Kevin Ryan and H. Foley from Are You Garbage Talk Male Cheerleaders, Sandwiches, & Dolly Parton
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The conversation centers on the NFL's recent addition of male cheerleaders and its "end racism" messaging, framed as superficial, performative, and alienating to traditional fans. The hosts argue that such initiatives are misaligned with actual viewer preferences—only a tiny fraction of fans would engage with male cheerleaders, and most would find the messaging out of place or absurd. They draw parallels to corporate campaigns like Bud Light’s trans-inclusive branding, which similarly backfired by appearing pandering and out of touch. The discussion highlights a fundamental disconnect: while these campaigns aim to signal inclusivity, they often fail to serve real audiences, instead creating division and resentment. The hosts also question the logic of placing such messages in the end zone, suggesting it’s a misrepresentation of societal realities. On a separate note, the conversation touches on Dolly Parton’s free book program, criticizing the narrative that low-income families can’t afford books, arguing that books are now widely accessible and that such outreach promotes dependency rather than self-reliance. Ultimately, the hosts emphasize that true representation and authenticity matter more than performative gestures, and that overemphasizing messaging—whether about racism or access to books—undermines the core experience of fans and families.
Alright, are you garbage guys, H. Foley and Kevin Ryan? They're gonna join me for a spirited conversation and also do the news with Andrew right after this. From Corolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, the host of the R.U. Garbage podcast, Kevin Ryan and H. Foley, plus the news with Andrew Hopson and now Adam Corolla. Yeah, get it on, got to get it on, no choice but go on. Yeah, man, dates you get it on. Thanks for tuning in, thanks for telling a friend. Henry Foley's here, Kevin Ryan's here as well. Are you garbage, of course, the pod and then the special? Yes, sir. Yes, soon. Which is cool. My pleasure, I had a fun time when I did you guys say. Yeah, you were great. I was in New York, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you guys are based out of New York? Yeah. You seem kind of Philly. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, very Philly. What are you talking about? Yeah, we both grew up in the suburbs outside of Philadelphia and we both coincidentally started at the same time comedy careers in Philadelphia. I saw, I've been seeing stuff on X about your new male cheerleaders over there. I saw that video too. The bird's got a dude all night on the pep squad. Oh, yes. It's a bad look on the internet for a lot for you. Get my agent on the phone. I would have fucking signed up. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. You. Yeah, there he is. Yeah. Let's go. I've convinced myself it's AI. I'm not buying it. Yeah. Well, but it's around the league at this point. Yeah. And, you know. She's killing it. I think so. You know, when you look at this stuff, it's like when they put, you know, end racism in the end zone. Or stop hate or something. Then they get a bunch of blowback about deadbeat dads and spousal abuse and shit like that. But it's like, who is this for? Like who? Who watches the NFL? It says I need a dude out there. Who says I need a dude or I need to end hate in the end zone. Like who? What? Who's the demographic? What percentage? I mean, I guess what it is is, let's just break it down this way. You. Life is one big restaurant, right? Okay. And then you just say, I got to figure out what the specials are. I got to figure out what's on the menu. Look, what are we doing today? You go, well, I don't know. How about for breakfast, we do a Denver Omelette special. Okay. Everyone likes a Denver Omelette. Look at Denver Omelette. But if I just go, what about an omelette with the giblets and goat come, then you'd go, I don't. I don't think anybody. I don't think people. Yeah. Who wants that? Well, someone might want, so there might be people. Yeah, but a lot of people like a Denver Omelette, right? But who wants giblets and goat come? And the answer is maybe, maybe, but if that's your way of thinking, then don't make the fucking menu out. Like who? What percentage of people watching an NFL football game on a fucking Sunday, eating pizza and drinking beer with their buddies wants to see a dude shaking his ass? What percentage? I mean, I'll be generous. 10%. I think that's a little odd. I'm generous. I'm being generous. I'm rounding up. 10% of eyeballs on that game would be interested in seeing a dude shaking his taint on TV. Fine. 10%. Now, there's a 90% that doesn't want it. Uh-huh. And then let's get to end hate or end racism in the end zone or take a knee, Colin Kaepernick. What percentage of people watching this want this? I think it might be a thing to get new viewers. Yeah. They're going. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, there's no ladies here. I don't know. Is that a thing the ladies would get into? Probably not. If I think about it, but I don't know if I would equate it to goat com, it's a male cheerleader. Okay. Let's let's put it. I guess. Let's put it to you this way. Well, we'll do this. We'll go. All right. You're right. You're right. Spanish. Spanish. I hate those versus. All right. Denver. I love it. Western. I love it. Who loves a Denver omelette and hates a Spanish omelette? That's the same guy. No. It's just salsa and chorizo or it's like sausage and salsa and cheese. Okay. Okay. Now, let's get back. All right. Let's get back to this. All right. Forget about giblets and goat com. Okay. That's a good name for a morning radio show. That's what we should change. Are you going to back to giblets and goat com? Sure. All right. Let's go. All right. Let's go. First year argument. No. I'm saying this. I'm saying this. I'm saying this. All right. I'm going to say this. Let's say we're making out specials for our diner for the breakfast. All right. All right. We got this is the only way you can get a Spanish omelette. He's like, oh, what can I. How can I give these. I need a lot of political takes. These guys have been. They know around the way around a greasy spoon. Let's say you have cottage fries versus new potatoes. What's new potatoes? So you guys. Oh, you guys. You're so blessed. You're so blessed. You've been out in LA too long. You're so blessed. New potatoes. New potatoes. You have, you know, all you know is hash brown. Steak fries. Waffle fries. And I'm talking breakfast. Tater tots. Hash browns. Yeah. Yeah, I know hash browns. Okay. But you don't know new potatoes. No. Hit us. A breakfast potato. You're blessed. Why? You don't like it? That's for breakfast. That's all you should know. You'll need anything more. You don't need. I forget. I even said new potatoes or breakfast potatoes. And again. How are you thinking about this? You're, you know, I feel about you guys not knowing that it'd be like if you talked to someone you went, man, the Holocaust was horrible. And they went, the what a cost. And you went, oh, you're so blessed. You're so blessed. You're so blessed. And they go, tell me what this Holocaust is and you have no, I don't even need to put that on. I'm not going to do it. Is that a Ridley Scott movie? All right. Let's get rid of the giblets and the goat come. Okay. All right. Let's just say we're doing a breakfast joint. Okay. And we're going to go with the familiar Denver omelette. Okay. But then I go, I got an idea of doing an omelette with leeks and feta cheese. And someone goes, I don't, I don't think that many people want a leek and feta cheese omelette. And I go, yeah, but somebody's going to want it. But your job is to sell omelettes. You can't do one that is small percentage of people want. You need to, you need to, you need, and then I would go, well, maybe we'll attract people who want leek and feta cheese. Sure. I don't know that there's that many people out there that want that is, is my argument. I don't think this brings any but more eyeballs to an NFL game, just like end racism, just like Bud Light and their trans, whatever. So I think it angers you think it's more virtue signaling is that it is, and I think it pisses off your base. I mean, there's a huge, you know, case study for that, of course, with the Bud Light, all that stuff. I think it gives that guy or these gentlemen an opportunity to do something they've always wanted to do. You know what I mean? And I understand what you mean, but I think that I'm a better than leek man. Yeah. He's a homosexual, he's saying it gives that guy something he's always wanted to do. That's the rationale. Partly? Yeah. Like, why can't they do it? If it brings in a new audience? I, well, we haven't established it's bringing in a new audience though. I think it may be pissing off more of your base than everything has to be. So there's a calculation. How much tranny love on Bud Light is going to bring in a new audience versus drive out old audience? By the way, if you can bring in more new than you drive out old, then I would do it. Yeah. I don't think that was their intention. I thought that they were just trying to, you know, be inclusive to everybody. Right. But at what cost is you? You're saying, well, how many new eyeballs is the NFL going to get with male cheerleaders versus pissing off the base? I think in this short term, listen, as as many billions of dollars are at stake here for the NFL, they've probably ran. I would assume, you know, in the short term, yeah, like my uncle, Dan, would be like, this is fucking it. Turn his, turn his position off, right? But the younger generations will view it as more. I think they're, they're playing, they're not playing it like what's going to happen to younger people. What's not what's going to happen? Why would it draw on younger viewers? Because the younger, I mean, you even know by the generation of more well, you know, I mean, I'm accepting of the gay lifestyle. I don't want to see a guy getting clogged on the 50 yard line. I hear that drawing again. The last five minutes, though, but you're not. So you're saying it's going to draw more people, younger people. I think in the future, I think they're going like, hey, we're looking 10 years down the road is more and more younger people, stop playing football, the head injury is more less parent. It's, they should, they should, they should, they should be more popular. And if they started on this 25 years ago, then we'd have those people in. Maybe I don't know. This is just a theory. No, a rough theory. I didn't, you know, I don't think, see, my theory is, I don't think they have a theory. I think they just could be what theory did Bud Light have.
I think they're huge company. What was their theory like they must have planned it out? I mean also if you zoom out to now, it's like I think they're bigger than ever at this point. Yeah, I think they were trying to be inclusive, I think it whether it worked or didn't work or backfired or didn't backfired. It's like they got a lot of promotion for a year and now it's like everybody's back to drinking but light. But they didn't want they were down like 30% for a long time. Well, they don't want it, it's why they didn't want it. Are they wishing it never happened? Sure. I get that. I don't, I mean, I don't know. I don't, I wasn't in any of the meetings but, you know, maybe they don't, maybe the NFL doesn't have any. So overall, you think it'll be a good thing for the NFL, but down the road. I think maybe that's what they think. I don't know. I get what you're laying down, you know what I mean? And I get what you're saying that it's going to be right. You obviously don't like it. I don't care. I just think I don't like pandering. I don't like the pandering part. I don't like the end racism because it makes it seems like we have a racism problem. So they write in the end zone and then we have to think about racism while watching a black guy's play football game. Like I just think it's pandering. Sure. That's what I'm saying. But isn't there a sort of unnecessary? There's male cheerleaders at every stage of football. You know, I mean, in high school, there is in college, there is except professional sports. So it's like, it's not that crazy. It's not like there's only one in the world. I mean, every college football team has like 10 dudes. I get that this one's outwardly homosexuals. Well, it's not the male cheerleader isn't a new idea. No, it's like a hundred years old. Bud Light is not fully recovered from the backlash. Fallen in 2023, professional campaign is transgender in Florida. There's no way. We got to watch out the computer fucking get you all right. So, but now we have to draw the difference. Male cheerleaders go back a hundred years, but there were called like on the PEP squad or something like that. But there weren't male cheerleaders and now we're getting. We're now we have to divide divine weather. We want the dudes with the big arms that are holding the chicks up on the side or the guy shaking their ass on the field. That's what we're saying. So what do you think? I mean, whatever they want to do. Yeah, we don't do it. It doesn't really bother me. Yeah, we don't give a shit. Yeah, it really doesn't bother me. I get I get the argument. I get the argument of, you know, the people that are against it say the core base. You know, I mean like a lot of a lot of a lot of guys. I know probably what you would represent. That's the point you're coming from bothered by it. I'm bothered by the pandering part of it. Like the fact that well, let's go to end racism. I don't like it. Okay. Now I don't I don't care. I just don't like it because I think they're pandering. I don't think we have a problem with racism. I don't think they ever cared about racism. They have a league that's 70% black. There appears to be no racism in their league. Why are they putting that in their end zone? I'll give you that their reasons for doing it are probably financial and and whatever, but it's still a good message. Well, what about use your turn signal? I mean, so a good message is a lot of a lot of talking about Asians. All right, here we go. We can we can put everything in the end zone, right? Sure. I understand Bousel abuse or whatever, you know, kids out of wedlock. I mean, you can put whatever you want in the end zone, right? I think what it comes down to is word is in hate. Where do you come down on end hate? That sounds vague. I think it's just one of those things that you got to roll with it a little bit. You know, I mean, let it, you know, let, you know, let them do what they want to do. I know, I know, I know it's annoying to, you know, the base and all that kind of stuff, but it's the intention is right. It's there. The Germans said the same thing in 1940. So end hate is just the good, basic thing that might pay some dividends down the road. Yeah. And we know someone may be watching it who's hateful. No, I don't decide to anybody. Well, why put it there to show where they stand that they're, that they're, you know, not about that, you know, maybe makes the, the players who, the African-American players, who have experienced racism feel, feel, feel better about it. They need to add a letter to NFL. The national football league, not the national football league against hate. Yeah, I mean, they can argue it for basketball and baseball. Yeah, they should just, my whole thing is, I just want to play football. I don't like all the ancillary stuff, but I think I understand that. I don't believe they're into whatever they're saying, it's become. Yeah, I understand that. That's my thing. I don't care about racism. I don't care about hate. I don't care about male cheerleaders. I care about being foisted while we're trying to enjoy the game. I understand, I understand that point of view. All right, what's that? Speaking of, you're also talking to the two guys who could be more ill prepared, these conversations, you had me at Denver, um, we were cooking. Henry and Kevin, let me ask you a question. Yeah, they're a visceral reaction when you're watching a football game. And then the, the screen cuts to a skinny dude dancing seductively on the sideline. No, no, there's no visceral reaction. You would look at that and go, that is normal. I don't think it's normal, but it normal is you didn't define. You said visceral reaction versus normal, I would say it's a male cheerly. I would go, oh, that's silly. If you go to Broadway show and there's guys dancing, do you have a visceral reaction? First off, if you go to Broadway show, that's a different crowd. It's a performance. Do you buy a ticket and you go to Broadway show because you're like Tommy tune. If you're watching a football game, you're just watching a football game. You're not, you're, you're probably not going to a Broadway show. But you get a Broadway show at a football game. You say you can't enjoy a Broadway show. If you like, if you like, if you like the NFL, I think that's your, you're, you're, you're putting people into a into a bottle there. I'm sure it's funny. You guys, I enjoyed kinky boots, I should say. I will put it this way. I don't, I like a Broadway show and have seen this I got. But I will put it to you this way. I don't know the schedule for Broadway, but I'll bet you, I'll bet you on a Sunday during the NFL playoffs, the Broadway matinee's are sold out. So I wouldn't go because most football guys will go, I'm watching the playoffs. Right. But, but the Broadway theater would still be crowded. Okay. And I would argue, this long as we're talking demographic, the Broadway show group is not comprised in any way of NFL watchers, although there could be something in there, but it's a lower demographic. Yeah. But you can't say cheerleaders like you can't go, this has been going on for 100 years. There's college, yeah, the college guys at Alabama are doing a push up for every point they score and throwing chicks over their head and doing that kind of stuff. This is not that. So you think it was that, it's not a, they're not being masculine. They're there, that they're, yes, they're joining the ranks of the female cheerleader versus the old school. What, you don't dance? You don't go to a wedding and shake it up a little bit. The question. You ever stood around this. I wish I was old enough. That was the best time ever. No, it isn't you being drunk at a wedding. It's you performing in front of 80,000 people. That's what we're talking about. Not dancing. It's not a Kevin Bacon type situation here. Yeah, I guess I, I mean, like to to the his point, like it comes on. And I guess I don't have a volatile role. You know, I think reaction to it. I just go, me and my boys will go. It's fucking that look at that silly that guy shaking his ass. I go, yeah, and I get the messaging of it and them doing it. I was just. I also, it wouldn't attract me from the game. No, yeah, and I know it breaks tradition, but I think as the majority, it's slightly more important for the people who felt underrepresented to feel represented in that situation. And it's not really hurting anybody. Who do you think? But what representation is possibly the gay community that, you know, finally, you know, they're getting an opportunity to do this. That so are we assuming this guy's a gay? Who that guy? Yeah, I don't know the gentleman, but he might not be, but he might be representing a certain section of the population. Show me again, let me give you a look at him. All right, we'll see another guy. So we're, we're assuming it's, it's the gay population. I think there's also something silly to be like he's in between two of the hottest girls. Yeah, we're all in your focus on the guy. Yeah, look at the two chicks. I got two sets of cans that I'm focused on. Hey, then, all right, but I we, I understand your point 100% I think it's a good discussion. I mean, I do get the idea of cram and it down your throat for lack of a better term at the moment is takes up to one of our uncles would say. Yeah, you know, I get, yeah, it's not, it's not the necessary, the football we grew up watching. All right, we'll move on to another subject. I feel like I'm sitting here with like a rainbow t-shirt on like, you know, like, what the fuck? Listen, I'm not, this is not anti gay, but it's the same way, it's the same way and racism is not anti black.
- It's a new shoving 100%. - We're getting a message ever where we go. I don't want to. - I mean, that's not what I'm saying. - That's what I'm saying. - The end racism, you know, is them trying to, you know, be, we were pissed this, we brought it back. - What is it? What is end racism? - I think they're two different things. I think this is giving somebody an opportunity to do something and what does gender have to do with it? - That's it, I think. - But end racism is different. - End racism, I understand what you're saying is, you know, these big corporations will do anything to virtual signal and all that kind of stuff. - Yeah. - But at the heart of it, the message whether what reason they're doing it is positive. - No, I disagree, no, it's a good thing. - Yeah, except for, it makes it seem like this country has a problem with racism. - Where the hell you been? Of course it does. - What do you mean, what, where it is it? - I'm not touching this with the 10th of December. I'm not equipping up. - Well, what, like in what sector? Like, what are we talking about? - I mean, I don't want to go back through history. - Well, no, I mean, now, we got it now. - Do you don't think that racism exists now? - No, not in any meaningful, I respect your opinion. - Well, not in a significant, not in a way that affects people significantly. There's always going to be racism. - Okay. - Sure. - But it needs to be like institutional racism, like policies, like things that affect people. - You don't have to take the day to college. - Why does it need to be that? Why can't just like the street level everyday racism? Why can't that be the message to end that? Why does it have to be? - Well, you're defining it, it has to be institutional. - But amongst like what groups? - I think probably a lot of-- - There are blacks, there are whites unblack, there are black all. I think nobody, you're categorizing it. I don't think anybody who's saying ended is necessarily categorizing it. You're categorizing it as like maybe white versus black, it could be-- - But like, how does it manifest? - And we understand that a problem is being thrown in your face on a Sunday. - No, I wanna know, my thing is like how you might have thoughts about Jews or Arabs or blacks or Asians or whatever. (laughing) - But-- - I've cracked a few jokes in my day, yeah. - How does it manifest itself, you know? - I don't know, this is the rubber meet the road, you know? - I honestly have no, I don't, the-- - See, I don't have a life where I experience racism, I don't really know, but-- - I think it makes people walk around thinking there's racism and that's detrimental to them. Like, I think you're agitating and angering like young black men who think that nobody wants them in their society. That's, I think it's doing harm is my angle. See, I think when you take a group and you tell them they're not wanted or they shouldn't be here or they don't stand a chance or that it's not a level playing field, then you would stop trying. It's a demotivator. So I think it hurts the group you're trying to help by convincing them that society that they're living in, people don't want them there amongst them. So I mean, I think there's mismessages on both sides and I think but there is a lot of evidence to say that. You know, if you're saying not now, but there definitely was a time where that was the case. - Right, but now we're talking about now, 'cause they're putting in the end of-- - Well, I was just being alone. - I think it does still exist now. Like with cops or like colleges or jobs, like how does it affect them? You know what I'm saying, like hiring. - I mean, you know the answer to this. I don't want to debate it with you by any stretch of the imagination. - Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's equipped with anything-- - Yeah, I don't know the answer to it. - I don't think he's equipped with any sort of fact or knowledge to change something that you, you see. - Well, I mean, it's not-- - That you have your-- - Well, I mean, is it-- - No, no, I want to. - Is it getting into college or is it getting into-- - I don't know. I mean, but-- - The job, I don't-- - If you're afraid of the overcorrection of that with colleges, yeah, I don't, I think you have a better chance of getting into UCLA if you're black than if you're white. - I don't necessarily, maybe that's not-- I don't know, maybe that's not the racism they're talking about. - What are they talking about? - If there's a white guy on the street that says something racist to a black guy, a Jewish person, an Asian person, that is racism, yes? - Yeah. - Yes, I agree. - So let's end that, is that-- Like you're going, it's institutionalized. - But again, we agree that they're just doing that to make themselves look good. - We agree. - Yes, we can agree with that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I also don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. - All right, but-- - Our podcast is about what kind of fucking ketchup you use. It's not fucking, it's not about ending racism of any kind. - All right, well that's-- - Anybody of any color creed back, or I can come on and we'll call you trash. - That's right, the army of garbage sets everybody, baby. - All right. - You go there and shake that accident, pom-pom. - I'll get your leaders welcome. - Let's go. - All right, let's talk about that. I-- - Fuck it, I like it. - I like it. - Correlation. - Listen, you can have whatever pin you'd like, but you gotta back them up. - That's all. - I thought we were going to talk about cars or something. - Here's my last-- - I took an extra close eye for him. - Here's my last statement. - And I don't-- - I will win the day on this with racism. - You've already won the thing. - No, no. - No, no, no. What I'm saying is this, if you traveled to another country, let's just say you traveled to Spain and you said I'm gonna watch a soccer game in Spain. And all over the end zones of all their soccer games, it said end malaria. You would then come back home and they'd go, how was Spain and you'd go, Spain was nice, but they think they have an issue with malaria. I think that must be a big problem over there. And they'd go, did you see any mosquitoes or get bit by any mosquitoes, or no one is going to got malaria and you'd go, I don't, no, I don't, no. But I guess Spain does have a problem. It would make you think that. That's my argument against end racism. - But you have to understand there are people that believe that there is a problem with racism, even though you don't believe that. - They're all over the place. But they're also cases of malaria in Spain. - But there's Spain has a problem. - Because racism is selected to something you do not experience necessarily. - It suggests there's a problem in Spain. Spain has a problem with malaria. It's what you would walk away with. - No. - But they put it in the end zone. - I know, but I would, but that means you would have to be in, you've never experienced racism. I'm assuming me. - Yes, I have actually. - Okay, so what does exist? So maybe that's the racism they're talking about stopping. - You just said, you experienced racism, right. - So yes, racism does exist. - Who was racist? - Well, no one ever argues that it's existence of malaria or racism. - I know, but they're saying end racism. You're, you're quite fine. - Right, I'm saying one malaria. - But it makes you think Spain has a problem, but they don't have a problem. - I know they don't like tourists over in Buffin, Barcelona. - I got you, yeah. Okay. - Can I hear your racism story? Who was racist to you? - What's your national, are you Italian? - Oh, it wasn't, I'm white. I was trying to get a job at an L.A. fire department when I was 19. - I was trying to get a job at B.E. and they said they're not hiring white years. - They said she, it wouldn't hire me on sole training. - No, I was, I was discriminated against a job at a, - Because you were white. - Yeah. - Okay. - Well, the fire department wasn't hiring white guys. - Okay. - Because they had a quota of-- - They didn't get enough white guys. - So they needed black guys. So that would be discrimination. - I think Andrew's probably been discriminated in the writer's room a few times over there. - Listen, I say we get extruded for this. - And we go full soul man for this without him coroll in the fire department. I will watch that. All right, now-- - That's what you're producing for it. - What are you talking about? - Now, back to garbage. - Please. - I figured out, it depends what your age range is, but you can define someone's upbringing, whether they're garbage or not, by two simple things. - Uh-huh. - It was, did you have a shwin, or did you have a huffy? - Ooh. - And did you wear Levi's, or did you wear tough skins? - Ooh. - And if you're a tough skin's huffy guy, you had a shit childhood. - Sure. - And if you're a Levi's shwin guy, you had a good childhood. - Yeah. - And that-- - That's how I brought it. - That's how I came up. - You had a huffy or a shwin? - Huffy. - Yeah, huffy all day. - Huffy and tough skins. - Yeah. - I think I was bow, I think I was huffy Levi. - Huffy Levi, so you were sort of middle, right in the middle there. - We were my father owned a construction company, and years it was obviously wanting to know what he was doing, but too good and bad. It was like, when it was good, it was-- - Respect that as it came in. - Yeah, when it was good, it was Levi money. - Philosophy, I believe. - And I had a shwin. - I think the last bike owned was a shwin. That was when I guess times were tough. - Was it a 10 speed? - No, it's just like a BMX bike. - Shwin made BMX bikes? - Yeah. - I thought it was all 10 speeds. - Lemme, here, I look, okay, excuse me. I'm gonna shed some light. Here is how you can determine one's childhood. You pretty much your childhood is how much did your mom love you? And you can be poor. You can be poor, but if you had a real loving mom, you'll land on your feet. You'll be okay. If you had a mom that really worked over time to make sure you had a good childhood. - I agree with that. We've also found it's not necessarily financial. I mean, like obviously finance leans into it a lot and the availability of money, but it's not by any means a 100 percent. - Your family could have went on vacation at Turks and Kekos every year, but did they steal the shampoo? Did they shortchange this? Did they do that? Did they do that? - No. - It's behavior. - I mean, yes, I agree. But once you made it.
get to Turks and Kicos. You're frying if they steal the shampoo. The question, are you making it to Turks and Kicos? No, I think it's more, I think it's more like this. You can come from a poor family from a mom that's really proud and doats on you and has that, that kind of mentality. Or you can come from a rich family with a mom who just fucking is drunk all day drunker and stuff. And why is it about you and pop it? Yeah, just always, you know, whatever it is you do. It's kind of in the tennis for her. Yeah, right, right. Then you're going to have a horrible childhood. Now, so there's also mama loving you a little too much. I've had a couple of those roommates and those guys are unrealistic about where they are in life. Yeah, I got a little mom. I was the baby and they, they, they babyed me a lot. The mama, the fat baby now, the mama who loves the, the son a little too much, the sons are little unrealistic about life. That's what I've, they, they've, I've run into them. I've worked with them and I've had them for roommates and they're bad because they don't, it's not reality on reality's terms. And what's that? So they like over exaggerating their, but like, what is the disconnect? They have a thing where they think they can do no wrong and they're the best, but society doesn't see them that way. No, sure. They see them that way. They grew up with their mother saying, right. And they feel that way. It's not going to love you. Look at that. Right. And they think they're going to be the leading man and every, you know, they think they're going to get every audition and be the leading man and stuff. And it's life just fucking goes, now that's not how we don't look at you the way your mom looked at you. And now you look at you. So it can be unrealistic. It's basically like a guy thinks he's a tough guy. Going to go fight a guy with cauliflower ear. You know, to be like, you know, sit down. Sit down. Sit down. Look at what? I got this. Like, no, you don't, you don't go. All right. So here's how we configure this out. If your mom loved you or not and how much she loved you. Okay. It's a simple equation. This is great. What kind of sandwich mom did you have? How much effort did she put into your sandwich? Because the sandwich is a metaphor for her love for you. How much time? How much effort did she make the best sandwich? Now there is Dr. Drew's mom, who's a shit sandwich mom. Like you just get piece of, you know, American cheese piece of white bread. Get out of my face. You know, school school days are on the weekends. What you just go over all just go over all sandwich mom. Then you got Andrew over there. I know, I know about his mom toasted the bread. What to go to school? I didn't say to go to school. I'm just said overall. But yeah, sandwich mom. Yes. The bread isn't to go to school. An extra step extra 90 seconds extra effort to do it. Drew had shit in sandwich mom. I had no sandwich mom. I didn't get a sandwich. You can't go lower than no. You go no. The next one is shit sandwich. Where did we get? I just went scrounged. I had meal tickets at school. I went to other kids. I would sit next to kids. I knew who the big eaters are and who the light eaters were. So I'd sit next to me. Nate Whitenberg, who went 80 pounds in the seventh grade. And he'd be eating a good sandwich mom. I could see him slowing down on the first half and I'd go Nate. It's this second half. Your mom didn't get lunch. No. That's no sandwich mom. Okay. Drew had shit sandwich. Where were your mom's? I was probably B plus sandwich mom. Good effort. Whatever. Whatever. Well, they were made with love. Like I would get a salami and cheese on white bread. I know his mom made really good bacon, egg and cheese is in the morning. Yeah, we're not every Blake. I don't know. We can't. She make a breakfast sandwich. She's making she still does a great egg and cheese report. There was love. There was love. Yeah, but she was also, you know, single mom for a while working. But it was shitty American cheese. It was off. But it was there was care and there was. We'll make it, you know, there's effort. Yeah, 100% effort. So what we got a sign in number here overall. I was like eight out of 10. Like out of 10. 10 would be the highest. I would say I'd say eight out of 10. Eight. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Folly. What do you got? I'd say an edit of 10, too. But with those caveats that, you know, it was off brand stuff. It was on brand. Turkey club. We'd be at 10 if it was on brand. Right. You know, all right. So, but the effort. The effort was that. Yeah. The effort was there. All right. So, hey, yeah, that's solid. She looked out for us. All right. That's good. Shopify. Well, I like running my own business because it keeps me in control of my life. And when I started selling merch, I knew Shopify was the site for me because of how easy it is to use. 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You have to view yourself how the world views you. Okay. Is what I'm saying. Okay. And if you don't, if you don't view yourself realistically, you're going to be disappointed. Like you're going to be, like I've, I don't know if you guys have had like the unrealistic employee, but like I've had the unrealistic employee, like they view themselves different than how I view them. Yeah, we've had that. Yeah. And then they, they're like, I remember, I can say a guy like came in and he was like, he demanded a raise, you know, and it's like he was doing a podcast. I was like, your podcast, now I'm not making any money. You know, and he goes, I need a raise, you know, like your podcast has no advertisers. It doesn't generate any money. How can we give you a raise? You don't make any money. And he's like, I know it makes money. And I'm like, have you, have you read a commercial in your podcast ever? And he's like, no. So he like, knew it. And any, and he's like, if I don't get a raise, I got to get out of here. And we're like, okay, I was with a business partner. I said, why don't you just let us talk about it. Excuse us for a second. Let's talk about it for a minute. Step out, then we'll bring you back in in 10 minutes and we'll see what we can arrive. And then the guy walked out, shut the door. And I said to the guy, how long do we have to sit here? So that he thinks we're actually talking about weighing the pros and cons. And he goes, I will give it like six minutes. Like, all right. Hey, how about the Dodgers? They're on a roll, aren't they? And we talked about that a second. I was like, Hey, come on back in. I was like, you know, out of a through much deliberation and, you know, with a heavy hard, we are going to have to let me go. Now he had a wildly unrealistic position. Right. He didn't look at himself how we looked at him. And you always got to know how the boss looks at you. Even if the boss is wrong, you have to know how the boss looks at you. I would say we were the opposite. I think we under we don't. I think we undervalue ourselves. Yeah. You know, I mean, like we don't, you know, but that kid you're talking about, I guarantee his mom was like, you should go in and ask for a raise. Why aren't they giving you more money? Right? Or talent that didn't? I don't think anyone of my family has ever asked for a raise. I don't even know. I would see that like in movies and stuff. And I go, I don't even know what the fuck that would look like. I don't know if I've ever heard you're doing a good job. Do, uh, Andrew, do you have that Dolly Parton book family thing? I got an unpopular opinion about Dolly Parton. Oh, what are you doing?
Get out of here with this guy. This is gonna be the episode. - Hey, God damn national treasure, just bass the way. - I like Dolly Parton. - Her tits were too small. - That's a shame. (laughing) - She started her book club in 1995. - I don't know, she had a book club. - Oh, what? - Everybody's gonna take underprivileged kids. - Oh, look at that. - Oh, you got a problem with that. - I do. I got a problem. - I got a problem with that. - She's a great girl. I've become a decap. - Some people like to watch the world burn. - No, no. - Do you own like 40 cars? - Yes. - But Dolly-- - I want the books. - Dolly hasn't given me any of them. What I'm saying is this. She started this book club in '95. - Okay. - Noble, and it's she being eulogized. Every time they talk about her, she's, they talk about the philanthropy, the book. - Right. - The books. - Right. - All right, I would argue in 2026, books are essentially free at this point. Nobody needs a free book. Books are ubiquitous. You can get one anywhere. - Is it true? - I don't know. - There's nothing that is stopping a poor family from owning a book at this point. I would also say clothing is, clothing kind of used to be expensive when I was a kid. It's kind of almost free now. Like, shit's all over the place. It's almost free. Like in a world where-- - I kind of get it. - You can get Amazon basic t-shirts for like $3.99. - Minimum, okay. Minimum wage is $16.18 and you get a t-shirt for four bucks. - Like, you know, it's almost free. - I'm making up the four bucks. - Five. - Okay. - A subway six inch sub is more expensive than a book. You can go to Amazon, get any used book you want for $3.99. - We talking to it because I like their tuner. - That might make sense, especially I don't know, but with everything digitalized too. Like, on an eye, I'm sure you can get-- - We don't, we no longer need to give people free books. There's libraries everywhere. You can go to Amazon and get used to whatever. There's no barrier to entry to you in a book. There's no family that goes, I wish I had books. - I might be on the side of it. - But I can't afford books 'cause we don't have enough money. - Pearl had got this, got it, looks at me. - Hold on, did she give textbooks away to students? - No, she gives, no, she gives children's books away to young children. - Okay, for people to encourage them to read and to, yeah, maybe if she wasn't doing that, those, they're parents or whatever, maybe wouldn't have had the extra income to get them those books. It's encouraging. - How much income, I guess is what I'm saying? Like, is there a family that goes? I would like to own a book, but I can't afford hop on pop or cat in the hat. I can't-- - Maybe they can. - Financially, I can't. - I know, I get what you're saying. - But it's less than a sub sandwich, so then you can eat, either, then, right? - I think it also promotes, I think it promotes a better family dynamic as well. 'Cause it shows up every month. - Yeah, right back this, that creates-- - I got a problem with it. - That creates, like, hey, we read together, I, we read this book every night, I create a little something. - I'm saying, hey, this guy, I'll make you a sandwich, if you want a sandwich, what's the matter? - You can't play-- - You're playing a number of famous. - You cannot play the financial angle on this, that we're no longer living in a space where you go, I can't afford a book. Our family's too poor. I don't like my thing. - I think the case. - I don't like the theme. - How can it be the case if you buy-- - They might not be, they might not be a reading, it's encouraging. - It's giving. - If you can't afford books, then you can't afford to eat or have shelter. - What does this mean? - Can we get, like, the relative cost of, you know. - I've looked it up. - A Dr. Seuss book. I don't know. - A Dr. Seuss used on Amazon, you can get for $3. - I also think it's the time, it's the whatever. It's, you know, they go to a thing or they send it to the family. And then wow, they have all these books that they don't like. - All right, well, let's watch it. Let's, let's watch that, we'll watch that. Tax for us. - In the hands of children. Martin is the driving force behind a charity that distributes books completely free of charge to children around the nation. I talked with a singer, a songwriter, an actress about her charity work and what inspired her dedication to helping everyone learn to read. - She grew up poor. - Yes. (singing in foreign language) - George and Andrea Acosta love reading to their 16-month-old daughter, Violet. So when the imagination library launched in North Carolina. - All right, first things first. - First things first. - I'm sorry. - It's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be. - They're eating just fine. They're getting plenty of sustenance. This is just a family that the CBS picked. - You got a one-year-old has no idea where they are. - This point. - Looking at a two-dollar book. Okay, unnecessary. I'm saying don't do the expo say, all right, I want to hear what they have to say about not being able to afford a book. - I just want to tell you what I don't like about. It's the same as the racism thing. You're starting some kind of bullshit, narrative, underclass bullshit. We got two fat Americans here sitting in a nice, child's room, adorned with stuff animals. And you're going to make the argument that they can't afford a book. - I'm on, I, listen. He's got that pretty, pretty fucking bowl. - He's showcasing the good work that Dolly Parton is doing. - This is how you get socialism, people. - Well, I don't understand that. - You pretend like poor people can't get their own shit. All right, well, let's listen. I don't care a line, they sign so by a lot of-- - Don't worry, me. - Right when she was old enough to kind of start engaging in books, we got her first one. - She was so excited. - Yeah, she was like, damn it, she was like, "I can't have no idea that they got a book." - Okay, my first belly parton book. - You know, we just want to get as many books in the hands of as many kids as we can. - The program, which sends free books to children from birth to age five delivered its 100 millionth book last year's. - They get this book once a month. - Unnecessary, what I'm saying. - She started in '95. I needed it now, now, now, get rid of it. - You need to think, one need is that society needed it. - Finally, this program took off. - That was before Amazon. - I'm pleased by it, but yes, I have to say, when we first started it, it was for our Hunter County from my people. - She's still a 9-piece baby program in 7th County, Tennessee in 1995. - I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, she said. - It has partners now in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. And in 2017, North Carolina implemented it statewide. - And we have all one new candy. - All right, just fill the fucking bottle, Spass. People who find their own books, if they want. But let's get back to the family. - Let's just get back to the family. - Did you notice the bookshelf behind them? - I did, I was hoping, I was hoping there's like 500 books behind them. - There's like 500 books behind them. - Got it, got it, got it, for Daly Park? - Yeah, it's only a year old. There should be no more than fucking 12 books there. - It's a good point. All right, keep it going. - Really Cooper helped honor the singer and philanthropist in Raleigh earlier this month. - So it was because of my dad that I started the program. - Robert Lee Parton, father to Daly, her five sisters and six brothers didn't get the opportunity. - He couldn't read, he was too busy fucking. - I like to feel like he was going to try to learn to read as a grown man. It was kind of an embarrassing thing to him, I think. My daddy was the one that I got my work ethic from and his stamina and his intelligence. - Where'd your business sense come from? - My daddy, but he knew how to barter, he knew how to trade, he knew how to do all, he knew how to maneuver. But you couldn't fool him on money. - He might not have been able to read the words, but he had those numbers in his head. He was a genius with that. - Daly's dad, who died in 2000, helped her launch the imagination library. - So daddy got to live long enough to hear the kids calling me book lady. - He's still in over it. - What do you have a problem with in the books? - Let's hear the family, how to read. - I said his family's a shill family. - Are you going to do his son up? People think there's a catch to it, there is a robber. - Crisis actors and that means. - Here it is. - To be a costus. - And so marching down the hall. - It's such a gift to have. - You never used a coupon for nothing? - When you have a small child. - No. - Because there's nothing. - We have a little library, we have a dozen books for her that she absolutely loves, and we haven't needed to worry about how we're going to pay for that. - We've got this library. - We've got the books. - Daly's dad. - Daly's dad. - She's going to worry about how she's going to pay $3 for a fucking book. And I would argue, I think books are free. I think you're going to need a book. You can go get a fucking book anywhere you want. People in nice neighborhoods even put books out. - And they're long. - In my name, we had, there's like multiple book dropples - Yes. - Pickups in my neighborhood. - So some people take advantage of it or whatever. And I'm saying that family is. I'm just saying, that's your point. - I'm saying, is this taxpayer money or is this Daly's money? - This is Daly's money. - Okay. - Maybe I don't know if it's implemented taxpayers not. I don't care about that. Here's what I'm, here's what I don't like. I don't like creating a bullshit narrative when they go, these moms, you know, they have to steal because they need a loaf of bread for their kid. They're in a fucking Gucci handbag store, rip and shit off. - That's a kind of bootleg store. - They don't steal a loaf of bread. - I don't steal the books. - They are, we are creating an underclass who says, I can't get books if Daly Parton doesn't give me free books, which is totally untrue. Just like when we go, these kids can't afford to eat so they steal a loaf of bread. That is bullshit. - You don't know that they're leading a fucking mac? - You're going back. I'm saying, I told you in '95, I was down with it. I don't like in 2026, unnecessary. Go get your own fucking books, take care of your own kids. Do not rely on Daly Parton or the government to take care of your kids. That was in your kids. Go get books.
for your kids. She's doing something nice. - It's not necessarily her, it's the idea of it. - Yeah. - That people are taking a handout. - This because his mom didn't make them sandwiches. - Yes, I want you to take care of your own kids. I want you to make them the sandwich. I want you to get them to book. I want you to act like parents. I don't want to outsource it. I think it fucks you up and it fucks your kids up. - I understand that thesis. - But also, these two are full of shit. - They're full of. - I'm so glad, I'm gonna give you. What is, how much can you get used books on Amazon for? And I would also argue that I like a little wear with all. I like a little effort. You know when people go, some people don't have time to make their kids breakfast. - You don't like that guy. - Go fucking set your alarm half hour early and go make your kids some fucking breakfast. What do you mean, you don't have time? - I get them the effort. - The effort. - Can I ask you this? - Why didn't your mom make you breakfast? - Or make you a sandwich. - Well, fucking Dolly Parton said over a sandwich once a month and my mom is like, my work is done. She fucking tapped out. That's what happened if you have to know. (laughing) - All right, you can get cat. - I'm packing a lot of trouble. - I think my mom was just, my mom, well, it was kind of interesting. I never really thought about it. You can get a cat and hat for 360, I think you use it. Okay, but the point is, is you can't get a six inch sub at subway for under seven bucks. - What's with you and the sandwich? - I'm saying. (laughing) - You can afford it, is what I'm saying. - Yeah, because you go. - I assume that family's eating a lot of sub bucks. - I'll bet these two stop at Starbucks before they get the subway and you're already in 18 bucks right there. - I got you. My mom announced she was into health food. Now, if you're into health food now, you have to do something about it. Like, there's a lot of alternatives. You can still make a pretty tasty sandwich or tasty meal. There's things you can do. In the 70s, if you're into health food, that just means you're out. Like, we're not, what sandwich do you want? Meat is murder, there's no sliced cheese. We can't get wonder bread, that's bad. I'm into health food. So you just go, there's really nothing we can make or cook 'cause we're into health food. You can make lentils stew. - That's why you didn't get a sandwich. - I think, I think the, it was also kind of pre-sliced everything. You know, they didn't have sliced cheese. They had American cheese, but if you're into health food, you can't get American cheese. - What did she think you were eating for lunch? Did she work? Were you poor? - Then meal time. - No, she didn't work. - Oh, yeah, I got a meal ticket for lunch, but I would always go just m-mooch off. But the thing that's comical, is-- - So she took care of your lunch? - No, no, the school took care of the lunch. - The school is free. - The school took care of your lunch. - That's the meal. - That's the thing, I know. - I know. - And had a chocolate milk. - I know, I don't like it. - Well, well, well, well. - But the school-- - What's the school-- - He's having it with himself, I think. - Hey, can he, is that Bernie Sanders sitting behind me? Oh my god. - Is that Bernie sitting there? - The school feeds you slop. And that's the ironic part, which is the healthy food, the health food mom's kids eating junk. - Sure. - 'Cause she's too lazy to make the sandwich. - What'd your dad do? - He worked as a school teacher, basically. A special ed kind of, kind of substitute. Like, he was in education, I think I would say. Wait, your school had good lunch? - I went for a little while. I went to St. Nicholas St. Mary's in Wilkesbury, Pennsylvania. That cafeteria was a small school. That cafeteria banked back in cheese, stewed tomatoes. We did stewed tomatoes. - Stewed tomatoes. - Fantastic. - Really? - We hit the sloppy Joe's-- - Sloppy Joe. (laughing) It was fantastic. It was fantastic. But I know what you're saying. It was the 70s high school, public high school-- - The institutional life. - Probably soft, yeah. All right, where do you guys come down on this? I don't know if you try. - John Contas. - John Contas. I'm saying they picked the wrong couple. - I'll give you that. I'll give you that. - Give me a single, hit me with a single mother or something. - Can I hit me with a single mom? Yeah. - Is this something you saw on TV? - Uh-oh. - What is that? - CBS. - It was from 2017. It's probably been making the round. - No, no. You know, here's what happens. Yeah, you're right. What happens is when you travel, you have no dominion over the TV set. You turn it on in your hotel room. And like, whatever the fuck is on, it's just on. And then you switch a channel and there's Mario Lopez and you go, "Fuck." And then you switch it back. - First of all, you don't get to watch what you want to watch. It's what I'm-- - No, Mario Lopez is pitching you their new movies if you get by. - Oh yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. So I'm saying-- - Mario Bonville. - You no longer have dominion. You don't have all your shows recorded. You don't have your Netflix queue. You just have whatever-- - And you don't like that, I do. - Whatever's on. And so I'm at a hotel room in Tampa. I turn on the TV and this is on. - Okay. - So that's how I see it. - And it angered me. - You had a visceral reaction. - I ruined my day. I came out. I punched a maid. - Here at Tampa. - Which is knocked on the door. - Go hit the beach on the wall. - Cuts that are-- - No, I was angry. I was angry. - I was agitated. - I was agitated. - Yeah, all right. So where do we stand on this? Not controversial. Not controversial. I drove here, I went through a canyon. Now the canyons here, they go from the valley and they'll go to the beach. They'll go to like Pepperdine University or Malibu. - Is that what Pepperdine is, it's here? - Yeah, it's like that name. - Pepperdine. - It's at the ocean. - It's great. And there's one lane. It's just one lane going this way and one lane going that way. And once in a while you get behind the dude, like I did, he's got the full gardener's truck. He's got all the equipment hanging out the back. He's got the pipes hanging out. - Sure. - Just got a full load. - Hey load. - And this guy's driving a beater, Chevy, Silverado. And it's beat to shit, but it is loaded with as many pipes and as much tree trimmings and equipment as you can find. - Gotcha. - And we're going through a windy canyon. And I'm driving a brand new Tesla that'll just haul ass through that canyon. - Is that what you got a Tesla? - Well, they lent it to me. Yeah. - Surprise. - Yeah, it's a program that Dolly Parton put together. - I got whatever you want. - Rich guys don't have access to electric cars. So it came with a sandwich in it, the book. - He starts crying, that's so. - Mama. - So I'm behind this dude. I'm in a big white Tesla. He's got his mirrors and the speed limits 45, he's doing 28 because he's driving a fucking loaded sled through a windy canyon. - Someone tells you Mr. Corolla does not like that. - Now I'm up the guys ass the whole time and I'm in and I'm filling up his mirrors, right? And I'm driving a white car and the sun is shining. He knows I'm back there. - Oh yeah. - Now I'm not telling the guy to drive off the fucking cliff but we're coming to a lot of places where they have lots of room and it's not dirt or anything. I'm just saying drift over, give the wave. I'll just scoot on by no movement whatsoever. At some point I look ahead and I can see there's a row of cars come but I got a fucking window and I just like punch it, pull out, zip around, zip right. He doesn't move at all and I'm like, look, I didn't, it wasn't a near death experience but it was a little ballsy and it could've ended in a bad way. You're driving a loaded truck, it's fine. That's fine, you're working. I used to drive a truck. I used to have a loaded truck. I used to work. - Sure. - But you're going 15 miles an hour slower than the posted speed limit because you're driving a loaded truck just kind of drift a little to the right and that'll be my signal to just kind of get around. Why do you want me up your ass? - Finally, we can agree on this. - Yeah, I'm right there with you. - And I tell you what, I like the move of you fucking, punching it. - I'll tell you one thing about it. - I've got you a good driver too. - I am but one thing about electric cars is they are 100% torque all the time. They're just, they just go. They just scoot. Other car, it's why everyone falls off a golf carts 'cause somebody jumps into the golf cart and hits it and everyone just immediately flies back 'cause it's instant torque, it's instant torque. Whereas an internal combustion engine, when you go around, there's that kind of buildup. There's a haze where it goes, "Ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh. - That's what he does when he watches football games now. - Hello. - He's a kind of short short, so they're chicken to stale that. - Gilbert, so this is Scoots, which is fine. It's good, it makes the balls move that much easier. I'm just saying, it happens a lot wherever we are, the person's behind you, they're kind of up your ass, they're filling up your mirrors. Just fucking drift over a little bit. It's like, look, I ride the freeways all the time, it's traffic all the time. I see motorcycles coming up in my rear view. I just drifted over a little bit. - Let it go.
- Why, why not? - There's a lot of unions out there that come up the works for everybody. - What if we put this message in an end zone? - I think we would do a lot of good work. - Pull over to the left. - Just fucking pull over. - You got me there, I'm with you on that. - Yes, all of the fuck over. All right, so now I don't know what you guys drive. What are you guys driving? - I just got a new Tahoe, big, like a new Tahoe. I like that guy, I had a kid, I got the dog, I got the wife, we're fucking B-boppin' and scat and so I need the space. - That's good. - Cheeky and Cherokee, limited. - Whoa, it's limited. - Love 'em. - Is it trail rated? (laughing) - I don't know what jack offs they put that on the trail. - By the way, they ditched me that shit off. There's no such thing as trail rated. - I like the standard old school cheeky limited, that's me. - We're driving American, we're all driving American. - I switched over, I had a, I bought a used Mercedes when we first started making money. And hold on, I think real quick with the Dolly Parton thing. Did you notice, you noticed that was national? United States of America, she's promoting literacy in the US, you gotta be for that. - No, I'm not. (laughing) - I mean, it's crazy you thought you were gonna get 'em to concede. - No, no, here's, here's my, I'll tell you my problem. - All right, here, now. - You were driving that truck by the way this morning to see you know. Now I'll tell you what it is. I don't like equating education with funds and money. 'Cause every failing school system, they just go in Chicago, they have zero, you know, in 83 schools, 0% of the kids read at grade level, they do math at grade level, and then the mayor comes out and they go, we're underfunded. Untrue, you spend more on those kids per capita than they spend in other states that are doing much better. - Right, you've got a huge bloated fucking union. So you keep saying, give us more money and we'll get these kids reading. You're already spending more per student than 45 other states and you keep saying it's about money. And I keep saying, it's about parents taking time, burning calories and effort. I went to North Hollywood High. North Hollywood High had white folk, black folk, Jews, Asians, and where, I mean my white friends were shit students and we sat next to other students that were doing great. What's the difference? It wasn't North Hollywood High. It's not like they had tablets and we didn't have access to whatever. We all went to the same place. They had a family that was invested in it and they cared about it. And you giving North Hollywood High more money wouldn't have helped me or Ray or Chris or any of my dropout dumb shit. - Sure. - Carbaged buddies. And so I don't like the constant theme. The theme needs to be. - The problem lies in the home. - Get busy at home, focus. I don't know how much money they spend on Abe Lincoln's education. He sat by a candle and read every night. And we need more of that. So when we start creating a theme of like, there's this underclass and they can't perform unless we give them shit for free. It never moves the needle. All they do is spend more and more and more in LA and Chicago and New York. They just keep spending and nothing ever comes out the other end. I don't like the message. - Plenty of promises. - Yes. And this is not that, but it's connected to it. And I think that's why I have a visceral reaction to it. - I got you there. I think that she's just Dolly Parton who grew up or who became super successful because she's beautiful, talented and amazing, Jonathan Dolly. And then wanted to give back. - And I'm not saying people aren't gonna use that. - No, that was in '95. Now we got fat people's free books. - Isn't it kind of weird like she's doing it from '95 when you agree there was the need, but then she's just starting to be like, "All right, you kids, everyone's done with the loft." - Cut it off. - The cutoff is a little strange. - All right, let's talk about her song, Jolene. - Woo! - I feel overrated. - I hate it. - Jolene, Jolene, Jolene. - I think it was heard about a bank teller. - Yes, it was. - Yeah. - I would have loved to get a look at her. - Thank you so many. Is it a hundred and dolly? - Yeah, and she was 20 when she wrote that song. - Crazy. - I know. I don't know. - You see her? - Maybe Jolene. Jolene? - No, dolly. - Oh. - I'm making a joke. - Put on my mat, Jolene. - No, but I met my Shurona. - You did? Those guys. - The romantic stuff. - I'm still about the girl. - All right. All right, here's the poor. - Did you meet dolly puttin' 'em? - No, I never met dolly puttin'. But if I had, I'm gonna look there in the eye. (laughs) No, I'm, maybe Jolene, dolly puttin' was super hot when she was 20 for sure, right? And this chits up, and she's a successful song writer. And Jolene just works in a B of A in Nashville, right? So Jolene does, you know, she's not swimming in dough. I got a theory. People are like, how hot was Jolene? Maybe Jolene wasn't hot. Maybe she wasn't hotter than dolly. Maybe she was a thick gal, and dolly's man was a chubby chaser. - Possibly. - That's a more tangible argument. - More attraction-based. - Yeah. - Rather than maybe she offered a simpler regular life that she might wanna get out of, you know, like get into. But I don't know if dolly was dolly in the song. She wasn't saying I'm gonna war, yeah. So you think maybe she was just a medium-framed chick who worked at a bank, and this guy wanted a simple life. - Representing something that made the person in the song that died wrote the song about insecure about losing her man. - Yeah, like she was saying. - Let's be honest. - She was probably a smoked show. - I think she said she had green eyes and red hair. - She was hot. - Yeah, she was hot. - Mm-hmm. - She could have been thick, don't I, like that? - Mm-hmm. - I don't know, it was a while ago, but the fact that dolly had to make her a white chick, I got a problem with that. - Oh my god, are you kidding me? - I thought you guys would have a problem with that. I was just sucking up to you. (laughing) - I love how you feel like. You're actually talking to Mondami over here. Don't get him started. - All right, let me get a big fan, right? - Oh, I love him. I do have a joke, which is New York. - It's a good game. - New York had Eric Adams is the mayor. And I said, you know, when Eric Adams of Black, okay, I got elected, you know, five years ago, there must have been a handful of super mega Republican dudes going, well, can't get any worse than this. (laughing) Oh, they'll be begging for the black guy to come back. - All right, let's see. - Oh, Andrew's got the news. Let me give you guys a plug. American garbage, it's gonna be, the special's gonna be out on the YouTube channel. That'll be September 13th. - Yes. - And then of course, the podcast, always fun. Hope to do it next time, I'm in town. Are you garbage? Thanks guys, and we'll take a break. We'll do the news with Andrew right after this. Tacovas, anywhere worth going this summer is better and comfortable boots. Find your perfect pair with Tacovas. Tacovas, crafts, quality, western boots. For everyone, from generational ranchers, to lifelong cowboys, to first-time boot buyers, nothing makes you feel more badass than a good pair of cowboy boots. 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the Lahaina fires or and the well, so just to give you an update, it's been three years since the fires in Maui. Now, we're in a part of Maui, it's kind of by the airport, Lahaina's probably about 45, 50 minutes from the airport. So it's close-ish to the airport along the coast. It burnt down, the big fires you heard about three years ago and there's been no rebuilding since, at least along the ocean fronts from the stuff up in the hills, has been rebuilt. And so we're going to do a vlog on that and we just shot it so Andrew's going to whack it together and we'll get that out to you so you can kind of get caught up on Lahaina and then also the parallels between Malibu and the Lahaina fire out here. And there are many parallels and you kind of know what they are. And it's no coincidence that the two states and the cities that are unable to get permits to rebuild are also the ones with the most expensive gasoline because people think subjects like that are separate but they're not. It's just big government over regulation and burdensome taxes and regulation that prevent you from getting $4 a gallon gas like the rest of the country versus $6 and also make it unable to rebuild as well. It's the same government, it's the same mindset, but anyway. So we're in Maui. It's beautiful. We're looking at the ocean right now, seeing the wind surfers go by. The storm may be blowing in but so far it's pretty magical and Andrew's going to be doing the news highlights. We watched Angel the other night, 1984. She was an honor role student by day and a street walker at night and that is just good 80s movie making. I still to this day don't know why she had to be 15 and a prostitute. There's something about 16 which feels a lot older than 15. I don't know. I'm like, Andrew, you tell me. I think there's something about getting your driver's license that makes you fuckable versus being 15. You're still riding a fucking swing around at 15. I don't know why it's the difference between gross and yuck at this. Right. There's not so banging a 15 year old feels insane. A 16 year old feels like anyone who can drive themselves to your house and then you have sex with them should be. And I don't want the, I don't know the, the laws are in Hawaii. But they're plenty of places where 16 is fine. That's New York City. So I'm just saying when you make a movie like this, Andrew, why do you have to make them 15? They're in high school. Most of my high school years I was older than 15. Why can't you make her 16? What's the status of the, the Asian consent New York City is 17 years old. 17 years old. Well, this took place in Los Angeles. Being all that as it may. It was a fun, fun night for me and Andrew, not Mike August. He doesn't like bad movies. Andrew and I like bad movies because we have an ironic sense of humor. I, I don't, I wouldn't even go so far as to say it was a bad movie. I think it was misguided at points. I think it was a wonderful time capsule. That era of Los Angeles. You saw that TikTok restaurant. Yeah, I saw a restaurant. I used to eat at with my mom and my stepdad and it was such a treat. It was like middle of Hollywood, 100 year old restaurant and that is set menu. And it was like, do you want the turkey with all the trimmings? Do you want the fried chicken with the mashed potatoes or do you want like the Salisbury steak? And it would come with dessert. Like it was one of those places that came with the salad, like a fruit cup and a slice of pie at the end. Like you didn't order anything on the card. I'm just, if you wanted a full like Thanksgiving, trimmed out, it was a meal in the middle of May. You ordered there and it came with a slice of pumpkin pie at the end. And I remember being 16 and so starving all the time. That's like, we're going to TikTok. We're going to TikTok. By the way, this is me, this is me sitting between my mom and my stepdad who are the least conversational people on the plan. Like my stepdad didn't talk and my mom was angered by talk. And so just me, me sitting there eating as much as I possibly could, sticky buns, they started here with sticky buns. It was like kind of back when it was almost like cafeterias, but cafeterias from the 60s and the 70s. Like sticky buns, then a salad, like a fruit cup, the main on tray, and then a slice of pie at the end. It was awesome, but it was the TikTok. And I haven't thought about that place in 40 years. And she's running down the street being chased by a serial killer. They pass right by the TikTok restaurant from established in 1911. John Deel, that was the name of the actor who played the serial killer. He did a pretty good job. Yeah. He also played, I believe his name was Cruiser and Stripes. Yeah. You'd recognize the guy. He's funny. Halfway in the movie, shaved his head, and then you recognize him from Stripes, which is, which is funny. But anyway, it was a bad movie in the sense that, okay, movies, and then we're going to do some news. But movies have to do a balance. Like, here's how we have to do it. You ready? Yeah. It's kind of which we may watch again tonight. Yeah. It's kind of, we got to get Nick Cage into jail for eight years. How do we do it? Let's just say choked out his old girlfriend with some rough trade. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no. What if he was drunk and he was driving a van, he killed a Mexican? Like, no, no, no, no. He's a hero. He's a hero. But, well, wait a minute. Okay. How do we get him in jail for eight years? He's a hero. How about three drunken townies attacking with a switchblade and a parking line? He defends his pregnant wife. And now he gets eight years in jail. Yeah. Yeah. Except for nobody would get eight years in jail if they were attacked, jumped by three dudes with a switchblade. I know, I know. But we need him in jail, but we need him to be a hero. All right. This movie, you have a honor roll student by day in a street walker at night, except for she never turns a fucking trick. She never gets with one dude. You know, movie, the whole movie, the cops and all her friends are like, why don't you give up the lifestyle? Like she gave it up. She never has sex. She gets all gussied up every night. She goes out. They eat ice cream with a cowboy. And then she goes home. Yeah. The closest they got was, she was in a car with an undercover cop, right? And she called him for what it's worth. Well, she didn't get back to the room with the one dude, spoiler alert. And he discovered the body in the bathroom. Yes, that was a giant which also had the most aged line in the entire film where he says, if I find out you're older than 14 years old, I'm going to kick you to the curb. So I was not alive at this time. I have no idea what that's what he used to do. What this sort of fetishization was, but here's the whole point. She's the star. We're rooting for her. We can't see her didn't team their pulling a train because then we would lose respect for the star. So she is a street walking prostitute who walks the streets of Hollywood to earn money to pay rent. She walks the streets every night, but she never fucks one guy. No, it's not. Don't go in. Don't go in thinking it's a Nora with like a sort of a revenge plot. It was just an exploitation movie. Right. But then at some point, she's explaining to the commanding officer guy to the cops. She's like, listen, I've been with hundreds of hundreds of dudes. I've seen you out on 27 separate nights. I've not seen you with one dude yet. No. Anyway, so Hollywood movie making. Fine. I got, I got thoughts. Also, we got news. How much time do we have? We have time. We have time. Also, let's let's talk about the great, it was a great bully situation in this movie with the Jack, the Jack, the 31-year-old Jack. The 31-year-old Jack, who I said, always go by the locker and do the, you know how the game is played. Yeah, come on. You know the creepiest? That was the scoffer. That's weird right there. You know how this is played. I'm the Jack, and you're 14 and three-quarters, and you need to have sex with me. My favorite line was when he grabs his crotch and goes, this is why they call me Razzle Dazzling. Yeah, because by the way, if a guy who's not a Jack is riding a screenplay, where he has to depict a Jack and write for a Jack, that's what it sounds like. This is why they call me Razzle Dazzle. He picks a term from the 40s and then casts a guy in his 30s and pretends like a big man on campus. And by the way, on those like private schools like that, the football theme isn't [BLANK_AUDIO]
- It's like eight man football, nobody cares. - Nobody cares. - It's not playing, there's enough Friday night lights. You're not in love with Texas, you know what I mean? You're just in Brentwood and you're gonna fucking private school and you're playing eight man football. No one even knows who's on the team. - It was a great challenge in the early 80s too. So nobody even gives a shit. I played football in the early 80s, nobody was shit. - And then there was the great nerd. - The others always said nerd. - The start of the movie, he asks her out. She's like, I'm too young for that. Coke bottle glasses, think bad Ronald. And Andrew, if you didn't see bad Ronald yet, you better pipe up right now because we're watching that tonight. - I have never seen a bad Ronald. - Looking it up right now. - Mike, we're seeing bad Ronald tonight. - Oh wow. - Yeah, sorry. I know. I'm looking it up on YouTube, see if we can find him for fun. - I know. What's the plot of bad Ronald? - Oh, it's the best, man. - Oh man. - It's bad Ronald's the best. Yeah. I know you thought we're seeing true grit, but we're not. It's now bad Ronald. - And Mike's been warned. - He's very upset. - All right. - He's gonna be watching. - I'm gonna write down bad Ronald for later. I can't believe you've never seen bad Ronald. That may be the best. He's a guy who gets locked in his head, who lives inside the walls of a secret compartment of his house and terrorizes the women who move in. - Oh my God. - It's actually a great plot. - It's great. - Incapable hands, that's a great film. - Oh, it's got Jacobi, he's very capable back then. It's a big actor. All right, also when we went down to Lahaina, we met a surfer dude named Sharky. Surfer dudes, nobody feels better about themselves than surfer guys, you know what I'm talking about? I don't care how much money you make. I don't care how many cars you own. Surfer dude, old pickup truck, shirt off. They was up here with their shirt off. They always make the shirts off. They come up to you and they've never felt better. And they know their life is fucking superior to yours. Because all you're doing essentially subsidizing them. They essentially choose not to work. The ocean is their playground. And you just essentially pay taxes all fucking day and then die while they frolic around in the surf. But Sharky came up to me. - Sharky Maui on his shirt. - Sharky Maui. And he said, he goes, he's a nice guy, 50-year-old dude. It's shirt off, driving a pickup truck with the surfboard running shotgun, not in the bed. - I think I put his baby in the bed. - Yeah, so he goes, so I'm talking to a guy who lost his family hotel 40 units, 100-year-old hotel, passed down the grandparents and everything burned to the ground. The whole family, that's how they made their living so and so forth, devastation. So Sharky goes, yeah, as far as it affected us all. And I said, I said, what'd you lose your house, Sharky? And he goes, nah, nah, I go, what'd you lose? He goes, you know, surf stuff, wetsuit, wax. Like your wax, your board wax melted. A board, I think it's $7 for a-- - I'm not giving it up, sir. - Dr. Zog sex wax, his wax. His wax didn't make it through the fire. And then I go, I go, Sharky, these guys, all their businesses burned to the ground. - Yeah. - Your wax? - And then he qualified it, because-- - He goes, nah, nah, it wasn't just the wax. It was other surfboard-related stuff like resin. Like, okay, he lost a jug of resin and some fiberglass. Like literally, you're talking about shit. You can go to the home depot and replace everything you lost or the vial surf. And replace everything in 20 minutes for under $100. - Yeah, about anything. - Well, our 100 people died in that fire, but this guy lost a few surfboards. - He lost some wax. - Anyway, find him on Instagram. - Yeah. - Oh, oh, oh, oh, Riley, auto parts. 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This is coming out of Rockford, Illinois. Two days ago, a mother allegedly murdered her two-year-old son just hours after discussing the Lindsay Clancy murder trial with her friends, which she had become very vested in. I wonder, you know, there's a monkey see monkey do. There's a kind of a thing that I always think about. And I always give you guys the example, which is like Tony Hawk worked on a 680 for like 10 years and then he pulled it off. And then two days later, 13-year-old kid did it. Then before he knew it, there were 100 people that did it. Like there's an element of like they did it. Now we're doing it. Or we can do it, or whatever. I think women, do women have more of that than men, Andrew, meaning like a really popular handbag catches on. And there's a big line trying to get that handbag, you know? Where it's like guys kind of, but not so much. Like a Corvette's a really cool car. And I'm a car guy, but I don't want a Corvette. But this guy's got a Corvette, but I don't give a shit. - Yeah. - But I feel like women have a little more, like she's doing it, she's doing it, she's doing it, I'm doing it. Is that a-- - The potency of this social contagion. - Yeah, I think the social contagion hits women a little harder. Like COVID, I felt like it hit women a little harder, like the enforcement, the contagion part of it, like the psychological part of it. It hits men, but it is not as hard. - What would be a social contagion that hit men? - Let's see, do-- - You're well, you're thinking of the, during questioning, Walsh, this is the woman who allegedly hung her two-year-old son, told a place she did this to her baby because he was the devil and the anti-Christ. She further confessed to murdering the child for authorities. - I guess a social contagion that would hit men and women, but men would definitely get into, is like Israel and Palestine and kind of guys never said a word about Palestine for the first 40 years on the planet. Now they're really up into it. They're like putting the flag on and pushing people, like scuffling with people on the street. I mean, I guess that could be a social contagion that a lot of men-- - So that's the social contagion is men become geopolitical experts over our intractable-- - Yeah, yeah, shit that's been going on for 75 years. - Yes. - You've lived with it for your first 33 years. You never said boo about it. And now, the son, you know, son Piker's best friend and you're, you know, you're taking the cause up, like, although you've never fucking said a word about it before. And it's not like it hasn't been going on. - Yeah, that's bad Ronald. Read the slug line of bad Ronald. - I'm going to look at our bad Ronald. A 19, bad Ronald is a 1974 American made for television horror thriller. Ronald will be, is a socially inept, awkward high school youth with budding artistic talent and a predilection for fantasy. - That sounds like you. - Yeah, that's why I'm going to, I'm going to, this is my social contagion.
- And I'm going to go back to Los Angeles. - And bury yourself in the wall? - Exactly, yes. His overprotective mother Elaine needs surgery and plans for Ronald to become a doctor. - By the way, she was the Vera from Plan of the Apes. She's the chick ape. - Oh man, the original with Charlton Houston. His overprotective mother needs surgery and plans for Ronald to become a doctor and cure her illness. Ronald's father has not been heard from in years having divorced his mother and agreeing to terminate his parental rights in exchange for not having to pay child support. Is that? - I wish I could do that. - I don't, yeah, okay. - Well, it's so, oh man, this is just, there's so many similarities. She dies and he hides himself. She hides it. He kills somebody. - Oh man. - Oh yeah, this is going to be good. It's going to be good, not for Mike, but for us. It's going to be good. - Alright, so a Dabney Coleman placed a death. - Dabney Coleman. - Dabney. - Dabney. - Oh, Andrew. - Young, young, Andrew. There's so much you don't know. - Dabney Coleman. - Oh, come on. - Dabney. - Dabney. - Dabney. - Alright, what's the next story? - This is about your friend Bill Simmons, under investigation by the Massac Choose It's Gaming Commission's after admitting on his podcast that he engaged in illegal proxy betting. This was Simmons had his daughter's boyfriend log into his fan duel account to place wagers from Massac Choose It's while Simmons was in California. - So what's illegal about this? Oh, he's betting at a stage. - It's proxy betting. - I don't know. - Can we? - Yeah. - It's interesting because Massac Choose It's also where the Lindsey Clancy trials taking place. It's just, I don't know. I think we're probably getting to a place where you're sort of federal and state laws need to be a little bit more uniform. - Okay, I'm 100% for that. And we can start with turning right on a red 'cause I was driving all the way through New York last weekend and you get to a red light and you're like, turn right, turn right. So I know it's illegal here. It's stupid and then also I would get a ticket driving in New York State because I would turn right on a red 'cause I lived in California my whole life and you can turn right on a red. I just feel like we're getting back to the age of consent. Let's just go, here, okay, here's what I wanna say, Andrew. You're right. Southwest Airlines has opened this nation. There are no more borders anymore. We don't have a southern border. Southwest don't get you anywhere in five hours or less for $189. There's no longer, here's the age of consent. Here's what you can do, gambling. Here's what's going on with weed. Here's what's going on with prostitution. We just need to just go, look, 16, age of consent. You can start, you can buy booze at 21. - Or 18. - And by the way, 18, fine, whatever. Stiff, here's the point. They did it with alcohol. People used to travel to a neighboring state and buy booze, right? - Yeah. - Or fireworks or this. - Yeah, fireworks, whatever. - Right. They don't do it. It's 21 with booze everywhere now, right? So with booze, they went 21. With cigarettes, they went 18. Age of consent, they didn't. Right turn red, they didn't. We're just gonna have to go with gambling. We're gonna have to do a gambling kind of what we did with weed, which is like, there used to be places in LA where you could play, there still are, the bicycle club and stuff like that. You could play pan poker, you know, you weren't playing against the guy next year, you were playing against the house, or you weren't playing against the house. You had to play stupid rules, you know what I mean? Now it's just like, I don't know, blackjack poker. Who cares, pot, casinos, prostitution, gambling. We like it, it's here to stay. Let's just make it uniform and who cares. And then also we're living in a weird time when we have homeless people flopping everywhere. And like crazy guys have been arrested 86 times, stabbing people on the subway. But we're like, we're worried about Martha Stewart and Bill Simmons sort of simultaneously, you know, which look like a weird, like, how would you make a movie about this society? Like crazy, bizarre, random, horrible crime, and then also a lot of concern about penny-and-y bullshit that doesn't affect anybody that sort of rich people are doing, that doesn't have any concern. Like who cares, where's the victim and all this? But here, this is what I'm just Googled it. Proxy batting, which is what technically he did, is considered bad and heavily restrictive because it allows individuals to bypass the location-based laws, duck identity checks, and potentially engage in financial fraud. So, I don't know, use that. - But also, can he just say I was kidding. It was a podcast, like, you know, I'm using the artistic license, like I never really saw a bad Ronald. - Yeah, it's a character. This is a character. - This is a character. - I've never seen bad Ronald 11 times, for instance. Like if you were to be off camera, you're a vegan. You care deeply about the environment. - Well, I think I am now after the fucking sausage I had that was infused with Dr. Pepper. - Jesus Christ. - Wait, Dr. Pepper infused sausage. - The worst. - The worst. - Wait, who, I didn't get that. Who got that? - It's my fault. But thank God, Mike's here with Stone Pelican. He ate all of it. - Well, I mean, I couldn't fucking, I couldn't stomach it. - We had a tough time finding edibles here. I didn't know that there are. - I don't think there are, are there edibles? - All right, don't get it. - What's the next story? - Okay, well speaking of Angel, got a film-related story, Gal Gadot, defense starring in a movie with AI sets and lighting, because, you're going to work with it or be out of the game, the train has already left the station. - She likes Israel. - Well, screw her, man. - This is an interesting story, just because it's a new movie in Doug Lyman's Bitcoin. Now, Doug Lyman, I think, is one of my favorite directors, directed The Original Jason Born, directed Swingers. He directed American Made with Tom Cruise. - Yeah, yeah. - Super talented, dude. - Yeah. - So, he's got this new movie, which includes Gal Gadot, Casey Affleck, Pete Davidson, and Isla Fisher, shot in a completely bare-bones space. The film's producer, Ryan Kavanaugh, claimed that the 70 million production has saved more than 200 million by using AI to fill in the production design. - So, it's a $70 million production, but they saved 200 million? - Yes. - So now, that 70 million is probably top of the line costs, cast, and oh, I see. - Would above the line? - Or excuse me, yes, above the line. - Top of the line just means you got a really nice tennis racquet. (laughing) - How do we run out of time? - No, we're good, man. We got 26 minutes, we got six minutes left. - All right, so listen. I mean, this is cool because this is gonna scale what is a probably a mortally wounded industry, right? - Yeah, I'm with you. I'm just wondering, it's sort of like, you want to see, would AI porn, AI porn would ruin it for a lot of guys, but maybe not the next generation or something? So, and I think this is this way, what would AI do for stunts for you? You go back old school, right? You see the movie Pepeon? - Yes. - Thank God, one movie you've seen. So, and Pepeon, at the end, it's a big deal. Steve McQueen's character is to jump off of Devil's Island off the cliff at the end and he's doing into the ocean. I mean, it's like, goes in slow motion and it finds his coconut, sack of coconuts and floats to safety, right? - Yeah. - Okay, now, you're watching that movie and you go, well, that's not Steve McQueen 'cause they're not gonna take Steve McQueen and make him jump 90 feet off a lava rock into the thrashing sea, right? But that's a dude. - Yeah, and he's dressed like Steve McQueen. - No, there's no substitute for certain things in filmmaking, by the airport, by the way, if you want to know what that is. - All right, so with your brain is doing as you're going, that's not Steve McQueen, but that's still a 37-year-old dude and somebody did that, so you know. All right, now it's AI and nobody did that, so that's not. Doesn't that slow your roll a little bit? - Yeah, it's gonna take you out of it. It's gonna. - Yes. - Yes. - Absolutely, well, I believe there are a lot of AI-generated creators on OnlyFans, all right? - Oh, really? - So it's already out there, man. That's what I'm saying, like, the train has completely left the station. - Right, like, and there's also a thing, and there's also a thing like this, so it's like, oh, someone goes, Taylor Swift's got a porn movie and you go, oh, let me see that and then go, Oh, it's AI and you go out and you see that, right? So what's the--
the difference. It's not that. Right now I'll bring a trailer. You don't know what bring a trailer is, do you? Nah, vegan. No one knows it. You don't know what they were going to bring a trailer. Never going to bring a trailer. Jesus ran, you got that souped up Versa. Can't believe it. Yeah. Alright, so anyway, bring a trailer is a car website that sells tons and tons of cars, okay? It's a great website. Now, right now on bring a trailer, there's like a 63 Ferrari GTO 250 replica, right? And it's a nuts and bolts perfect replica of a Ferrari GTO. It's going to top out at eight or 900 grand. Let's just say that'll be my guess eight or 900 grand, okay? Well, a real Ferrari GTO is $70 million. So you can get one, by the way, it's exactly the same car. It's the same same car. It's just not an actual GTO. It was built 50 years later. So what's the difference? Well, the only difference is in your mind, essentially, the only difference is the knowledge of knowing that car is a $70 million GTO and that car was built nine months ago. Yeah, and so, but it's a big deal because if you pulled up in that car to cars and coffee, so one, oh my gosh, it's a GTO and you go to a replica and they go, oh, okay, I'm just walking away. Yeah, so I think we're going to get that a little with the AI coming up as well. And I also, that's what I like so much about Angel, because they shot it on Hollywood Boulevard in 1983. Yeah, that's what it looked like and and and the subject of Tarazo came up and I I kid you not some, you know, getting a star in the walk of fame was good, but having it made out of Tarazo is the biggest real in my life. And I think I told you that when Mike and I pulled into LAX at 1 a.m., like five days ago, they were pouring Tarazo and I stood there and I almost almost whipped five on myself. I was so fucking excited to see that shit. Yeah. All right, so let's see. You got to amcrow.com for all the live shows, right? I think I'll be at Kimmel's Place in Vegas coming up this weekend. Two shows Friday, two shows Saturday. Andrew, you got stuff. Yeah, I'm in flappers this Sunday. Let's see. I'll tell you it go to just go to flappers.com. I'm going to be with Jiggly, Jiggly Wiggly, Lisa Koushell. Lisa Koushell. Yeah, she she put me on her show. So I'm going to be there. I believe Sunday. I've met her at Acme Theater in like 1992. You know that? I should have said told you, right? Yeah. That was so crazy. All right, so until next time, Adam for Andrew and the are you garbage fellers saying Mahala. You can leave us a voicemail at 888-6341-744 and get tickets to CBA's man at atomcurola.com. Hello, and welcome to Pluto foal. Fantastic. The Matrix trilogy. Mean Girls. Side up. Titanic. And so much more for showtimes. Press nothing. They're free. 24/7. That is so fast. Press nothing. They're free. 24/7. Fantastic. Press nothing. They're free. 24/7. That's so fast. Press nothing. The Matrix trilogy. Mean Girls. Side up. Titanic. Press nothing. They're free. 24/7. That is so fast. On Pluto TV. Stream now. Pay never.
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Key Points:
The discussion critiques the NFL’s introduction of male cheerleaders and "end racism" messaging, arguing it panders to certain demographics and alienates core fans.
A central argument is that such initiatives are misaligned with audience reality—only a small percentage of viewers would engage with male cheerleaders, while most would find the messaging awkward or irrelevant.
The hosts compare these efforts to corporate campaigns like Bud Light’s inclusivity push, suggesting they generate backlash and fail to deliver authentic representation, often serving more as political signaling than genuine change.
Summary:
The conversation centers on the NFL's recent addition of male cheerleaders and its "end racism" messaging, framed as superficial, performative, and alienating to traditional fans. The hosts argue that such initiatives are misaligned with actual viewer preferences—only a tiny fraction of fans would engage with male cheerleaders, and most would find the messaging out of place or absurd. They draw parallels to corporate campaigns like Bud Light’s trans-inclusive branding, which similarly backfired by appearing pandering and out of touch.
The discussion highlights a fundamental disconnect: while these campaigns aim to signal inclusivity, they often fail to serve real audiences, instead creating division and resentment. The hosts also question the logic of placing such messages in the end zone, suggesting it’s a misrepresentation of societal realities. On a separate note, the conversation touches on Dolly Parton’s free book program, criticizing the narrative that low-income families can’t afford books, arguing that books are now widely accessible and that such outreach promotes dependency rather than self-reliance.
Ultimately, the hosts emphasize that true representation and authenticity matter more than performative gestures, and that overemphasizing messaging—whether about racism or access to books—undermines the core experience of fans and families.
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The main criticism is that they appear to be a form of pandering, especially to younger audiences, and may alienate the traditional fan base by seeming superficial or out of touch with the core football experience.
The hosts argue that both are commercial or symbolic gestures that may not reflect real issues, with male cheerleaders seen as superficial and end racism criticized as creating a false narrative that society has a widespread racism problem when it may not exist.
The hosts believe such messaging can be seen as performative and may backfire by making some groups feel marginalized, especially if it's perceived as a one-time political gesture rather than a genuine effort to address real issues.
The hosts acknowledge that male cheerleaders might represent the LGBTQ+ community, providing visibility, but argue that this representation is not meaningful or necessary if it doesn't enhance the core experience of the game.
The hosts use a diner menu analogy—like a Denver omelette being popular, while a leek and feta omelette is niche—to argue that major decisions in sports should prioritize what most people want, not just a small segment.
Genuine efforts focus on core values like fair play and player experience, while pandering involves adding superficial or politically charged elements that distract from the game and may anger loyal fans.
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