The New York Knicks' historic playoff victory after 27 years ignited a wave of joy and unity across the city, transforming the streets into a vibrant, chaotic celebration. Comedian Nate Jackson’s presence underscored the emotional resonance of the moment, illustrating how a shared win can unite diverse communities. New Yorkers, typically known for their intensity and volatility, displayed an unusually relaxed and positive energy, with crowdsurfing and spontaneous festivities reflecting a deep communal spirit. The conversation expands beyond the sports moment to explore deeper cultural dynamics, including historical exclusion in comedy and media, with references to segregated circuits like the "Black Circuit" and the evolution of representation. The discussion highlights how racial and cultural identities are increasingly visible in entertainment, as seen in comedy clubs and roasts. Observations about the NBA expansion to Vegas and the return of the Sonics reveal skepticism about cultural sustainability in new markets. Central to the narrative is the role of social media in shaping audience reach—algorithms often reinforce typecasting, limiting exposure unless actively challenged. Ultimately, the piece celebrates the resilience of community, the power of representation, and the evolving landscape of inclusivity in American culture, where diversity is no longer optional but essential to shared experiences.
>> What's up everybody, welcome to Flay Grinch. And today we are, today we are feeling optimistic. Today we are feeling good. The New York Knicks have advanced after 27 years to the NBA final. >> Let's go. Let's go. >> Big, big, big applause. We got our boy, Nate Jackson here, who came to celebrate the Knicks victory. He was in Harold Square and he was driving by. You guys probably know him from his comedy. You see maybe his Netflix special. You see him online. But even Nate, a person from the West Coast wanted to feel greatness in this city. He took the shows at the Brooklyn improv. He did two weekends in a row to make sure that he could be here, just in case the Knicks extended past four games. But they swept obviously is what we do in the playoffs now. So Nate, thank you so much for your contribution to, you know, New York's Knicks lore. >> I think I'm the reason you guys won. Just because you need somebody who missed basketball as much as me to be in the city, so that they just felt that energy. You know what I mean? I don't know if this is good for the city or bad. Obviously it's good because you needed a win. But you guys don't know how to act. Like this is ridiculous. >> Yeah, yeah. We're united, man. This feels like 9/12. You're united in Anarchy, though. Like they are literally like, I saw a grandma crowd surfing. Like it's yeah, yeah, it's pandemonium. >> New Yorkers are relaxed. I don't know why. We never been relaxed. >> That's never, nobody has ever been like, let's talk about New Yorkers. >> Yeah, I was thinking we're just vibing and cooling. That's what you guys are. Well, what's up? What's up? It's Brick out here, yo. It's fucking Brick out here, yo. What's up, son? Oh, my God, son. Look at that. Wow. >> But you usually just see us angry and disappointed, right? >> You guys are loud. >> But we're loud and positive. >> No. >> No. >> You didn't see positivity oozing in the streets, right? >> It's not positive or negative. The normal New York that I know is just loud. And it's not, is it like peanut butter. My girl left me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Like it's not sanity. >> That's insanity. >> Yeah, we're the same people. >> I'm not. >> We're the same people. >> We're passionate. We're passionate people. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You've got, put it. >> The heart of glory. >> I think you were talking crazy. >> Yeah. >> There's a million in these videos. >> Yeah. >> And that's his inside voice. >> Did you? That's what I'm saying. >> I knew it. >> And that's the women. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But doesn't it remind you when you were a basketball team? >> Yes. >> Go Sonics. We're back. They gave, they approved two expansion teams. So Seattle Sonics will be back. >> Are they going to name them the Sonics? >> Yeah, we kept our name. >> Really? >> Yeah, that's why Oklahoma's the, what are they called? >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> No, he's salty. >> So we kept our name and Brandon Lin Vegas's the other expansion. >> The NBA team of Vegas is just bad news, bro. >> I mean, that's what we said about hockey and it did that. >> Hockey, I'm not worried about, because they're going to drink anywhere. >> But they, the Oakland A's are, I mean, they're the Vegas athletics now. >> Yeah. >> They're going to have every sport. >> Yeah, it's just going to be bad. >> Like NBA players know how to actually party, and people know who they are. Baseball players, nobody really knows who they are. Hockey players, nobody really knows who they are. >> Well, the baseball players don't speak English, so they don't kick it how we kick it. >> Yeah, how did they kick it? >> At Latin night. >> Little car nassada. >> Yeah. >> Stop. >> Yeah. >> Still wearing cleats. >> So we never complained about your hotel 10 years ago, Nate. >> I wouldn't? >> No. >> Absolutely would. >> Always been bougie. >> That's not a bougie complain. I've been there for 11 days. By the time you hear, you can tell what shoes they got on. >> I'm on the 10th floor of the rooftops of 11th. >> No, I was cool for five days of it. >> Yeah, yeah. >> You just got me on the back out for like, really? On a Sunday? It's my boy or day weekend. They've been kicking it extra. >> But 15 years ago when you're on the road and you're at some comedy club and you're at like a motel for the weekend. >> Yeah. >> You're not even worried about the sounds that are coming out of rooms next to you, right? Now you're at a different level of success where Latinos can't be stomping on your roof. >> Oh, they had a black night, a white night, a Latin night. >> But what was the loudest? >> Asian night. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Just going to run and then it'd be quiet for a second and then it'd be real loud. >> I don't know is that a kid? >> They got one sandals, that's why. >> That's it. >> It's extremely liquid. >> Now that you go pee to Asian night, you got to at least. >> I didn't go up there at all on any night. >> Really? >> Yeah, but they do go way longer than the West Coast parties because we were right. We were right by like two at the latest. >> Yeah. >> They're winding down at four. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then they had day parties too. So it will go from like that brunch, like 11 a.m. all the way until four in the morning. >> It's a real city. We have real drugs, bro. It's not, we don't like smoke weed. >> Yeah, y'all, oh no. Y'all. >> Yeah, y'all. >> Y'all on a harsh night. >> Yeah, you guys are out here. >> It comes here first. >> And that's what's in these videos. >> Yeah. >> I see drug abuse. >> Yeah. >> That's a little bit of mental. Just a little bit. >> Yeah. >> Just a little bit of, you know. >> This is Patriotism. I mean, this is beautiful. >> Look at that. >> That's an epic shot. >> As America. >> As America's team, right? What is on the flag? >> Something's on there. >> That's not, we don't get worried about it. >> Oh, yeah. >> It's not make a political statement. >> We're coming together. >> There's something on that flag. >> Yeah, there's something on that flag. We want to talk back to blue. >> It's always like he had it in his house. >> Yeah. >> Something, you know, you can't like plan. >> No, it's amazing to see how you feel, man. >> So I really feel this is a win for America, right? >> Yeah. >> It is a win for America. >> This is a win for America. >> Why do you feel like that? >> Cuz like New York is America. Like all the other states are just like, you know, y'all there. But this is, you know, you know what it is. >> If New York is up, the country's up. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I mean, this is crazy. This guy just crowdsurfing on the street. >> Right, and they caught him. >> They caught him. >> They caught him. >> They caught him. >> Come on. >> They're trying to leave. They haunt him. >> This is what there's one to one. >> And this is just the Eastern Conference. >> Fight, y'all. >> We win the finals. >> They really got to shut down the city. >> No, I saw that. >> I literally, my car, my car was fine. >> You would buy that bus? >> Literally. We were about to leave and make a left out of there. And they were saying the barricades are like, we can't go left. Like, they made us go straight. And they're everywhere. That bus driver and that prebo's bus was turned. He was up in the window hung up. >> Oh. >> And he's the reason that everyone's like, yeah. And then when the clock expired, the game like all the cops were like, "I hate them so the whole street was crazy." Like, this is a problem, you guys. This is your control? >> Yeah. >> This is crazy. >> I love this shit. >> You know when he blew up all the bridges and back, that's the only way you're going to stop hand-amonium in New York. >> They're going to tear up the statue. >> Liberty. >> Yeah. >> They're going to tear up. What's that? >> Moynihan, they're going to tear that up. >> Where did you watch the game? >> I was at my house. And what was the emotional breakdown quarter by quarter? >> I mean, it was a blowout by half. So it was really just like, don't fuck it up. >> They won by like 40. >> Yeah, it was crazy. >> I know, but the paranoia of New Yorkers specifically. >> I didn't answer a good chat until there was three minutes left and a fourth. >> Fast. >> A lot of people have been like, three minutes left and a fourth. >> They're like, don't talk to me about it, because they tore my heart out many times. Literally my hands were doing that. The dance sorter is at the cell at home. He's like, "Hey, you guys are up 20." And I'm like, "Dant, don't do this, right?" >> Right, do not ruin this right now. Everything is okay. Everything is okay right now. >> So yeah, I'm absolutely terrified. I'm still fucking terrified. I'm putting on like fake bravado. >> Who's on the other side, dude? >> What do you mean? >> Are they still playing? >> They are, yeah, yeah. >> Okay, so you're right now, right? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Where does Calci have the Western conference? >> Like odds. >> Can you pull it, I'm out? >> They still got okay, see up? >> Yeah, okay, see this. >> 61% San Antonio at 40%. >> Yeah, I think, I don't know why I think San Antonio got it. >> So it's either the alien or the rest. >> Or the rest. >> So here's the thing about like if okay see play, and you probably got animosity for okay see, because they used to be the sonics and they left your ass. >> No, I have just nothing for them. >> You feel nothing, nothing, not at all. >> Not at all. >> There's not a little nostalgia play. There's not like that. You see my franchise and they yanked it away from me. >> Of course, there's no nostalgia. There's no nostalgia. >> Yeah. >> They brought, they had a Durant game. And they just like, whatever team Kevin was on at the time, they came back and played in Seattle. And it was just like, it was like we were back. >> Yeah. >> It was just to watch Kevin Durant. >> You know what is kind of crazy, it's like great sports city, Seattle. >> To lose the franchise is almost peculiar. >> I don't know. >> But I just don't understand. >> We didn't even know they were for sale. It was like July 2nd, 2008. And kids were trying to get into the arena. And they just put it. Somebody just came up and taped a lined piece of paper, college rule piece of paper. They're now in Oklahoma City. >> Yeah. >> Dirty. >> Go find her. >> Dirty. >> Wow, we're bad. >> They're out there. >> Apparently that was the Starbucks guy. Howard Schultz. >> He did what? He sold it. >> According to the Chatcha B.T. he says he owned the sonics. The team was looking to put down, you know. >> And wanted a major renovation. >> The major renovation.
He might have a tee, but he might have a tee. - It sounded, how'd you say his name? Howard what? - Shultz. - I don't hear a tee pronounce, man. - Shultz. - Yeah, it is a lot of tea, man. - Too much tea in that, fuck that guy. - Fuck Starbucks. - So in order to upgrade the arena, he tried to do this whole thing, but officials didn't want to give him a deal. So in 2006, he sold the team to OKC, led by Clay Bennett. - Can someone explain this shit to me? Why is it that we always have to pay for the arena to get upgraded? But we don't own the team. - I don't know, but Green Bay owns their team, and I'm just jealous sometimes. - Yeah, but that's the only way they're going to have a team there. - Yeah. - 'Cause if it was one guy that own that team, that team would be in Vegas already. - Yeah, that's for sure. - The only way you could keep a team in Green Bay, Wisconsin is if every single person at town owned a piece of that team. - I haven't had a good time in Green Bay. - You thought shows? - Yeah, I've been out there. I haven't had a good time yet. - Why? - I don't know, it's just like it's not my speed. - I feel like everybody's got the inward on tip of their tongue. - Where else do you put it? - What part of your tongue? - What part of your tongue do you put it in? - Can't put it in your tongue. - I had a tip for you because you want to say it real bad. Speaking of, what do you think of the roast? - I was there, man. I thought, first of all, I don't think you might somehow how easy it is to just get caught up in the moment. 'Cause it was like a comedy Super Bowl. - Yeah. - And a lot of while she was getting said, but you're like, okay, you're eating a charcoony board off a table with a camera in your face, you know what I mean? - Oh, did they catch you laughing at some crazy show? - On the live feed, I was in it like seven times according to my nieces and then ended up staying on, I guess it was three or four times. - Really? - So they were like, did they get shit for laughing at stuff that is and no, no, no, no, no. - I didn't get shit for laughing. I think one of my big ones, like I was cracking up hard and they caught me, but it was when Cat Wayne said something about cat. - But it was like, if people got to understand like, what people are, 'cause if you've anyone seen it, you've seen that there's been like, I don't know if you call it hate or, you know, back then. - Yeah, there's some backlash. - Yeah, but this thing was three hours long. And so if you took the time, I took to say, everywhere that pissed people off or whatever, it's like they're mad about about 50 seconds of content out of the whole thing. And I said that on, when Shia Le Mans asked me on the breakfast, I'm like, I feel like, hence Cliff had it, he didn't need that last joke. - Yeah. - He had it. He had every household. - He had every household. - He had five times the last one minute than anyone else. - Yeah, he was like, he was nuts. - He had notes, so he was going teleprompter from his mind, from his notes. Like he was like, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. And then at the end, he says the George Floyd thing, I literally was like, I turned a deal on calls. He had to do that, he had to, he had to, he had to country, get everyone. And then he's like, and by the way, tear back in hat. He had everyone. - So you think there was nothing else that he said. You think that he would have been just unanimous best part of the roast. - You didn't go there? We might be nitpicking over something else, he said, but it wouldn't have been something that is so blatantly, like both sides, like, yeah, even the fuck. - Yeah. - I'm saying, it would have been easy to be like, your trip and funny is funny. Like, like some of that stuff was like, eh, well, paper, yeah, that ain't that fun. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? But it wasn't necessarily to say, you know? I mean, look at how hard he, he went so hard, he just lobed Cheryl's second career. (laughing) - You know what I'm saying? Like, she's back, she got a pull on Netflix special. - She killed it. - Absolutely. - And she's a beat. - She'd been a talented for decades, man. That's it. Like, I was a kid watching Cheryl. - Both. - So that's what I'm saying, like, and it was, it was epic, because she said, everything that needed to be said. - Yeah. - And then got a chance to defend herself. And then you saw her going to having fun. And then telling everyone why it's okay to have free speech. She kind of touched on all four things that needed to be said in the moment. - Yeah. - But, you know, the first, if Tony didn't go that far, that hard, I don't think that is received just as much, you know what I mean. - You think that was the one thing that framed it? - 'Cause it seemed like, I don't know, like there's been some people talking about it. - Yeah, I mean, Cheryl, she's been talking about it a lot lately. - What did Chelsea say? - So, she's really like saying like she's, she's like casting them out badly. - Yeah, I mean, she's like, they're sexist, they're bigots, they're, there's nothing to do with what's funny. And she even brings up what Cheryl wasn't offended by as she would be. - So she's trying to tell Cheryl what she's offended by. - No, you can watch it right there. - Yeah, she's on par with Dion, and this is basically what she said. This clue got like 14 million views. - Did it? - But, yeah, I mean, one crazy viral. But this is basically, we can cut through a couple parts, but. - Tony Hinchcliff and Shane and their backgrounds, I had girls, ex-girlfriends blowing out my DMs that had dated Shane and were telling me stuff about him. So based on that, I was like, oh, these guys are pretty bad. - So you asked something on him that you used by him. You pittered. Tell us math. What? (laughing) - Yeah, I think so, they're really serious. - They're biggest, but there's sexist, you know, that they think they're like invincible, that they've been canceled for being like, you know, Shane got fired from SNL, but then was on SNL years later. So he got fired. So what happened in between those two events? So he believes, this is part of one of his exes, that he's invincible. He's like, doesn't matter. I could say anything I want. - Yeah, do you think that now, like, by comics, they feel that they could say something racist and is more further than career? - Oh, yeah, they're gonna get into that group of, like, Roganize and that Austin group of Joe Rogan. - She's my daughter, he isn't. - And I just, you know, like, that's their, M-O, even some girl comics have started to do it, to be like, in with that group. - Yeah, man, that Epstein comment hurt her, bro. - Yeah. - That's gotta be down. - The same as she was at the island. But not even the island, she went to, like, a small dinner. Small dinner's works. Like, if you had, like, a big event, he was at, like, if you had Coach Ellis, like, I didn't know he was gonna be a Coach Ellis. - But if you had his house with, like, seven other people. - Damn. - Yeah. - But what if you don't know? You just do not know. - I know who's at the dinner with seven other people. - Maybe. - How many of you have been to with seven other people? - It might just be like, if this is, that's so exotic, you're like, just, trust me. We're going through this bomb ass island. We're about to have dinner. I don't think it was at the island. - Yeah, I think it was at New York City. - It was at New York City. - He's great. - He's great. - He's gonna be able to have this bomb ass dinner. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? - In affairs of Chelsea, I think she talked about in a bunch before this. I think she did, like, in a book and, like, did it in, like, her special and, like, she talked about meeting him before. - So why is she, like, framing them in this light? This is why I don't know what her saying. - Oh, I thought it was the Zionist comment that got her. - Oh, that's what I thought. - I mean, I think that, 'cause right now, that's radioactive right now. - Oh, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. So she's, what is she saying? She's a Zionist and-- - Oh, he said that. - He said it all in one, in her intro. - Yeah, yeah. - Just throw away. - Yeah. - And chuckle all the way through it. - Yeah. - Like, no, I'm serious. - It's funny. - It was really good when dinner fucked up, man. - But anyway, it is funny that, like, she's sitting there saying that, like, Shane and Tony are Nazis. And she's sitting next to Deon Cole, who's literally, like, bringing Kanye on stage, who's selling, like, Nazi merch. (laughs) - Like, there's no conversation about that. - You see a lot of hypocrisy. (laughs) - Guys, here's all of our dates in 30 seconds. June 5th and 6th, I'm gonna be in Virginia Beach, and then August 8th, I'm gonna be in Halifax, Nova Scotia, with SNL's Camp Patterson, Lucas Zelnick, and Mark Gagnon, the address.com for those. And then also, we have the Life Paddle Classic Charity Tournament. June 4th, shout out, NeuroGum, for doing this with us. All the proceeds go to BabyQuest, which is the IVF charity, that my wife and I work with, many other people work with, and just helping people start families. Very expensive process, so it's alleviating that pressure for them. And NeuroGum has the Dad Bundle, the Andrew Show's Dad Bundle, that they're selling right now on their website. And if you buy that, or you just wanna donate, you don't have to just buy that. But the proceeds will be going to BabyQuest, so you can help support. Also, come out to the tournament, it'd be absolutely great. You can sign up, you can play. And yeah, we're just gonna raise a bunch of money for people trying to start families, playing the most fun sport that there is. Awesome, I hope to see you guys there. June 4th, Paddle House in Dumbo, New York. Love you guys, Mark, what you got? - Great news, everybody. I'm going to many, many cities at the end of the year. I'm going to Plano, Texas, Chandler, Arizona, Pasadena, California, San Diego, Detroit, Michigan, and Salt Lake City, Utah. That'll be a wonderful time. And I can't wait to see you guys all there, Alex. - And I'm doing a lot of stuff in New York this summer. We have canceled comedy. We have another cancel comedy show. That is June 24th, head over to cancelcomedyx.com. And then I have another one of my tennis series. That is on July 25th, and you can get that at theallloveclub.com. See you guys there, peace. - And then she goes on and talk about Cheryl and that whole house you've felt about the jokes are then, I think it's written right now. - I'll take it though. Like I'm okay with her being like, I don't want you talking about Lenschen Black people as a joke, even if her, even if the soap box she's standing on is tattered. - Yeah. - Somebody got to say it. - You know what they need to look like us. - Yeah. - Oh, you prefer if it's somebody else. - No, I do prefer if it's us. But somebody needs to keep that going. So it's not like the blacks are still mad. (laughing) - Yeah. - That would be to your anger when somebody else is saying it. - No, it's not. It's not about it. We pissed.
already, but you guys don't respond and you guys being white. You guys don't respond until you see other white people involved. Like look at the history of what it, what it took to get real changed in civil rights movement. Like they had to see some, some white people get angry. Like, oh, okay. Now they've gone too far. Yeah. Yeah. See, saying that white people are the real good guys. But I'm like, yeah, it's just when you get, when you think it's a win, the way you act. Same size party. So I'm just gonna have something to say. But I, you know, I hate that we have to sit back like, do you ever have to battle that? Like, you're like, I'm a comedian. And I say, fucked up things versus. Now I walked to the line of what's acceptable. I might put a toe over and then I back up off of it. Like I'm not. Some people are enamored by what it does across the line. Like what are they going to do when I get on the side of that play over here? Like let's play in this area of like, let's elicit responses. Like the response I want is laughter. So I just want to stand on the funny side of things. Yeah. As far as the black part, like I am, like there's nothing I can do to being put that like comedy segregated. What do you do? Yeah, I mean, would it be comedy segregated? Comedy segregated? Yeah. Meeting what? Like there's black. Honestly, I don't see color. So, like, I've never made any sense. So podcasts are segregated, right? There's so many. Order of fountains. They should have made you ball-rock. You don't see color. You're going to see fun. You're going to be a black character. So let's see how you feel. So you mean like in terms of like there are circuits. There's like the black circuit, the white circuit. There's the Latino now building up. Yes. That's literally what it is. But you've done both. I don't know. I came up in the black circuit. Facts. But why does that have to be a circuit? It's only because of necessity. Black people wouldn't have had to be like, we're going to do it our way over here. Like this, if there was a fair inclusion. I think it's two things. I think it's fair inclusion. But I also think it's like people want to see the comedy that they relate to reflected. So like, if you go to some like main street, I'm performing in theaters that black people weren't allowed in. Like, we're on a new theaters. Was that something we're in a brand spank in this year? No, no. I'm not. They're all old. They're all young. And literally black people weren't allowed. Of course, of course. And we built it. So that's, I was at the rhyming like naked, naked, naked, naked. I don't say anybody. Has it been said by me on this day? Now let's start the show. Yeah, like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mexican's built the rhyming because they redid it. But yeah, I think people in the rhyming have said that were before. A lot. Yeah, a lot. They're like, finally, we went to one theater and they still, because it was like, I never wanted to talk about what you see. It's an Alabama. We were there. And it said, and there's a colored section that they kept up in the back where black people used to sit at shows. We did that one. You remember that? Well, this isn't what I was talking about, but this is interesting. I didn't think black people sit there. I actually should have. So progressive. No, what I saw was there was one that kept their sink. It was like this was a black only sink. And it was in the back. And it didn't work. But they're like, just so you know, like, so all these theaters at one point not allowed. They let mezzanine seating. Then it's like now y'all can come wherever. And then we were allowed to perform. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not that far off. We're not talking. I mean, my dad remembers. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You're a dad remembers. I saw that video y'all walking in mesh. He's old enough. Yeah. My dad is his Alzheimer's. He hasn't remembered that. You don't see color. He doesn't remember color. Oh, that's the best question. Yeah. Yeah. He thinks the world was perfect. You know. But no, it is, it is. Yeah. I guess that is. I don't know. It's also like, it's weird for me because my introduction to comedy was deaf comedy jam, you know, and it was like, I don't even think I saw a white comedy. I was like, I was like aware of like Seinfeld and that. But I never saw Seinfeld stand up. Until late years later, I saw the show first. So it was this like thing that I saw and absurd. And I also grew up in New York. So it was a little bit different. Obviously for me than somebody who like never saw diversity at all. Like it wasn't like a year. You guys are definitely very cultured out this way. Like, but I do agree with you. Like less representation in the mainstream clubs way more now, but definitely less initially. There was always that mainstream. Do you should I'm saying like all of these definitions are because somebody was like, nah, let that be over there. Well, I think they called it mainstream because of that reason, right? It was like, there was called a chitlin circuit when I was coming up, which was like a black circuit, because you guys love that food. Yeah, we give free chill. That's all the shows, dude. That's why I got five minutes of it. I love you. Thank you. I've never got any chicken. She had the parrot inside of shit. I put smokey smokey on my knee. Oh, yeah. I want to talk about that too. If you look at the definition of chillance, it literally is why it's called the chillance circuit. It's the part of the pig that nobody wanted each of it here. Y'all know how to add that. And then they made the most of it. Yeah. And now it became cultural delicacy or whatever. So I'm not trying to like raw raw for like like the black homies. I just wanted, I'm just saying it is. It is what it is. Yeah. And the fact that you have to circumvent and go around or whatever, it's the proof is in the pudding wing. Part of Hollywood goes, let's just go to Austin. Would it explain that? Well, Austin is very red. Austin is not. Austin is like Texas is red. Texas is red. Yeah. Thompson girl was like, what you want is to be in the blue city and a red state. But isn't that every like conservative state? It's like the capital is always like the most like liberal place. You go like the reddest fucking state. Facts, but they're like keep Austin weird. Like they put effort into it. Yeah. That's what being democratic is. Like gave you a marriage. Yeah. It's fucking odd. But isn't Washington like that too? Is Washington the super red except for? No, Washington's blue. I thought Washington was like, where the KKK went or some shit. And then I think he had to think about Idaho. No, maybe Oregon or maybe I think of Oregon. Yeah. Yeah, but for Oregon. Those are the same to me a lot. Yeah. All my dad's like, don't stop there or gas. That's all I say. When I was younger, yeah. Like when we were on college road trips, he's like, there's a lot of places you can get gas, but I wouldn't recommend that for aggression. They've got a high population of skinheads like legit. Just like, yeah, tight black boots, big, type jeans, big boots. Now that you go to Turkey, I feel like that skinhead shit is done. I feel like they don't lead into that a little bit because of, you know, like hereditary reasons. Dreamy too. They had hair over there. Not the ones that were in the boots. They didn't. I thought they had, they used to say, my hair cut looked like that. That's back in a day, the old one. We're talking about the deal. We're talking about sideburns now. I guess. That was a thing. I knew nothing of it. I was like, who the fuck is that? But no, it's just a great thing. That's why I like kudos to you. I give roses because you come up cultured, right? Like bet. Matt Rife, right? Matt's little Ohio Katie's been, I mean, came up cultured. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's not like, it doesn't feel like because of a thing that successes. I'm just saying, like it's like, this is how crazy it is. Chocolate sundaes. Yeah, yeah. Mo better Mondays. Chipotle Tuesdays. Wiling out Wednesdays. Crack them up Thursdays. Those are the black shows in LA. And you can legitimately do those. Your whole life. Yeah. And never do the star of chocolate sundaes come down on a Tuesday. They're going to be like, you all right? You must be here for a check. So just to describe some really bright Wednesdays. Yeah, but this is just that's what your video's brand. I know. I know. Slavin comedy. Okay. That's everyone said. One of that's the Filipinos. Really? You think I'm making it up. College night. College night. Yes. We're somebody from each one can pop in on the Friday. It's called all stars. Yeah, but there's never white people in the all-star game. Have you seen it all-star game? We want to call something called the enhanced games. Yeah, but he's German white. He's like, we don't really claim foreign white. Yeah, I don't count. I mean, like Luke is kind of way, but look where the look where the the one black show that's the one. No, I do. Black show is at the store. What you're describing was the LA comedy scene where there was like a night. There was a black night for all these different days. It was. It's still like that. Yeah, but like, what's changed? Do you think it has the same cultural impact that it did maybe 10, 15 years ago? Like, I remember those nights, to be honest, with the only nights that the clubs were sold out during the week. Now you talking that shit. But like, this is okay, how the ministry don't go to those nights. So here's the thing that's interesting to me, is that industry did start to go. And then those guys did start to pop on. And then those guys started to become part of the all-star lineups. And then all of a sudden, now the mainstream show, where the all-star show or whatever you call it, then now it's just a kind of normal show where everybody's involved in it. And then that took, I think, some of the heat off of the black
nights. I don't I think that they went to black nights and they didn't grab. They grab who would say. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, like I'm from Seattle. I see it all. I'm black, but in a wildly diverse and or heavily white area, you just see it. I just see it. So you think they're telling me the crowds are there on black night. Why aren't the cameras I'm telling you were there. You just said it. I'm telling you what for the last 50 years in common, let's go for as long as we could perform publicly. Yeah. Who's been the top five grossing comics? Oh, I mean, yeah, no question. But like, no question of what, who it's been like color wise? Sure. I mean, in the last few years, maybe it's different. Facts, you hit the scene of Shane is also absolutely crushing it, you know, and all of that's fine, but I think that you're talking about ship hell, right? Everyone is welcome to do stand. I don't want to be like, Oh, I'm a separate. I'm separate. I'm just I'm saying, here's what I see. Yeah. And then I know my own journey. Well, pull it back even before because I think this is an interesting. So back in a day with the clubs on the road, there would be like a week and a month that they had like a quote unquote black comic coming from what I've been told that weekend would pay for the rest of the weeks of the clubs. I've never heard of that. Wow. Wouldn't doubt it though, because the whole community would come out. And again, this is a community thing. Like you've seen it also with like Latinos, you've seen it with Asians. It's like when a community has representation, and I think one of the things that happens is like when whiteness is ubiquitous, you need to be like specific about your wike. Like whiteness doesn't have a culture around it has like, OK, here's like white nerd culture. Here's white angry at women culture. Here's white blue collar culture. Here's the, what were those guys that did like, it was called black comedy to a blue collar, right? So it's like, now you need to be like specifically niche within it. And I think that's also starting to happen with non whites, which I think is very cool, right? Which is like, OK, here's a black nerd archetype. And I'm going to build a fan base around that. Here's the hood superstar. Here's the black like a fisticate, whatever. Like to me, this is the, what happens when something becomes bigger than just the niche group. Right. But there's certain acts that are for everyone. Yeah, exactly. But back in the day, it was like one black comic that would come to the club and the whole community come out. Trust me, I get it. But what I'm saying is in the black community, we don't get to have those different, whatever. You're just the black guy. But I think now that's starting to happen. You got on glasses. There's one got a book. You don't see it. Oh, my gosh. You need a black to me, Trevor. Chocolate Sundays. Basketball tournament. Yeah. This is a thing. But do you feel like it's changed at all or do you think like for me, like you're a perfect example of you building your own audience, people coming out. Now you're doing these venues that like maybe would not be afforded to certain people 10 years ago, 20 years ago, they're in your position. You just proven through commerce that's basically like they have to come to you if they want people to come to the club. 100%. But that's not my goal. I'm from a place that's very not black, right? Like my like my crowds are 40, 40 and 20 black, white and then other. Like I have very diverse crowds. Yeah. Right. I can tell when a club puts me in the lets market them urban, right? I get how? How? How? Well, first one, there's not enough ranch for the customers that are coming. That's first. I had to tell Gary Attenham. It's facts. I had to tell Gary Attenham stop ordering chicken and order pepperoni pizza. He's like, you know, I'm so glad you call me to me that because we were leaving into the chicken order. I said, you know, the crowd's not going to be all by. It affects everything. Do you even think about that? Because you own a club, so you get it now, right? I'm telling you this is I know what that's got order is so funny because I remember early in my career, my crowds were majority black, right? I was doing like damn TV shows and I was doing brilliant idiots with Charlemagne and I remember having this moment every single week and it was my first time in a club. Yeah. We had the owner or the manager would come to me and he basically be like, he'd say like, wow, there's a lot more black people than we thought without saying that. He would think the diversity. They say the same thing to me, but they don't know how to say it because when people say diversity, it's white with other people. That's just called, I guess y'all welcome to the barricade. He's like, it's just like, just funny. He's funny. I'm saying funny, right? Like what I saw was my videos, if I'm interactive, interacting with Sam Owens or white people or gay couple. Like that pronunciation. Yeah, that pronunciation right there, the Sam Owens. Yeah, Sam Owens. Yeah, he's got every green outside. That's the barricade. Yeah, that's the barricade. Yeah, that's the blue out. Yeah. But if you look on my page, I'm talking to everyone, funny, I'm looking for the funny in your life, in your life, so that's who's coming because you feel welcome if you see a video, I'm like, okay, he's not rashing gaze. He's at least talking to us and having fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I'm, I'm inclusive in that sense. And so it's a trip when I see that with me as being inclusive, as inclusive as I am, how I can be marketed because somebody in their mind was like, he's black brother, not used to it. It's just like, and it's something that, who's not used to it? The clubs, I think. No, it's not that. It's just, they think it's the archetype. Right. So they go, why do they think it's they are? No, they're not used to me coming in breaking them what they thought was the more facts. You know, I can see every time. We're in some part of our events. We're like, just so you know, you're about to give us. We have to. Oh, wow. We have to have it in the events because haters going to be not black people here. Yeah, you have to say yes because of the sex in the court order. Try having an Asian headliner and you don't, and you didn't order hell of hands whiskey. What do you mean you out of bottle? Business, this effect, like if people are paying it, it affects it, right? So I can tell when I come and do 13 shows in the Brooklyn improv, 98% black, even my openers are like, what are they doing different? Because this is very, very black. I'm like, what is the club doing different? Yeah. You think that they're promoting you specifically to black people. Conor for you. Cause then I went and talked to the guy doing my game. He was like, I mean, I mean, the, you know, who equals actually. He had. And then like, you're obviously furious because there's only black people there, right? So if my crowds are normally 40, 40 and 20 and we did 13 shows with just black people. Yeah. There's another 13. We're white. And there's another six with non white people missing. This is what we always said. I could have done it. I could have, I don't know. What's the garden hold? 15,000, 18,000. I could have tipped it up to the small configuration. You should do it. You should do it. We should. That way they know everyone's welcome. Listen. Yeah. I mean, I think it's cool what you're doing. Like it's weird. It's like we're always the first people to know what our audience is and who we are. Fast. And it's like, we can be annoyed at the club for not knowing it, but also like they have an experience, this type of thing in comedy, especially if you had a comedy club for like 30 years, they don't know what to think, right? I'm sure like when they, I'm sure when they first had Gary in some of these clubs, they're like, well, wait, what's going? Well, there's all these black women here. What, what? Like there was no expectation of Gary to have that if they're not doing a research. And they do the research on you. But look at the research of his career now. Of course. It's because other is now even to the crowd you had this whole time. He's like doubled up. Yeah. No. Everybody, Gary, Gary Owen, by close your eyes, that's a black headliner. If you go off of the audience, it's sitting there. If you walk out and had to guess who's performing, the black headliner, he's the host of comic view. Okay. Now because of social media and the algorithm and stuff that he's done that different people helped him do. And what he's built in the footwork, the algorithm doesn't look at him and say that same thing. The internet looks at the algorithm goes, this is a white man, send this stuff to white people. Right. So he's doubled that white audience. It lines and it's beautiful. The line is checkered all the way down. Right. And same goes for like a jokoi, hysterical. Yeah. But the internet, that algorithm is going to send him to every nurse in the tri-state area. That's because it is typecasting us. Whoever is at the place, you know, and I can't get, there's no way to be like, hey, Facebook marketing, when I say these interests, I don't mean the black people that are interested in that. Just let me just put, you know, saying, yeah, I'm not going to be running ads to people call the flower felon fans. What are the key words for how we get to the white folks? Because they like laughing at me, which share funny. We have a good time. But they look at, and they're like, oh, big black dude. No, put them over there. But I've always dealt with that. I won the Bay Area Black. And they're like, what kind of black are you from Seattle? But what do you mean you won the Bay Area Black and who is like, what type of black are you? Memphis black people, Mississippi black people, Florida black people, New York black people are like, he did different kind of like, I just, I went to Florida Memorial College in the undergrad, straight out of high school. It was my first time seeing more [BLANK_AUDIO]
types of black people, because in Washington, you got, I moved here to raise my children to blacks. And then you got, look, it is what it is, that's it. Those are the two black people, okay? I got to Florida, tell us, tell us. I mean, got Florida right here, so then you know I'm talking about it, it's the Caribbean. I mean, I met Trinidad, Tobago's, I met Jamaica's, I met Jamaica's from New York. Jamaica's from Jamaica, and they had beef. We call it ox tail, but yeah, you have to call it that's wild. I met Haitians. So that was the first time you met black people with an identity. I had a culture shock as a black man. But his identity outside of American blackness, because that's what you're describing with people. No, but these were all Americans. Yeah, but they're, they're identity, it's like when you meet an Italian, they could be from Jersey, they could be from New York, but they have this identity that is outside of America, and outside of being white in America. And the same thing exists when you meet a Nigerian, the grew up here, Jamaican, etc., there's like this other culture that is framing their world, the way that they eat, the way that they interact with, they speak. And when you're growing up in Washington, what do you do with that? You call it a time from Italy, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What do we call an Italian from Italy? Yeah, yeah, Wapua, I don't know, what do you call it, something like any of us, what else was it? So, I think that's like the fact that we have that in, but someone on the outside is like, those are Italians. Well, that was the interesting thing that happened with Sebastian, do you get that? Yeah, on the outside of those are Italians. I would know those are the Jamaicans and they're like, Rosclad, Jamaica, Jamaica, New York, Jamaica. New York, New York, New York, New York, New York, New York, New York, New York, >> Jersey Italian. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Jersey Shore. That's different, right? >> Brooklyn Italian. >> That's different. They act different. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, but I'm sure that's the Italians. >> Now, but you know, like when you grow up in the city, you know that. >> That's why I said New York is the exception because you guys don't have a choice. >> Yeah, you just have to have your city Jews walk it. >> You see people living on their lifestyles. >> Yeah, you gotta at least get familiar. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it's wild though. >> So, but even then there's different types of Jewish people. >> Yes. >> Right? >> Yes. >> But if you don't know, you're like them the Jews. >> Right. >> And they have to tell you like, well, no, I'm different comments. >> I'm sitting here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Okay. So, if that's what it is, then please know it's the same thing for blacks. >> But you have to be like those are the blacks. >> Yeah, yeah. >> It's chocolate. >> Do you mean Dominican blacks aren't even black? >> It's effort to be like, I'm going to show that I'm not just with the black's black. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to go out of my way to go to the other nights. I'm going to make a point to not just go where they tell me I'm welcome. I'm going to go everywhere. >> Yeah. >> And the person that does that does sound move, talk and walk different. Maybe it's a more cultured or whatever. >> Yeah. >> But they just do. Like, I see a cultural difference between Cat Williams and Chris Rock. >> Of course. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Of course. >> There's somebody pulling some strings that does it. >> Yeah. >> But blacks. >> You also didn't see it until you went to school in Florida. >> Facts. >> Mm-hm. >> So, it's an education process. >> Which I'm not knocking that. >> But I think that. >> And you were the education process for a lot of these people. >> I'll take all of that. >> But if you own a comedy club for 30 years, if you're in the industry, there's no excuse. >> Well, there's also racism. I don't know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's also a reason saying that. >> Yeah. >> All of that to get back to explain. >> Yeah. >> When you're asking for Friday Saturday and they're like, but you're black, we're going to put you on Sunday. >> Yeah. >> You're Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Saturday. >> Yeah. >> You guys go during the week, you sell it the whole thing and it pays for the whole month. >> The deals are different too. Interesting. >> For sure. >> You weren't just getting a whole door, even when you did during the week. >> Who? >> You. >> Like if I threw my own show. >> If you were doing like a weeknight, they would obviously give you the majority of the door. >> By the time I was eligible for door deals, yeah. >> But then you're doing weekends anyway and then you just. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But there's some leapfrogging that happened with me and the internet. But I own a club. I own the biggest black on comedy club in America at 280 seats. I get the calls from the agents that are like, do you want this person? I wish I could say name so you would understand. They're like, here is African American female beast for X amount. That's doable. Also, if you have a weekend open for unknown, never heard of white guy, 85%. >> Interesting. >> And then what do you have to say? >> Are you out of your mind? You're paying her that and him that? >> Why wouldn't you be offering me his deal for her? >> That person has 30 years in comedy. That person has hysterical. That person's like, what's the difference? >> Yeah. >> And it's not even about asses and seats. You just got this person's 30-year career set up to be a half-papered forever. >> Wow. >> Interesting. >> Even though that person's a draw and you know that that person's going to sell it no matter where they go. >> It's not about selling out at that point. >> I mean, for- >> No, white guy wouldn't know draw. They're like, let's grow it together. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> So even though they're marketing clients to you. >> You don't even know it. People don't realize it. >> People don't realize it. >> And that's what I'm saying. When I'm sitting here talking, I'm not. I could easily be like, he's all wound up. Or I could literally be seeing this shit every day. And then when I go into the city and I see 100% black audience, I'm like, somebody missed something. >> Or if it's all white, I'm like, okay. We went through hard the other way. >> Got it. We're just liars. >> It's called a fly. >> All right, guys. Stay break for a second. I'm going to be honest here. I did not realize how much water quality actually matters until I switched to joley. Okay. Sometimes you can be doing all the right things. You're using good products taking care of your skin, your hair or something still feels off. And that's because most people don't realize how much water quality actually affects everything. 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Who's this? Who's the start of this, let's fill myself and put it on like, did you see someone do something? Russ. Russ, the position. Russ, really? I thought you were going to say, Russell Peters. No, I mean, shout out, Russell Peters and Russell Peters gave me a glimpse. So, like, early in the career, it was basically like, I wanted to make it through like the traditional ways or whatever. Get a premium blend, get a fucking Comedy Central, half hour, all those things. I was never, you know, give them any of those opportunities and like, so.
But they wouldn't put me on the channel. Exactly. So I go on black entertainment television. So I couldn't even get on that. Right. Well, I did. I got on MTV too, which was basically black MTV too. They just didn't want to say it like that. But and it was awesome. And we got all these crazy things. And then I did the pie with Charlemagne and Charlemagne is just the fucking man. And like, you know, all of this is downstream from him, by the way. And, but like, I, you know, I was able to kind of build up a little audience online. And then there was some maybe residual of the MTV stuff. But I was never like really selling out with the MTV stuff. I tried to do one more shows like for vice or something. I was like, well, this should don't work out and put everything online. And I put out a special that I couldn't sell anywhere online. And then the next weekends, I like sold out a club, but it was like paper sell out either way they came. Bro, you know, back in the day, if the room is full, I moved the needle and plus the people don't know anyway. They don't know. They have no idea. They have no idea. They only want. They only want to think that they didn't pay. Yeah, he's one of them. I gotta hit you. Yeah. Exactly. So I put it out and then I saw Russ doing this thing where he put out a song a week. I saw that too. And I was like, I don't know what it was, but he was on it. He was on it. And I was like, I'm not working hard enough. So I started putting, I was like, I'm going to do 52 weeks of comedy. And for every week, I put out a new clip. And I was just cutting them myself a lot. Same. And captioning was a bitch. I didn't, so at first, I didn't understand captioning. And then we figured out the idea was basically like, most people are watching this shit on the subway or the bus. So they can't put it loud. You know, they can't have the volume on unless they're, I'm like, they're sneaking at work. More sneaking at work. So I'm like, okay, we need to at least engage in so much. So there's other things that we started to like find, you know, different things. Some things happen by accident. Like when we were doing a turn your phone videos, we just didn't want to re-edit the whole shit vertical. So we were just like, turn your phone. And it was so funny, like the way that people reacted, they were like, they found an engagement hack. When you turn your phone, you can't. And we were like, that's what we did. But anyway-- I thought that was so ingenious. That was Mark and I and Alex and just like just locked in a fucking room and shot a Robbie slogan. But like we just put out, we just put out content and then things start to build and it built in the coolest way because it just sent it to people who fucked the content for those for when I did a turn your phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Had to be. It was just too much. I was like, how big is this motherfucker's brain? I was sitting on my toilet like, God, shit, this is a lot worse. Very small brain. But yeah, it was like, anyway, putting the stuff out there and then all these different people got to access the content. So when I did hit the road, it wasn't just like, hey, let's build this act together. Like they used to, you know, kind of like pitch the clubs back in a day. We were able to get people in. They still do it. But then you got diversity right away. But so I-- But so you got the internet that's like, I like this guy. Exactly. And I hate to say, but the internet doesn't see color unless we literally make it effort-- We force the show. Yes. And if you don't force it to, everybody's just going to come to your stuff because you're watching it all in private. Yep. And even if even if you're a little old white lady and your whole community, there's no black people. Yeah. In that, would you get in the right algorithm, you're like, this is my thing. So then when that person's coming to town, here's a little white lady at a show where you were like, OK, I did a show in a theater. They had another theater. William Shatner was there. OK. The staff was like, literally couples were coming up. And they're like, you guys going to see William Shatner? Yeah. No, I'm not going to see Nejax. Yeah. You guys go like, my manager's assistant dad and his girlfriend came. These were like, really old white. They just came out and they just started guiding them to William Shatner. Like through both lobbies. I wear you sitting. Yeah. They're like, we're here for Nejax. I'm like, yeah. Really? Oh, we'll go back that way, follow the black. Like that. Like that. And so that's the most genuine form of it. I agree. But what I am concerned with a little bit is like now that there's so much content on the internet and I just stand up in an effort to get it to the right people. The algorithm gets more sophisticated. And then I think you lose a little bit of the diversity. Like the algorithm doesn't take a chance like it used to where they would just send a clip that you did to Filipinos that got nothing to do with Filipinos. But they're like, they like stand up. So they'll probably like this thing. Now I think it's getting so specific that it might send it to the exact group they think will like it. And then you lose a little of this cool flavor of somebody experienced something that had nothing to do with them, they actually enjoy. So I'm like, there's a little part of me that goes like, does everything just become heightened in a specific niche, especially in this time? Yes. Are you noticing the same thing? Not a lot of. Yeah. I put out like 40, I don't know, I think I'm putting out some between probably three hours and some between three and four hours of material a month. It's crazy. It's going out. Yeah. Well, it's the volume is, and so I know it's getting nitched off, right? The items in. It's healing, right? Yeah. But I make an effort to be like, we're posting the fishing video, we're posting the video with the amputee, we're posting the video with the gay couple like, oh, interesting. So you have to come out and be like, fighting back against where the algorithm wants to send you. I'm paying attention to what the internet's doing and I'm adjusting my set, which is what we all do, right? Like you saw, I sat down on stage, I used to, I'm very physical, it's the biggest physical guy. Big old just running around me and it's akin to like a Rodney Perry. And then I ran out of the video, I ran out of the damn screen, I ran off camera two, three times. Let me sit in my fat ass down. So then I sat on the stool and that's why they're like, doesn't he even stand up? Right. Because I didn't have people, I just had a tripod, I sat it in the back, I ran off and with nobody was there to be like, get back between those lines. Now it's different. But yeah, I remember those days, and you got the tripod on the back, half the clip got like a server, and she didn't even serve it, she's just like watching the show. Yeah. Like you can't be upset. In the way. The people laughing and the camera shaking, you know, like this is, but this was at a different time in the internet where like rough things were really valued because people thought that they were almost stealing going, I get to watch, you're staying up for free, I could only watch that on HBO, I could only watch that on Comedy Central. And then we were serving, yeah, not to get caught up in nostalgia, but like there is a beauty to the roughness of it, you know, I always think about like, how do we bring an aversion of that back where it feels heightened, but it has that intimacy of the early days. I thought of a couple of ways to talk to me, stop bagging up phones and encouraging the film. Mm-hmm. Bro, I want you guys to start filming when you leave home. Yeah. You send film from the hall, like make it a vlog, and I want to see it from your little dirty angle with the fat guys ear in your shot and all that, like you're just getting a hug. Like it's, you know, because we're doing table kills. Like you'll take that table out, that table out, put the tripod right there, there is no way someone's in the way. But if you're like, just like getting golly with it, like you take, and you guys all air drop it to this MacBook before you leave, and then you got this wild footage from all over. Are you worried about losing material? Because I know you're doing a lot of crowd work, but like, I don't know, that's the conversation we have a lot. I don't post jokes, I don't, but I have, like my set right now, I'm trying to get it back down, but I'm doing like 88 minutes on average right now. And so there's like 35, 40 of just, I just come out on the ass, pause, and then I'll open it up to crowd work. But are they, so basically, whatever you give people is their expectation for you. So if you give people crowd work, they're going to go, okay, this whole show is going to be crowd work. >> But they're for sure online being like, all he does is crowd work, and people like, go to a show, it's way more. >> No, I'm saying when they show up. >> Yeah, I've had that too. >> And are they upset when they don't see it in a way? >> Not sure if they get it. Got it. >> Okay, jokes, so it's not like, it's not like me doing my material keeps it here, and then I go, all right, crowd work, and then we come up here. >> Your material is conversational in the same way. >> No, I'm ripping. I am sweating wet, wiping my brow, and then I'm like, are you motherfuckers ready for some crowd work? After that, then they're like, oh, the other night I was like, you get out one in the crowd work? >> Yeah. >> But he didn't even realize. I came out. >> Yeah. >> I'm trying to set hunger that young, you know, when you're like, I got to kill, I still have that. >> Yeah. >> And now it's a chip to where I'm like, okay, y'all think of the crowd workers. How can that possibly be better than something that I look at twice? >> Yeah, yeah. >> Also, how can it be raw? Like, if it's the second time I said it, I'm trying to channel how I said it so that it felt as authentic the first time. >> Right. >> The crowd work is the most authentic, purest form of stand-up period. >> Mm-hm. >> Otherwise, you're just, you're just, you're a telephopter. >> Yeah. >> You get him saying? >> Yeah. The push back, the push back I would say is that like, I don't think that a joke you really believe in and care about is inauthentic. I think that, I'm creating that moment. >> But I wouldn't say that. >> Push back, I'd say that's just a different conversation. >> Yeah. >> If we're talking about material, bit, like you're talking, let's say the material is about your father, right? >> Yeah. >> Like how can that be an authentic? >> Exactly. >> Right? >> Yeah. >> But, if you talk to somebody and right there, they tell you they have all kinds of things. >> That is yours. And then you are pulling from your, of course. >> Yeah, of course, of course. >> Which you know about it in many ways. >> I think people not crowd work and I don't think it's fair. I think there's a lot of frustration.
around comics who maybe they don't, there's one a lot of shitty crowdwork out there, but there's also a lot of shitty just jokes out there. But I also think that there's a lot of comics who like they just don't feel inclined to talk to the audience. They're really not curious about the audience and they don't then maybe not good at it, but they see crowdwork as the way to succeed. So there's like a little resentment maybe for it. But I think if you're genuinely curious about the audience and you enjoy the interaction, you shouldn't shy away from it. Like because some people are being critical of it. I feel the same way about impressions. Like some people hate impressions. They're like, it's not stand up. It's cool, but it's not a joke. But then there are some people that do impressions that have jokes built into it brilliantly and you're like, that's unbelievable. So I just think there's levels to all these different styles of comp. >> I think people are upset or frustrated by crowdwork just because they see so many clips of them. Like those are the clips that people are putting out more than their actual. >> Because that's what you can create. You can't put the four hours of jokes out every week. >> So now people are just like, oh, this is what everybody does now. >> Well, that's what I was tempted to do because like I like how Josh Johnson is like, I'm going to focus on this one thing and lock in and just end game in. It's all good. He has a writer's table. I don't think Josh does. >> I'm sure it's on him, but I'm just talking to shit. But I'm just like getting me like on what flight did you write that hour? >> Well, here's what he has that you don't have is autism and with a pen to paper for seven straight days, it's been an hour of new material about. It's unbelievable. >> Yeah, we were asking him like, yeah, how do you do it? He was like, that's just all I think about. >> He told us. He was like, I just spent the whole week working on it. >> He also said he has like memory tricks to remember it. Like he was like, I create these like memory loops in my brain. I'll think of a word that's the first letter of each chunk and I go through the word and hit all the letters. >> Like new onically. >> Yes, so he was set list. It's cars, women, turtles, and he memorizes CWT. >> Exactly, exactly. >> Something like that. >> If people do that for scripts too. >> Right. >> Yeah, basically. >> And he's got a script. Then he got to remember every week. >> Right. But even when I'm breaking down sides and stuff, we're about to go acting to a scene and I'll take the most powerful word from each whatever, each block, and then I'll remember it. >> Right. >> You need triggers. >> Yeah. >> It's miraculous. There's somebody out there that goes, another black. >> Should we read some feelings of facts? >> Yes, let's read some feelings of facts. Have you seen the enhanced games? People online are panning it. But basically, it is a- >> Do you know what it is, the enhanced games? >> I just bought stock in it. >> Did you really? >> Are you shitting me? >> No, not good. >> I did it. >> Not good. >> I mean, they're just trying to pump up peptides, right? That's all it is. >> That's not peptides. >> Well, they're trying to get people to- What I imagine is the people who are owning the enhanced games are also deeply invested in all these pharmaceuticals that help you. >> Is that today? >> Yeah, that's in the red, my boy. >> They, I don't know. >> How much does that drop though? >> 40%. >> Just 40. >> Yeah, but what's the monetary value of it? >> Right now, it's trading, what is that, like $3? >> $3.18? >> Yeah. >> Actually, I'm more right now. >> Right now, the doesn't know. This is an Olympics that is basically- >> You can use steroids. >> Yeah, enabling and accepting. >> But you can't really use steroids. So there's all these restrictions in it. It's a testosterone can't be over 2,000. Because there's liability. If you just get juice to the gills and someone dies, then it's on you. You can't even use BPC-157. So there's all these peptides you can't even use. >> Okay. >> And then the worst thing that could have possibly happened is the dude that didn't use any steroids in one of the swimming races won. >> Okay, that also happened with the sprinter as well. >> So it's like, what you want is a guy who just ran in high school to get on juice. >> Yeah, but that's what we watched. I say the opposite. So you got a bunch of average Joe's juiced up keeping up with a pure athlete. But this guy was just on his couch two weeks ago. >> But these guys aren't average Joe's. These guys are elite guys that lost to do this not even on steroids. >> So they're elite as well. >> Yeah. >> But what made them elite? >> They're like former Olympians or they're like hot- >> Like this guy was a former Olympian. >> But look at all that meat. I'll come off his back. That's drugs. >> Yeah, that's drugs. >> Right. And without that, but imagine what do you look like without any of that muscle mass. Just an accountant. >> Yeah, because he was an Olympian before all that muscle mass. >> Yeah, what colors below bronze? >> Azul? >> I guess the point is he's like, he won though. Did this guy win? >> I can't, I don't know specifically. >> Yeah, he won like a porpoise. >> No, I don't like the fact that they'd put limitations on his ship. >> Yeah, just let us go. >> You can't. >> Because they'll die. >> Yeah. >> Like all these weightlifting dudes die at 40. >> So we watched some sea fights, people can die now. >> That's why it's white now, bro. Like they can't carry that. >> I think that's a before and after the same thing. >> But I'm just saying, we watch you release. >> We watch you from Deadpool to this? >> Yeah. So Fred Curly ran 100 meter in 9.97. >> I saw that, but how old is this guy? How old was he in the picture on the left? Because that says 20, isn't that 2008? What is that behind it? The Olympics is this. >> I don't know which one that is I can find out though. >> He looks a lot older in the face on the right. >> Yeah, and steroids would do that a little bit. >> Yeah. >> Stereo's an age you. >> Now he's only six months different. I'll be like, okay, to say. >> Yeah, yeah. >> But the claim was that these were going to smash all the records. And I think this guy even said, give me a million bucks. I'll juice to the gills and I'll break the rules. >> Well, that was the thing. If you break a record, you get a million bucks. I think a couple guys might have did it or one guy did it. >> There was one swimmer that did it. I think with the swimsuit that was banned in 2008. >> So that's not even you. >> And so it's not national. It's not recognized by any governing body. Even the ones that would acknowledge a steroids. They're like, well, the swimsuit plus the steroids and then he just beat it. >> So I was talking to his trainer. He basically said the problem is it's like the elite, elite guys don't get that much benefit from steroids because they're already genetic freaks. >> Mm-hm. >> Now we're saying the same thing. >> Yeah. >> Whereas the regular guys like us if we got on juice, maybe we get closer to those guys not on juice. >> You're still seeing shoulder blades and butt cheeks, but you're way closer to the same boat. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Right. >> And I think these people in like 100 meter, for example. Like he ran a 9.97. Usain Bolt is like a 9.5 something or something like that. >> Yes. >> But I think like the high school Texas State Championship would have still beat this guy. >> So it's like- >> Yeah, but there's better steroids guys. >> Exactly. But also now people are saying that the regular Olympics as an allegation is also the steroid Olympics without getting caught. >> Yes, you get off what is it they say you start the cycle and you get off of it within enough time where it doesn't come up in any samples. >> They try to test and it's not like boxing that they can just test them randomly. >> I don't think they test all year. So they stay out of the testing pool and then there's like a few months or whatever they say. Now these guys are all always in a tournament if you're doing it. But the Olympics is once every four years. So there's probably a way to get as juiceed up as possible. Get it out the system. And then when you're in the Olympics, you already own it. >> So people are saying this is the the Olympics is like the enhanced games with the most of elite athletes. Whereas the enhanced games is the second tier most elite athletes with steroids. >> Yeah, so they're like, hey, we're just telling you we're enhanced. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> The Olympics isn't enhanced. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> This is what people are saying. So they're like the Olympics is already the enhanced games. And this is kind of proving that to some people, then other people are going the other way saying, no, this proves that steroids doesn't do anything in the face of elite. >> But that's silly. You can look at a person on steroids and be like, Cal, there's changes, it does something. >> Yeah, it makes you look amazing. >> Yeah, but the enhanced game is in who looks the best. >> But I think people are saying, which I get, but we're taking average people and turning them into monsters and then letting them go out there with gifted people. >> Well, they're not even average. These people are like Olympic competitors. >> But no, they were. That guy is way younger on the left than he is now. I would love to see the difference in age. Plus, the Olympics do train four years, if not eight, or your whole entire life. >> Yeah. >> And this seems like they're like, hey, man, we're about to do enhanced games in six months. >> Yeah. >> Get your needles. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? >> They got to just do it with us. They have to take people who are at most high school athletes and then pump them full of shit and see how competitive they can be. >> And I think some of them are still happy with this. So like, the dude currently, for his name, Fred Curley, I think for a regular event, he might win like 20 grand, if he wins 100 meter, whatever. He, I think he won like 250,000. >> We did. >> Wow. >> So even for him, to not break a world record, to just show up and beat everyone at these enhanced games, he's still got a crazy pay to it. >> Yeah. >> So for him, he's like, yeah, I'll do it. >> Where's his air? >> I know, it's completely private. >> Oh, really? >> He was invited only. >> So how do fun people make fun of him? >> This is why I bet that was like, I'm betting that. Because as soon as they have tickets for sale, I'm, who wouldn't want to go see? >> Yeah. >> Mm-hm. >> A human teradactyl doing gymnast stuff. >> And then people were even saying that this dude started like sinking the water in pretty sure, like that was like what people, like, wasn't going to do. >> That's not, yeah, because he's like so muscle down. >> Yeah. >> He was jumping in the water and like sinking. So to a certain extent, like all this extra muscle mass might be. >> It hurts you. >> A detriment when it comes to like moving to the water. >> Oh, wow. >> But if they figure out that I regimen for a swimmer, it's over with. >> Yep. >> Unless they've already figured it out and that's what they do in the Olympics. >> Mm-hm. >> Interesting, maybe. >> Yeah. >> What else we got? >> Okay, there's a couple other things right here. Hold on, let me pull this up. There's a guy on Fox News that was allegedly wearing a mask. >> Yeah. >> I saw that. >> Did you see this? >> I think the neck was loose. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I'll pull it up right here. This is a- >> But why are we seeing it?
And allegedly, we all saw the net. - Well, well, he wasn't wearing a mask. It was difficult to say it. So this is the-- - He's not going to. - Was he ever the smoking thing? - He's in the position to demand those. So I think in that sense, he controls the narrative and when he would show up-- - So you see the net for here. - Yeah, so we'll say that's a skin flap. - So you see, people see this video plus, they also see Fox News having a history of bringing on people that might not be the people that they're interviewing. So like, there's been a bunch of clips where it's like former and Tifa member talks about how they're going to destroy cities. And it's just like a dude with a mask. And they're like, oh, this is just like an actor or someone that they brought in to like-- - Really? - Yeah to like talk crazy shit. So that's what the whole allegation is that everyone's kind of run with the story that this is a guy wearing a very realistic mask. But now people have come out, specifically with this guy, Dr. Dis-- or Captain Disillusionment. He says this is called like a double shadow. - This guy rules, by the way, if you're watching his YouTube videos, - This brings down Dr. Disillusion breaks down a lot of stuff on the internet. He's very cool. - So he's saying that you have lighting in the studio coming from above that creates this. Lighting coming from below that creates that. And then in certain effects, when you put them together, it will create a shadow from his neck from the collar on the shirt. - Yeah. - Come on to his neck. - Let's go back. - That's a mask, bro. - He's probably a white table. - Hmm. - Nah. - And people are saying that's a shadow coming from the bottom of a shirt interfering with the shadow coming from the top. - Nope. - Nope. - If he had eyebrows, maybe, but-- - No, right. That's a lizard. - Yeah, it might be a lizard, bro. - It doesn't help that he looks like a mask anyway. - It isn't. - And they didn't even finish it. Like, they didn't give him hair. They didn't give him any sort of like, yeah, not a single wrinkle. The guy's seven years old was like, there are other issues with this, 100%. - Yeah. - That's not shadows, man. It's too crispy. - Right? - But this is what people have been online on debate. - How far are you at eight? And the person that known-- - But I don't know. - He sounds like he's wearing a mask. (laughing) Like, those are new lips. That's how it sounds. - But now, the only thing that makes me think it isn't is that if you were wearing a mask, you would have a turtleneck on. Like, you wouldn't unbutton three buttons 'cause you know you're wearing a fucking mask. - He just wants to be buttoned up. Somebody's like, we got to mic you up. It has to be outside of your thing. And he's like, well, I'm a rat. So, how do you want to navigate this now? - But it seems like these are obvious mistakes. That even if you're running some type of sigh up to cover someone up, I'm like, I feel like you would fix that. - Unless that's what they call us to think more. - That's a mistake. That's a mask. - So you're saying mask? - That's definitely a mask. - I'm not convinced. I think it won't be a double shadow. - Oh, did Epstein kill himself also? (laughing) - Come on. - And then go viral. - Yeah. - Hey, it's a mask. It's not me. - This guy's not had eyebrows since 2011. I'm trying to find the whole photo. - He always find a good one. - You got his neck in 2011 though? (laughing) - Okay. Thomas Massey loses his seat in Congress. I don't know if you saw this. - Nate, what do you think about that? - I don't know what we're talking about. - Well, there's this guy who's basically saying like, we should expose all the people that were involved in the Epstein stuff. And he's like, why are we going into this war in Iran? And he's like, why are we ballooning the budget? And then people are like, that guy seems like an asshole. We shouldn't vote for him. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. He was a whistle borer, basically. - Not even. You're just proponent for Epstein transparency. - And he just went against Trump's agenda. - Where? Kentucky. - Kentucky. - It wasn't even, it was a primary. It wasn't even the main election. - Yeah. - So they just brought this guy out of nowhere. I've never even heard of this other guy. Ed gallery. - Yeah, yeah. - For some like that. - Really? - Yeah. Ed's whole thing was like, yeah, let's not expose anything about Epstein and let's send your kids to Dineron and let's pull them back up. And then people can talk to you like, that guy sounds like an American, dude. - That's, that's a, that's a real patriot. - Yeah. - And Trump kind of blew up this whole thing like a small local election in Kentucky into like this national news story. - Yeah. - And used his leverage to get him out. - Then all these lobbyist groups spent fucking waiting for you. - Wait, what do you mean? - It's a dollars. - Like, national. - Yeah, yeah. Trump is going hard being like, we gotta get massied out of here. - Because massied is a Republican, but votes against the party a lot. - Oh, well, yeah. I think that's what time it is. - He votes against the party in times where he should. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. - But they don't want it, he doesn't want anybody to be pushing for exactly. - I know. - So yeah, where I can get you out, I get you out. - But they just spend so much money. They spent $30 million on this fucking - In the little Kentucky, in a primary, in a primary. - Not even the main election. For who's gonna be the Republican candidate? - Yeah, that's insane. - And his group's they got nothing to do with it. - I don't like that. The PACs don't even have nothing to do with the executives. - All the PACs. And the PACs aren't even, they're not even pushing the agenda of the PAC. They're just being like, yeah, this guy is an asshole. - I didn't, I, what I think is interesting is like, if I'm gigging and I'm like in a place, I will actually like be exposed to it, to see how ridiculous it is. But like now it just sounds, this just sounds crazy, shady to me. - Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah. - So now people are very disillusioned. Like anyone that had any summons of hope, we're like, they're looking at a Thomas Mass, you're like a rocon of being like, these guys are fighting the good fight. - Yeah. - The second they do it. - It's more dangerous now though. - Whoa, what are you doing? - Going mad. Now he's his own boss. - Yeah. - It's not his boss anymore. - That's by way of how politics is set up, can make way more noise outside of politics. - So he can keep talking to his shit. - Yeah. - Without the restrictions of the party. - My little king junior, we're in no center. - Yeah. - He was not a mechs. - And people say he's gonna run in 28 for president. - Yeah, that's interesting. - Give me way more agitating if you're not in the system. - Oh, that's interesting. - Yeah, that's a good point. And he's like seems like successful on his own, right? Like before politics. Like until like MIT, when MIT started and sold his own tech company, independently wealthy. - Now we can really focus on agitating, right? Like he was doing his job and being an agitator. Now just agitating. - Just agitating. - And you got the information, 'cause you were on the inside. Like you knew who the Epstein clientless was. I heard him say he was gonna say it before he left, which would be fire. - Yeah, his final thing. - He was gonna say he was gonna drop the ball before he left. - Yeah. - He would like Chessie Handler was there. (all laughing) - Yeah, he said on his final day, he's gonna like outer dog. 'Cause he's also in all these closed hearings, like hearing all the real shit. They're like, I think he went through all the unredacted files and all that stuff. - Yeah. - So it'd be interesting to see. - Why do you know? - Man, light it up. - Colbert officially had his final episode. - Did you watch? - No. Not when it was ever. (all laughing) - Did you ever do a late night? - No. - Was that ever a dreamy yours? - Yes. - Really? - I've liked my own late night show. - Oh, but that's different. - Did you ever wanna do like five minutes as a comedian? - Yeah. - And who was your goal growing up? Like, what did you wanna do that five minutes on? - Well, I was watching, you know, Johnny, 'cause I was a kid in the-- - How long were you watching Johnny? - Who watched Remrens? You don't watch Remrens this time? - I watched you runs a late night? - No, Carson was a different thing. So I watched, I watched Chris-- - There's a phenomenon. - Yeah. - Like you could do five minutes on his show. And if he says, come over to the couch. The next day, everything is different. - Oh, right. - Because there's no, there was four channels. - And there was like 25 million people watching every episode. I think when he got married, they filmed it or something like that. I think I like 50 million people. And the last episode got 50 million people. That's like a quarter of the country at the time. - Yeah. - Like these are insane numbers, really. - That's like small, suitable numbers. - Yeah. - But I wanted to do Fallon just so that I can rock out with like the roots or something after this. - Yeah, yeah. - It was pretty inviting. - Yeah. - I don't know. - You could sing too. - Yeah, not now though. - Why would happen? - That's the last one of voice. Yeah, then 13 shows. - Oh, not now meeting this day. - Yeah. - But like your vocal cords aren't fucked up forever or nothing. - No. - Bro, I saw some-- - I saw some-- (laughing) - No, I saw a clip of you when you were saying, and like you actually have a great voice. - Yeah, I grew up in-- - Did you grow up in the church? - Tenor. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, I could sing. I have two songs that I put out. - No way. - Yeah. - So both about pretty much eating koochi but one of those got-- I got featured. One of we got two short and zero from Texas. And then the other one has Twisted. The song's like, I should keep going. - 'Cause it is possible to be a number one-- - You can make a number one. - I'll need to do more. - Yeah. - I was just gonna actually-- It's like fun comedic songs, like, do well. Like, no, I'm talking about seriously eating koochi. - Yeah. - Nothing fun about it. - Like, this is called beat it up. ♪ Beat it up, beat it up, beat it up, beat it up ♪ - Yeah. - Keep it in the church. - Beat it up that Lord. Beat it up that Lord. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But yeah. So, the other one's called the koochi mace remix. But we don't have to make this but-- - Guys! Sponer time. Blu-choo gold. Some of you have tried it. You already know what time it is. Some of you have not. You deserve it. Your girl deserves it. Your side chick deserves it. Your wife deserves it. Blu-choo. It's the number one boner brand in the business. And they've just made it better. There's only a 15 minute wait for that rock hard dick. 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This is a paid advertisement. Were you inspired by DuVole coming up? - I'm inspired by everybody coming up. - Everyone? - Yes. - There wasn't a single person that didn't inspire you? - I'm just, okay. (laughing) But I find inspiration in that too. I honestly, with me on the club and even running nights or whatever, like I see people that have like, where the vices have taken over their brains and I'm like, inspiration. - Yeah, don't do that. - So what's exactly? - But DuVole did your club, right? - Yeah, two or three times. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - DuVole's a huge inspiration for me. Like, big old jeep for me. Like, he's another person and I should have brought him up or I'm like, "When were you with him?" - I mean, the guy code is, I'm gonna do all forever. - Oh, facts. - Yeah, so I, like, I fuck with him, like. - He was the guy to me that I saw doing comedy on the internet. Like, Russ did the model, but he did comedy on the internet. - He was like the soldier boy for comedy. - Yeah, I mean, like, he just knew audience and knew how to get things out to people, knew how to communicate with the audience constantly. - And still does. - Still does brilliantly. - I think he just throws a bunch of shit against the walker, 'cause he's just high and having fun. And then I'm, but every now and then, I don't know if I have anything to do with it or if he's already masterminded this shit, but like, how he's sitting there squatting in front of that waterfall right now, and then, like, a couple of months back, he just did one fuck around and I was like, "More of this, then throw your own camp flag now." - Yeah. - And now it looks like it's happening. - But he's been doing a camp DuVole for a while now. - Yeah, no, but it didn't feel like that we didn't get that property until recently. - Right, but either way, I'm a fan of it. I'm a fan of, you know, being your own boss. You know, I mean, he's flying a little, he has little planes and all that stuff. - He flew to your show. - Yeah, I think he came when we were doing Jacksonville. - Yeah. - He came, but like, just his understanding of the game, like, even one of the smartest people I've ever met in terms of just like understanding human condition. - Yes. - Pure absorption, right? It's not like he got the chance to go to some fucking, like, fancy school where you just study it all day. Like, he literally watches people and like, sees through them what they actually want, no matter what they say, like, what they actually want. And he's just, yeah, he's just a genius, man. He's just a fucking genius. And he's just like, yeah. - I think he is. - Oh, you remember that? - Yeah. ♪ And I leave you my number ♪ ♪ And you better call a nigga today ♪ ♪ As a matter of fact, you just give me your two ♪ ♪ And which I call you ♪ ♪ Tell you bitch, 'cause who you think you just is ♪ ♪ Who would written on my phone here ♪ ♪ I don't bother them drinks ♪ ♪ But you is my girlfriend ♪ ♪ I don't wanna hear that shit ♪ ♪ Like you just can't love ♪ ♪ Do you ever know it's time I've been just you ♪ - Oh, what a ledge, yeah. - Genius, that's so funny. - Yeah, he came twice and what I thought was the most, he did something really dope, right? 'Cause he came from Florida, he brought like, Erica Dutch's nod and I didn't realize that none of them had seen snow. So he got like a rental car and they drove to Mount Rainier. - I love it. - And it was like, it was like spring or summer. And he posted a view of them throwing snowballs. I was like, what the fuck, where did he go to find sight? - He went to the mountain like, actually let's go to it. - You walk and find snow anywhere, it appears it out. - He's like the most traveled dude. - Very much so. - Like he's everywhere before it's hot. Like when he stops going that's when it will get hot. - Right. - Yeah, like every vacation that I've gone for, he's always there before and you can never like, surprise him with a location. Oh yeah, I was there and they got some really good chicken wings. - Yeah. - That's something he eats fast food whenever he travels. - Yeah. - And we were doing like some empty meal with it. - Because he contrasted it. Like, and I'm like, we're in Germany dude. Why don't we just go have some fucking German food? He goes, man, I'll trust this shit. And I'm like, dude, we're not in fucking Thailand. It's like this is in Germany. Literally everyone on the crew except him got sick. - Yeah, see? - And he was like, at McDonald's like, man you can listen, I know, I travel. (laughing) You guys, I know what happens out here. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's fun. - But what I thought was the dope was probably, it wasn't as he just went and found snow. If that I knew he was culture enough. - Oh, to go look for it. - Yeah, snowboards. - Yeah. - Yo, it was that he wanted to show his openers there. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That he took a whole day, spent whatever. Y'all get in the car. I want y'all, y'all gonna see what in Nod's country have like, "God damn it, you're melting through your teeth." - Oh man. (laughing) - I'm gonna lie down, lie down, lie down. - I'm gonna see it. - Should I take my cup, my hand, I'm starting to cool. I'm gonna lie down, I'm gonna cool up. - It was my fucking upward round trip with the inner city kids. As I watched over, they came and they showed up to the club. I had an actual party in my eye, and I was like, "No, she's not dead, man, what, you wow real a fuck, man." Did anybody call my fuck? And then I'm gonna kill them, man. (laughing) - I remember I went to his place in the Bahamas, and he took me to just like a place in the Bahamas. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's where he flies back and forth. - Hey, that's one of the places I don't go back and forth. And like, and it's, first of all, it's funny like, his level of clout in the Bahamas like, I came there with like, cameras and shit. 'Cause I was doing this like little vlog with him, and I just want to like experience life with him, whatever. - And they stopped us at customs. And they're like, you can't take cameras into the, into the country, like you need like a permit for this. And I was like, I was like, man, I'm just going to hang out, it will do well. And I squirted out the customs first, I was like, ah, he was like, (laughing) I turned out. (laughing) Only failed him. Oh yeah, this is it. - Oh, that's, wow. - Bro, you took me to that water, dude. - This is recent. - I was not. - You have to understand, like he's taking me to places, and I'm like, there's no way I'm jumping in that pit. Yeah, this is this pit. He's like, yeah, just jump in, you're gonna be good. - Yeah, he won't do it first. - He wants him to trust his work. Like if he just, he'll be like, all right, if I go, let's go. (laughing) - Man, the tree is in bad shape. - Man, he's in bad shape. - Come on, man. - This is what we're going to go. - Yeah, just the rope. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh my god, that rope was. - I'm just bunching. (laughing) - That was saying, get this rope? (laughing) - Man, it's not too cold. It's age of the green. - How do you get your shirt off? - I see a present. - It's about 50 feet. You're not gonna touch the bottom. - I just want to put a little more water in it. (laughing) - Some color? (laughing) - Hey, may anybody say you need somebody, y'all. Don't nobody know your white ass here on this black ass out. (laughing) - No, I just like St. Joseph. - You don't want to be? - Maybe they'll go first. - And if you will, just make sure they don't hurt you. - Ain't nobody here but us. - It's not weird that nobody is here. (laughing) - No, but it's like you? Why would you only want this beautiful shit, bro? Come on. - Because I don't let everybody know where it's at. - It's a joke. - It's a joke. - It's a joke. (laughing) - This is hysterical. - It's a joke. - It's a joke. - It's a joke. - I find it. (screaming) - Yeah. - It's a joke. - It's a joke. - It's a joke. (laughing) - It's a joke. - It's a joke. - It's a joke. - It's a joke. - It's never put a butt down. - Now you got climbed the wall with cramps on it. (laughing) - It's on that fucking part. (laughing) - It's the way that shit is all. - Oh man. - What day of the week is this? - It's the weekday, obviously. - Yeah. - We work, so. - But this is years ago, man. - Yeah, but he's got that part figured out. Like that right there. - This is inspiration. I have to have more fun. I'm a, he's gonna live his life. - I'm a worker, huh? - I'm a worker, you're gonna work, I'm the same way, but it's like, if you don't live, you got nothing to talk about. - Facts. - And like, he will prioritize living his life and enjoying shit. And he'll just be on a dock on his property. Smoking weed, looking at the fucking stars. Just enjoying shit, getting emotional, looking at the stars. He had me just sitting there with him, looking at the stars. - I don't smoke. Maybe I should like. - He didn't either, you know, he didn't do it. He didn't smoke or drink or anything like that. I don't think he drinks anymore, but he didn't smoke. And then one day, he's like, yeah, they don't smoke now. - Yeah, it smells fascinating. - But I watch people do it and then they get off track. - You need to have discipline in terms of like, what you're gonna do. - Or you have to be the type of person like a smoke and then still do stuff. - Which I think he is. - He is, I can't. - I'm a person. - I'm just a full vegetable. - You can do shit. - You smoke, you made a whole play out of a lamp. - Oh yeah. - Oh boy. - I took an edible and we were in Portland and then I started recreating the Pixar theme with the lamp. - Okay. - You made the lamp a character too. - The lamp was the character in Pixar. And I thought it was the funniest shit ever. I literally, I was like, I think I got five new minutes broke. The next day they showed me a video of me and I was like, man, I'm not started. Like, I am the most retarded. I could never do it again. - Oh, I was so pretty. - I wonder, I'm being told me that it matters which one day.
you do, right? Like they say in the couch. Yeah, I'm always in the couch. I never smoked weed and I got energy. Yeah, one time I did a sativa and I was creative. But everything that I made up was like trash. Yeah. But it was hilarious in it. So I understand. Yeah. But there's people that are just like always, always on it, always, and I just kept like my uncles like that. He's I my entire life. I've never seen him sober. You're saying like he's he can still be functional. Yeah, he owns a landscape and architect company like it, but I've literally never seen him die. At least always when I. I mean, that is the type of company to own if you if you like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he still has a negotiate and go get paid and do all the things and run a business. But I've just lit I'm telling you my whole life, I'm really kind of having an epiphany right now. I've never seen Dennis not high. Well, you guys do a weekend with Duval in the Bahamas, man. Really? It's weird to say, but it's just like he's like a he's like a Sherpa. You know, well, like you just talked him for like two hours and your your mind will be fucking blown. Just a wise guru. Also, like no judgment, like anything that you think. Yeah. There's not there's you know, some people like kind of like critical or a judging. Yeah. He will assess it through you being honest about that feeling. And then you feel incredibly comfortable sharing because you're not worried about being judged for this thing that you're feeling. Right. Like you might like disagree there. He may like, Oh, that's from this, but he won't be like, you're bad because of that. I think you say certain thing. He might be like, I can go for that. He's one of the people that's I'm sad his inspiration everywhere like, but what was the tripping I really wanted to know like, were it because if because madness was like, get on tick-tock. Yeah. People will write off whatever I've done and be like, he must have sat you down and gave me the keys to the city. I mean, I have to literally figure out what the hell was going on in that. Absolutely. Yeah. But for him, I saw it on a post recently. Yeah. He was like, yeah, it's shot out. It was because it's so. Yeah. Yeah. So I wanted to know what it was. I don't want to wear dresses, Wes, or is Russ our he might be the he might be the, I think Russ is the pure source. He could be the pure source of independence, someone got him to inspire him. You know, someone's got to inspire everybody's going to have an inspiration. Like, somebody inspired Steve Jobs. There's somebody that's the original thing. Adam. Probably. I'll say that. He was tripping, man. Like he didn't have the discipline, bro. Like, you know, I mean, like Adam was locked in. Adam was happy. That was living life. He even needed more. He was doable. He was doable. Yeah. We're Eve. Right. But I think I think I think create the creativity. Like, there is somebody that, you know what I mean? Like, even if you trace the Steve Jobs, he's like, you can be as motivated as you want or inspired by Steve Jobs. But if you can't code, you're just going to be wearing black V-necks. Like, what is the thing that inspires you? I think where did Russ get the, like, you were like, I'm going to put comedy online. And I'm going to do it at this frequency. And I'm going to, like, I'm going to be, I'm going to care. I'm going to post material. I'm going to post whatever I'm going to post. If it's funny, it's going online. I'm not going to hold back no more. Of course, I still hold a lot. I had material views. I would go. I was like a road dog. I would go to a new market every year. And I always wanted to do new. Yes. So like, I had an hour or more of stuff I wasn't doing anymore. Because next time I go to Columbus, I don't want to give them the same show. Right. Because there might be 40 people there. So it's good. So I was able to put some stuff out. And then the reason I started doing more the crowdwork stuff is because I could generate. I can take it out. This is not sure why you do it. There's material that, why everybody does it. But yeah. And then, like, volume is probably the game right now for better, for worse. I don't know. I think there's been a shift. Talk to me. Within the last 15 days. Ooh, I like this. I think that you can get more traction right now if you don't throw everything out the wall. If you throw the best moment. Yes. And wait, because if my thing is I want to put one to two videos out a day, the quality, like it just is what it is. Yeah. Now, if I hold and I go, okay, out of 13 shows in Brooklyn, give me the craziest two moments. And so then I just post once a week, like the quality of that clip will go, I'm happy with the level of quality. I'm hitting even at this quantity. But it's exponential. If I go, if I tell my whole team, we aren't pushing for one a day, what we'll get if I go, just give me the best video for a week. And you can scrape everything from the last five months. They're coming back with monstrosities. There's just been some moments, you know what I mean? That's that's what I think that's what I think has always been. I don't because I went to TikTok and they're like, just keep on. Well, I think what happened with me when we blew up on TikTok, I had all these people on TikTok hadn't seen years of standup that was already on Instagram and on YouTube. Right, right. So then it got to flood TikTok. So we got to flood with heat. But I'm doing Snapchat now. Exactly. You've never been on there. So it's like you get to flood with all your super A plus. Yes. And that stuff works cross-pop, because it's good. Yeah. It's great. We're going to. And all this shit even more. Man, I posted some clip randomly. There was just old recently. And it just went crazy. Same thing happened to me, but it was the Brooklyn improv just took a clip. They liked collab me on it. And it went nuts again. Great shit works. And great shit will cut through when there's a lot of slop out there. What do you think about this? Tell it to me. The blues clues. You know what I'm talking about? No, like I know the show. Okay. Yeah. So but what people don't realize about the show because we're adults and we just put it on the walk out the room is that they play the same episode all week long. Yeah. Every episode. And the kids really? The kids actually like my Friday. I think it was in Malcolm Gladwell book. I'm not. So I don't want to act like this. Anyway, so by Friday. Yeah. The kids are literally standing in front of the TV. Rich sighting the episode with. And we were washing like, what do you mean? Where's the iron? It's right, but the kids are like on Monday. They can't even see it Tuesday. They it's going to be on this side of the screen by Wednesday. They're up touching the screen pointing by Thursday. They're like, they're yelling about bother introducing the segment. You got kids? No. So you got to put it on. Not in them. You gave you what? Put it on. Not in them. New song coming soon. No, the what happens is like when you read a kid a book like they're like getting used to the book. It's books are like music to them or TV shows are like music. They want to hear it more. Right. With us, I think our brains are so developed like after you read it once you're like, I don't need to read this again. I've already digested it. I'm with you on this. But like, so blues clues figured that out with kids. They're like, you know, we don't kind of need a new one every cent. They actually prefer to milk that shit the whole week. It will drive parents crazy. But the kids will like it. But I think the familiarity. The familiarity. But so also I noticed if I'm in a movie, the scene that people laugh the hardest at is the one that was in the trailer. It's obnoxious. I'm like, we saw that for four months. Why are you? But that's why they put in the trailer, which I get. But it's not that they're not laughing because I haven't seen it before. They're laughing because like, oh, there's a familiarity with what do you mean, you people? I mean, they drop it thunder like we saw that for six months. Then what's the theater? Then the moment happened and you laughing like, oh, that's from the, oh, that's from the, it's a nostalgia. It becomes music. Facts. Yeah. But what if we shifted and did that with, if I, if I, this week's going to be this bit. And I'm going to drop that every day. Bro, this has happened like, and I mean, that's like the TikTok music play, which is like, hey, let me just drop the same part of the song over and over. Three times a day with maybe a different voice over, maybe a different thing. They change the visual stimulus, but the same part of the song. But there's a girl that blew a song up by playing it. She played it. She posted, I think she said 2200 times straight. This is what, yeah, this is what, and then like, the 17th harvest one was the one that went viral. It just caught the right wave. Yeah. Yeah. So there is a familiarity aspect. Now, according to Russ, he says he dropped 11 projects. None of them broke through and all of his albums were getting buried. But then he saw people that had singles that would catch on. Yeah. And so he was like, let me just drop singles every single week. And then I'm just going to drop single after single. And according to him, that was the thing that inspired the idea. I also think when you reach critical mass, there is an important play, which is like, now less can be more. So when you reach the point, like, you're already beyond it, I think that less, but high quality stuff or incredibly random thing. Like you said, there's something to happen with like an amputee and a crowd or whatever like that. It's just such in a random concoction of events that it's like really special. And I think that that does work. Because now you don't need to like, introduce yourself to people as much. Now it's a reminder and you're bringing new people in with heat. Right. But I'm, I'm, facts, but I'm looking at the five people I see posting the most content right now. And I think that there is schools of thought on it. Like I think, I think, I think maybe Ali posts wants every two weeks a stand-up bit. I think Moja's doing one a week. And then here I am throwing like five a day. Yeah. So maybe there's a version where she's like, well, what is the, what is the tip of the spear? Well, I think there's, it's a risk to me. I think because somebody can be like, let's see what all the hype is. I'm, yeah, crowdwork, whatever. Let me check out me, Jackson. And then they see one that's not a banger banger. I'm like, oh, it's not even, He and San, did you just heard it ticket?
help a ticket, but I'm confident that like one will get you to go like that and see the next one. >> Well, that's the other thing. It's like more shots on goal is more goals, right? And it's only going to take one of those to go crazy. And then you can also let the algorithm decide too, which is like, if it's not that good, not that maybe people see it, if it's crazy, a lot of people will see it. So there is that version of it. >> I can archive it too. Like. >> Yeah. >> It's not really. >> Yeah. >> It's like the way I went out there. >> But you know what I used to be able to do, which I think we all came in like once you get a feel for the audience river, you'd be like, we got a banner. >> Yeah. >> Oh, we got a banner. You know, like, wait till we post this one and this lady where she did whatever, right? >> Yeah. >> And you were posted and then they would do what you thought it would do. >> Yeah. >> And now there's a disconnect. Now you're like, I know I got a banner. You put that one on there and that might, it might just like barely and then you're like, I don't know, man, just do post the next video and then that one go crazy. >> Yeah. >> I'm in the comments of the one going crazy, but look at the last one. >> Yeah. >> No, you got it wrong. >> They didn't get this one right. >> And that's where it's like putting out the things that you're proud of or you think are really fun or you think are really interesting. Ideally can be the thing that offers a satisfaction. >> But I almost want to like keep the, this is what I'm thinking. I want to keep the consistency that we're at because that's what I pay people to do. But I think like putting like a gold ribbon on ones that I'm like, this one's a little nutty. I think might be something, maybe it's like a watermark or something. >> Yeah, maybe. You kind of hedge it. >> Or it's a specific day where you drop like Friday's, this is the clip of the week. >> Right. >> And then they have all week to whatever to get it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I saw you on your YouTube channel, you have like comedy just go for 24/7. When did you start that? >> Yeah. >> That's a new thing. >> You liked that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They just hit me up, the people that do it. And I was like, who do you already work with? And they were like, we work with Ali Sadiq and I was like, what does he play on there? Because he has so many specials. >> You just run the old stuff. >> You treat it like TV. >> Yeah, but what I didn't like, because Ali's long form, he's story time. >> Yeah, yeah. So I feel like, because I'm such a quick clip that's like chive TV, you know, you go sit in the bar and you see the guys like, all the little tricks and all that, like, when you go to the bar and you watch that, the bloopers, wheels are, that's chive TV. So I feel like if I have a ton of four minutes, it's like, I would be perfect in the lives. But can you go to my YouTuber, but it sits up right now, I was like, no, it's live. I mean, we basically took all my crowd work joints. It's been maybe three months. >> It's also a good monetization thing. It's like you getting ads throughout the entire time. >> Well, we'll see, but I mean, it's just always on. >> And then they're commenting, they're going, what I'm trying to get them to do is enable super chat over there so that, you know what I'm saying, which is why I thought the green comments were. I opened it one day and was like, you mean they all paid me a dollar. >> But they're in there talking, I don't, what does it tell me if people are in there right now? >> Look at this nice white audience shot. >> No live, 14 people watching right now. >> That's crazy. Wow. Imagine if two and a 14 people were sitting right there. >> Wow. >> This podcast is pet, but there's, there you go, but look at that. I don't know where we are, but that's my crowd makeup. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> It's fascinating. >> Okay. You want to rip through a couple more films. >> Yeah, let's do it. >> All right. This is a, I mean, the white people doing white shit, but I don't know if you saw this. This is a fucking wild clip. This is a woman in Austria, a paragliding. >> I think I did it for playing, that's it. >> She's flying around. >> Oh. >> Yeah, I just see that. >> Yeah. >> It's so crazy. Even though I said that, it's still crazy. >> No. >> Hold on. >> The emergency parachute. >> Yeah. >> The emergency parachute is not amazing. >> Is it ripped up? >> No. >> The first one? >> Yeah. >> No, this, the emergency, oh no, that's a clown. >> The first one is the white one. Oh my God. Bro, that's fucking terrifying. And then God afraid how to land with the emergency one. >> Okay. >> Oh. >> Your emergency shoot is not going to slow you down as fast. So you're, you're just landing. >> How old is she? >> Hard. >> She's not a young lady, huh? >> Yeah. >> They just sound married, I am. I'm enjoying those moans. >> [LAUGH] >> She's not making it annoying. >> Yeah. >> Hard of it, like. >> [LAUGH] >> That's horrible. >> So those grunts did something? >> Yeah. >> It's got to cross my legs. >> Nice to meet you. >> Yeah. >> You have to rub it right away. >> Like, she didn't fake that landing, you know? >> Yeah. >> That's for real. >> [LAUGH] >> She's a liberal. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> That's what it sounds like. >> All right, one more and then we get out of here, man. >> Yo, that's crazy. >> Crazy, right? >> Yeah. >> And she survived and then the people in the plane were apparently fine. They're like doing an investigation on how the fuck that happens. I mean. >> There's a lot of space up there to get in an accident. >> That's what I'm saying. I shouldn't tend to. >> This was a clip, though, that was a- >> It also shows you how fast planes are going. >> Sure. >> Bro, this guy cracks me up, man. What's the name of this? There's a name. Derrick is a Derrick something? >> Let me find it. >> Oh, what's the name? >> David. >> David, David. >> David, underscore comedy. So- >> And he got mature. He got a name. >> Pause. Pause. So what he does is he could do every accent pretty much. And he can also like fake speak the language, but he's not saying anything. >> Okay. >> And he walks up to people and then he starts fake speaking their language. >> Right. >> And then pass the video and he does it with every walk up to Chinese people. He'd fake speak Chinese. >> I don't know about him. Hit him? >> Yeah. >> He's trying to figure it out. They see a white guy speaking Chinese, so they're like- >> I hear enough to be like- >> You see it? >> You see it? >> Run it from the beginning. >> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] >> Okay, we got a couple of other random feelings and effects. This is, I mean, this, F-A sent this one in because he wanted you to see it. >> Okay. >> It's a woman who's at an event and sells feed juice. So she has a sign that says feed juice for sales. She dunks her feet in here and then people drink up the feed juice. >> Now this gives off a bad name, bro. This is- >> Wait, what do you mean us? >> Just the people who enjoy feet. >> Are you a foot guy? He's one of those. >> I thought I was and saw that. >> Yeah, this gives perspective. >> I mean, when you say your feet guy, what's that mean? >> I don't like to do anything to him, but I just think they got to look nice. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Like I don't want to be a girl, fuck the feet. >> Like back in the day. >> Yeah, but this is, this is a lot. >> No, this is weird, this is- >> But let's just say you saw like a very attractive woman that you had bad feet. You did not smash it. >> No, boomerang. >> [LAUGH] >> Boomerang out. >> Yeah. >> He's actually moving. >> He's moving. >> Any Murphy. >> No, the answer is- >> The answer is she's crazy bad. And then he pulls back the covers and her feet are just like- >> Can't do it. >> And you won't do it. >> Yeah, no, that wasn't her feet. That was Ivo LaShans. >> No. >> I'm the one with the woman. >> That was a beautiful woman. >> Yeah, and then he was literally like, let me see the cover. And when they pull back, she had like your feet. And so then he sneaks out of the bed and out of the room. But that's what you would do. >> Yeah, I want attractive. >> Yeah. >> No, I feel good. >> I knew one of them brothers was like, I'm smashing the feet. >> What if I'm touching the feet? >> I'm touching the feet. >> What if I do want to smash the feet? >> No, I'm not touching the feet. Like if the body's right. You know everything else is right. >> For wifey or just like for one night? >> No, obviously, who cares? >> No, you one night. >> They had that feet. >> You wouldn't even. >> When I was in Argentina, I was looking for a girl who's missing a finger. >> [LAUGH] >> If you're there for just like an auto. >> That's what I was talking about. >> No, but like if it's wifey, obviously, you don't have to look at those things all the time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay, we want to say this. >> It's going to brought up an interest in hypothetical. Would you rather be a 5-2 white dude or a 6-5 black dude? >> Ooh. >> 5-2 is pretty short. >> Yeah, a 6-5 black dude. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Would you rather be Nate? >> Never thought of that. >> [LAUGH] >> I don't know the life of a 5-2 white guy. >> Yeah. >> Would it just rejection everywhere? >> Yeah. >> But you might not get harassed by police as much, you know what I mean? >> You won't. >> Yeah, you might. >> My God, danger. You are the police. >> [LAUGH] >> I got to be a cop. >> I kind of like in this journey on loan here in what I got. But it is interesting. >> So it is interesting. >> His height is a more some racism. >> No. >> Yeah. >> Cuz no. >> But you'd rather be a 6-5 black dude. >> I can't tell how tall he is in his car. >> [LAUGH] >> Yeah. >> I can't tell. He can wear heels. >> Yeah, that's true. >> He can wear heels as a guy, man. >> No, I got those heel boots. >> Yeah. >> Who would ever do that? >> Yeah. >> You know, shots. >> Yeah, you wear some left now. >> Give you a little extra. You're not a rowing. >> 5-2 is crazy. >> 5-2 is crazy. >> There is a number where you do it. >> 5-2 is crazy. >> All right, would you like to be a 5-2 black guy? >> That you can't be Duval or Kevin Hart. >> 5-2, hold a 5-2 black guy or 5-2 white guy? >> Nope. >> Just a 5-2 black guy. >> I'm just gonna or. >> Just a third one. >> The third one is. >> So I'm gonna.
So I could be a six five black eye, a five two white guy, or a five two black eye. Or a seven foot Asian. That's fire. That's fire. A seven foot Asian is kind of lit, to be honest with you. Seven foot Asian, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Even the smallest they got it, everybody knows what it is. But it's seven foot, it's Asian, for Asian dick, it's small for Asian dick. Yeah, another 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100. Downside, why wouldn't we all want to be the gigantic Asian guy with a pretty big dick, but it's not big for seven feet, but it's pretty big. No, Michael. This is. This is. Michael beans on the microphone. Sarah, fuck it. Yeah. You're a gigantic Asian. Yeah. Pinky toe. Nah. I love her. I love her. I love her. Yeah. That's a tough one for me. Seems like I just got more foot. Yeah. I can't do micro penis, even if you're seven foot Asian, because what's the point? But you go to the league. If you're seven foot Asian and you sell your jersey all over China. Yeah, but you got a micro penis, nah, that's crazy. Nah, what would you do? You got to be five two black dude, right? Yeah. For the massive hog. That's not bad. Absolutely. Keep saying about Kevin Hart. What's up? What's up? Yeah, that's what I. Well, for the whole week of the roast, I kept seeing all these videos by. I, um, what's the white guy that paints his nails? That was on the road. Big J. Overson. Big J. Overson, kept on dropping videos about how big Kevin's dick is. Really? Yeah. I just, they're all weak. I was like, hey, yo, come on. Come on, come on, fair. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. I didn't see any of those videos. So, okay, to really try to focus in our energy. Okay, okay. Go. This is what people are talking about outside of the next stadium. With your girl for the next to win it off. I would let J. Overson sit in my girl, my mother, my sister. I'd let him sleep with anyone he asked for it. Would you let J. Overson sit with their girl for the next to win it off? For the next to win it off? Yes. Would you let J. I'd let him sit with his girl. I would let him sit with his girl for the next to win it off. So, this is the question. Nah. Nah. For the next to win it off, bro. Nah. Nah. I'm going 42 years without it, man. I used to have champion champion. Yeah. I got to you. So, I'm unfortunately comfortable with it. Sleep with your girl. It's crazy. There was one where a dude says that he would take strokes. He would take a black stroke. He would take a black dude, by the way. This is probably not what he's from Jersey. Let me go. Let me go. Let me go. Let's do anything. There's no way. There's no way. I think Jersey is more progressive than New York. There's just no way. New Yorkers say that. I think New Yorkers get here. A black New Yorker would not say that. So, he would not claim enough. I think New Yorkers get it. But a black New Yorker did say it. He did. You just put it on Jersey. But no, I think Jersey is like a few years back. I don't know if they're playing with the gay fund yet. Think? Nah. New York. New York is there. White boy fund is cross since a black culture in New York. What do you feel about white boy fund? You're not all a Dicksha. Do you got to get used to it? Who taught you about it? I'm from Washington. He said the white. Oh yeah. The white. The white. Our football team is not checking. Really? Yeah. They're like, run down to the goalposts and come back. I'm on the way back. If somebody's bushy, the coach would see it. Like stop. Stop. Stop. You're not checking. Did you grow up with it and it was normal or did you get introduced to it at a certain point in time and then you had to acclimate? It was just normal. From what I remember, middle school, high school, people would just be playing too much. Did you ever play with other black dudes that didn't know anything about it and they're like, what is going on? No. As a matter of fact, I remember very distinctively. The big eye was Jay, a comedian from Boston that's in Vegas now. He still plays like that to this day and he'll get you like, oh my god, I'm just fucking my left nut only as ridiculous. But he came to something where it was like, it was like a pretty urban function and he was in there on that same energy and I was like, man, seriously, like this is not, we're not doing that today. Go on Truce, no, not Jay. Truce, that's the call on Truce, he's like, this is a deaf jam after party. Please, I got in a talk and he's like, this is the best stop. I know he's shiny, right? I'm like, Jay, I swear to god, if you give me my nuts and this guy, damn party, we can't be friends anymore. He's a kid, no, no, it's cool, it's cool. Jay, they don't care. No, they don't. Okay, before we go, I want you to let us know about the thing that you were recreating. Oh, comedy jam? Yeah, so I did comedy jam because I felt like it was needed. It's been a very, very long time since we've had a structured show with micro sets. And so I brought 54, 56, I'm not sure, something like that, like 54 comics, flew them out to the club, spent about $160,000 and you did it all at your club? I did. Wow. Yeah, so it's intimate and it's there and nobody had a bad set. And it sounds great. It looks great. It's the same team that I did my Netflix special with. So there's a lot of people that should see some, you know, a needle push, even this is just to give them some phenomenal content. Where are you putting it out? What's the major? You're your channel? Yeah, my team is actively trying to sell it right now, but I was like, no matter what you do, this is going to be on my YouTube. Yeah. So I don't know how, I don't know what that handshake looks like, but it's going to have to, like, maybe it drops simultaneously or the TV one says, go look at this or something. But it's going on my YouTube, started with that intention. So it's called the super funny comedy jam and it's starring 54 of the funniest comedians in the country. Who are some names? Smoky Suarez. Smoky. Rob Stapleton. Rob. Tony Roberts. Yeah. I mean, names I think people would, I mean, Ryan Davis did it. Ryan's great, man. Rage that just did it was in the finals on the funny A.S. Black Ron, Justin Eish, Clayton Thomas, Martin Amine, Martin Amini. This really funny way, dude, I've seen when I did a showcase in DC named Matt something. He was really good. I have to look it up and maybe I'll shoot a two-seeking, like, look at my name worth. But, no, it was just great. We did four comics, three or four comics per episode. How many shows did you do? A film, everything. Wow. I wanted to do 10 and then I was like, I'll do an 11th because I just couldn't keep saying no to certain people. Right. And so then I was like, well, the 11th one will be my pilot if I'm going to take it out or whatever. And then my team was like, no, just go out with 11 of them. Yeah, why not? It was better. We'll see. And we're going to see if there's a network that wants it or whatever, but everyone right now keeps on saying, like, oh, no, we don't want that format for comedy. Right. Well, it's in the top five-- there's the top five on Netflix right now. It seems to be doing all right. Yeah. You don't want short-form comedy? Yeah. Wow. But I just remember when we came up, you go watch Comic View, Premium, Blaine. You go watch Dev Jam. You go, there was always something where you can see. And then just for the last 25 years, there hasn't been anything really. Nothing that stuck. Like Dev Jam had a chance, but then Russell got to me too, so then they swept it under the rug. And so that's the-- that's the-- that's the-- it's that gets scratched with this. And so I'm hoping that it moves and needs to force some people. At least it puts them in a conversation to be doing clubs, to make somebody, to possibly, you know-- There's a lot of other tables. Yeah, that's it. And so Super Funny Comedy Jam. And if anybody's interested in the comedy club, it's Nate Jackson, Super Funny Comedy Club, and Tacoma, Washington, biggest black-owned comedy club in the country. Shout out to you. Yeah, time to David, since coming here soon. Oh, legend. Yeah, we have a-- we have a-- can you click view all at the bottom? Yeah, so let's see who we got coming to. People can be proud of us. Hey, Fion. I did. Tricks from Funny A.F. Tiffany Haddish, Tim Trollb-Shire, Funny Marko. Oh, great, dude. I just ripped Michael's Bill Belly. Bill Belly, me. And then-- What? So we do the opposite. So, go to hell. Bam. Rosebud Baker. So you go to hell. Let's go. Well, I'm some month. We have one. [LAUGHTER] And that will pay the bill. Let's play all the black stuff. You know, I want-- and if we honest with you, I want the most diverse line up possible. And when I say diversity, I don't mean, uh, hell of black people. I mean, I want-- everyone we can sell on the screen, that should be-- I don't-- we don't need this many. It looks like a N. Delaney P meeting. Like, it's hell of black people. But the agents assume because it's black owned, those are the clients that they read off to me. And then people just don't take a series because it's not a big chain clip. Our text message from six years ago has an offer for me to him. Great offer. Really? Great offer. Yeah. Great offer. Oh, you share as strong as you can come from Jersey. I don't want to put it. I don't want to put it
out there because he might have less strong offers. - You can say, I'm full transparency. I talk money. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You're gonna, it would sell out like that. Come work on some shit. - Yeah. - It's nothing. - You'd be good to hang out with good people. - I definitely want to see some snow if you want. - Hell yeah. - Emson. - But yeah, and those kind of offers are out for particular people that I'm a fan of or inspired by. And we've had a few, but then other, you know. - Yeah. - So I don't know what it takes to crack through the noise of all the different places people can perform and all that stuff, but we do well. So, but I just want to see more people that I'm already like, like I think people would get it. Like Dave was at the Netflix brunch and he was like, I'm gonna come and dare you to clap, man. - Oh, that'd be fun. - I think, yeah, but I also think like it makes people go, oh. - There's a thing. - Exactly. - There's a thing. So, it's exciting stuff. - I appreciate you having me here. - Nate Jackson, man. - Thank you buddy. Go check out Nate. - Thank you so much, bro. - Appreciate it, man. - Thank you, bro.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The New York Knicks advanced to the NBA Finals after 27 years, sparking widespread celebration and a surge of positivity in New York City.
Nate Jackson, a comedian from the West Coast, traveled to New York to celebrate, highlighting the city’s emotional energy and cultural unity.
New Yorkers exhibited uncharacteristic calm and joy, with chaotic, festive behavior like crowdsurfing and outdoor parties, reflecting a rare sense of collective euphoria.
The event revealed deep cultural awareness, including commentary on racial representation, comedy circuits (e.g., black, Latino, white), and historical exclusion in entertainment.
There’s a growing recognition of cultural diversity in comedy and media, with audiences seeking authentic representation beyond stereotypes.
The return of the Seattle Sonics to Oklahoma City and the expansion of the NBA to Vegas are discussed, with skepticism about the latter’s cultural impact.
Comedic content, especially roasts, is analyzed for its social impact, including backlash over offensive jokes and the need for accountability.
The role of social media and algorithms in shaping audience reach and diversity is emphasized, showing how visibility is not guaranteed by race or origin.
The conversation underscores how communities build identity through shared experiences, especially in diverse urban environments like New York.
Summary:
The New York Knicks' historic playoff victory after 27 years ignited a wave of joy and unity across the city, transforming the streets into a vibrant, chaotic celebration. Comedian Nate Jackson’s presence underscored the emotional resonance of the moment, illustrating how a shared win can unite diverse communities. New Yorkers, typically known for their intensity and volatility, displayed an unusually relaxed and positive energy, with crowdsurfing and spontaneous festivities reflecting a deep communal spirit.
The conversation expands beyond the sports moment to explore deeper cultural dynamics, including historical exclusion in comedy and media, with references to segregated circuits like the "Black Circuit" and the evolution of representation. The discussion highlights how racial and cultural identities are increasingly visible in entertainment, as seen in comedy clubs and roasts. Observations about the NBA expansion to Vegas and the return of the Sonics reveal skepticism about cultural sustainability in new markets.
Central to the narrative is the role of social media in shaping audience reach—algorithms often reinforce typecasting, limiting exposure unless actively challenged. Ultimately, the piece celebrates the resilience of community, the power of representation, and the evolving landscape of inclusivity in American culture, where diversity is no longer optional but essential to shared experiences.
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The New York Knicks advanced to the NBA finals after a 27-year absence, sparking widespread celebration and excitement in the city.
Nate Jackson, a comedian from the West Coast, wanted to experience the energy of a New York win and made the trip to celebrate, showing his deep personal connection to the city's joy and spirit.
New Yorkers reacted with loud, positive, and chaotic energy, including crowd surfing and uncontrolled celebrations, showing a unique sense of unity and passion unlike typical reactions.
It reflects the belief that New York's success in sports, like the Knicks' win, is a symbol of broader American pride and unity, with the city seen as a national representative of strength and spirit.
Yes, the Seattle Sonics are returning to the NBA with the team being relocated to Oklahoma City, but they have retained their original name, which fans are celebrating.
Comedy has grown more inclusive, with audiences from different backgrounds now attending shows and creating cultural nights, such as black nights, Latino nights, and other themed events that reflect community-specific traditions.
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