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Keys and Gray Unleashed | Tower Bridge Special

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Keys and Gray Unleashed | Tower Bridge Special

The transcription features an informal conversation between two football insiders, likely former executives or journalists, reflecting on their careers and the state of football. They begin by thanking their hosts and discussing trivial matters like teapots, but quickly shift to deeper topics. They recount their time in Qatar, expressing fondness for the region and pride in their work there, but note it was time to leave after 13 years. A major theme is their animosity toward Harry Redknapp, whom they accuse of attempting to have them jailed and describe as selfish, though they defer full details for later. They also critique the recent World Cup, labeling it one of the worst finals ever, criticizing Argentina’s anti-football tactics and poor sportsmanship, while exempting Spain from blame. They extend this to FIFA President Gianni Infantino, whom they see as corrupt and likely to be ousted. Additionally, they question England’s goalkeeper, suggesting a Coventry player is superior, and express frustration with modern football changes, such as hydration breaks and altered schedules, though they deny responsibility for such shifts. Throughout, the tone is conversational, with personal stories, humor, and a shared sense of nostalgia for football’s past, alongside a critical view of its present direction.

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That's a proper cup I can put a finger through there. It's not a bit hidden. Yeah. It's just a new trademark. I'm often asked by people. You don't have a great deal of tooling for the Red Naps, do you? And there's a story there. Oh, it's back down. Yeah, it's here. It's that one you had in the long last year. Is that the one? I don't want to use the word corrupt. That's not because I make up a bit of it. I will, I will. I was just a small part of that. We created change in football. We never all put the fabric of the Navy menace. We never-- Quite genuinely could have ended up with you and I in jail. And I think they're coming for face, so I'll never been back all the way. Oh, I'm pleased you're still in the lead. I've used your rock. That's six points for us. I don't like to get busy, as you know. But we just-- Yes. I feel you're busy. I'm sure. Now what's the code? The David Dickinson Saver. I think we always work with that more physically. And you know, can you edit that please? Thanks very much. Right, here we go. Club test. Rolling. We're rolling. We're rolling. Yes. All right. Any change? Any change? Any change? Rolling. That's a nice start. Cure Richard. You see, what's different now is there was a time that would have mattered. Yeah. And no, it doesn't. Not really? No. But I've been able to go out and play. Yeah. It's funny because I've-- Yeah, very thirsty. No. I've spent a few days thinking about how we would start. I thought that was essential. Oh. Yes. Of course. We'll have a glass in a minute. Before we go any further, I did want to thank our hosts, Le Pauque de la Tour. Oh, sir. Here on the banks of the Thames. Naturally, we can see that. But the teapot-- Yes. See this? 100%. This is something that bothers me. You go to so many fancy restaurants and they think they've got to produce fancy teapots and cups. Yeah. This is brilliant. Look. No, and the beauty. I think what you've been talking about, right? Normally, you could produce one cup of tea. Yeah. And you get these silly things-- Newmerish cups of tea. With-- you know the one I mean. I know the one. Exactly what you mean. But the one you get in Chinese restaurants and-- Yeah, I like to that. That's a proper cup. I can put a finger through there and lift that without the fear of-- So anyway, so-- No, right. --from this factory to the-- And thank you very much. I'll say it again, shall I? The point, the latter. And really, as well, for getting involved and helping us plant this habit. So I just thought, Andy, we're not going to get this chance anywhere else. So we should create it for ourselves. Why not? I'm sure in some quarters be-- not so well received. Yeah. So that's what I got to thinking about. I've only got about four group chats on my phone. One of them is four smug men. [LAUGHS] You really-- Happy blooms are at will. Of the four smug men. We, the two of us, Jeff Shreves and Andy Melvin are, executive producer, but just sitting, bucking him, she and golf club-- I know where. I know where. I know where. The Patrick Collins from the mail on Sunday, top journalist, brilliant writer. Decided he was going to lace us. And made reference to the fact that he was in the company of four smug men. Scadless. I thought that this probably should be called two smug men. Well, I would object to that. I have been called many things in my life. I have to be honest. But only once they have been called smug. And that was with Patrick. Well, make that twice. Well, no. I-- I do remember the last time we were down here. We are just-- As you can see. I do remember the side of the Tower Bridge. Do you remember the last time we were here? The last time we were here, we weren't actually sitting on land. We actually went from on land to on sea. And I think we were all-- Land. --to on sea. On sea. You mean we went on to the river? Yes. Yeah. Well, that's what I see. And if memory tells me well, we went on Joe Lewis-- What? Joe Lewis is-- We did. --and the company of Craig Johnston. Yes. Craig was walking out with Joe's daughter, who's now running Tottenham. And invited us for lunch. It was amazing. Myself, you read it and Mark Bowen. Wonderful, wonderful lunch. The extraordinary thing was the subject of Harry Redna, I'm up once or twice. Harry was then manager of Tottenham, I remember. And as I left, Craig pulled me to one side. He said, would you come back? Oh, great. And I said, love to why. I thought he just meant for another life. He never said that to me. Well, there's a reason. I mean, smog. Yes. And he said, no, no, no, no, no. I'd like you to come back and talk to Daniel and Joe-- Oh, OK. --about Harry Redna. And-- Well, that is even it. Yeah. --for the future. There's a story. [LAUGHS] I can't wait. How was cat-off for you? Wonderful. Unexpected. I didn't know what to expect by, like yourself. Or you'd been before. I didn't know what to-- No, I knew exactly what to expect. I didn't. And when we got there, we arrived on the sea of the Saturday night and on the Sunday, Ramadan started. And you and I had no idea what was going on. No, that was a shock. That was a shock. But who did-- remember who we bumped into in the bar? Yeah, in Ned Kelly. Yes, from Manchester United. Yes. Ned was there with prospective purchases of Manchester United. Correct. There's a story there. A good story as well. Place was jumping. And following morning was the first day of Ramadan. But we went, if you remember, really tried to sort the deal out. But I knew Andy what was coming down the line. I knew, then. How was it for you, the how well they think you feel? I absolutely loved it. I consider it home still. You got me, too. I think-- You missed. I know. I'm very proud of what we did. I'm mentally proud of what we do. I'm very grateful to have been received in the manner that we were, not just by Qataris, but by the region. It's a misunderstood region. If Donald Trump had perhaps spoken to either you or me in advance of his catastrophic illegal, maybe he would have thought twice. Maybe. I love that part of the world. But for me, it was just time. That's what I say to people, keys, when I got a bike. I am impressed. But do you know what I think when you're opening another bottle of champagne? I think there should be a small sound, you know, because how did I know what you were opening? Because I've been opening a bottle of wine. Well, I'd like to think getting your minces would have revered. Oh, no, no. But I'd like to say that champagne should be a company where-- Maybe a little. What a little-- Yeah. A little pop. Yeah, my feeling was, Andy, taking to account all of the things I've already said. But what's left now for me? I'm being too morbid about this. It's easier than the best years of what's left. And I don't want to waste them not living with my wife. Of course, around whom there are numerous stories. I tell you what did make me laugh, Paul Daker, who runs a daily mail, former editor, who's now in charge of that whole group, when they won the court. When the Harry case was whitewashed, I put it like that, when the mail won. And I saw-- he did a piece of camera. So I'm talking about the robust journalism of the daily mail. It laughable. How many times do you think I've had calls from the daily mail to inquire about hysteria or rumor or inaccuracy surrounding my personal life? -Romney Agess. -Yeah. -Lever. -Correct. You know, unfortunately, I think in general, the legacy media these days are as guilty as we are. And we're just-- we're joining that. But clicks and hits are more important than accuracy. Yeah. Well, you're a-- your child takes the purposes as a journalist, right? Briefly. -Do you mean briefly or something? -No, no. -Townal. -I mean, briefly. I don't want you to talk too much about it, because these are things we should be talking about later and create a death. But has journalism changed that much? -Yes, and choose that. -Yes. The board, so many people down the years, with check, check, and then check it again. Don't even check now, because if you check, it's going to spoil what you want to write. So you just write. You create-- and look at that extraordinary example recently. I stepped out of a hotel. I'd had breakfast with Aiman Holmes. And I'd be wishing my names. Yeah, keys laughing at Holmes injury. No, I was laughing at Aiman's joke about-- he was self-deprecating in his-- I know you mean it. --conversation. Because-- I mean, I wouldn't have been a good headland. Anyway, no, I-- I-- Qatar loved it, but it was time. This is the time to be-- I agree. I think it was 13 years later. 30 fantastic years met. What lots of wonderful people, people who remain lifelong friends for you and I will have fortunate enough to meet. But it is a transient society that is one where you go in there. You're there for a settlement at Aiman, you leave. You know, that's what it is. And that's where it's been-- not quite being that for us, because if 13 years is a long stint-- Yeah, on the back of two years at Talksport, which was-- And I still look at with a. Deep affection. I loved working on the radio. I'm swear, I'd started largely, but missed your period at Everton. I think I was leaving as you were coming in. Oh, glad, because you've got a red then. Yeah, you're. I think I will have you. No, I was. You were. You were the red. I was a red. I went over the years. I've undergone that same transition that Rede took. (LAUGHS) Someone that stood on the cop. Rede did it. War blue, I. Now, proper, Everton. Yes, proper. I think that happened to me. Yeah. Just one thing about chalk, which I should say. I'm often asked by people, you don't have a great deal of time for the red and apps to do, and the answer is, no. Why is that, then? Well, I can't tell you. I wouldn't need to tell it right now. No, we don't need to tell it. But I can't offer you the. Harry tried to have us put in jail. Really? You know that, man. I know, but. You were there. Prompting you. Yeah. So you're acting? Yes. Yes. Okay. Is it good? No. (LAUGHS) You know full well. I thought it was quite good, let's say. I think. Malice was there, Malice. I don't think there was Malice. I think there was a lack of care, a lack of thought that could have ended up. Quite genuinely, could have ended up with you and I in jailed out. He didn't give a toss. He's selfish. That's one for the future. He's as selfish as his son, though I spent 18 months driving around the country. Oh, it's pregnant. Yeah, that is also one for the future. So no, I don't. But I do hold that grudge. No. That doesn't come out of you. No. No. I'm surprised. I haven't even just talked with him before. But it was an extraordinary scenario. That was, I know. And that is for another time. For a little telling. How is your World Cup? Different. Very, very different. I sat there and I thought I cannot, when it started, I thought I cannot remember the last time a World Cup was played and I wasn't working on it. I thought, if you want my. Do you want an opinion of the World Cup, a brief one? Of course I want an opinion of the World Cup. Well, I'm just saying the real. I mean, I thought everyone owned about what a glorious World Cup it was. I disagreed totally with that. I didn't think it was a glorious World Cup at all. I think it's one of the worst World Cup finals I've ever seen. Ever seen. And no one can deny that. For a team to play in the World Cup final and not of one attempt at going 90 minutes is embarrassing. Is embarrassing. And when you see, when you remember the Cup final we gave them from Qatar four years ago, which was mind-blowing, mind-blowing. Probably the best team of football that I ever saw. Yeah, it was amazing. And then when you saw what was served up by Argentina. And I exempt Spain from criticism. Because Spain tried to play and do their stuff and do their things. What the Argentinians did in that final was. It was almost anti-fuc-ball for me. Almost anti-fuc-ball. They were a disgrace. The way they behaved. Particularly, they behaved at the end of the game. A complete disregard for the team that had beaten them. Not accepting it really. Turning them back from the presentation when Spain were getting presented. Yeah, I can imagine a huge disappointment of a World Cup final loss. But come on, show up at a class, guys. But the game itself was a huge turn-off. And I thought. Because I make that restaurant. Well, I will use key. It's not too short. Did you think so? It was. I look. I didn't watch. 90 minutes. I hold it. In total. Or. Or on a World Cup that I thought. What I expected, which is why I said, I didn't want to work on it. I didn't want to besmirch the memory of what I'd seen in Qatar. Oh, yeah. What did I expect? I expected in America that it would turn out to be exactly what it was, which is the most corrupt World Cup. Since 1978, I would say. If you remember, Argentina needing six goals to beat Peru after Brazil had won earlier in the day to increase their goal difference to a plus five. Argentina needed six goals to go to a final. They got them. Peru got corn and activists were arrested by the junta in Argentina. I mean, it was rotten. I agree. It was rotten. And I expected it. And then in Fantino, Internet exposed himself for exactly what he is when he tried to sell football post-World Cup. And I spoke about this once already. The world wasn't ready for his plans. Well, actually it was. Yeah, it was ready for his plans. I liked the drips in sincerity. And in I've always said about bladder. There was an admirable honesty about his dishonesty. I like set. And I can't. Yeah. And in Fantino, we set bladder like Mother Teresa. There's a really good story, which again, will tell about the award of Qatar and England's failure. But now I think now he will go. I don't think he will. He will go. I would. Why? Why? Because no, I don't agree. This time, you don't have enough votes. Enough. No, they're doing. It might not come down to votes. And he. But my view is he will go. Oh, come on. He's not going to walk away. He will. He will have to. They've got him this time. How can he walk away? He says he has the support of Oshiana. The far east. South America. We shall see. Africa. All those countries. Yeah. What did they tell you about Pep Guardiola? I know. Did it happen? Yeah. I don't speak unless I have got really good. I know you do. The leaf. But what I'm saying. Yeah. Normally, I would not argue. I've been wanting for you to argue with you. But things like this. I know you. Your contacts are amazing. Right. But I just. He's not. I just look at him. I look at him. I think he's not. Has he done. Is he done well for football? No. Has he done well out of football? Oh, you better believe you're done well out of football. Yeah. Right. So I don't think he's walking away from being president of FIFA. Anytime soon. Unless. If something else comes up. It won't be his. Unless he. He'll. He won't. It's the story. But there's a hundred. There's 156 nations around about. I don't know for that exact number. And we only have. 65. Let's see. You got to go. There's 85 that are saying we want to miss. See he's toast. I hope you're right. Because I want them. Yeah. So that was my World Cup. I. I. I stand by whatever you never. No, I didn't. I didn't enjoy it. I mean, I. A couple of things that struck me. The expectation that sadly Harry came would run out of juice. He did. He does in every major tournament. I don't know what happens. No, me. The big games at the end is in consequential in. And I've always said England will win nothing with that clowning goal. Excuse me. You're talking about Evans. I am the better goalkeeper has been bought by Conventry during this summer. And he will be. I'm number one in 18. I'm trying to think back. What did he do that he. That any other goalkeeper? What did he like? I can't tell you to any other. I just stand by whatever was said. No, but he's no no no. You're not picked for the nothing wrong to cost England. I'm not saying he costs England. I'm saying he's not reliable enough. No, I'm not solid enough. He's not he is he's he's no color rush with his a better goalkeeper now now. Now that he's gone to Conventry for 22 million. I'm delighted. Is that the one you had in law and last year? Is that the one? You mean England's number one? Boy, it's about now. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, he's a top keeper. Now, the one thing I hated about the World Cup more than any other single thing, right? Keepers with their foot on the ball. No. I hate that as well. What? Let's have a hydration break. Oh, of course. There's an inevitability. No, but it's sorry. What we do in your game? It's another infancy noise on it. Yes, but you and I are not in a position to complain about. It's a change within football too. Not the sale of football, but change within football. We just want to change football. Of course we did. We didn't choose to kick off the half time. Sorry, second. We didn't change the kick off from three o'clock Saturday to four o'clock Saturday. And Monday, and it's two o'clock. And Monday, and it's two o'clock now. Of course, two o'clock now. We destroyed your career. And others like you. We destroyed Jimmy Greaves career. We did because we football. And we were we made that decision. I know. No matter how much you say, I know it was not. I was we made. I never made that decision. We made that decision. We goaded into it. Road football off prior to 1992. I used to sit in front of a statistic. When the race morning could get off. Because you did. I sat in front of statistic Liverpool versus Manchester United. Previous meetings. Three. Three. And you. One. One. One. something that should be corrected. Alan Shear would agree by that. I turn 60 goals in the Premier League. I'm 33 for Southampton that aren't counted. Yeah, counted. No one mentions those goals. We have to somehow encourage our people to say no, no, no. It's best effort. It's a best effort. So We never altered the fabric of the 90 minutes. Well, we never. We never. We never read. Zoya. Oh, how? I still watch the game of two halves. I still watch the game at last in 90 minutes. Now, I'm watching the game of four quarters. Yeah, you are. You get used to it. No, no chance. They won't vote that in. That won't come in the Premier League. Sorry, we'll go over. Let's just go to Coventry and December when you're playing, whoever. Right? It's Pessendomary and Coventry because it does a lot. And you're having a hydration break after 22 and a half minutes. In my mind, I'm a hydration break. Yeah, we have fitness. No, listen, I don't disagree with you. What I'm saying is we leave ourselves wide open. Let's do this. No, football. Right? By the way, what's that on your head? No, I don't worry about it. Sorry, it's just as clear. No. It's clear. For someone that had a lot of football holes, you've got some damage that I have. I've got low door in the house. Yeah, I've got a low door in the house. Anyway, talk about heads. Yeah. It's just a new trademark because of the last three months. All I've seen you with has a heart one. Have you ever done it again? No. No, I haven't. I haven't yet. Get back. No. I've done it. No. I do intend to. Where are you going back to the British hair clinic? Yeah, to get further treatment. And isn't that an hour of TV's harriest man? I know. You're getting that. No one would believe that. I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. No, I tell you what I like this for, Andy, genuinely, I find it as a cover in this heat. I now know why there was old zephas in the 60s. Remember that they had those over the windscreen at the front there. The shoe. Ah, that's your thing. I do remember that thing. And so that's my shield. And it was there for your dirty eye. Zephas, oh yeah. All those. That was almost a hair. Quite good. Van Guards and all of the cars you drove. How you sure? I couldn't afford the car back then. And almost in completion from what we've been saying. It is a strange but true fact. So I'd be interested in your thoughts. This season. Yeah. Is the first season. Oh, since 1992 that will start without Ferguson, Guadilla, Marigna, Klopp, Venger. And the family of league. Of all that grunt were in the Premier League season ever. I think I think this is the changing of the guard, isn't it? Oh, and don't you lose it. My taxi driver on the way back down here at you. Is the big Chelsea fan. I was talking about for the last few years. They've been a basket key for you, Chelsea. Totally. And. Oh, did you say that? No, I didn't mean to say that. Because you know you're scared of that. Can you edit that please? Thanks very much. But you know what I mean? It is a basket key. And. And he was he was talking about the season. And we've talked that briefly about it. And you say, no, I think Arsenal will be the team to beat. You obviously think that as well. They said. And then you say the part from that. Nobody knows. And I think there's an uncertainty around the whole beginning of the season. Arsenal are the team that have stayed pump, but have done nothing really in the transfer market. Arsenal, he managed that. Come on. Are you talking about that? Got handed pitch. I think they might need something. You got to jokerege your man. But what I'm saying is they are the team. He thinks they're the benchmarks. When they get to attack say in London, Texas, they know everything about everything. And he says apart from that, he says. There's so many changes in managers. City, Liverpool. Yeah. I've changed the manager. Newcastle, I've changed the court. Charles. Top. There's some of the other. They'll have to fill off kept. Emory. So that's okay. Villa, I kept Emory and sold everybody else. Yeah. Well, that's against all the two best players. They're going to be in the edges and tealiments. Yeah. They've gone. And that's a massive blow for Villa. And yeah, so I think it's a season of, I don't know. It's a season of, I think, who knows what we're getting. No, piss it. You think so? Yeah, I think Arsenal piss it. I think there were the best team last year. I think they have strengthened. I think they now. But you were the meat of ours in Qatar who kept every week. Arsenal fans. Arsenal fans. Oh, how is it? Of course. You see, yeah. Arsenal fans don't, don't. And even now they've won it. There's still a question whether they can. Yeah. There is. But I think they're piss it, Andy. You always said winning the first ones the hardest, they've, well, they've done that. Yeah, it was. Yeah. I don't expect to see much from City. But winning back to back is also very difficult. Yeah, yeah. But that's, that's what you're in it for. No, no. And I, I think they are the best. You know, there's, there's, there's work to be done by Iriella. Iriella, as we know. Yeah. No, I, I think the rest are all a little bit like last year. There's a lot of it to use the word transgen earlier. There is a lot of that about it. Have you ever seen as many changes in manager in the Premier League? As we've seen, had there someone. I don't think I have. It's a bad thing either. I don't think I don't think we have. I can't remember. There's many coaches. I hope going. There were changes. I thought that the game changed last year. I hope that continues that we move away from the tippy tapie era of Manchester City and Iriella. I hope that trend continues. But one more, one more, one more to answer to Premier League. It would be remiss of me. Not to ask you about about Super Sky News. Yeah. And the ability that you've kept Super Freaky Lampoff. I, Frank's done. And I'm. Because he's not. I've had a level somewhere else. I don't think I was a level down. No, I don't know. I think I think. I think full of nibbled at McKenna. Oh, okay. I think Fulham had other plans. I think Pocciotino was in the frame at Fulham until he resigned a deal and probably resigned because Fulham went their own way. The thing Abeler is a good, good choice, I think they've done well. I don't think there was, no, there was, it would have taken a few, could you get a Frank out, and I genuinely don't think that he wanted to leave. If a better job would come along, my advice would have been take it because, you know, yourself. There are not many times in a coach's career when he's really a popular, or beyond the wrong foot, so take it. But I'm delighted he stayed. I think we've done good business. I think I'm not going to set my store out and say we'll do anything. I'll take 17th now. You're a Sundayland? You're more likely to do your leads. No, I'd take either. I think we will surprise one or two, staying up would be a remarkable achievement. Frank is such a nice, affable, and by the way, I've always, always, people say, oh, he's finally found his feet. No, he did find his feet. He took Chelsea. People forget, he took Chelsea on Andy in the season when they were banned from off-road. I took them any champions. It took them in champions. They couldn't sell. Couldn't buy it. No, took them in champions league. He kept a bang-all on Reewitton team in the Premier League. He got on the cusp of promotion with Derby County. Took a commentary up and bang on me. The fella is done. He's a commentary friend. He's talking about he haven't been bang-alled. He's fabulous. Oh, I'm pleased you're still in the league. That's. That's. That's. That's six points, but I just. It's. It's six points, but I still have it. I haven't got beaten, played against Covid-19. Well, you didn't play. That's why. Who didn't? We beat Everton, season in, and Ernie Hunt, Donkey Kick. And then every time you came, we beat. Yeah, but Donkey Kick. Everton. I wish I'd still at school when he was Donkey Kick in Wallach. I would say. Every time you came. Every time you came, we would beat Everton. Even if we even had Ian St John's score or winner for us when he played at. Goodeston. I mean, how. Ernie, that was. Never lost again. Anyway, so you. In the set you now, then. Never lost. Fick a team. What for? To win the title. It's. I don't fancy City. There you go. I don't fancy City with Mariska. Asked us a good shout, and it's going to take Liverpool. No. United? I don't know what. You know what you did about that? Little Ketossum, a coin from me. I'm glad they've kept. I'm glad they've done that. Everton's there and the East may be going. I don't know. Who would be Arsenal's biggest contenders? I think United. I don't know. I think United, because I think that they have had half a season or more. I know. They've settled. Yeah. You know, I'm not an enormous admirer of Rashford, but I think he's a player. I think getting him back is a bonus. I know you don't like him. No, it's not. I do. I think he's. Shippard. I think there's so much more he could have done. He's careered and done. He wouldn't be the first? No, he'll be the last. No, he won't be the last. To know that, I've said you. There's so many teams there that I just don't know what we're going to get from them. And I think Chelsea's one of the biggest wins for me. Because whatever you think of them, they've got a collection of incredibly talented fruit wallers. I don't think we can deny that. I've added Morgan Ward just to the group. Fantastic fruit waller. They've got an incredible bunch of fruit wallers there. And Estalonzo can bring them together. And that's enough. No, you're going to see. That's enough. Right? And you'll see many of tried, better than Alonzo more experienced. No, what are going to make you do that's enough. But if he can bring them together, if he can, they may just surprise everyone. All I would say is that Alonzo went in. It is a viper's nest, that dressing room. It's a viper's nest. That's what I'm seeing. And he went into one. He got not dissimilar around Madrid. He was chewed up, spat out in three months. So I hope that. it goes better for him at charge. But as I'm speaking on things, there's nobody at charge who understands football. I mean, it's a joke, the way that that club's been run. It's a disgrace. It's an absolute disgrace that a bram of it was forced out in the manner that he was, that the money that he got for the football club sits in a bank account over here somewhere in the Docklands. It's never been paid to those that it was intended to go to, that he was forced out of the club and the manory was, is a nonsense still in my view. I do hope Alonzo can get it going, but he would be the only person at Chelsea that understands football. And that's probably why when he went in, he said, "I want to be manager." 'Cause the rest of you haven't got a clue. And they haven't. So maybe Chelsea. - Yeah, that's the thing they are. That's the saying where I'm, I don't know. I just don't know what we're gonna get. I'd love to think that Asin Velakud improved again, but I don't think when you lose, when you lose Tillyman, Zaless Tillyman's and Morgan Rogers, I know that, okay, the bottom couple in. Is it gonna make there many better? I think on the surface of it, no. Everton Moise has done a good job, but again, can I see Everton pushing on? Yeah. - Yeah, I can. - Yeah, but. - Moise with Moise over there, right? We had dinner in Docklands when he was West Ham manager. And we were talking about what he wanted. - Yeah. Not what he's handed. - No, from what he wanted. - From his life then, when he was coaching. And he had a, he looked back in that time at West Ham now. Fantastic spell at West Ham. And one thing he said to me that struck me then was, I was talking about what next? - He knew, he knew long before he was forced out of the door. He knew. And he said, my, you said Richard, you know my heart lies at good as. - Oh, always, always. - And for me then, there was only one venue. And when that opportunity came, I don't like to get busy as you know, but I couldn't resist the, couldn't resist the little bit of my, couldn't resist, he just he'd, wait for the, he just, couldn't resist just messaging and saying, now. - Yeah. - And typically David was, David, it's now. Because he previously, he was going back before Antioch. - Number of our shit. - Yeah, and then Antioch became available and everything changed their minds. But it was then or never. And I think Moisee's a better coach than every he has changed. - 100%. - I think Everton, I hope they understand how fortunate they are to have him. He is one of the good guys. - Great. And he's now actually, he's now, he's now our father. - I was going to see you must be your senior citizen. - Yeah, you have, you know, father of the house in the commons, can clock at one time and others. And I think he is now our senior citizen, yeah. And I wish him and I do wish ever to know. - All right, well, one other thing. - Absolutely. - And last thing. - East Midlands. East London Airport. - Yeah, is East. - One thing I was going to say, what ever Tony's have said to me, well, you tell Keezy to stop calling that, the David Dickinson Stadium. (laughing) - Well, it's, look, with, you, I understand, you know, come on. - It's already in your colonel and catar, right? - But in the back now in the UK, so it's, then what's it called? - The David Dickinson Stadium. (laughing) - Sadly, it will always remain that way. - Well, I'll try, it will. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm not a big enough sponsor, but with, and I, I, - By the way, I'm going to go. - Well, being respectful to the Dickinson group, by the way, I'm good up for the opening game. - Good. - Are you going here, also? - I am, I have accepted an invitation. I am very proud and happy to have accepted an invitation from Frank Warren to go to our stadium. - From the night. The Friday before the season really starts. - You should be there. - Frank is a, Frank is a really, I owe him a lot, and he put me back on TV when he launched Box Nation, if you remember. - Where did you really put your back on TV? - Well, well, well, I don't know that sort of thing. - You do know that story? - No, I don't know. You see, you put your back on TV. - Yeah. - When he launched Box Nation. - On the year. - We were at Talksport. Frank came in as a guest. - I'll rate. - So that was in that gap. - Yeah. - But he invited me to go to Arsenal, went the first game I saw when I left Sky. He took me to Arsenal, and is happy to ask me to go and watch Coventry on the night. - Really? - Before the season that I'm very, I'm happy to do so, yeah. - Well, I'm going to go up to the Hull Dickinson stadium. I hope. I'm going to tip my father in law to watch the game. We'll see you reading, Sharpe, hopefully, in other boys. I'm going to go up the night before and have a look. - And that's the nice bit. To go full circle, Andy, that's the nice bit. I'm happy now that we're back and that we can do those things. You should enjoy it. I hope you can get to Ibrox a couple of times as well. - I'll get down. - I'll, yeah. - But I'm happy. - I'm not very happy. I'll watch the sea over here. - I won't be watching football on the weekends. That's my time now, but I will be watching football at mostly every other opportunity that there is. So cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers, bro. Well done.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The conversation is between two football figures discussing their careers, including time in Qatar and their involvement in football changes.
  2. They express strong criticism of Harry Redknapp, claiming he tried to have them jailed and describing him as selfish.
  3. They criticize the recent World Cup, calling it one of the worst finals ever, with Argentina’s behavior deemed a disgrace.
  4. They discuss FIFA President Gianni Infantino, predicting his departure due to lack of support.
  5. They touch on England’s goalkeeper, suggesting a better option exists at Coventry.
  6. They lament changes to football, such as kick-off times and hydration breaks, while denying responsibility for altering the game’s fabric.
  7. The tone is casual, with personal anecdotes, humor, and a focus on football controversies.

Summary:

The transcription features an informal conversation between two football insiders, likely former executives or journalists, reflecting on their careers and the state of football. They begin by thanking their hosts and discussing trivial matters like teapots, but quickly shift to deeper topics. They recount their time in Qatar, expressing fondness for the region and pride in their work there, but note it was time to leave after 13 years.

A major theme is their animosity toward Harry Redknapp, whom they accuse of attempting to have them jailed and describe as selfish, though they defer full details for later. They also critique the recent World Cup, labeling it one of the worst finals ever, criticizing Argentina’s anti-football tactics and poor sportsmanship, while exempting Spain from blame. They extend this to FIFA President Gianni Infantino, whom they see as corrupt and likely to be ousted.

Additionally, they question England’s goalkeeper, suggesting a Coventry player is superior, and express frustration with modern football changes, such as hydration breaks and altered schedules, though they deny responsibility for such shifts. Throughout, the tone is conversational, with personal stories, humor, and a shared sense of nostalgia for football’s past, alongside a critical view of its present direction.

FAQs

They prefer a proper cup with a handle you can put a finger through, not fancy teapots or small cups often found in upscale restaurants.

They hold a grudge because Harry tried to have them put in jail, which they describe as selfish and lacking care, potentially ending with them in jail.

They loved it and consider it home, feeling proud of their work there, but note it was time to leave after 13 years, describing it as a transient society.

They considered it one of the worst World Cup finals they've ever seen, criticizing Argentina's anti-football tactics and behavior, while exempting Spain from criticism.

One believes Infantino will have to go because he lacks enough votes, while the other thinks he won't walk away easily given his financial gains from football.

He thinks Kane runs out of juice in every major tournament and is not reliable enough, despite being a top goalkeeper's counterpart.

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