.
To not only stand up for this change for you guys, but also it's showing young women that
as a unit of the women representing the W that you guys are able to say, no, we're,
we're not going to accept less.
I think it's crazy that the reports are coming out to show, like you said, the TV deals and
the different things that are coming in at.
A significantly higher level, exponentially higher level than they have been in the past
with the previous deal.
And so to see that they're not willing to increase those percentages for you guys is
absolutely insane.
Yeah.
And it is.
And I think also people don't understand is like, we're working to, to get a CBA.
That's not just necessarily for the ones that are planning it.
Now we're talking about the ones that are coming after us, like making sure that they
have, they don't have to go through.
But we're going through.
And I think people don't understand that.
And yes, we talk about salary, but at the same time, just having a good workspace to
play in.
Like a lot of teams don't even have practice facilities.
And it's just like, I'm blessed enough.
Oh my goodness.
I know I'm blessed enough to have an owner and a franchise that are really player forward.
They're like, what do they need?
And we were the first.
Yeah.
I think we were the, one of the first WNBA teams to have a practice facility and people
wonder, oh, well, what makes the aces greater?
Why are they?
Why are they so great?
And why are they constantly in the conversations?
Because we have exactly what we need and we don't have to come into work thinking and
wondering, oh, is this going to work or what we're now I have to drive and share this court
with people like, no, like we don't have that problem.
And so now it's kind of like making others owners or anyone else, like put your money
where your mouth is and give us what we need.
Not, yes, what we deserve, but what we need.
And so, yeah, we, there's a lot of work that needs to be done.
But yeah, I think that's what we need.
but people really also
don't understand is like we yes we're fighting now but it's not just fighting for us and i'm i
check i'm fighting for the young athletes that's coming up behind me i also think that's so
important to to acknowledge the fact that the leadership that have the ability to maybe make
sure that there is a specific practice facility or to make sure that the players have everything
that they need that they have bought into the w in a way that they have put uh a a level of
importance right on this league and the women in it and so it is exactly what you're saying put the
money where your mouth is support these athletes the way that you as ownership or as leadership in
this league should be prioritizing the athletes absolutely 100 percent agree i
cannot thank you enough for coming on it has been an absolute pleasure to get to talk to you
and i always like to say this to women who are paving the way i with someone as someone who has
four daughters in their house i am so grateful that they have someone like you to look up to
and to see how hard you are working your drive your dedication to your sport um the way that you
sort of present yourself even when it's having fun in a press conference
i love that those are the examples that my girls have out in the world so i really appreciate you
and everything that you're doing thank you so much you're amazing too like you are unapologetically you
and we need a lot more women like that in in this world to not be afraid to be that way
and honestly every video i see of you i'm like that's right like i just i can't help myself i'm
like that's right like stand on it so i i'm a huge fan and i can't thank you enough for
thank you so much you like i love that like you are truly
you and and we don't see a lot of people being that in these spaces so thank you so much
no thank you and uh i can't wait to see you in philly hopefully it's
representing them but you never know at least you know we'll be i'll be there
whether i'm on that side or not at least i'm there in the summer and i apologize ahead of time
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confident in my smile i think that a smile is one of the best things that you can possibly have i
think one of the best things that you can put on is a smile i'm not just saying that because it's
like some old quote or something i'm saying it because i truly believe that when you can smile
and really mean it like when it goes all the way up to your eyes because you're confident you're
happy and you're feeling joy who doesn't want to see that more importantly who doesn't want to feel
that but let's talk about something beyond how your smile looks like and i'm going to talk about
how your smile looks taking care of it and since we've already established that i take flossing very
seriously this part deserves a little attention invisalign aligners straighten teeth making it
easier to brush and floss reducing plaque and lowering the risk of cavities and gum disease i
have to be really careful to make sure that i'm keeping up with my oral hygiene because i have
little muffins that watch me and i need to make sure that they're modeling that same care for
their own teeth back in college i was thinking about how my smile would look now i appreciate
that there's more to it than that
look at her look at her oh she's cute look at her wow and if you're thinking about starting
your smile journey make sure you're getting invisalign aligners look for the star flower
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Kylie Kelsey promotes Invisalign aligners for improving smiles and oral health, emphasizing confidence and confidence-driven smiling.
Invisalign helps with better brushing and flossing, reducing plaque and risk of cavities and gum disease.
Kylie shares personal experiences with her family, including her father, and highlights the importance of family-friendly communication.
She praises a viral moment where an aunt immediately helps a nephew with a bad grade, showcasing the role of family as a safe space.
Abby Wambach advises parents not to attend sports practices, stressing the importance of letting kids focus on playing and learning.
Kylie reflects on being featured in a Las Culturistas segment, expressing appreciation for respectful recognition and clarifying her identity.
She highlights Asia Wilson’s achievements in women’s basketball, including her defensive accolades and signature shoe’s success.
The WNBA players are advocating for equitable pay and revenue sharing, emphasizing their value and the need for fair compensation.
Summary:
Kylie Kelsey opens the episode by celebrating the power of a confident, joyful smile, linking it to her personal experience with Invisalign aligners, which improve both dental health and self-confidence. She emphasizes the importance of maintaining oral hygiene, especially with aligners, and shares how her family dynamics and values inform her views on communication and support. A key theme is the role of family as a safe space—highlighted through a viral story of an aunt helping a nephew with a failing grade, and reinforced by advice from Abby Wambach that parents should avoid attending sports practices to let kids focus on playing.
Kylie also reflects on being mistakenly thought to be a sibling in a podcast, expressing humor and gratitude for respectful recognition. She then celebrates Asia Wilson’s groundbreaking achievements in women’s basketball, including her defensive excellence and the massive success of her signature shoe, which sold out in minutes. The episode concludes with a powerful discussion on the WNBA’s push for fair pay and revenue sharing, underscoring how players are demanding equitable compensation as the league grows and becomes more profitable.
Kylie stresses that this isn’t about matching men’s leagues, but about internal fairness and long-term value, and she emphasizes the importance of supporting athletes with proper facilities and resources. The message is clear: confidence, family, and equity are central to personal and professional success in both life and sport.
FAQs
Invisalign aligners straighten teeth, making it easier to brush and floss, which reduces plaque and lowers the risk of cavities and gum disease.
A confident smile is one of the best things a person can have because it reflects joy, happiness, and self-assurance, and it's something that truly feels good when it goes all the way to the eyes.
The speaker emphasizes that consistent oral hygiene is crucial when using Invisalign, as the aligners require careful cleaning to prevent plaque buildup and maintain healthy teeth and gums.
Visa runs over 500 security checks before transactions are approved to help identify fraud, giving users peace of mind and allowing them to focus on other priorities like protecting their food from hungry family members.
The speaker highlights that women supporting women—like the positive comments from fans on social media—creates a strong, uplifting community, especially in spaces like sports where visibility and encouragement matter.
The movement calls for equitable revenue sharing and fair compensation, emphasizing that as the league’s revenue grows, players deserve a fair share of the profits to reflect their value and platform.
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