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I'm your host Keefer Kamehni and with me today is voice actor, ASMR artist and content creator Kujeeva. Or Zinoum, Jesse. Hello. So, for the people who don't know who you are, can you tell us a little bit about what it is that you do? Of course, I'm a contécutor on the YouTube platform, I'm part of the VA community or ASMR community same thing. There's a bunch of other channels like me out there. I do videos where I basically play an anime character or anything like I do voice acting specifically, I play personalities and then people seem to really enjoy them. I try my best to just basically do a good job at playing the character I play. I try to be as immersed as I can and the viewer seems to be super immersed too, they enjoy them. Most of the time it's romantic based because I don't know, people really enjoy those, I guess. It's like drama cities, I guess. I'm known in the community because I have quite a lot of fat girls, I guess you could say I don't know, I have a whatever. I just like doing voice acting, I like doing anime, I'm a big weeb. So it really plays off in my favor and people really enjoy them. Yeah, I'm just a guy. So what got you into voice acting the first place? Is it something you liked as a kid? You said you're a weeb, so did you really like dubs and voice over an anime or just cartoons in general? What got you into that field? That's a good question. There's a lot of different reasons why. But it is true that I started watching anime very young, I was like 7 years old. My first one was actually like a horror one. I will remember that my whole life. It wasn't dubbed too. I was with my uncle and we were watching Degreyman the first episode. If you don't know what it is, just look it up. Just watch the first episode of Degreyman and then put yourself as a 7 year old watching that. And it wasn't dubbed and I will remember that my whole life because it in a way traumatized me but in a really good way because I was like, oh damn, this is fucked up, I guess. Or sorry, it screwed up. That's okay. Dematization. I like the performance of the voice actors and that. It was pretty good. It has to do with that but also with the fact that I really love characters. There are some characters. I would read books all the time when I was younger and I just love the characters and I was like, I wonder how they would sound. I wonder how they would act. I can read them but I wonder how they would respond or just act and just, you know, and I just love acting a lot. I would watch a lot of movies. And I started watching a lot of English movies too when I was younger. Well, I'm a French Canadian. I speak French but so I would watch a lot of movies in French back in the day but then I started watching movies in English. I was like, oh, this is so cool. And I just love acting so much. It built up from there of movies and anime of course is really a big part of a quen today as well. But I just, you know, just just, just, just video game characters as well that just don't talk. Like for example, Link, right from Zelda? He doesn't talk. He doesn't really have a personality. This personality is the player. You do what you want. You do as you perceive them, you know? And that was also not a big thing why I wanted to do voice acting too. I was like, you know what? How do I, how would I play Link? How would he sound like? What would be his personality? That was interesting to me. So that's why I made like a few Link videos on my channel too. But I just really like bringing up to life characters that either already exist or me coming up with, or me coming up with how I would give life to this character or just me building a character from the ground and like, or just play personality. And I just wanted to give a good performance. And that's just all I really care about is the performance and the viewer feeling immersed into what they are listening to or what they are being immersed into really. That's what I care about. Well, I've worked with you a long time ago of voice acting before and at that point still you're just like a really fantastic actor. But thank you. Thank you. That's really, that's really charming. But recently, fun fact that you're saying that our editor at the time Ben who I'm still very good friends with, he just recently gave me back the deaf note episodes up to three the three episodes. Can you give a brief summary about what it is we're talking about for basically all the people listening because no one knows what it is. It disappeared off the face of the earth quite a while ago. Oh yes it did, but I still got the files. I got them in my computer right now. I don't know if I should have pulled them one day, but I don't know. I guess I'll just mute the copyright music or something. So back in 2015 or 2014 around that time, that was my first experience as a voice actor. It was terrible. Oh my god. That was so bad. You know, Keith here is like really, you know, he's really, he's being a sweetheart right now by saying that I was good, but damn, I was bad because I listened to it recently with my girlfriend and she was cringing the entire time. So was I, don't worry. But I still have the roasted glasses on from that because I don't remember what any of it sounds like. I just remember being really impressed with it at the time being like, wow, this sounds really professional. We can be famous from this one. Oh boy, that's sweet. Yeah, I was bad. So basically we did a deaf note of bridge where like at the time of course 2014, 2015 was the age of a bridge on YouTube. Definitely. It was huge on YouTube. It was like a big thing because copyright laws were not that strict back then and people could be creative with it. Obviously nowadays there's not a lot of the bridge series because they get screwed over by copyright laws on YouTube now. It's almost impossible to get away with one episode of a bridge without like a company saying no, you can't do that and give you a strike and you're like, okay, well, I guess I'm screwed. I can't do anything. So back in the day, of course, it would be way more open to creators. So I was so interested in that because obviously Team 4 Star was like out there with Dragon Ball Z, a bridge and it was huge. I loved it. I was hilarious. And other bridge series too were really great. And I was like, you know what, I want to make one and I want to play a character. That sounds really fun and just make people laugh. And I guess feel immersed into this like version of this character that I'm giving. That's what I wanted to do. So we did that for like three episodes and it was very amateur, very, very amateur actually. But my friend Ben at the time, I still stand by that. He is an amazing editor. He was only 14 years old and he gave so many good edits in that and the show was really great. But whatever. And I had a really bad mic at the time. It was like a headset mic. I think it was by like Matt Katz or something. Now they're bankrupt. I think they're bankrupt now. But they made like headsets. It was okay quality actually. You'd be surprised. It was pretty alright. But the quality was alright. So I was like, I'm going to use this script. And Ben had like, you had a guitar hero. Mike, that's what we would use for recording most of the time. It was really funny. What's funny, I still actually used that for a long time. When I first started doing YouTube, I first started like recording my voice for anything. I used my guitar here on Mike. Back then I didn't know the difference between like a microphone from a music studio or like a microphone I get from a guitar hero world tour for Xbox. So I was like, oh yeah, I'll plug this. This sounds great, whatever. But yeah, eventually I found Jesse and Ben on some like voice actors for them. Yeah. And I wanted to be a voice actor. And I had just gotten my nice new USB microphone for a whole whopping $30 from Best Buy or something. And I was like, let's try it out. Let's do some voice acting. And they cast me as my, I think, 15 year old self as the character in Death Note lights dad. Lights dad? I think he's like, is 50s, 40s? Yeah. So there's just think of this 15 year old boy, barely hit puberty. And he's trying to play a 50 year old man. I definitely remember being a little strenuous in my voice. It didn't sound very convincing. It's pretty funny though. It was, but it was pretty entertaining. Funny thing though, I remember watching it again like two months ago. And I was like, damn, Keith was pretty good. I was, I was shit though. I was like, oh my god, this is terrible. But I forgot about some people that worked with us on it. I was like, oh my god, right. There was this guy that just played this person. And that's it. I completely forgot about them. Yeah, there were like a bunch of other people. I think there was this girl that played like the little sister of. light she was like getting married while we were recording the third episode or something I was like crazy. Yeah, I remember she was one of the people I met on YouTube and she was she really liked anime and she voice acted in like an RPG maker game at the time and I was like oh she did a really good job let's get her on a little did I know she didn't record it at home she got sent to a studio so she didn't have a microphone at home so when she recorded she was doing a really good job fun like a really bad microphone so it's like oh bummed me out yeah it was a weird group of people like just you would not expect just a bunch of strangers gathering together just to do this weird project it was really weird that girl I think she was like in her 20s and then like you had like 15 year olds 14 year olds 17 year olds grown adults it was it was weird but hey it was a really good experience though it was it was my first voice acting experience and I got to bring a character to how I perceive them if it wasn't a joke so like obviously I just exaggerated how he is and I still do through this day I think it's hilarious to bring the edginess out into like hey look I'm stupid actually because I'm super super edg and I have a really edgy ideology too but that was the first experience I had as a voice acting it was really cool so after working on the death note of bridged obviously now you work in ASMR what was the kind of bridge between that why did you decide on doing mostly ASMR based content over just continuing doing random voice acting gigs or bridged series for a very long time I didn't want to do any kind of content because I didn't have the equipment for it and I knew that that would not give me anywhere because like it or not if you're scuffing and you don't have any good equipment you're not really gonna go anywhere like if you want to do gaming you have a terrible PC it's it's gonna be really hard to get something out there so imagine doing voice acting if you have a potato microphone it's not gonna get you anywhere so that's the first thing I knew that I needed to upgrade before I do any kind of content because at first I was like okay I'm gonna do VA stuff I love voice acting so you know the Swarge Nigger story where you said that he came in the United States for like with like I think it was Swarge Nigger for like two dollars he only had two dollars now he's like a super fucking actor yeah my story is how I had nothing and I was like 15 16 and I saved all of my money not through video games not for a console but for a microphone and a power supply with a scissor arm stand and all of that I saved all my money from Christmas and my birthday to buy that equipment because I wanted to invest in my passion instead of just you know I could have just bought a ps4 at a time and say fuck it you know but I didn't I bought a microphone and when I bought my microphone I was like I need to make videos at the time I had no idea what ASMR was because nobody knew it started like it was very strong in like 2017 that's when it blew up for sure that's when I started funny enough but I had no idea what it was I had I just I had no idea but I remember like I saw this video what it wasn't my sorry it wasn't my recommended it was a chick who played as I don't remember what it was I know her name though she played as a I think an anime character or I think it was a Yendrit video I can't remember or sir it was a serial killer video I was like oh this chick is real playing as a serial killer I'm interested in that so I watched that was like oh man she's actually really good damn she's a good actress I enjoyed that and I thought that I ASMR was not like the whole like oh tingles tingles and shit like that I thought it was just like immersion and like you talking to not not talking but the character speaks to you the viewer like you feel like you're in it so I really like the immersion part of it of ASMR I was like oh damn this is really cool you know I felt like closer to the character I guess you could say or I felt like you know the character was talking to me I felt like part of the video you know so I really like that aspect so I was like oh damn I want to make more of that so I was like oh man I want to do that it sounds cool so I got I got heavily inspired from her by doing the channel she's pretty much the reason why I made a channel my first video was a French butler because I was like oh what am I good at that not a lot of people could do you know because that's the first thing that came to my mind when I was gonna make a video I was like I can't do the same thing everyone did I need to make something that people would enjoy that I am specialized in that I know that I could do better than anyone else not at anyone else but you know like I could do a better job than most people what am I good at that's the first thing I came to my mind I was like I'm gonna make a French accent video because I speak French because that's part of my kit my starter pack I started with that not a lot of people can do that so I'm gonna bring something different on the table something that is rarer like there's more rare on the table so people can enjoy it I'm gonna get you know that's that's the first thought I had so I did my first video where it was just me hitting recording I had like a $20 mic but like the whole kit cost me like a hundred sixteen because the power supply the scissor I'm standing the xLR cables all that so I was 17 it was I think it was a Wednesday night I had school the next morning it was like nine in the afternoon at like no 9 p.m so I just started recording and I'm just like I had no script nothing no idea what I was gonna do nothing at all I had no plans it's okay play this character French butler whatever right so I guess try to give it anime kind of sound and I was okay I'm gonna do this all of it was unscripted all of it was not like you know I just did what you call that yeah damn I'm losing my bucket and lose my improv thank you I can't believe it forgot that word yeah all of it was a problem the whole thing all in brov and I just I just kind of put it together like a Frankenstein monster and some of it doesn't really make any sense because some of the lines I said before or not the end and the end are now in the beginning weird weird Frankenstein monster and I put all of that together I was like okay boom released got a little bit of attention I was happy about it I think I got like a hundred views I was like holy crap damn that's insane and then immediately after breath of the wild was gonna come out soon or it came out and it was huge I was like oh I want to do a link video I'll play link that sounds cool because he doesn't have a voice he doesn't have a personality I want to give him the one my voice doesn't sound too far off from what he would sound like I think that's what I thought at the time and I was like I'm gonna do that I play link and then I released it a bit of attention and then I played a Yendida I think it was the Yendida before but I don't remember and I did a Yendida video because what's so what's so interesting about Yendida is is I know it's like a G now and I understand like it's fucked up right the real Yendida's RL are not good I'm not saying otherwise it's it's no don't be a Yendida it's fucked up however in fiction it's fine in my opinion because it's interesting and it's not real that's the point of it it's exaggerating it's like an avalan in a movie it's like you don't condone their behavior but it's interesting to watch him do it today exactly and it's interesting especially when you're the subject you're you're you're the main focus the viewer so you're as immersed as you could be so I wanted to play Yendida because I always wanted to do a crazy character his mental state is is changing over the time and I want to really do that and give that impression on the viewer and of course the whole point of I'm a disgusting person yet I love you so much and that this is how I think I give love to you and affection is really interesting to me because they do exist people like that it's interesting it's interesting to me so I was like okay I'm gonna do that and I did people really enjoy that it blew up that video absolutely blew up and like and one day I just had like two K subscribers in a day it was insane absolutely crazy I like I woke up when I was like oh my god it all of that in one night it was insane it was crazy they really loved it uh and keep it my ASL I was like at its peak at a time it was crazy big and I was just I just got really lucky there's no way that's where I was like okay people really enjoy this I can voice act and people enjoy them and I enjoy myself playing those characters too that's great so I kept doing that for a very long time and here I am and I still here you are I quit for a while but I'm back I guess he's back everybody I guess so well I quit because uh it's a funny story right I told you about it but I quit originally because I I was on a burnout I was I was burnt out I I like I kept like releasing videos all the time and they would get demonetized and I would get no profit out of my work and that was really bothering me because working on a video is probably like nine to ten hours like the whole thing the whole process because I I know a lot of um I guess I'm gonna run a little bit a lot of uh voice actors that do the same thing as me like I'd say at least 70% don't make their own scripts they don't even edit themselves either I know there's like bigger ones than me out there they don't even do their scripts they don't even edit their own videos all they do is push recording and then they're like okay editor you do the rest that's it it's and they they they are provided scripts by their fans most of the time and I'm against that idea I'm against that ideology 100% because in my opinion if you want to do a voice acting video if you want to build a character if you want to interact like if if you want to play as a character the best way to do it is you write your own lines by how you believe the character would say things you know what I mean it's like it feels like you're playing someone else's character by that by their ideology and it feels wrong I don't like that so I've always made my own scripts sometimes I've been helped by my girlfriend she helps me sometimes with some scripts because sometimes it gets really tiring but she does she never does the whole thing by herself. I'll see you next time. always help here and there. I probably do like 60% she does like 40% sometimes like at least on three videos I think in total. I've made like 60 videos I think if like if not 65 something like that and then all of them at least three videos she's helped me with and that's it and nothing more than that. But every single video I do the script I record I edit I do everything I will never let someone else do it for me because it's it's lazy it doesn't feel like if I did that it would not feel like it's my video anymore it would feel like it's someone else's. I'm not saying that no one should have their own like editor you know no one should have editors to edit the videos for them that's all I'm saying like scripting come on dude at least do it by yourself that's the least you could do right because the fun of it for me was always I play my own character because I wrote about the character and I'm bringing the character I created to life and I want to share it how do you guys like that you guys enjoy that did you am I am I good at doing character to build development you know kind of kind of stuff like that it's bringing a character to life and I love doing that it's fun if someone else was to do it for me I would not enjoy it hmm it's a lot of it being your own creation right like with working with like actors in general when they work on a screen or just character they're usually working with the screenwriter on well I think the actor would probably sorry I think the character would probably do this or I think this is how they would react because if you're the one voicing the character bring it to life you have to have some involvement in how they how they work because if not you're just kind of not really acting you're just reading it's not you anymore it's it's them that's what they want it's not you and it's it's something I've like something also been debating a lot on because I've been asked a lot like hey could you how do I start a channel would you have any tips and stuff advices I'm like on voice acting most people ask me advice on voice acting and I always say no I don't I don't have any tips I don't I'm not a professor I'm not a teacher I don't know anything about voice acting I was never taught anything about voice acting I was never told anything I just starting doing what I do nothing else I was I never had classes and the reason why I don't give any tips either is because I don't want to give you one of mine because I'm not in a good position to give you advice I'm not I'm not qualified for that and I always answer this to I say however I can give you tips on YouTube YouTube tips or editing tips and what software you should use and how with videos you should make and what you think should be out there and what you think should not be would not be relevant to people is unfortunately as it is it's it's always a fight on do I want to be creative and do what I want like tell a story by how I like it or give something that the viewers want because it's always a fight between that is like it or not that's like every YouTuber out there you you want to give something that you want to give but you got to balance it with what the viewers want if you're gaming channel and you suddenly start doing like I don't know vlogs not a lot of people will care unfortunately for you because they didn't subscribe for you they didn't start sorry they didn't subscribe to you for that they subscribe to you because you do gaming you know so if I started doing like what I want on my channel I can understand why people not watch it or not like it is because they didn't subscribe for that or if I made a whole like a roleplay video about me playing a character that you know let's say I played snake right like what if situation I please snake from Metal Gear Solid in the video Metal Gear Solid ASMR roleplay snake you know I would understand why no one would give a shit about it because it's what I want it's what I wanted to do and not a lot of people shared the the passion they have for Metal Gear like I do so it's understandable that it was a video for me and not a video for them and of course you want to succeed on YouTube as well so you always got to balance what do I want to do that they also want and if like and of course if you end up not doing what you want and you end up doing what they want you're gonna get burnt out and you're gonna end up not liking what you do like I did having these problems with the YouTube platform if you ever thought about branching off of it and doing whether it's a professional voiceover work or working on other projects that are just outside of YouTube in general is that something that's ever interested you or something you've done before every single content creator on YouTube right now as I'm sure at least mostly gaming and stuff I'm sure everyone has thought of moving to Twitch or branching after Twitch and that's a really good platform too I am on Twitch actually yes but I have like two K followers on Twitch I think something like that now I don't really I haven't been on it in like three weeks now I don't really stream on it I'm pretty late I'm pretty lazy because I get like I don't get a lot of viewers obviously because they didn't subscribe to me on YouTube for gaming to subscribe to me because I do character voice acting and I don't know how to branch that off because I do audio specifically it's very hard to do so imagine like branching off from like doing audio to like something like to it or something it doesn't work unless you're like on soundcloud or something but I I don't like soundcloud so I don't want to branch off on that either it sounds weird it doesn't I'm not comfortable with it I'm just comfortable on YouTube when I do voice acting and when I do any kind of project that's fine but I've been on casting call club before I've tried out I tried that a little bit it's never good I never see like any good like worth while project on CCC well CCC is a casting call club obviously is is very community based but unfortunately of course again I don't really blame CCC because the copyright laws are really bad on YouTube right now so it's very difficult to start a project from scratch I guess if you make a video game yeah but those threads on CCC are always bombarded and it's not even the worthwhile because the guys who actually do audition on that on those threads are probably like people that have like 50 other projects on their belt you know what I mean it's like okay if you're new you're just gonna eat shit like I can't just go in there and throw my YouTube channel be like hey guys look I'm flexing look at my 70 72k subscribers I can do that that's just scummy I wouldn't do that and I don't know I don't really have any kind of experience on other than just me doing YouTube videos as a voice actor I can't just be like hey guys I'm the ultimate actor look at me have all these subs that's that's fucked up I had this I guess I'll share a story I did audition for one thing because my friend Nick showed me a thread about these people that were doing automagame which is like you know it's a reversed RM automagame so it's a girl as the protagonist and then she has multiple love interests it was Naname game and the developer was a Japanese woman so I was interested in that so I joined with this cord and I started talking to the creator which is of course again a Japanese woman who speak pretty good English and she was like oh why are you interested I was like oh because I I don't know I thought I would really fit well in your game because it looks like something I could do very easily because I do romantic based videos a lot and I play characters might be you might be interested in what I do okay what did you work on well I mean I make I make YouTube videos you want to see my channel she was like oh yeah sure I should on my channel but I will never forget this that was probably one of the most embarrassing things I've ever been told in my life and I will like that's when like it snapped in me I was like oh my god is that really what people think of me she said oh you make porn it broke me into like five billion pieces my ego was gone my pride was gone I had nothing was like that that was the most hurtful thing I've ever heard in my life as a contender you make porn that's when I was like why would like the first thought was no I don't why would she think that I don't understand how she could think that and then I was like oh it's probably because she knows because she told me she knows what ASMR is and like most of the time it's always like erotic I was like yeah I'm against that I'm not I'm not part of that community though but she kept like jokingly say that I make porn like I felt super super insulted that's like I'm not like a sensitive person in general I don't get insulted that easily but that broke me so bad I felt awful I was like really because I started wondering is that really what people think of me like they just think I make porn is that it am I am I just like I just I just make audio porn no I don't I know that for effect because I just don't I think that's definitely a problem with with ASMR as a whole there's a big stigma around it because when I first before even knew it was I thought oh it seems like some people say oh it makes you feel tingly and stuff okay it's maybe it's relaxing stuff and then I see a lot of the you know ASMR that gets on trending it's you know it's a bit sexualized and then to get some of it gets pretty niche and fetishy so there's a stigma around ASMR and then like voice it's especially your ASMR which is more voice acting than making tingly noises it's it's hard to you know differentiate yeah to be honest ASMR should not really be in the title to be enough but it's just because I can't really put it in any other category because it's not it's not loud enough to be voice acting it's not entertaining enough to be voice acting it's like it's just it's quiet soothing enough to be relaxing in my opinion so that's why I put it as ASMR and I dare anyone to to fucking tell me to put it in any other and any other category because I don't see any other category that would fit better I don't I don't whisper I don't do tingle stuff I don't like do triggers or anything like that you don't cut straws with scissors yeah I don't want to see in a lot it's like that like what yeah true I to be honest I did that once that was like in my first or second year of the video that was like over a year ago but that's the only time I did that I don't do anything else it's just immersion that's what I do I try to be to give the viewer immersion that that to me is the ASMR I guess I don't know I don't have any explanation through it other than that yeah ASMR is very sexualized now it's actually so bad I think it's because the contributors are seen as like idols more than you know what I mean it's like I'm an idol look guys I'm an eboy and I make anime voices or the girls are more seen as e-girls you know it's more like an or idols kind of thing I don't think it's weird more than just like you know hey guys I sound good that's my thing I sound good and I play and I play character well for like I don't know gamers it's like oh guys I'm funny I'm entertaining right they're more entertainers than e-boys or anything else you know for example C dog right he's very much he's a mix of both actually it's weird I he's like a dream like to me at least to what I would want to be because he does VA stuff by the same time he does entertaining stuff and he's like really good at it and he's successful I want to be that but it's gonna be really hard to branch off of that so it's a big jump in the big gamble and I refuse to take it because I've built this off way too much you know I mean I put way too much effort into this so I can't just make the jump it's it's it's so scary making the jump or branching off is is terrifying especially if you want to abandon what's behind it's terrifying I would I'm super glad and thankful that you know I was welcome back when I came back on my channel and ever since I quit back I came back in March and March I like 52k now I'm back at 71 or 2k I forgot many I have I think it's 72k I got again like 20k and like three months which is insane absolutely crazy I never got this many subs in a short amount of time if not I'm doing way better than before yeah so what's it been like you so you have this audience of like 70k plus people it's gotta be kind of a roller coaster dealing with fans because I'm sure there's some that are super chill great to talk to and then there's some that are a little over the edge as far as vandries and things like that uh and you have a discord so and you also social media see you reach out with people what's it like interacting with that massive amount of people and you know what have been some of the high some of the lows with dealing with a fan base that is a booming okay so uh at first when you start it's always like this you're you're super excited when you start and you're like oh my god this is amazing I love the attention obviously and the love that I'm getting and then you know you're you're not that you're not that that big yet so you're enjoying it you're like oh man that's really cool people enjoy my content they tell me that they love it that's really cool it feels it feels good it feels thank you that feels like you know it's warm to the heart to the heart you know it's it's really uh it feels really good and then over the time of course when you get bigger you don't really learn what I call the spotlight this is a term I use I don't know if anyone else uses it this is a term I use for uh basically you're the big guy content creator and no matter what you do there's some people that are gonna look on you on this stage they were gonna look at you constantly what you do what you say because you're always on this stage and you have this spotlight on you so no matter what I say if I'm shit posting if I'm talking if I'm typing anything in a chat if I'm just like you know my discord server just hanging out with people there's always people that will look at me no matter what because I have this spotlight on me and I gotta be careful what I say or what I do or anything like that because it could be taking out a context it could just be used for to hate me just because I have an opinion that they don't agree with they will use it against me for example if I say I don't like a movie and they really love that movie it could just simply say I fuck you could you your piece of shit and just hate me from there it's insane some people really don't need a lot just to hate someone you would be you would be amazed I learned that the hard way if I had if I dare to have any opinion people will say that I use my platform to spread my opinions to fucking brainwash people people will say that definitely so it's something that I try not to show too much when I'm interacting with my community or when I'm interacting with fans I can't have an opinion or at least if I do it can't be something I guess too heavy I guess on anything kind of subject especially not politics you do not want to have a political opinion you don't because the second you do like at least half your fans will not agree with what you say or with the way you perceive it or whatever and they'll just say fuck you could you just because you have a different political belief than I do I will now hate you I will now cast you away or you know I will think you're an asshole now do you find it stressful having to balance your personal life and then doing stuff with the community like this do you ever feel like you wish you could take a step back or just kind of separate yourself from the community or do you feel like it's an important part of you know being a content creator and having that audience it's always essential for a content creator no matter who you are no matter what content you make never get too close I'm not saying you shouldn't be like you know you shouldn't accept like I'm not saying like you should never be close to your fans I'm saying that don't be too close it's actually gonna hurt you so bad you're gonna feel like you have no privacy anymore like when your fans know everything about you and they spread it around and you feel like you have no like you know privacy anymore it's awful don't do that thankfully I've never done anything like that that's why I refuse to show what I look like that's why I refuse to tell my fans anything about my personal life like you know like for example like you know whatever my political beliefs is religion good or bad and all that stuff I don't talk about that I just meme around I like to talk about anime which anime do I like oh cool nice what I think about voice acting my favorite movies well I think this movie's not that great my different opinions on that that's fine but I don't talk about I don't talk about for example I have a girlfriend right and there's some people that really don't like my girlfriend just because she's my girlfriend and that pisses me off I had an episode about that on Twitter I'm sure you saw that maybe but there's some people that legit like bash to my girlfriend because she's my girlfriend and they started to like share her Instagram around and be like how has she so ugly and shit yeah that's toxic I hate that I had that episode that was really disgusting and that's another thing why I don't share about my personal life to other people is because they're free to do really toxic stuff like that and I don't agree with that at all it's stressful yeah especially when I see people like threatening me with doxing me because I've had that before and that's really scary there was a guy that threatened to dox me because he got my ip or something or whatever I don't know how he got it but he got it he had a house that was three streets away from where I live so first of all scary a shit right I plead the big IQ man right there because I made him believe that it was actually my house because I was like begging I was fake begging to him saying like oh please don't do that it was actually not my house but I wanted to make him believe that it was it's pretty fucking scary though he still got like my region which I don't know how he got it but he threatened to dox me and just post my private information around and he got three streets away really stressed out I remember once I got like a DM on discord about a girl saying like where I was at and I was like what you talking about and no idea what this was they were just saying where you at I'm at the airport and they said a picture of them at the airport was like what what the hell and they said like what you said you would be here what I got creep the fuck out and she said she was like in the airport a Montreal was like oh my god hell no like I had a stalker and that was really fucking scary I know I'm just like going like through it really fast but I'm just telling you to the art because there's way more details but whatever they're not important they're just like build up build up to the main point yeah someone showed up in your province and they were not invited scary a shit I was terrified and same thing when I got doxed it was really bad well not I didn't technically get doxed but oh my close to being doxed the funniest part is I'll never forget this because I was like okay what would the desperate person do in this situation oh cold the police he was like okay good day and he left any fucking blocked me on discord and he never came back after I mentioned the police the second I mentioned the police he pushed out that was great I was like really so does it comes into the real world it gets a little too real for them they're like yep no I'm not committed enough nah he's just ASMR man fuck no but you know yeah it's true though that you can't be too close to your community although as they're gonna they're gonna feel like they are super close to you and that's where like a close idea they feel entitled to your privacy and that's that's where someone should never cross that's some that's something you should never cross never well closing on a lighter note you attended film school in the past and we were just talking about the before I started recording but I guess the last question for you is why did you choose to go to film school kind of obviously love movies but is that something you ever wanted to tie your voice acting experience and your storytelling into yeah I would agree with that it's you got it on point actually it's exactly why I went to film school I love movies and it's all about acting and praising act you know you praise the movie for it's good acting for it's good camera shots for delivering like even the camera shots even the position of the camera is character development believe it or not just anything like that gives you exactly what the character is like or what the character sees what the character what's what the character's environment is and it's very very important to know like anything like that just shots just camera placements is it's character development it's part of it no matter what you do because it's storytelling through the angle of it you know what I mean I'm probably sound woke as fuck right now but you know what I mean it's just it's part of it so it was I just really wanted to take film school because I wanted to do either acting or voice acting and that was perfect for me and it it really made me understand more about characters and how you tell a story and how you immerse the person and the viewer into the movie it's I learned a bunch of stuff that I'm really glad I learned in my four months at film school it was very very valuable for any actor or any voice actor you know even if it's not audio it's completely fine to learn it's very useful to me every day I there's some there's some movies that you don't notice but shots like especially standing Stanley Kubrick movies. all about every scene, every shot is about what the character is feeling or what's going on and what I want the viewer to feel through it. It's all about that. Almost every movie is all about that and it's very important for acting. That's why I really enjoyed going to film school and I don't regret it at all. Even if I dropped out, I don't regret it. It was very, very useful. I'm very grateful for it. Do you see yourself going back in the future? I would. I would go back if I didn't have the same issues I had before, which is two-time, it was too far away and it cost me too much money to travel there and it cost me too much time to go there too. So yeah, if I could, I would definitely take it again. It was very good. Very good experience for me. But if the opportunity comes if I have time, money to do so, definitely, definitely. But for right now, doing what I do right now, YouTube, because I don't have a part-time job, this is my part-time job, doing content on YouTube is my job right now. It's my student job, I guess, until I go back to school again. Right now, I feel very lucky to have what I have right now, to be a contigator, to sit on my ass every day on my computer and just make videos and stuff. I feel very lucky to have that as my part-time job, because I have friends that actually have real jobs. They work at McDonald's, they work at restaurants, waitress, waiter, McDonald's, whatever. They work, they have actual real part-time jobs. And they tell me about how they hate it, how they're like, "Oh God, I gotta go to work again." I'm like, "Oh, I gotta sit on my ass and make YouTube videos." And I'm very grateful for it every single day. However, here's the thing, they have an advantage that they do not have. Their money is consistent, mine is not. You can have like a gas, but you have no idea. It's never the same, it's never consistent. And that's why I don't think I'm going to do this rubber, but if I do, I guess I achieved the dream. I guess it's been a dream since I was like 10 to make YouTube videos and be a YouTuber, like most Z generation, you know, like you and I and everyone our age are even younger than that. It's a big dream to do what your passion is and make money from it and spread it to people and enjoy it. And I'm very grateful that I've succeeded to be where I am to this day. And I know that I will go further than this, at least I believe I will. And I don't know where it's gonna take me, but it's not like I had any ideas to begin with. It's been a pleasure talking with you. Thank you very much. It's been some really great interesting stories for sure, especially hearing about your little odd-style experience. But I guess before we close out, yeah, the floor is yours, anything you want to promote, you want to give a last word of advice to everybody listening, it's all you. Subscribe to Keef and Neon Carnival, really cool guys, cool guys. They're putting way too much effort into the videos, actually blows my mind how they're devoted into their work. It's amazing to me. And that blows my mind even more is that they don't even get that much attention, compared to what they should actually deserve. That's how I came into contact with them again. And I highly suggest you watching their content. They put a lot of effort into it. They invest so much money into what they do. It's insane and blows my mind. And it makes me wish that I was as devoted as they are into my work, but I cannot. Because I don't know. They're just that passionate into what they do. And it's very admirable to see and watch. Can't do this. You're making me blush. You're making me embarrassed. Oh, care. You take it. And I don't know. I don't really need that much attention myself. So, if you really want to, I guess my videos are my channels in description. I guess if you want to go check that out, I just, my guess is not a lot of you will be interested anyway. I just do like enemy voice acting and I play characters. And it's like kind of ASMR-esque and I roleplay as characters. Sometimes most of the time it's romantic based. Sometimes I'm it's like it's just, you know, your character and sometimes just whore, which I love a lot, but it doesn't get that much attention compared to romantic stuff. Well, give it some attention. Check it out. It's a KUGVA on YouTuber. Is it just KUG? KUGVA. And my second channel is just KUG. Where I just upload like gaming stuff, I guess, or just random videos that I don't think should belong on my main channel because I know people wouldn't really care about it that much. Just for stuff that I want to work on, but I know that not a lot of people would really pay much attention. So, as I'll put on a second channel where I believe that people who subscribe to it would care because they subscribe to it in the first place. Well, go check them out. He's interesting. He deserves your love. And thank you so much for coming on the podcast. And yeah, my pleasure. My pleasure. Subscribe to KUGVA. Really cool guy. And he deserves the attention from the amount of effort he's spending into this. So thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's all. And have a good day. And take care of yourself because I know that maybe some contributors are going to watch this. Take care yourself. Take a break. Don't be afraid to. It doesn't make you weak. It doesn't make you a bad contributor if you want to take some time off. It's just, it's perfectly understandable. Right? You can't just be under the spotlight all the time. Take a break. It's annoying. It's going to blind you over the time. You know, it's annoying. You don't want that. Be part of the crowd. Get off the stage. Be in the crowd. Fuck it. Screw it, dude. I don't know. Take a break. Take care of yourselves. That's that's that's my message. I guess I don't know. Well, thank you so much. And you're welcome. See you later. Of course. Again, thank you all so much for listening all the way to the end here. It was a bit of a longer episode a lot longer than usual. Normally, I aim around for like the 20 to 30 minute mark. This episode actually ran about 60 minutes. I had to cut a few sections altogether just to keep it below the hour mark. So if you are interested in listening to more of this podcast, the full unedited audio file is available on our patreon patreon.com/keyforcampany. That's where I do this show in a few other projects. So you can go check it out there for free. Absolutely free. Anyways, please, if you're at all interested in this content, I know it seems a little unique and different. But, you know, Jesse's actually a very talented voice actor. So please go give him some support. 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