Kylie on Jason's Bday Thirst Trap, Being The Cool Aunt & Recruiting The G.O.A.T. with A'ja Wilson | Ep. 44

Not gonna lie. My kid told me that Jason's boobs are big and my boobs are tall. I don't know either. I mean, I think I know, but I'm gonna pretend like I know. Let's get this podcast started. Welcome back to "Not Gonna Lie" a wave original brought to you by Oli Pop, a new kind of soda. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, a firm believer in waiting until after Thanksgiving. That's right. After to decorate for Christmas or listen to Christmas music. Cut that shit out. It's not time. Give Thanksgiving her moment. I now host two different YouTube shows. But the fuck? Shout out to FAFO. What are we doing? Apparently two YouTube shows. And consider this your quarterly reminder. I can fight. And I will, if I need to. Okay? That's right. Don't think I didn't see some of those comments on the thirst trap garage beer posted on my husband for his birthday. Let's start here, garage beer. We have beef. Mm-hmm. Cut that shit out. You knew what you were doing. I respect it. I do want to shout out to the real ones who have clearly heard my warnings, like @hummingbirdcake, who said, "I'm gonna bite my tongue before I say something that makes Kylie come beat my ass." Way to recognize. Because you know I would. Someone else said, "Happy birthday to Jason and congratulations to Kylie. Thank you. Women supporting women." You know we love that around here. I do just want to restate as the reminder. Clear is day. So there is no confusion. That's mine. Yep. When you see my husband, you should hear my voice, like the finding Nemo Seagulls. Mine, mine, mine, mine, mine, mine. Okay? Don't get it twisted. Coming up on today's episode, apparently I was the subject of an "I don't think so honey" on the last cultureista's podcast. And I'm absolutely honored. I'm going to talk about that as well as what it takes to be an absolutely elite aunt or uncle in Doomscall the Week. I also had absolutely no business hosting a panel with Malala and Philly, but I'm so excited they let me do it anyway. And you know, I got her to say go birds. After that, I'm going to be joined by the three-time WNBA champion and league MVP, the greatest in the world, Asia Wilson. I'm just short circuited because of how amazing the interview was. And still, I'm crashing out about it, just another person I had. No business speaking too. Okay. But first, let's get into real-one comments of the week. We've got quite a few comments like this one in last week's Disney episode. An entire podcast where Kylie didn't swear, crying, laughing face. How hard was that? Two crying laughing faces. PS, that sign-off? Excellent. Well, I'm glad you guys picked up on that. I was saying that I was going to do one episode that was swear-free. The entire thing dedicated to Big Ed. For those of you who don't know, Big Ed is my father. He is the only person that I make a conscious effort not to say the F word in front of, well, him and other people's children. So I did say for a long time that that was going to be my one swear-free episode was going to be a shout out to Big Ed. So shout out to Big Ed. We done, didn't it? Now, we're done. We did it and we can move on from not swearing because I do understand that it is a family-friendly place and we probably shouldn't freely drop the F bomb there. But sometimes when you see something magical, you're just like, "Fuck, that was cool." You know? Probably can't keep that in. We'll see. And our next real one comment is actually real one artwork. Big Ed said, not my big Ed, a different big Ed, said, "I made a fun F-A-F-O Christmas ornament modeled after the love artwork in Philly. Think @NGL with Kylie will like it?" Uh, easy answer here. Fuck yeah. That's a great, that's that's outstanding. That's a great Christmas ornament. Really gets you into the holiday spirit. Okay. I need this for the NGL set when we start decorating our Japanese maple as a Christmas tree. Big Ed, please make sure to check your DMs because someone is going to slide into them on my behalf. That's it for real one comments of the week. Moving on, let's get right into Doom Scroll. The week brought to you by Peloton. Check out the new cross-training tread plus at onepeloton.com. All right, first up on Doom Scroll. Tiktok or K. McVeigh shared this video of her son calling his aunt about a bad grade he got in school and she had the most peak ant response ever. For her nephew, Queen Emma the clip, please. It says, "My son calling my sister to see if she would sign a paper with a bad grade." Uh, really quick. So I got a really bad grade on a test today and I was wondering if you could sign my mom's signature because she doesn't like I don't want her to see it because like I'm really scared that I'm going to get in trouble. All right, so can I like ride my bike over? Yep. I'm so happy. All right, thank you. Yep. Or as she said, yep. That outstanding. First of all, the prompt response. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. I love this so much. Your aunts and uncles are supposed to be safe space. They're supposed to be the family that's just removed enough that they can kind of get behind the chaos that ensues. I love this so much. If I currently have my three nieces that I call my nieces, they're a family friend that are close enough that I feel they are my nieces, I also have true blood related to nieces one nephew that I am grateful enough to have in my life. If any of them called me, my nieces are teenagers. If any of them called me, I mean, if they called me for a ride at 1am, if they called me to sign a test, if they called me for anything, I'd be like, drop a pen. Give me 10 minutes. And that's 10 minutes to get to you. Not 10 minutes until I leave my house 10 minutes. No questions asked. I do believe that my I do believe Uncle Trav would do this. I think Uncle Trav wouldn't think twice. It would be difficult to get it to him. But by then, there might be like virtual signature for these tests situations. And if that is the case, Uncle Trav, I guarantee you will sign it to send back to school. I know that for a fact. And I know that because I think there's two layers to this. Will they sign it? Maybe three layers. Will they sign it? How much of a priority is it? And are they going to tell the parents? My answer? Will I sign it? Yes. How quickly am I going to get this done? Is it a priority? Top priority. It's going back to school with you tomorrow. Even if you call me, 9/30 at night, okay? Third? I'm not telling nobody. What happened? Who? That's not my, I didn't do that. I didn't sign that. I don't know what you're, I didn't even receive a phone call. I don't know what you're talking about. Get it? So calling it Kai, she'll take care of it. My little nieces and nephews, you know who you are. Give Aunt Kai a call. Take care of it real quick. Yeah. To be clear, you're still going to have that grade, but I will sign it. I'm not going to be the aunt. That's like, you shouldn't be giving them. No, you are in that grade. She's get degrees. How do you think I graduated? Next up on Doom Scroll, we're talking about practice. That's right. World Cup champion Abby Womback was on the today's show and shared her thoughts on parents attending their kids sports practices. Queen, I'm in the clip, please. You're not going to practice. Oh, practice. Drop your kids off. If they're young, walk them to the practice, go get in your car, sit in your car, plan your phone, do whatever you want to do. Read a book. No, go for a run. Yeah. But do not go to the practice. This is a time for your kids to play, to not be looking over their shoulders. Also, give parents their life back a little bit. That's true. Come on. Amen. I cannot agree with this more. What are you doing? Don't go to practice. Do not go to practice. The practice is set up to prepare them for game play, right? They're there to play. They're there to sort it out. They're there to learn new skills. They're there to focus on their teammates and the coach. I love the idea of roll up. Drop your kids off. Tell them to have a great practice. If you want to stick around in the parking lot, fine, but it shouldn't be it should be clear to your child that you are not involved in their practice. You know what's cool when they come to you after practice and they get in the car and you can say what did you work on today? What did you learn? How did that go? What did you like the best? It's more ways to talk to your kids. The being there also as if you're what are you going to do pop in and coach to? No, go sit in your car. Cut that out. Don't do that. They're at practice. Let them go and play. Like Abby said, let them go play. That's why they're there. We are not quite to an age yet. Where our kids are doing organized sports without parents. We currently we've started soccer when they do other practices. They've done gymnastics. I during gymnastics, I have tried to sit down so that they can't see me. Why? I didn't like that because it was more of a you're not going to leave me right? We were still able to talk about what was happening afterwards and whenever she looked at me, I was like, salt looking at me, focus on what you're doing. And the one time I actually told her in the car, Hey, if you keep looking over at me during practice, I will go and sit in a place where you can't see me because I'm not involved in your practice. You have to focus on your coach. And last girl, it's been brought to my attention that I was featured in an iconic last culturally sex podcast segment called, I don't think so, honey. I have not seen this yet. So you're seeing my reaction in real time, Queen Emma, the clip, please. I don't think so, honey. Kylie Kelsey is his wife. I thought she was their sister. I thought Kylie Kelsey was Travis and Jason's sister. And here's what happened. So I was leaving a hotel and I walked past this girl and I'm like, oh my god, that's Kylie Kelsey. She's about five six. And I say to Melissa, I'm like, I think that was Kylie Kelsey. She goes, no, no, no, she's tall. And I go right because that family is tall. And I go about my life thinking that that's their sister who has a podcast. That's the so disrespectful towards another podcaster. I don't think so, honey, me. I need to know this. Like pop culture is supposed to be something I know about and something. I should know about other podcasters. Kylie, I'm sorry, disrespect them. Please come on the pod. I have so many thoughts. First of all, the fact that you said my name one time, humbling experience. The fact that you said it multiple times is actually tripping me out. You said my name. What? Okay. Next, I do appreciate that it was not that you think that we look like siblings that I don't think that that point was made anywhere in your minute of your segment, which I can appreciate because that would have freaked me out. I love his desire to not disrespect a fellow podcaster. If we're calling me that, I know that it's to be clear. I know I have a podcast. I would not describe myself as a podcaster because I think that's insulting to other podcasters. I would love to go on last culture east, us. Maybe we can have bow and a mat on NGL sometime. Maybe you guys want to come over here and chat. I will say I think if since Jennifer Lawrence is sitting in your guest seat first of all dragging her into the mess that is that segment with me involved, I'm so sorry to her that we that I that my name or any thoughts about me wasted your time. I would like this to end in an apology for me. I don't think so honey me. I don't think so honey that I should take up any space in your brain and I'm sorry that I wasted it. Also, I would just like to point out that I to be fair, say this all the time, Kylie Kelsey, not a green name. That's not a green name. So I do, I would just like to point out that you thought that I was given that name from birth. Kylie Kelsey. No. No. I'm a MacDevitt that fell face first into the Kelsey last name. So I swiped my way into that one. Oh God, that's bad. All right, that does it for Doom Scroll of the Week. Brought to you by Peloton. Moving on, a brand new addition of places Kylie has no business being recently. I had the pleasure of having absolutely no business hosting a panel for Malala on her finding my way book tour stop in Philly, and it was tremendous. It was incredible. My initial reaction to hearing that Malala wanted me to moderate was disbelief. That's the easiest way to say it. I had some words about it that I mean, full disclosure, I said, are you fun kidding me? You're kidding. You're joking. That's a joke. You're kidding me. I read Malala's first book. I am Malala when I was in college. Our school had a very deeply rooted emphasis on what they called engagement for the common good. And there was a lot of looking at international affairs and what was happening across the globe, and different social justice issues so that we could more find a deeper understanding for them. And Malala was part of those conversations because of her emphasis on women in Arab countries seeking their education. And because of that, when I got the email asking if I would be interested, I could not compute that. So I said yes, and then proceeded to get very, very nervous about making sure that I was going to live up to an expectation that I think comes along with Malala's professionalism, her intelligence, her wit, all of it. And she was incredible. I'm so grateful to Malala. It was so amazing to meet her and her husband and her entire team. I'm so grateful that they thought that I was qualified to do this. It was incredible. And at the end of the day, we got her to say go birds. We got its chance to chat before we went out onto stage. And I did compliment her on her usage of green attire and then proceeded to tell her that if there was ever a lull or a question that was a little too open-ended, feel free to hit them with a go birds. And you'll have them right back on your side. She didn't even need it, obviously, because every time someone asked a question, she was right on it, gave an outstanding response. And we also closed out the show in the only way Philly knows how. That's right, bringing the people together. What talk about Unity? You know, bringing the people together. And all of this, like I said, we got to spend time beforehand backstage. I did spend some of that time convincing her to come to an Eagles game. So now that she's said go birds and practiced an Eagles chant, I feel like she's a show-in to be cheering on the birds with us. And I love that. Thank you to Malala and her team. It was a truly memorable experience that I feel like I had no business participating in, but I am so incredibly grateful that I had that opportunity. So thank you, thank you, thank you. Please check out Malala's new book, Finding My Way. It is definitely something you will not be able to put down. That's it for places. Kylie has no business being coming up. Asia Wilson is joining me, but first, a couple messages from me about my favorite things starting with Oli Pop. A lot of people ask me how I'm able to do this podcast. My new series, F-A-F-O, be a mom to four kids, a wife, a coach, an occasional panel moderator, EAF, vent organizer, and the answer is, guys, I don't know either. I genuinely have no idea what I'm doing. 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I love her vibe. I love the fact she talks about getting that 360 breathing. I love it. Let yourself run, lift, scope, push and go. Explore new Peloton cross training tread plus at one peloton.com. Okay, before I go into your intro, I just want the real ones to know this might be the most impressive list of accolades I've ever read out loud in my life. It is just unreal. Okay, so here we go. She's the four time WMBA League MVP three time champion two time finals MVP seven time all star two time gold medalist and former WNBA rookie of the year. Her record breaking signature shoe sold out in under five minutes. She's a cover star for times 2025. Women of the year. The Las Vegas aces all time scoring leader. And now she's officially not going to lie. Asia Wilson. Welcome to the show. Oh my gosh. I am in the presence of greatness to a degree that I cannot explain. This is incredible. Thank you. First of all, thank you so much. Speaking of your sneakers. Hmm. These are stunning. Thank you. Yeah, I do. I am going to show the shoe because I I'm very excited. Like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding? Look at that. Oh, yeah, the candy coins. Thank you so much for sending me some. I will now make it my mission to, I don't know, ball at all. Come on. You got it. I am. My dad tried really hard. He cemented the hoop in the backyard and everything. Oh, yeah. And I went the wrong direction. I went down instead of up to be fair. I don't know that I'm cool enough to play basketball. Well, you have a ones now. So you are definitely cool enough. Now I'm going to try. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Now I can ball. Yeah, for sure. I'm. I might need you to offer some tips. It's okay, because because as many times as my dad told me to get my hands up, I shot for my chest every time. So there's that we can work on that. We're good. We can perfect. That's an easy fix. Honestly, that's it's easy. I do think I might be decent at defense. Okay. That's what wins games. And I love defense because that was my position in hockey. You know, hockey, I was I was deep day. Okay. So defense, I have deep roots in. I think I could just get my hands up. That's it. And stick with them. Oh, yeah, we're good. We're in there. That's like you have me scared for a moment. You're okay. No, I'm in. I'm I'm five. I'm almost six feet on 5 11. Okay, you're checking out the boxes for me. I'm sold. All you need it with shoes. And you got them. So we're good. Thank you. Now, Don Staley, your former coach at South Carolina came on this show a couple months ago and said that you were and I quote, the best player in the world. And I've been so excited to talk to you about that. How do you react when you see quotes like that from Don? I mean, from her, it's like an eye opener because Coach Taylor really picks and choose when she wants to give compliments. So I have to really like take them with as a grain of salt because they don't really come often a lot. She's normally just giving me the criticism that I need to feel me. But that just means a lot. Honestly, like Coach, Daily believed him mean when no one else did when I didn't. She said in gyms and just watch a little girl that didn't know how to play basketball, just love the sport and love being around her teammates. So it's pretty cool to just like have her say those things because she literally helped mold me into the best player ever in the world. And so it's pretty a big moment for us to share. I think she doesn't understand how much she has been a vital piece into how I am and who I am as a player. So I'm grateful to just hear her say those things because I know I got her nerves a lot for four years. So it's pretty cool. I talked to her about doing TikToks with her players now. Does that surprise you? Yes, because she no, she's gotten soft. It's ridiculous. How soft she's gotten because one, when we were in school, we couldn't have phones on game days. We couldn't like, we had to literally spend a whole day without our phone, like go to classes, like, live a normal life without a phone, like, excuse me. We couldn't have social media. Did I remember her calling me sharman because she was like, Oh, you're just soft like SEC needs to rough you up. And I'm like, now you're charming. These kids got you doing TikToks. You're dancing. She's wiggling those knees of hers. Like, who are you? Like, who is this lady? So yeah, she's gotten a little soft around the edges and she always like, Oh, I'm from North Philly. Like, I don't cry. I don't do any this. And then I look on my phone and I'm like, look at her crying on national television. So yeah, she's charming now. She's the new sharman. Now, as a lifelong Philadelphia resident, I did also talk to Don about the WNBA team in Philly, which we are, of course, getting 2030. So I have five years to do this, but I'm going to start right now. How can I recruit you to Philadelphia? Okay. Yeah, going to have to plug my agent here. Sure, perfect. You just give me some time. I mean, we do, we do, we have so much time. That's always a plus. But yeah, let me, let me get the wills turn in a little bit. Perfect. We can like, we can maybe reconsider some things. It's a fight where Vegas though, you're as good luck with that. That's a fight I actually don't want to get it. Yeah, that's a scary fight right there. I don't know. It does worry me a little bit. But I will tell you just, just so that I can, I can set the scene for you, our food scene, outstanding. Okay. I will tell you the passion from fans in Philadelphia is on match. I've seen that's it's different. It's very different. I will say on the receiving end from visiting teams, negative feedback from people who have joined us. To not to big fans. They're big fans of our fans. Okay. Yeah, we pour it all into it. We really, we love, love people who ride for us. Yes. Well, I love that for the W team that's coming. Yeah, no, we will be showing. And I'm going to play the long game here to get the best in the world to fill it off you. So I will revisit this topic. I'm going to see if I can't connect with Dawn on this. We could get you in an eagle's jersey. I'm just saying. Okay. Yeah. And if I don't, at least I'm going there to play. So I'll at least be there. And I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't know if they're like me, but it's okay. No, no, I'm sorry. Let me get ahead of that right now because it's not good. It's actually very bad. Oh, okay. Yep. We can work. And I say that being one of them. Well, for now, you're in Vegas with the aces. Yes. So I will respect that. And I saw you recently celebrated the championship win. Yes. I tagged along to an eagle Superl Parade. So I've seen some of this stuff up close. How rowdy did it get on that bus? Ooh. Okay. Yeah. It got really ready only because our bus driver was like going 70 miles per hour. Oh, unless I was up there dreaming, but if we were zooming through that parade, like zooming. And so we were really like, try to turn up, but also scared for our lives. Because like I'm having the trophy on my hand. I got my Thanos glove. Like we're trying to look good. Like, you know, we turn it up. All of a sudden, it's like, you like weird hornet downtown. Like our bus driver was like, woo, I love the aces. Zoom. I was like, whoa, we want to still be the aces, honey, when we get off. I would like to just reference an outstanding supercut of you at your championship press conference. Should should we roll the clip? Queen Emma. This is really doing that guys right here. It was really the 23 go on the run. We'll go back to back. Nancy, I'm right you. This is for this is for Becky and for Chelsea. These are the ones that stuck. So I had a question for Chelsea. Chelsea, you get one off here? The parade is October 17, Friday, looking forward to it. I don't know who I want to see. I'm cool. Yeah, the outside will be great. At the bottom. That's in this. Okay. I have so many questions. Be too. Do you remember sitting at the press conference? conference. First of all. Yes. Perfect. Yeah. I do. Okay. Now, did I hear, did I hear correctly someone at the beginning saying, let's get it together? Yeah, me. Um, yeah, that was something that I didn't do. It was good. Get it together. And it's crazy because before every championship parade, I mean, press conference, Chelsea will pull me aside and be like, Asia, let's lock in. And I'm like, I got you like, bro, I got you professionalism at his finest right here because like I've learned, I've learned from the other press conference. First press conference, come me some slack. Never been there before. I was like, yeah, second back to back. Never did it before. Give me some slack. This one said, all right, let me tighten up. But my eyes were not saying that. So, Chelsea was like, put your goggles on when no one's talking to you. And I said, you're right. So in my mind, that'll help. Yeah. I'm like, when I put these goggles on, they do not see me like the camera was supposed to pan like to someone else, but it didn't. It stayed on me. And I'm like, that's not what I asked more. Do you think it had anything to do with the tambourine? The tambourine was just it did the speaking. It was supposed to speak for me once again. I was not. I was off the fork. The only thing that would have made that better if you started checking behind yourself to be like, what are you guys looking at? My go back there. I'm not here. I am invisible. It was outstanding. You did amazing. Thank you. I'm glad I got. The only thing that will make it better is when you go for four and somehow top yourself out somehow. It never be. If you could please, I'm just going to float this one out there. I'm going to knock on wood because I'm a very superstitious person. I don't want to jinx you going going on your mission. Thank you. We'll leave it that broad. I think the tambourine is the perfect segue to a full drum set. I'm just going to throw it out there. I think if someone wheels you in a drum set, that would be outstanding. Yeah. I like that. I like that. I actually like it. Consider it. You instrument it every time. We can manifest it. I just think you need to go bigger, bigger. I think the tambourine did enough. No, I think it did. No, no, no, no. I think it was perfect. But if you guys go for four drum set and you do it, I just think it was the perfect lean into a drum set, a full drum set. I like that idea. Just consider it. Just consider it. Yeah. If anyone needs help getting that taken care of, I'll, I will volunteer. Yes. Perfect. We know we're going to go. We got to. We're here. I just can't wait for someone to be like, who is that woman wheeling in a drum set? It's going to be me. It will be me. Once again, where your goggles, no, no, you're perfect. That's the ticket. My invisibility cloak goggles. No one know you brought it in. It's in this. Who's switching these drums? Wow. Those drums are moving by themselves. That's perfect. I'm doing it. Please do that. Let's do it. And since we're playing clips, I just saw your dance in Jennifer Hudson's spirit tunnel. Yes. Yes. Yes. You killed that. Thank you. You really did. Thank you. That's, that's the first point. Second point. I cannot get over. How many comments are people shocked about you being tall? Yeah. I didn't get that either. I'm like, people not understand one what I do for living. Guys, do you, do you not understand basketball? Do you, are people often surprised at how tall you are? Yes. I actually get that like, when I take pictures of people, they're like, whoa, you're tall. And I'm like, did you think I was going to be your high? Like, did you think I was going to be, especially like men who think I was going to be this good. Yeah. They're like, whoa, you are tall. And it's like, yeah. Like it's very much, also weather down there. Yeah. What did you think? Yeah. I'm always very shocked at how people are shocked that I'm tall. And I'm just like, do I not give tall? Because I like I give tall. Like when you see me play, I don't, it's not small. For sure. So I'm kind of like, where did you guys think I was five, six? I will say I, I am frequently, I am within that interaction of I step to someone like next to someone and they do the same. You're taller than I thought. Yeah. And I'm like, I actually talk about being tall all the time. I literally all the time. I can't tell you how many times I've talked about that whenever I put on a pair of pants, it looks like a flood's coming. Hello. I yell it from the rooftops. Yeah. And still people are like, wow. Right. It's so weird. I'm like, you can really Google my height and it's going to tell you it's not going to lie. Now I'd love to talk to you more about your legendary career. You just won defensive player the year. So I think it's safe to say you can probably defend anyone. But who would you say is the toughest player to go up against? Oh, toughest player to go up against. I'm going to always say, brand of Stewart. I'm always say Stewie. Only because Stewie's just, she's a three level score in the way that she plays the game is so tough to read because she's that skillful. And so sometimes when I'm thinking about just how to guard her, how to make it hard for her, because some players are like, okay, force it to their bad hand. You can live with it. But Stewie is completely different. Like you really have to be able to know how and when she's going to score the basketball. And that's super, super tough. But I love it. I really love competing against Stewie because every time we play against each other, it is like a lot buster. They're like some elite basketball that you're watching. And she makes me think every possession. And I love that because sometimes I get bored mid game just because of just the person that I am. I just get bored easily. But sometimes when you're going to Stewie, you have to keep your head on the swivel because she's very locked up. Yeah. Yeah. She's very guard like. But then also she's tall. So yeah, it's a, you get, get the best of both worlds. Okay. We'll add her to the list of recruiting. Wouldn't that be fun if you guys can play together and go up against her? I'm just going to throw that one out there again. She's circling back a little. Yep. Is there a team or player besides Stewie that you feel you personally have done the most game planning for? I'm trying to think of all the teams. I would say we always do a lot of game planning for the Seattle Storm. I feel like we're, that's a team that we're always pretty even with. Like we're always going to see them in playoffs like no matter what. I feel like we run into them every single year. And then throughout the regular season, it's never really a, but could I ask whooping? They probably whoop. I know they whoop. I asked once. But it's always like just constant, just budding of the heads every single year. It doesn't matter what roster that is there. It's always something. So I think we have to prep extra hard for them. And I think they're also a team that really has like three guards and two posts. Like they really play the, like the structure, the basketball structure, like always the same way. And they're really good. And they have beds at each position. So I would say prepping for them is always like very tough. Well, real ones somehow it's already mid November. 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Now, women's basketball has of course grown exponentially. And like I mentioned in your intro, you're personally popular to the point, your signature Nike shoes, the A1 sold out in under five minutes, five minutes. What was your initial reaction to hearing that? It's crazy because I tried to sleep through, like I wanted to sleep through the alarm. Like I didn't sit on the alarm that day. I was like, I don't want to wake up when the shoe drops. I don't want to see anything about it. And so I purposely like to slip. I just was like, I'm sleeping, I'm sleeping, sleeping. And then finally I like woke up and it was sold out. Of course, I woke up like four minutes after the shoe drop just because I couldn't stand to sleep in. And when I saw it, I literally just started crying only because I couldn't believe it. Like this was something I could honestly say the A1 was one of the most anticipating shoes that we've seen in a long, long time. And we had pop ups like all over the country and like people were camping out and waking up early early like just to get in line. So it gave you the old school like I need to get this shoe type of feel. But when it got online for everyone to really buy, I was so nervous. And so when it sold out, I was just like bawling crying because I could not believe that like finally this shoe is shared with the world. Like finally, everyone can see why it took so long and why we had to work so hard and kept it so close knit. But yeah, I was in tears because I just could not believe that people wanted the A1, which is crazy. But like it's just that feel that you get. It's so funny because it's not even that people wanted it. It's that people were so excited to get it that they did exactly what you're saying the old school shoe drop. Like I need to be there like lying around the block situation. Yes. Yes. That's it. Five minutes just like saying like I literally like I really was just like there's no way. Like there's just no way. And then also for me because pink is my favorite color. Obviously, that's why the first shoe is pink. But I was very worried about like is the consumer going to like pink? Are they going to buy pink? Is it just going to be women? Like are they going to know that this is a shoe for everybody? So there are like a bunch of things going off in my mind to where like my parents had to say Asia just please calm down. Like no one's thinking about what you're thinking right now. Like they're just they're going to want to buy the shoe because they want to buy the shoe point blank. Yes. And like I had to realize that. And then once I got over that, I was like, oh, they do want a pink shoe. I was like, yes, we painted the down pink. Now speaking of the pink shoe, one of the amazing images that I saw of other players wearing the A1s was BAM. Yeah. He wore them in a game back in February before the A1s official release. What did it feel like to be able to see not only your shoe? Yeah. Yeah. But also having the support of someone like that. What did that feel like? It was amazing. Like it was a feeling that I didn't really hit me until I went to the game. I saw him in them because I gave him the shoe like a couple of days before. And I don't ever pressure BAM to I'm not like wear these on this day and rock them. Like I never do that. I'm like, do do your own thing. Like thank you for even having them obviously, but just do your thing. So I didn't know he was going to wear him that game. So when I got to the arena and seeing warm up, I was just like, oh my god. Like it just kind of shook my heart a little bit because I'm just like, dang, like these shoes aren't even out. And the first person to wear them is my boyfriend, like the first person that has really like playing in them. And like on the NBA platform, like this is huge. And I mean, he's set in on meetings. He's been with me every step of the way. So he's a piece of the journey as well. So for him to kind of get a chance to wear it and rock it, obviously it made my heart so happy because support is unwavering. Like it's it's incredible the way that he can constantly show up for me in the midst of everything that he has going on. So it was super cool. I was like, dang, like my shoes on NBA court. Like he got to wear it before me. That was when I was a little salty, but I was like, if anyone, if anyone, it can be if anyone gets a free pass here, that's fine. You can have it. It was like wearing them before me, like, I don't know how I feel about that. He was like, I'm sorry. Like, no, he was trying to play it off and knowing, probably knowing he was like, I'm wearing these tomorrow. Yeah, it was pretty cool. That's incredible. Now, I talked about this recently, but I think relationships between athletes feel like safe space. And I will say this is in like me calling myself an athlete to you is a very generous take. So just let's throw that one out there. But I being with my husband and enjoying like athletics together, enjoying athletics separately, understanding like being coachable and working with a team and all the things that go into like team sport and being an athlete. Do you find that in your own relationship? Yes, absolutely. I think it just it's so like rewarding that after a game or just when you're going through like slumps in your season that you know that your partner fully understands it. Like 100%. There's times where after a game, I just sit in the car and bam, just like, I know. And it's like just sometimes like just to hear that you're like, oh my god, thank you. Like, I don't have to explain myself or I don't have to show up and just be your girlfriend right here on the spot. Like you understand that it's tough right now. It's hard right now. And I may not, I may can't put it into words, but you know exactly what I mean. And I think that is the beautiful thing for with our relationship is just like, they're just the, I know, like I get you. I've been in these moments on my own platform. But now like for you, I definitely know the feeling. And it doesn't get like talked about enough obviously because we don't really share that out loud. But like those moments just athlete to athlete versus just and it can be boyfriend girlfriend. But athlete to athlete is kind of like you're sitting in your own personal locker room and you can just constantly just bounce stuff off. And then we'll be the first person to say, girl, you tripping, like you, you tripping and then ain't got nothing to do with what you're talking about. Like that's on you. And sometimes I need to hear that a lot of times. I need to hear that. So it's pretty cool to have that relationship. Now the other thing, the other side of being with an athlete is the competitive nature. Do you guys find that you compete? Every day, all day. Like it is sickening. It's more fun that way. It is. I'm like, I'm like, dude, I'm just trying to go to the refrigerator. And so yeah, it is, it's very competitive. It is actually scary how competitive it is because we we do escape rooms in our like off time. Just because we just like to keep the wheels going. And sometimes I'm like, Hey, bam, we're on the same team. So like I get that you found that hit first, but we we're on the same team, dude. Like it's okay. We're both trying to get out of here. So and then here I go online. It's all right, but he found that cool. Let me go find one before he. I'm like, oh my god. I'm doing it. Agile. I'm like, really did. Come on. So yeah, it's very competitive. Is there something in particular that you guys are like regularly competitive about. I'll have to say we have our Nintendo switches that we play pretty often and we play the Mario Kart racing game. Sure. And when I tell you that dictates what type of day we're having, it did takes today. Like I know sometimes, bam, I'm like, let me let her win because I'm just trying to get through today. Like I'm just trying. I'm just trying to get through that. Trying to have an easy one today. Let me let her have it. And I think that's what we kind of do on a normal basis. It's just little games just like that that I'm like, yeah, this is my husband and I, I don't know if you've ever played settlers of Catan. Oh no, it sounds good. It's a board game. It's and there's there's a you can play a version on your phone. We're not allowed to play that. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. Bam and I used to play dominoes on our phone. And it's like, I had to delete it. I'm like, yes, let's just give it up. Yeah, there There's a robber in the game that you can put on someone's space so that they no longer get to like get points or like resources. That shit would piss me off. Like it was like he would hand the phone back and he wouldn't look at me. And I'd be like, "You motherfotters." You already know what happened, you're like, "Ooh." He wouldn't look at me. He would just go like this and pass the sideways and I'd be like, "Did you?" "Yeah." "Oh, we're not allowed to, we're legitimately not allowed to play anymore." I get it. I get it. It's that. Yeah. It's not good. And but it's okay. It's what makes the relationship great. I mean, I feel like the competitiveness is like what drives the most in our relationship to be. It keeps us on our toes. No, I'm like, I'm not going down with that of fights. You didn't lose. Exactly. No, it's, it adds a little spark. It does. You know? Back to the W, because the league is growing so much. It's also bringing a lot more revenue. Oh, yeah. And something I did cover on the show previously was you and all the WMBAs, all stars making a statement with me. Pay us what you owe us to. Yes. Yes. Yes. I did mention, when we talked about this on the show, big F-A-F-O energy. And if you don't know what that is, this fuck around find out. It's fuck around find out energy. I like it. It's allowing people who have fucked around to indeed find out. We love that for them. We love that. Absolutely. You've said it before the players are standing on business, which I also love for anyone who isn't up to speed. Can you explain in basic terms what the players want to see accomplished? Yeah, I think the biggest thing that we're trying to see accomplish is, like you said, this has been a big year for us, a big last couple of years for the W. And I think when you looking at social or anything, it's just like, okay, the value is going up, everything's going up. I mean, we can, these TV deals. And so when you're thinking about that, you're like, okay, well, let's talk revenue share. Let's talk about that and how we can implement into our salaries. Because when you look around and you think about businesses, the biggest thing is the revenue share. Like, if this is going up, the players and the product is going up and we're showing up every single day, our wallet should be doing the same. And so when you're talking about just seeing that, I think the league is growing. And so for us, we have to sustain that by just getting equitable compensation. Excuse me, equitable compensation. And I think that is so key. And that's what we're really just talking about is making sure that we're just united and understanding and letting the league understand that we're not going anywhere. We've earned everything that we have been fighting for. We are valuable. And we're going continue to show up as that, as that. And I think that is what makes our league so powerful is that we know the power of our voice and our platform. And we're not going to stop until we get what we deserve. But to see it and then to hear what they're saying and it doesn't add up, I think that's what's going to continue for us to not back down because we see a lot of things going on in the talks of our league and other leagues they're growing. And it's like, well, if they see that we're worth the book, why can't our own week see it? And so it's going to take time as we know and it is taking time right now. But we're going to continue to stand on business for what we believe in and what we deserve. Now, what's the biggest misconception you often hear about this whole conversation? Oh, that we just want to get paid like the guys. I hate when people say that and granted, I'm not a numbers girl. I'm not at all. I'm far from that. But I think the biggest thing is just meeting the fair agreement of what we are discussing. It's never what the NBA is doing. It's never, oh, we want to pay them what they got. No, we understand that that's not how the business works. But we also understand that we're missing within our own business. The revenue share is missing in our own business and in our own checks. So I think people need to stop thinking about that way and just think more so of like, okay, yes, they are saying, pay them what they deserve and what you owe. I think it's so important to not only stand up for this change for you guys, but also it's showing young women that as a unit of the women representing the W that you guys are able to say, no, we're not going to accept less. I think it's crazy that the reports are coming out to show, like you said, the TV deals and the different things that are coming in at a significantly higher level, exponentially higher level than they have been in the past with the previous deal. And so to see that they're not willing to increase those percentages for you guys is absolutely insane. Yeah. And it is. And I think also people don't understand is like we're working to get a CPA that's not just necessarily for the ones that are planning it now. We're talking about the ones that are coming after us, like making sure that they have, they don't have to go through what we're going through. And I think people don't understand that. And yes, we talk about salary, but at the same time, just having a good workspace to play in. Like a lot of teams don't even have practice facilities. And it's just like, I'm blessed enough, oh my goodness, I know I'm blessed enough to have an owner and a franchise that are really player forward. They're like, what do they need? And we were the first, yeah, I think we were the one of the first W and B 18 to have a practice facility. And people wonder, oh, what makes the ace is great? And why? Why are they so great? They're constantly in the conversations, because we have exactly what we need. And we don't have to come into work thinking and wondering, oh, is this going to work? But we're now have to drive and share this court with people like, no, like we don't have that problem. And so now it's kind of like making others owners or anyone else, like, put your money where your mouth is and give us what we need. Not, yes, what we deserve, but what we need. And so yeah, we, there's a lot of work that needs to be done. But yeah, I think that's what people really also don't understand is like, yes, we're fighting now, but it's not just fighting for us. And I am, I'm sick. I'm fine for the young athletes that's coming up behind me. I also think that's so important to acknowledge the fact that the leadership that have the ability to maybe make sure that there is a specific practice facility or to make sure that the players have everything that they need, that they have bought into the W in a way that they have put a, a level of importance, right, on this league and the women in it. And so it is exactly what you're saying. Put the money where your mouth is support these athletes, the way that you as ownership or as leadership in this league should be prioritizing the athletes. Absolutely 100% agree. I cannot thank you enough for coming on. Thank you. It has been an absolute pleasure to get to talk to you. And I always like to say this to women who are paving the way I, with someone, as someone who has four daughters in their house, I am so grateful that they have someone like you to look up to and to see how hard you are working, your drive, your dedication to your sport, the way that you sort of present yourself, even when it's having fun in a press conference, I love that those are the examples that my girls have out in the world, so I really appreciate you and everything that you're doing. Thank you so much. You're amazing too. You are unapologetically you and we need a lot more women like that in this world to not be afraid to be that way. And honestly, everybody I see of you, I'm like, that's right, like I can't help myself. I'm like, that's right, like stand on it. So I'm a huge fan and I can't thank you enough for just being you. Like I love that. Like you are truly you and we don't see a lot of people being that in these faces, so thank you so much. No, thank you and I can't wait to see you and Philly, hopefully it's representing them, but you never know, at least you know, will be I'll be there, whether I'm on that side or not, at least I'm there in the summer. And I apologize ahead of time. And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Asia on my YouTube channel on more shit Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode, follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media. Watch my first episode of FAFO if you haven't already and if you have, watch it again. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, Not Gonna Lie is a way of original brought to you by Oli Pop. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in. (upbeat music)