317: Knuckles from Country Trucker Caps

- This is a podcast from Rover. (upbeat music) - Now they're welcome to Not for Radio, where your host, Duncan Hyde, Jay, rave caution, this podcast contains some swearing, but if you're a sniper alert, you probably already know that. It's Not for Radio, and it's a bloody good one. We're a bloke that we wanted to get on for a chat for ages. It's kinda just worked out that he was in New Zealand and then he flew up from Queenstown to come and hang out for the radio show and stuff like that. And it's just been an absolute treat. - To list the number of things that he does would probably just take up most of the podcast. He has got about 5,000 digits into 5,000 different pies. We don't know how he does it. He had his first pub fight at the age of five years old. He has clocked America and one foul trip, which we'll get into. He is the man behind pretty much everything that you put into yourself or on your body. - Yeah, he's sold it. - Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - Yeah, boy, next episode. - So we've got a lot to get through, and we're all gonna bloody enjoy this. Knuckles is an absolute legend. Country trucker caps is main core business, and they're fucking sick hats. But weirdly, and you're gonna love this part of the potty today, geez, we get deep into some camel racing. - Yeah. - We cover a lot, man. - Yeah, from Cameliering to how much it costs to get somebody shot to pieces in the States, and what it's like to party with Rick Ross, we've got it all for you. - All right, enjoy the podcast. - Be part of the podcast and join us on the Snipers Nightmare Facebook page. - It's not for radio, we're Jay and Duncan. - The best thing to happen when two men came together since Elton John's wedding. - There's a pretty beauty one to start with that. - Yeah, well. - And the guest we mentioned is Knuckles from CTC. He's a brother from another mother. Welcome to New Zealand, mate. - Oh, boy, thanks for having us. - Yeah, good. - This is Majestic, you've rolled in, and then suddenly dominated the place. So you just seem like that kind of person that brings good energy. - Oh, man, much like he sells boys, it's, yeah, it's that big dick energy you just need to bring from the start, I just get it done. - So can we talk about these fucking glorious things that are gonna head right now, good boy. - Dude, I just, you can't explain them though. That's how fucked it is. That's what makes it so funny. I mean, this is obviously theater of the mind, you know, and we'll put some picks up of it. But we saw, we initially saw these hats when we were in the States at a Metz came. And I was like, those things are fucking Majestic and searched high and low and I couldn't find them anywhere. You go through the gift shop when you go there, which is a great ploy from the different franchises. You walk through the front gate, get dragged through the gift shop, you end up with a million things you didn't know you needed. You throw them in a hole on the bench, which scans everything straight away. The price pops up, you bang and you're fucking gone. And there's 300 US out of your pocket without you even blinking. And so I was like, where's one of those hats? Couldn't find them. And then the second we landed back, saw one pop up on your Instagram. So explain the best you can to what it is that we're running. - So I call it the stonker. 'Cause it's just a big fucking stonker of a thing really. But yeah, when I was in the stage racing for the NRL, when the boys went to Vegas and that. So we're over there and I did the same with NASCAR. And I've seen this fucking joint almost lid and I searched high and low at NASCAR for one. I couldn't find one. And everywhere we went, like we went to games, we went to basketball games, we went to heaps of stuff. We couldn't find this hat. So then I was actually at Miami University basketball game and we walked in the door and they had like a Miami university one and I'm like, fuck yes. Like I need to get this hat. So yeah, I grabbed it. - It was 100 US. - Yes. - Yeah. So we charged 100 Australians. So bargain, bargain prices. - But it actually is. 'Cause there is a lot that goes into this. So in terms of reference, like people will be able to say, like that's your stocks. I have one of the biggest heads on record. Like I get like an eight and a half inch, like a whatever new era cap or whatever those ones are. And this fits my head perfectly. - Yeah, so all that's how I wouldn't go in here, business started before. But yeah, I couldn't find it, had big enough fit my head. So that's how I started Country Truck Apps. - Oh, funny. - Yeah, so that's all I'm just, I was sparking the mines, my head and just, yeah. Sort of couldn't find one. And yeah, that's how I sort of kicked it off. And yeah, and the best part about 'em is they're just like the YC even if you're a small head. Like that same hat can fit, you know, your head would be maybe 62 or a head that's a 54. You know, I like it, it's, yeah, the best part about it. So, but yeah, we're back to the stonkers. Yeah, and I just sent over the factory and said, "Mold this bastard up and we got the CTC on 'em." And yeah, they're like, "You just happy to wear it, I like it." - What do you reckon with Steve? We see these fucking pests themselves on here. - I'm so jealous. (laughing) - I'm so jealous. - I'm supposed to be one big dog. - Yeah, because I am a member of the BHC club as well. And holy fuck, I was buying a cowboy hat. And I bought an X out and I chucked it on and it sat right on the top of my door. - I remember that. Like a Yamaka. - Yeah, 100%. - So I'm looking maybe 63 and a half centimeters closer to a 64 centimeter box. - Yeah, you know what, that's it. Well, for the fellas, well, who don't run the stonker, we do have a super saw that's had as well. On top of those ones, they normally say, "Hey, we'll get you an over easy brother." - No, no, no. - Sometimes at all. - So, let's go back, like you said, you're in the mines, you're sparky. And then there's nothing that's fitting the bonds properly. And you're in Australia. So obviously, it's hot. Everyone wears a hat, mainly out in necessity because it's fucking hot. - Yeah, a lot of sun there. - Yep. - And you're like, "Well, fuck, what is the process?" 'Cause I think what people have realized over the last, maybe five or six years. Well, we've got a booze company. And if you said to me 10 years ago, you're going to start up your own RTD company. And I'd be like, "Well, fuck, I don't even know how that would start." But it started as a wine company. It was the same thing again. These things turn up in your life and you never question how they arrived there. Like, there's nothing stopping us from setting up a computer company or a fucking microphone company. Or a bench put, you know, a chair company. A fucking TV's whatever it is. You can get them made now. And that open sourcing is now closer and closer and closer. So what was the catalyst for you to go, fuck it. I'm sick of getting electric shocks. I'm going to sit over here and come here. - I still stay lucky in the mines and supervising that for a big part of into the business. I could have left it away before that. But I kind of been electrician. You can do lots of things like, you know, I was always especially night shift. You can do all your work and then you can sleep after. - You know, they're over slept, you know. (laughing) - You can reverse out of that. - But so I was, yeah, I was working hard during the day for the hats and then at night, you know, I was doing all the work that was needed. Then, you know, it was lucky you could have a bit of a blow. But yeah, just went out there and went out to my area. It's a little, it's actually this weekend, the Chemor races. - Oh, yes. - I want to go to those, eh. - Is that where everyone flies in and they're playing? Is that the one where we're from? - No, it's the birds or racers. - Oh, yes. - That's the horse races. - Yeah, yeah. - But the Māori Chemor races there, yeah, it's this week, it's actually a 30th year of the Māori Chemor races this year. So a little tawny community, there's a pub and a stall and fuck all more out there and it's just, people come here near and far for it. But there's actually a run, like we, my family race, Chemals for years. So there's a run of races that all on up weekend after weekend after weekend. So the Chemor races can go like to different places every weekend and then like, you know, so you're not just gone in the middle of butt, fuck nowhere, then having a drive all the way home. So it makes the run worth it. Can we just fucking take a step back on that one again? Camel is and your family have raced Chemals for years. So to talk us through, well, where did you start? Where did you grow up? Whereabouts are you from originally? For you to have fucking Chemals race? - Now I grew up in Charleville and Weston Queensland. Same place Kurt, Kurt, Katewell now playing for the Wars. - Oh, yeah. - Okay, wow. Yeah, he and his family. But we've, yeah, grew up there mate. And me, oh boy, he was a local copper in town. And then he, yeah, he started, he started the Charleville Chemor races. And there's a, there's a diet, sort of a dying festival in town. It was actually called the Bunga Wunga Roo Festival. For a. - Fuck is there anything more straight in the Bunga Wunga Roo Festival? - It sounds like a massive swing is party. (laughing) And, yeah, so then he just started that, yeah, the Charleville Cup and then sort of flowed on to, yeah, there's other races involved in their own and camels and racing camels. And then when we moved in grade eight to Central Queensland, Johnny Richardson had camels, so worked with him for years. Doing camera rides at resorts and shows and fairs and that. - Okay, now the camels have given you a fear of wacky your life, you know, that's like part of your DNA. - Oh, 100% but he gives you a good life lesson too, mate, like, handling money, like dealing, talking to people, 'cause you haven't even known who's on the camel or, you know, all different nationalities and people and celebrities, then you just, just be yourself and just, yeah, do things and then, yeah, then, yeah, buying camels myself and just having different things and like, so with a camel race, right? In Australia, it's a lot different to buying that, like, they used to be bad. Like, they used to kidnap kids in that life. - I was gonna say that. (laughing) - We're saying camels don't kidnap kids. (laughing) - Yeah, 'cause they were busting them, eh? 'Cause they put, like, the smaller, obviously, the smaller the jockey. So they'll be throwing like five-year-olds on the backs of these camels that are barreling. Like, what's the top speed of a camel? - Oh, I think they are, oh yeah. - And then they just go spilling off and it's generally in the desert. So it's like falling onto the concrete. - Yeah. - And then you trample down. - And then you tramble over and it's nothing. So a lot of it now, yeah, I'm in the United Amherst, it's all robotic jockey. So they've got, like, a cordless drill where they stick on the side of it and it just spins around. - Yeah, exactly, I just spins around and just, just subs it, yeah. - Sometimes the camel is so much right now. Like, that's amazing. - Yeah, it's unreal, like, and so, yeah, you've, in the Australian races, right? So you'll need, usually, predominantly, you've got a short distance race with 400 meters. - Yeah. - And then you get a long distance race, which can be like 600 or 1,000, but Bullya, which is a Western Queensland tan, its races are usually the third weekend in July. So they're, yeah, they're in two weeks' time. It's, it was one of the ones that first started the camera races in Australia. Was that a Bullya? Little, same thing, little, only Tony tan and thousands and thousands of people go out there. 'Cause as you know, this time's the best time in the year for caravan as everyone to travel around a bit cooler than that. So, yeah, the, you walk, Bullya's got 2,000 meter race. - Yeah. - So that's like the long distance camera race. And so, there's not too many sprint camels that can be a long distance camel either. You're sort of like a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. You're not, you're either you, saying, "Bullet, you know, you're somewhere else." You know. - I blew your capricot. (all laughing) - You can't get rid of that. - Exactly right. - You know, and if you get a camel, you can do both a sort of bit of a freak. But the old handler, so I was always too fat to be a jockey. And, you know, put on the same thing. You try to get race horse jockeys to jump on board because for that light weight, and they can sort of feel the animal in that two degree. You know, what a, 'cause there's no, there's no bridal or anything on the camel. They've got your nose line, which then goes back to reins, but the reins are good for fuck all, you know, like, (all laughing) - Yeah, just, just pretty much, yeah. Just sitting there on this pad, like a little tiny pad behind the hump. - Yeah. - And then in front of the hump, there's like a little, just a strap pretty much. And that's what a camel, they call a camel pad, really. Because then, what you do rides in that with a camel actual saddle, it's like over the front and the back. So you can sit either side and it's too much weight and size of camel's down. And that's so predominantly, you usually race in the pad. And so me, you got the handler. So it's not like a horse race but they just take them out of that, like handling and just send them. And you've got to walk this beast to the start. - What's the temperament of a camel? - Oh, fuck and terrible. (all laughing) - Oh, terrible. - Mate, they want to kick you, they want to bike you. They want to strike you. They, yeah. So you've literally got them by the nose line and you're walking them up, but you're always at any time. Like, you have to give yourself enough distance because they can just, a camel can hit you with your front legs both straight. - Oh, yes. - And then the back leg, it can go back forward and then back as well. So they can predict pretty much get you from any angle with like to kick you, you know, as well as like we've had, like handler's been bitten like on the shoulder and like just lifted up off the ground. Like, I've been dragged up the track. Like literally like just dragged the whole, you know, the good 50 meters. - What? - You know, and that's boy, a nose line. Like that's a peg in their nose and they're literally dragging up the track. But no, it's just crazy. - That's full mad dogs. - Yeah. - Yeah, dogs like, so it's a world industry. So us mad handlers like we never ever got much of the credit but we sort of had to put up with all shit. So by the time you get this beast to the start, so then it's literally a start isn't like a barrier in a horse race where they just get in there and they can tussle around and they sort of send me safe. Like a starting barriers of a camera race. It's just like a steel panel than a gap. Then another steel panel than a gap. So it's just like, you come around the back and you sort of just stand in a more enclosed space with these beasts where they can do more fucking damage to you. And then you kind of have them sit in there holding them and because they're all, you know, it provides not their first race or second race, chemicals incredibly smart. So they know that when they're in their barrier, the moment they hear that shotgun, that bang that they've got a jump and run. So they're always on edge, right? So then in there you've got these on edge chemicals, like with the steer points of the other jockeys, hitting the rail and they're half jumping forward and moving back and like, it's chaos like in there. And then you just go and shoot that fucking gun, like you can see that as well. So then yeah, then they do their race and yeah, she's happy days like, yeah. So that's a bit of a strain camera race and voice. - Like, do you know what? - It sounds like an absolute shits on horse racing. - Like what? - Can you bet on it? - Yeah, you can bet on it, yeah. You used to be able to get good odds mate and not saying that we used to fix anything back in there. (laughing) - You got interested? - You used to know, yeah, what camels were win certain races, so you could sort of, yeah, like there used to be big cow cutters and, you know, three, five, 10,000 or like, cow cutter poodles. - Yeah. - Like per camel made of different races. - Well, one of what hasn't taken off more, like everything you've described there just sounds fucking way better than horse racing. - Oh no, it is a lot more risk involved. - Oh, huge, huge. And I think that's probably what it is for. - It can take you. - Well, a lot of, see camels and horses don't, like camel don't give a fuck, but a horse, it's, I don't know if it's smell of a camel or whatever the horse, most horses will just go berk unless they're raised or brought around camels. - Oh, okay. - So like having a camel near like a major horse track or whatever would just send all them horses, just fucking bananas. - Out of it. - So a lot of your racing's done out west for that reason that, you know, like it doesn't sort of matter, that you're not affecting any major horse races or anything in that degree, so. - Can you train a camel? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're full-blown like camel trainer. - Yeah, 100% made this camel trans. And yeah, well, camel ears out there that literally it's just a fitness program, mate. And you're obviously, it's the same thing, like you can't just get all Johnny camel off the fucking out of the desert and hope runs. They sort of have to have a bit of performance about them, so. - Do they do their drug testing? Can you juice them up? - They used to, but they don't anymore, so it sounds, yeah. - There's a real royal Olympics out there. - Like 'cause they're a piece right in Australia, so you know, like it's a good way of being a little bit more lenient on them. It's just, you know, 50% chance their heart could pop and you'll get a fucking race at twice as far. - Is that a grenade camel? One that just like, he's good for one trot. - No trainings, boom. - Boss sorted, well, what they used to do is buy carbonate soda. - Yeah, but why they call it milkshaking them? - Yeah, so yeah, you put it through it and that just breaks down the lactic acid, so they literally can just keep running and running and running, yeah. And that's what a lot of people like, I don't know if it applies for humans either, I'm not sure. - Yeah, there's a similar one that you can get, which is your same sort of setup if you want to do short sprint endurance stuff here. - So you basically overload with buy carbonate soda and that makes you alkaline so that you don't get any lactic acid built up and you go, it doesn't bother you out. But yeah, there's a, it's called runner's advantage. It's like a liquid version of it. So you put it in, so there's like a, a diddison diaphosphate, triphosphate cycle. So that's what you drop one to replenish energy systems. And this one basically picks it up real quick bang, bang, bang, bang. - Yeah, right. - I never did, 'cause I was never ever a fucking build of a runner. (laughing) - I don't even know. - I was running McDonald's. (laughing) - And I fucking randomly was just watching my kids love that Gordon Ramsay program where he travels around all these different parts of the world eating different food. And he has a Morocco and they were eating camel. And fuck, he was like, it's beautiful. - It's delicious. - It's like a real villain. - Yeah. - Yeah, I'm saying. - And then they use the fat off the hump as a way of sort of thickening it up because it's quite a lean meat. - Yeah. - Is that what the hump can just completely fall apart? - So if you see a camel with a massive hump, it's fat. It's not full of water and all that bullshit people. It's literally just fat. - Yeah. - No muscle in it. - Yeah, if you see a camel and you think, "Fuck, they're lean, but they've got this giant, "almost hump, they're actually very fat." - Yeah, so it's like a giant boob really. - Yeah, pretty much, yeah. - And that's because everyone used to think, 'cause there's a kid. I was like, that's like a big water bottle of a dragon around, that's what they can go for fucking ages in the desert. Just like us. - Like us. - And ketosis. - Yeah, that's what happens. You get into ketosis and it breaks the hump down and they just use that as an energy source. So just basically that's a tank that's slowly - That's how they turn into a horse. - Yeah. (laughing) Fucking race. (laughing) Flat back. - Yeah. - So what a long race, you know what I said? - Yeah, that's just the end. - What does a camel run you? - Yeah, like a top tier. - Oh, it all depends. Like a lot of people just run out the west and catch them and then sort of literally like a lot of the main followers and they'll run them in and in that process, they'll pick out the ones which they think can run. - Yeah. - And then you can buy a wild camel for anywhere from 400 bucks to $1,000. You know, and then but then you still got the bragging in process. You know, like we said about fucking, you've got this beast that wants to fucking eat. Yeah, and you're basically going to spend $1,000 on a psychopath. - And you have, mate, you know, and the main thing the first thing you're doing, mate, like is it's teaching the sit down to hush down. So that's the first thing you do. So you've got that process because once you've got control, you put the nose peg in, once you have the nose peg in and you got control, you can get them sit down. So that you've got a little bit of a handle on them. Then fuck, then you're going to put a saddle on. It's the same thing, it's not like a horse but they just want you off the back. A camel literally wants to get off the back and then they'll come back on you. And 100% mate. And under, under the hump, they've got a big pad, like just behind their two-front legs, that big pad, so what happens is, if you, they literally sit on you and they'll squash you under that pad. - It's like a calisade. - It's like a massive calisade pad, yeah. Just behind the two-front legs, yeah. 'Cause if you see a camel when they sit down, you'll see like just there, that's actually parts on the ground so they can just busker. So yeah, it's a fair-been-in. - It's a fucking ruthless thing. - What a random ass. And I mean, it's fucking straight up. - Yeah, it caps to camel. Fuckin' hell, let's go. (laughing) So obviously you'd had enough of pushing these big fucking roots around and a thing. - I used to have fun, but that was, yeah. You get paid, fuck, all. You just go and have a massive piss up back then, you know, young fellow, you know, might pull a random bird or something, think life's good and, yeah, just a yarn, just something you did for fun back then, and your family's involved. So yeah. - How do you transport them around 'cause they wouldn't even fit into a horse float, would they? - No, so open-top horse like you can. A lot of them are just trailers, and they're like, yeah, all trucks. - That's so funny, you're just watching a fucking bunch of camels whistling down and back in and disown. - Yeah. - Out of town. - And that's the thing too, mate. Like usually you sit them down. Like you sit them in most people leave them tied up where they can get down. So they'll naturally, they'll go down at the start, but worst part is you get a big double, something up your ass. And like, and that's the next thing you fucking drive and this Toyota with his trailer full of camels, and you're fucking backwards and forwards and you're nearly, you know, let me put you off the road, you know, you're these massive animals, shit themselves. It's not fucking nice. So it is best to, like when you push them down and to physically time down, like just over their front two legs and over the back of their neck and sort of keeps them down, which when traveling along distance is there, but it's pretty funny just seeing these big fucking heads just having a ton of trial, you know. - You lose one of them over, Bridget. - Yeah, don't hang out where you lost the draft. (laughing) - Shit, that's random. - Okay, so now we'll probably bring us forward to the cat burs. - Yeah, well, now I reckon we're a good place to jump until we work trip to the States not long ago. - Yeah. - So you would get, would have gathered by our knuckles makes fucking tremendous hats and I think you've managed to get across the line and it probably helps cause you're the boss, but a work trip to the States, we just fucking basically clock the States in one trip. - Yeah, so I didn't tell you the main reason I went there. I thought I'd leave that at first. So the main reason I went there, we, when you run the online store, you have chargebacks. I don't know, do you know what chargebacks are? People say, you know, I never received my item or whatever. Anyway, we had a person in America that had done this for 15 grand in chargeback. So all to the same one address, but all different names and that. So, and it's a crazy system. But anyway, long story short, the shopper find all that take, take the buyer side over the seller side until you prove it, but then you still have fees and everything attached to it regardless even if you are on the right. So someone can pull a chargeback on you and still receive their item and there's a high chance that they'll fucking not have to pay any money back and still get to keep the item. It's just a 15 grand. Yeah, so I was in the half of 15 grand. So I decided, I thought, well, the NRL was playing over there and thought, well, perfect, Tom, I can go over and say, I'll just, I'll hire a personal bodyguard and I'll just go to this address and I'll see what the fuck's gonna happen. This is awesome. So how do you go about finding the personal bodyguard and what did you pick? What were the requirements? So literally, I'll go and start a trip and then we'll go back to Miami. Because Miami is towards the end of the trip. So yeah, we went over there in NRL. That was fantastic. I had first night we land, we get on the piss, then I massively didn't sleep and then I had a boxing session with Flume over the senior out of the gym that was unreal 'cause I had that podcast where I'll come up. So yeah, did that mate. He flogged the living fuck out of me. How old is it? 74. And just absolutely tell ya. Sharp as fuck. Yeah. Like insane mate. He poor follies, he's very punch drunk. He's mind is not there anymore. Like he's still sharp. 'Cause many times there's meant to be a pad session and I worked with all of Floyd's actual trainers that train him in that and then you do like a session with his old boy and he sort of meant to hold the pads. Well, I didn't fucking know. But my PA told him that, yeah, I'm preparing for this big boxing match and I was a pro boxer. Oh no, we're near a fucking pro boxer, am I? Fucking no. Well, I got a cup of pub stinks with fucking nothing like that. But, so Floyd's there and he's not even putting the pads up and so I get nothing to fucking hit and I'm not gonna fucking throw out one clean of these snows 'cause I didn't know what's going on. So what's happened is, 'cause he's that quick in that sharp, like the box is usually just strong at him and he just catches the punches with the pads. I didn't fucking know that. So I'm just strong, these little, just gonna, fuck, when's these pads gonna come out next thing? Punches the fucking piss out of me and they're like, Floyd, Floyd, man, just a rope adult bro, just a pads, just a pads. So we go back and all right, so then same thing, and I throw a cup of that and bust, bust, and he said, just get these twinkly's on, and I'm like, fuck you, and now I'm just gonna come down. Just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, like fucking. And then he just went, bust, this massive overhand, like fucking knock the hat clean off my head. And like, oh no, it's okay, Floyd, man, it's okay. Like just, just, you know, a couple of say, you did that about four times man, bash me, but, hey, how many people saved me and bash me all the way with the scene, you know, and, yeah, it was, it was a good experience. Yeah, then we had a closed door session with Freddie Fettler and JT. That was unreal, like just dinner and that with boys and, just for the people listening to the UK or whatever, that's a couple of basically the best league players of all time. Rugby league players of all time. Yeah, rugby league players, great characters too. And so, explain the closed door thing, so how does that work? So the closed door thing is, you've got a bit, I think there's 15 or 20 of us. We went out of beautiful dinner and all your phones are put in your bucket. And you can pretty much ask the boys whatever you like. It's just, you know, they, that's the worst part about today's society. As you boys know, as I know, the most, you can be somewhere, you can have the best story in the world. However, some will film it and someone, whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, you're taking out a context majorly. So a lot of the boys and mates a lot of 40 players, I'm sure you boys are two or different cards. A lot of them feel they can't tell the actual best stories. Yeah, because they're fired, someone's recording or something. Which fuck, I, I'm awful, like, I think fuck, like, just turn the phone off. And I'll, I'll keep the memory of my own head. And I'll just think that's the best thing ever. Yeah, and that's, if you've got a group of fellows like yourself that go, I want to hear everything. And we've been lucky enough to get this experience and get the opportunity to have this experience. No, not even your mates, like not even your best mates get to should, or should get to hear those stories. And there are a couple of things that you'll let through, but the best ones, like it almost should just be like, "Rideo, this is the fucking elite, this is the top brass chat that we've got, and it's just for you guys." And if it ever leaks out, we'll know exactly the group of people that it's come from and you're fucked up for everyone. And you take that on the chin, you'd be like, "Rideo, this is ours, let's just fucking lock me in." And that's what it is, mate. It's literally you get the fucking the best man. And like, and what did they say? And that's the thing, like, and it's good, because then falls lived in an implied, in a tone, when they could have fun, they could do things, they could just go for a beer with the boys, and that, you know, I feel sorry for the modern guy. They wouldn't have been funs when they started playing, and they're just been coming in. No, you're 33, 10 with snake on the fucking thing, you know. They don't care about snakes, no, that's shit, mate. So they actually, you know, they could be themselves, you know, this shit they did was phenomenal, you know. So, yeah, we had that, that was great. We then, next day, we had a suite at the, at the footy, that was good, fantastic. Look, the Edmunds and the team, they hooked us up with that. So, they're same suite, as I was saying to you, didn't cost us, but there was a centerline suite for the Super Bowl's $5 million. They're the same stadium as well. The same stadium, yeah. Before that Super Bowl. They were just, just past just before that, yeah. I think it was two, a month, a month or two before the boys played there. Yeah, we were chatting about it on the radio show today and the Warriors have been confirmed for Vegas. I've just seen that this morning. Yeah. That's phenomenal. So, we are there. Yeah, suite there. No, jobs on boys. Let's go. I'll be back there for sure. Was it there? Good. Yeah. No, it was, mate. I'm all about once in a lifetime experiences, so I like, I like that sort of stuff, you know. And getting back, they're already paid for my tickets to go back, mate. It's phenomenal. It's, yeah. People take it out, predominantly it's all Australians. You know, I think, you know, it was good that they said local Murdoch, it's streamed it because on Fox, for the whole of American Watch, and that was put on Fox One, so the main TV, so every, every TV in America essentially had it at their access for free, so that was unreal of him. Yes, sir. When they wanted, they want to build it, you know. Hopefully, hopefully with the, because I know so many people in the States, like, fuck, this is good. And I know at the moment, within Zidah, or rugby in general, they're doing this thing called the push north, so they're trying to get the game going in, in the States, because off the back of the, the, the combine, these are 400,000 players or something a year that go for these teams. And then they miss out. So there's like six divisions, and if you were to even miss out on that bottom division, you are still a bloke that's 146 kilos, it can run the 100 metres and fucking nine seconds, and you're big, tough, and fuck, your hands are a little bit shit, but you can probably teach them to catch and pass. So they're trying to soak up these footy players. They've already got ex Olympians in the sevens, and that's why the All Blacks are playing Fiji in San Diego, which is kind of the epicenter of rugby union over there, is to soak all these people up. Because there's all these kids that have been playing American football their whole lives, and they're like, the dream's been ripped off from under them, and quite mad, but that's just great athletes. Yeah, and then if you, if you were to get those guys, and it's a little bit easy, I mean, obviously it's not the same, but if you're to do some catch and pass and just fucking, here's the ball, go through all of them and try and put it between the sticks. But there's some big guys that are hard to slow down that would be great rugby league players. Oh, phenomenal. Rugby league, rugby union, both. Yeah. And fucking hell, you know, like, and because in NFL, the fuckers have to learn that many rules, mate. The playbook they have to learn, so pretty much if you can just say, "Earth, throw that out, mate. Fucking catch this ball and run like fuck." Yeah. That's it. That's all I need you to do. We've got four plays, and we probably will only use one of them and the whole game. They're like, "I had to do a 300 last year." We've got four up the middle and then we kick on the last and then fucking flat in that line. Get him done. Level him. That's it. That's it. You know, like, you had to get the arm wrap in there because they would have been great pre-arm wrap. But you know, the shoulder charge would have ended lives. Oh, I destroyed fuckers. Yeah. That's the other thing that I have to get used to the no helmets and no pads, because that would be a real mental bot for them to be like, "But I'll get injured." Yeah. Yeah. Well, even you could half-pad them up. Yeah. Just to get them a bit like their big bodies. So you wouldn't think, "Fuck." Yeah. So at the first game of the season, the first couple of games, you fucking hurt like you've been assaulted and then you come right, it's hurting up. Yeah, exactly. Carry injuries all season. You can do as much pre-season fucking training and still it's game fitness. It's game wearer tear. Yeah. Like, that's the main thing. Any fouls? Was that sick? No, I didn't get any fouls. Oh, you didn't get any fouls. It was over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fantastic. So that finished. You know, chill. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So that was unreal. We're down in the pits. So how far some fuckers do and change them gear and then fuel take? That's phenomenal itself. Like, I recommend that. Anyone that you can do, like a down in the pits experience, that was probably the closest, I guess, VIP experience I've sort of done in any sport event because realistically, like you wouldn't do it. But if you're a fuckhead, you could have ran, like, you were that close enough that you could have ran straight on the track. Oh, my God. Like, you are probably not even a five meter jump through a pit where it's not security guarded man and you are on the fucking track. Well, you'd obviously get shot. Yeah. And you'd never do it, but I was saying as far as being in the guts of a fucking VIP experience, Nascar was unreal. Yeah. But they go, when they're on an oval, it's like 330 K now they're going. No. They're fucking moving, man. That's so sad. They're fucking moving. And they're just lap off. And it was good. So we're up there. Yeah. Seeing the one he came up, he was in the booth with us. That was cool. How do you hunt him? So then the next day, we flew to Miami. Sorry to Dallas. I had a bit of business stuff in Dallas. And then we went to the maps. We're on court with the maps. That was fucking unreal. That big human's eye. Oh, massive. Even when you're sitting down on the court and you look at me, oh, shit, he's a little fun. He's still 65. Yeah. The little list of the little list dudes on there would still be taller than me. Yeah. I'm 65. I'm 61. Yeah. There's still big dudes. Like, you're just crazy, you know. Mark Cuban was there. Yeah. I didn't get to have your own name, but he walked straight past us because he's the owner of the maps. That was cool. So then we get to Miami. So they, I go to another basketball game, so we're court side again for Miami, have you university? No. No, you're a game. And that's what I see in the hats. And then so you, for the court side stuff, you literally just going on the tech of the website and being like bang, most expensive list by us. So my PA, he would just say, hey mate, we can get this and I'd go fuck you. Just do it. So, you know, you just, you just, like I said, you just pay to be there. Yeah. So if the tick is available, bang, we want to just take him, you know. So he says, like, not too many people in the whole life, we get to go court side of the game. You know, like, so if you have the ability to be able to do it, just fucking do it. You know, that's, that's what I believe. Yeah. So I would never be in the NBA before, so I thought, well, just go and might as well do it right from the start. So I think we're just, we're doing nothing. I mean, the first night, so then, yeah, we went to the Miami U game. That was cool. We don't sound the court. Then that night, that's when we went to that Rick Ross, we're in the boxy Rick Ross in the concert. Yeah. And he's pretty cool. Not that I'm a big rapper fan or nothing. But yeah, and just to say, you know, he's a pretty big name. Then the next day, we organize security. So I'm ringing around all these places and so no one's really taking it serious or whatever I'm like, I just literally want to hire someone. I need a bull professed and some guns, I said, I don't need to have the guns. But I don't want to have the guns. I said, just need to go to the address and I said, need to know who the fuck's ripping me off pretty much. Yeah. And anyway, so I've ended up found this Nick guy, his unreal ex-Army, my brain, yeah, in the seals, like he was fucking jacked at all these guns, unreal. And so he's like, he's like, you dirty, like, happy days, like, you know, all good, paid him money. I've ran U.S., all good, bang, you know, and that provided a bull proof car, like a big escalade. And the driver, he was ex-CIA, he's sort of like, he was hard, he was one of them dudes that you like fucking, he's seen things, you know, like this guy, you know, he wouldn't speak much. He's just like, glasses on full, like fucking, you know, just, you know, it's just on that. So for $15,000 worth of product that he's ripped you off, like, how many units are we talking about? You had to average it out, so what is a, so what's a hat, I say, cool, I had a hundred bucks. Oh, well, just, just say a hundred bucks worth, so it's all, you'd say, you know, I guess fucking 150, 150 orders, you'd say, every 100 bucks, you know, so it's, it's not a hell. And three, you're taking the purse. Yeah, that's the one you're taking the purse. Yeah, no, that's what I mean, you know, and that's the thing, like we're going fuck like, you know, it's, it's not a lot of money, but my curiosity, but it is, it's more of a principle going, well, fuck, where the fuck are these orders going to? They're all going the same address. I need to know why and what they go is in, you know, and do you record all this for your podcast? Yes. So I've never actually, this is the first time I've told this, you aren't as you've been exclusive there. So I've never actually actually told it before the full, yeah, the whole fucking box and dice of it all. I've done, there's a few clips on our, um, only a podcast, but the proprietary own podcast page where they're actually like nicks arrive and like, um, and there's a few other things in escalating, there's like, um, so you got Zach, my marketing manager, Zach didn't want to fucking go at all. You want to post it? He did. Yeah. Yeah. Like, could go a pear shape. Well, he's, he's fucking like, he's got a young kid, um, well, I've got a young daughter too, but he's like, fuck like, what if it all said, well, oh, we had a good run. He goes, you had a good run. Come on. You had a good run. I didn't have a fucking run. He said, I'm still in my life. He said, you had a good run. I said, well, think what we've done up today on this trip, so far, I'm like, we've had a good run. He said, no, no, like, and he said, he was like, probably shaken, mate, like, he didn't want to go. I'm like, mate, you got to go, because I need someone to film it, you know, like, that's, that's what you're there for. And he was like, fuck, so I got to say, say Nick comes, we're getting the escalade. We go out and, uh, we pull up the joint. We sus it. So we arrive, and there's this massive Sudanese guy at the front, uh, washing in Mercedes. He's washing there. Um, we look in. There's a truck pulled up, um, so it's like a concrete building. There's a door to the right, and then there's like this massive opening, like, roll the door opening. And then, um, um, and then there's like a truck there, unloading stuff. So just a, sort of like a freight forwarding, sort of place, I'll look out, um, Nick's got a bulletproof vest on. I don't know, fucking anything. He must have missed the queue. We're on the one that gets out of the bulletproof vest, not him. Anyway, so back to back to aggressing on the way there. He's got an AK fucking machenga, and he's like, cockin' it, checking everything, um, in the car, puts it down his foot, Zach's like, what the fuck is happening? He's like, what the fuck, like, fuck, like, fuck, like, and then there he goes, duper boom, it gets to two fucking these massive, like, like elephants, sniper fucking, like pistols out. Like, I think that 50 cows, like literally just checking him, one guy's under his vest, the other one goes under his vest, everything's still work, right? Can I just jump in quickly? a lot of bang for you, Buck. Five grand you in this, you're going to bullet proof car, you're going to two bad motherfuckers and some serious firepower. Yeah, but yeah, my, that was sort of happy to do it, mate. Just, hey, we've, and if I'm going to be putting that situation, I'll need someone that's there that's going to fuck, well, blow someone's fucking head off the shoulders for me, you know, I'm paying five grand. Yeah, damn it, shoot someone, it's my amy. You know, like, you can shoot anyone for anything. Like, you know, like, say, and then you ground rule, like, exactly right? Yeah, you're like, you, yeah, it's so easy to get everyone over there has a fucking gun in my amy. Like, is that easy, like, to get a gun? And, um, but, and he's just, he was blindly, he said, mate, I won't give you a gun. I'm like, mate, don't give me fucking gun. He said, because, you know, I don't want that responsibility of, if I had to shoot someone, you know, like, I don't, I'd probably just do it. Like, I'm not, I'm not fucking not wide to not shoot them, you know? So, we, we're all race camels. What do you want me to tell you? I ain't fucking big animals in this. So we get there. And Nick says me, hey, mate, I'll walk in first, you stay in the car. I'll find out what the go is. Then I'll come out and get you. So he walks in, they, um, he comes out with it. It was about 10 minutes. Zack's peeling out the CIA guy. He's in this process. Um, he's pulled a clock out of the center console. He's clocked the clock and he's left the clock on the center console. Oh, good. I haven't mind as I said, this bloke is like a stone called Carl's staunch killer. Like, Nick's talking about, you know, Afghanistan, different things, fighting overseas. Let's see how I go. I'm like, mate, we're in the force of anything. He's just like fucking nothing, like just literally just the, he was more daunting than fucking Nick, you know, like, you know, Nick's a massive jack dude. He was a lot of skinned, but he was like, when someone doesn't talk, you know, like, he's a guy that's been dissolving people in barrels of acid for the fucking cartels. Yeah, 100% for the American government. You know, he's like, yeah, like, he made stuff disappear there in 51. You know, this guy is fucking, yeah. And, um, so Nick comes out with this massive paper, like, heap of paper, and goes, mate, um, that this company's been subpoenaed, they don't know why are, um, they're not sure they don't know what the goth you order is. Do you want to come in and talk to them? And I said, yeah, I know, drums. And Zack goes, do you fucking kiddin? I said, right, he goes, you're going to go in there with no vest. And I said, well, fuck, I'm going to find him. I've come this way. He goes, what if you get shot? I said, well, it's a cool story. And he goes, fuck you. So I'm like, right, I'm so walking the best tool story for why it's not in the head. Yeah. Um, and so I wouldn't think I'm thinking I get shot. I don't come back. You're like, you know, body should be pretty cool. I'm on the arm. You know, I'm on the leg, you know, like, you can blow off. You know, who knows? Um, so we walk in, and there's a lady there, and, um, so what happened is it turned out, um, at this time, she, she was being subpoenaed for the same thing, like, so all this mail is getting set to these address, to this address. And they're a freight folder. And, um, it's, it's a massive scan, but it's not run by these people. So they take us out of the back to show us the whole setup. And at the back, and I didn't realize at the time, as I've walked in the fucking door of this, of this, um, just normal glass door, the fucking main roller doors going down, like, fucking went right down. So now Zach, it's fucking shit himself. The CIA kind is now fucking brought the escalator around reverse backup. And it's like taping his hand on the, like, getting proper fucking jittery and shitty, which is also now putting fucking zacking the fucking, like, you know, like stress made, he's fucking stressing. Say, and I didn't realize any of this. So I walk out in the back room and these, like, sort of Mexican, he workers, they were sort of all scattered around, kind of Nick, he like shuffles me around and sort of has me half behind him. And they go, oh, we'll go grab the boss. And so then Nick sort of, he puts his hands under both under his things. And guys, knuckles, he said, don't think I'm scared. He said, I got my hands on both guns. He said, blow the fucking heads off if they come nearest. And I've gone, I can't ride too easy. No, I'm just still standing there. So this bike comes out. Anyway, what it is in the end, there's these poor buses are just being scammed. All these products there, they're just using as a dress in the States to get all this merchandise to come do. And then it's then getting on forwarded from there to the Dominican Republic, where I don't know what the fuck they're doing with. There must be heaps of fuckers in the DR with CTC hats on, that's all I'm going to say. And then money back on their orders. So the caps actually, around a few numbers in there, the caps actually don't even get to this address. They just use it as a front address. Once it hits the States, they redirect it to the DR. And then so these poor fuckers, their address is just being used as a front. And these guys do nothing about it. And they didn't even know what their whole business was being subpoenaed. So they would have been doing that for countless, the countless different bits and pieces. It could be mattresses and fucking the whole name. Exactly right. So it's a massive scam. And like, and then and Nick, so we find all this out. And then, okay, right, I say in the course of the time, mate, we would have been behind this closed roll law for like 20 minutes. Oh, street swall. Well, you were sweet. I was okay. Zach and CIA? No, no. They were fucking pegged. Just to happen, it was a Mexican holiday where they have a whole bunch of fireworks out the back. It's a burrito. Oh, mate. And thank fuck, because this guy would have stormed the fort, mate. Say we've sorted, we've sorted all that out. And yeah, then left it and as well as nothing more, we could fucking do it because it was all these poor guys that just they're in a wrong bad predicament when they're just getting fucking scammed for their business. And they actually didn't even know why they're being scammed. So it's probably a little bit of clarity that I had gone there for them so that they now could understand what is happening to them. And they could then use that to, I guess, fight their subpoenas and all these lawsuits against them. And straight away, you go, uh, Miami. Yeah. Okay. Beaton, they've done that. Dominican Republic. Probably no, yeah. So they've haven't heard much better as a holiday nation. Exactly. Well, that's the next set of guys, mate. I'll help you. You said, but they cut your fucking head off. We're not down there. I said, no, no, no, they can have it. So have you managed to get as a result of that, have you managed to put some failsafe and place where you just go, yeah, this is a, if it's a freight forwarding address, because I mean, it would just pop up as an address. So yeah, we're going to heap it back in stuff that stops it all now from all this. Yeah. So it was a good lesson in that, in that business aspect of the things, but fuck me like it was, it was a world worldwide to fucking experience. Got on your two, because a lot of people wouldn't do that. There's put, ah, that's fucking annoying, but like and keep going. Yeah, but like following it through. Oh, mate, I have to know. I'm a person has to know some, especially if it's directly affecting me, you know, I want to fucking know, because I want to know how I can avoid or I want to, yeah, yeah, you know, someone's fucking me over. I want to know why. What are the message about this? So she literally, so she knew I was going to do it, but she didn't want to know anything about like, I, because I, I told, I said, I, I, they got a don't show me. No, no, no, no. She was fucking like, my mistress stresses the most times. Like she was stressed that I flew here today from fucking Queen's standard. The flame was going out in. Little one would be at the storm, the fort of a fucking guns and shit, like she was shitting herself. I proper, which is, I don't know, well, because I don't know if she actually generally really likes me, because she probably didn't, she'd get the keys to the castle. It was a fucking easy ad for us. She was shot in America, I fuck like everything is cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'd be right. And, um, yeah, so, um, no, she was, she went around and said, hi, we're all sweet. Everything's cool. Um, yeah, because actually around, I was talking on the way there. I was talking to another man who came from the Elf Mox podcast about, um, yeah, I'm going to hi, bro, she got all these guns. I'm going to send the boys a video clip of in the, in the case, like, you are fucked. You were fucking like, you were tapped. Like, who even does that? Like, and yeah, we got back and, um, yeah, then, then, um, yeah, next day we went to, um, well, it was all we could do. You know, there's nothing more we could do and just learn the lesson from that. And, um, and when we got back to the hotel, actually, there's a video I'll show you after of a Zach literally just got into bed. And, um, I, I was laughing about, but he, I said, Mike, give us a, like, give us a fucking, you know, ring an actman of what you've just seen and done. You know, you ever film and film it like, and for three hours, he told us, but for three hours after he sat in bed and shook, he shook and bed, like, he was still that fucking petrified. I just went down the film, I got the piss. No, I fucking, you know, happy. That's like, it's so good. Yeah, he was, he was that fucking, yeah, he took him that to, to calm and let, you know, levelling some people I'm built for a day. He wasn't ready. He wasn't ready. Yeah. So then we had the, yeah, UFC on the floor for the UFC. That was fucking cool the next day. Um, you know, yes, that pretty much fucking right beside Nate Diaz. Tony Hawk was there. So fucking Donald Trump, you know, all the UFC fighters made fucking phenomenal, you know, um, uh, Jack Madeline of Fort one, the Aussie, you know, it was just a fucking sick time. Is that a melee fight? So it was that 299. Um, yeah, it was just a fucking sick spot, you know, down there on the ground. I'd never been in a spot with so many celebrities in my life. Yeah. Like, actual genuine, you know, you could fucking, they're all there. Like, you know, it's amazing. UFC drags that, I know. Like, regardless of your actor, a singer, a business model of sports. Yeah, they do. So in that section, like to the rive. So we're like, um, Logan Paul's there, Mr. Beast, um, fucking Steve O, uh, you know, the Nell boys, like they're all in like, so Dan is going to his own section of tickets. So, so when you're on the floor, um, unless you've got a ticket there, but you can still walk in around into all their boys. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Fucking there. So heavy on to all men. It was fucking like, as I said, man, and that's, there would have been that many, you know, um, grid on players and, and on basketball players and different fuckers that I didn't even know, you know, I like this. There's the world's best streamers and shit. And that's the worst part of it, man. I'm not oblivious to that. If it's not within my realm, I've got no idea the fuck that is. That's where Zach's good. He's like, Oh, that's fucking such and such. Well, that's such and such. And I'm like, Oh, you know, cool, man. You know, I don't know. Are they funny? I'm a person. Yeah. They built like me. Like, what are we going to do? You know, I say, yeah, that was cool, mate. Yeah. Then we just fucking flew on. That is fun. No, sorry. Sorry. No, I forgot. Yeah. So that night, that night of the fucking, um, yeah, of the, uh, Nila shooting, we went, yeah, we went to the ice hockey. We went to, uh, to watch the Panthers play, um, the paces. I think any of those. They just, they didn't, the Panthers just won the Stanley Cup. Yeah. Which is wild. You know, you wouldn't go, you'd always imagine it would be sort of New York across that top, you know, a Canadian team. Well, they played a Canadian team. Yeah. They played the conucks or something. Uh, the oilers, uh, the oilers. Oilers. I'm pretty sure that's what happened. The Panthers, when we're there, the Panthers will lead in like the whole division, the NHL, the number one, and they were like $1.20 to win and they fucking lost that game. But we're in the, we're right in the class, um, beside, um, the, um, the away team. Um, yeah. That's probably a spot to be in the stadium. Oh, yeah, it was fucking cool, mate, because you're right there. But how quick they hit. Have you seen, have you seen a game? It's phenomenal. I fuck man. Like they can't even see the puck. That's what they're, the hand-like ordination, then blokes is phenomenal. Like they're just, fuck, mate. I, yeah. Well, while racing on ice at a great speed of knots to then stop turn, prop, click, flick, fucking. And once again, big motherfuckers. That like, same thing. Yeah. That like six, five plus again. Yeah. Exactly. But I was shitty though, because I went there to watch a stink and there was no fucking fights. Yeah. That's what was dirty. I only sport in the world where you can, there's a different rules around it. Yeah. As soon as one bloke puts his knee on the ground, then fights over us. Yeah. Pretty much. We went to like a Dev2 game at Camloops and Canada at the beginning of the year with the fair. And same thing I just said, I just wanted, I just wanted to see birth. And I said to a local guy, we'll see a dust up tonight. He's like, yeah, buddy, they're pretty shit. So, uh, I'd say we'll be fighting by the second, by the second spell, sure enough, but fucking all in the club. Yeah. And they just get like a, they get like a three minute call down and then they're back on. Yeah. And it was like, you could see it building. Like if you've been around dust up, you know, when you go into a pub, you like, that guy's going to smack someone, that guy's going to run his mouth and you can kind of pick a bit of that. And then you could see there's this one guy who was just fucking bullying this smaller bloke who was younger, because they're like semi-professional team. Kid was like 19. There's like a 30 year old bullying this young kid. And so they just sent their enforcer in. And he just fucking T-bone them at a million pounds an hour. And then send him flying. And that was it all on. But everyone just punched the nearest person. Fucking goalies when added in the middle. Like just, it was awesome. There's that, uh, have you seen any of those untold documentaries on Netflix? And so it's basically bad sports. And there's this one about the, um, what the fuck were they? I think they were called the trashes. The trashes. Just outside of Chicago. And basically there was like a mob boss that ran the, um, the refuse company. And that's a, they did a lot of racketeering through it. And he ended up buying his son a, like, a third grade NHL team, second or third grade. Only because his son got injured, it was like his career was over. Basically he felt bad from his, like, fuck, it was by the whole team. And then there was like a big lockout, uh, of the NHL contract, the fucking the players association or whatever, some big lockout. So there was this big patch where there were all the best players in the game weren't playing. So he was playing them through brown envelopes to come down and playing his third rate team. All the sudden they're fucking the team blow up and they and all the, the, the, the, the memo for them to join the team. I was a fucking good doctor. The memo for them to join the team was, um, you're allowed to be in the team. And it doesn't matter if you're the best fucking player, the way you need to play as a mix between, uh, WWE, like entertainment and fucking street broadly. Yeah. And so they just like rumbled everyone and, uh, eventually he goes away for money laundering and stuff and this, you know, it'll catch us up with a fun, pretty cool, pretty wild three years. Yeah. And the whole town, like, knew who he was or whatever, but they all looked back at it being like, that was the greatest period for our town. It was a great thing to see what happened. It was just this mob boss fucking Linda Sun live out his dreams. Fuck, yeah, I'm gonna have to watch that man. I'll do that. It's a whole bunch of them like, um, the guy that was, uh, the horse killer. I think it was another one. Shocking the ass. I wasn't flippin' the guts. Yeah. So they're not, yeah, they've been clicked in a shirt. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. We just, yeah, it's good sex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bad sports. The series is bad sports. Yeah. Sick. Yeah. And I think it's untold bad sports. And there's like ones on, um, the Reggie Miller versus who's the fucking other vague vaguely remembered that anyway, there's a lot of good ones. Yeah. No, that's fucking awesome. Yeah, well, anyway, I'll let us listen and fucking get into it. That's the last of the hours. Yeah. I was actually checking the other night at the day of the morning. It's been about nine months in the release one. Actually, the last one they released was the Jake Paul one that actually got put under that banner. So that was, that was six months ago. Which in itself is a cool story. Yeah. Well, you know, is that a make money? Well, hey, fucking, oh, I was saying, yeah, but I was gonna fly over and watch him more toss and bash him. Yeah. That's gonna be fucking annoying. Yeah. On that thought feelings and emotions like he has to go because we were saying this the other day, there's all these rules that if Mike Tyson doesn't let it go the full distance, then he doesn't get the full whack. But it would take one of those guys like, like Mr. Beat, not that he would do it, but why don't like someone that's got wedge to go. Mike, if you eat this motherfucker in the first round, I'll give you $40 million. That's right. And then just flip it around again and make it interesting. Well, one of them, Saudi, Saudi princes or whatever, you know, that that fucking have all that money. Like, you know, how I'll give you 500 million. You know, like, that's what I think is bullshit, you know, it should be what weight we fight net. Yeah. How many rounds we fight in the length of time and where the fuck's it gonna be and how much we fight for? That's it. Yeah. You know, like, fuck it. Let's go. You know, it shouldn't be any other bullshit rules in between. It's a boxing match. Yeah. You know, like, and obviously, like, no, below belt tonight, so stuff. But fuck me, you're fighting a 58-year-old man, you know, just fucking fight. Yeah. You're seeing Jake Paul is put on a better weight. Yeah. He's stuck in on heaps. Maybe he just needed a couple more rounds on the roads and maybe there's no stomach ulcer. Well, there's no, yeah, there's no test and there's no, no, no. I don't know. I hate Mike. Fucking doesn't, you know, but who knows? Yeah. Yeah. And it'd be, it'd be, it'd be a massive blight on the sport. If he, if Mike gets fucking eaten up by this YouTuber. It'd be a blight if he got had to hold back because of dumb fuck rules. Yeah. That too. You know, that's, that's stupid. You know, but hopefully now he's in position now. He's got enough money through his weed business and all that. He doesn't need the fucking money. He's just gonna come in and just go, I think you can fuck if I knock him out. Take, keep your money. Yeah, keep your money. You know, you have it, you know. So yeah, that's cool. That's November. There were, yeah, we're meant to be gone there. Fucking this month. But yeah, not anymore. So November ringside. Let's go, baby. Oh, it's lifetime. So I'll just Google what will be the weight difference between Jake Paul Mike Tyson. They reckon Jake Paul's now over 230 pounds. What's that? Like one 20 or something? What's my way? Fuck, it's a lot. He's tall, but yeah, 120 clicks. Man, that's fucking, that's some weight that he's carrying in. Well, so this is on talk sport. Uh, of course, there's some fucking stones. It doesn't mean anything to us. Who fucking does that? Yeah, she does that on that way. This one, my dad just says, how much you ain't? He's like, oh, I'm about six stone. I was like, yeah, we only left the pro. Oh, six stone ring and wetting. Yeah, exactly right. You know, what size? Fucking stone. Yeah. Well, from the look of it, even if you do go in stones, it's fuck all difference between them. They reckon. Oh, true. Yeah. So he must have stacked on a shitload. And Tyson, Tyson is a little bit shorter, I guess. Yeah. I just want to, like the pat, I just, I'm just hanging my hat on my ginormous CTC hat on the fact that the knockout power is the last thing to go for a heavyweight boxer. Yeah. And yeah, and he need one. 230 is 105 kilos basically. So that's not bad. I'm 230. I'm one of five. Yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm one. So we would be fighting in the year. See you against John Jones. That's a real issue. Oh, fuck that. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Well, it was meant to be just a short chat to catch out with you. Fuck me. What an adventure that's been. Well, that's been awesome. It's been one of the trips, boys, fuck it. It's just that running towards. Probably damn. Do you bloody liver must have been like a raisin after that last trip? Yeah, mate. Yeah, it was, but that's what's about. I just couldn't have a go. You know, like, fuck, yeah, just build different, go out. Yeah, fuck it. Get into it. I want to teach you. Fucking build different. We look forward to, um, we look forward to not for radio and snipe as nightmare, uh, CTC hits coming out and they're not too distant from you. I want to say it now. Thanks. Well, it's like, yeah, no, it's fucking put some, it's, you set this up properly. Fuck it. We're going to do them. Yeah, darn sorted. Yeah, thank you. Thanks, J. It's, thanks, Nuggle. It's positive. Neil's been done and so on. Mate, that just awesome. You have to go and check them out. I mean, obviously, we'll put a link in the show. This isn't the, I mean, just across the board. And if say, for example, uh, you're running a business over in the UK or the States or wherever you're listening to this, and you go, I'll look, those look like great leads. And I want to be able to put my business on them. You're the capabilities of doing everything. Start to finish. I'm semi-wee. Yeah, we send hats all over the world from custom hats to, yeah, or the one-off pieces. So yeah, it's, uh, you're minimum 50, and yeah, just fucking easy. Let's go. So you've been dicking out like, you know, like, for example, trucking companies and, um, massive, um, you know, I guess tradee gangs that are working in pubs, sporting teams, um, anything like for events or, um, yeah, for like to people have for the horses, for race, horses, and it may, and if you, if you can, there's a hundred sixty thousand followers on your Instagram. Yeah. People buddy. Love it. I mean, you don't want me fucking fourth tectok, mate. I've lost a few tectok accounts. So yeah, anyway, fun times. That's a different world as you boys know. Yeah. Yeah. The tectok shops about to open up too. Yeah. Oh, true. Yeah, right. Yeah. That's going to absolutely annihilate, um, Alex. They, they said that, um, the, the chat that I have, which fucking sounds absolutely brutal, is that the tectok store, or tectok shop is what it'll be called. If they don't buy Amazon in three years, they'll put them out of business. Yeah, right. Well, because that's what I thought. That was one of the key features I believed why they're trying to be in at the States is so an American can then purchase tiktok to then open it back to the States. Ah, that's the main fucking drive behind I was heard. Because is that Mr. Wealth or whatever? He's on shark tank and all that. They're poorly follow you. I think he's trying to fucking procure tiktok, but he can only, but they'll never have to be. They'll let wedge. Yeah. But if you think if they're banned in the States, how much their market share's gone? Hmm. So then you value a whole tiktok's come fucking right back. Thanks, yeah. He buys it. And then, and now American citizen owns fucking tiktok. Now he's allowed to have fucking run it through America again. Bang. Go through. Yeah. Yeah. So that's all there. That's what I was told in the back end, not the fucking the idea of many people from tiktok was eight me. Yeah, it's it's stupid, mate. I said, I built and count to 90,000 lost to build a count to 180,000 lost. Last one was 88,000 lost it. Now we're back to, you know, fourth camera. Just silly things, mate. I had me do it on my lap in the last time I lost it. We're in a paddock in my old farm truck. We're just driving along and she just had a phone and a hand. I said, mate, that's a $1,054 and four points. I said, no, you're going to pay that. She's a two year old kid, you know, like sit on me lap and they said, that's a dangerous act. You know, like just just stupid stuff, that I believe no recourse. No recourse. No, you just banged on straightaway. It's just, it's, it's just stupid, mate. There's, they need to have a function. They, well, everyone out there is suspended and then go through the process and go, oh, fuck, what was that? Well, I believe, mate, in the app, as long as you're not shooting people or, or being racist or, or, you know, or a pedophile or anything, mate, like, boy, fucking, pretty much let everything go, you know, to a degree. You know, like if it's fucking stupidly way crazy, fucking pull it and jam them people, but so many people, uh, detract, I detract from using the app because of how shit it is in those garage. You know, like, yeah, like, yeah. And so much of our business, my international was, that comes from a video of someone seeing a hat like this, fucking all over the world, mate, I've posted a hat's pretty much to every country in the world, only cause of TikTok. Yeah, you know, and that's so sad. And as you lose the count, you lose all their followers. Like, people don't just get straight back on you. Like, you know, it takes so much to build back up to that. So probably a good time to, um, chuck out there as well. Jay, we, we do have a review pinned in order. Do we? Wow. There's a picture. See, remember that story is the, uh, bloke is on the stagdo in the UK, and they sent him, um, nude up to Scotland. So the video's just been made for that, and with the picture, and when you start the video as a bloke, fucking line, face down naked on a train. Ah, the sandable, you know, straight away. But it's only bum. No, it's a man. It's a man. What's it now? You know, it's only bum. At all. Yeah. Bums, but you're just bumming. Kind of. Well, well, well, then you're looking at, you're looking at a lady on that can be wearing G-string and we got through. Exactly. That's where bum's showing. She had to put a singer on them. Exactly. So what you're saying is, we all need to be G-string, so we'll be out of fucking whistle straight through. Well, I think it's exactly what I'm saying. And on that note, Knuckles has been great. Jay, you've been average. It's kind of a joy to tell you, and that's why I love you. Jane Dunc, not for radio. It's next Chickens, bro.