Kevin Burkhardt & Julian Edelman on Being Tom Brady’s Teammate Plus Patriots vs Bears Preview

It's Thursday and we have another great episode on tap. We're talking with NFL and MLB broadcasting great Kevin Burkhart, then we're previewing tonight's Thursday night football game between the Patriots and the Bears. Plus, we'll be previewing America's game of the week between the Packers and Lions. Let's get into it. He's called the World Series. He's called Super Bulls. He's part of Fox's number one game day crew. Let's get on Kevin Burkhart. Kevin, welcome to the Gronk and Jules show. We got to ask you right away. What ball are we watching right now? Well, I mean, it's a mix, man. You know, I got football on, you know, last night. What's he? Last night I had the baseball on one TV. I had the Niners scheme on laptop. And then after that, I went back and watched the Lions game because I had the Lions Packers this week. So it was just a a full night of ball watching, man. It was pretty great. Gotta be honest. Busiest guy in media right now. He's doing the World Series and he's part of the NFL Fox crew, number one crew. You got to take us through your week. Like, take us through your week coming up right now. How do you prepare for both of these jobs? I mean, I can't even like, I can't even watch college football because my brain doesn't have enough computing power to take in that information and also have to talk about professional football. You're doing two pro sports at the same time and having to talk about it. Take us through the week. So funny. I'm kind of the same way, right? But I think it's really just the way I've done it, you know, since I've been doing this, doing both in October, it's just finding the time to put in an imprep and making sure you're getting all your stuff done and then honestly finding a time to sleep and grab a workout. Like, it's really just, I literally structured my days where it's like, I, from like nine to 10, I'm going to do this, then I'm going to do this, then I'm going to, you know, and I kind of lay it out like that. And this week, it's a little bit of a reprieve because we at the NLCS, so that series ended in a sweep. So my schedule was honestly relatively normal this week. I've got Lions Packer Sunday and shoot down to Tampa and game three will be Monday. So it's super fun. It's just, it really is just putting at the time, Jules. Like, I'm a, I'm kind of a creature of habit. Like, I can't skimp on prep, man. Like, I just, I don't function well that way. So I just kind of find ways to do that while getting enough sleep and, you know, doing my due diligence there. But what's the workout routine like? I'm all weights. Like, I, you know, I try to go, I try to go three times a week. This is like my jam because then I feel good at it. And, you know, if I don't, I feel a little creaky and cranky. Even if it's just like, you know, crappy hotel gym, mixing something for, you know, 35 minutes, I just feel better, you know, just to get the, to get going a little bit. So that's a big key during this month for me. It's just kind of trying to have some kind of activity. Otherwise, you just wake up and just sit on your laptop for 12 hours and then you go to the game and you kind of rinse repeat. So now, have you and Brady ever done like bands together like in between halves or something you guys do like a little band workout, a TV 12 function or something? We, you know, we, we, we have, we have, we have a great relationship, but we haven't progressed to that. But maybe that's next. I mean, it's here at three. I feel like there should be some kind of, uh, you know, pliability exercises at halftime. We got 12 minutes. I think we could fit it in. I'll work on that this week. Jules. That's a good call. Perfect. Now, what do you think about this world series? Match up. Give us a little, you know, as a baseball casual. What do we got to look for in this thing? So if you're a casual fan and really haven't watched a time, but you like the postseason, a couple things, I think are fine. First of all, neither team is one of World Series ever. So you're getting a first time winner, which I think is awesome. Second of all, these were the two best teams in baseball, whether people realize that or not, it wasn't the Dodgers. It was the Brewers and Rays who are the two best teams in baseball, you know, really all year long in the American League and the Nation League. And I think if you're a fan of old time baseball, you know, before everyone was either home runner strike out or walk where people put the ball in play and steal bases and butt runners over and find a way to manufacture them in. Um, it's going to be a great series. And then if you like starting pitching, there's a lot of great pictures in this series. You know, Jacob Mizorowski throws 105 for the Brewers. He's insane. He's a six eight freak. And then Drew Rasmussen, who I randomly was traded from the Brewers a few years ago, was turned into an absolute star for the Rays. And he's been unhittable in the postseason. So I think there's a lot of cool storylines, tools. And I just like, you know, for me, look, it's always great to have the the dynasty and the team that are people are trying to knock off like the Dodgers and their superstars and love those guys. But I also think there's really, it's fun TV, especially for the people at home, when you find the jewels, uh, no pun intended, um, of the guys that they don't know. Like, you know, Jake Bowers is the NL MVP. And he is an amazing story. He almost quit the game last year. So I, I think that stuff is freaking awesome. I love that. Yeah, man. It's going to be very fun to watch. And I love that you're covering it because you always give such great insight. Now, what's it like working with Poppy A. Rod and Jeter? You probably know the answer. It is, it's, it's wild, man. It's like, I love them all, like so much. And they're all so different. But I think the best thing I could, I think the best thing I could say, you know, this is their, it's, it's like you, they're the same exact dudes on here that they are on off camera. It is the same thing. So if you had a camera on us, like the rest of the day, if you had a camera on us, like, watching the game, it is the same thing. Like, nothing is changed. You know, um, I personally love just watching the game with them, like, as fans. I think it's so wild that I'm sitting there with these three absolute superstars. And like, they're all yelling at the TV, like, I would if I was home watching the game. You know, I, I think that's the best. And they also just pick up some amazing stuff, like, which is really, really cool. You know, that a lot of times we try to kind of, you know, show that on the broadcast. So, you know, I remember, I remember 2017. This preferred Derek was with us. But it was the Astros Dodgers World series. And we're watching it. It's the first sending a game seven. And the Astros are up. It's two batters into the game. And Poppy and Alex, like, jump out of this seat. And they're like, they got dervishes pitches. I'm like, it's two guys into the game. And they're like 100%. Like, watch this next take. And like, boom. And then they explode in that inning. They kind of open the game up. And they win the World Series. So it's like, it's stuff like that, man. That's just so cool. It kind of be behind the curtain with them. Um, it's a blast. I love it. Now, what's a, what's a pre-production meeting like with Big Poppy? Does he have a translator in there to, to help with, uh, you know, I, I understand Poppy all the time. But a lot of people, you sometimes dexterity. We can't say dexterity. First of all, you know him. He is the freaking bass. He's the best dude. The best, the best. He, let me set the stage. He comes in, you know, larger than life shades on. And he smells great. I mean, the best smelling person I've ever smelled in my life. And then he comes over and gives you like a giant bear hug, KB, my dog. And then the rest of the day, you smell like that. So like, you automatically smell like Poppy, which is great. It's a great scent. Whatever he's gone on. It's unbelievable. And then he's, there's two kinds of pre-meeting poppies. So the first one comes in. And he's like overcaffeinated. And he's like, fired up. And he is like roaring. Like, I wish that was the show. You know, it's like, because we got the shows in a couple of hours. And he is flying. And then there's the second Poppy that comes in. And he hasn't had his coffee yet. He's a little bit back in the chair. And he's just chilling kind of taking it in. And you know, we're going through like ideas for the show. And he, you know, he says a couple things, but he's more low-key. And then they order the, the Grande, you know, coffee. And then we get on set. And about like three minutes for we go on air. It's like Corn Holyo from people. And by that, he's like, BAM, DB. And I'm, oh, here we go. Here we go. I love him. I love him beyond measurement. The guy is one of a kind. You know it, man. He's the best. He's, he's a treasure. He's such a, he's got such a contagious energy. Now take us back to young KB trying to get in the business. South Jersey Philly guy. You grew up a Philly fan. You know, it's funny. Like I actually, so I grew up in North Jersey. And then I moved down like, I moved down to Jersey Shore and stuff after, after when I, you know, when I got older, when I got out of college. And I grew up, football wise, I grew up in a family full of giants fans. Like that, like my entire family, we were in giant's territory. And I grew up, you know, 15 minutes from the metal lands or whatever. And for whatever reason when I was a kid, you know, like you're a kid and you latch on to something, they had these things called NFL huddles back in the day. So I'm 52. So you have to be on that age range to understand it. But this is obviously back for the internet. And JC Penny had a catalog and they had like an NFL deal. So that was like the only way you can get like NFL stuff. So I remember like one Christmas. I got like the eagle, like the bird because I love the bird. And then at that time, they had like Ron Jaworsky, who was a quarterback. So even though every single time the Eagles played the giants Lawrence Taylor sacked them, like no, you know, seven million times. But it just like stuck as a kid. I like the bird. And then I like Jaworsky. So I grew up like an Eagles fan in giant's fan territory. That's kind of how it all laid out. But my allegiances were kind of split between the cities, like growing up, I like the sixers because I love Dr. Jay. And then I was a huge med span and a ranger span. So it was kind of like, it was weird. My sports allegiances were like all over the map, but that's the origin of it basically. - Well, how did you get into broadcasting then? - I went to school in North Jersey, this T3 school called William Patterson. And honestly, I got lucky jewels. Like I didn't know what I was gonna do. And my grades were okay. I wasn't like the best high school student in the world. So I was just kind of planning like, what was gonna do in the future? I knew I love sports broadcasting. I kind of wanted to be in it. But I was kind of trying to figure out my path. And so I went to the school and it was amazing. Like, you know, we had a communication program where we had amazing people who were in the business who were like our teachers and who were running, like we had a TV station that broadcast every game we did. You know, football, basketball, softball, field hockey, you name it. And so I just jumped on board and started doing stuff there. And then I fell in love with it. So, you know, being that close to New York and having like that kind of tutelage from all these people that, you know, we would have a classes, like communication classes. And then our professor were going to produce to show it, you know, NBC at night. It was a real luxury for me. And, you know, quite honestly, I thought I was gonna go there and get my grades up and then transfer somewhere else. And then I went there and loved it. And so, but it was a great training round for me to start to learn and understand like, how they held the broadcast things. And so that was kind of my start. Now, who are your broadcast heroes when you were getting into the game? Who's someone that you watched that like made you want to do broadcasting? - Yeah, I mean, I had a few. I would, you know, there were multiple people that influenced me. So I would say on a national level, it was definitely like Pat Summerall. You know, Pat and John Madden were obviously iconic and I would just get chills. You know, this is back for NFL Sunday ticket, right? This is back before you're seeing like games all, you saw the game that was on TV in front of you. And when Pat and John would do the games, you know, and they did a lot of Giants games 'cause they were great when I was growing up as a kid. Just like his voice of like, you know, welcome to the mental lens. Like, you know, God, it gave me chills. And I just, I wanted to, I wanted to grow up and have the ability to give someone else that feeling. I would, I was one of those kids who would go to sleep and have the radio on by my pillow every night. You know, listen to sports talk radio. I was that kind of nerd, but it was awesome, man. Like, you know, it was just that kind of stuff is kind of what got me going and I always wanted to be a part of it. - Man, who's your Mount Rushmore broadcasters? - Oh gosh, that's a really hard question, man. I mean, there's four. - I'd have to give that some thought. I mean, yeah, I mean, there's so many, there's so many great broadcasters, you know, over history and who have been influential. I mean, you know, it depends if you're talking about play, if you're talking about studio. I mean, you know, I would co-sell. - How would co-sell, I mean, you could certainly make an argument for him. I think, you know, Pat Sermoll's got to be on there. I mean, now Michael's got to be on there. I think Joe Bucks got to be on there. I mean, there's, there's, I have to think about that a lot. That's a narrowing it to four, especially from a guy who grew up as a broadcas, nerd is really, really hard, man. I mean, that's a, that's a tough call. - It's all right, it's all right. - So we'll put those three on there. We'll let you have the fourth and we'll talk about that. - All right, I'll come back into fourth. - Definitely. Now, is it true you were a car salesman? - Yeah. - What's your, sell me a car. I want to hear you sell me a car. What kind of cars are we selling? - Oh boy. - Sell me that, listen, that Plymouth. - Listen, you know, Jules, I understand that, you know, I understand right now that you, you know, what you're in is great and you love your, you love your Kia, but this, this Tahoe, I mean, this is, I could see you and the mini Jules is running around this Tahoe. You're going kayaking, you're thrilled, you're on top. How great would that be for the family? It's gonna be a great weekend and for only 389 a month. I mean, it's well within your budget, you got it. - I mean, I'm gonna go buy a Tahoe right now. Okay, we got me buying a, buying a Tahoe. Now, did you know when you had someone hooked? - No, I mean, I was not a natural salesman. I was friendly, like, I think I'm friendly in real life, so I was just that. And then the salesport was hard for me. And that's kind of why I did it. It was like a challenge and, you know, kind of learn a little bit something about yourself, either sink or swim, otherwise you don't eat, you don't get paid. So, you know, it was like, I went into that and the guy around the shop was now a good buddy, Mike Trebeno was like, all right, here's what you do, go out and learn the cars and go sell them. I'm like, great, what the hell does that mean? You know, so let's go out. But what it was is you're just making, you know, essentially you're making a connection in a relationship for that time and trying to kind of find a common ground to sell the car. So it was a good learning experience. - I did it for a year and I had the number one customer service rating in the store. So I mean, you know, good vibes, baby. - And now look at you, you fast forward 25, 30 years. And what you do is you basically learn players, teams, you make a connection with the viewer and you sell these players and teams to the viewer and have a connection. It all comes full circle and you're great at doing that. - No, I appreciate it. You know, it's a good calling it and that's what was actually really cool about it for me. Like I tell as many young broadcasters about it as possible because, you know, I think there is a lesson there. Like for me, like it was a lot of different things in there but it was still core of who I am and like learning how to connect with people and finding out what works and what doesn't work. And I got to be honest, it was the most, you know, from a career standpoint anyway, it was the most important year in my life. Like I definitely don't think I'm where I am right now but I didn't do that. It just kind of changed my views on things. Maybe kind of examine just myself a little bit and honestly it was scary as hell. Jules, like, you know, thankfully my wife was carrying me and you know, she had a good job as a producer and, you know, but I, if you didn't sell a core, you didn't make any money. I mean, there were months I made like nothing because I had a bad month and I sold two cars. It's, it's a tough deal. So you learn a lot about yourself. Definitely, definitely. All right, let's do a couple rapid fire questions. Favorite city to call a game in? Well, you know, when we do this, it's more about like, okay, like stadium, atmosphere, how good city to call a game in airport. Not the city. There's a lot of good ones. City Dallas is pretty great. Dallas Dallas Dallas is pretty great. Now different. What's the best stadium to call a game in? Is that the same for you or is it? I think, I think it's, I think it's tough to top Seattle just from an atmosphere standpoint. It's the loudest place in the league. It is absolutely bananas every time you're there. And in fact, a lot of great games there selfishly. So I, you know, look, I could give you a lot of answers. Obviously, Lambo for the history is sick every time. But Seattle is pretty damn great thing that drives you nuts during a broadcast. 8 million penalties penalties. It's just, it's just the word that's this year. Been driven a lot of it's just the, it's just hard because like it, you know, when you get these games that have no flow and you feel like the penalties are kind of holding it back and you're like, come on, like, like, let's let it, like, let's let it vibe, let's let the guys play a little bit and I get it. Like I'm not saying that we don't have games with the calls aren't correct, but it's just hard to like, you want to like get in and get in a groove and see some action and get a flow. And it's like, that's, that's a really hard thing. I get a penalty infused, you know, 25 penalty days is tough. It's the worst. What's the bucket list sporting event that you want a broadcast? Oh, I mean, I've been so lucky to do what I've done. And there's a, you know, I would, I, as you know, because we've played together, I love golf, I would love to be able to do, you know, some event. Don't even have to be, you know, and crazy, like the masters or anything like that. But it would be fun to be a part of that. And so different because it's, it's just a different from what I know and talking to, you know, Joe and, and Mike Trico and Nancy. It's a different skill set, but I think it would be a cool challenge. And I love the sport so much. I think that would be a lot of fun one day. KB, you got a beautiful deep voice. You'd have to like bring that thing, be that boy, that bad boy down. You have to, you know, you have to, he lines up for the putt. I have a hard time with that. Here he is for eagle. I have a hard time. I think it's got a great voice. I mean, I have to comment down, Joe's. I'd have to be like, like, lay low on this a little bit. What's one sport you never want to call again? Oh, I don't know that there's anything that I've done that I really am. Like, oh, I never want to do that. There's some sports I haven't done. I've never done a hockey game kind of amazingly. And I'm sure that's hard. It looks freaking hard. But I don't know, like I started out, like my first thing really, an outside of college was doing high school football. And I love that, you know? And so it's just like, I think I think that you kind of find the beauty and the joy in anything you're doing. And, you know, whether it's doing the Super Bowl or a, I don't know, like a low level college basketball game that not a lot of people are watching. Like, I always feel and treated with the same exact energy. Like I really do. It's not just like podcasts speak to you. I so I don't, I don't know that I'd have an answer on that one. All right, all right. Lastly, current player that you think will be a great color guy. Oh, I think there's a few. I mean, I think obviously Travis would be really, really, really good Travis Kelsey would be great if he wants to do it. I think Kittle would be hilarious and amazing. If he gets done and wants to do it, he'd be freaking great. I think Fred Warner would also be, I know a couple 49ers, I know, but they're on my mind. They just played last night. I mean, I always thought the intriguing one, you know, for years was Aaron because he's so damn smart. And I haven't done one of his games in years because he went to the AFC with having that name is Pittsburgh games, but production meetings with him were always fascinating, fascinating, I don't know if he wants to, oh, I don't know if he wants to do it or we'll ever do it. But I always thought he'd be really intriguing if he decided to do it. Is it three of the top of my report? It would be must watch TV, the subtle jabs, the conspiracy little things that he would bring it up. He would be lights out. I would love Aaron Rodgers in there. It'd be funny. He wouldn't be afraid to tell you when someone sucked. I can tell you that. No way. Definitely not. Now let's shift into the NFL season. What's your thoughts on the season thus far? We got pretty much 33% of the season done. We're third in the books. What's your biggest thought going into week seven? I think there's a lot of teams that I'm surprised are a lot, you know, worse than I thought they were going to be. And there's a couple that are surprising better than I thought they were going to be it. You know, you get to this point now and, you know, you know, Tom always talks to us about how he felt. He got to like week seven or eight for you really knew who you were anyway as a team. And I guess so look, you start, did I think the Rams would be where they are? I didn't. And I don't even care about the record. I'm surprised at how they look. That one's a little bit, that one's a little bit shocking for me. I didn't think the COX would be, you know, 500 team right now, but they've had some issues to deal with. I still think they're going to be good. And I think the Rams are going to be fine too, but it's, it's a little off putting the way they've looked. I would ask you, Jules, like my feeling is in the NFC, you know, who, who is the front runner out? San Francisco six and LR to argue that. But, you know, the Eagles have down and now Hertz is out for the year of the NFC East. I don't know. The North is all very, very good. Or one of those teams great. Maybe, you know, I, I could see any of those teams, you know, step up and being great, but I don't know who is great right now, other than San Francisco. I mean, you're asking me where the league is right now. It certainly looks like a super bowl 58 kind of deal with the Chiefs and 49ers and everyone else catching up, but there's a long way to go. So, you know, I would say the biggest surprise like Rams down Eagles way down. Obviously, injuries, you know, have, have heard both those teams. Who the hell thought the Browns are going to be leading the division? I mean, um, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, I'm surprised their defense is, is where I thought their defense would be like, I know everyone thought they were going to be great. And I thought I wanted to see it. And I know there's a little growing pain. They're totally new. They had a lot of young guys there. But I think because their defense is unable to get off the field, it's, it's killed their offense. Like they're, you know, they, they've been unable to establish anything offensively. So they also got to get back to running the football. Like we're, I understand we got to do. I know we got two Ferraris on the outside, but like guys, Dak Prescott's a completely different quarterback when we got a effective run game. And he could do his play action and hit CD across the field or pickens down the field or Fergans in the middle of the field. Like that's when they're popping. And then it keeps their defense off the field. Like I think they're calling the game completely wrong. That's what they did last year. But I'm not worried about them quite yet because that division is so, so much up and shambles. That's the thing about the, the East is you could, you know, you could go on a little hostage for the last six weeks and be fine getting the playoffs and then roll the dice and go from there. I think the, I curious your day, I think the North is super intriguing. Like I Green Bay's turn around has been interesting because they looked, I thought the first couple of weeks I thought they looked awful. And their offense offensive line was getting killed. And they're still not, you know, I think where they hope, but it's getting better and they side a bunch of guys. And I have their game against Detroit this week watching then the last few weeks. It's, it's just Jordan love. I'm going to throw 70 yards down the field every time and it's freaking awesome. Yeah, they just kind of flip the switch and they're fun to watch right now. I, I think they're dangerous and just kind of scratching the surface and they're doing it with the worst run game in the league. So if they could ever figure that out a little bit, it's going to be tough. It'll be interesting with Josh Jacobs off that exemplest if he can somehow manufacture some effective running game. We need some effective running because they're a completely different team when they have some kind of run game. We need some kind of run game, you know, because those, I mean, my boy, Jordan, Jordan love, he has no problem throwing it up into a team meeting. But those receivers that come up with, they come up with it. They do, they do. And listen, you know, just through the bears and I've done a million other games. They look great. You know, since they, they're going to be a problem. You know, I, I think for them, the, the, I'm not, you know, Caleb's healthy. They're, you know, they're going to run the football with Ben with that run game of the way it's designed, you know, the downhill running game. They're so dang good. Their offensive line is really, really great. I think it's just for them. If they get into a game that they don't get any turnovers defensively in the playoffs, can they win? You know, it's, but they've been so amazing with Dennis now. I'm getting all these turnovers. And they're, you know, they were the best in the league by far last year. They've had games this year, but they've gotten multiple again. And they're almost impossible to beat when they do it. So like that, if they have a zero turnover, if they don't take it away, Jules, I'm just curious. Can their D just stand ground enough for their offense to, you know, get enough to go to Super Bowl. I mean, I kind of think they can, but you got to see a little bit more, you know, but they're, they're a super intriguing man. They are. I mean, I, I talked about it on our show, and I felt Fox kickoff, you know, a little time away for Caleb. Almost, I thought would help him, especially with how Case Keen and played 12 or 12 versus the Blitz, how Beijing came in and played, you know, he had an opportunity to watch guys in his system play within the system. And like, he came out so sharp because of that, I think, because he got to take a second and say, Hey, man, I don't got to use my legs right here. I may not even be feeling great with my hand me right now. Like, let's just stay within the system. When he takes those check downs and he stays in that system that Ben calls because he's in such a great calling mode right now with that run game, that offense align. If he just stays in there and then we sprinkle in a couple of those Caleb plays, that's when they're going to be dangerous. But I agree with their defense. They're got a huge match up this week Thursday against the Patriots. That's going to be a fun one. That's going to be a heck of a game. Yeah. Take us, take us through what goes into a single call, like a single. I think it's, you know, I mean, you can't plan it, right? Like, you're just, you're just, you know, for me, it's about, there's multiple things like, how's the game going? The moment, you know, big part of the game, big part of the season, all that goes into it. And, you know, I am a pretty excitable guy. Like, I get into it. I get emotional, no doubt. And I think the fun part is that, you know, Tom does too. And we're into it emotionally together. And so it's just trying to about like being the right vibe for the moment, I think. And, you know, you don't really have time to plan for it. So like, when I'm looking at it, it's like, okay, obviously you want to get it right. Like, who it is, you want to get, you know, did he catch it, not catch it in, you know, some calls are hard, like depending on where they are on the field, that there's a bunch of bodies there, seeing if they caught it or they in. So it's getting it correct and getting, you know, who it was. And then it's just kind of encapsulating like the emotion of it. Is it, you know, a blowout? Is it a one-year run? Or is it like a tie game with two minutes left? And I just said 74, you're a touchdown. Like, it's all of those things. And I just try to, I get it personally, if I'm watching a play unfold, looking at the field, you know, when I see a guy open, I get excited. So like, I see like the quarterback case, I see the guy open. I'm like, Oh, you know, he's, you know, he's got a shot here. And then it's in the air. And then I kind of react to that and go from there. So it's all of those things in a couple of milliseconds, basically reacting to it. And it's not a perfect science. That's why I think, you know, and we're in this society today where, you know, every three second clip that we say in a three and a half hour broadcast is, you know, put on social media and scrutinize or loved or whatever it is. But it's like, it's one part of being on TV for hours every week. But yeah, you hopefully, you get it right. That's kind of the idea. What's your favorite call of all time that you've had who? I, I'll give you two. I would say last year Packer's Bears in December in Chicago when the Bears came back in the fourth quarter and then Caleb had DJ more for a bomb and over time. That was probably my favorite. It was the atmosphere. It's like, you know, the Bears had been owned by Green Bay forever. The atmosphere was unbelievable. It was cold. It was Chicago. And like, you know, he unleashes one of the best pastors you'll ever see and DJ more diving catches it. And it's like, we were losing our minds. Like, Tom's hitting me and I'm like, lose, you know, screaming and losing my mind. It was, and like, it was the call work. Like, you know, again, in the minute, you're just trying to get it right and do it right. But it was cool. And I think the cool thing is what you do stuff like that is not even for you to judge. Jules, I would say one of the other ones is in the last two. I did with Eagles and chiefs. Game was out of hand, but Jalen hurts at this deep hole that Avanti Smith and on the play I called it the dagger. Because it felt like it was over. Like that was like that was the one to do it. And it's like I've got all these Ferris fans and Eagles fans when I see them or I'll go to stay up and like, I love that call. I remember that call sitting with my son. And like we jumped out of the couch and I played that call over to me. That's awesome. Like if I, it's kind of for everyone else to judge. Like if people, if that gave them joy or, or a minute they could relive like with, you know, their sons or their buddies. I think to me, that's such gratification that I could bring a little bit of joy in someone's life over a call. You know, it's cool. Have you ever toyed with like a catchphrase? You guys have like a bunch of catchphrases before you go into like the game. Like, you know, change the light bulb or piss missile or. Like you guys just have a bunch of those things just lying there. I don't know. I'm asking for a friend. I'm asking for a friend easier. Yeah. There is so many that Tom unveils that I just look at him and I start like hitting him and I start cracking. I think I left out loud this week when he said, you know, that ball was generated and I hit him on my, I started laughing. It's great. It is so great. So the other stuff that comes out of our mouths is, the piss missile is one of my all-time favorites. That was. What's funny is I had not heard that joules. I had not heard that term. Like, my dad had said that to me like we were watching games. I was younger and I, I'd never heard anyone ever say that in my life. Until Tom said it on the air and I was just dying. It was so great. So the answer is no. I've never, it's funny. I definitely have a couple of kind of calls that I have now. But I didn't like go out. I didn't think like, ooh, I've got to have a signature call. Let's develop a signature call. It's just like. Stuff that I've done like and it kind of started doing it and happening. And then and then it just kind of became like my routine. You know, but I never like woke up. I was like, oh, I need a signature call today. Let's figure something out. It just kind of happened. Well, it's been fun, man. Do you ever get tired of carrying Brady on these broadcasts? I mean, it's doing it's the opposite, man. You're back hurt. Listen. He's the best. We have such a good. We have such a good time and like laugh and like joke and like, you know, I just really enjoy being around him. And I think like the best part about this has been the process and like how, you know, close we become again and know each other. And, you know, I think, you know, what's really cool. And I knew, you know, we would get there. I knew, you know, we would continue to grow as a team and work. But I think you saw it last year. And now you're really searing it. Seeing it as the guy that you knew and played with for a decade. He is like on full display every week. And like, not afraid to be TV and showing you what he's got. What he's got and fun and like funny. And like, I think it's freaking awesome. And, you know, I said this jewel is one of the coolest things for me. Like, when we were getting going is. This like year one, you know, stand next to the greatest player of all time. You know, and, and, and we're working. We're doing like a, I think it was a cowboys game. And, you know, it's funny. People can steal the stuff we do. Like not on camera. Like the looks we give each other and like, you know, we hit each other or like, you know, kind of laugh off camera. But we're doing a game and, and like, it was like a, kind of like a cool gadget play I think to Gavante Turpin who scored. And Tom's like, you know, oh, you know, he's like hit me. He's like, you know, kind of hit me the shoulder and like, you know, like excited. I'm like, I'm standing next to the guy who won seven surreables. And he's jacked on like a 23 yard like creative gadget play. And I just thought it was the coolest thing ever. That he loves the game like that. And, and, you know, so like, that was a moment early on. I was like, God, this is so fun. Like just, I'm so lucky to be with him. And he's the best. It's been very fun as a viewer to watch you guys progress with your relationship. You guys are just like from year one to year three. It's been so fun to watch. You guys have raised the game. And everything that you've talked about with how much fun you guys have in the booth. With the relationships and all the things that you don't see as a viewer. I feel like we feel that. I feel that you guys are having fun in the booth. I feel the education that you guys give. I mean, it's been really fun. Really fun to watch. And I can only imagine it's going to continue to get better because Brady. And you, you know, you're, of course, you. KB, you know, he's going to always work to try to get better. He's going to always work to try to get better. So it's been really fun. It's been really fun. But do you think who's writing his lines for him? Who's writing his little lines for him? Do we know? Dude, he's, he's, he's, he's funny, man. That he comes in like with these thoughts and we'll do like a production meeting. And he'll break down the tape for us and watch all these things. And the stuff that he says is hilarious. Like it's just, it's full, like, you know, unfiltered TV. But I bet you had, I bet you had sounds very similar to what we used to hear in a team meeting. I would love to, I would love to compare notes because like put it this way. We come in and we're like, well, we know exactly how he feels about this game or this guy. You know, going into the game, you know, showing the film and like these uber critical, like watching the film and telling us this, this good, this sucks, you know, whatever. It's great. I mean, I'm like, I'm learning a lot about football, just being, being with them and, and going through that stuff. It's cool. Yeah, man. Well, you know what? I, I wanted to say thank you for that because, you know, we, you know, as you know, it's a subjective business. It's opinionated and one person's going to think, you stay next person's going to think you're great. So you can't get hung up on that. But what I think in my mind is, I, I always just felt like, you know, hopefully, you know, we're a good hang, right? So Tom's going to educate you on the game and then we're going to have some fun and we're, it's not brain surgery. And so for you to say that coming from you, I appreciate it. No, but it's, it's true. I mean, you guys, you could tell you guys put your time in. You could tell that there's a real connection between you two and there's a love for the sport that you guys are covering. And it's been fun because I've seen growth, just continuous growth. And then it's not even to the growth anymore. Now it's like, okay, now we're getting to see football from your guy's eyes, Tom and KB's eyes. And it's not even about that anymore. It's been really fun to watch and it kind of makes me feel like I'm still hanging out with them. You know what I mean? We don't get to hang out as much, but getting to watch him every Sunday. That's kind of how he was in the like locker room. I, um, sorry, I didn't interrupt you there. I, I, um, you know, what's really neat and, you know, you're the same way. And I remember texting you like a year ago, one of the points you made on kickoff, I thought it was so awesome. I think sometimes when you have, you know, people like you jewels or obviously TB, some of the things that are commonplace to you. People at home find it fascinating, right? So we had, um, who was it? Oh, it's Philly Rams. We go to break and he's like, Oh, they, you know, they effed up the production there. And I was like, Hey, show me that he's like, show me the tape. Show me the tape. Show me the tape. So he comes to the tape and he gives us very detailed like, you know, football centric breakdown, but what happened and why they messed it up and what the call should have been. And he goes to like every guy. And I was like, that was amazing. You know, our producers, he's in his ears, a holy cow. We're like, can we do that when we come back from break and just, you know, dumb it down a little bit, you know, a little less X's than it was plus we also have, you know, 15 seconds to do it, which is hard. And it just, he came back and it was like a master class of like, OK, boom, here's watch this guy, this guy, boom, this is, this is what they should be doing on this split pickup. And then this is this. And it was, I was like geeking out and earning out thought it was so awesome. And to him, it was commonplace. It was like something he would have done the lines for much when he played and it would have been. But I think that stuff is just, I love that stuff. Like again, it's just common. You guys are so smart. It's so common to you. They like don't even think that something that like a nugget to you can be gold in TV, you know. Yeah. And you guys are giving out a lot of nuggets. I feel like I'm in Reno at the golden nugget when I watch you guys, you know, KB. I want to say thank you for coming on the gronkin jewel show. Good luck in Milwaukee and in Detroit. You got a double header. He's doing the World Series and America's game of the week. Thanks again, KB. You're the best. You are brother. Oh, it's good to see you. Jack, I feel like you, you've been living the LA life lately. I was it been being out here. Dude, it's been awesome. I booked a place on Airbnb during the season. So I can be out here with you guys doing the show west side living by the beach, taking my steps, breakfast burritos, all that stuff, man. Breakfast burrito. You know it. Oh, come on, man. No, no stranger to a good BB. That's the way you have to do it. You get to explore the city, but you're not spending all your time trying to get around exactly. It's been great getting to add my own space and experience LA like a local, which has me thinking about how many fans will be doing this and should be doing this in LA for the big game this season. Absolutely. If you live in LA, this is a great reminder to start thinking about listing your place on Airbnb for the big game. There could be fans coming to town looking for a place just like yours. For sure. I've seen firsthand just how nice it is to have a home base in the city you're visiting. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb dot com slash host. Joe's I have good news. What's the good news? Football is back. We last in a whole two days. Thank God. It's Thursday and what a match up we have the four and two new England. in Patriots, travel to Chicago to take on the red hot four and two bears, the ice man coming off one heck of a performance in Atlanta. Patriots rolled the jets. Now we got a nice little match up here on Thursday night football. How you feeling about this one, brother? This is this is sneakily probably. I mean, the Thursday night matchups have been pretty decent. We've been getting blessed, but this is a great match. I'm excited. I'm so excited because of how both these teams played the week before, you know, you look at New England, three game heater, play a division rival jets, go in, beat them, still a little sloppiness with it, but get the W and have a lot of improvement from the first two weeks. Yes. Same thing could be said about the Chicago bears, get Caleb back, play against a hot Atlanta team. And then what do they do? They they roll them in the first half, and then they're basically running the clock out and Atlanta tries to, you know, come back at the end, but two really hot teams right now. And the one thing I watched both these games last night, and I think the main thing for the Patriots in this thing, they can't turn the ball over. Because if you watch them Chicago bears with those two, those two special teams turnovers or takeaways they had against Atlanta, they they turn those into points, man. They they really capitalize on on bad football. And both these teams, man, you look at Chicago, like their defense, everyone is talking about their defense, but their defense is situationally right, man, red area, red area offense, their seventh, red area defense, their fifth, third down offense, their 13th, but they also like to go forward on fourth a lot. So sometimes they treat that third down, like it's a second down. Very true. And then their third down defense is third in the league. So like, yeah, they're a bend, but don't break defense. But look, you get them in those situations on third down in the red area. Chicago's playing dang good football, man. Dang good football. There's tough, man. Uh, the one thing that is that is looming larger over this matchup tools is the injuries. I mean, they are just piling up for the Patriots day game, too. And it's got to get up and go. Bad calm with practice. I mean, you got Ben Brownie at Carlton Davis, you got Joshua Farmer, Elijah Vera Tucker. It's, uh, it ain't great. Morgan Moses looks good though. Was practicing. So that helps you align a little bit, but what walk through me, walk through me, which is nice. What is, what is a guy like Josh doing game plan wise, knowing he's got to banged up offensive line and knowing he's got a short week? Well, you're not going to get a lot of practice. So you got to run things that everyone's comfortable running. Everyone knows what to do. You're running your fundamental plays. Yeah, there'll be a couple sprinkles of some game plan plays that they've been watching because they probably prepared for this game late last week during the off time before the Jets game, you know, those coaches on Saturday, sometimes they like to go and look at look ahead real quick, you know, the game plan, especially for a short week. I can anticipate a lot of comfortable plays that everyone's comfortable running. Uh, so, you know, that's how you prepare, you know, with the offensive line that the Patriots, you know, it's pretty banged up, but when you watch the Lomo, Lomo kid, oh my god, he played right tackle for Moses and he played well, like that guy, he's a stud. He's been great. He's a really good, like, if that's your third, your swing tackle, your swing tackle, the guy, you know, he's going back and forth who can also play guard. I don't know what they're going to do with that. Have they been, are they going to throw them in a guard for Vera Tucker? I haven't heard yet, but that sounds like something that could be happening. Uh, I mean, he's got a 99% PFF grade through these two weeks coming in. I mean, I mean, we're not gonna have the breaks. I know, we're not gonna have the breaks. I just got to give them the hours, you know, but I think what Josh can do is he can call plays to protect guys that are inexperienced. You're right tackle. He's young. So let's have a chipper there. Let's, you know, let's have some tight end help off the ball just to have a body for that defensive end who's wide to think about if he's being chipped. Use the backers. You could slide protections. Josh does an impeccable job of protecting, you know, linemen that aren't really experienced or a guy that's coming up and filling in for a guy. Josh knows how to do that. I love that. Uh, you know, I think both these teams, they're designed very similar. Okay. You know, except I would say the run game for the bears and the continuity of the bears offense align is in, in a higher space than what the patriots are right now. And they're really good running the ball themselves on offense, too, which is going to be tough for this Patriots. Do you got to be, you got to be setting that edge because number one off tackle runs as well. Oh, yeah. This is going to be a huge game for bar more offense and will melt millions. Yep. Like this is a huge game because they're going to be going against probably the two best guards. Right. Yep. Tony and Jackson. Oh boy. Those guys, they, they tried to show their physicality throughout the game and they show that through the run game. And, and last week they came out like a bat out of hell playing against Atlanta. I mean, the first 15 for the bears like they were, they were, they were scoring at will. It was what 21 0. Oh, yeah, they got it. They ran it up. They ran it at granite. There was a couple turnovers, but they took advantage of those turnovers. You know, I, I, I'm really interested to see AJ Brown this game. I want to see what kind of confidence we have. I think we talked about it. You know, on the Sunday with Rob, how, you know, coming into a game when you haven't been playing for three weeks and teams are starting to get into that in shape mid season form. You know, he was probably pressing AJ. He was trying to make plays. He was, he was trying to run before he had the ball. We were all, we've all done that as receivers. When you get so excited because you haven't been out there, right? You haven't been out there. You see it's a wide open slant route. You're not thinking about the catch. You're thinking about making the two guys miss right next, you know, after you catch the ball, hopefully. Sometimes, you know, getting back to the fundamentals of what a receiver is, get open and catch ball. Like that's, I think he's going to be a lot better this week. And we needed, especially we didn't even mention here earlier, but Romeo Dobbs on the IR. Not great. Which older, right? Yeah. Did you see his celebration? It was like a good celebration. Yes. And then did you see AJ Brown and Bob came over and like shaking him excited in this guy's got a broken shoulder. No, I think that's going to, you know, that, that's tough because I think Dobbs, the more he's in with the ones, the more he's in playing in these games, the better he's going to get because it seems like his confidence was coming around. It really did. It seemed like his confidence was coming around. It's going to be, you know, that sucks for him because now, now you got a, you got a pothole in this road. I hate it. And you're going to have to sit down for a while, you know, that shoulder is hard for catching. That's what, that's what happened to my end of my career. Like I banged up my left shoulder so bad when you, when you're catching that ball, there's all those little like rotator cuff, labrum, all these little muscles in there that like, that's what you catch the ball with. It's like, you know, with your hands, but also your shoulders. So, hopefully he comes back. This is going to be a really good game, man. I'm excited. I'm super excited. Ah, excited. Can these, can these patriots go into Chicago? You know, I think rapes got the upper hand. I think so too. I think, I don't think Caleb's seen a defense quite like the patriots yet. And they're going to game plan that they're going to scheme them. The patriots have to rush them the right way. They have to rush them the right way. Bird cage type rush. You keep them in the pocket. Let Caleb beat you in the pocket, which he did an unbelievable job last week. He was 12 for 12 and unpressured things. I mean, you could look at all the stats. But when you watch Caleb right now, that was his bet. I think that was his best game as a pro. It was, I mean, unbelievable, efficient. I mean, didn't turn the ball over, unbelievable. On the road, coming back from injury, I know the hammy was hammed up as people are saying a little bit, but I mean, wait a minute, you're a turn, nice man. Yeah, but maybe it's the best thing for them. I think you're right. That take you had on Sunday was like, it's the best thing for him. And I was going to see that I don't even got to use my legs if I stay up in this thing. Yeah, only one true scramble last week. And it is worth noting, Jules, patriots ranked third among QB containment against mobile quarterback. So we've been pretty good. They played. Who have we played this year? We played Josh Allen, of course. Oh, they know. I mean, he knows how to run, doesn't he? Yeah. But the thing is the difference between those Buffalo bills and these Chicago Bears, I think the Buffalo, I think the Chicago Bears, they're receivers are freaking good. Really good. Boother burden, good football player. I think he's a stud, stunchie, makes guys miss, can run routes. A dunesay's got his role, Loveland, like he's a big ass target running down the middle of the field, swift catching passes, swift out of the backfield. Like they got a lot of explosion type players. sure do in all spots. Yeah, yeah, dangerous, dangerous. Both these two teams turn over differential in the pluses. That's what you want. It's just crazy to meet with the Patriots of how many turnovers I know, you know, the offense has had. It's being the plus. I mean, that's crazy to me. Our leaders and giveaways as well, which is, which is even more impressive that they're, they're pluses in this differential. Patriots 13 turnovers on the season. Bears 11. Yeah. Whoever wins a turnover battle, I think is the battle of the top or battle of the 2024 top three picks. Yeah. What do you think about that? This is Caleb versus three. Caleb versus Drake. Drake. And then you had Jaden Daniels in there in that top three. One, two, three. I think it was right. Wasn't I think Drake was four. Marvin Harrison Jr. was four. He was three. So was Caleb, Jaden, Drake, Harrison, then Joe Alt went five Malik neighbors six. Penix was eight. And then their Dune's day was nine. So it's going to be a tough game for the Patriots. It's tough. If you had to go back to those, I don't love these kind of hypotheticals, but if you had to go back and redraft, you could either take Caleb or Drake who you're taking to start your franchise. That's tough. That's tough. That's really tough. I think that's very tough. I don't, I like Drake. I think I'm going Drake. I like I'm going Drake just because I mean, I don't know. It's a hard hypothetical. It's a hard hype. But it is, but you can't, I don't think you can go wrong. No, it's awesome. I like both a lot. And now that's a very diplomatic. Jaden Daniels is easy. I mean, it's just a mess of orders in Washington. It is. It is. But getting back to this game, I think it's going to come down to who turns the ball over. Yep. Turn over different. You cannot turn the ball over. But the thing is, with both these, these teams, when they turn the ball over, they have such explosion type quarterbacks, explosive quarterbacks where these guys can get out of the pocket. They go and turn the ball over, but they could still make a 60-yard throw on the run and get back up in it. So, you know, I, I love soldier feel, man. It's sad that they're taking that place out. It really, it's like a, it's like a, you feel like you're in some kind of Coliseum thing, but then it's modern inside. It's got the bones of an old stadium with the modernness of the new right there in the city. And that place is, it's really magical. And we got to play him in a crazy snow game. And that's, that was the game before the, before the game, it was freezing. The snow was all over the place. I remember the veterans, Walker, he took a shot at Tequila right before we went out. He's like, we got to get warm. And I was like, I can do that, man. That's a, that move right there. It was a vet move. I was like, that's pretty tight. If you, if you're playing a soldier feel, I want snow. I think that's it. I think it's a crucial ID to one, two. Who else? There's a couple. The Lyme and Raw taking them. I mean, what do we do? Don Julio for the boys. I don't think around Julio at that time. I had one last question before we move on. It's making a little bit of waves around special teams Twitter, which we're part of. We know special teams. Tori Taylor, Bears Puncher, is doing what he calls this banana punt. So he's kind of kicking it off the side of his foot. You know, I mean, you all know this. It's like the boomerang. Yes, the boomerang. And it, it has had pretty good success. He's tried it 10 times this year. It is forced to muffs. What do you, as a, a great punt return to yourself? How do you prepare for things like that or, or feel those kind of punts? Well, you got to watch the pattern on film. Yep. And, and you got to judge it right. Okay. You got to use your feet. Your feet have to be in the right area. Those banana punts. It's like these new like boomerang punts where they're trying to get this thing. There was a couple other punters that had these balls that would die. Yeah, like the hurricane one, all that stuff. Yeah, you really, you got to be tight with your feet. And you got to keep your hands up. And that's what it is. You got it, you got to get a good beat on it right off the kick. So when he kicks it and you're anticipating it, it's probably a plus 50 punt, meaning they're close to the 50. And it's probably automatic fair catch. So that's when they would use those. They don't need the hang time because there's less, there's less yardage to coverage cover. That's when you see them. And you got to have, you know, I'm sure the special team's coach for the Patriots. He's probably got some guys or some kind of gadget that can probably do it. They're going to, they're practicing it. I mean, all the punters can do all those types of things. It's just do you have the balls to do it because you don't want to shank it. You know, the right can shank those. Oh, yeah, those are coming up when you have the unpredictability of where you're putting it on your foot. That's when sometimes that thing goes, you know, 17 yards out of bounds. And you don't see the banana pun no more jogging back to the sideline feeling. Yeah, right there, you really just have to focus. Get your fair catch up early. Know that you're catching it and do everything in your, your mind to get your feet where you think the baller is going to be. You don't want to try to catch those on your hip. They, they call that ole. You don't want to ole it. You want your, you want your body square when you're catching that punt because that, that's where the most surface areas. If something happens, you have your body. So, you know, for those puns, man, you just got to take a deep breath. You keep your hands high because that keeps your elbows in. When you have low hands, look at my elbows. They're bowing out. They're bowing out. And that's how that thing slips right through. So you keep your hands high. You keep your feet right. Don't take your eye off that goddamn ball. You know, wise man once said you catch a punt with your feet. That's right. Baby, you're pulling your feet darn right. All right, Jules. Should we go on? Wait up, wait up. I'm taking the Patriots. Let's go. And it's not a bias opinion. I just think, actually, I don't know. Pat's baby. What's the spread? You got to give that edge. Minus three. Yeah. It's minus three bears bears. Patriots. You know, no, no, I take that back. Jules. It is now. Yes, it is at minus three. It opened it bears minus one and a half. Well, all the injuries. Yeah, all the injuries. And that's what's scary. You're getting spotted a field go here. You're taking paths in the points or paths money line. I'm taking paths money line. AJ Brown has a get back on track game, a reminder game. I think the Patriots are going to take care of the football. And if they do that, they're going to win because I, I don't know. I think it's not too tough one. No, I think AJ Brown is going to come out and AJ Brown has to have a big game. Me too. Andre Stevens has to hold on to the football Henderson has to hold on to the football. If there's one fumble, they lose. Okay, if they lose, if they if they fumble a ball, there's two moment, too much momentum in Chicago. This is going to be on the road. Chicago's going to be a freaking place is going to be on fire. It's going to be lit up. Oh, yeah. It's probably going to be a little nippy out. It's starting to get there. It's not cold. It's nippy. The belly full of lume on aides. This is this would be a big boy win for the Patriots. If they go in two Chicago after Chicago, just had a pretty good performance. They're quarterbacks at an all time high and confidence right now. I don't care about the injury or not. The guy went 30 for 36 last game. Like if they go in and beat these bears, that's a big one. Hey, we went into Buffalo and did it. Let's get that roadward. Definitely. No, you don't you don't know this guy. No, I know. Let's get that road warrior mentality back. Come on. That road warrior. Let's go. Pats. I'm going to go. I got pats. Me too. All day. Drake. May AJ. That last game with AJ Brown did not worry. One thing also, the Patriots have to treat third down like it's second down with this guy. Third down is just an extension of second down. That's how you have to think mentality wise. Okay, we can't just play at the sticks and tackle and play for four that. No. Third down is second down when you're playing these guys. These guys are Riverboat Riverboat gamblers. Yeah, this guy's from the MCDC tree. MC. I mean, they love to go for it all for. Yes, points that are premium. I don't know who you're dealing with here. So let's go. Pats. Let's go. Pats. Come on, baby. You got a Caleb a nice man in the boys. You can't be tricking it off and come out flat. You cannot come out flat because you saw what they at land of Falcons did. They came out flat and the Chicago Bears went up 21 up or 21 seven. Put a licking on them. Because that's that's kind of team they are. You do not want to get behind on these Chicago Bears because that's when that defense can do all their exotic stuff on third down the red area. They're play play situationally right on defense because they can run the ball and control the ball. Yep, these these bears are on right. We'll see if they do it. Let's go, Pats. Come on now. I'm excited for this one night. I'm excited. Time for the officially delicious matchup presented by little Caesars this week at Sunday's marquee matchup between the three and two Detroit Lions and the four and two Green Bay Packers, which also happens to be America's game of the week. Let's get into it. I'm excited for this one. Yeah, NFC North, baby. Let's go. This is going to be a fun game. Anytime this NFC North plays, it's always, you know, I mean, going into the season. This was the the talk of the league. It really was this division, man, which to which one of these teams going to win it, any team can win it. Minnesota's not going to win it. Minnesota's undefeated. The Detroit Lions, can they get over not having a good defense? The Green Bay Packers, what are they going to be? And boy, do we have a treat, especially because both these teams played really good games the week before. I know Detroit was on on their by week, but before that, Detroit beat the crap out of Arizona. 45, 21, 45, 21 and that and it wasn't that close. They were running that thing out. And then Green Bay last week on Sunday night football, kind of dominated the Dallas Cowboys. Oh my God. I'm in time. Like that score, they were only down one score, but Green Bay was like four catches away from from blowing the doors off. Those were some uncharacteristic drops. Yeah, I mean, I think it's two receivers that are young working together. Like we used to have wicks. They used to have read. They used to have dobs on the Patriots. Like they've never had their own time. So I think they're going to get better. And they, and I look, they dropped a couple balls, but they made a couple big plays. And boy, the Jordan love like he was slinging it. And then you look on the other side, you got Jared, you got Jared golf, who hasn't turned the ball over yet. What is he got unbelievable? I mean, Jared golf this season is just balling the heck out, dude. It's insane. I mean, we got 128 for 191, 12 touchdowns, 1485 yards. No picks. Why are we not talking about him as MVP Jules? Because they're three and two. I know, but I'm just saying put some respect on golf. Gotta put some respect, but like he's in he's in position. If they go and ride a lot of a six seven game win streak that he's going to be talked about in the MVP. You don't want to be talked about MVP in the beginning quarter of the season. You want to be talked about MVP like at the back half of the season. Like that's when we really want to be an MVP. Now he's in a great position at the 12 touchdowns, 14 hundred yards, then they're 1500 yards five games in five games. But like you look at Detroit, man. And it's it's it's crazy that they've lost two games because they're offense when it gets cooking, prolific gives he's unstoppable when he's running right. I'm in raw St. Brown. Wait better, which I love because I saw him return in Ponce last week. Had a great punt return these think yet like a 25 yard punt return. Shout out to Papa St. Brown. Papa St. Brown. Good man. Uh, you got Laporta. Like the offense isn't the problem for the Detroit Lions. I'm worried about their defense and can they stop, you know, the snowball of confidence that's coming from this Green Bay Packers team. Green Bay, their defense low key has been playing really good these last few weeks. Don't sleep on them. They just have Packers. I mean, we all think very highly of these Dallas Cowboys and on the offense side of the ball. And and they they they stuffed them. They put a complete they they basically couldn't do anything. Uh-huh. Can we talk about these last three weeks? 14 points, seven points, 13 points. That's uh, that's an S guy. He's paired up with when Micah comes back. Anyway, I'm Micah yet and got Micah yet. The young secondary's playing very well. He's coming. Like I'm excited for this this Green Bay team. They can't go take a dump this week though. They can't go take a dump. Not not talking about taking a dump in the pocket like Gronk. We're talking about like take a dump as a game. True. Very true. This you got to play your best game in this division rival. You know, I think Detroit, man, I'm just so worried about their defense. Where's their stats? I know. They're tiny second. They're dead last in total defense. It's just they're 80. They're giving up 80% in the red area. That's bad. They're giving up 51% on third down. Like that was always the number you kind of wanted to get. Yeah. When you get off the darn offense. Like if we can get 50% man, we're doing really, I mean, they're giving up 50%. I mean, over 400 yards of game allowed. Then you look at their offense. It's 20 second on third down. And that's because they treat just like we just talked about with Ben Johnson. They treat third down like it's second down. That's what the packers have to think. Third down is second down with these guys. Like let's plaster and how do you how do you get this lion's deep offense off track? Okay. What do you have to do? You need to put pressure in the middle of the pocket and Jared Goff slap because he's a pocket passer. He ain't going to run around and do anything. You got to put pressure. And the same could be said about these Green Bay Packers. How do you get Jordan love off the spot? Or how do you get Jordan love off his game? Get him off the spot, which he should, you know, over the first three weeks. That's what teams are doing. They couldn't get anyone blocked up. And that's why they weren't performing at a high level. But this is, this is, this is ripe for a really good game. Really, really good. Detroit at home. I'm excited to hear Brady talk about both these quarterbacks. No, I mean, I think Tom gives great insight on what the quarterback is thinking in these, these matchups. I was just thinking about the saying, sorry. Oh, the pismiss missiles, the change in the light bulb. We'll be on high alert for what he's going to say. Yes. But the insight. Oh, is there? Who's hurt? Who is? We got Brian Branch, hopefully coming back. There's a lot of guys hurt the lions. A lot of guys banged up. Of course, Mike, we mentioned St. Just Brandon C. Say. He got banged up with a stinger last game. That's Packer's cornerback with a stinger. Ain't great. I hate to see that. Cade Mays, hopefully coming back this week, the center for the lions. He's been practicing this week. So that is encouraging Tom Kennedy, who we we found out was the, the team asshole on IR, unfortunately, MCL. But those are the big injuries. I mean, they just Detroit's defense, man. I know Brian Branch, hopefully coming back, but that ain't going to solve everything. Is Josh Jacobs playing this game? He's off the exemplest active yesterday. He practiced. They said he practiced. Yeah. Boy, they say they may play Sunday. They need them to play. Yeah. I mean, because they haven't had a rush over 50 yards. Insane stat, by the way. That is an amazing thing. Yes, it was a team that can run the darn rock. And it's been kind of, it's been kind of muddy the last couple of years. But you know, a player like Josh Jacobs, he can help that, hopefully. And that could change the, that could change the whole offense. You know, if they get, if they get that run game, they're overcome and not being able to run the rock and rattling off these winds. Just for all you history nerds out there in NFL history, only three times has the team had a winning record through six weeks without having a player rush for 50 more yards. You know, the other three times that happened to us. No, all the packers, all the packs, 2026, 1941, 1935. We remember that 35 team. Was that a whole Lambo? I think I was whole curly Lambo. That's all curly. Vince Obi big I mean, that's crazy though. There was all the packers. Man, unbelievable. Do we think that the packers are going to continue? I mean, they just, they had two big win at home. They had two big wins at home. Can they go on the road in D town and win? What's, did they win last year? What was the matchups last year? It was, they beat destroyed both times last year. They swept Detroit. Yeah, which doesn't happen often. This is a split type series. They swept them. What do you think? Man, the defense. I'm, I'm riding with the packers. I just, I'm so worried about that Detroit Lions defense. I mean, they're last in every category or close to last. And, and there ain't no ed read walking through that door. Like a lot of other guys are hurt or they're not on the team. They got, we don't have my man Aaron Glinn walking through that door either. Aaron Glinn is not there. I'm not a Pileron. And I don't like taking shots, but Kelvin Shepherd, man, a DC in Detroit. I'm just, yeah, but he's not working with nobody. I know. He's got like three guys. You know, guys bag like you can't make chicken salad out of chicken. Shit. This is true. Yeah, I'm sorry. You know, sometimes it's, you know, the players got to be on the right page and, and got to buy in and have a good effort and attitude and stay within the scheme and not give up gaping 35 yard freaking explosion plays or the, you know, like sometimes we got to look in the mirror as a player. That's why I don't take shots. I'm sorry, Kelvin. I'm not a shot guy. You know, I'm, I'm not a, I'm not like pro coach. I'm not pro coach. You got to look at the whole situation. But you got to look at the whole situation, man. Like we went into this year saying, like, that's going to be a problem. They're defense. Like, why did we think it was going to change? And it's been a problem. It has, you know, they got a very dynamic offense. Little Tom Kennedy's not out there returning puns. We don't got, you know, the special teams going. even though they got, they got my guy, St. Brown out there, I can't think that. Love our man, I might have a explode. Don't let him go off. Hey, this is a matchup of two former guests on our pod. I know, Watson, Watson and I'm in row. We love those guys in row. Who's gonna get the ground controls bump this week? I don't know. Well, this will be exciting. But just last one here, after that slow start, are you believing in the Packers? Are you on the Packers bandwagon right now? I'm not on the bandwagon, but I'm leaning on, I'm looking at the wagon. You're like jogging next to it, like thinking if you want to hop on. Yeah, it's like the Oregon Trail type show. I don't know if I'm getting on that wagon to go out west. Yeah, we might die a distance area on the way, but I'm doing math in my head. Yes. Do I want to stay out here on the east coast? Or do I want to go get some gold? That's right, go west, young man. I don't know, man. I feel good. They've been looking good and they're only getting better. Yep. It's only getting better. I'm really excited for this game, this is regardless. The only thing that scares me, every like, I've been on it like so pro Detroit lion for years now. We're on records. In any pro game, there's a big game in Detroit. I've said the same thing like four times. Eminem's going to be there. Kid Rock's going to be there. The place is me old wild. And they've lost at home in some big games. They have, and not to take the full gambler's perspective here. The Packers getting three points on the road. Plus three, like, they're getting three point. Yeah, I mean, they're Detroit minus three home field advantages are playing that much into it. I mean, it's going to be a, it's going to be a battle. I think, I think the Packers cover for sure. I don't know if they can win, but I know they're going to cover. Right. I got faith in these pack. I do love to draw. I love Detroit. It's tough. You know, the whole NFC North is fun. It's fun. I like all the teams. It's fun. It's so old and they're so traditional, you know, it's just a fun division. And I love, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jules. I love the coach beef. I love a coach beef. Make it. It's the best. But there is no coach beef here. I don't think. Is there not as prevalent as others, but I think there's, I don't think, I think Leflore would get. We don't really have any moments. We don't have any like any blow by or like any, there's only beef between the smaller coach. Yeah. Like the two little guys. Yeah. Yeah. Talk is shit. MCDC. Yeah. We ain't going to fly away anyway. And even KOC, he got a side kick beef flow. Oh, big time. You know, beef flow. Jump into a fight. I've seen motherfucking beef flow fight. Guys. Oh, I would not want to see be, be flowing the ring dog. Go fuckers from Brooklyn. Oh, man. Beef flow. Don't play. Oh, my God. This is. I'm going green Bay. Let's go on the road. I'm on the road. I'm riding. I just jumped on the wagon. I jumped on the wagon. We're heading west. We're heading west. Mr. Brown. St. Brown. Papa St. Brown. We still love you. Oh, man. All right, brother. That was awesome. All season long, Fox delivers NFL action. And this Sunday, America's Game of the Week takes center stage fuel your game day with little Caesars and getting officially delicious offer 15% off orders of $15 or more with code Fox NFL. Amen. 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That's 30% off your first order at Sundays for dogs dot com slash Ralphie and Rocky or use code Ralphie and Rocky at checkout. All right, Jules, it's time for the segment. Let's go. The ball knowledge into bucks responsibly, of course, how about we hit some responsible wagers? All right. How was the responsible wagers last week real quick? Not good, not bad, four and four split, clean slate, even, I mean, that's not bad. It's not bad. 50%. If you can do that, the, the, the, we're not losing the pros are just over 50. We're pros. We're pros. We're pro, but we're responsible. Vegas pros. Yes, that's us. All right. Let's go. We got, I curated some for us. If you don't like them, we'll strike them down because that's what being responsible is all about. We don't force. First up, the Pittsburgh stillers going up against the New Orleans Saints, but this ain't in a dome. This ain't at Heinz Field. This is in France, France, we're going over to France, baby, Steelers opening lines, of course, the unrested to what are they saying over there? The unrested people, yes, there's, there's, there's civil unrest, they're, they're protesting in the streets. There is a lot of civil unrest. Yes, there is. They're, they're looting. It's crazy out in these streets. It's for textbooks, though, I think. Yes, wages, school conditions. I'm not like, I'm no macron over here. So I don't know everything, but don't either, but I'm reading. I hope we keep that away from the football. Yes. Yes. We just, we just need Tyler Shuck to be okay. Tyler Shuck comes to your country and you lose your mind. Some people can't hang. I mean, I, I honestly, I'm taking Aaron Rogers by a million in this. Yes, same right. This is because of the unrest people of France. Yes. I think Aaron Rogers is going to thrive in that environment. I think so too. I think he, he wants to go there and put on a show to try to bring the people together. Agreed. If there's one thing Aaron Rogers does, it's Unite. I can't keep it. I can't keep it. I can't keep it. That's A-Rod. I love A-Rod. They came off a gritty, gritty, gritty, gritty down in Tampa. New Orleans had a heck of a second half of a win, heck of a second half in the meta-lands. And because it's the, it's the topic de jour when you go overseas, New Orleans went straight from the meta-lands on Sunday, whereas Pittsburgh's waiting till Thursday, leaving from Pittsburgh. I don't really have a dog in that fight. Yeah. Yeah, the Saints will, you know, they got a lot of the, the French. See, that just means more, more chance to maybe get looted or burned. No, I think, I think, you know, there's, there's a connection with New Orleans. New Orleans. New Orleans. This is, is there a French? Yes. There's French connection. Logo is the flow de lue. Yeah. So I, I think they want to go down there and get some croissant, and they want to get some baguille. So I'm taking the Steelers by, I, I think the Steelers are going to want this feels responsible, doesn't it? This feels very responsible because like the Saints aren't going to be playing. Or turn over James this week. No. And he's going to be giving no gifts. The Steelers tightened it up at the end of that game last week. They showed a lot of mental toughness, a lot of mental toughness. They sure did. In the heat. Two in a row for the Steelers. Two in a row. Hitner's stride. He got, I was really impressed with our man, Jeremy Bernard last week. He's coming alive. Alabama. These are clicking. Yes. DK's getting in there. We're clicking. Warn. Mike's big mics. I don't think he's good. Warren beast. That's my guy. There we go. And the offense line like we, let's get it started early. Let's get it. Hey guys. I know we're going over late. We're going Thursday. Steelers. Let's not, let's not start slow. Nope. Nope. Can we not start slow like last week? Because they were just to tick off in the beginning of that first game. They really were. It wasn't that enough that it took him out of the game. But just to take off. Drop. There's a tip pick that like they were like a tick away and then they turned it on and it got better. Yep. I like to see Aaron around these, these French people. They too. It's going to be a sight to see. Oh my god. I love it. I can't wait. We, we, we, is just sweet. Aaron. Uh, Minnesota. Next up, we're going to stamp that one responsible, baby. Next up, another one that I am really keen on. Minnesota minus five and a half at Indie. Oh, I think. First dome. I think the cults are done. Don't you think? Stop. I think I'm forking him. No. They just let go of the GM. This is the dominoes. Sorry, Chris Ballad. - Domino, in fact, now the next one, now the next one, guys are sitting, calling their agents, I mean, Charles gave us some great insight on NFL Fox kickoff about, you know, when you let go, I didn't know any of this kind of stuff. I never been in through this situation where you let go of a coach or you let go of a GM or you got a new, you know, we never had that. So it was really great insight. And yeah, guys are probably calling their agents right now saying get me the F out of here. - Yes. - Amen. - I mean, they're banged up. - Yes. And I think speaking of that, I think this is one of those where Minnesota's-- - B flow? - B flow. - Wait, I was sorry, I cut you off. Go ahead. - Licking in the shop. No, no, no, no, keep going, keep going. B flow, he's licking his chops here against this offense that's kind of been, not sputtering a little bit. And this defense further indies been so bad that I really think it could be a get right game for Minnesota. Coming off the buy, time on task, we're getting a little more familiar with each other. I think there's one where Kyler can really like put his foot down, say, hey, here's the offense. They had some, what was the game before the buy? That was, no, it wasn't the Saints, was it? It was the Saints. Yeah, that was when they beat him 23, 13, kind of a weird one. It was weird, but there was a lot of physicals. There was a lot of improvement for the offense, I feel. Yep. And I think that buy weeks going to be huge, huge for Kevin O'Connell, Kyler Murray, offense to get things going. They started running the ball a little more last against the Saints. We're going to see the motivation level of these Colts, but like, I just feel that Brian Flores flow and he smells blood in the water. He's already blitzing and there's four games to the game. He's already throwing four blitzes. Like right now to an offense that doesn't really have much confidence. Jonathan Taylor had a couple of fumbles that turned them ball over with, you know, Daniel Jones. It just feels like there's so much tension in that building. I know they relieved our guy GM, but like, it just feels like everyone's walking on eggshells, you know, Carly Arse, bro. She's making moves, making moves, taking notes. She's doing what she got to do. She makes moves now. I will say this doesn't feel like one of those where like you fire the coach the next week the team rallies and like, yeah, firing a GM. You don't get the fire GM new GM bump. That's not a thing. You know what I mean when a coach gets fired sometimes, it's like, oh, nice boys. Yeah, and like, yeah, you'll win one. You might not shoot or you hang around. And it's ain't that situation. I don't know. I think all the guys that he brought in there, like, damn, I'm so mad at this guy for bringing me in. I know like the fuck out of here. Lord have mercy. All right, beef low. It sucks going against the Colts. It does. Not a, I mean, we're notorious. Not the biggest Colts guys here, but we'll leave it there. Moving on, move on. Two responsible bets, two for two, baby. Carolina Tampa Bay, Carolina coming in this thing. How often has been humming, coming off that big win in Philly. I like them at this three and a half number, but my hesitation here, Jules, we don't know if Baker's gonna play or not. It doesn't really affect me too much. Just because I don't know what Baker we will be getting after being injured in the rust and even Baker before wasn't awesome. Ah, this was a little tricky one. That's it. Well, that, that point five is the three and a half is, is, what? Point five is hanging me up and may make us team this irresponsible. Tampa's coming off that tough loss to Pittsburgh. As we mentioned, Caroline is coming in with a win up in Philly off there by week. There are three and two against the spread this season. Tampa on the other hand, one in five against the spread. If that does anything for you here. Yeah, I think it's very responsible to take the Panthers that have been scoring 30 points. I know this division rival in the Buccaneers know how to play these guys. They've canalized. Yep. But man, I've been so impressed with Bryce Young. Me too. What a guy. McMillan, Hubert, I mean, they got the, they have a tight end. That's really good too. Tommy Trimble. They're in Waller to Waller. It's 11th thing that the Panthers and Bryce Young, he'll make mistakes, but he don't make the same mistake twice. His kid learns and it's been really fun to watch and I'm so happy for him because of what happened in the early part of his career, the benching, the this, the confidence. He looks confident. He's in a good flow state of how he's preparing. And whenever you watch him on interviews, I've watched him on. And you know, some other interviews here and there on other shows and he just knows that answer the questions. He's always like in control when he answers the question or when he's in the pocket. He's in control. Yes. His kid is in control. He's a gem of, he's a beauty. What a gem of a guy. Just seems like a good kid. Really good guy. Doesn't take big hits even though he's a small guy, knows how to protect himself, knows how to escape, knows when to, when to throw that thing away. He's, I love Bryce Young. I like the pants. I think we might, I think that's, this a very responsible three for three or a level resilient cat. And he is just that. Yeah. All right. I'm three for three. Let's move to the over under section. We'll move fast here, Jules. Pittsburgh, New Orleans. We mentioned this one earlier with the spread. The over a little lower than I would have thought 44 and a half. Each of these teams has gone over that number in for in for their last six. Taking it under. Okay. Okay. I think the travel. Okay. I think we go with the travel. Money, Weird Game. Yep. You know, there's going to be a couple of three and outs for saying there's maybe a couple of three and outs, maybe for the Steelers. I can't bank on these guys starting fast. They haven't started fast in a few weeks, but I, I, I think the, I think we're going to go with the under. Okay. I was going to say the over. We will deem the over irresponsible stamp it. Let's lean under and be responsible. Next up, Jules Houston, New York. I isolated here the over of 43 and a half Houston averaging 24 points per game, letting up 24 as well scored 30 or more in three games this season. Keep that in mind. We've learned six games. So that's half. If my math is correct, New York, 22 and a half points per game, letting up 23 last three games have seen 60 54 and 61 total points slanging that thing around. I like the over. 43 and a half just seems, you know, I know Houston's defense is, is all world the last couple years, but they haven't been this year, haven't found that stride yet. And we got double nine. Yeah. No, I think that, and then CJ Stroud, he looked, he looked very good last week. He really did. That offense is coming alive. That offense. I mean, that's the strength of the team right now. Yep. Was that offense? It's really cool to see. It seems like Kaylee's got a good flow going. They got the running game going with the marks. You know, Woody, like they need that run game to go. They got Harrison over there. Nico Collins in the lineup makes them a different team and price when he has Nico, it's just, where's our guy tank? Is he coming back? I, that's when I've been waiting. I'm waiting to see a little tank, man. I like a little tank. Me too. I know they say, they say this week will be the first since that major knee injury back in 2024. Yeah. He's young. They keep saying he's young and twitchy. I think he'll be alright. I like, I love the over on that. I like to. Me too. I love it. No, I was out on the Texans a few weeks ago. Insert Undertaker meme back to life, not back to life yet. They need to win this, they need to win like two more for me to back. Yep. To me. To me go, Kaylee. We love you, bro. Come on now. Come on now. And last, but certainly not shit in my hand, Kaylee, slap you on the ass. Don't shit in my hand, buddy. Nice words. Last jewels, but certainly not least. I'm leaning under in this one, responsibly, of course, 43 and a half is the number Denver at Arizona. Denver's often defense. Very stingy still this year. Offense hasn't been lightened up and Arizona's only mustering 21 points per game. But the defense has been slumping, allowing almost 30. So that's where I'm a little scared. Is this the game where BoNix and these guys open it up a little bit and feast on a defense that's been less than stellar or do you still see this one as kind of a rock fight, which Denver is known to play this year? Say away. I think we get that's indefinitely an undergame. Once gone like this. Oh, it is. It's an under. So it's responsible. I think that's responsible. Okay. I was. It did take. It's a very low. It's very low. But like, what? How low can you go at the the Bronco? But that limbo stick now, but I mean, but how low can you go? We haven't started fast in three years. Oh, no. No, no. Fast Friday. No. I think they're going to look better. And I don't get the win. But I don't know. We'll see on that. I under feels right. I see this as being. I think that we take that game off. Okay. irresponsible. Delete, delete. Irresponsible. If you have any inkling of hesitation, that's irresponsibility. Delete. Okay. What's true for three responsible there? And Joel is moving on to everyone's favorite portion of responsible wagering. The slot machine wide receiver props of the week, baby. And we are going to do as his tradition in this segment for the last three weeks. We're going to isolate Thursday night. We're going to ISO Thursday, ISO, baby, ISO me. We're staying in Chicago. First up Lutherburden, our man, over 57 and a half receiving yards coming off a 95 yard game versus Atlanta eight receptions on eight targets. That's efficient, baby, 63 61 yard games versus Philly and New York respectively, average in 7.3 targets per game. Thoughts on this one. Luther Luther the one thing that scares me so there's no Carlton Davis. I know so who is Gonzo gonna match up Like that's what I was gonna ask so, you know they gonna throw him on Luther Are they gonna throw him Luther? Are they gonna throw him on a doonset right do the I gotta I gotta do my I gotta do a little more Do the old Bella check put put your best corner on the second best receiver double the best guy kind of vibe I Don't know yeah, I'm not in that room with the game plan. I love I just love Luther Burton's name. I do too Luther mom had it just sounds great Luther. It does it. Maybe I'm thinking too much Luther Vandross here But same it just sounds I always I think Luther Vandross every time smooth He sounds like you'd be but I haven't heard of Luther. I haven't heard of a Luther since Luther Vandross I don't think I have either Luther Luther head the NBA player, but no that doesn't hit this him He doesn't hit the same Luther Vandross like I need to be wearing some silk. I need to be like. Oh, yeah You know what I'm saying? Just smooth. He's going over. Okay. It's too smooth He just is and and that's a sub 60s is feels really low for Luther next up Jules love a guy a guy that is do baby He is do love this AJ Brown over 64 and a half receiving yards coming off that tough game career high three drops against the Jets Loves return and he played 52 snaps last week off the ankle, so he was out there a lot He's he's out for inventions. Everyone everybody whoa this guy's only AJ, but I was I could not be less worried It's a little rust. Yeah, I mean dude guys been away from the game for four weeks Man, and you know they're gonna be feeding him and it's like his second game with the quarterback. Yes ever Ever ever you forget missed those weeks man. Come on. He too big too big. How big did he look last? He look big like I mean did he grow even a growth spurt? I don't know. It's just in that uniform base the red sleeves of LeBron Cleats killing it man dripping He's going over that's an easy cash him. That's an easy cash him. That is ultra responsible and last tools this one I'm a slightly on the fence about we got our other man there in Chicago Rome adunes a over three and a half receptions has 20 catches on the air still has not found me in zone This this this numbers only gone over for him once this season back in week. Don't like it. I think we should go under Yeah, I was gonna say do we lean under or do we? I think we lean under okay. I like that because look they're gonna have to play They're gonna go to their most confident things against a good football team. Yes And that is Luther and right now it's Luth. Yep. Come at Loveland Loveland. It's way of run game. Yep. You know, I love adunes. He's been situationally good in like certain situations He always comes up with a big catch, but you know for whatever reason Luther has been getting all the burden Like that. I like that. That should be. Oh, did we just develop a new catchphrase Something like since what we do around here. I don't know. Wow. That was awesome. We're heating up here This feels like a a winning week. I got us When we you know, we're watching all these games preparing for the Sunday show We robbed like I got to start thinking about these more I know got to think we're responsible. I got a possible. I just got to start thinking about them more There but there is no better feeling than when we're watching a game and we're in the group chat and that thing hits Oh my god without JSN wouldn't hit back in Denver. Oh, I was getting scared It was late. Neither that big one over the middle getting scared. That was all that was a high That was high 95. Yeah, that was we were in the 90s and we're like a little All game. It was just like incremental ticks and whoo JSN he always comes through doesn't he coming through that guy is something else But man what a responsible week and I have a really good feeling about this Great game tonight. I'm really looking for. Oh, I can't wait for this game. Hey Patriots bear. Oh, baby Sign me up. This is good football. I hope it. I hope it lives up to the hype I do too. I do too Don't be coming in Both these teams don't be coming in throwing out your sloppy shit Don't be coming in turn a ball over Muff pints Fumbled snaps 15 penalties. I want to see a clean game by both teams. Amen. I want to see a clean game by both teams Steal on steel That's right baby. Shout out steel Brian steel all the steels. Let's go. Shout out the Steelers and the Steelers Le blue le blues over there in France there near the knee. All right, man. What a week man What an episode. Thanks again to Kevin Burkhart Broncan, I will be back on Monday subscribe to the Broncan Jewel show on Apple podcast Spotify or wherever you listen Your podcast. We'll see you then