Kenzie: Love Island Tell All

what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy kenzie welcome to call her daddy thank you alex i am so excited to meet you you literally look like you just came from fiji you're in your little booty shorts you're in your little tank yeah you're tan yeah how are you feeling uh i feel amazing it feels surreal i'm definitely fangirling over you so hard right now listen to your podcast all the fucking time you were the first podcast i started listening to you are the reason i know how to suck dick no joke no joke and i get compliments all the time and it's because of you it's literally because of you i just listen to everything you said and i'm like okay i'm putting this to work i'm actually dying because kenzie walks in here and she's like oh my god wait and you're pregnant i didn't find that out till i just left the villa i'm like yes babe from the gluck luck to pregnancy we've got i know shit has changed i know thank you for saying that i'm i'm obviously a huge fan of yours watching you this season has been such an experience i was thinking about it obviously you just graduated nursing school and then you literally are on the biggest television show essentially in the world yeah how do you feel about all the attention um it's definitely wild i've i was not expecting any of this like i'm just feel like i'm a normal girl from kennesaw georgia i just have a i drive like 2013 lexus like i call her beat up betsy i lock the front doors myself like i can't even listen to music on there i listen on my phone like my radio don't work like i'm just like this normal nursing and nannying you know it's just like i this is surreal and i never like expected to be here i just manifested all of it even right when i got off i was like call her daddy please oh my god that's kind of crazy i didn't know that you were a fan so then here oh i've always been a fan queen okay we got to get you a new car i know what kind of car do you want um i want a baby blue like car i used to drive a baby blue convertible but i wrecked it like really bad okay okay all right well we'll try to get you a new car maybe blue bronco surf surfboard at the top please dylan's taking me for surf lessons kenzie okay okay okay i'm thinking about it also there's a lot we have to discuss today because you had a very eventful summer obviously very you won a karaoke challenge you found yourself in multiple love triangles yes you redefined what a handshake means you did more splits than i think anyone has ever done on this earth and you became truly one of the most debated islanders of this season when you got your phone back what conversation surprised you the most um probably just kind of just being exactly like sincere and stuff that that kind of threw me for a loop and then also just the hate comments on dylan um i was not expecting that because he's been nothing but amazing and i was like i was just my jaw was on the floor for him and it it hurt my heart so bad to see him upset well i want to get into all that because i feel like yes a lot of people either were like you were so messy or they thought you were misunderstood or they were like this is the only person that's actually doing the experience completely right yeah i want to go back a little bit though before we get into the details of love island how did you even end up on this show like what made you want to apply so i actually had never watched the show i've watched the uk love island like once um love them huge fan uh but my best friend in nursing school hannah she like told me hey you should apply for love island and i was like uh okay and i'd been studying all day and i just like did a 90 questionnaire talking i was eating dinosaur nuggets in my coffee it was like 4 p.m right after my hot girl walk and then i'm like i i did that and then after that i failed nursing like failed my last test in nursing school you have to get a 75 and above i got a 74.96 so it was 0.04 off and it was the 2030 thing yeah it was 100 the 2030 thing that's what fucked me fucking over bro like ah what the fuck but i ended up having a break i went to i got my hair done and like all different and yeah i i took a breath for myself and then got back in the game and finished on december or no when did i graduate it was like literally right before january march like uh march 12th and then i was sent on the 13th like the day after so your friend was the one that was like maybe you should do this yes and and is this like typical kenzie fashion were any of your friends surprised you were doing love island or were they like oh that's so classic her no it's actually crazy because they my dance friend like right before i went on she's on the hawks dance team and she messaged me and was like i think you would be amazing on love island and i'm like literally about to go on i'm like haha you'll see me on your tv soon i'm like okay girl i love you wow yeah and did you get the bangs for love island or you just got it because you were changing i just got it because i was changing up my look and and when you're in clinicals you have to have your hair all the way pulled back so i was never allowed to have like hair pieces so i did that and i was like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be and then i was like what else am i gonna do with the break and i'm like i've always wanted tits so i'm like i'm gonna buy boobs and that's what i did with my time off so when i came back to nursing school they were like they were like who is this oh my god you got tits in between nursing school i was like and it was not for the show or anything like it was just because you know like growing up you're like what do you want you want to be you want boobs as a woman like i wanted to feel like a woman okay i got like 400 cc oh you showed up and you said give me like i'm showing up showing out give me give me those babies so when you get to love island you're like give me the bikini i i deserve to show this off yeah and the dresses i'm like give any cut out shit give it to me give me kenzie did you pay for them or did your dad i paid for him yeah my nanny money shout out to them a nanny mama fucking love her queen yeah okay a lot of debate online and we're gonna settle it here right here right now yes what was your type before you went on this show uh i like dark hair normally i like dark eyes taller than me a sporty guy i like a country man i do but you know i had the convo gotta be there and all that and were you a relationship girl before love island um i was but i got my heart broken like three one big time um and then for two years i was single and i did not talk or text in anyone like no one okay well yeah i remember you were like i haven't had sex in a year and a half before you entered the villa was this by choice like how did you feel about being celibate um it was definitely by choice because for i it was four for a while and it was only like my boyfriends like the guys that i had very seriously talked to and then for a year i was like i for it was three guys three more guys and i it made me just feel like i needed that connection i need that connection with someone in order to do that slept with only four men four men you're life yes and then in a year i slept with three okay like and it just made me feel kind of icky i was just like i like to be a relationship girl so i stopped and because i wasn't talking to anyone i wasn't gonna do it and then i'm like well i'm going on love island like i'll just hopefully find my man there i feel like so many women are gonna be watching this like actually like we i fuck with you because you're just so honest like most i think most women are like scared to even be like count how many people have you slept with because there's so many like weird negative connotations and you're like oh so four than three that love it yeah oh i love that yeah let's first start with the roster thing yes you came in you said i'm not a roster girl i can only talk to one guy then you end up being one of the only people that had a roster obviously now in hindsight what are some things that you wish that you had known about managing a roster kenzie yeah i have no idea how to manage a roster at all i think it's pretty obvious and clear but everyone's surprised that i've never had a roster it's just like i was going on the show to find my best connection and that's what i was there for but do you think now that you have a better idea of how to manage a roster you're like i'm never doing that again i don't think i ever want to do that again but like i don't know it was fun it was like the best experience ever but yeah like even on snapchat like i've never done that i've i never could text or talk to any more than one guy and i never understood how how other people could do that it's a full-time job it is definitely a full-time job like i and how much how much is a girl allowed to talk about with another guy i am like can i not talk about my family i know we're gonna get into that because it was interesting seeing like you got backlash for certain things and that's why i was wondering like what was your understanding of love island etiquette when you first got in there of like how you're allowed to move with um honestly i didn't know any like love island etiquette i'm just more just like i'm just gonna be me have a connection see if we connect really good i did want to be upfront honest every single time like and i tried the only thing i didn't say was that one kiss with um corbin and i do regret that because i feel like that really led caleb on in a sense also i don't know if you've survived of on love island uk this season because everyone on this season of love island uk is moving like a kenzie really Oh, you would have been you would fit right in, Kenzie. Do you think the like closed off somewhat, you know, like playing it safe mindset hindered any of your other castmates experiences? Because obviously you moved a lot different than a lot of other people. Yeah, I moved a lot different than them. But also, I feel like the people that came in, they were able to connect with them immediately. It just so happened to be that my person came in later and at Casa. But I don't fault them for it. If you like someone, you like someone, you want to stay, you want to stay with them. I just I my person just didn't come in until later. OK, let's get into it. Yeah, we're going to go through the whole season. Yeah. Episode one, you chose Zach's door. You guys end up coupling up and almost immediately into coupling up. He lets you know that he has literally never been with a blonde before. He goes with people with darker features. You're kind of not his type. Yeah. And we saw you obviously get in your head about this. Like, how did that comment so early on affect your confidence? I don't know if it like affected my confidence, but I would say it hurt because I was like, damn, Charlie's into blondes. The fuck? I thought like Zach would, too. But I guess that's just not how it goes. I'm not OK. Yeah. I was like just telling myself, you know, I love who I am. I'm in love with myself and whatever guy. It's here. Like, he's going to love that, too. But it just wasn't wasn't going to be him. And that's OK. And prior to the villa, just like in normal life, how would you describe your confidence and your self-esteem? I do EFT tapping. Like, I'm always like, I'm a goddess. I love myself. Like, I pray and like pray that God gives me like all that love and support. And I just that's how I feel about myself now. And it hasn't always been like that. I went through really hard times when I was broken up with and I was so down. But you can pick yourself back up like with all the positive energy. Like, it's just all it's all you. And I think we saw that truly like your confidence as much as you kept getting kind of like, oh, this isn't working or this isn't working. You kept it moving in a way that was really refreshing to see that you didn't get too down on yourself. One of the main things the Internet grabbed onto the first episode was how shocked you were that you were not anyone's type at first. Yeah. Did this have you immediately comparing yourself? To the other women that you were in the villa with? Yeah, I feel like naturally it does make you compare yourself. It made me feel like not as beautiful, you know, to a point. It did suck because I was thinking that I was going to have like a Aaron and Kayla situation where I just met my person and seeing that happen right in front of me. And then, you know, like Zach bringing Kata back right away. And then they're in the bed next to me and they're like making out and stuff and then I only just laid on his shoulder like he didn't even cuddle or anything. I'm like, yeah, it definitely made me feel a certain type of way. Eventually, though, you had a slow start, but eventually someone came in who caught your eye during the office challenge. A new bombshell, Corbin, entered the villa. Yeah. What was your first impression of Corbin? I was like, he's not 100 percent my type, but he's hot. OK. We just ended up having a great conversation like he actually like it. I was like, wow. I we had a really good conversation. The chemistry was there. And I'm like, OK, like if he chose me and he did like we pursued each other after that. Early on, I remember you told Anaya you were worried Corbin had fuck boy behavior. Yeah. But it was like a gut thing. Yeah. What do you think you were picking up on? Probably like his swag kind of and his nonchalantness of just and then and then I heard about the kisses and I was like, hmm. I should. I should have taken it more with a grain of salt than I did. But I'm like, hey, wait, this is Love Island. Like, shit, I'm like a kiss is like a handshake for me. So it's like this is Love Island, babe. Like and you just got here. So I'm not going to fault you for that. That's fair. Do you think you were shocked by how many people were in shock when you said that you thought that I guess. Yeah. Like, OK, clearly, I'm not going to do that outside of here. Like, it's not it's not like that. But when I'm on a fucking dating show, we kiss and challenges. What's the fucking difference? If I'm if I'm fucking like, what is it? Like, come on now. That's fair. I mean, I think that's fair. Yeah. Outside of the villa. Would you say, though, that you're someone who has a good read on guys? Yeah, I feel like I definitely have a good read and women's intuition, gut gut feelings like you. You got to stick to that. If you feel that way, you feel that way for a reason. Oh, without a doubt. You have a feeling and you don't know why, but it always usually comes back around to prove you right. Yeah, it does. When it came to the next recoupling, Corbin chose you. Yeah. How did it feel to finally get into bed with someone that you actually were excited about? I was really excited to get into bed that night. Of course, I find him very attractive. We had great conversations, but I did miss being with him, being in a connection with him. Yeah, it felt amazing. I felt like a squirrel climbing a tree, you know, he is the tallest, like tallest and he got a lot of muscle. He's great. I wrote down the next morning, you said, quote, he turns me on and no guys have really done that. I kind of feel like a new woman this morning. Kenzie, what are some immediate turn ons and turn offs for you? He's just sexy. And also like the way he talks, his deep voice. I also like just how he would make me breakfast and it would be like the heart shaped pancakes. And I just remember missing those a lot. Obviously, you can't have someone make you those. I mean, they can make you those in real life, but like in real life, like as a turn on a deep voice, you didn't think it was chat GPT vibes. It gave a little chat GPT low key AI. Give me the impression of how he says Kenzie. Kenzie. Like it's so deep. It's and he's cool. Like he is really cool. He's a he's a great person. Pretty quickly on. Obviously, you guys had immediate sexual chemistry. You were talking about role playing. You were talking about the whole thing. Turned on as fuck. And you want to be handcuffed or would you ever handcuff the guy? Both. But I would love to be handcuffed. I like to be like, you know, put in my place. I mean, these are good things to know, Kenzie. I had a feeling, but I'm just checking it out. Okay. Then comes the bed paint challenge like you're talking about. And in walks a cowboy. Yeah. And the whole villa quite literally erupted. It was insane. Every single girl was like, this is Kenzie's type to a T. Yeah. This is Kenzie's type. How did you feel about all the girls' reaction? I mean, I loved it. They're girls, girls. They're supporting me. And they always support me. I love them so much for doing that. They knew I was kind of talking about a cowboy, wanting a cowboy to come in. But also that was right before I had a connection with Corbin. I'm like, can you please bring in like a guy for me? And then I'm like, oh, I'm kind of settled down now. But also seeing Caleb, I was like, I mean, he's fine. He's fine. And then the first thing he did was he came up and, you know, when he kissed me, he's like, hey, Kenzie. And I was like, stop, I'm dead. Okay, wait, have you dated a cowboy before? Yeah, kind of. Like, if you guys ever heard about Georgia Southern, that was like the guy that I was really in love with. And he was kind of like a cowboy. He had boots and stuff like that. He had boots. Yeah. Did he wear a hat? Sometimes, yeah. Okay. So this is, has this fantasy been like a while for you? Yes. Okay. I fucking love cowboys. Like, cowboy movie, fuck. Like, that makes me wet. I'm serious. So we were really excited when Caleb came in. But again, you were a little torn. You're like, but I do have something now with Corbin. Yeah. Something I want your take on that the internet really caught on to was Melanie was screaming the absolute loudest when Caleb came in. And she later told Sincere it was because she was excited for you. But then she was also the first person to pull Caleb for a chat. Yeah. What do you think was going on there? What were her intentions? I think her intentions were good. She was my best friend. She knew I was wanting a cowboy to come in. I don't know if, like, I know she did really, really like Sincere. But I don't know if she kind of also liked Corbin maybe a little bit. And both can be true. So, yeah. I was going to say, can you clarify? Because people online thought it was a bit hypocritical when you got upset at Melanie when she later then went and pulled Corbin. Yeah. Can you talk more about that situation from your perspective? I would love to talk about that. Oh, okay. Tell me. so when we had that kissing challenge when she went back and forth to both of them i had a conversation i was like so did you know that you were kissing him and she said she had no idea she was kissing corbin or sincere or who was who and to me i told her that was really hard for me to believe because you've been kissing sincere for how long and and corbin's a lot bigger yes you know um but uh we talked about that and then she told me that she was not into corbin that corbin was her type to a t but she's very much into sincere she said you have nothing to worry about not pursuing him i'm not going to talk to him like we're good so then the next day we're like pooling and um you know like beaching whatever and then uh she pulls corbin for a chat to talk to him and then i didn't get to talk to her until later that night and i pulled her for a chat and i was like hey i'm just confused because 20 not even 24 hours ago like last night you told me that you weren't going to talk to him that you weren't pursuing him so i'm like i there's a disconnect there i'm confused and she said yeah well that was yesterday like me and sincere are not good anymore so i am going to pursue corbin and so that's why i was so upset because i just felt i felt blindsided and i felt like if she was interested just say you know i am interested in sincere but also i do still want to kind of chat with corbin and i would have been cool with that it would have been it would have been different i don't think we saw that initially conversation between you and melanie and her being like i'm not interested in corbin like me and sincere are good so all we saw was me getting upset you getting upset which makes total sense like i understand why everyone's going crazy because it is like double standard kind of thing like i but i wouldn't have been upset but she was my best friend in there yes so and she had approached you saying i'm not gonna go for that yes and then her and sincere get in a fight and then she's going for corbin and i'm sure to you it kind of felt like wait hold on now is this just like yeah to make sincere jealous or whatever because i actually feel like i have a real connection with this person yeah and i'm like getting finger blasted right before that so it's like it's like i was i was kind of liking him to a point and it's finger blasted the same as french fries yes i was i was i was having fun it's french fries i felt like you're having fun every single night kemsi yeah i mean i'm there i'm at love island for the summer what what are we doing what's what's going on holy shit um it did seem like you and melanie had a few ups and downs this past season what were some other moments when you look back that kind of like tested your friendship um it was definitely that and then right after that soul came in and sincere they had a thing going um and soul was very much like she just felt isolated in there i don't want to like speak for her but she she was having a hard time she was crying a lot and i was like i don't want to like speak for her but i just wanted to be there for her so i started pulling her for chats and i just said hey i want to let you know you have a friend in here and i'm here for you and i think she's beautiful and amazing person um but also at the same time you could there's only so many hours in a day you can only have so many chats with so many people and melanie was pulling trinity and anaya more often so i could only as well talk to so many people as melanie also so it just so happened we didn't have as much time together but of course i wanted to be there for her as a friend so that's why i was so excited to be there for her and i just wanted to be there for her and i just wanted to be there for later when we had that conversation and she was talking about that right did you feel like there was an unsaid dynamic in the villa that if you were friends with soul you were kind of also then going against melanie to some degree yeah um i don't agree with that i like to like i was just trying to be there for someone who needed someone and i think soul's an amazing person i think melanie is an amazing person but melanie had a ton of support already in the villa where i just saw soul and i just wanted to come for her and be there for her did it feel like soul was being treated fairly in the villa i think that it was really hard for her to come in when she did i mean she's a bombshell she really bombed um i don't know i i did feel for her on a couple of days but i think she ended up like getting along with people like after that but just i felt for her yeah where do you and melanie stand now um well right before i left i don't know if they showed this because i haven't seen it but she pulled me for a chat and we talked like we're really great friends i love her since the day before i walked out i remember holding her hand right before the door opened and she's like don't worry they're just as nervous as you and like she was my comfort and she'd had been that comfort i know we went through our ups and downs but i love her down and i'll always support her like she is the best she's an amazing person she's she deserves only nothing but love and i think that's what i'm and that's all i have for her i love her okay back to caleb yeah um it seemed like obviously he thought you were his type he quickly pulled you for a chat now we got to go through this caleb corbin dynamic because babe it was a lot it was a lot and this was like i think what you were getting the most heat for so i want to get into it yeah what was your first impression of caleb and you guys i know you physically connected that first time i think you had a kiss like was the physical attraction there once you had a kiss um the physical attraction was definitely there after we had a kiss i was very much into him and once you guys had that first kiss were you still more into corbin or caleb um yeah so after that first kiss i i still had more of a with corbin on different levels other than just like attraction and just like one initial like i i fall in love by someone speaking to me like in my ears i have to have time with you so on that initial chat with caleb he was like who do you like more me or corbin and i was just like i'm like oh my god um i have a really great connection with corbin and i told him i still wanted to pursue that with him and that i was very unsure but i i really did like corbin and i said i'm very interested in also getting to know you so this was essentially the first love triangle you experienced not only in the villa but in your life yeah um you were in a relationship with him and you were in a relationship with him and you were you said i'm a one person kind of girl i'm confused as fuck right now what do you think was the most difficult part of managing these two connections at once um probably just like stepping on other people's toes in the villa there's other girls there that also want to explore them as well um not knowing like what i can and can't say to either of them it's like it's kind of weird i grew up watching the bachelor like like what he says i love you to how many three girls and i can't talk about me and i can't talk about you and i can't talk about you and i can't talk about my family it's kind of wild like i'm on a love island dating show am i supposed to be having conversations with other guys i don't know like it it's confusing and it's so hard because i'm like i'll be kissing caleb and yeah it's a great kiss but i have a great connection with this other guy and that's why it was so hard for me i'm like my mind can't compute i'm like uh well it is so i agree with you kenzie because what's so weird is i'm also watching uk right now and like everyone's talking about being at home like everyone's like this is what it would be and this is my mom and they're saying that they're not going to be at home and i'm like to multiple of their connections so i also feel like a lot of it is dependent on the cast per season kind of shapes the etiquette around what's appropriate yeah because like the season right before that was nothing like this season nothing nothing so it is interesting that like you were kind of moving what you thought was right and then people would be like what do you mean you talked about your family yeah oh yeah everyone was actually like maybe just don't do that and i was like oh okay but like i was just trying to talk about things outside of here that to see if it would work outside of here because it was real for me and that's that's why i was trying to see what our lives work outside of here i think that makes so much sense also hearing it even more from you now because you're like if we're gonna actually work we need to somewhat talk about our circumstances outside of here we're not going to be in this villa forever why are we chatting about everyone else's couple in here how is that going to bring me any closer to you it's not okay the internet then was like you know what as america we're deciding to break corbin and kenzie out of here and we're going to be up and we're going to put her in a couple with caleb and i think america at first by the time the voting was happening really thought like she should try with caleb yeah and then i think they were like fuck our life wait it feels like she actually really likes corbin we just did her dirty yeah and i remember seeing everyone online being like wait did we just fully fuck kenzie over by voting her um into a different couple in hindsight do you think that fucked up your experience a little bit because it really put pressure on you to give caleb an even bigger shot than maybe you were going to intend to yeah i don't think it like fucked me over in a way because i was also interested in caleb and i like that we got that chance to be together and talk and see how it would go but i was still feeling corbin a lot and i missed being in a connection with him and i wasn't understanding why corbin like we were very kissy and touchy at the pool and all of this and then right when he was coupled up with melanie he's like let's not do any of that and so i was very much confused and then like the night on the like i want to kiss you and so it felt so weird and then caleb was also like watching me out in the dog which i was like that was a lot and we didn't even kiss and then like the whole house blew up no no we know you didn't kiss yeah but the looking from the kitchen we're getting there um we and to clarify would you have chosen to stay in a couple with corbin had it been your choice for the recoupling um i probably would have stayed with corbin yeah okay let's talk about the moment because you're on the dock you tell corbin i want to kiss you he's like oh like i don't know if we should be doing that right now because we're both a new couple yeah he said he wanted to stay like true to melanie which is which is it's nice like that is and she's my friend so i understand um but like at the same time how are you supposed to go from kissing making out doing things in bed to all of a sudden nothing that's what i think was confusing about this year because it was like so are you closed off like or or now you're just in because again i'm watching uk just comparing it and it's like the minute that they flip couples then they're still making out with the other person they're talking to yeah it's just having some respect and over communicating yeah and just communicating with them um because you guys didn't kiss and you're saying obviously there was this moment where you're like what are we doing do you think at all that the separation and the forbiddenness in a way made you even more pulled toward corbin i mean i think that is a hundred points probably true like you always want what you can't have kind of thing um yeah caleb was convinced you guys kissed and he started telling everyone that you guys had kissed um and you went and reassured him that literally never happened you did seem really frustrated and even upset when this accusation kind of started and you said it's hard because i feel like i'm supposed to be exploring both connections when i am feeling like i kind of can't um did you feel like you were supposed to feel in any way like this was hindering your experience and you couldn't be you almost like didn't want to be honest in a way yeah it did make me like be like can i even be honest with him because i felt like he would probably take some steps back and all of our conversations right before the one like that they showed on movie night that was our best conversation and that was that was the deepest we had gotten and i wish it was like that the whole time because when he got back from casa he's like he even told me he we were playing volleyball together and he's like all the guys are saying i really changed and came out of my shell and like i am who i am like and i'm like i wish it was like that the whole time because it just it it wasn't you know shortly after this you end up kissing corbin and you did feel like you needed to keep a secret what was your main reasoning behind that i didn't want the whole house to blow up and neither did he um melanie was sleeping in soul ties uh and i think that it was because she would hear that we kissed and made her feel weird so she would sleep in soul ties she also missed sincere and then caleb it was like you know he was watching me already at the dock he didn't want us to kiss and i was telling him the whole time that i still wanted to pursue corbin so i i was communicating with him so i just didn't understand but i didn't want him to take steps back because i just wanted to move forward if we kept talking about that would just be going in circles just talking about me and corbin with him all the time why do you think caleb was not exploring any other connections when you were so clear that you wanted to explore multiple um i don't know why he didn't explore other connections because i was telling him i'm exploring please explore um i just think that he was coming in for me and that's awesome i did say i want a guy that's all about me so maybe he just thought that it would have worked okay let's clarify that movie night moment you just said movie night we as viewers saw more context that we didn't originally see the next morning after your secret kiss with corbin you had a chat with caleb where you told him i just want to be more focused on you and growing our connection and getting deeper because that's the only way we're going to get closer i think that outside of this our lives would collide very easily and then you and caleb kissed talk to me more about the intentions of that conversation especially after what we saw is that came right after you kissed yeah corbin and kept that a secret the night before yeah um i did just i had no idea there would be a recoupling that night and i did still very much want to pursue caleb and i after we had that conversation that was at the ending of it and i'm like i'm like wow i'm actually getting this energy from him that i had not gotten so i did i was like i was like i'm i'm feeling him like a lot more than i had been for the past couple days and then right after that chat it was like it literally was like recoupling and then it it was me taking a couple of minutes being like who do i like more and it my heart was still with corbin it's just i wasn't able to tell him that and even after i i talked to him after the recoupling and i was like i want you to know like none of that was fake it was all genuine i i do still have feelings for you and he just said he was like well that doesn't matter i guess like what mistakes do you think you made within that dynamic i think i i told him that i did just want to like pursue him and talk to him which i definitely shouldn't have said like that was like that's not fair to him at all and it made him think that i was gonna pick him that night which i feel awful for because he wrote the sweetest letter to me and it broke my heart like to be standing there in front of the mailboxes and see how it went down and just like everything well now he's in vegas like djing and like hanging with harry yammy like he's like i don't know what to do with him i don't know what to do with him i don't know what to do with him he's fine he's fine he's amazing um in that next elimination round where you and corbin did recouple with the mailbox challenge soul and gabe went home but corbin let you know that your name had been considered for elimination and when you confronted the boys casey told you that the reason you are considered is because of you kind of giving similar reasons to gabe you seemed upset by that comparison you said i haven't been as lustful like gabe has been moving how do you think you and gabe moved differently in the villa um i think gabe's an awesome person but he likes to kiss more and you know get into it faster and i do tend to move a little bit slower than him and i don't feel like any of my connections were lustful it was based on an actual communication and talking like me and corbin i wasn't fully into him until after having a conversation with him me and caleb it took a minute for me to be like oh i actually i kind of like him he's cool so yeah that was such a big conversation in the villa this year of like lustfulness like what is the definition of lustful in the villa i feel like lustful is just like you're only attracted to them because of their looks and you look amazing you're hot everyone's hot like what say something about my intelligence say something about my hobbies say something about me and who i am my family yeah um okay let's go to casa more yay this was so big this season honestly every producer we were like you need a raise they did their big one and they did their one like you guys thought that you were getting ready for the heart rate challenge you come down and i actually think it was the worst gift in love island history you guys get a video of the men in casa more yeah having the heart rate challenge with the casa more girls and you're like yeah fuck no like yeah no literally i was just going like our jaws dropped what did you expect to be corbin's experience when you realized he had left before you saw the live stream i thought he definitely had a hard time with the live stream i thought he definitely had a hard time with the live stream i thought he definitely had a hard time with the live stream i thought he definitely wouldn't hold back i didn't think he would i think he would have explored but i thought our connection was really good so i was i was feeling good about our connection in a way yeah yeah we loved the live stream as viewers we were like oh hold these men accountable because we had had so many moments as viewers being like none of these women know what these men are actually saying behind closed doors like put them on blast please understandably you were so angry watching corbin and casey basically joke together about him and immediately leaving you before he even had a conversation with these women he saw them and was like yeah i'm out yeah like i'm completely going back with someone different had you ever been publicly disrespected like this no i've never been publicly disrespected like that um it wasn't just the out of the window thing because apparently he didn't say that it was casey but um yeah i just don't take disrespect like that also my family seeing that um i know what my dad would say he'd be like fuck him like like my husband would never say that so i'm not gonna waste another minute um you kind of didn't waste another minute though because i was gonna say you really handled it with grace babe you um we watched you just basically drop down into the split it was kenzie it was the clam slam that was heard all the way at casa more heard around the world it was like you just everyone's like making their grilled cheese and you're like bam bam i guess we'll eat because there's no men coming in and they're like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry and i'm like ah fuck y'all literally fuck you guys is that typically how you let out your anger i mean it did help it definitely helped and i loved it like shit but i was so pissed like what else am i gonna do i had been one i've all day shaking my ass upstairs in our room my arms were the past three days after that like i was ready to fucking dance i'd been ready to dance since before i came on the show i was like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry heart rate challenge heart rate challenge put me on so i was pissed and then thinking that there was still guys to come in and us to dance on i was like okay where are the men bring them in and then that didn't happen i'm like kenzie what the fuck are you doing with your arms why are your arms so horrible oh i was on the i was on like a chair like twerking that melanie was teaching me how to like ruin my ass so was anaya oh honestly i think everyone was upset that we didn't get to really see you do your big one on that but um i just have to like give you your props for that clam slam because at first i think america was like what is this girl doing why is she always in the splits and then it just became iconic and like i'm assuming you do the splits all the time the time yeah no i do it all the time every morning okay every morning okay after you get disrespected by corbin you i think america was like we fucking love this woman because you were like oh i'm so done i'm so done with that man i don't see anything more i'm completely done you literally woke up the next morning you said i'm gonna wear black for his funeral today i am never talking to him again typically is that how you respond in your life when a man disrespects you yeah typically i do um act like that it's from my parents and just my self-worth that i get from them and i just i don't fuck with it i don't fuck with that energy i'm not i'm not gonna shed a single tear and i'm fucking glad i never did over him i feel like so many people caught on to that where they were like it feels like kenzie has such a good relationship with her parents that you could just feel your relationship even with your dad like it's so precious like can you talk a little bit more about what he's instilled in you yeah so him and my mom like they go on dates every single week he pursues her all the time and i know my man will do the same thing and he would my man will never talk down on me or disrespect me in front of his friends don't matter if he's with his boys that does not fucking matter and that pisses me off like your man can't say whatever he wants just with that's so disrespectful and i'm just not gonna take shit like that no one deserves a woman deserves to be treated like that no one are you someone i know you didn't have your phones in the villa but like would you hit him with the block would you ghost him like what's your blocked blocked straight away blocked i'm done you're just setting them the hard block yeah cold turkey bye okay we need to get to dylan yes dylan so while corbin's off and casa more doing his thing you turned your attention to the new boys and you meet dylan what was like a immediately attracting you to him um his looks and then also i mean i mean look at him he's fucking hot as fuck he's definitely my type and then he was the first guy that came up to me and he was like hey i'm dylan like i want to talk to you i can't wait to chat and i'm like okay he's been all about me since day one and put that out there i even saw that he like drew when we got to draw the people he drew me in a split like he drew literally me and everyone was just like you know this is love island you gotta like go on and he's like no i i like her like i'm going for her and he thought me and corbin were in a great relationship so he thought that because he hadn't seen the live or anything like that i didn't know how open i was to pursuing okay another boy that immediately caught your eye was gall yes how did you feel about exploring him when you also knew jen was also going to explore him yeah so at first i wasn't really interested in gall the first thing he said to me i was like i i definitely was attracted to him i saw him and i was like um hi i'm 24 my name's kenzie and he's and he's like oh i was like how old are you he's like i'm 30 but like basically was saying like 24 was too young and i'm like well i'm one of the oldest in that in the villa but okay good luck baby so i just turned literally like paid him no more attention the rest of the day but of course i thought he was attractive um he would be my type out of this as well like i think he's he's fine um and he's a nice guy but after that in the like we would be very much flirty and chatty with me saying that he wanted to chat and i was all for it i was like i didn't know that there was anything between us but after talking i was like i'm here on love island i'm gonna talk to men dude you got yourself in another pickle because basically you eventually had the opportunity to chat with gall the vibe was there you two kissed pretty soon after you told dylan this and you admitted this to him but i do think it's important to clarify you had told dylan and basically every single person in the villa that you wanted to explore gall and see if anything was there and there was no dishonesty this time there was nothing of that sort and then when you told him dylan started to cry what was your reaction to him getting so upset even though you had been so honest yeah um i think that me and dylan just had an amazing day that day and we got really deep in the conversation so i don't i don't fault him for his feelings were so valid um i was wanting to have that conversation with gall days before it happened um but we got so close and seeing him emotional like that i was like wow this guy actually cares about me i was just in a relationship a week before with corbin where he flipped on a dime so it didn't i i didn't know if this was real for anyone else like it was for me and then that helped me let down my guard with him because i was like damn he cares about me yeah dude how did you feel when you saw that all of america thought that he was giving fake tears i know that actually crushed my heart it really really did crush my heart because i don't think anything about him is fake at all and even since we got off like the first thing i said to him was like do you still like me and he's like yeah of course like i was honestly scared and then in our hotel room we've basically been in the hideaway like every single day and he is exactly the same as he is off camera and even his friend brandon said that and that helped so much on family day when he i was like oh my gosh like finally like this guy's true he's real he's not doing it for the fucking cameras he's not yeah and he's not even seeing that people were saying he's an actor like what he's been in one music video like he didn't even say a word what are you talking about it's like in a camaro or some shit and he's like they flip in the car and he's like making out with yeah yeah i was just like oh my god um okay let's go back to movie night quickly when the video showed the clips between caleb and corbin where you basically told corbin when i was kissing him i was thinking of you and then we see you say to caleb i feel like i have more in common with you than i do with corbin yeah what was going through your head when you had to watch this in front of all of your peers oh my god i was like fuck no literally i was like this is about to be so but honestly seeing it i was like okay that was that was shitty of me and i shouldn't have gone about it and said certain words that i did and i could see more of why caleb felt so let on and it it did make me feel awful and i just i wanted to take that time like i i was processing it and i'm like okay like that i'm sorry i i didn't want to hurt anyone well i think it was refreshing because you took accountability right away and we watched that movie night so many people be like well but you were immediately like yeah i fucked up i was wrong yeah but i think something that rubbed people the wrong way was it felt like dylan was kind of just like adding on to the fire because he was like i just felt like i watched the entirety of last night on repeat what was confusing is from what we understood the casa boys like saw a lot of this season prior to them coming in so he was fully aware of how you had been moving in the dynamic with caleb and corbin what how did it feel to kind of have your character be questioned by someone you were in a relationship with yeah definitely or a couple with yeah it didn't feel good um i had conversations with him and i was like that hurt that you did jump in on that but at the same time it was in front of his face more like that was just in front of my face and i could see how i was doing that it's different i feel like when you're just watching it and also i knew he was scared because he doesn't want me to do that to him and i probably would feel the same way if i was watching it on the other side and he kept harping on it but i do think now again i think we all as viewers have to recognize there's such heightened emotions in this villa and there's so much going into it that it's like seeing it in 4k yeah it's gonna cause a lot of emotions yeah the girls in the villa really let you know they did not approve of how you were moving kata went as far to say it's giving sincere what did it feel like to hear that definitely hurt but i i listened to them like i hear them out and if that's how everyone was seeing it then i'm gonna take it with a grain of salt but yeah it hurt i was very emotional crying in the shower a lot like just feeling hurt jayden was the only one that came up to me and was like i don't think you did anything wrong babe and i i lost her later during the compatibility challenge and that sucked and then like jen she tells me straight up that i'm not the only one that did anything wrong and then like jen she tells me straight up how she feels but she always supported me and yeah it was hard aside from the one secret kiss you had you were so up front with caleb sincere was repeatedly lying to melanie and essentially everyone in the villa and casa more through his entire experience what are some examples that you can give that highlights how different your situation was to sincere's yeah i feel like he did lie a good bit to not only melanie but like some other people and i think that's a really good example i think that's a really good example i think that's a really good example and i think that's a really good example and i think that's a really good example and i think that's a really good example and i think that's a really good example and i think that's a really good example and like the challenge too um i never called them any names uh like fake promises um and i tried to be as open as possible to who i was talking to and i know he said something about like when he was in casa about like it was a test for him a little bit which i don't ever feel like any of my connections were at me testing another connection with someone and i think that's a really good example of someone else it was just me seeing if we could connect on that level there was never any who's better kind of thing who you know quickly after movie night We saw a lot of the women in the villa support Sincere, even being like, I'm team Sincere, like fully supporting him even after watching him on 4K. Why do you think the girls were holding you to a different standard? I don't know why the girls were holding me to a different standard than Sincere. Especially like after getting out, it does feel like sexist almost because I'm like, I'm not a male and it's like I can't move like them maybe. I don't know. It was hard. I didn't feel that supported at that time, except from like Jaden. Did you feel like, because I can imagine, Kenzie, like you're blindsided again, not only because they're treating you that way, they're supporting Sincere, who is doing 10 times worse than you. Like, do you feel like that impacted your friendships for a little bit? Yeah, probably a little bit, just when you don't feel as supported. As you want to feel from your friends. But we did get over it and we talked about it. But yeah, definitely hurt. Is there any moment that comes to mind from your Love Island experience where you felt like you were being judged for exploring completely unfairly, considered what the men were doing in the villa? Like another double standard that you can think of. Probably just like my love triangles and just getting shit on and me feeling like I couldn't talk. I wasn't allowed to talk to two. People at once talk like it just made no sense in my mind. I'm like, where are we right now? I'm I'm very confused and feeling like I was just getting shit on over and over for exploring when no one was closed off. So it's like that's I think a lot of the viewers felt that way and they were frustrated in some capacity with the season. I think people loved when soul was like, this is couples island. You guys are not even two weeks in. Yeah, let's open it up a little bit. So I could see where that would be frustrating. I want to do some rapid fire with you. Yes. Okay. Who do you think was the strongest couple? Kata and Zach. Who do you think played it the most safe? Shit. Maybe like Melanie and sincere. Okay. What's your number one flirting tip? Um, winking, looking at doing the triangle when you look at one eye, you look at the other eye and you look at their lips. Oh, my God. You just did it to me. I was like, oh, I like that. Yes. When you got your phone back, who was the most surprising person in your DMS? Shit. I haven't even looked at my DMS. That so shows you have a man. I'm dead. You've been so hold up with your man. You're not even worried. Who do you wish you would have kissed and you didn't? Um, I, I kissed everyone. Okay. I kissed everyone. Have you seen that Corbin doubled down calling you sincere in his post Villa interviews? I saw that. How do you feel about that? Um, no comment. Okay. No comment. Fuck that. Fuck that. Okay. Um, where do you and Zach stand today? Are you guys friends? People had like a misunderstanding about that. Me and Zach are besties. He's funny as fuck. And I love Kata. I would always third wheel with them there. I don't think that they showed that as much, but yes, after we had that little tiff, I didn't talk to him for a week, week straight. And I wouldn't let him look in my eyes. That is true. I was like, the only thing this man commented on me was my fucking eyes. So you're not going to be able to see it. Like literally, I'm not looking at you. But after that, we did talk. I told him that, you know, I was sorry, but I'm not going to waste my time on a guy that's not interested in me. I'm going to explore my options. That's why I was talking to Sean more like I'm obsessed with your walk around with your eyes closed. You're like, don't look at me. I know. He's like, can I put you for a chat? I'm like, dude, no, I don't know if you've obviously seen the Internet, but there is a lot of conversation around Melanie and sincere. Do you think Melanie should stay with sincere? I think Melanie deserves the world, but I love sincere. I do. He's an amazing person, but I think Melanie deserves. Is he an amazing person? He's a. He's a good person. I just don't know if they're great together. OK. And maybe they played it a little safe. Yeah, because she was always just for him, kind of like she always just wanted him. But I don't know if sincere play it safe, but he did not. He did not play it safe. Where were you when Titi and Trinity were fighting at the fire pit? Titi and Trinity. You and Melanie. It looked like. Did you leave the fire pit? Are you allowed to say? I'm not sure. Honestly, I might have been taken. I was taking a shit or something. There's no way you left. They were mid fight. And it seemed like you weren't at the fire pit. Were you at the fire pit? No, I was at the fire pit then. I was. Oh, you were. Yes, I was. When Titi entered. She was like, I'm Titi. You were there. I was at the fire pit. I was like this. I was like, holy crap. She was like, oh, you're a little girl. I was like, oh, fuck. OK, you were there. Yeah, you were there the whole time. Yeah. OK, good to know. We needed to hear that. Yeah, I never left. No, you weren't taking a shit. No. How did you feel about Trinity calling Zach and Kate's exclusivity a situationship? OK, I don't agree with that. I really don't. Exclusive, being exclusive. That's what my parents said. They were like, I just see it as my parents were dating for seven months. The first thing my dad said to my mom is, can we please be exclusive? Because they were dating other people. And that's a step in the right direction to me. And he, Zach, he just wants to ask her outside of here and have it just be. And I think that's like romantic as fuck. He wants to do something more romantic with her. So I don't agree with that comment. Great. Like a situationship is when you're like with a fucking group of friends and you're just fucking like. And it's like, oh, you're hot. You're hot. I'm hot. What is this lingering beef with Parmita? I don't know. I don't know. I feel like I've apologized a ton of times, so I don't know what more I can do. And then when I said, like, I love you to her, it's because she was. And I just wanted to give her compassion and love at that time. And then using it against me. I don't know. I don't know. I know. I was actually shocked. I like after son. Well, your response was so fucking perfect. Were you surprised when on after son Titi said that she wouldn't be friends with certain people after the villa? I was a little surprised, but I do get where she's coming from. Because after we did the music or like the little karaoke dance, she she felt like a lot of people were shocked by her. Her being chosen her and Casey, which I think we were just kind of more shocked that Kata and Zach weren't in the top four than that. But I think that, of course, her feelings are valid. There's reasons she feels the way she feels. So, OK, you guys, after Post Villa went to Hibachi the other night and a video started circulating from Soul's live stream. Someone's talking about Melanie in the background. We hear something along the lines of it was always the Melanie show. Some anyone who was close. To her got to stay like it sounded like light shit talking. There was speculation at first. It was you. Then there was speculation. It was Jaden. Tell us what happened. Me and Jaden were definitely like talking about them, but not in a awful way. Like I fucking love Melanie and I'm going to stand by her. She definitely I feel like we were just saying she did did get a lot more screen time than a lot of other people who were in couples that like wanted to talk. But it was never any shit talking about her. I would never talk shit about myself. My girl and Jaden likes her as well. So do you think that people are going to think that you got like that's like, oh, you guys are jealous because she just got screen time. I mean, they can think that that's fine. But that's that's what we were like talking about. So you were just talking about how she got more attention. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen all of the brands being like, we will literally give you a year supply of this or we'll give you a car. We'll give you free whatever if you leave sincere. No. Oh, my God. You need to open your phone. Oh, my. Oh, my God. No, it's a lot. Kenzie, it's a lot. That's insane. OK. Like, what is the biggest difference between day one Kenzie and Kenzie sitting here now? I've changed so much. It's crazy. I still feel like I'm the same exact person, but I've learned how to communicate better. I think going in, I wasn't able to do that as well. And getting everyone's feedback, my girls, the guys, I feel like I've changed and I've grown this experience that like social experiment or whatever the fuck you want to call it. I'm just I mean, even even all the hate or whatever. It's just like I didn't know I would act so positively about it. I'm just being like, I'm just going to I don't I don't feel anything from it. I'm like, God knows who I am. My family knows who I am. My family's proud of me. And that's all that matters. And my friends like I have them like I've gained so much from this. Even just talking to you, girl, I fucking love you. No, I love you. And I really hope that the energy stays the same because I know that post Villa there can be. So much drama that comes even more drama somehow, but it seems like you're really happy you and Dylan announced that you are exclusive. Obviously, I know that you live on the East Coast as he lives on the West Coast. Like, are we doing long distance? What are we doing? I don't want to do long distance. I want to move here. I was thinking even before the show, I wanted to be a nurse in Miami or California, and everyone was always like, well, good luck with that girl. How are you going to? How are you going to do that? You'll be just fine. - Yeah, but now I definitely want to live over here. - Wait. are you going to continue to pursue nursing or do you think you're going to lean into like la hollywood i think i'm gonna do a little bit of both um i want to continue doing classes online and keep my education going i also need to take the NCLEX like soon i don't know when i'm gonna have time to study right now i'm like i feel like my eyes haven't shut since i've left the fucking villa but that is definitely on my bucket list i want to do that and then continue nursing classes have you seen everyone saying that you need to go on dancing with the stars yes uh are you do you like watch dancing i love dancing with the stars ever since i was like two my parents would watch me like sit on the my feet wouldn't even reach the end of the couch and i would just sit watching the whole thing for hours i wouldn't move like that's what also got me into dancing later i i love to dance love watching them oh i can love them so you would say that's one of like your top priorities if you could like do something crazy outside of the villa dancing with a star priority it would be dancing with the stars 100 i really like that for you thank you um what do you hope thinking about it obviously you just got out of the villa but where do you hope you are a year from now when the next season of love island starts and i have no idea maybe i just want to be in like hawaii and have some like have some smoothie acai bowl with dylan and then hopefully you know be boyfriend girlfriend i want to maybe one day have surf babies i want to learn how to surf too i told him i was talking to him last night i was like i want to have five he's like five i'm like yes and then we're gonna adopt too so wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait we're adopting but not just yet but like i do okay wait and have you guys like hooked up on the beach yet that is coming soon and i've been waiting to do that we're about to do that can you make sure you bring a blanket because as great as it sounds kenzie the sand in the no i'm not i'm not trying to say that your whole fantasy isn't going to be great yeah just like bring some situation so it's not just sand in the vagina thank you i got you i got you i got you i got you yeah i got you have you ever had sex in the sea in the sea yeah no no i haven't had sex in the sea is that something you're now adding to the bucket list i was also asking him like should we do it there too like we'll see this man is like i love my life so fucking much dude i'm dying is there anything left that you feel like maybe was misinterpreted from your time in the village just from little things that you're seeing that you're like oh i really want to clarify this because i don't think it's an indication of who i am yeah i think there's only like so much that they can show because there's 24 you know 24 hours a day you're showing one hour of how many people it looks at the beginning like i'm like this blonde bimbo uh sex addict where i'm like that's not me they they didn't get to see all of me and i'm just hoping that people can see who i am now because that i i definitely do make jokes like that and it's fun and i'm i'm witty and weird like that i'll say that but that's not all of me right it's like yeah it's a tv show there's so many different cast members so you're only going to get so much time to actually put together your personality what did your dad and mom think about how you were portrayed my dad was like damn like that's not that's not all of her at all they were thinking that they're just not showing my whole me and who i am and i think that's what was amazing about family day is that people could see where i came from and how much i love them no i'm so happy for you kenzie i will just say like i hope the best for you i think now having met a lot of people obviously when i interview them from love island there's so much attention that comes with all of this and i wish you the best in navigating it i can imagine it's overwhelming going from a summer with no phone to now the world is watching you and i am sending you all the good vibes truly like seriously you deserve the best and i'm so happy we got to meet i'm so happy we got to meet you have no fucking idea still fangirling over here i feel like i'm in a damn dream thank you like let pinch me alex cooper's talking to me and she's pregnant like i'm in a dream bro i'm gonna watch your dick sucking video right after this i'm actually dying kenzie thank you so much for coming on caller daddy you're a queen so much for having me i love you you're a queen so much for having me i love you