‘Kindergarten Cop’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt
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The podcast explores Arnold Schwarzenegger’s 1990 movie *Kindergarten Cop* as a landmark film of the early 1990s, reflecting the era’s bold, unfiltered approach to storytelling. Despite its controversial content—such as graphic violence, child abuse themes, and explicit scenes involving sexual misconduct—it is celebrated for its absurdity, humor, and cultural significance. The film stands out for Arnold’s extensive dialogue and natural performances, particularly in moments where he interacts with young children, creating a mix of comedy, vulnerability, and absurdity. The show emphasizes how the movie’s outrageous elements, like a school fire plot and a pet ferret, were accepted at the time but now appear out of touch with modern standards. It also highlights the film’s enduring appeal among die-hard Arnold fans, noting that lines like “It’s not a tumor” have become iconic cultural references. The discussion contrasts the film’s 1990s grit with today’s more cautious, sanitized cinema, framing it as a darkly humorous relic of a bygone era. The podcast also touches on the film’s place in Arnold’s career, calling it a pivotal moment of creative freedom and a testament to his ability to blend physical comedy with action. While acknowledging the problematic content, the hosts argue that the film’s chaotic energy and nostalgic charm make it a must-watch for fans of classic cinema. The review ultimately positions *Kindergarten Cop* as both a bizarre time capsule and a bold, if flawed, achievement in 1990s pop culture.
The rewatchables is brought to by the Ringer podcast network. You can find us on Netflix, as well as on Spotify and on a whole bunch of different places. You can find Kyle Brandt every once in a while on the Ringer podcast network. He's now belongs to NFL, SPN ESPFL, ESPNFL network, he has PNFL network hopped over there. He's popping up all over the place still on good morning football. He's been coming on this podcast five years, six years, six years, since we did Teen Wolf. I think it was in the COVID year. That was my first one. Honestly, a little light on Arnold movies for us. And we were texting Bill and we're like, we kind of miss Arnold, kind of miss hanging with Arnold. I don't think we've done it since the runny man. That was a long time ago. Long time ago, we're back. I'll be back. Arnold Schwarzenegger, kindergarten cop is next. Kindergarten cop, 1990, I was in college, where were you in 1990? Fifth grade saw it in the theater. Oh, you're kind of the audience for kindergarten cop. Big time. Yeah, big time. Loved it, fired up by it, thought it was the kids were hilarious, thought the action was awesome. This is an important movie for me. Big time. You, you like it? Do you see it in the theater in college? Saw it on a date. I think it's one of those rare adults can go to the movie, college kids can go to the movie, parents can take their kids or kids can just sneak in and go. And I think 1990, this movie now, I don't know what it is in 2026, I just think it's a horrible version of itself. Back then, you could end a kids movie with an active shooter who set a fire and is now trying to kidnap a kid. And we're fine. Nobody judges it. We just go. We're scared for the kid. We figured Arnold's going to save the day. This movie feels very distinct 1990. Let's not overthink this. Let's just give Arnold a job being a kindergarten teacher and let's go. So much of the fun and watching it now is just seeing holy shit. How is this in the movie? It's there's, there's 12 of those things. And it's like you're enjoying Arnold and wherever the kids and all that, but then you're also like, what is with all this child abuse and then heavy handed divorce lectures? And then like some weird thing with sexual identity, like everything is in this movie. And it always cracks me up that like if you brought your kids to this movie, oh great. Arnold's going to the kid stuff. I can't wait. Bring the kids. Kindergarten. It's going to be awesome. And you sit down like your eight year old or maybe your actual kindergartener. Like in the first three minutes of the movie, there is an execution style murder. And then a woman is handcuffed to a dead body. And moments after that, a man slaps a woman across the face and you're like, what is this? We should have gone to home alone again. It's nuts. And there's 50 things like that in this movie. It's hilarious. It's like, is this an NC 17? No, no, it's probably was PG back then. I, this movie exists in this weird part of time for culture where like my generation we grew up and we had those, you know, we had the kids shows, but we also had like the ABC after school specials. Yeah. And we had those warning TV movies that like CBS would do would be like, sure, it would be like a diary of a hitchhiker and it would be like some hitchhiker gets brutally murdered in the beginning in the hitchhiker. And basically the lesson was, don't be a hitchhiker, don't trust your uncle to take pictures of you. It was a lot of lessons. And then as we headed into the late 80s, early 90s, we flipped and there's this hybrid era because home alone's in this too. Some of those sports movies that like the Little Big League, sandlot, these movies where it's like their kids movies, but they're crossing lines in a way that I'm not sure we would do now. And then by the time we get to the 2000s, all of a sudden we're like, hey, these should just be kids movies and we're really careful and they do the bad news bears remake and they have to like check every box of it and they take basically all the sauce out of it. And just now this movie has John Cena in it or The Rock and it's really safe and it's like a really, really easy PG and every kid is carefully cast. None of the kids make sense together and I just think that's how we do it. But the early 90s, they didn't give a fuck. They just didn't care and I'm kind of here for it. I totally here for it. I assure you if you're listening and watching, you've not seen this movie in a long time, it's going to make your head spin when you watch it. And I think this movie is a flex. You already mentioned at once of the PG 13 rating that you can push that shit really far and still not get under the R like just brutal shootings, drug deaths, like kids looking up girl skirts. I was like, man, I was, my drink out when I saw that and they put that in the trailer for this movie. I went back and watched it in 1990 was to sensitize. I was fifth grade. I'm 10 years old watching this movie. There was no part of my parents and the lobby who were like, well, that was a mistake. They were busting balls with me. They thought it was awesome, totally different sensibility. The kid is getting the child abuse kid is getting bullied by the class. And then it turns out he's being abused, never really resolved, but no, no idea how it worked out for him. This kid has had one of the most traumatic kindergartens you could possibly have ending with a fire in a school shooting and it's like, did he, did he come out of this? Okay, we'll never know. He's just kind of there. Did he make any friends? Probably not. This movie hinges around Arnold. I wrote down to me like, it's like Wembee, it's like a one-on-one. You go and you're like, I've never seen this before or you go see Otani and he pitches eight innings and hits a three run homer and you're like, I've just never seen this before. I don't even know how to explain Arnold all these years later because we've done a couple of these movies. It takes off for him with Terminator and 84 and he's bouncing around the action stratosphere there for a little bit. But in the late 80s, when he mixes, like, I can be in a comedy, I can be in twins. No, now I can be in total recall. Watch this. I'm going to be in kindergarten cop. I'm going to be in Terminator 2 again. He was basically these two people, everything he says in this movie is hilarious and maybe 80% of the time, I don't think it's intentional, but I think he knows we think it's funny and doesn't take it personally and is playing along with the gag, but it's also not intentional on his part. I don't even know. The line that he's zags, I don't even know how he does it. I totally get what you're saying, you and I as people who love Arnold spend most of his movies, a lot of them openly laughing at him, but we still love it and dude, it's different though, then we do the same thing for Segal. Yeah. And Segal, we're like, is like a clown. Arnold is, I totally respect him. I don't look at him like Segal at all, not to mention the body builder, the self-made thing, the immigrant, all that. That stuff is very cool. But I watch most of his movies and I think he's Arnold's kind of the joke, but I just love him so much. I just get over it. And he's kind of okay being the joke because I'll tell me the jokes on everybody else because he's making like 15 to 20 million a year, making movies at this point, he's hugely famous. I saw this in the theater and during the, it's not a tumor, it's not a tumor at all. There it is. It's huge laughter in the theater and I don't even know, like they, I, so I have an right man directs us. He, we'll talk about the legendary run he had. He had to know what he had here. The same way like Bill Parcell's new he had with Lawrence Taylor, just like this guy is a one-of-one freak. How do I just put him in situations where he's just attacking the quarterback with one-on-one blocking? I've been right man. This whole movie is like, how can I just have, first of all, how can I have Arnold just saying lines? Arnold says more lines in this movie than I think in any other movies. He's ever done. How do I have variation in the words? So instead of tumor, I know it's going to be funnier when he says tumor. I think Arnold knows it's funny, but maybe deep down he thinks we're just laughing at the delivery and not just how, how stupid he sounds. I don't know how they did it. And I think you can become self-aware with this stuff and eventually he became self-aware. But I think in 1990, he wasn't 100% self-aware yet. So it's a little bit of a heat check because right man and swords and egg are, they do twins and it works. And he doesn't have a giant machine gun and stuff like holy shit, maybe we can do this. Now he's going to get a deeper heat check with junior and he's going to miss. But this one hits again. And I think you're on to something like, I was watching this movie and I was finding myself, who is this for really? Because if you're there for the Arnold ass kicking, the kid stuff might be annoying. If you're there for the kid stuff, the Arnold ass kicking might be too much. My answer is, it's just for die hard Arnold heads, like that you show up no matter what he does. Because if you don't love Arnold's Swarcing, I mean, love, this movie could be too much for you. I also think, I agree. I think it's the most dialogue he's ever had. Dude, he's carrying five different genres. We have a buddy cop movie, a romantic movie, action, kids. And he's really, really doing well. I also think it's like, I think it's his most quotable movie that he has ever done, ever. Like every single thing he says is a GIF, it's a soundboard button. It's just like, I'm going to ask you some questions. I want them answered immediately. It's all of those things. I'm a cop you idiot. It's so fun to say and listen to. And it's because he's just shouting out pearls every single scene and we've never seen him do that before. Well, we also had total recall six months earlier. Yeah. So we are now on.
like an Arnold addiction cycle where every six months we need to go to a movie theater and just see him be Arnold. And he's he's carrying this basically from 1987 basically through True Lies. This is a pretty great eight year run. So I found the premiere magazine where they wrote basically a page about this movie. There are some gems in there. Oh, great. I love this. He said Arnold said this was a high concept. He's been touting for a long time. This is a quote for 10 years. I've been telling writers, producers, directors, and studio executives that I would love to do a film where a kid or children are a very important part. Something like John Boyd did in this boxing movie, The Champ. You change always when you're all around children. See, if Arnold in these meetings, one of the biggest stars in the world and they're like, what do you want to do next? He's like, I'd like to do something with children. Can it be in a kid's movie? Like, I can't now we're still doing cocaine in the eight eighties that I'm sure people like that. Yeah, that's great. I love it. We'll put you in a first grade classroom. But one of the kids talk about penis. Yeah. So they just let him go to at least shouldn't it worked. Not only this movie make a ton of movie, but I people love this movie. Like I told a bunch of people and they don't really like what's next rewatchables. Oh, it's going to be kindergarten crop. People are like, I love that movie. They love that movie and everybody loves saying it's not a tumor. If you mention kindergarten cop is someone they will and must say tumor. Like Arnold took possession of the word tumor, which is a horrible, horrible word. When you hear that word, you think of Arnold. I used to think of him when I would watch a money tumor and I would say it's not a tumor. Right. He took over that word. Question for you. I have it. It's not a tumor. I think it's his second most famous line in his entire career. I got. I'll be back. Let's be first. And I think it's not a tumor is more famous than get to the chopper, which is really well known from Predator. I think it's all the way up there. This throwaway line he has with this kid. But it's fun to say and everybody will say it if you mentioned this movie. I think you're right. I think it took a second life when a money tumor actually showed up on the Giants, which was what mid 90s. And I'm 99% sure. Berman who was doing the nicknames and the nicknames were funny back then. We didn't have the internet. We didn't know any better. Like they if you go back, some of them are pretty forced. Yeah. Jeff Brown paper bag well. You're sleeping with the enemy. I got to say I really enjoyed the way back when but when he was doing a money, it's not a tumor. It was the best one of all the ones because so so it's not a tumor lived on through like tumors entire career basically. But from my understanding is is that Boomer to this day will have a nickname for everyone he encounters at ESPN. Did you ever get a nickname from Boomer? No, we he didn't like me for a while. And then now we know I think I don't know what happened. But maybe I took it made a joke about him in a column or something. Yeah. But we hashed it out at the 2013 Espees had a great hang with was the year. I think John Ham hosted that after parted a hotel and and the Boomer and I really put in the time like 15 20 minutes and I just like kissed his ass and it was genuine. I was like look man. Did you initiate or did I initiate it and things were things were going awesome for me at the time of the ESPN. I went up to him. I'm like look man, things were going great for me. I feel so indebted to you. You built this place like people like me are just trying to keep it going but you're the guy. And I really felt that way and he loved it. I did too. Yeah. But I think as people get older over the years, sometimes you could take shit. Berman was outsized incredibly important. So anyway, it's not a dreamer for him was one of the sleeping with B&M he was still the best one though. Excellent one. Probably my favorite author. Yeah, I think that was the best one. Anyway, Arnold could be in any movie. So they're doing this movie basically variations of it for the last I'd say 15 years and it would have the rock or John Cena. Vin Diesel Jason Statham. Vin Diesel. It's just a really hard one to pull off and I gotta be honest. I think he's the only one that did it. He's the only one that nailed it and I have to give it I have to give credit like a lot of times those movies lose you because the kids are annoying. The kids are cute in this. Let's let's call it what it is. They really really funny kids. And in 1990, we had these kids and we had Kevin McAllister who were ruling the world and it was really, really big back then. Arnold's Interact with him seems authentic. I like it and I like the way they use the kids and it's funny. I laughed at the I still laugh with the kids. The dumps come the dumb kids are like, my dad can't wear hats and I'm sitting there now in my 40s just laughing and enjoying it. This also is a timeless movie. You know, it's like running on Netflix right now. It's 36 years old and it's a movie that now you'd have, I don't know how many generations of kids in the age of like, hey, we should watch this. This would be a good one. There's not a lot of these that you could watch. I mean, I always showed these to my kids way too early. So my kids are probably like, you know, five or six when they watch us. Yeah. But it was perfect because it was it's a little dangerous. It's funny. Arnold's funny. Some of the kids stuff is funny. It's just it works. Can we go back to 1990 though? Please, let's go. So this this movie ends, let's see, 10th in 1990. Some of the bangers from that year. Home Alone is number one. Ghost dancing with wolves. Pretty women. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is fifth. Fucking I love it. Hunt for Red October. Heard that's a good movie. Total recall, die hard to Dick Tracy, kindergarten cop, back to the future three presumed innocent days of thunder are a top 13. And what do all those movies have in common? Fucking huge stars to almost across the board. If Harrison Ford, Costner, Patrick Swayze, Demi Moore, Culkin becomes a huge star, Schwarzenegger's in two, Bruce Willis, Warren Beatty, Michael J. Fox, Cruz, like, we just we knew what we're doing in 1990, Kyle. A bonkers year, the craziest thing about that year is the home alone piece where home alone was a number one movie in America for 12 weeks, 12 straight weeks. Kindergarten cop drops in week eight. Yeah. And Arnold coming off total recall. They don't even make the McAllister's blink. They rattle off another month. And here's the best part. The movie that finally took the number one spot from home alone. We've already mentioned it. A little movie you know called Sleeping with the enemy took the number one spot. Yeah. Kevin McAllister. How good is that? Julia in danger. So Arnold goes predator running man in 87 red heat and 88 turns down die hard which seems like it's a mistake in retrospect. Twins 1990 recall and Kindergarten cop 91 terminator two. And 90 is the year he takes the belt from sliced alone for real. It's he co-owns it from 87 on they're basically like co champs. Yep. Like when boxing where there's like the WBC champ the WBA champs. Yep. They're both champs by 90 he has the belt slides unraveled. He's doing stop by model shoe and Oscar. Yeah. Oscar. He's doing rocky five like he it just feels like it's over until challenger which we've not challenger cliffhanger and the last said challenger cliffhanger which we've already done. That was his attempt to just climb literally no pun intended back in the conversation because Arnold is just killing everybody. But he was the biggest star we had. And I don't know if there's been another run like this. No and I listen to step on apex like I think this is Arnold apex. Me too. You did the Wembee comparison. To me this is the MJ 87 88 season where he won MVP and defensive player of the year. Yeah. To give us the Paul Verhoeven super crazy violent sci-fi total recall which was awesome. And then this silly nonsense up in the Pacific Northwest with these kids in the same year is so different. And by the way the best movie he ever makes is coming next in T2. I think this is the height of Arnold everything. By the way he's also deeply entrenched in the George HW Bush White House at this point like he has an official position like he's in government. All that is coming. He's running the world. I think he's with he's with Maria Shriver at this point too. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's all happening. Um I wrote that I had a little less. This is tangent. Okay. It's so we didn't know how good we had it celebrity list. Okay. I almost wish I could. I enjoyed it more in the moment. I'm melancholy already. What do you got? He just figured like Arnold. There'll be more of these Arnold will be back in some other form. And it's just not the closest we really got to was I think Vin Diesel and the Fast and Furious movies. And it's just not you can't compare it. But I was thinking just celebrities. I wish I had appreciated more in the moment. Arnold is one Michael Jordan the whole run. Although I do think when he went away to play baseball we did appreciate it and really did think about it. Tiger is a great one because when it abruptly ended it was like Oh man. That sucked. That was a really good 12 year run. 80s 80 Murphy. Mike and the mad dog was like this for me. Always knowing that they were on in New York anytime you're there suddenly they were gone. Dan and Keith on sports center. Late 90s WWE the attitude air just felt like it was going to go on forever. Didn't Randy Moss part of me felt like he would just go into this 45 just being able to run the straight down the down the sideline. Serena Williams just feeling like she She was the mountain everyone had to climb in woman's tennis.
And then I got to say there was a Michael Jackson run there in the 80s, where it was like, wow, holy macro. I mean, there was a lot of time, most talented person ever lived, definitely. Anyone else you would put on? Like for you, just like, I wish I had appreciated a little more and retrospect. Yeah, my mind goes to CR months. I was there and it was a beautiful month, but I wish I could have dug in further. It was beautiful though. I really enjoyed it. So, CR month Arnold Tiger. Yeah, I got you. I think you guys came up a little short and should have had the balls that do the secario pod in Juarez live, but maybe maybe the recent Mario. You were part of CR month, though. It's like, you get it on your Wikipedia. It was spectacular. I definitely get it. Mike Anagita. They cast this movie. Penelope Miller. That's the love interest. Small run for her here in the 90s. I think Carlitos and a couple others. Pamela Reed as the buddy cop. Sure. Really nice performance by her in this. I thought, I thought she's excellent. She's a very good actress. Yeah. Linda Hunt, who was I think started out near living dangerously. She's the principal. She's the little lady who has a couple good scenes. Richard Tyson as the bad guy. Let's go. When you want to do this now or later, you want to do some Chris talk because I'm here for Chris. Let's go. What's going on here? Is this just like this is the NFL salary cap where we had to spend a lot of money on my homes and we're just going to keep our fingers crossed with the left tackle and hope he doesn't get annihilated at the playoffs. You might say the same for the Patriots too. I don't know. You're really good. But what happened here? What happened is a lot of clothing, a ponytail and a brood. And he somehow got this part. And by the way, I'm not here to shit on Chris. I love Chris. I think he's really funny. I think he's a good villain. I don't think he's going to win an Oscar. But he almost reminds me of Jimmy from Roadhouse. He's just kind of this brooding guy who has a physicality to him. I like Chris. I think Chris is fantastic. That's the thing. He's a character from a Roadhouse, Van Dam kind of a movie. This is actually kind of an elevated movie with good actors. Yeah. And I don't know how they figured out that bad. I don't know what's going on with him in general. The relationship with the mother is just bizarre. Spectating. I don't really know what's going on there. The other one, Catholic minorities in this too is like the milk mom. What is that who's attracted? Why? Why? Why is she in that for that wrong actress? Wrong vibe. It just flips the movie into this crazy direction. It doesn't pay off. I don't know what they're doing with that either. But in her scene is unfathomable. She comes in and it's like, I'm really worried that my son is playing with dolls. And Arnold goes, no, he's using them to look up girls skirts. And she goes, oh, that's a relief. And I'm like, do it the fuck. I thought it might have been something else. Thank God is only looking at kindergartners skirts. It's so weird. Future sex offender. Yeah. She read that. She's like, yeah, I was in raging bull no problem. But like, I like this. I'll sign up for this role. I'd like to be in this crazy. Well, I have been rightman directs from 79 and 93. He rips off meatballs, stripes, ghost busters, legal legals, twins, ghost busters to kindergarten cop and Dave, the best movie of all time. I realized that about two months ago. Dave's the best movie of all time. I love Dave. I think it might be the best movie of all time. Just comic touch. His movie's always move. He has a knack for working with major, major stars and putting them in an awesome light over and over again. People are really good in his movies where you're just like, I love that guy in that movie. And 15 years, I mean, he made a shitload of money and then gave us Jason Ryman. Is that a really good career too? Who's randomly in this movie? Yeah. And he I've been rightman thoughts though before we move on. I think it's really cool that when they go to Dominic's bedroom at the end of the scene, if you look closely, there's some ghost busters pillows on Dominic's bed, which I think is just awesome. Listen, ghost busters, one of the most important movies the last 50 years. Every single person in it, if you weren't there for that sensation, this was light years ahead of kindergarten cop, which we love, but one of the most important movies ever made at the 26 million for this one, they spent it made 202, finished 10th, crushed it all the way around 111 minutes plus 21 on the whole back scale. We don't have Craig for this podcast, but he's going to come on on the end with his review here. He'd never seen it. Really? So we'll find out what he thought. We do know what Roger Ebert thought three stars. That's great. Take it. The film is made up quote of two parts that shouldn't fit, but somehow they do making a slick entertainment out of the improbable, the impossible and Arnold Schwarzenegger. That was Roger three stars. I was surprised. That would have thought two and a half stars. Great, but it's more than two parts. There's six different parts. There's so much on Arnold's shoulders in this and we laugh at his accent, his acting and stuff, holds the camera for every single scene. And honest, I'm going to get to this later. Is this maybe the some of the best acting he's ever done in his career? There's stuff that I really believe that he's feeling. And I don't usually say that about him. I actually think it's the best he's ever been in a movie. It's great for using all his parts. And what's interesting, they make the decision near the end. Well, he basically loses the shootout. Like somebody has to save his ass. He's going to get killed by some psycho grandmother, but he gets shot by two different characters. And he's kind of cool with it. It makes him vulnerable, right? He's not like a superhero. I just don't know of Stallone and Van Dam and pick anybody from that error. No, no, this guy seems weak because he did win. Let's remember, so God won't let himself get punched by anyone in any movie, even like a 300 pound bouncer. Arnold here is saved by a diminutive woman. That's a pretty cool decision to me. I don't know if that was happening back then. Yeah, it was the old William Goldman. Obviously, he's talked about that. So stars have to be stars in the movie. They don't want to look weak. And he was using the example of Warren Beatty. Didn't want to be in misery because of the crippling scene. Yeah, because the guy's crippled. He's a loser from that point on. And it's like, I can't, I can't play that part. I'm not going to be a loser. And Arnold, like, he ends this movie. He's shot by two different people. He's a kindergarten teacher with the limp. But he's like, I'm fine. I'm good. This is really so good movie. We're going to take a break. And then we got to go through watchables. The categories are really fun for this movie. This episode is brought to you by McDonald's. Right now, McDonald's. You can get great deals all day with McValue. That's right. Jumpstart your day with the under $3 menu featuring a sausage McMuffin for just $1.50 or grab the perfect lunch with the McDouble for just $2.50. Honestly, nothing pairs with a movie marathon like a McDouble in hand. I kind of love the McDouble's. Get even more value with McValue only at McDonald's, but up, up, up, up, up, limited time only. Prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher for delivery. Most rewatchable scene. I'll offer you a couple. What do you got? The plain scene into the driving puke montage with Arnold and Pamela Reed. Unless you want to go with any of this stuff at the very beginning, the violent stuff when Arnold's got the beard and the sunglasses. I don't know if you're into the part. I like the beard and sunglasses. I like Arnold and the drug den with a shotgun and just shooting everything. It feels a lot like Terminator 1 when Arnold goes into Technuar, the club. It's almost like a note for note. I really, really like that part. Arnold's kicking ass. The beard is preposterous. The hair is terrible. And that's part of the laughing at Arnold that we talked about. So I'm here for that for sure. I was going to do this later. Let's do it now. Okay. Patched on beard? Yeah, terrible. Real beard? Is it possible? He just one of those. He grew real beard and it just looks fake when he grows a beard because we know those people too. The guys that grow beards and it doesn't seem like a real beard. I think that they did not have a real beard. We saw Arnold with heavy struff and predator. We see him with a beard and the running man briefly and he looks fucking awesome. He looks like the brownie man. This is like this wooly, wooly patch on miscolored thing. It looks horrible, but we like it. I thought it was fake, but I wasn't. You also could have sold me like he died dead or did something weird. Between that and the sunglasses, I don't know what's going on. It's like a parody of some of those other movies. So playing scene in the driving puke montage, we get Arnold threatening the kid by breaking the pencil. We get Angela Bassett as the flight attendant out of the clouds with one line. Well before she became the queen. And we get Arnold repeatedly just watching his partner puke and being confused by it. Like he's never seen a human being struggle physically with anything before us. Okay, Arnold's first day of school. We kicked things off with one of the kids going boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. Killer line brought the house down the theater. Penelope Miller tells him kindergarten is like the ocean. He didn't want to turn your back on it. Good line. Comes back. It's fucking chaos. Leading to Arnold gun. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. So sensible. So fun. And then he has to get the ferret. A lot of ferret in this. The ferret with no name. I mean, listen, is this apex mountain for ferrets. So I had that read down as a strong yes. Ferrets had a moment of about a year and a half before people realized they were just overgrown rats and not fun to hang out with and kind of stinky.
And then the big Lebowski, there's a nice marmot, there's a ferret. And then is that the richer gear one or is that something different? Was he a ferret guy? I was at gerbos. I can't distinguish my marmits. But Arnold plays, who's your daddy? And what does he do? This has the, it's not a tumor, it's not a tumor at all. This has confessions from the kids, including my dad is a guy. And ecologist. Fantastic. I don't think that they're playing, who's your daddy now in 2026? I'm guessing that got vetoed by the school principal. Especially what does he do? Like that's none of your business, we're not doing any of that. One of the reasons this is such a good scene is we just get to hang out with all these different kids. There's like 10 kids. It's like, all right, cool. I'm actually, it's not just like this anonymous classroom, I feel like I'm learning. It feels like what they would now put in as outtakes during the closing credits. Here's this great stuff we recorded, but it's actually in the movie. I actually think one of the faults is I think they should have done more of that. Like the kids are on fire. The kids are cooking, especially the girl at the end who has to go to the bathroom and can't do the overalls. Like that stuff is all, all gold. I wish they would have done more. I agree. And I think if, if I had notes that they had sent me the script and I could have waited on some stuff, I probably would have cut down on Chris a little bit. I would have had Arnold trying to get the kids ready for a player, something like play it up more where he has to like run a rehearsal. No, you came in too soon and do that whole thing. We could have done that with the Gettysburg address and you're on to something, dude. My favorite word that Arnold Schwarzenegger says, he says like 12 times this movie is, come on. Come on. He's come. He's a fire. Come on. Yeah. And that's what he says in Frederick. Come on, kill me. I'm here. He hits that one so hard. And every time he says, come on, I laugh. And I want to run around with him. I have another idea for this that I have a later part of the pot. The milk nap scene I really like, just like very tender scene ever, but just seeing kids drink milk. I don't know. Do they do that anymore? Probably not. No. Arnold reads a book and we have the Nightmare Doze off. That seems good. Arnold almost kills Pamela Reed's fiance. And she goes right from I think having sex to just diving into a play to pasta and explain where was the pasta in bed? It was pasta next to where like what happens there? There's a lot with that character in the eating. It's like four jokes too many. I get it. She like 14. Yeah. It might be 14. That thing gets beaten to a pulp. And the fact that she just was having sex to fiance is not eating like an apple or something show a plate of pasta before it's not realistic. What was that guy's name Barry? Barry is a chef. Arnold beats up Zack's dad. Let's go. Shout abuser. And then the principal instead of saying like you're suspended for two weeks is like how did it feel to punch him? I loved it. This was great. Most 1990 stretch of the movie. Teachers punching a parent. Can you imagine the screenwriter at the computer typing out the line? You hit the kid. I hit you. He was fucked. Yes. Miller time. Like that is gold. Let's go, baby. He goose necked that thing right out of his office. And by the principal, the principal seems to know that that father was the child beater. Right. That's just the thing that people know that he's beating up this kid. And afterwards, she's like, yeah, that was awesome. How you punched him again in front of the school. The teacher's everything and you could have punched him again. I'm just trying to think of somebody pitching that at a movie they're writing in 2026. Yeah. And the kind of notes they would get from from from the studio. Oh, yeah. The child abuse that plot. So yeah, we're going to have to maybe take that out. Do we need to actually show the bruising on the child's neck? Yeah. We think it's key. I mean, it's that's intense. In the research, Arnold was really passionate about touching a couple of real life stories, including the abuse of children and kind of push them to like, we have to have this in the movie. This is an important topic. And that's why it's the. That's the Arnold difference. Yeah. But like, I don't think the action stars are like, how big's my trailer? How cool do I look when I punched the guy? Yeah. And Arnold's like, we really need to focus on the damages of divorce in the American household. Like, and that's the shit that he wanted. He's a genius, man. Two more of the fair, little heart tugs, heart tugs speech about Arnold. Oh, yeah. From Linda Hunt. The principal. Well, it gets a little touchy in the throat watching, I don't know what kind of police officer you are, but you are a very good teacher. I was like, am I crying at kindergarten cop? Holy shit, Mr. Kim. But we did it. Paul in the room right now. Wow. And then we get the big fire shoot at ending. Stranger. Stranger. And that's what we did back then. We say stranger danger and don't accept candy from kids and they just learn that from the other cop before he comes in the hallway. So this guy, Chris shows up at the school, has an interview with the principal for some reason, even though it seems like it's a public school, he could just join the school. Seize this kid. Yeah. And he's like, all right, what's my plan? Could wait like eight hours, maybe tail him home. Nah. Let's do this now. Should I, should I set a huge fire to the kids library? I love it. Thousands of books and Cosmast panic and that's what I'm going to do. And my mom's going to wait in the car with a gun. And then when the kids scurry into the hallway and the sprinklers go off, I'll just kind of run in there and grab them amongst the 200 kids and then I'll just go upstairs. Yeah, go upstairs where there's no escape. Get up there. What could go wrong? It's a fire. There's water everywhere. It's really. The last ten minutes of the movie are preposterous. It's really a bad plan. The plane is trying to land and it's just dragging sparks all over the runway, but you're here for it. What is the most rewatchable scene for you? It's not a too much. I think it's Arnold's opening speech. I'm Mr. Kimbo. I want the man said immediately and then the tumor and all that's the questions about what my dad does. Yeah. Arnold's first day just could have basically been its own movie where he's finally like, I found a, I have a ferry to my car. I'm going to go get the ferry. It's his last move. The ferry has no name. Said this ferry has never named the ferry. It's just his by pet ferret. It's not like this. Doesn't make any sense. First thing kids would do is they name the. Yeah. This is Benny. I have that as well. What's the most 1990 thing about this movie other than giving those little cartons of milk to each kid? Each with a straw. Whole milk. Yeah. Whole milk. I was when they would run those commercials when it said like milk. It does a body good and the kid who's getting bullied drinks milk and then he turns into six foot ten. They work. Milk was everywhere back then. I think that's the winner. I got, I got a one seed. All right. What do you got? All right. The opening scene of the movie is shot in the great American shopping mall and that's not enough specifically crisp and silk clothes, a ponytail and smoking a cigarette is walking through the mall and what does he pass behind him a Brookstone store? Oh, wow. And like that is the shit. Stone that was funded almost exclusively by divorce dads who would pay $2,500 per massage chair in 1990 dollars and you go in there and just fuck around and try stuff when you went there with your friends. Brookstone and they're like blood-crip battle with the sharper image. That was so 1990 and Chris walking past it with a say, amazing. Incredible. Great job. I think that beats milk. I think that beats Arnold's pet ferret. I think it beats the cars. The cars are very 1990 in this movie, including like all this whole car rear lay. Yeah. She got a geotracker. I look that shit off. A red geotracker. It's awesome. And then every single moment, second, everything with Richard Tyson in this movie, she feels like it could only have happened in 1990. 1991. No, 89. No, 90. Yes. Yep. That's it. It's the only year he could have been in this. Floyd Gandoli, butter and my ass and lolly pops in my mouth award for something I just enjoy. Yeah. No surprise. But for me, it's, it's Arnold just delivering not the Arnold Lions, like the home run, money shot lines that they know are going to crush, but him just say normal basic things. Mm-hmm. I'm the Pate Pupa. So good. He uses the dolls to look at the girl's skirts. I coach basketball and I'll go school and Rhode Island. There's no bathroom. Back to the carpet. If he does it again, I press charges. I like going. It just any line is perfect with him. And I was really fun to write those out as Arnold, like Arnold English versus actually English. But yeah, it's just, I'm always going to enjoy it for the rest of my life hearing him just say normal lines. Did you have any thoughts bill on what kind of system John Kimball ran when he was coaching basketball? Was it like a spread system? Was it his own defense? Like a patino like press trap all up and down the court, full court press slapping the floor man. What did he ever even hold the basketball? I can't think of a time. He says in this movie, he says he grew up in Austria. Well, that was my answer. I enjoy and I respect in Arnold movies when they take the care to address why the fuck this guy talks like this and sometimes they don't do it. They're like screw it, jingle all the way. He lives in the suburbs married to Rita Wilson, no reason at all for his voice or
his physique. This one they're like, well, he grew up in Austria. And that's why he talks. I appreciate that. And sometimes they just ignore that shit. But I love that they do it here. They would be like, yeah, they'll have movies where he's just like Don Smith. Yeah. No big deal. And he says, California is like, why is Mr Smith talked that way? And why does he look like he does 275 for reps on the incline press? What the fuck is with Mr Smith? Would say it's the best. I'll start us off with a story of Oregon. Yeah. It just seems like the best place on earth. I have no idea if it is whatever they filmed this. It's just seems like the happiest, nicest place you could ever raise a kid except for unless Chris shows up and says, fired your school library sets off massive shooting. Terrorizes the patrons of the local toy store. Yeah. I remember when we did the Rudy pod and we were just like, this is just an infomercial for the Notre Dame campus. Every person wants to apply to Notre Dame, after this is so beautiful. And this is the story in the heels of several years earlier where the goonies was and it's on the beach and there's pirate ships. So like, the story was a beautiful place back. They never been, but it looks great in movies. I have Jason Reitman as the boy that Kimball catches kissing somebody when there's the fire. And Jason Reitman is the little kid that runs out or though like he's like a 13 year old Arnold Spear we mentioned. Child abuse plots in the 80s and 90s as a plot device as we were just starting to figure out that child abuse might be bad. I would say that's age the best because now now I think we have a better handle on that that it's bad. Yeah, I think we have a zero tolerance policy now. 1990 maybe not. Maybe it's like, hey, can look at it from both sides. We remember those like when they would say coming up on a very special episode of growing pains. Oh, yeah, it would be like Mike Sieber tries drugs or like the different strokes article or episode where the guy who won the bike store is like trying to get with Arnold like they would do those things all the time. And we that's how we learned about this stuff. Different strokes did two of them because there's another one now Gordon jump as the pedophile bike shop guy. Yep. Who really took some liberties with Dudley. We still don't really know what happened. We don't want to talk about it but something bad probably happened and Arnold foiled it. There was another one with somebody who locked Arnold in a room and was trying to get it out with Dana Plato who was like 12 sure. That was like the lot like different strokes went back to the world multiple times. And then family ties was the other one that had no problem crossing the line with anything. This is how hard we're about to nerd out. I can think of a third different strokes episode in which the son from over the top the annoying kid is from the military. Oh, yeah. He's in it and I think he's selling drugs to Arnold and his best friend. It's like they did him like once a month they were doing another special episode. Those were the normal episodes. Facts of life did it too. This is what we grew up with. This is why Kendrick at the top. We hit this point where everybody's like. No big deal. Yeah. Fine. And he would say it's the best for you. Yeah. I have a I have two great poster. And you know what I miss Bill? You'll totally get this. I miss when it was one name over the poster and just the last name Swartz and Ager. Stallone. Not Sylvester. Not Arnold. And this is kind of cool because I saw the poster. Yeah. Look at that. Look at that. They don't even need to say Arnold. But I just saw the poster for project Hail Mary. And it just says Gosling. There's no Ryan. Oh, yeah. That isn't such a status symbol that they don't put any other actors. They don't even put your fucking first name. Just the last name. And I feel like it's kind of throwback. Very cool. There was. It's a great point. There was some stuff in the 80s that we were just doing better. Another was Sports Illustrated covers. Oh, yeah. They would just have the one picture with as tight of a headline as possible and the Sports Illustrated. And especially in the 80 late 70s 80s. It got to the point you couldn't wait to see what the cover was. And then they started cluttering it with all these other things on it. But the best covers ever had were just the picture with like a small headline. Sometimes we don't have a headline. Same thing with the posters. I just think we started overthinking the posters. That's the kind of poster. Put your star. That's her last name. We're ready to go. What's your other would say is the best ponytail villains. Like this. I have my handful of my favorites. And Chris is way up there. I got Ben Kingsley and sneakers, which we did. A guy who's been knighted who has a ponytail. Yeah. My guy Julian Sands and the movie Warlock goes with a heavy ponytail. Sam Jackson and Jackie Brown is braided. And then one that's near and dear to you. I think you have to have Terry Silver on the list from Karate Kid 3. And then again in Cobra Kai. And then I got Chris with thick side-parted ponytail. It's really, really cool. I miss they don't do that anymore. It's a great point. Did you have a friend who occasionally went ponytail and it would completely change his personality? I had a friend who went rap tail, which was much different. And that was like shaved short and just an isolated ponytail. Did you have a ponytail? Or were you ponytail guy? No, my hair goes up, not down. Oh, yeah. No, we had in my bar restaurant days, my roommate actually Richard, aka Ricky, who is the guy who got us the illegal cable box that I've been to watch four straight years of illegal pay-per-view movies. He had long hair and sometimes he could go ponytail with it. And it was a complete game changer. Like he would just immediately look like he was one of the villains at an early 90s movie. And then when he didn't have it, it was like normal. And then the ponytail would, would swing it and he became kind of like a little dangerous looking. I was always like, yeah, it was like, let's up with this guy. Great shot, Gordon reward for most cinematic shot. The nightmare scene is good. It's a good zag because you just think he fell asleep with a kid. And then all of a sudden, crisps him. Denathy's Benihana word scene still in location. Obviously, a story. Yeah, it's awesome. Big Kahloon, a burger word, best use of food and drink. It's got to be the milk. It's 100% the milk. And how about it? It's not easy to create sexual tension with a beverage like milk. And she straight up wipes it off his lip as there's 20 sleeping kids there. I mean, they're halfway to third base at that point. Right. Penelope is so horny. She's she's way into Mr. Kimball and God bless her. That's how she likes big guys. Oh, yeah. We have a special one. The Steven Segal shitting on himself for word for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shit. I always try to use this category. I'm so glad you have it. What is it? Oh, it's a pleasure to put this on. So I have, this is from the premiere article. And they ask the kids what they think of Arnold. And Arnold claims kids love when they kids love when they can teach you grown up. So, of course, they all started doing no, no, do it this way. And then premiere asks, what did the kids think of Arnold? According to meta, a six year old girl, Arnold is strange as a teacher, but I like him. Says Jim Jim, another five year old with a giggle. He picks his nose. I saw him pick his nose lots of times. I saw him eat like a pig once. No, nonetheless, Jim Jim wants to grow up like Schwarzenegger if only because he can lift everyone up. So it's just in the premiere magazine. So in the movie Arnold picks his nose. That's your anecdote. Yeah, I can see that. Giant nose. And then Arnold had some tidbits. He said he took his role seriously as the leader in the, on the set and the teacher. I always gave them kind of the tough talk because they believe that 100%. A kid would be crying because she fell on her knees. I would say, why are you crying? Because my knee hurts. I'd say, but this sounds like a little girl. Real tough people don't cry. Really? Yeah, they don't cry. They fall in the knees. They look at it. Maybe tears come to their eyes, but then they swallow and say the hell with it. So what? And the kid looks at me and says, it's a good idea. Whenever they're tuned into you and you can get a message through them, you can move on with so you can move in with something. So Arnold's basically, he's like, I really thought these kids had to be tougher on the set. I think it took real pride in it. And he sounds like a psycho. Like there's no way now people like, hey, the star of your movie. Yeah, upgraded my daughter because she fell on her knee and told her to be tough and shake it off. I'm calling HR. But no, 1990. We were fine. They wanted him to do it. I think Arnold was very intense about fitness and wellness and diet and all that stuff. There's that scene where he's got the kids doing the sit-ups. And you could tell, like, maybe those kids get a little tired, Arnold. They're like, six years old. They can't really bang out 100 crunches. And he was still coaching them to do it. I love it. Yeah, kids at this point, it's a miracle if they're potty trained and not like having meltouts. Arnold's like, hey, I need you to do a hundred sit-ups. He really was making them work out on, on the set, like trying to get out, keep everybody exercise. All right, you have a flex category. What do you got? Well, I'm a little disappointed. I thought there might be a porn parody where Kimble sleeps with all the horny single moms, but there, uh, I look, there is no kindergarten. I suddenly looked as well. Yeah, there was one of my, uh, I don't know for both on a watch list now because, because Googling kindergarten cop porn parody probably immediately puts you on a watch list, but I did look as well. It's fun. In my next window over my next tab, I have, it is Chris Ponytail real. I'm searching all kinds of weird shit for this. No, I went with the, um, the, uh, BAM out of IO award for where the hell did these 83 points come from? Yeah. I understand that I've been right, man, had worked with Arnold. And I'm sure he had the highest hopes for how Arnold's acting might be in this big project. But when he's sitting there, that dinner scene and that fancy restaurant and Arnold is just throwing those eyes over at Penelope and they're
There's real actual chemistry and you feel like Arnold is in love with her. Right man had to be like, cut Arnold holy shit. That was great. What? We're moving on. Let's go. And he had to be, that didn't exceed his greatest expectations because that's real acting Aaron's doing. Wow. That's a good call. He's proud of him. Should we do it? Should we cover another thing? No. No, no. Don't get me. Nobody crazy. Did you see what he just did? No way. The Butch's Girlfriend Award for weak link of the film. Okay. The mother-son relationship with Chris and his mother in this movie is abjectly bonkers. To the point where are we sure they were mother and son? Are we sure she wasn't like a sugar mama and they were pretending to be mother-son but it was just like some rich lady that he was having sex with because no mother and son interact like this ever. In real life, in movies, there's like sexual attention with him. He keeps kissing her time. It's fucking weird and I don't really fully understand what they're trying to do here. Tell you what, young people out there, ladies, guys, whatever. If you meet someone, if you meet a man and they address their mother as mother-run, that is not a good thing. No one should be saying, mother, all right, we don't do that. I have one of my best friends from high school, we always joke about this movie with the two of them. He thinks that he thinks that Chris is still on the tip, like he thinks that he's actually nursing still and that there should be a scene with that. It's heavily edible. It's so weird and I think that they may like sleep, make it and cuddle each other. It's so strong. It's like Game of Thrones and the 13-year-old was nursing. Yes. Yeah. What does that guy say? A kid who sits up from the nipple with a milk running, except this guy's like, "Ferdy." That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, I would believe that. I would believe any version of however you wanted to describe the relationship between these two people, but it's not mother and son. I don't know what's happening. Let me drop one more on this because I had this in what's age the worst. She goes to the local pharmacy. What's age the worst? Rectal thermometers. That was really a thing back in the day where you would come home and be like, "I don't feel so good." She'd like, grab your ankles and spread your cheeks and put it right up your ass, 98.6. If you went into to CVS today, do they still have rectal thermometers? Are those still a thing? No way, right? We really wish we had Craig here because this is like, especially to answer weird questions. Yeah. So Craig, imagine you felt like you might have had a fever and you go to your mom and she takes your temperature, but not like under your tongue. He would go in your bottle and they would like, "Luvid." And that was, I don't think it was even that strange, they got a lot of people did it. I know nobody who did this. You never had it? I don't think so. So my interpretation of that was rectal thermometer was to insinuate like how evil this person was because it's like she won't just take your temperature. She's gonna really take your temperature. And she did it to Chris though when he, Chris when he was growing up. Right. And I'm sure that at that pharmacy, there were many conventional thermometers available, including the digital kind by 1990. No, you can't get a true reading of the temp unless you go rectal. And then you have to be like, "Luv, how disgustingly sadistic is a rectal thermometer? Just feel your kids forehead and move on." I'm glad we talked about this. Definitely. Got to hit it. Did you have the same wake wake? My weak link is, Pamela Reed is a very good actress. I got enough of that character. I don't need all of the eating and the puke in it. I think there's a lot of it. And it's not my favorite part of the movie. What sage the worst? The big ending with an active shooter arsonist in an elementary school just bizarre decision. I love it. Playing who's your daddy? Having a pet ferret and there was a standalone sequel called kindergarten cop 2 in 2016 starring Dolph Lungren that I guess we're just not going to talk about. And Bill Bellamy. I watched the trailer yesterday and it was the terrible use of 60 seconds. Bad. Rectal thermometer wins, but what else do you have? I have Rectal Thermometer written down. I could have picked 50 different things. How about this? How about climbing the rope in gym class? That's not a thing anymore. You would climb 30-some feet, touch the ceiling of a gymnasium and they would have a two-inch pad down on the floor in case you fell. Right. No fucking preposterous thing to have. That's not it. My kids don't climb the rope in gym class. They had kindergarteners doing in this movie. Another one which you mentioned earlier was the little kid looking up little girl skirts for comedy sake. Come on. Plus like the whole explanation of the mom being relieved that maybe he's not going to wear skirts. Everything about that probably is the worst. Trying to think what else? The hotel, like just them staying in the same hotel room. I don't know if that's a nit pick or I would say it's worse, but just get two rooms here in the middle, nowhere in Oregon, like you could probably get side by side with the doors that are open and closed. They're like roommates. Why? I'm not really sure. They sleep in the same room. They had no problem having the plane ticket. I don't think there's that type of a budget, but it is a little weird. It just makes it so that he can walk in with the fiancee seen in the pasta, which is a very great scene. Any other would say it's the worst? No. We've covered all of mine. Okay. We're going to take a break and then we'll come back with the Hans Gruber scale next. Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new groupie setting mist from Mavily New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. No tightness. No stickiness. No residue. Just plum. Do we hydrate it skin? That still feels like your skin. My new groupie setting mist from Mavily New York. Maybe it's Mavily. Hans Gruber scale. So you could go crisp or you can go crisp mom here. I don't know where you want to go. I would go crisp. I like crisp. I think he's weird and scary and he has that scene in the interrogation room. He's just like you're old. My old lady left me because of the money. Yours left because you couldn't stand the sight of you and he's talking shit to Schwarzenegger and it works. But it's just like the ponytail does so much of the heavy lifting and the wardrobe. I'm here for it. I like it. I have it. I have him at like a six five on the Gruber scale. It's just much to work with. But I like him. You want the mom? I'm out of four. I'm out of four for both of them. Chris isn't doing it for you. I expected to show up to this pod and you'd be like, I just want to talk about Chris for 90 minutes. Not do ever did it for me. Well, there's also there's baggage with him because he's in three o'clock Richard Tyson's in three o'clock high, which he was good in. But then is in two moon junction with Sheryl and Fenn, which was one of the pre skin and max like early Newtie cable movies that was on. And it was just really weird to then just see him in this movie two years later when you just think of him over and over again, having slow motion sex with Sheryl and Fenn and now he's Chris. Chris is the first, first, first move I ever saw him in thinking of him having slow motion sex with his mom. So that's the reason I. My issue with him, you like it more than I do. Yeah. Argyah Brad Wesley from Roadhouse, yeah, who every scene he's in, he's equally like Lossum and I think he's supposed to serve the same purpose as Chris. But every scene he's in is hilarious. Everything he does is hilarious. The people around him are hilarious and it's just like he kind of plays it perfectly. I still don't understand what Chris is doing in this movie. Exactly. I guess he's evil because he steals the race car set from that poor guy who was just trying to bring it to his kid. That's like, and then he shoots somebody once, but it's, and all of a sudden he's burning a library. I just don't know what to make of Chris. And then in his final scene with Dominic, he goes for the Academy Award when he's just pulling him in like this. And you're my son. Like he's really going for it. Whereas as your point Brad Wesley, yeah, God damn JC Petty is coming because of me. Right. That's a line right there. That actually probably be more evil. I think he's in kind of no man's land from Neville standpoint. They need like four more evil things. I read something that, that they thought that he wasn't evil enough and that they were actually sympathizing with him, test audiences. And so they added some nasty shit and probably including the totally gratuitous thing where he beats up some man who wants the race car. Yeah. Yeah. Um, rough low hand up Ruben and Parcher Joe reacting for it. We just did it. Richard Tyson. He's going for it. Dominic. Yeah. He's doing streetcar name desire. Like he is going for it in the monologue. He's trying to win the Academy Awards and I'm going to happen, but I like Chris though. Special category. Okay. The Ed Norton reverse dunk award for this movie need a random sports scene. What do you got? This goes back to the earlier thing we're talking about is like, do we need one or two more scenes with Donald and the kids? Like a recess, like a game of tag or a little dodgeball, maybe Arnold playing dodgeball. I'm just not turning the channel for three minutes. Not a chance. Y'all. I hit you. Come on, come on, boom. And they would have beat Billy Madison to it who did dodgeball like a few, five, handful of years later. That would be great. You could do so. I could you could talk me to some kickball any sort of recess activity with Arnold grunting in a big shirt. Arnold ordering people around like maybe child abuse kid is the hero of the dodgeball game. Arnold makes the catch and falls on his disturbingly bruised back. Like yeah, I don't know. There's just, I just want to like something. All right.
things Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. How does take the word? What do you got? Bill, I'm I'm team Chris in this movie. I sympathize with Chris. I'll tell you why. I'm stunned by this. I thought we would be making fun of a way more. No, this, this character just wants to be with his son. He, he, you can't just take a child and run across the country. Fathers have rights. What is this alleged criminal past he has? He's not in prison. It sounds to me like Kimball is obsessed with him is a loser. Remember, Kimball won't go and get his own son who he's estranged from. Yeah. Chris just wants his son. So he, he executes some junkie who's trying to extort him for money. Not a chance. I think Chris is actually the sympathetic figure here. And I think that Arnold is this sort of predatory teacher. And the mom is bipolar and Chris was like, I got to get my kid out of there. Yeah. Just me and like, what soon as they get to town, he buys him a toy. The mom buys medicine. They're looking out for the child. And I'm team Chris in this. I think it's like a Johnny Lawrence karate kid thing where we need to look at this way differently. So it's like over the top, Stallone's the hero trying to reunite with his kid. No different here with Chris. Yeah. This is a, this is a divorce movie like over the top. Listen, Arnold, when they took a list of Milano from you in Commando, you took a guy's head off with a saw blade to get her back. Like, you understand, Chris just wants his son. And I think that belongs in court and we can settle it. Arnold doesn't understand in this movie because he abandoned his child. We didn't even know where that kid is. I had a child. Yeah. My son Alex, I used to read him this book. Well, why the fuck are you in a story with these kids go find your son, man? Like Chris would do the real hero of this movie. That's the hot take. It's a great one. Really impressive. What do you got? Mine is this movie spawned so many bad rip off versions of it with famous actors trying to pull off kindergarten cop. It's almost better. I would sacrifice this movie and have it never happened to save ourselves from the 40 terrible movies that came out after this. Fine. It's a little like a Dr. Oppenheimer thing. Like, is it, is it, if Dr. Oppenheimer just gets wiped out, are we saved from nuclear war? Does nuclear war happen anyway? Kindergarten cop, if we just wipe it out, are we saved 40 terrible movies that you and I both watch with our kids and have just hated ourselves as we sat there wondering what happened? See, this is why this is why you're you because you'll have nuclear war and we get to avoid the movie called The Tooth Fairy. It's apples for apples and I agree. You know what Arnold proves to, he is so talented and so charismatic. It's hard to talk to children. I'm talking about you, me. If you go to a friend's house and they have a seven-year-old and they walk in, you'll be like, "Hey, buddy." You either do that dumb kid voice where you talk really high or it's just hard to talk to kids that you don't know very well. He does it in this movie beautifully. It's not that easy. Can I give a tip to the listeners, just in case they don't know how to do this? Because I feel like I'm great with kids and dogs. Kids and dogs are really my willhouse. Sure. Just talk to them like a normal human being. Don't raise your voice. Don't treat them like they've had some sort of head injury. Just like, just try to interact with them and make eye contact with them and guess what? They'll probably have a conversation back with you. This isn't hard. But it's one of those things you don't realize until you have kids and you watch how people talk to your kids and you're like, "Yeah." Why is this person talking to my five-year-old daughter like she should be wearing a helmet? Like, what's happening right now? My daughter can have a conversation with you. She's not an idiot. Go. Talk to her. Anyway. When the kid walks in, you go, "Hey, bud." And you're like, "Hey, curl it down." Purge you like the lakers. How do you like Luca? I would give the same advice also for talking to seniors. They've seen some shit. You can just talk to them normally. They'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah. Get it on with them. Just say anything. They're ready to go. Bring up politics. Give me your best punch. Bring up politics. They're ready to roll. All right. What do you think about this? I ran situation. Let's talk immigration. Yeah. They're ready. Casting what ifs. Bill Murray and Patrick Swazie were considered for the lead role before Arnold. Bill Murray, no way. I can't see him in right to kids, no way. Now, that's not where my interest is. Let's get to the second one. Swazie could have done this. I think it would have been a really interesting movie for him, a year and a half after Roadhouse. Swazie had the unintentional comedy at least a little bit. I would still maybe lean more toward like a Keanu Reeves late 90s situation if I was going to go out of the box with Arx and Harris. Yeah. Like a hard ball. But I think we were in the right hands of Arnold here. Yeah. There's this crazy part where Chris breaks into the school and tells Mr. Kimball that he used to fuck teachers like him and prison. And it was like it didn't test well with audiences. Yeah, they did. He did it. He already has that scene in Roadhouse where he's like, it is my way or the highway. You're the bounce. That's him talking to the kids. That would work. And then he rips Chris throw it out. Well, could we? Could we have merged those two movies together? Could kind of go. Yeah, he's like the cooler. Sam Elliott shows up halfway through. So I don't understand. This is in the research and it seemed real. But I haven't rightman did consider Danny DeVito and decided the height thing was going to be too weird. I can't imagine why Danny DeVito would be kindergarten cop. It's a completely different movie. I'm also not against it because he's smaller. He can relate more with the kids, but I just seems bizarre to me. I don't know. I just don't buy him as a police officer. Yeah, it's got to be something else. It's funny that he's the same size as the kids. It's the opposite joke, but obviously they made the right choice. Catherine Haher was considered for the lead female role. But that was busy with home alone. Can do it. Sandra Bullock was considered for the role of Joyce, who I think was the child of B's mom and failed to impress Ivan rightman. Didn't get it. Elijah Wood also did not get the part. Three years. Elijah Wood can't get in the classroom. He's great. Three years later. He's in the good son. Christian Slater was considered for crisp because Ivan rightman liked him and heathers and Slater turned it down. Did pump up the volume. Great choice. That's fun. Yeah, played hard Harry. I don't know if this is true, but Audrey Hepburn was offered the role of owner Chris, but turned it down because she loves children. Very strange. No idea if Audrey Hepburn buying the rectal thermometer. Like, yeah, I think that's a little beneath her. Yeah, that's that guy word. So the guy driving the armored truck in the beginning of heat who is also LA confidential. Let's go. The first guy, Arnold Punches in this movie, whatever that guy's name is, he wins again. You're referring to the legendary Thomas Rosale's junior who slaps a woman in the first few minutes of a PG-13 movie and is in everything and he is the driver of it. We're being held up on the radio. That guy's a legend. See that shit coming out there. You're slick. I can't fucking, but I would be remiss not to shout out. Steven Park, AKA the legend Mike Yanagita is in kindergarten cop. And if you don't know this, he's in one scene. He's looking over the dead body of the OD girlfriend and it's totally straight and there's no Yanagita at all. But I was out of the couch off the couch, like on the couch, Tom Cruz style when Yanagita showed up. I rewound it. That was Gus Johnson doing Yanagita might have been your highlight and rewatchable. So 30 episodes. DM Waiters, the word probably one of the kids. I think I might be partial to the girl who just seemed like she was in a different movie. The one with the overalls that she can't get off and has to go to the bathroom. Yeah. And then later she's kind of like battling Arnold and there's just something really funny about that kid. I don't feel like any of that stuff was scripted. I think they probably brought her in and we're like, wow, this girl's a fucking wild card. Just keep the cameras rolling. She'll do something weird. It's that girl who is excellent or it's it's penis vagina, which she says penis vagina. The kid who plays penis vagina kid was the year prior in pet cemetery as gauged like the devil baby from the cemetery and he was like three years old like slashing Achilles. That kid worked. They they still works. The kid who played Dominic. It was actually two twins, the cousin twins. Yeah, I think this was the highlight for them. Recasting couch director city. I have a lot of thoughts here. Well, I have three. Do you have one before I do? I do. Okay. Yeah. Sitting right there James Cameron. What are we doing? Let's do this thing. Let's get Jamie Lee as the other teacher. It's already Arnold protecting a kid as he's going to do a couple of years later. Let's up the production value and the violence. Although James Cameron would probably see it be like, yeah, but what if the students were like really tall and blue and had tails and some dumb shit like that. But at the time Cameron was in his prime and I would like to see him more with Arnold. What do you got? Arnold's one of the three biggest stars in the world at this point. Definitely. I've been right, but I think is one of the four most proven directors at this point for big budget movies that you know you're going to make the money back. I don't know why the cast isn't like bigger and more ambitious. I'd like to offer you Julie Roberts as the teacher on the run. Why not? Yeah. I'd like to offer you Nick Cage in the in the Chris part. Nice point of his career. That's fantastic. I'd like to offer you. Fade down a way, her Shirley McLean as the mom. Let's go Oscar winners. Ellen Burston, come on down. Let's get somebody who's actually like been in the Oscar conversation.
But this is the big, egregious one. If I could change anything, it would be this. Kathleen Turner, can't you come in for two scenes to play the. Moriarty. The Kathy Moriarty part. Yeah. Just come in and can you throw 99 for two scenes? Just hit the corners. Just do your thing. What about what about Kimbles' partner is could you do Meg Ryan there or is she needs to be the female lead? I don't think it can be somebody you feel like Arnold is going to try to fuck during the movie. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be. She has to kind of feel like she might blow him if you put two glasses of wine in her as that kind of vibe, but he's going to stay away because she's flirty with him a couple times. Yeah. She kisses him on the lips at the end of the movie. Yeah. What is that? A little sweet on him. Yeah. So normally Craig has a flex category here, but he's not with us. So I'm going to do a special category in his honor. The Rick Siketti guard me to word for most memorable death by a security guard or other bystander who the movie treats as incontroquential, but who probably had a spouse and kids who love him. Poor guy goes to the local toy store to get a race car set for his kid. Miss Christmas didn't really understand that part. I was laid on Christmas. I got to make it up to him. Whatever it was going on. I don't know how you laid on Christmas. We don't. Did they laid on Christmas? They said I missed Christmas. It was something about. Yeah. Making up for Christmas. Yeah. Fies this race car set won't get brought for it. Really committed to it. And then I guess just gets murdered on the side of the road. He gets knocked out. He gets slammed into the door. Like he's out. I'll call right there on the sidewalk. Maybe worse. Like he might be. I don't watch. He might be dead. I watched a lot of the pit last couple weeks. He might be on the tube. Sure. Like he might be like the family is trying to decide whether to take him off the ventilator or not. All he's trying to do is just buy a race car set for his kids. So I think he wins that. And the guy who's refusing to sell it is polite. Like he's not an asshole to him and he's honestly like trying to make. Maybe he didn't have much money around Christmas time. And now he's scraped it together and his kids always want this. And our boy, Chris, just needs to the balls head to the door. It's. Really tough. Half past dinner at research. They actually filmed all this at Astoria at the John Jacob Astor Elementary School. Sure. Great tidbit here. Arnold insisted on a private studio for daily workouts. They basically built him a gym. I love it. I always love hearing this. Days of Thunder I think was the best one when Simpson and Brookheimer built like the three-story. I remember. They basically built an equinox. They spent like $2 billion. Yeah. Steve and Root is in five scenes that are cut out of the movie for some reason, I guess, for time. Oh, he's awesome. Yeah. I don't know. I know nothing other than that anecdote. April. April Fools 2012 is a prank. The criterion collection said they were releasing this as a Blu-ray desk, and everybody's like, "What's going on?" And now it is on 4K Blu-ray, and Sean Fantasy probably owns it. Definitely. You mentioned the goonies earlier somewhere around 1.6 miles away from the school, the house. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. And then I like this. Rightman invented the five rightman rules of filmmaking for the kids. Do you see this? Yeah. No, no, no. Here are the five rules. Listen. Act natural. Know your character. Don't look in the camera and be disciplined. Mm-hmm. I think don't look in the cameras. Probably the big one. I'm sure half of these kids probably just look at them. Everyone wants to look in the camera. Even adults. Apexbound. Arnold. Yes. We said that. We got it. That's it. Richard Tyson. I still think it's too much junction. Penelope Miller, I don't know. Let me tell you something about her. Let's give her a credit. She has a very cool factoid about her that she and in a very small period of time was in movies with Al Pacino, Robert De Niro and Marlon Brando, like all three godfathers. That's what you got asked. She holds her own and Arnold Schwarzenegger, of course. Yeah. So she, I forgot to do her little run. She's perfectly lovely, very good actress still in the game. Like, she does her thing in this movie. Her IMDB, the known for a fun game to see what IMDB decides the for Carlita's way, kindergarten cop, the artist and the freshman with Brando, those are the four they went for. Apexbound, hybrid action, kids movies, I think, yes. Yeah. Because we get so many kids sports movies like in Mighty Ducks and stuff like that, but not with shooting and killing and shotgun in people. That's pretty rare. This is it. Right. And probably ghost busters have to be a story. A yes undercover cop movies know tumors. I think yes, Tuma, I mean, yeah, money, Tuma did be in a fun way, Tumors in a fun way. Yes. Fun tumors. Honestly, if someone told you they sat you down and they're like, God, I have some really bad news. Like, they discovered a tumor. There's a sick voice in your head that would say it's not a Tuma. That's just how we're programmed at this point, sorry, those are the rules. And then I'm going to add this, I didn't have this in my initial notes. But you nailed it. Brookstone. Oh, fuck yeah. Because Brookstone has went Harry Met Sally the year before with the fringe on top. Yes. But it has a whole, I think that's Brookstone is a sharper image or Brookstone in that. I know. It feels like the same stores to me. They basically were. And it's going to crash into the taping right now, be like, it's fucking sharper image, you dumb ass. But yeah, Brookstone, it's right around here. And we all, I was in college back then, you would walk into the Brookstone, you weren't buying anything. Never. You could walk around 45 minutes. Everything was like $180 or $60 or $90, the person would always come over and say, can you help you? No, you can't. And then you would be like holding like a jelly can crunch to make your grip better. Like, you know, you can do the grip and they would have those things where if you pull one marble to the right, it sets off the back and forth chain reaction of the marble. Try some headphones on. Whoa, these headphones are great. Like there was the thing of nails where if you put your hand in the nail tray, it would like make the shape of your hand. It's like for douchebags to have in their office, like you think that they're 1990s Don Draper. That's the specialty there. The chairs were really the key. The chair. Sitting in the chair for five minutes without going to yell that it was a big win. Cruiser hanks. This is clearly cruise. There's no question. You think it's hanks? No, no, I can see hanks with the kids. I want it to be cruise for 50 different reasons why do you want it for cruise? Because cruise never did a movie like this. And honestly, other than Jerry McGuire, I don't remember him interacting with kids. It's funny to say that because I feel like he's in the full Jerry McGuire. Like desperation mode. He's at the end of his rope. And it's like teaching you kids is an up and down pride swallowing siege. It's that cruise. Plus then we get to pretend we had to see him like try to connect with Penelope romantically and that's always good sport. No, you left out first day of kindergarten cruise. Him losing his mind. You guys are driving crazy. Shut up. Shut up. Yeah. Although I want cruise as crisp too. People here for that and Frank T.J. Mackie mode, I can do that as well. Oh, I like that. Scorsese air Spielberg, clearly Spielberg, those were too easy. The Scorsese would just, there'd be just so many drugs and I'm not talking about Chris. I'm talking like Kimble would be strung out because his parents are as families not around. And he wants to get revenge. Yeah. Lot of drugs. Probably pretty good. What's your favorite picking nip from this movie? I have the fact that here's, here's a, Chris and Kimble should fight at the end. Instead of the gunshots and instead of the bloody killing, have a fight, the, you know, the fair it comes out and maybe Dominic gets away and then Chris is like, so I've always wanted to do this. Kimble, let's go. You and me and they have a big brawl in the shower room. Why don't that's like standard operating procedure for these movies. Before I know what that was. Get started. Yeah. They should fight. But maybe it just wouldn't be realistic for Arnold to lose or be in danger in a shower fight. Well, you do it. There's the classic hack for that. You let Arnold take a bullet first. And so we can. Great plan. Yeah. So it's a tough one because I'm trying to think like I was talking about Chuck Norris movies. Chuck Norris died a couple weeks ago. Never, never got as just you and rewatchables. I know. I don't know what the right movie he doesn't. The most rewatchable movie for me that he made was Silent Rage. But I think. I love Silent Rage. Oh, you like Silent Rage? It's not a big list. People that like it. You know who turned me on to Silent Rage and I'm making this up. Aaron Rodgers interviewed him years ago and he made a joke about Silent Rage. It was a logical reference. And I didn't know it very well. Went and watched it. Hilarious movie. Great villain. And I became a fan since then. That was like five or six years ago. He loves it. But Delta forces by the one, right? Well, Chuck, so I think I had my favorites are missing an action to code of silence, the Chicago movie he made, which is like a really good Chicago movie and every Chicago actor is in it. Like all of them, every 80s Chicago actor, I don't know if you've seen it. I haven't. I don't know that movie. You're Chicago guy. I know. You got to choose that one up. I demand that you watch that. It's a Pluto to be special. A lot. A lot more for Quaid, Mission X, Mission X or two in Silent Rage. And three of those movies, Chuck was at least Chuck Connect, God bless Chuck, I enjoyed Chuck, I've seen all those movies. He couldn't act. Not at all.
but he knew there had to be a showdown scene at the end. - Yeah. - And missing an action too, which is not really not a good movie, but it's better than Mission Action One. It all leads to this evil, sadistic, Vietnam guy who's just torturing all the POWs. It's just the worst. You just want Chuck to kick his ass, all movie. And then finally they end up in this cabin, like, on stilts, it's like the second floor, they climb up and they're in there. And it's just like, all right, it's fucking Haggar Herndt's time. Let's go. - Here we go, ring the bell. - And they fight in this thing and it's incredible. - Yeah. - So you're saying Schwarzenegger versus Chris. - Yeah. - Like let's go Chuck Norris style. Let's really like go three, four minutes here. They probably didn't want to do that in a kid's movie, be my guess. - Well, and the alternative was the bloody shootout. I just, I always like the main event. We've sat here for two hours and I let's see these guys fight. There's potential of them crashing into the shower and the pipe breaks and there's water. It could've been really cinematic. I like it. - I had a couple of nits, including to pick, including. Why did we have to do this undercover sting operation in Astoria? Like why not just have the FBI tail, Chris? - Yeah. - I assume John Kimble's like reasonably valuable as a police officer. He's got a cool beard and sunglasses. He's foiling drug operations and they're like, we think he might end up going to Astoria, we need two cops to go undercover. Don't really tell anyone what we're up to and this is the plot of the movie, I guess. I still don't understand it. I don't know why they had to go. - Why don't also, if you did have to go, maybe just take 48 hours and let Phoebe like clear up the stomach flu and then she goes in as the teacher. You have, Chris is incarcerated. There's not that much of a rough, but she gets this like, oh my stomach and so he goes in, just take it easy. - Take some metamusel and then go teach the school. - Wait till Wednesday. Well, I had her too. What kind of food poisoning did she do? Was this the first COVID case? This was 30 years before COVID? - It was COVID-4. - Yeah, it was a prototype of the original COVID. She's out for a week and a half. This was like fantasy and Sundance in 2020. I don't understand why they get two hotel rooms. I don't understand what happened to Arnold's old family. It's so strange. They try to give him something to work with. This like the subtext about why he's hurting and why he's gravitating towards Dominic. And he's like, yeah, they just moved on. I never see him. Why don't you have joint custody of him? What are you doing? I think the real answer is that should be that Chris did something to mess up Arnold's family. And that's why he's obsessed with Chris like they do in face-off. - That makes way too much sense. Or my wife thought she was getting in work fees and couldn't get one and then she took the kids back to Austria, like at least come up with some reason that sound like, yeah, I have a kid. I don't know where. - No idea, talk to him. - How about a long distance call? Could we do that for like a minute? - It kind of makes Kimball look like kind of a piece of shit. Like why are you so apathetic about your son? Why are you so obsessed with Dominic? You have your own kid. What is this? - Here's my big one. - Yeah. - It's my nitpick. It's also the Vincent Chesa word for her. We share the character. It was actually good at their job. - Right. - The ending, Arnold, fire drill, loses Dominic immediately. You have one job. Just keep Dominic there. You have one job. Just grab him by the back. He's walking with you, where you go? He goes, loses him in 10 seconds. Doesn't shoot the bad guy, blows that one. Get shot by two different characters. (laughing) Get shot by the entire Chris family and then has to be saved by his partner who miraculously wakes up. Just an abomination of a job. - Terrible. His partner with a baseball bat who's not even armed. When that firelin went off, dude, just grab Dominic. The other kids from the purpose of this mission could die in the fire. Get Dominic out of here. And it Dominic, Dominic, it just grabs him. Like there's nothing pretty bad. - They know the guys out that the witness is dead. Like they're waiting for something. - Sequel prequel, prestige, TV, all black cast are untouchable. I can't say I wouldn't watch the first episode of a prestige remake. - A remake? - Yeah, well, I'd probably test drive it. - You go Alan Richardson, who's richer as John Kimball in the Swarton Maker role. And then as Chris, you have some badass actor at Paul Mescal or Barry Keogan or one of those like, sweet actors. Like, it could work. - I'm gonna zag on you. - What are you going? - I offer you a little Travis Kelsey. - Good, we need some more of this. The Kelsey's, we gotta get that name out there. - I mean, Jason can play Chris. - They're Travis. - They're Travis. - They're trying to kill each other. - I certainly have an athlete. Like I offer you Marshawn Lynch. - You're always selling Marshawn. I'm good with Marshawn. He lives on planet Marshawn. We try to sell Marshawn. - I think you're for it. - The fireball role in Running Man. - Yeah. - Okay. - Let's try and think of something athlete. - And Rodgers as Chris. - No, he hasn't decided he's playing for the Steelers yet. We don't know what his future is. - Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Flores, Ryan Ruco, Gus Johnson, Zayn Low, or somebody else? - I don't know if you saw this, but at the very end when they're having the face off, there's a quick shot in the locker room and there's an announcer's table. And it says, and Gus is there and he's got an announcement. He's got his microphone and he just lets it rip. And it sounds like this. Dominic Chris, young fella, ha, ha, ha. His old man's got a gun to his head in the shower room. Ferret comes out of the sweater. (screams) Ignis De Kimbo blows away, Chris. - I love you, Gus. - I love you brother. - That always kills you every time we do that. It kills your throat. - Every time it takes you for a leg. - It takes you once off my life, like two weeks. - Great to have Gus back. - Just wanna ask her who gets it? - I don't know, the score. - I think the hair and makeup people who do Kimbo's beard and Chris's ponytail. - That's great. - That's the people. - Probably an answer for questions. - I got a great one. - Let's hear it. - Okay, this is, this is, you're gonna love this. So Moriarty comes in and she's talking about her son who she's worried is playing with dolls. - Yeah. - The child's name bill is Sylvester. This is in the middle of the Stallone Swartzenegger feud when they're going at each other and taking shots. - Wow. - Do you not think that Arnold's somewhere in a trailer is like, the one who plays with dolls, let's call him Sylvester. (laughs) Is that not a veiled shot? He's a girly man, Sylvester. I don't think that's a coincidence. - That's amazing. I mean, come on. Sylvester, that's not a normal name. - I think you're right. I want to know Dominic, whether that was aimed at anybody too. - Is that a weird name? - Slime. - Slime is the boy's son, his name's Slime. That's too much, Arnold. It's Sylvester. - I have, was Pamela Reed, the poor man's, Lori Metcalf or vice versa? - Both, both are great. - You could have switched him and every role in the 90s. And I think Lori Metcalfeasley just could have been the partner in this. - She's excellent. - I think Lori Metcalf's an internal affairs, the same year that Pamela Reed's in this movie. You could just switch them. - Yeah, but both just like cool, good hangs. You can have a beer with like sexy in their own way. Good actors. - I like that. - I think I play cops in good shot. - Yes. - The old kindergarten teacher who, John Kimmel takes a joke about it. What happened to her? She had tenure. Where'd she go? - Gone for four weeks. They just tell her to take a hike. Comes back. Everything's fine. We fixed the school library. Maybe everybody don't need some books. She finally has her job back. She finally has the kids. She's not as cool as John Kimmel. She doesn't have a favorite. She didn't foil a crime. Probably trying to work her way back. You know, little Ray Hanley on the giant style. How do you call a legend? - Of course. - Just this is getting good. Here comes John Kimmel shows up again with the cane. And kids go nuts. That's it. She's just working at the hardware store the next day. It's done. - Teaching no more teaching for you. - And donks honor it with Arnold repurposing his own line by saying, "I'm back." - Yeah. - And everyone goes crazy. - Fuck you, lady. - Yeah. - The teacher's like, "I'm trying to teach him simple two plus three math. Get out of your Kimmel. You're not even a real teacher." That is strange. - Just some lady who lived in a story. Probably put three kids through the school system. Kept their kindergarten job. She'd been there 28 years. Arnold just overnight takes it. - The loving teacher, her life goal to educate young people and Arnold with his lats and traps comes in. They like him better because he has a stupid ferret. - Last one for me. Is this a better movie if Arnold dies? He gets shot by the lady. He's just, he's just dead. He doesn't make it. And we have like an, we almost go, it's like hardball when, when Jeep Aby dies. Where it's just, it's a fucking swerve. We don't know. Oh my God, Jeep Aby's dead. They just killed John Kimmel. It's a wrap. He's done. - So play this out. Do we get, we get a, a funeral scene in the children's role? - We get the most emotional funeral scene. Just here's everywhere. This movie, this is now like the saddest movie of the 1990s. John Kimmel, his legacy lives on. We're gonna name the John Kimmel library after the burn books. There's the statues.
a bunch of books and John Campbell's honor, the bathroom, there's some sort of statue of him. >> Sure. >> Like, yeah. Is it a bad movie? >> Dominic takes care of the ferret. Don't worry about it. We'll do that. >> Yeah. >> There's a scene like it in the end when Tony Stark dies and all the Avengers show up in their suits and it's very somber and then they just roll credits and that's it. I don't know how that would test, especially with the sobbing kids at the funeral. >> Yeah. >> But I like where you're going. It's a huge act and it's, we'd get the boys to men. >> Yeah, we get the end of the road, it's right around the save time. >> Just tears. >> Chris lives, too. And he gets away with Dominic and that's what's do that and he raises him with his mother. >> Campbell's dead, Pamela Reed stays to take over the class and her fiance becomes like the Astoria lead chef and they kind of carry his legacy. I don't know. His mom hangs herself like that, we can do that, that might work. >> Secret handshake club memorabilia for the thing you would want from this movie. For me, it's something Astoria elementary, hat, t-shirt, something from that school. But I couldn't really think of one. What'd you have? >> I just want a full head to toe outfit of Chris and I want to go to a Halloween. >> Halloween. >> And I imagine the one person who would get, are you fucking Chris? And I'd be like, yeah, Chris, look at the ponytail, they would be like, that is, can I take a picture with you? That is the coolest thing, you're Chris, but yeah, I'm Chris, anybody can take a picture. I'm Chris, that's what I want, the outfit. >> So you'd need like the big David Bern suit, a ponytail wig and a bad tan, and you're ready to look. >> It looks like the night at the Roxbury guys, if they had like tall reviewers ponytail, that's my look. >> Best double feature choice. >> I have total recall. Let's just show peak of the power as long as Andy Arnold, what do you got? >> Your answer is better. I had home alone. They were running the world. There was all about kids then, it's Arnold, it's everybody. But total recall, this is the same actor screaming about, they give these people air. >> Yeah. >> And then he's dating in the same year, that's a great choice. >> He also makes the same face in each movie when it is the eye bulging. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> You think this is the real quid? It is. >> That's great. >> Coach Finstack, Mr. Miyagi word for best worse life lesson, kindergarten teacher still matter. >> Look at you. >> Yeah. >> Look at all Simbo getting soft. >> Yeah, it's thoughtful. >> Look at you. >> It's still matter. >> I had a huge difference in lives. >> They do. I had, you're married, you're allowed to dress like slabs. I like that their mom say that because it's definitely true. And the at leisure revolution has enabled all of us married people to just dress like pigs half the time. >> Yeah. And that's probably one of the only benefits from COVID. It's like, you know what? >> Yeah. >> Pretty awesome. >> These pants feel great. I'm not going to apologize. I'd go out public with them. >> It's $200 Lulu Lemons. Awesome. >> Yeah. >> I'll swear them all day. >> Who won the movie Arnold Schwarzenegger? >> Arnold Schwarzenegger. Twice in one year, dude. >> Craig's down here, but we are splicing a special part of the pod. He's just going to pop in with a little 90 second. Here's my review of Kindergarten Cop throwing it to him right now. >> Okay. Kindergarten Cop. I watched with my wife, Liz. I would say easy watch. Liz and I shared a lot of eye rolls with one another after Arnold's cheesy lines. But by the end of the movie, you're kind of sold on the whole thing and you kind of come away feeling good. Arnold man is just, he's, it's like watching Arnold in this is like watching like Bill Land beer in the 90s or Roy Hibbert in the early 2010s, where it's just like perfect for the era. No chance this works now at all. 90s movies just have a charming obliviousness to them and that's why they work. And that's why Arnold works in this. I don't, you could, I guess it's the rock today or something like that or like Ryan Reynolds, but there is, there is an aspect of this where Arnold is earnestly trying. And I don't know when his career pivoted from people realizing that it's just funny to watch him say funny lines and maybe it was this one, but I, that obliviousness of the 90s is why those movies are so great and we're too self-aware now for I think that to work again. I appreciate that they spent all the money on casting Arnold and didn't have much else, which brings me to Richard Tyson, who, my first question was who the hell is this man and what, what is going on, what's going on here? An unexplored relationship with his mother in this film that we could probably dig into a little bit more. I think, I think he's eligible to replace Judd Elson for the actor that's just doing his in his own movie award. I will have to give it to the hair and makeup department though because the greasy ponytail was just an absolute perfect choice. They knocked it out of the park. His look, I have no notes, 10 out of 10 on the look. So great job by everybody there. My favorite line from this movie is probably when Arnold meets Pam Reid and they get partnered together and there's just one line of exposition where she goes, so where you're from and he goes Austria and there's just no follow up and they keep moving after that. So I really, I really enjoyed that. I still don't really understand why Richard Tyson needed his son so badly and was willing to like blow up a school for it, but I thought this movie's about, it's about watching Arnold say tumor with a bunch of kindergartners and in that respect, it succeeds. So I'm sure you guys are going to make fun of me coming back here and you're going to pretend that I said something insane. But sure, I'm in. Thanks Craig. That was Craig. Craig. Well, fire. Can't believe you hated the movie that much. Can you believe you mentioned the runtime? I mean, incredible stuff. Great job Craig. Unbelievable. All right. Kindergarten cop. That's fun. I don't know what's next for us. We're a little light on Van Dam. I feel like we addressed Arnold. Yeah. There's a cigar movie we haven't done yet that you don't like. There's one that we haven't done that we both like though and it's stars Wesley Snipes and Sandra Bullock that's not done. So there's there's some meat on that bone. The Van Dam thing is going to be tough. We'd have to go into like lion heart and blood or kickbox or territory. I might be tough. But I'm open for business anytime you are, dude. The cigar, the undeadly ground, I've been circling a little bit. I know. I don't know from a comedy standpoint. I really, I really, I'm like at that. And I'm looking at Mark for death when he fights the Jamaican voodoo gangs and screw face. That's it. That's like as well. There's a lot of apples to be picked on the tree before we get to screw face. There's also like some some mid 90s Nick Cage that we could run back. Yeah. That's point break, which we did the first year of the show. I've been pushing for re point. Re point is there. It's an unrecognizable podcast to compare to what it is now. It's just very, very old. A lot of football stuff. Everything else. All right. Kyle Brant. Any plugs you want to do before we head out of here? No. Nah, just listen to re watchful's podcast. Watch good morning football. And I get it all the time, Bill. People come up. Kyle, Kyle, what's up man? Hey, how you doing? Love you and re watchables. I love Kyle. I know you don't. That's what you love. It's so fun, man. Always. All right. Thank you. Great to see you. Thanks to Eduardo and Gajáo as well. We will see you next week. Ironically, you're going to miss it. I think Ghostbusters is happening next week. Oh, it's great. I'll be there listening. I can't wait. Yeah. I think it's time. We're due. We're headed toward Netflix as a joke month. And we wanted to bang out like some sort of fun. I think I'm not positive, but I think it's happening. Okay. You got the live ready? Like you got the dream team? You can be studying it, watching it. Yeah, I think we have the right cast of people. I can't wait. I'll be there as I always am. Kyle Brank, great to see you too.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast highlights Arnold Schwarzenegger’s 1990 film *Kindergarten Cop* as a cult classic, praising its bold, unfiltered 1990s sensibility and its unique blend of action, comedy, and controversial content.
The film is celebrated for its over-the-top scenes, including child abuse themes, violent school shootings, and explicit sexual references, which reflect the cultural norms of the early 1990s but are now seen as outdated and problematic.
Arnold’s performance is considered one of his most quotable and emotionally layered, with lines like “It’s not a tumor” becoming iconic, and the film showcasing his versatility across genres—buddy cop, romance, action, and comedy—while carrying the most dialogue of his career.
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The podcast explores Arnold Schwarzenegger’s 1990 movie *Kindergarten Cop* as a landmark film of the early 1990s, reflecting the era’s bold, unfiltered approach to storytelling. Despite its controversial content—such as graphic violence, child abuse themes, and explicit scenes involving sexual misconduct—it is celebrated for its absurdity, humor, and cultural significance. The film stands out for Arnold’s extensive dialogue and natural performances, particularly in moments where he interacts with young children, creating a mix of comedy, vulnerability, and absurdity.
The show emphasizes how the movie’s outrageous elements, like a school fire plot and a pet ferret, were accepted at the time but now appear out of touch with modern standards. It also highlights the film’s enduring appeal among die-hard Arnold fans, noting that lines like “It’s not a tumor” have become iconic cultural references. The discussion contrasts the film’s 1990s grit with today’s more cautious, sanitized cinema, framing it as a darkly humorous relic of a bygone era.
The podcast also touches on the film’s place in Arnold’s career, calling it a pivotal moment of creative freedom and a testament to his ability to blend physical comedy with action. While acknowledging the problematic content, the hosts argue that the film’s chaotic energy and nostalgic charm make it a must-watch for fans of classic cinema. The review ultimately positions *Kindergarten Cop* as both a bizarre time capsule and a bold, if flawed, achievement in 1990s pop culture.
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The line 'It's not a tumor' from 'Kindergarten Cop' has become one of Arnold's most iconic catchphrases. It's widely regarded as his second most famous line, second only to 'Get to the chopper' from 'Predator.' The line is so iconic that it's instantly associated with Arnold and is often used as a joke or meme, especially in pop culture references.
The film is considered a cult classic because of its bold, unfiltered humor and its portrayal of 1990s-era sensibilities. It blends absurdity, child abuse themes, and action in a way that feels both ridiculous and deeply nostalgic, resonating with fans who grew up with it as a product of its time.
The film reflects a different cultural attitude toward children and violence in the 1990s. Children were shown engaging in rough, sometimes inappropriate behavior, and the movie included elements like executions, drug use, and child abuse—all of which were common in 'kids' movies' of the time but are now considered extreme or inappropriate.
In this film, Arnold delivers one of his most dialogue-heavy performances, showcasing a range of genres including action, comedy, and romance. His lines are quotable, energetic, and often delivered with a distinct mix of humor and vulnerability, making it one of his most beloved and recognizable roles.
The film reflects the 1990s cultural landscape, where topics like child abuse and divorce were being increasingly discussed in media, often through dramatic or exaggerated lenses. The film’s treatment of these issues was typical of the era, which viewed them as serious but not always handled with modern sensitivity.
Audiences in 1990 found the film exciting and outrageous due to its mix of action, absurdity, and sheer unpredictability. Its enduring popularity stems from its unique blend of nostalgia, humor, and the sheer absurdity of its plot, making it a fun and timeless watch for fans of retro cinema.
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