Kim Chi's Love Affair with Public Libraries with Trixie and Katya

(upbeat music) - Oh my gosh, you guys, we have brand new microphones. Send to us from Sinhizer, sinhizer, bebebebebeel. Sinhizer, and they love the gay. Sinhizer is actually German. It's German for ran through, and-- - And that's part, wait, wait, wait, does this work? Can be a clown now. - Oh, obviously we have Kim, Chi, in the house. She is a food, a fishy and auto and critic. And now, a food book writer. - Hello. - Wow, congratulations. - Yes, welcome to the pod. - Newly a double time author, Kim Chi. - Wait, we gotta talk about this. - We gotta talk about this. So Kim, not only likes to one up every dry queen and writing a book, but she's gonna say, I'm gonna put out two at once. - You know, the two book deals happen in two very separate times, but you know, one thing after another and-- - Are they at odds with each other, different sections of the bookstore? - I actually don't know. All the bookstores I've been in, they've been next to each other, which is cool, but it just happened to come out in the same month. - What's the other one? - The other one is a young adult novel called Donatella Machin, The Library Avengers. - Oh, what? - There's a book about saving public libraries. The last place, the FBI can't go. - Yeah, exactly. - There's-- - Wow. - And-- - Oh yeah, so the main villain, his name is Blop the Draxing. - What is that called, a macro aggression? Would you call that a direct attack? - And you know what the library's called? - What? - They're trying to say, it's called Furcus Library. - Oh my God. - No, it's not. - Yes it is. (laughing) - Oh my God. And that is in commemoration of that, I'm the first person my family who can read. - Oh my God, yeah. - Thank you. - Probably the last. - How long did it take you to, what was the process like writing the book? - Oh. - Did you write it? Did you go as write it? That's what we get asked all the time. - Well, we corroded with Stefan Fan, who is an amazing writer. I mean, listen, English is my second language here. I'm trying my best, so. - But it's part graphic novel, part-- - Oh, here's novels. - Oh, I love graphic novels. - And I think, hard-core nudity? - No, there's no nudity, you know. - It's a young adult. (laughing) - No, there you go. - But you know, I think there's like a lot of themes that will resonate with a lot of people, you know, like growing up as a immigrant, you guys wouldn't know. Growing up queer, you guys wouldn't know. (laughing) - You guys wouldn't know. (laughing) - Growing up bald, you guys wouldn't know. - You know, saving public libraries, you guys might know. - Right. I love public libraries unironically. - Do you? - Yes. - No, they're great. It's a great resource. - I mean, they're the pillars of our community. - I'm old enough to remember going to there when I wanted to learn something. - Do you know what I want to do? This happens in movies sometimes. If you're trying to, if I was trying to get like dirt on her, I grew a library with that thing, you turn the knob, and the newspaper flips. - Microfee, should I let it call? - Yes. - Any good, like, any good detective. - Rimsuit. - Yeah. - Any gum shoe. - If you want to know about the fire in '87 or whatever, the blizzard's 28, you go to the, you know, the dark room, you flip the microfish, it's fierce. - I'd also go to the library and check out ton of music CDs. And do you remember when you, like, burn music into, like, your iTunes? - Mm-hmm. - Um, and I just burned, like, ton of songs. That's how I got me music, 'cause I couldn't afford to buy CDs. My library had a program where if you're at five books, you get like a voucher for a bagel. So I read so many books that's possible just to feed myself. - Oh my God. Reading to eat, that's fierce. - The anytime fitness you start. - Knowledge is food. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, I'm nourishing myself, you know. - Planet fitness has free tootsie rolls. - You go to planet fitness? - Yeah, they have purple and brown tootsie rolls. Well, I guess brown is chocolate. They have purple. - Grape and chocolate tootsie rolls. And anytime fitness sometimes on Fridays has free pizza. - I would think you're, like, too famous for planet fitness. - I was gonna say-- - I was gonna say-- - I'm gonna say-- - I'm gonna say-- - I'm gonna say-- - I do, but I keep going. But they have charmed on the TV. - Okay. - I don't know. I didn't know they had TV at planet fitness. - You can bring your own TV. - Well, no, they have, they have all the TVs and they have the same, let's say, six channels and it repeats, so it's like, one, two-- - And then all of the machines have, and they have subtitles on so you can watch charmed. - That's really amazing. - Amazing, I do love charmed. - And we lost Julie McMahon this year. I guess I'm just trying to-- - Why? - Isn't that his name, Julie and McMahon? - Who's a Nick McMahon? - Yeah, he died this year, didn't he? - Cole, Cole-- - Cole. - Cole. - I know him as Dr. whatever from Nip Tuck. - Well, yeah, that's also him. He died last year, I believe. - Both of them. - I had no idea. - Oh, he died in July this year? - Of what? Of what? Of death. - He died to death? - Not to get randomly dark, but whenever I hear and use about celebrities passing, I feel a little envious. You don't have to deal with this shithole that we live in. - Yeah, twisted middle car crash. - Especially if it feels like a painless death, you know what I'm talking about, a little jealous. - Some days I'm like, oh my god, I feel a tightness in my heart. I cough today, well, cancer, right? And then some days I'm like, what'd it be nice, you know? Sometimes it's just a butt. We had a wonderful, you know, Andrew Cuomo lost, which gives me hope for one more day. - Oh, baby. - But also like part of me like wake up every morning and I'm like, I hope nothing happens until we're on like, in the greatest city in the world. - Especially like considering like what happened with the lawmakers like recently, you know, like. - Oh yeah. - I like, I worry about like all the, you know, people in politics that's trying to do the right thing, you know, because it's for your soul, you know, we live in. - Oh yeah. - And everything twisted up. Creeps. - Creeps. - She is. - Demented. - Demented. - 150 Instagram stories in like two hours. - I just think that's a lot. - Now I don't feel like bad for making fun of her scarf collection during. - Bill and Grace. - No, no, that one show. That singing show. Oh my god, why can't I remember to name it? - Glee. - Smash, yeah. Because first season she had like a different scarf on every time she came on. - Yeah. - And it was the dumbest thing ever. - Wow, I love your scarves, Deborah. - Yeah, I mean, I- - She's ridiculous. - She's forever ruined because of her. - No, I wasn't that good in the first season. - I said you were right, you're right. - Come on, you know, yeah. - It's like a low-hanging fruit. - The only person who's allowed to post that many stories to me is Vanity. - Yeah. - When Vanity. - They're not about politics. - When you see Vanity stories and the slice is as thin as a Listerian Strait. - You get on the treadmill. - I'm sad. - Speaking of Vanity. - So you know, there was like a video clip of you imitating like, the real me comes out tonight. Fabulous. - Yeah. - There was one day, I literally just had that on repeat. And I don't know, it was like ASMR. To me, I could not stop watching it. It was just like on repeat. I was just like, refresh, refresh. I got to watch it again. - It's an earworm. - It's Friday. - And now the real me comes alive. (laughing) I lost a link to that clip and I was like, legit upset that I couldn't watch it anymore. - It's so good. - So could you do it again for this podcast so I can watch this over again? - Of course. - Just the way you think it. - Yes. - Well, she kind of has a fabulous Friday. - But did a whole thing, like she bars. - She kind of like, well, it's Friday. The weekend, the real me comes alive. - I really shouldn't have a drink, but. - I really shouldn't have a drink, but you know, it is Friday, so I worked till I had. - And then this is like also like a really random part of the internet that no one ever knows what I'm like referencing, but in her, she bars Tuesday video, you commented, bring back welfare Wednesdays, you coward. - Wait, what would you do? - Well, originally it was called welfare Wednesdays. - Yeah. - Well, I believe welfare has a different meaning in Australia. It might mean fairing well. - Okay. - But people are trying to cancel her for you know, like making fun of poverty or something. - Yeah, yeah. - You should have to change the cheapest Tuesday. - Yeah. - If you commented, you bring back welfare Wednesdays, you coward. - And I messed with there. And I quote that on a regular basis and no one ever knows like what I'm saying. And I feel like crazy for even have to explain this whole thing. And then after I explain it, people look at me like I, like I'm on the spectrum, you know. - No, no, no, I do, if you're coming here to talk about personal rattles that you speak in your own, this is the safe space. Me and my house either saying, okay, James from Wendy Williams or Jane from the comeback. James or Jane at any given moment. Jane absolutely not cut that, you know. That clip in the comeback where they had the cameras in there and their housekeepers cleaning and they zoom in and they pull a porn VHS out of marks her husband's side table drawer and the camera's zooming in on it and Valerie walks in and sees them zooming in. It pretends like she doesn't see it. And then she picks it up and she's like, okay, we're human. And she's like, you know, and she's like, Mark only has one of these, okay. And he's like, she's like trying, it's like back door Lesbian's nine or something. It's something so crazy. - I have never seen a comeback. Should I start watching the comeback? - Oh, it's a too late. - Did I have to be there? - It's timeless. - It's absolutely timeless. (upbeat music) - We gotta get you a backup kimchi. - You know, I'm sure there are. - Joelle like this. - Oh, shut up. - Oh my God, she did Brandon's pretty slasian royal. He said she was really fun. - Oh my God, amazing. - Yeah. - Joelle, that girl from Drag Race, who was like, I feel like L.A. just expects me to always give Lamar. - Remember her? - Wasn't that what she said, Kim? - No, she's like, I am like known for my looks. I'm Dyslasian Diva of L.A. - Dyslasian. - Yeah. - But I don't think she was. - An asian slays. [BLANK_AUDIO] Is it that the slasian is an Asian who slays? I think so. Yeah, you know, I can't speak It's an Asian it's an Asian who kills people But feed the vampires like it's a term that I've never encountered until that moment You know, so I can't really speak to that intimate knowledge I think they'll carry away with these these contractions or whatever Yeah, right. It's too much. It's too much, but anyways back to my books Yeah, so if you guys want to know let's talk about it because this is a book that only somebody who's actually traveled the whole World could write can you tell us about it? Yes, yeah, I got it. That's the T.S. recipes. No Kimchi eats the world T.S. recipes fit for a dry queen So this book is a love letter to all my favorite places that I've been to and all the favorite things I've eaten The whole book was conceived could you tell that I've been like a press circuit and seeing the same thing? Well, I want to know though. Yeah, so the book got started during pandemic when I couldn't travel anymore and eat all these delicious things, you know like the fattest that I am. So then I started making like all these global cuisine in my own American kitchen Mm-hmm. And that's how the idea for the book was conceived. So every recipe comes with a beautiful picture that is like little off-beaten quirky and there's like a little drag twist to it and There's a story and why that recipe is there cheesy breadball found fun doing Switzerland. Yes, that's incredible If you had to eat only one cuisine for the rest of your life, which would it be? Oh, it'll definitely be something Asian I mean Korean food is like my soul food, but if it wasn't Korean food I could eat probably Vietnamese or Thai food every day. Mm-hmm. Thai food really is lit Yeah, I was so many good vegetarian options because if you don't eat fish sometimes even if it's not a fish dish They'll have like oyster sauce or something and it can be really overpowering But LA you can find like a lot of non fish off even what like pick your friends or people die to their expression usually like Thai food, you know, have you ever loved to eat Thai? Oh my love to eat is so good. It's so good Oh, there's like my regular go - and the name tells you Yeah, do you love to eat and I believe the owners are like to like lesbian? So which you're supporting the queer beauty by supporting love to eat what a gorgeous photograph When I was depressed I got really into fall. Oh, thoughts really gone. Oh my god And I would order from these places and I'm like The soup would arrive so hot that I'm like what temperature was it when they poured it in this tub at the restaurant if it's showing up at my house Basically boy because they put like the beef in their raw and then the hot broth cooks the beef So then by the time like it reaches the table. It's like perfectly tender Yeah, vegetables and you cook the vegetables and it cooks it nicely and then after you like sauce it and all that It's like the perfect temperature for you to consume Well the first time I got it I didn't realize how much of the soup came not in the fluid so I was like I thought it was too much woke or something. I was like what's wrong? You know a little bit like how they want you to tip at the register I was like now I got to cook the vegetables, but oh, it's so fresh about the register. This is so random, but Can I say something? No, no, not on the pod This isn't a pod. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. I am if someone could like in light me on this and I'm genuinely curious So you know, I'm a good tipper. I always tip 20% I tip like coffee con even counter service everything. Yeah Why is that when I go to a concert and I buy like a $70 merch t-shirt and then I go to pay There's a tip option and I'm expected to tip like 20 30 40% on a concert merch My favorite is when the tip options are set at like 30 35 40 and you have to you have to key in a 15% while they watch It was like no tip. You have to say fuck you as whole right press no tip well girl But like concert merch why and then have the time they're not even nice and all they did was just grab me a t-shirt or a hat Right and why am I doing you like they would be getting Pay they do get paid And they don't really have a relate that person that merchandising person doesn't necessarily have a relationship to the sales of the merchandise No, right? I mean, I think they're probably allowed to keep that part. Yeah, and the I mean the artist gets a cut The venue gets cut the manager the producing touring agency a lot of time not to mention the Artist that the artist hired to make the graphic. Sure. Maybe you get to cut some of them do some of them sound a flat rate I mean because everyone should get paid you know, but I want to get paid But why am I tipping a Concert concert merch salesman when I think you're not even dead night I think American tipping culture is based on like lack of a livable wage. Yeah, which is a bummer At least it's official merch, which I just got I just got in a fight with a person at the B-52. Well, I didn't get a fight. I screamed I don't want to talk I'll talk about it. Oh, no, no, no, I was at the B52s and I was a little I had had two bottles of wine I was feeling good and I watched D. Bo and they were amazing and I was just blown away and you know for me It's around about six year olds from the 80s watching these bands. I'm in heaven, right? I'm feeling good Yeah, my arthritis is feeling good because I'm browned out. You know, I'm just feeling really good and I'm walking out of the menu And I see the the knockoff merchandise Yes, and I don't think people understand that you're not just stealing from the on sayer Whoever the person who drew Beyonce shirt Like you're stealing from them. Do you not feel this way? Okay, so bootleg merch is good. Okay, so I Have a very strong feelings about the bootleg merch. What is they do too? Okay, so For example, like a lot of K-pop bands They have merch, right? Right, but the merch the design is extremely underwhelming Sometimes it will just like have their logo on it and no picture or anything because people fans will buy them regardless so they don't have to try to like make a designs But then you go into the parking lot and you see some like the most like well-designed like creative design with all the members faces on it Oh, it's like super colorful like impactful and like that is actually a merch that I want to spend money on I mean granted like a lot of artists has merch that is actually really good. You know like Beyonce kills it And not to mention you has good botch Yeah, sometimes the bootleg merch is better than the actual merch That's why they need to have little agents and managers go in the parking lot and poach those artists Well, this is a thing the word bootleg to me is okay Let's say this was the exact Beyonce graphic from the concert this bootleg is that artist is printing that same graphic and trying to pretend That's just an official Beyonce shirt Not the one type team to me if it's somebody scalping, but they're selling an original design. That's not as jailable like this Well, this is a restaurant and a person Right, this is a great example of somebody if they were selling this in the parking lot I almost feel like they should be go for it. Yeah, cuz it's two and I'm not I'm not saying you should buy bootleg merch I'm just saying if if I see like a bootleg artist, you know or bootleg salesman like trying harder than the actual artists And does it I'm only speaking specifically for a kpop mm-hmm not like okay, but they're making an original design that the artist doesn't sell Yeah, that's the difference I'm talking about straight-up copies of the official a Xerox of a shirt than the on a shitty. Yeah, and which man Yeah, but then also like some artists are like basically billionaires, you know, and they're also making a million dollars a night in merch Yeah, so I'm like do I want to help this hurt, you know bootleg salesmen who probably these money for their family or do I want to support a billionaire? I don't know they're morally conflicted in both ways. I feel like a lot of times Let's say our ball in the beautiful graphic we don't even have all the rights to that image So you're stealing so I can steal that but you're stealing from the photographer So like the people used to come up and want us to sign 8x10 oh, that's a whole another thing And I'm like you got this printed at kinkos. You're also by signing this. I'm co-signing and you stealing this from the photographer I'm more offended that they don't know who we are. Oh That I'm a fat I'm more offended that they're not actually fans like once I actually learned that they're just like Arper junus or whatever they're scammers and like yeah Yeah, like I like I don't mind taking photos of it anyone but it wouldn't When people see like a lineup like you know people forming around you and then they want a photo just because they think you're someone famous You know that I'm like that's great That's why I feel about if I'm in drag walking to the car at the hotel like through the through the um lobby and you see like A group of people and they want a picture just because they sell a cross dresser I was at a taco tricksy fans. They're just like a drag queen. I'm like no I was at a taco truck is some girls asked for a picture and then the taco truck guy asked for a picture He didn't know who to know. I do. I was at a taco truck and drag no out of drag He's like are you famous? I was like not really is like can I see your Instagram? What and then and then he was like oh my god because I'm million followers or whatever and he's like he was freaked out But see at least if they're like a friend about it. I'm fine with it when they start playing this game like Do I know you from somewhere? Yeah, brown and I'm like like he drowned. Is that makes that makes it? Yeah It's like are you some of famous and I'm like Do you want to put so we can take a photo? You know, let's let's be let's cut the game, you know, yeah, no game Yeah, no, if you want a photo, I'll give you a photo though. No, Mike, but the trade does that too though the trade is like oh I They'll act like they don't know you and then they follow you on Instagram. Oh my god And as they're leaving, they're like by the way, huge fan. That's it. Yeah So they're all liars. They just be honest. They should be honest. Do what our fans do. Yeah, trippy. I hate you. Thank you Do our fans do open your shirt show the the breastplate size portrait of us tattooed the chest And then we are like you're you're fine. Yes, you're verified. You're in just to clarify. We appreciate all the love You know appreciate it comes our way, you know, but just be real with us, you know, be honest with me. Yes But this is the other worst best thing which is if you're on the plane and people are walking by getting on and they go big fan And you go thank you and maybe it happens a couple times. I don't I feel like being bald. You're just a beacon People's eyes see a white bald head and they're like what the fuck was that, you know for you maybe they can oh But then the person next to you goes - That's a straight guy. - Oh. - All right. Who are you? (laughing) - I hate that. I hate it. - I hate it. - I hate it so much. 'Cause then you have to explain why I'm saying it. - Or when they're like, are you some of famous? - Yeah. - And I'm like, am I supposed to, how am I supposed to say this question? - I say, I say no. - Yeah. - I'm Terry Fisher. - Yeah. - Like, what am I supposed to say? - I had canceled. I went on Jennie. We're, we're, Sally Jesse Raphael. - Well, there's this episode of "Wife's Swap" where I famously screams dark-sided gorgials. And people still know me from that. - We wait, wait, wait. But on the plane, I peed myself. - Wait a minute. - Okay, so. - I pivot my chair back to Kim's side and maybe you can have the floor. - So this happened in the same thing you were just talking about. The guy was like, one of the guys over to the, the side was like, I forget what he said, but it was like, 'cause the two people had gone past the aisle and we're like, big fan of whatever. And then the guy was like, "Well, are you like famous or whatever?" And I was like, oh, I'd get up halfway through the flight, go to the bathroom, and I pee. And I guess I just didn't really know that I wasn't done. And you know, like sometimes you have to obviously, this is so gross, I'm sorry, but you have to like shake or whatever. And just, but I did not the penis. - Yeah, as soon as I've done pee. - Sometimes you pee a little bit after, you try not to. I peed all the way down my leg and on the floor. - Right. - So I basically pissed in, I basically for, I mean, quantity wise, I pissed myself standing up in the airplane. And I had to, I had to get down, clean up the pee on the floor, and then I had to walk back to my seat, leg drenched with piss to the point where it smelled like piss. And I know for a fact that at least three or four people in the area knew what time it was. - Right. - They knew that I pissed myself. That I was covered in piss. - Did you have, what kind of pants did you have on? 'Cause if you have a cuffed jogger like this, but did you have a goucho, was it just free? - They were white jeans. (laughing) - Yellow night white jeans. - Time white jeans. - No, they were, they were shoe packets. - Blackhead pee, it's dark brown. (laughing) - You already, one, two, three. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - I'm gonna play. - Little red. - Little red. (laughing) - Because of a pee. - Little red. - What was the panic pee? - So, you know, like when you board business class, I know, I have sounds of a wu-j-j-j-j, you know that they give you like little like, or an apple juice, orange juice, whatever. For this flight head, beat puree. - What? - It was like a shot of beat puree. And like a shot of like green puree along with champagne. So I took like a shot of beat puree. And then later when I went to pee, and I forgot that I had drank this like beat puree, my pee was like bright red. So I thought I was peeing blood. And I didn't know what to do. And I'm like, am I dying? Like, what's gonna happen? So then in the stall, I start breathing like really heavily. And I was like, do I get a flight attendant? And then I remembered. I drank the beat puree and I'm like, oh, it's the beat. - Just beat puree, really turn your face. - You're supposed to be really concentrating. - It was like, it was really intense red. And I've never had that happen before. - Have you ever had a hematosparmia? - No, what is that? - It's been you jizz blood. - I said it happened to you? - Three times. - Let's take a break. And we're back. She has she jizz blood for a while. Around Halloween too, right? - Jizz blood, yeah. - I don't know. - It was around a Halloween. - Could have been. - Little surprise. - It doesn't hurt though, that's the gag. I've taken too much vitamins for a while and you start peeing all the time and peeing like more bright yellow. And I had like, oh my God, I die. Seeing your pee not pee colored is shocking. - It is, absolutely. - Especially your jizz. - And you're on the plane. Why did appendix explode on the plane once? And that was, I wasn't so much painted and it occurred to me. Oh, I could die, so luckily. Were you airlifted out of the plane? - No, I landed. - I guess you already lifted up in the air. I just parachute it out. I guess because we spent so much time on airplanes, at some point shit is gonna hit the fan. - I hope I die up there. I would love to die in an airplane. - I mean, every time there's a huge turbulence, I think to myself like, well this could be the end. And I have like my will typed out in my notes app, you know? - Yeah. - In case the plane crashes and they're gonna find to phone somehow and think, you know? - Right, they're gonna go and never been scared of incredible turbulence, I get excited. - Girl, have you ever, I was in P-Town last weekend in the first Vuggie Bear? Have y'all ever taken Cape Error? - Oh, the puddle jumper. - Girl, Cape Error. - That riggedy wheelbara with wings. - Cape scare, female pilots. - Oh! - No, we didn't, no. The way there had Mateo texted me at 8.30 in the morning and said he was taken, we were in Boston doing Halloween. Mateo was flying to P-Town, but he was taken the boat. He said the boat is so turbulent that people are laying off the side of the boat, puking. - The Vaspery? - The Vaspery. - I've never gotten sea sick before. - Me neither, the Vaspery's fears. So, but the waves are so bad, he said that that they were like jumping and people were puking. So I'm thinking, well, good thing we're flying. The waves are that bad from the wind. You're also gonna be in a plane. - The tiniest little riggedy Wright Brothers plane. - And you know, it's all one room, right? And one of the passengers takes next to the pilot. And so you're seated and I'm right behind. - Wait, excuse me? Do you not know this? - I've never taken that airline. - The first left chair, like the driver in a car, is the pilot and the other chair, the co-pilot chair. They sell that. Some guys, it's there. - I wanna do that. - Up in the air, the other day, I talked to the guy and said, "You're doing really good." - I'm gonna grab the wheel, yank it, and have it all going. - Please don't. - Should I do it? I'll ball in the beautiful to go. - It was such a bad turbulence. I was scared for the first time. I grabbed the seat in front of me and started laughing out of fear. (laughing) We're like, "Eh." (laughing) And we landed, thank God. - How would you die if you could choose today? - Oh, um, something quick and clean-less. - Samurai, sorry. - Maybe drowning in a bathtub? - That is not clean. - Kim, are you out of your mind? That's not quick and painless. - That is not quick and clean. - That's like a nightmare scenario. - That is, that is, that is the bad. - Like a high-end chair. - Being shot in the back of the hand. - No, no, no. - Samurai-sourge headshot. - It's like a sleeping unconscious, you know? - No. - What kind of drug could like make me like path out and like drown him? - Fentany, and never done it before, but, you know. - Prophecyl. - Prophecyl. - Yeah. - With a Michael Jackson drug, prophecyl. - Where do you even get prophecyl? - A doctor. - I have one day one. - So you don't call up a dealer and be like, can I get some prophecyl? - No, with extremepeptides.com, what do you mean? Extremepeptides.com. By the way, I asked my doctor about that. I said, "Well, I have colleagues and friends who get their peptides online." And she said, "The single most dangerous thing you could be doing right now with your health would be to get peptides anywhere but a doctor." - Oh, please. - Drugs. - I feel like a trained professional would say that, you know? - Also, you know what I'm trying to, they're trying to secure their bag. - But are you a bad man? - Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - You know what that, I don't doubt her at all. But you are a bad bitch. - You try to prove to people you're a bad bitch by ordering peptides online. - And what bitch? - Also, it did, it did occur to me recently that just because you have an MD doesn't mean you are good at all. Don't trust doctors, willy-nilly, or don't trust doctors just period. - You know what I mean? - Just get a second opinion is what they say, right? You get third for, I mean a lot of doctors are drunk, bad, stupid, negligent. I mean, you know what I mean? - Doogie, how's it worth a kid? - Thank you. - I, what's this, what are the worst things going on in drag right now? - First thing? - With the way people look. - The way people look. - I think let's start on the left. - That's a very sharp and broadened awareness of all the different types of drag and skill levels. What do you think's the worst thing going on? - You do have a very sharp, critical eye. - To be honest, I kind of like tuned out every other drag queen for like the past year. - What about wet? - Not because like of anything, but I'm just focusing on me right now. (laughing) - Honestly, besides having the guests that I see her, I'm, we're kind of the same. I mean, with four or against wet hair. - Wet hair? If they don't know how to style it properly, - I just style wet hair. - And if it dries up and it gets like frizzy, you know, I'm against that. - Do you think boobs will come back? - I have, boobs been out. - I'm so out of the loop what other drags do. - There has been an alarming derth of boobs in the drag scene, especially on a frame that could use a breast. - Well, you know, like in this economy, breast press they're probably expensive. - I'm not talking breast plates. I'm talking pantyhose from rolled up socks, birdseeds. - Mary, I have batting in a pantyhose. - Right. - With a tie for a nipple. - She does. - You felt them. You looked at them. (laughing) - I've done more than that. - You adopted that. (laughing) - I just, I do feel like, you only need the risk of sounding 100 years old. I do feel that kids today, like an A cup is a giant jug. - A huge digger, like a, like a cocktail stereoty. - Is like truly a band-aid. - Like must be imbutated because this is too much. - Back pain. - I'm worried that at some point, the new flat chest and will become carved out tissue. We will, the drawings will have concave surgery. Top surgery. - Maybe humps. - Maybe it'll just go to the back. - Boops to the back. - Yeah. - Finally. - No. - Maybe like legs, you know, are optional. - Oh. - Legs are, boops down the legs. - Yeah. - Maybe the boops are just gonna move. (laughing) (laughing) - Well, something I'm glad is gone was that, like pastel, like fetish gear, like PVC fetish gear. - Oh. - Do you remember that wave of that? - I remember, like, creeping. - Yeah, like made some like really cool, like, harnessy things, you know, like feminine colors and then everyone and their mom of course started. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm glad that's coming out. - But then you saw like every like terrible version of it. - Yeah. - I don't like when guys were harnesses. Are you a horse? If this isn't speak to me, I mean, I do hear gay guys say like, oh, harness was the first time I felt like a horse? - Oh. - So I guess if it's a means to feeling good. - I guess so, I don't wanna be a hater. - I guess it's like a culture that we are and like not directly in, you know? - Yeah. - So if you're like harness, you know, props to your mama, keeping the letter industry. - You know, Kim and I used to work almost exclusively at circuit parties. - Now with, okay, give us the, give us the do's and don'ts of circuit party fashion. - Honestly, there's no do's and don'ts. Everybody's in their speedos with-- - Oh, they're just naked. - Naked with designer sneakers. - It's very interesting. - It's literally naked with designer sneakers and I think-- - Are we talking with drugs? - Are we talking dick and balls and assholes? - No. - Like a thong with no back. So what is that, a cock sock? - And everyone's pupils are dilated and everybody's like really, really sweaty. - Well, that's no problem. - Should we show them how they dance? - It's all. - But do they have enough buffering? - Do they have enough PCs buffering? - They have enough room. - Yes, it is. - And like Kim and I were like, we just met and when we were into each other, we would dance like. - It's just us. - Everyone has thong glasses on indoors. - It's all their pupils are dilated. - Oh, because they're bloodshed. - Bloodshed. - Bloodshed. - Black eyes with red eyes. - Yeah. - Triagra. - They say hydrogen, they're like, where's the afters? - Kim and I would do these partings. - Oh, not the afters. - Where we would probably be in drag by nine or 10 and we'd be there till 4.30. - 4.30, yeah. - We got all on drugs. - I wasn't. - Okay. - I was a drug addict. - We were, we were at a show early. Like we would each do a number too. And then we would host like-- - In a costume? - Yeah, host in outfit. So we'd do two numbers and then change into a kind of rather elaborate for a local drug. - We don't multiple looks. - Multiple changes through the night. - No, people don't tip. - No. - No circuit queens didn't pay you no mind, didn't they? - Honestly, genuinely, that they were not there for us. You know? - But me and our young minds, I really thought like, well obviously-- - We're like local celebrities, you know? - I really felt maybe more famous than than I do now. I was like-- - Honestly, yeah. Well, because you know, like they, we don't just like elaborate photoshoots, you know, that would like to promote the party, then everyone would share it, and everyone knew us like when they came to the party, you know? - One time, oh my god, kid, we have the one time, Kim and I had a fucking gig the night before, and we slept in face for what, four hours. - Oh my god. - Kim and I slept like this. Like, speak to each other. - Yeah, virus. Like vampires, like a pack of hot dogs. They were just like, crusting over. - And so we wake up, we put on the outfit, 'cause it was an Olympic-themed photo shoot. So what-- - You just have a photo shoot after in the morning. - The photo shoot was supposed to be at noon. - No, no. - Our call time was like 10 a.m. - 10, 10, yeah. - And I don't wanna say what it was, but the photographer at the time said, he just came in, and I remember him saying like, hey, I thought it was Coke, but it was like G, or something, it was like Coke. - No, it was, no. - He thought he was snorting Coke, but it was ketamine. - And so he was in a cave hole. - This one needs to take a nap. So we sat there and drag and waited for the photo shoot to start. - Well, we're talking like-- - He uncade out. - Literally like eight drag queens. - Like fully ready to go at noon. - And a bunch of beautiful Gogo boys, which at the time I will say, the Gogo boys in Chicago were dropped at gorgeous. - Oh for sure. - Drop dead gorgeous. Muscle, beautiful, huge Gogo boys. And we all just sit there and wait for the photo shoot to start-- - Outside in the sun. - Outside in the sun. - Is this person still alive? - Oh actually, so this person died supposedly? - Oh. - No, no, no, sorry. - No, no, no. So I asked, allegedly-- - This is my friend in Chicago and people are saying like, he's pretending to die to like escape. - On the land. - Second act. - On the land? - I've heard of this confusion. - You know from Double Jeopardy? - Double Jeopardy. - He pretent to die, look to like not pay his like dad or whatever, but he's actually alive somewhere. - But I don't know the truth. - The origin. - I am, but at least that was a legend. This is all a legend. - Uh-huh. - Yeah, don't even Google who it is. We're not trying to blow up people's spots. - Yeah, it was a different time. - We're both of his names. - He's kidding. - But anyway, we do these parties and we were, in my mind, the amount of work we put in looking back, we're talking two or three look changes. At a circuit party, we're no one cared. - Uh-huh. - Yeah. - We're talking look changes, we changing nails, changing contact lenses. - Changing. - But in our head, we're like hashtag up and coming. - Hashtag. - We're here to show the girls. - Tonight's the night. We're gonna show the girls. - So what? - No one does it like Chicago, you guys. And at the time, I think that was kind of true. - Yeah, yeah. - Girl. - At the same time, what was happening in Boston? - The opposite. - What's going on in Boston? - We weren't changing nails. We weren't changing costumes. We weren't changing lives. We weren't changing anybody. - We were changing our diabetes. - We were so ugly. - We're pissing ourselves. We were so ugly, not performing for circuit guys, but for bachelors who don't give a shit. We looked, we had an opening number and a closing number. The fabric that we wore was a, for the opening was right orange squiggle sequin on, like a heavy knit, and a green squiggle sequin on a heavy knit. I wore a sleeveless, like a St. Patrick's Day. - Uh-huh. - And there was, you could do whatever you wanted with it. So I wore a shirt and a skirt and shitty black boots. - Is that what you wanted? - And then the closing outfit was a brown paisley. A brown paisley grandmother's couch type of fabric. - What? - For lady Marmalade. Diabolical. - My biggest guilty pleasure is watching drag queens put together like their matching group looks for opening and closing of things. - This would curl your hair. - They start, they start the outfit the day before. - Oh baby. - People just go, just wear something black. - But this was, this was worse. It was like started the day before and then it degrades because you become lazier and lazier and less and less interested in the number. So by the end, you just like a bunch of fucking, I don't even know what. It was so, we looked so ugly and so bad in the choreography was so abysmal. - I remember that, I think I've seen you guys do it. Wasn't it delicious? - Wasn't it almost, we had like an ASL vibe of like if you could read my mind, wasn't that it? There was that, I don't want to say ASL vibe, but-- - It was a pantomime drag. - It was, it was sort of, I love you. - But you know, people, to be fair though, we really brought the house down with our box set for bootylicious. - I don't think you're ready for this jelly. I don't think you're ready for this jelly. I don't think you're ready for this jelly 'cause your body's too bootylicious for you, but. - I can't. - I had Kelly's part, still don't know the words. Can I say that something about, there's also something about Lady Marmalade that is a pecking order 'cause some girls get stuck with Maya. - Because we didn't have, we had Stereo or something. Maya's part didn't even come in at the end. So I would, I would, I would, I would, I'll be Maya, I don't care 'cause I could go smoke. You know what I mean? And I would come back, wait a minute. I love, I love, nothing, nothing. - And also, the token black round of the cast is always the little Kim. - Right. - And the little Kim front had the fun part. - She had the best, she had the best part, pink. But like. - The Christina is horny. And also, it was very. - Striking is always mithelia. - Yes. - Oh my God, the Striking is mithelia for sure. - We never had mithelia. - And then it's always like, the drive, the reveal is that it's like, whoa, you know, it's a big build up. It's never the girl with the best outfit. The reveal's not hitting. - It was misery. She was like, six, five, a black Panamanian, where it was always a fight between misery and destiny being Christina. And it was just like, you know, the book or the troll, like me gets to be pink or Maya. And I couldn't be a little Kim because of, you know. - The pink part's nice with the word. - This is Maya's pretty short too. - Yeah. - It was very short because it had no. - Well, I guess yeah, the little Kim part is a lot of words. So you would have to really know it. - I mean, I know it, but I would come out, I would go blazing out like Maya, and then right out the door to smoke a cigarette. And I didn't have to come back because I didn't play that part. - I think that's what Maya does at her concert. I think she just kind of walks out 'cause she smokes. - I just watched a movie with Maya, and she was in it. She gets killed. - She incursed that Jesse Asimberg was. - Chicago, no. - No, I think she was incursed that Jesse Asimberg were. - She was in Chicago. - Yeah, she was in the sub-lactin, yeah. - Yes, yes, she is quite a beauty. That's beautiful. - Beautiful. - You know what, wait, Brandy and Monica just did a tour, and I just want to say very briefly, I really appreciate their stage wear. They did not come out in the same tired, cat suit, body suit, sequin stuff. Like Jennifer Lopez, Godlover. But she's, like Jennifer Lopez is doing this, like Beyonce outfit with this hip-hop choreo that just doesn't make any sense. But like Brandy and Monica have these fabulous, like fucking long latex trenches, and they're like, I don't know, it's fierce. - Speaking of Brandy and Monica, the Queen's doing a duet with the boys. Mine is also my favorite because everybody thinks they know the words, but no one actually knows the words. - Right, do. - Well, you are just so fucking special. (laughs) - I never had known that song. - Me and my black friend used to do that song. - I never knew that song until when girls were like, do you want to just do the boys mine? I'm like, I don't know it. I think when we went on a tour once, you were like, let's do the boys, and I was like, I don't know it. - Oh, it's fierce. - It's fierce. - I don't even know many duets or a girl. I did Nancy Queen with you and you. - We always don't know that one. I do know it. I know. No, no, no, no. Waterloo. Waterloo. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, we do know it. We're incredible at it. Oh, yeah. Oh my god, we're amazing. We're amazing. Kim and I also one time, girl, Kim jogged my memory. We were working someplace in Iowa called. What was that kicking? We also did a Halloween to a number together. Look at his splits. Oh, we did the Blu-Lay brothers. Yeah, but I don't know what song we did. We did dancing green. We're heating the nachos. For sure. Girl. Um, we're doing it. We're doing it. We're doing the blu-Lay brothers. We're going to drag you live. I know. It's like girls want to be her. And we come out like, and she like, they're like black, not even real, like, faux PVC. Oh my god. That's fine. Um, can I, we did a show in Iowa, where they suckered you and I into like, oh my god, do you have a group number? Yeah, at the end of the end, you guys are going to be in the group number. Um, this girl was, was it once you was. Yeah. And they were like, so she's going to do like a share mix at the end, I think share. And you guys are going to come and you're just going to walk out in like two step. And then you're going to turn around and face the wall, put your hands on the wall and shake your butt. And Kim and I're like, what is the song? Yeah, what is the stage look like? What is the blocking? Yeah, and it was so hot in there that it was dripping condensation from the ceiling. And Kim and I are completely, it looked like if you took each of us and dipped up. in like glycerin. And lacquer you'd use for the porch. I remember this thing, we were both holding onto the wall, shaking our butt and tri-fields and being like, "CAM, what is happening?" But no, she's like, "I don't know." She's like, "I don't know." We're just doing it. I'm not in a place where I will ever be like, "Will you just come on for the group?" No, I can't do it. No. Unless there's a rehearsal for the group, then I don't think we should do the group thing. But something about drag queen is like, "Hey, we're just gonna. " Although, Lady Marmalade is I think the great equalizer of like, everyone in this room might know one or two of these verses. Yeah, there's also no choreo, which is why it's not good. Well, we don't know the verses, but it's okay. But eventually, we're all out there together. Yeah. It's corny. It's very, very played out. It's corny. What is the ultimate drag opening and closing for your drag show to the stars? Opening and closing. So you're performing for Beyoncé, for Brandy, for. I don't know if that'll have realistically ever happened. No, I think they're better candidates. No, no, but it is happening. It's happening and you have to choose the program right now. We're working it out. Would you let yourself obviously? Would be your outlet. Like, if you had four or five girls in a show, what's your opening and closing number? Oh my God. Not Lady Marmalade. You think it's gonna hit, but it's never actually hissed away. Like, maybe bang, bang. That is over there. Too much. I hate that too. Yeah. You know, what if you just come over something really random? Like, what is that? All I want for Christmas is you. That's a great group number. Even better if it's summer time. Yeah. What about Islands in the stream? Somebody has to be Kenny Loggis. What about Rodgers? What's in Phillips? Hold on. That's a great. You could do that. That's three, right? Boy is at bottom. Shout out to that. Yeah, yeah. That's a good drag queen group number. I don't feel like it's a drag queen performing another drag queen's like song. Greatest love of all. No. That's a big girl. We are the world. I want to be. I want to be. Oh. Okay, well, we don't have to. It's okay. We don't have to do it. Did you watch the Victoria Beckham documentary? No. I didn't know she had a documentary. Well, yeah, David Beckham had a great one on Netflix and now Victoria had one highly recommended. Love those fuckers. Love those fuckers. How was it? Great. People give her a Did you ever watch the Jennifer Lopez documentary? This is me dot, dot, dot, now. Yeah. I don't think that's a documentary. Oh, there's a documentary about the movie. Movie. Yeah. No. I'm aware of it. She's like looking for a dancer and she's like just called Derek and they name all these like celebrities and they're like they're not available. They're available and she's like called like dark. He's in a wedding and then she like makes the space. That's right. But it was like his wedding. He was getting married. Then she expected him to like drop his own wedding and come film or maybe I honestly icon. Yeah. Her team reached out to me to have me delete an Instagram post that I posted. I was performing with her. Really? Yeah, about 10 years ago. Oh my god. You said you were doing a show with her. Yeah. Like 2017. I was like, I'm so excited to be performing a show with her. It's a joke. I was like, so excited to be performing with JLo tonight. My dream come true. Hours later, David's like, uh, Jennifer Lopez's team reached out. Could you please delete that post? I was like, well, I think she saw me. It would have been clearly a joke, don't you think? No, shit. I don't know that she's exactly. I mean, there's reason why I don't want to say that because it could happen. But you, I think everyone would know that that would never happen to you. I think it would be okay. You know, it's such a fiction, such a farce. Hey, girls, I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back at Jacques tonight. People believe that. You know, so what is your take on random, like pop stars? Randomly using like drag queens as a accessory at their like concerts or music videos. I'm sure you get those offers. Like, hey, so and so is like doing a tour and they're going to bring out a drag queen. It's not paid, but or or what about them mopping their whole stick or like their catchphrase and oh yeah. Yeah. Do you want to say any names? We can blur it out. Am I the drama? Yeah, we can blur out our mouths, but we will not cut the audio. Does that help? Does that help? What are my face? What are my face? I told my voice down. I don't stop the streets. Well, it was Cardi B. You know, oh my god. Cardi B is responsible for my favorite music artist, almost quitting music. Was the I love I'm sorry. I I'm music wise. I don't really not defend, but of her personality, her I feel like she's so funny. Oh, she's so charming. And I'm not a Nicki Minaj. It's gone like full Mac. I feel like we need all the good ones we can get. You know, yeah, if she can say, oh, all she wants. Yeah, you know what? Though it's not just we need the good ones. I think we need the good ones. Might also make you think like we need to reach across the aisle. When I hear any of these fucking cuts saying anything like, well, there's good and bad on both sides. I know there's there's there's there's there's bad and then there's horrible shit. That's what I'm saying. To me, anything like I can see both sides, although the system's broken, just say you wear a red hat in your room at home when you're alone. Just say you hit trans people. It's just too late. It's too late. Well, I guess I feel whenever I get I don't ask I don't get asked for it often to do those group things for celebrities. But I always say no because I just feel like they'll tell you like, well, so and so really wants to feature you in a video and you have to ask like how many other dry queens are going to be there? It might one of 35 dry queens that are replaceable. Because I don't feel like it and there's often no pay. I can think of a lot of big artists who offered me did that for free. It's such a great publicity though. I'm just kidding. One time was like, we want you in a video. Oh, one time. I'll blur that out or subtitle it. This poster asked me to be in their music video for $250. We're transportation that included. You're your custom and makeup cost more than that. Yeah, it would have been better if they just said like, oh, we don't have our money for budget or something, you know? Yeah. We're broke. We're desperate. We owe the IRS, but we love you so much. But like, so you want to sort of $250 in my way. And then like what? Have me and stop for how many hours and feel like you're like, girl. Yeah. I will say the reason why you're so qualified to write this stunning food book is because you love food. You love cooking and you've traveled the world. I've really slain think that we need to put our heads together and put together some kind of declaration of independence on we the people for if you want to book a dry queen like a flow chart of like, you want to book a dry queen. Yeah. So you're going to need money. You're going to need a dressing room. You need to follow Deborah messing. You need air conditioning in that dressing room. You need a mirror. You need to make sure that if there are the drugs in that dressing room, that they're not going to steal from you. Yeah. The car to the venue. It can't be a compact car. Missing on the floor. No, not certainly. I do sprinter bands. We're never looking back. No time. I showed up at a gig to perform and they take me to a generous closet with broken glass on the floor. Oh, yeah. And I was like, there's broken glass on the floor and then they got like a tarp and put it over the broken glass and then it saw dust over it. And that was my dressing room. Yeah. You know, I'm like, it's like, well, that was jocks. So, oh my god, loose rugs when came when I used to work at hydrate. The basement, which our dressing room was was maybe maybe four four and a half. You can stand up. And Kim's already seven, seven, seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Kim in drag and she used to wear all these big elaborate head art. We'd be prone in the dressing room. We'd be like at Barry's boot camp crawling on the ground and that's much into floor 30. So if you're knee touches the ground, you're tied to. Yeah. I, you know, I have to think more about that because every time I fucking complain on one of our incredibly cushy luxurious, wonderful gigs, I'm like, I used to, I used to make $50 performing to no one on a loose rug filled with like baggots. And you're the happiest that you ever were. But take me back. Take me back. So weren't earning anyone much money. And now you are. So it's okay to say, I hope the money I earn you. I hope some of it gets used to do the things you said you were going to do when you booked me. Wait, what? It's okay for you to say when you booked me, you said that you would provide. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no totally totally. But when I get those doing it now, no, no, no, I'm saying that when I do get all those things, I still complain because I'm a piece of shit. - Yeah, I bet you like it. - She's a special, okay. - It's 65, I want it 64. - You know what I mean, that kind of thing. - Speaking of complete, you know what's crazy too? Because at least from my experience, we're working with a lot of new queens. A lot of these queens was never at like a real job. You know, like, they become old and not become old, but they become like of age, and then they go straight to drag race, and then they go straight to working these places, and they have no, they don't know how to act. - They've never worked, yeah. - Yeah, that is true. - And they pull some of the craziest shit that I've seen anyone pull like gags, and I'm like, I cannot believe like you. - We'll subtitle it, don't worry. - I'm not gonna. - Is there anything general enough that the person won't know who it is? - If you give his variance. - No, no, no, no, I don't want to start any drama. - No, no, no, no, just give it hypothetical. - But you know, there's this extremely unprofessional, they're like incredibly rude. - No, when you mean a professions of like time, or anything like that, they have like no respect for anybody else. - Yeah, yeah. - For my time, you know, it was like a bad thing if you like didn't do the meeting grade, because you didn't care. Like have to point out that they just don't show up to meet in grades, 'cause they don't feel like. - What? - You know what else was Conti? This was like back in the day of early drag race, maybe like the 2015-16s. Remember like a mix and mingle? It was like a group meet and greet. There would always be one or two people who will only show up in the last five minutes of it. - Well, to be fair, a lot of those people didn't have a line. - No, they did. - Oh really? - Yeah, and in time, line was like a real thing. Like as a group shows, very time is very important. But even like my friends in my day-to-day life, I have friends that I like love hanging out with and you know, they're amazing, but like they'll just not show up on time. And so then I have to. And I feel like then now I'm like, I know they're gonna be late. So then I start showing up late because I know they're gonna be late, but then I'm like. - What are you doing? - Am I being trained to be late by these people? Like why don't you just say like, okay, so eight, we're saying eight, but do we really mean nine? Like what do you know what I mean? - I don't know. - I don't know, I don't know. I don't know why time is such a car thing for many people. It's like we are always on time. - Yeah, same, I mean, part of why we've worked together is 'cause we're on time. - Yeah, 90% of the time, if I'm not, hmm, I'm on time because I feel that if you're not, it's directly disrespectful. - Yeah. - Sometimes she's on time, sometimes she's on something else. - Yeah. - And they're all like, oh, you know, like time blindness, you know what I'm saying? It's not a forget-trade, you know, like it's fucking annoying. - That's like, what's so who is it? Madonna was just talking about that. She's like, you don't know, like it's hard to be on time. I have like my spiritual life to take care of. - You know, there's like thousands of people waiting on you. - On a Monday night. - Yeah. - And that's the thing to you, the fans and also the respect for other drag queens. I mean, I just don't think and drag, like the truth is, especially when you're on a tour, if one day you're cut and close, you just start earlier the next day. Also, we're putting on the same wig and outfit every night on a tour. - That's all you're doing. - Pretty much. And if you're cut and close one, I mean, I will feel like in the middle of a tour, I will get my process down to 90 minutes. 'Cause I know the outfit, I know the wig. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't know. I print up during the same makeup every night. I just feel like if you're late today, tomorrow start earlier, but that type of person-- - They never start early. - They never start early. - If anything, they get met at you for being met at them for being late. - And also, like this, the editor is like, well, you know I'm late. Is that well? I also know you're an asshole. Like, I don't know, I guess you just, I don't know. I like punctuality. I always grew up thinking late on time was late. - Yeah. - Like it was always half an hour early rather than five minutes late. - Is it so easy to figure out your day no matter how busy you are? Like, just start your day a few minutes earlier. - Also, these people have a fucking assistance and assistance assistance. - And I'm literally flying solo. - We're on like L.A. time where I also think, I think L.A. is pretty lax with start times. In general, what do you think? - I could see everyone was like, oh, sorry, I'm stuck in the traffic. - I was at home dyeing my hair blue and smoking weed with my wasby and girlfriend. - You know, L.A., woke. - It's that. It's like, oh, you know, the traffic is so crazy. It's like, you came from Rio to Rio? - I had to buy my $18 coffee. - Unless you're brand new in L.A., you do know that some things at this time of day as twice as long. - And when you do, I feel like if you live in L.A. long enough, you just don't agree to do, like you say, like, oh, you want to do this? I can't get there in time. Or you know what I mean? There's like traffic, you know what I mean? You just kind of like, you plan and you participate. You're like, that's not possible. Rather than, yeah, I'll be there in 10 minutes. 45 minutes later. - It's too spread out. - The real life hack though, 'cause I have a hard time sitting in the car and drag. The new life hack is if you can get them to get you, they're one of those party buses. How's wife party buses? - With the poles? - Either or. But you know, the thing where it's a bench that's like you shaped, that's what I got to and from Chapel Rhone. And you can sit in a corset completely upright, comfortably, versus when you're in a car and drag. Like, I don't know. - What about a horse? - Yeah, lay me down, honestly. Or right on top of the car like Priscilla. Yeah. - Speaking of which, what's really good thing you at Chapel Rhone, you're amazing. - Oh, thank you. Which she opened for about 60,000 people? - Yeah. - It was, I was on it like 6/10. So honestly didn't think any of my friends would, she texted me, she was coming and I was like, do let, just come out. No, stroke. She was like, I'll see you tonight. And I was, I knew I was on it 6/10. So I was like, I don't think anybody will sue me, but. - Thanks for inviting me. - You showed up at four o'clock. - Yeah, it's like a music festival. - Yeah, incredible. - Honestly, it's like smart. And I've never seen a music festival where water was $3. - What? - The stuff was also going on, passing on like free water to everyone. So people like don't pass out for a minute. Stuff was like reasonably prized. It was like a great experience time. Honestly, Chapel Rhone, like props to your mama, you know? - If you could have seen the dressing room they had for me, the luxury yurt with private air conditioning, multiple couches, a huge desk to get ready. And a mere lit mirror, that was like this day. - Wow. - Treating the drag queen's good. - She started on time? - Yes. - So to be honest, I ate a one. - Oh. - I love start on time. - Oh, I got. - Everyone should start on time. - I got hard and I came. 802, she was on there. I was like, oh. - When Colbert Carter started on the dot, pretty much I was like, this is something. - It's like, let me tell you, I do not enjoy sitting around waiting. - I don't either. And we had buffet. - Yeah. - Like we had food. I was like, I have getting antsy. - What's your ideal start time for a drag show? - Oh, right on the dot. And I know promoters always try to delay as much as possible to get more people in the dark. - They hire like alcohol sales. And I'm like, audience doesn't like that. And it's gonna turn off more people from coming to your show. 'Cause they're like, oh, they're not gonna start till 11. I'm not gonna do that. If I know a show is starting in time, I will always show up so I can watch a show and leave. - Yeah, eight o'clock, eight o'clock, 15, that's it. - For DJing, they always put me like late or last. Because they, they're afraid people will leave. They tell me that. But then I'm like, well, then they're so sick of, they're tired and too drunk. Or they've danced already for like an hour. So then you inherit like a very tired audience. - And they're just looking at you. - They're like wiped out. And they don't leave 'cause they paid money. So I don't know. I don't think we should, I trap people in venues. - I agree. I start the shows in time, you know what? And it'll train people to show up to your thing really. They're like, oh, the show starts at 10 o'clock. So we gotta be there at 10, you know? - Yeah. - Stop delaying it. - Oh, I had to do. I did a little Halloween wiggle in Minneapolis. And I was like, I hosted the first half. And then there was a little break. And then I was like, the last performer to go. And I was like, I'd rather go first. Are you getting me? - I'd rather do three numbers back to back. Right at the beginning. - Oh, I love going first. - When you do work the world, do you do like earlier in the show? - Oh, talk about work the world. Is that show looks so fun? - Does that run on time? - Oh, I worked the world around some time now. Kim killed some people. - No, it's just back in the day. Like there are some monsters like where the shows will be delayed by like hour or two because of these monsters. - They were in a tight ship now for the most part. - Did you love that? I mean, I haven't seen it. I've never seen it live. The clips I've watched. It does look so fun. - Yeah, I think this past concept was fun, you know? But yeah, Ensemble tour, they think. - It's tough. - A lot of personalities. - In some ways, it's fun. When I was on the Ensemble tours, it was nice 'cause you could almost jump around with your dressing room made. I remember sharing rooms and skipping around. - It's great, I feel like the girls you tour with. - Yeah, I can't do it. Jinks, I love her so much, but I can't be in the same room in there because she's definitely singing in your years. - Well, I remember the first time I did a tour where I got to like, oh, my first time I get to share dressing with Farah. I have that moment of me and her getting to get ready and you're really bond when you get ready with people. Do you have your own dressing room? - Depends on the venue. You know, some venues have like more things, some venues don't. - Who's your go-to sharing dressing room, Diba? - This past tour, honestly, no one. I mean, I like all the girls on tour, but I wanna be naked in my room. I wanna play my music. I don't wanna, you know, like, my music to like worry about like, I think I'm gonna like the music I'm playing, you know? - Yeah, and I like to watch, when I'm on tour, I like to watch TV shows in the dark. No, I like to put a TV show on and watch like an episode a day when you're ready. She gets ready with the compact and the complete dark. - I love quiet and dark dressing room. - Yeah, that's absolutely valid. - At least dim. - I like super bright, very loud annoying music. - I like the JBL in the face. - Yeah, I know, it's not. - No, I like super bright too. - Yeah, I like, and I like K-pop blasting it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I realize my music sounds like Nell's on a chalkboard to everybody else, so I try to get it. - No, I actually like it. And for me, I like the JBL to turn it on, like when I'm putting on my body, when it's time to like get in character in a way. - The music will help me get to the, and we're on tour and we're feeling nothing inside. Sometimes I'd have to take that JBL, I'd pump it up and use it to walk to the stage. - Yes, I'm telling you. - The music will walk to the stage. - It's just like getting you into groove, you know? - You got to think of that. - You got to think of it. - Pumping. - So I don't know, sometimes the music helps. - Do you have a good pump up song? - If you had to listen to only one song for the rest of your life while getting in drag. - Only once, oh my God, that is a very deep question. question. Um, the carpenter's superstar. Love. I probably do car wash. Okay. Five minutes. Yeah. Rose rice always gets a great, great flow. Yeah. We'll let you. I mean, probably something abba. Yeah. Yeah. I was just timeless. It eats equate. Not mama told me to put on it for Nando. No, I love I really love. Um, I really love take a chance on me. Yeah. Speaking of, um, my one time when you put on his dress again, um, one day, I talked about this some gig that we did, um, to this day, where it was, um, pride with Trixie featuring. We filmed it at the precinct featuring Trixie and her friends. But then yes, there was no air conditioning. There was no air conditioning. And at one point, they had us hold these really heavy mannequins. And they had a stance with the mannequins in this like sweaty room while Trixie singing Malibu over and over again. And one day and hour sweating so bad and these mannequins were getting so heavy to the point it was like hard to hold them off. And we were looking at each other like just listening to Malibu. Uh-huh. And now like whenever I come across Malibu, it automatically like triggers me. Malibu. Yeah. It's a lovely song. I wouldn't, I wouldn't sentence any of my friends to a hot room hearing me sing it on repeat. I think that's kind of aggressive. But also it was also right during COVID. So that was why it was like, we were doing a pride special at precinct. I remember hearing about this. It was like 400 degrees. It was for YouTube, I believe. And then I did a YouTube pride special with Juno Birch. And there was also an air conditioning. So, you know, why have air conditioning? It's overrated. Yeah, especially in LA. Oh my god. I just did the belay's Halloween thing two weeks ago last week. How is it? What did you do? DJ for 45 minutes. Love it. That outfit you were was fabulous. That go shit. The beautiful. Thank you. Oh, it goes. Yeah. And I was leaving the venue and the person came up. And said, I just want to meet you. I run the venue. And I said, oh, whatever the air conditioning. And it was like one a.m. in the alley front her. And he in. He goes, oh, we had one of our things went out. And I said, oh, bomber six year in a row. Have a great night. Like, I don't care anymore. You don't have air conditioning. And you keep lying about it. I won't be seeing you again. It's going to be exposed tonight. It's just too hot. Yeah, it's not enjoyable. It's too hot. Nobody benefits. I'm seeing drips off my face, hit the equipment. I'm like, what are we doing? Have you tried losing some weight, fatty? Wait, I will never forget before I get this. Give me that book. Wacker with the book. If I don't want to lose any weight, I surely will be cooking every single recipe in your book. Where can people get it? Yeah, available. Any cool place that sells books books.com. Anywhere that sells books, but also you can go to my Instagram link and bio for all the various places where you can protect the ground. Congratulations, author. Thank you. Along with Kim's chick beauty. Oh, by the way, I just got your thank you for the PR stuff. Of course, yeah. Are you guys in CBS now? We're in CVS. We're at JCPenney. We're also on alter.com. Oh, yeah, Alta's new. Yeah. Alta.com, dead. Well, Kim's products. I love your products. Your products are conti. The blushes, the hot love. The look. The concealer. I use the drag queens turn out for those concealers. They are amazing. I use I love using them as eye shadow bases. They're gorgeous. Also the brush applicator. Yes. Like speed of just like yes, you did squeezy and then I love your products too. Kim knows everything about makeup and everything about food. So this is a wonderful gift item for anybody in your life who likes drag and likes to eat food. Did you've always been a foodie but have you always been able to cook? Oh, yeah. Have you ever tried eating your makeup? Never cooking. Not yet, but we do. We have just released some lip glossist that are like scented and flavored. So love that. I'm gonna make some of this. I love you're not gonna make it. Yes, I am. I love cooking. You cook? Yes, since when? Oh, started during COVID. I learned using green chef. Oh, so it's over for you. Oh, my God. Can I have that? Yeah, this book. Yeah, they never sent me one. Oh, this is my copy. They never said it was supposed to go to me. Oh, I can buy one. I'll buy one. You're rich. Thank you, fat fuck. No, fucking congratulations on your double book. But your double book released. [BLANK_AUDIO]