Kenan Thompson

Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang. I talk to the amazing, kind, hilarious Keenan Thompson today. And we talk about some really fun stuff. We talk about Eddie Murphy and how important he was to both of us. We talk about learning how to ice skate and how it is hard and Keenan is good at it. We talk about how we partied really hard and how we suffered because of it. And we talk about, can I wear sunglasses on the red carpet? Am I allowed? Is that cool? And the answer is no. So we're going to talk to Keenan today, cannot wait. And before we do, we always check in with somebody who knows our guest, who wants to speak well behind their back, who wants to give me a question, ask them. And that person is world superstar, Maya Rudolph. Maya Rudolph joining me today from Zoom. You know, just, I don't know, comedy legends, whatever, no big deal, friend of the pod. Let's see what Maya's up to. And check in on that cutie pie, Maya. 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You know what I would give for one of those mugs? Right. You know what we were looking? This is going to, this is really ADHD and this is going to take us on a completely different tangent. It doesn't matter. We're just looking up this morning by Centennial 31 flavors slash Basque and Robbins by Centennial ice cream flavor. And do you know what some of them were? Wait, so we're just set that this is nice. This is 1976 flavors 76 for the bicentennial, right 31 flavors a K now known as Basque and Robbins. Or is it the other way around? It's like, I think it's the other way around now it's they don't, they have more than 31 flavors. Right. Yep. Um, one of them was called Valley Fudge. Valley Fudge. Valley Fudge. Mm hmm. What was another one? Maya. Oh God. No, I got to look it up again. One pie was, one was Apple pie. Alamoed. Yeah. Sure. That's cute. Cute. But like, give me Valley. Give me one more. I'll thank you, minute, minute. You know, Jen X has lived, we live, we were alive. I was alive during the bicentennial and here we are celebrating 250 years and boy has America never been better. That's exactly how I feel. Yeah. I mean, you think about how far we've come. Wow. Far we've come. And how much we fixed. That should be the slogan. We fixed a lot. We're talking at Keenan Thompson today and I'm so psyched that I'm talking to you because you and Keenan are linked in a lot of ways for me. Like, I think some of my most fun and most tender and funniest moments are watching the two of you perform like you guys really have a connection. How would you explain it? You know when you meet your people and you can't really find words for it. So you just feel like you've known the person your whole life. I always feel that when I see Keenan, I feel like he's always been there and we don't have to say anything. There's a relaxation that comes over me when I see him when I watch him. Yes. It's like watching an incredible musician. You know that you're in good hands and you can't wait to see what they're going to bring you because you know it's going to be masterful and amazing, but it's also going to fill you with like a joy. It's relaxing. I just feel that way about watching Prince on stage. I'd get relaxed because I was like, he can do anything. He can do anything. Keenan, I'm instantly, instantly like warmed and already giggling a little bit. There's a twinkle in his eye that says it all. Yes, Maya. It's so true. There's a twinkle. Such strong memories of inviting him into our dirty, dirty office and sit on the floor on his knees or something like, I mean, we lived like disgusting college students, Amy. Yes. And you too. That was your perch. That was the best. That was the best perch. Bringing friends into that and giggling till four in the morning. I remember so clearly writing stuff with him. If I bring it up now, I'll probably get canceled what we were writing. But it was so fun and all we did was laugh, all we did was laugh, like listening to songs and finding the little tiny minute things and then going in and laughing. Oh, I mean, a great example of that is one of my favorite characters and sketches at The National Ever, which is TT and Mario. TT and Mario. So for people that didn't ever watch TT and Mario, how would you explain who TT and Mario were? It's a great, thank you for asking me. TT and Mario is a duo from your childhood past that is so, they sing the most beautiful love songs that are so raunchy and disgusting. They think they're very loving. Yes. They are romantic. And a couple with children, they've been together for a very long time. And sometimes one might say that sometimes they need the music to make things fun again. And what I love about them is they always start so beautiful and so romantic. And then maybe ten or fifteen seconds in, they start talking about each other's booty and how tight it is. Yeah. There's a lot of booty play involved and TT and Mario serenaded you in the hospital. That's right. And Archie was born. That's right. I want to talk to Keenan about it because it was so, it was like, if I could have picked two, I couldn't have picked two better people when I was in a postpartum haze to be singing at me. Perfect. Then you guys, it's funny. I'm excited to interview Keenan because there's a lot I actually don't know about him. He's he's more of a coyote, more of a coyote, more of a, he's more of an observer. And a mirror than he is sometimes a shareer. Do you have any questions for me today that you would like to hear Keke talk about? I mean, we're different ages in terms of like art influences, but he was so like well-formed when we met him, like I want to know what he was doing. I know he was performing as a young person, but like, how did that, how did that get in there? It's like, oh, I know when I'm, when I'm big, I'm going to be this, like, how did those influences create the Keenan that we know because I feel like he came out like this. I can't imagine him any other way. I also just want to know, like, I know you're going to ask him about like, how do you keep a fresh Keenan? Totally. I mean, I'm so curious about like, what do you not go to or do anymore? I mean, after 22 years of the show, like, you know, how have you, how have you like bypassed? Yeah. How does the system work for you? Yeah. I'm curious. I feel like he might, he might actually be experiencing like the, like, the dream of Asinal because if you've been there long enough to be like, hey, guys, I'm going to have to go this way. Yeah. It's probably the dream. I know. That's probably why would you ever leave it so much you ever like he figured it out. Yeah. Does he crack the code? And I want to know what he cracked. I think there's, there's gold behind those doors. But like, little Keenan is always what I think about. And I'm most, and I didn't know little Keenan and I'm curious, like, I guess I equate it to when we were little, like, we would do plays in our living room and things like that. Like, was he just the guy who made his friends laugh? He the Guy. was like, 'cause he's always been so steady and so funny. And it feels like, where does that charm come from? - Okay, so I'm gonna ask Kenan about Little Kiki, which we all know, Little Kenan's probably the cutest kid we've ever seen. - On Earth, like hands down. And because I like knowing if that person knew that that person was gonna be the person we know today, and I feel like it's a yes. I feel like, that guy always knew. - I feel that way about you too, Maya. Like I feel like seeing Little Maya on a home movie, like singing into a microphone. You knew that too. - That's all I wanted. I just wanted a microphone in the laugh with my friends. - Yeah, and look at you guys singing together about putting whipped cream on each other's business. - That's all I want for America. - For them to put whipped cream on each other's business. - All we want is for Valley Fudge to make a comeback. - Honestly, yeah, don't you love this angle? I mean, I picked a great angle. My neck looks like-- - You actually look great. What does it say in your shirt? - Aurora's place. - Oh, it's my favorite restaurant in my pie. - Maya just dropped the phone down her shirt by accident. - Wow, oopsie. - Yeah, exactly. - Oh no, it fell down my pants. - Do you kids want to see what happens when my phone fell? - I feel like relaxed and smiling 'cause we're talking about Kena. - You know where I mean? - Totally. - I love you. - I love you. - Bye, Mama, thanks. - Bye. - This episode is brought to you by Subaru. 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I knew that would be a thing. - Well, no, because I was gonna say, I'll put some on too, if it would make you-- - Would you like it? - I don't have any, but I could wear some. I would like them off, 'cause I wanna see your beauty. - Of course. - It's good to see you. I just feel cool when I wear them. - I do too. - I feel cool. - Okay, what did you mean? - Look at this. (laughing) - Come on. - Okay, let me explain as Kena. - That is for you. - Okay, Kena brought me a slice of cheese pizza. - I think it's an artistic expression of the pizza rat. - Oh, it's pizza rat. - Thanks a lot. - There's a rat riding a slice of cheese. So this is the first time I've had a fake food that moves, like in any way, this is great. - And it almost reflects us, 'cause I feel like we're such fun, kind of like life lovers of like a good time. - Cause it's true. - Kinda it just reminds me of like us as characters, so. - Kena, and then you have to kind of, you gotta get a go. - Yeah, just pull it back. - For those listening, we're pulling it back. - And then it goes, we'll pull it back over stronger. (laughing) Come on. (laughing) - And you can't break it. So long story short, I went shopping and I thought of you. I saw it and I thought of you. And I've been holding on to it before I even know I was booked on here. - No way, Kena. - Just fingers crossed holding back. One day I would get to come sit in the throne. - Okay, well, I'm gonna put it in the room. - Oh my God, you know, we gotta add it. Thank you, Jenna. I'm gonna put this on my wall. - Damn, put it down. Put that down. Oh, look at the placement. - Brut is set of placement. That is, that's super bold. - That is-- - Okay, a lot of money for this. - Fire an Allen placement. (laughing) - Yo, man, the best. - Kena Thompson is here. - Hi. - Hi, how are you doing? - I'm great. - You doing this on both coasts? - Yeah, we get to do it in LA in New York, which is the best. You just get to do whatever you are. - Yeah, and convenient for like, guessing people I'm guessing. - Yeah, really can be. - Yeah. - Good job. - Congrats on the golden. Who gets a gold for a podcast? - No one does. - Exactly. - No one does. - Just a. - Exactly. That's amazing. Congrats to everyone, you guys. That's really cool. - Congrats to podcasting. - Yeah, wait, go podcast. (laughing) Come on, Spotify. - Do you have a podcast, right? - I did a podcast for a long time with a buddy of mine. - Yeah, what was it about? - It was just two black guys existing in America. In the name of the love of Hollywood and stuff like that. - Do you listen to podcast? - Yeah, I listen to podcast. I listen to yours. I just caught up with the Lonely Island, 'cause-- - So funny. - I did a guest appearance because of the rebar episode. And then I was like, "Wait a minute, let me look at how long they've been doing this." And I went back to the beginning. And it is a long ride. And God bless those guys for just showing up and they're so funny. - Showing up, barely showing up. - Barely showing up. - It's hard to get all four of them on the line. - Oh, it rarely happens. And it's such a treat. - Totally. - But they're coming through like such good memories, you know? - I know, I felt the same way. It was like really good to go back in time. And we've so much to talk about, Keene. 'Cause we were on the show together for-- - Oh, like six years. - Six years, which now was the first six miles of your marathon, basically. - Yeah, when did you depart? - I left in 2008. - Yeah, it was like a five year. 'Cause I started in '03. So-- - Well, I mean, getting to work with you is some of my most favorite times. And I want to talk to you about it today because you're so attached to so many important moments in my life. - Thank you. And likewise, like I talk about my sisters all the time, like I consider y'all like, you know, such that like get out of my room kind of like-- - Yeah. - But also like straighten up and don't come like playing games. That's why I was like, I was ready to take my sunglasses off. So, this is not a game. - I was like, Keene and take it. I'm like your bossy older sister. - Let me just analyze. Are you gonna keep those on the whole time? Are you gonna wear your sunglasses to mom's birthday? - Yeah, yeah. - You're so right. We do have a very, there is a very sisterly quality with you and a lot of the women that you performed with during my time. And then you've gone, your family dynamic at S&L has changed from like younger brother to like elder statesmen. - I'm like grandpa at this point. - Yeah. - Yeah, I'm Gramsey. Hey, Gram Grams. Good morning. - Yes, grandpa. - Yes, I'm now. - Grandpa's feet hurt. - Don't tell him. - This is too less for grandpa. Yeah. - Okay, I'm gonna take you back in a little time machine. It's a little Keenan. Because the teeny tiniest little version of Keenan knew pretty early that he wanted to be a performer. You're one of three kids. You're the middle. - Yeah, but my sister's my half sister. - Okay, cut it. - Just for Tech McCallic's sake, that's why we grew up with it. - You grew up with it. - 14 years apart. So were you then, were you the baby then? - I was the baby. - Okay, that makes more sense. That makes more sense. - Just reckless and fearless. And just strange like kind of ignorant confidence, if you will. - Do you remember the very beginning? I feel like a lot of performers have this feeling like they remembered that sparkle that they got when they got like attention or looked at. Do you remember that like earlier time? - I mean, I talk about it all the time. It was the gingerbread man, you know? I'm like in kindergarten. - Yes. - I'm like in the graduating play, but like I was a gingerbread man, you know what I mean? Like I wasn't the stove. - Yes. - So it wasn't awakening. Because in rehearsal, it was just like learning lines and like it's got to do this thing or whatever. But once I saw people there and then I recognized my mom and my mom was smiling. And you know, she was so happy and like excited. And she just made me like perform more. And then like, you know, the audio of hearing laughter, like after something I said, I'm like, oh, wow, what is this? - Totally. - Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it. - Like the feeling of just like getting, feeling a little bit taller when you were, when people were looking at you. - I mean, look at us and that we're still, just fishing for laughs constantly. - I feel so good. - It's so embarrassing, you know. - God bless. - It's so true because, and I read that you were, you were a total and- - That's what I'm saying. I got really hooked on trying to do something that, that gains laughter. I just wanted to put those away. Because they were OCDing me a little bit. - First of all, these glasses are gorgeous. - Thank you. Those are Gucci glasses. - Of course they are. - And I get it now, I get it what you mean about being able to talk behind the sunglasses. - Yeah. - Do you think I could pull off and we'll get to your life? But do you think I can pull off? - I contact his intense. And you can pull off anything. - No, but you can pull off sunglasses on the red carpet, right? That's cool, a shit. - I have made it a thing to where like, I'm just fine with if they're mad about it or not. Because I feel like Jack was the coolest and he never took sunglasses off. - So true. - And I'm like, that means you don't have to. - But wouldn't it look like I just recently had eye surgery if I was like, (laughing) - Only in the beginning. - Right. - Then you make it a thing. - And once it's a thing, it's just like, oh, that's her artistic expression. Or what I mean. whatever kind of like excuse you can get away with. - You're so right. Okay, Wizard, I just want to get back to Toto for a second. You played Toto. - I played Toto because all the parts were taken. And I was like, well, nobody's going to be the dog. And this is a church play on the south side of Atlanta. I'm sure we didn't have many like, terriers to choose from. So I was like, I'll do the dog. Like, why man? I just want it to be down. - There's a lot of people I've talked to that have been in the Wizard of Oz in different ways. What did you bring to the role? - Well, this was the whiz. So it was fantastic. - It was even more fun. - Yes, the music and everything. And I brought tenderness to the role when Dorothy needed it. I remember like cuddling up to her and like the whole church being in it. You know, this is a small, like, maybe like 100 people maybe something like that. And to feel all of them acknowledge my performance in that way was like, yes, it's a dig thing, you know? And like there's a moment where everybody like runs to the back of the church when the scene is over to set for the next scene. And like, I've been crawling around on all four. So they left me and I was just like, oh snap, like they're all going, I can't go. So I stood up as a dog and ran and that got a laugh. - Can it? - Just like fucking swinging on that one. - I don't mean to be like jumping, like comparing your story to mine, but I had a similar experience. I was Dorothy. We had a real dog and there's a moment in the scene where Dorothy's supposed to have a tornado. Like the tornado's supposed to come and she's supposed to go total, total, where are you? But I was holding the dog. I was like, this is, we didn't go over this part. So I put the dog down, walked a few feet away and I said, total, total, where are you? Big laugh. - Huge laugh because everybody watched you process that and you stuck with it and committed to like continuing the world. Man, improv is the greatest coolest thing I wish I would have gone to one of the schools for-- - I know, you feel like from that style and family. And did you know any actors growing up? - No, it was such a distant dream. The best I would have thought would be like a commercial, like a national, like a publics. You know, when I was starting a book that was in the beginning, you know, Sonic, like whatever kind of, like I thought that was kind of the, you know, the mountain I would be on kind of. - And was it your mom that was taking you those mostly? - Yeah. - Yeah, and she was just like-- - My mom's so dedicated, she got a job at the Alliance Theatre School, so I could take classes. She got like a side gig there, like, as an, like, answering the phone or like some kind of like office assistant. You know, so I could take classes at a discount or whatever it was, like, the acting thing I just, I just loved it. - You loved it. I mean, the theme I feel like of today's talk and you, Kenan, is like, you feel like everywhere you arrive, like, is the, like, timing is so important in your life career and in the way you perform. I think you have the best timing of anyone I've ever worked with. - Oh, thank you. - Your timing is incredible. The way you know how to play moments and the way you know how to play life, 'cause life is its own game. You have to figure out how to play. And I'm just in awe of your timing. - Oh, man. And so-- - I guess I'm the second one to start crying. - Oh! - Shout out to Seth. - Seth, cry, cry, cry. - Oh my God, Seth. So easy to get that guy. - The best. - The best. - But it's so, like, but it, but because of that, I look at your life and your career, which is still we're in the middle of it. We're not, which, but like, and the way in which wherever you are, was where you were supposed to be at the time. - And weirdly enough, it's always felt that way. You know what I mean? Like, I've never been like overly pressed. Like, that's an audition was extreme. But like, on the way to that, for some reason, everything felt done already. Like, I already have this job. Like, I already have made my friends, you know, before even like met all that cast. I was just like, I feel like this is mine to do kind of things, you know? - Yes, yes, it was like, that's exactly right, Kenan. And it's like, it feels like every opportunity for you felt like you were meeting the opportunity when it was meeting you. And when you were, I mean, you were, you were on TV when you were, what, 11, 12 doing like movie reviews. - That was like a real job. Like, when I first like was dipping my toe in the water, we would like, kids going along with the news anchored to this new like exhibit at the zoo. Like, it was like about dinosaurs. And they did like a little mini special about that. Like, that was like the beginning. So I was like, this is just playtime. We could be in the zoo after hours kind of like, that's cool. - Right. - But like real news for kids, I was like, oh snap, I have like an ID badge. Like I get to like, to have that so young. It just pointed me confidently in the direction of like, this is kind of what I feel like I should be doing. And then all kind of kids met stuff started happening. Like, my first review was the first Mighty Ducks movie. - No way. - Like almost a year to the day I got to audition for the second one. And ended up like making it in. And then the director knew the producers from the Nickelodeon shows and they like connected me to that. So that audition, I was real cocky. You know? - Like, hey guys, hey old friends. - What do you need? You need a Jamaican? I got you. - It's interesting 'cause you look young. You still look young. - Thank you. - Isn't it nice to now- - And like why is what we're supposed to be saying? - No, no, no, no. - That maybe with the sunglasses on. - Put the glasses on. (laughing) - Would it be weird if I wore those glasses a cane and like a boot and went to a red carpet? - Well, that's when people are starting to worry. - Yeah, and like a wrist, like one of those. - And like what did she fall down on the beach? - And half my face is sunburned. But you had a, you have and had a baby face, but you definitely had a poise of someone much older than you. Like I'm curious if you've always felt your age. I mean, a lot of kids who are acting at a young age, especially like making money for their family and being around adults most of the time, but you had the kind of pleasure and privilege of working on a show with a bunch of other kids. - Yes. - So you were with people your own age pretty much. - Yes. - Do you feel older or younger than your age? Like what is your size? - I've always felt like an old man. Like I feel like I came right from something that happened in the 70s and I stayed kind of connected to the 70s and I don't want to like, it's my favorite era. And like, yeah, I feel like Torres energy just, capitalizes on that and I'm very relaxed and just chill and like don't want to be that not too loud. Please, everybody just, everybody settle down. Please, so like I can't handle it. - Do you feel like you're right now? - I'll talk me in restaurants and it's just love it, but when they shout my name, I'm like, please. - Yeah, you don't like that. - I know that about you. And your influences were like that too. Like Richard and- - Sure. - For Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy. - Just the black Zagget Zitegeist basically of that era and then onward and then of course, as I got older looking backwards and learning your history kind of stuff. But I love like, you know, the black exploitation era and like diving back into those sounds and those words and like having fun with it. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's like, you know, playing in your dad's clothes, basically. - Yes. Did you guys watch as a family like stuff together? Were you a laughing family? Like were you a comedy family? - My dad is the Joker for sure. Like he's the joke teller and he does really well. He's like a room pleaser when he does that. Like I remember like at my grandma's house, he would have my grandma like almost like peeing her pants like literally. And this is my mom's mom, you know what I mean? So he ain't really doing a dance kind of thing. (laughing) - Is he a frustrated performer? - I don't know, he's a, he's a Gemini. So I think he does a lot of things well. - Yeah. - So, you know. - Interesting. - He's just like, he drove like NASCAR kind of cars. He's in the military, he's like mechanic, you know. - Yeah. - You know, amazing, like real estate person like it's made history in Atlanta for kind of desegregating like listings and stuff like that. - Really? - Yeah. So like he's a very cool dude. And on top of that, yeah, loves to tell a joke. And then my mom has this like secretive kind of sense of humor like a little pussy because she's like the older, she's the oldest of seven, you know. And they come from kind of, it's actually called forest of Virginia. So you can imagine there's lots of trees there. And not a whole lot of buildings. So she comes from literally the forest and like kind of had to be a little more like suited and booted. But yeah, she has this like sneaky little laugh where she's like, oh, you like to laugh at the naughty. Look at you being naughty kind of thing. So for me, I have a little bit of both, but I'm not really like a room gatherer. Unless it's like a fixed performance. - No, you're not. Like you're not looking to win the room. - Yeah, no. - No, I mean, I would say that my experience with you is that you are a little bit more of a three point shooter. Like you wait for your time and you like to observe. You like to see how people are playing. - Yeah, I like to, to Steph Curry and a little bit. And like when it's time to turn it on, just like take over the game. - And you shoot it and you shoot, you do like a no look on your way out. - Oh, yeah, like I know that's going in. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's definitely your style. - And it's rare to have like a career before you reach SNL. - Yes. - And not always helpful. - No, it hadn't gone well. I don't think for anyone at that point. I was like, I just want to do whatever because this writing thing freaks me out. So you guys tell me what you want. And it took five years before I wrote something that was like my idea. On the show. Mm-hmm, scared straight was like the first thing that actually made it on the show. Well, well, you know, we talked we brought up Eddie Murphy and I want to talk about what it was like to do that sketch at the 50th. But what's your early memories of Eddie Murphy? Because for me, uh, I'm older than you, but not by much, but enough that when I was watching SNL, when I started watching SNL, it was Eddie's year. He was 18, 19. When do you remember? That was kind of me watching from down the hall when I wasn't supposed to still be awake kind of stuff. And I remember hearing hot tub before I actually was able to watch it. Right. You know, just like trying to just be I just remember being in PJs, you know what I mean? And like watching my dad just like laugh. Yeah. I think he was still like, my mom was asleep. He was just like the only person up. How's it dark? Can you just see that? Like blue flashing to the glow and like, yeah. Is it funny? You have memories as a little kid of like when your parents would laugh really hard at something. I was like, you would look at them like, well, what happened? What happened? What's funny? And it just imprints on your brain immediately then forever what you think is funny. It was always fun getting to a place where like we could share laughter together in the same sort of sense of humor like with my dad. Yeah. Once we started like quoting coming to America to each other in like certain moments, it was just such a dynamically fun time because it was like our little thing. You know, like we play pool, we quote coming to America, you know what I mean? And it's like a dad and two brothers basically. It's really cool. It's kind of like you're when you're saying like that. It's reminding me that like for some families, comedy is sports. Like that's how you connect is you talk about what you think is funny and like, and I know that you love to Eddie and you love Richard Prior and you also love Chris Farley who you got to work with. Can you tell us about that? And Jim Carrey. Oh, and Jim Carrey. Super duper fan of Jim Carrey and I emulate him. I think more probably than anybody as far as like micro performing goes. Like I feel like he performs every possible like syllable kind of thing in his physical body. It's wild to watch. But Farley is just a full buffalo. And like he was just so dynamically funny, not just falling down funny. Like he had some quips that were incredible. Yeah. And sometimes his performances were just like he's the only one that can do that kind of thing. So he came to all that and did that. Like it was the greatest day I've ever seen because I was like, that's a true pro. That's somebody that doesn't mean because they would tell us and rehearse us a lot because we were kids kind of thing. He came in and didn't need any instruction at all. He was playing a ketchup chef that likes to put ketchup on everything. And of course, my character likes to put chocolate on everything. So it was a battle. And they had this eight layer chocolate cake because we were celebrating something or whatever. And you know, Nickelodeon likes to make a mess. But they like to shoot up until right before the mess and stop and like do that part a few times to make sure they got it. You will. And they really politely asked him like, please. And you know, take one after we got and we got to that point, destroy that cake. Like it was nothing. Like I think on purpose because they tried to tell him to do something. And he like beat the cake up to where there was like, there's no way we're doing a second take of this. Jumped in the car and jumped in a limousine and was going. Like they have showers. We like, we got showers, we like tied off a little bit, still ketchup in his hand and was out of there. And I was like, now that's a gangster. That's a professional gangster. And so damn funny and so nice. So nice. So nice. Never fronted on me for being a kid or anything. You just came in and like, you like, let's get to it kind of thing. You know, I think I'm sure every young person feels this way. They remember the people that like treated them like peers when they were feeling when they were and they remember the people that were dismissive of them when they were young because we really do act especially with young people. Like they don't know what the fuck they're talking about or like we're always doing that to them. And like I have a problem with like people's boundaries. Like I learned hard lessons with that because I'm just very like outgoing and kind of like we're fine with this, right? You're fine if I just keep tapping you on the shoulder. Like you know me kind of thing. And some people put you in your place and you're like, hey man, stop tapping me. And I was like, oh snap, like I'm sorry, I crossed that line T.C. Like Magnum P.I. T.C. I was so excited to be next to him. Like that's what Nickelodeon did to put us, you know, in proximity to a lot of very famous people kind of thing. And I was just overly excited. I'm like, didn't this great, my man? Look at this. This is an awesome piece that, hey man, stop tapping me. And I was like, oh my god, I over tapped T.C. But you're what you're talking about is just like straight up like etiquette on set that a lot of people when they arrive at SNL not only have not ever been like on TV but often have never been on any kind of set. And there is an etiquette to your point how you approach people, how you are, how like how to be a professional. And like I, Kenan, you are such a professional in the way you approach your work and the way you deal with people. You're really, really smart. And you have a lot of experience and you could feel it immediately when you arrived at SNL. But when you think back on those early like days of learning about what it was like to be on a set, what was like the things that you learned, what were some like takeaways you still think about, like what you try to bring to other sets. The first, thank you for all of that. Second, free stuff was the first thing I noticed. I was like, I'm in the right spot. I knew it. I knew if the price was right, was doing it. I knew everybody was doing some version of that, whether it was snacks or drinks or whatever. Whatever I'd like, I needed to ask for it for you. Little Wendy's, little bacon cheeseburger meal. Can I get that? I mean, you can get that. Absolutely. No problem. Don't even take your wallet out. Fantastic. I'll do whatever. We'll be here in 19 hours. You know, how many of them are there? You want to jump in the lake? Am I supposed to jump in the lake? Whatever. And that was definitely like a check, check that box, but also the size of things. Like when I got on the Mighty Ducks and saw like a movie set, all his trailers and like so many clothes for everyone. I'm like, what are all these clothes for? Like all the different scenes in the movie? I got to wear different clothes. Like different clothes. That's crazy. It's a lot of pressure. Super pressure. I didn't know how to escape. Okay. Let's talk about Mighty Ducks because you are one of my friends has escaped the best. Thank you. You're an incredible ice skater. A lot of people don't know this. Thank you. And I pride myself with that because it's not like a big known thing amongst the black community. It's just ice skate like that. You know, like there's only certain people that do it. There's only certain a couple of few people in, you know, in the NHL or whatever kind of thing. You know, New Yorkers, were people in cold climates kind of do it around Christmas time kind of thing. Just, you know, kind of like going bowling, if you will. I remember. I remember it to get good at it. It's hard and I have a very clear memory. They used to let us at Christmas shows at SNL. That's the best. They don't, do they do that anymore? I haven't done it for so long. I gotta do it. They used to let us, I mean, talk about free stuff. Talk about perks is on the Christmas show. We'd be like, good night. And then they'd cut to like maybe a bumper and we'd all get to run downstairs. What would we have to get there? There would be like a golf cart all of a sudden inside the hall and sometimes like for people to just like zip down there. Some people would be down there already. But if you're in that final thing, kind of thing, and then we would wave good nights on the ice. And then Rockefeller on the ice, underneath the Christmas tree. Yeah, Rockefeller Center. And just us and want to talk in the morning. Yeah. And I go down there and I see Kenan and Kenan is, you are skating forwards, skating backwards, skating backwards, doing a thing. Number two, what are you doing? 45 million tricks. Thank you. And I was like, because I was fresh off of learning it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how hard was it to learn for you? Very, because like I remember, like I was just talking about this the other day, like roller skating and going to like roller skating rinks is what we had in Atlanta. Yeah. Like I was busted in my ass constantly. As a kid, but you don't feel anything as a kid. You just feel the knots later, kind of thing. But I remember like both feet up falling all the time, you know, like all the time. Yeah. So sure, I put it on my resume under special skills that I could roller skate or something like roller skating, you know, but like I never in a million years considered hockey. I wanted to learn. But after that first day of hockey camp, which was on my birthday, my 15th birthday, I wanted to quit it all. Oh, I was like, I want to be an actor. This is what it's about. Like, am I, thank God, my mom didn't let me quit. She was like, no, go back tomorrow, kept going back and back in like eight weeks on both movies. Do you learn how to skate? Yeah, do you skate? Do you find ways to skate now? Yeah, it's great. Skating with the family, you know, I mean, Christmas time. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, they both are good little skaters. They are. Do you watch any ice skating during Olympics? Yeah, I mean, I watched the figure skating. Yeah, that one. I watched the girl with the three tiered, you know, kind of hairdo. Yeah, Alyssa Liu. Is that her? Yes. I know she's from Oakland area where she's from the Bay. - Yeah. - Was that unbelievable. - Unbelievable. - Just because of how casual she is. - Yes. - And like, she's just chilling. But like, the thing she can do on the ice, bro, is that I give her all the medals. Like, it was wild to watch. - Well, she-- - That in hockey, I guess, I watch it. - She reminds me of when you perform, because she was very relaxed, and you get, and like, when we're watching her, we're like, she's good, she's good. - Very young. - And like, nerves. Nerves are, like, if you can figure out how to channel your nerves. - Oh, man. - Oh, man. - So what were your nerves like when you were auditioning for S&L, you're 23, which is still real-- I mean, in the context of the show, I guess, it's not so young, which just feels so young. When I watch your audition on SNL, there's a small moment that is, Sanberg did it too when he auditioned, where you take a moment before you start, and you go, "Oh my God, S&L, you said it to yourself." And Sanberg had a similar memory, he was just like, you could tell he was like, "Well, I love it." But it was very inviting. It was not like, this person cannot handle their nerves. It felt like what you do so well, which is you like, zapped yourself to the present moment. You're like, "Here I am, I'm here." - Yeah, and it's like, I have to call it out, because if I don't, it'll be like it didn't happen kind of thing. So I have to like put it in the words that like, "I recognize that this is crazy." - It feels like also just a way to secretly kind of quiet your nerves, like just to be, say it. - Signally putting that seatbelt on. Like, and like, remember in Fight Club, when he's just like, you know what? I'm just gonna get crazy with this and let this steering wheel go. It's gonna let it go, and I just like, let my mind just start rambling. It's so, my audition is so rambly. It's crazy. - I mean, it's not, and I think I've told you the story, but I watched your audition from a, we were filming Mean Girls. Can I tell you this story? I've told you this story. And Lauren had the auditions he was watching them on the plane. Private. - Private, pizza. - You know somebody that got money? - I forgot money. - And probably the first time I had ever flown private. I don't even remember, and it was during Mean Girls, and we must have been flying back from the set because Tina was there. And Lauren was there, and Lindsay Lohan was there. - Incredible. - And we watched your audition. - That's crazy. - And we were all like, he's incredible. And Lindsay was like, I love him. And I remember. And I think at the time you probably already had the job. But it was, the one thing I remember more than the content, which you realize very fast, nobody cares about the content. Like you think the content, the jokes, everything is so important. You can have the best written material in the fucking world. You can have the best jokes in the world. If people don't feel like relaxed, happy to see you, drawn to you for whatever reason, it just, it doesn't work. It's like, it's this crazy chemistry thing. - The craziest part of casting. Like casting is such a shout out to casting people that do it well. Because it takes a whole lot of things for coming in, but we'll get back to you. And like being able to, they're like nurses, you know? - God, right, they're like, we're going to give you something. - We're going to give you a shot. It's going to hurt. - Yeah, or like, let's try that again. - And this time, do everything different. - Oh, I mean, yeah, they're like, maybe this time try to be like a normal person in the world. Like what a normal person would, yeah, oh, that's a good note. - And then you do it and you still like, didn't like, check those back. - Like, did you have fun? - Yeah. - I want to say something about what, watching you ride the wave that is SNL because it is a series of waves. - What do you think has been the way that you've surfed the last 23 years? - I think in the beginning, I became friendly to the process of it. Like, I became a friendly, useful tool, if you will. So like, all kinds of people would write for me because I was able to deliver. - Nobody gave us this rule, and I'm sure you now tell people this. But if I could go back and tell people one thing, it would be try to do as well as you can in anything you're given, that simple thing gets people to just, because everyone's nervous. - Give me one word, or half a line, I love it. - Yeah, what have you changed about how you interact with the job, and how you've made the system work for you? - Yeah, I don't let it just keep me out anymore. It used to keep us out just from being exciting. - It's one of my favorite stories ever of us doing that bit. - Please tell us. - Okay, let's tell this to our, I totally agree with you. - Let's take a drink, so I'll start it. Keenan and I, okay, this was a different time before we had children. - This was a different time before we had children. - So we would go out a lot, Keenan and I, and all of us would party a lot. - Yeah, we would hang out. - And we would hang out. - It's New York, very excited about being in New York. And so there was a night, many nights, but there was a particular night where I was out too late. - Yes, just before I understood the schedule too. I was just like hanging out because I was still out there. - And we were at a place called Bungalow 8. - Fantastic. - Shout out to you. It was kind of amazing. - Shout out to Rashida. Look, Rashida Jones turned always my beautiful wife, turned me on to so many aspects of life. - Literally the greatest. - And she'd be like, "Hey, I'm hosting this club thing." And I'd be like, "Oh my God, what time? One a.m. sounds great." I mean, what the fuck? - We're there. And like, it doesn't close like the other places. Like, it can kind of just stay open. - Yeah, it is open and then you walk in. It's like, "Oh, you know." - And Amazon rainforest. And it's time to listen to music and drinks. - Yeah, and like T.I. - Lots of people, yeah. Lots of people are building. - So we went to bungalow eight. And I was there. And all the sudden, guess who comes in? Later than me is Kenan. Kenan comes strolling. - Strolling. - And we had, we had a six a.m. call. I probably had a six a.m. You may be a little bit later. Cause ladies have a lot. - There was first thing in the morning. - We had to be up maybe two or three hours later to play. - The black eyed piece. - And I used to get in full, you know, spray tan. - I had a whole lot of wickets to be where I am. - He's heavy as dreads. - Heavy dreads. And it was, the host was John Heeter. - Okay. - Who did not say out late that night? - No. - He was ready. - Yeah, he didn't have an issue at all. But he was like Mormon, didn't he? - He's Mormon, so he just chilled. - Yeah, he chilled. - He was responsible for that. - He was responsible and he chilled. And he didn't even have caffeine. That's how he lived. And back then, those shoots used to be 10,000 miles away. - I had not slept. You had not slept. Who else was in it? Who was it? - I'm gonna say forte. - I just remember forte, like laying on a very hard floor. - We were so hungover. - Face down. - And could not move or talk. And literally, they stopped traffic in the middle of a New Jersey highway. - Yeah, for us to pretend to be the black eyed piece. - It was like, and rolling. - It was like 10, 9 a.m., like rush hour. And people were just like, what is that? Yeah, you have to be very good. - I'm going to walk with my heart. And we had to dance. And Keenan was doing a bit that I will never forget, which is he was taking phone calls from his past self, pretending to tell him to go home. - Yes, like, you are being unkind to yourself, sir. - He's a Keenan, this is Keenan. - You gotta go home. - Yeah, what are you doing, man? You know, you know you have to get it wherever. This is not good. Put it down. - When you started, you mentioned this earlier, you were, you and Joe's were, what are your memories of being if you and Joe's sharing an office? - It was the best because we were so dynamically different in my opinion. You know, like him coming from like Harvard and Staten Island and like me coming from like the south side of Atlanta kind of thing. And like I didn't finish. I went to Santa Monica City College, you know? So I didn't even really get too far down to like college, college like sharpness road, you know? So like I was still like high school educated in my opinion. I learned a lot from him. We shared an office for eight years. - Yeah. - Yeah, because other offices would open up, but like we enjoyed that office so much. And like I think being together so much and then scared straight was born from that kind of stuff. - Yeah, right. Talk about full circle Keenan. Like you see your fan of Eddie, you write scared straight. - Forget about Colin and then you do it with him at the 15th. What did I see like? - Shout out to those guys. Like shout out to people that are like like Colin and Chey are both like that. And I shout out Cheyout so much because a lot of my favorite stuff that is like very silly and black and really, really smart, you know, is coming from him sharply like black jeopardy and stuff like that. - And when you and Eddie did it for the 50th, what do you remember? But what was the little special twinkly magic moment? And when you did that, what did it feel like? - So at the 40th was the night before was the first time I met Eddie, you know what I mean? And he just came to that like toast to Lauren in the rainbow room. So everything was like very New York magical 'cause he was like in the sky and he emerged from a separate elevator from everybody else. And I'm like, of course, he has his, you know, specific way. And like I was like, that's really cool. I couldn't contain myself. And he recognized, you know what I mean? He was like, "Hey man." Like, I was like, "Oh my God, this is amazing." - Hmm. - So fast forward to the 50th. Collins suggests we do a scare straight and put him in it. You know, he had hosted which was the greatest show ever. When, you know, he hosted for Christmas time and then back to Che, put me in that monologue with him Chris Rock Tracey and Dave Chappelle. Like, what an epic picture. I'll keep it for forever. So at the 50th, they were talking about doing a scare. So I'm like, I wasn't even planning on, I didn't know what to do because everything was so last minute, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - I just heard that they wanted to do this and I'm like, they're down to do this. I couldn't believe it. Like Eddie and the goat Will Ferrell, like bro, like Will Ferrell is the greatest cast member we've had ever. I think in many people's opinion. - Yeah. - So for them to be in my little baby sketch was unreal. - That's so cool. - Unreal. - Yeah. - I felt that. I felt like you were a peer and a fan at the same time with them because you are a peer to them. - Thank you. - You realizing that moment was special is kind of like what going back to our theme, which is you were really present in the moment. And the other thing I'm just gonna say about you, Keenan. - I just eat too much humble pie to like not feel like a little kid looking at his hero kind of thing. - Well, that's what I mean is, you know, okay, do you ever watch a show alone? I talk about it all the time over here, but it's a, okay. Alone is a, it's kind of like an adventure reality shown. It's about people who are dropped off in the wilderness and have to survive by themselves and whoever stays the longest alone and they all have to hunt and fish and gather and all the stuff, but what you realize is, the people that last the longest are not the ones that celebrate the hardest and they're not the ones that take the losses so personally. They stay with somewhat relatively even. You bag a moose week one. You're not gonna bag it every week. Your shelter falls down. It doesn't mean because you're a jerk and bad things happen to you. You don't internalize and I get that from you. You ride those highs and lows. Do you think that that's true by yourself? And it's always been that way. - Yeah, and I think I kind of focus on that a little bit, you know what I mean? Just to make sure that I don't allow things to just carry me away. Like there's so much to be emotional about. Outside of the business, like the world is in like full chaos and has been my whole life, I feel like. There's always been some sort of representation of a bad guy, if you will, or a bad situation kind of stuff. And then the more you learn about the world is like, how dare I even be bothered or upset about, you know, such minuscule things as a miss accomplishment in my career kind of thing, you know? So I've always kind of just been like, cool. Like if something great happens great, something bad happens, just like all right, pick up the pieces and like let's keep pushing kind of thing because you can dwell on it if you want and let it like suck you down a little whirlpool and stuff like that. But then where would we be? And where would all the people that depend on me be kind of thing if I allow the darkness to creep in? - It's true, but it's like a life lesson of like, can you be satisfied? Like the life lesson of can you be satisfied? - Yeah. - Is it really, you know, that yearning? - I can easily be satisfied, yeah. I know the things I like and I'm happy when they're around. - When you speak about, you know what you like. I feel like you love working with Maya. - Oh, she's the greatest. - And she loves working with you. - Maya is such, I never met such a dynamic force of nature. Just in pedigree and talent and, you know, the kind of person she is, the kindness she is. Like she's very maternal, you are as well. Like all four of my like original drench and Tina, like my four horsemen, horse lady sisters are giant forces of nature, you know? And it started with Maya and like I'm deeply indebted to her for kind of pulling me out of the fog of Tuesday night and getting something done in my first week and constantly kind of being that source of just funny combo or wonderful performer to perform things with. - I mean, you guys are like instant family. Like you were a family in another life. You immediately met each other and you were like, oh, you play the same way I play. - Yeah, and also just I'm obsessed with songbirds. It's an amazing talent to sit next to and just listen to her, just take off on some sort of like musical number or something like while she's just sitting there and it's like, do y'all hear this? Like, she's amazing. - I mean, I always say that she would be better than most of the professional singers that came out of her. - Oh, 100%. - And you're too keen in. - I try, but like, man, what a cool thing to kind of like being close to kind of thing. And like I just, I love it. So the same with like, you know, even, you know, up to the current cast and like everyone in between and I just love our family so much that I like being close to it and like it's just, I'm not afraid of how it would be when I leave. It's just, I would much rather just stay, you know? - Just, right, why not? Who's writing this brew book? - Yeah, exactly right. Like, I'm up to 23 years. - I know. - Possibly starting 24 or whatever. - Possibly. - You know, like it's happening. I mean, yeah, I know you're exactly right. What are the rules and so we do this thing in the show where we talk to somebody, we get a question. So we talk to Maya. - Oh my God. How wonderful. What does she say? - She loves you so much. - God bless her, man. I love her too. - And we laugh so hard at how dumb and how fun the stupid shit you guys have done. - Yes, the best. - It's the best. And we talked about TT and Mario, which, you know, is my favorite, which is the couple that is- - Put your hands in roller skates. - And- - Flip you upside down. And then will you into the kitchen? Put whipped cream on your business. (laughing) - I want you to know I was singing that on the way here. What a gorgeous lyric. - God bless censorship. If it wasn't for censorship- - You're so right, we could- - The word play would be so less fun. - You're right, sometimes the guardrails make it way funnier and you can't say anything dirty so you have to say put whipped cream on your business. (laughing) But Maya was talking, like, and also I just want to, like, say thank you again. I know I've thanked you many times in my life, but you and Maya did one of the most tender, wonderful, like, funny and beautiful things for me in my life that when I rushed from set to have my kid- - Yeah. - And my first son, Archie and he was in my arms and I was watching the show that the day before I was rehearsing, which talk about, like, feeling like you're in a crazy, alternate reality. You guys sang to me from update you and Maya, and with the TT and Mario Flair, but not as filthy as the word children present. - Of course. - Yeah. - And I couldn't have chosen two better people to have that feeling from, and it was so. It was such a wonderful, beautiful, my really treasure at Keenan. - I'm so glad because it felt that way in the moment and I was still so young, you know? I was just honored to be asked to be a part of a, like, this is such a moment for you. Like a brand new mom, and we watched you be pregnant the whole time. And we thought you were gonna troupe out the show, like, it was a super surprise. - That was the plan. - You know what I mean? - That was the plan. - So it was like showing up on Saturday and it was just like hearing the news, like, Amy won't be with us. There was like all hands on deck kind of energy because you're such a pivotal part of the show. So you not being there was just like, there's such a gap we have to acknowledge this in some sort of way. And yet to be asked to do it was like, this is cool. Like this is what makes this place, you know, an epic kind of place. And I felt very grateful to be involved in any sort of, like, moment like that, you know? It was very special, man. - My question to you was, it was basically more of like a statement, which is you're fully formed, little Keenan felt like he kind of came out fully formed. And I think the little Maya too, the same thing. I think you guys saw that in each other. And I think her question was really like, do you think that's true? And I do think we kind of talked about like, do you think you knew from the very earliest age what you wanted to do? - And some sort of, some sort of way. And definitely in that direction, you know, the mean of like, I don't know if sports is gonna be it. Like I enjoy playing sports, but I didn't think I was gonna be Bo Jackson, you know? - Yeah. - Bo Jackson. - Yeah. So like, yeah, I think I had an affinity towards my path kind of, and I always felt like it had already been carved in some sort of way. Like it was just, you know, big destiny believer, that could have something to do with like faith and growing up in church and stuff like that. - Yeah. - But it just felt that way. And I kept getting reminded of those things when those kids and midi kind of things would happen along the way. - Yeah. - Just like, I think I should just give over to the universe and just stay positive and stay ready. - Yeah. - Yeah. Um, what's, where are you going? I'm just going to my daughter's little like summer play. Oh, God, you're going, oh, you're just going to your daughter. Literally across the street. Okay. But what time is the play? Where they are allowing the parents in at 135. Oh, my God. We have to get you out of here. Okay. So we cannot, it's 130. Yeah. That's the time. I got to ask you one question. I'm going to put your glasses on. Yeah. Please. What are you listening to right now? Yeah. What are you, what's making you laugh? Yeah. What is making you laugh? What is she doing? What is she doing? I want to say, it's just, they're like six grade at the end of school. Did she want to be a birthday party or anything? Is that any of them? Yeah, she's better at sports kind of thing. She a little introverted. But I see it in her, you know, and she has her moments where she just hands it up, you know, kind of thing. All right. We have a lot of energy to play. Yeah. But what are you laughing at right now? What's making you laugh? I'm laughing at a lot of the park. I'm watching my friends work, you know, like whoever's putting out like new work kind of thing. You know, I just, like, I wasn't really aware of Sarah's like stand up presence and I watched that special. That's special. So we, she's a force. We had her on. Yeah. That special is the craziest shit I've ever seen. It's the craziest. And I thank God because who else can do it, you know, kind of so I'm like, well, she's here for a reason. Yeah. And like buckle up everybody because when she decides to like let the train lose, it's gone. Like it was great. Yeah. Fantastic. And like that's one of the newer things that I caught on to recently. But like, you know, any and all of our friends that are doing stuff, you know, like Leslie Jones is special. It was fantastic. Yes. Like Vanessa's still out there killing. Yeah. Vanessa's out there with Tisha Campbell, which is why he got Tisha Campbell doing stand-up. And it's really funny. Yes. So like, yeah, I'm just, you know, celebrating all of our friends. Keenan, you always do. You've always been like laughing with us along the right way and always like reminding us that like we won the lottery for getting to do what we get to do. A lot of the time it is really a nice reminder and a pleasure to like take a look around, you know, and be reminded of the reach when we're like flicking through the channels or like something pops up in the zeitgeist. Like, thank you for broad city, you know, and like for Paige and Hannah, you know, I mean, like just supporting like new people along the way and like constantly just keeping the Bible alive, you know, I mean, a fishing for fun times. Thank you for always shouting out all us women too. You always do that. We love you for it. It's unbelievable. And it's undeniable. You can put your glasses back up for this last thing and we'll get worried. I mean, I love that you're going to your daughter's play. Yeah. My sweet heart. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so excited. And my other one had a few days and her country to represent was Austria, so she had to learn about Austria and listening to a seven year old talk about Austria is adorable. And I've seen the faces of these children and they are insanely sweet and cute. God bless them. And they're so lucky to have you as their dad. And now that you're a grandpa, we're so lucky to have you as a grandpa. Yeah. And hopefully I'll be a great, great before I'm out here like Morgan Freeman, you know, you know. Yeah. And I'm going to meet you on the red carpet and have also have sunglasses on and weirdly a seat at like a dog. I'm going to start bringing it back up there for people that I like and it was like, all right. This is make sure. Thank you. We'll get you some. We're so lucky to have. I'm so lucky to know you. And it's so good to see you. Same. Love you. Thank you for doing this. So much. My pleasure. My pleasure. My pleasure. And I'm so happy to see you today. Yeah. Same. Thank you so much, Kenan Thompson. You are the best. You're the best. Most wonderful person and so hilarious. And I'm so lucky to know you. And thank you for doing this. And, you know, in these polar plunges, we usually kind of dig deeper into something that we talked about, but I just want to take a minute to just dig a little bit deeper into the fact that Kenan's characters on SNL, 23 years in still kind of remain the characters that I quote on a weekly basis, whether it is TT and Mario saying, I'm going to put whipped cream on your business, or it's Jean-Kéjon, the French stand up comedian who says, Zutelors, when he does update, or DJ Dynasty Handbag, a character that he did on a sketch called Deep House Dish, which was kind of like a Euro MTV show and rid by the great James Anderson. And Kenan's character used to say, OK, instead of OK, and I say OK. Or bouquet, or bouquet, or whatever, however you said, I always say it all the time. I guess my point is, Kenan is like woven into the fabric of that show and my experience in that show in a way that's like very, very, very special to me and is kind of stuck in my brain. So, my plunge today is to encourage you to keep watching his stuff, past, present, and future, and to stay in the present like Kenan does, too. So, thank you for listening to this podcast called Good Hang with Amy Poler. OK, bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weissberman, and me Amy Poler. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paperkite. For the Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spalane, Kaya McMullen, Alayez and Eris, Bridget Curling's, Paige Garberini, Bell Roman and Drew Van Steenbergen. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weissberman, Original Music by Amy Miles.