Ken Paxton CAUGHT on HOT MIC Trash-Talking Trump

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No Senate seat for you. Anyway, so New York Times got their hands on a recording from a fundraiser, where Paxton talks about his numbers and says everyone's dropped after Trump's recent convention in Dallas, there was a bump. It was a 2.5 point bump for Democrats coming out of their midterms convention. Let's listen to Ken Paxton. You feel like, man, all the exact same numbers. These probably are the same. But you feel like you need a little bit of a job. So, to be honest with you, the numbers, and actually we did that in convention. Trump's our numbers, everybody's having a job. Right now, yeah, no, not good. And we're just doing something to turn that guy with obviously that's what we should not have done. - Bad. - Well, with a caveat. - Like good for Tallariko, so. - Good boy. - I actually look at this from like multiple point of views. I don't know, this won't hurt. In my opinion, this won't hurt Ken Paxton, unless Trump sees it. And it's like a part of that. - He's gonna see it. - So yeah, once Trump sees it. - He's not doing anything else. - Once Trump sees it, puts out a true sociopost or just starts cutting funding, then I think it's gonna start hurting Ken Paxton on its own. And I'm like, okay, it's just like, it's Ken Paxton saying what everyone else is saying, just like we hear it for the first time. But it is still pretty, I wanna know who recorded it. Like, this was like a private donor meeting. I'm just, I'm fascinated, who's the leak? - I mean, there are leaks in the situation room for God's sake. Like it's Suzy Wiles, Steven Chung, JD Vance. Like you don't think there's someone sitting in a Ken Paxton donor meeting. That's like, I'm just gonna record this. It always gets out. And he actually sounded the most normal that Ken Paxton has ever sounded to me, which was a bit of a let down where I was like, oh, maybe there is a human being in there that is somewhat connected to reality. But I think there is a zero percent chance that Trump isn't made aware of this. I think there will be bluster about it. It's really the funding issue because Ken Paxton has not been able to fundraise well on his own, John Kornin historically and enormously productive fundraiser for himself and for the party. You know, big shot across Ken Paxton's bow that last week or the week before, Kornin did a fundraiser with George W. Bush and they fundraised for every other Republican candidate in the country, except Ken Paxton and they did it in Dallas. I'm wondering and I don't think it's going to happen. But we have seen some pretty high level defections to supporting Democrats in Texas. You have Karl Rove out there saying, I mean, this bow French is completely despicable, but he's the one who posted that the shot of the arena was had too many people of color in it for his taste and Ken Paxton could only, you know, muster a mile. Like, that's not okay with me, bro. Versus Karl Rove's like, I'm voting for the Democrat and then he was talking a trip fest and basically said the Republicans are a bunch of Nazis. And the fact that Nick Fuentes even has any access means like, you can't really support these guys. I don't think he's going to be putting on a blue t-shirt and going door to door, but do you think there is any shot that John Kornin says that he's going to vote for Tallerigo? No, but I do think he's going to vote for Tallerigo. Yeah, I think Kornin will vote. I just cannot imagine that Kornin would come out and say, mm-hmm, vote for James. If he did that to me, that would solidify a James victory. I mean, yeah, but I think if we haven't heard it yet, maybe that's the October surprise that the Tallerigo team is holding on to, but no, I can't imagine. Kornin, so Kornin's done a good job if you've seen what he's been doing over the past since losing the primary. He's still a Republican through and through and he's still very much like on the party line, but he's like towing that line so carefully while also attacking Paxton subtly and going after some of these Republicans in Texas that I don't think he, I think he wants some position in the party, some respect in the party. Well, I'm not very remembered as a trader, right? You know, after you have like decades-long career, I could understand that that might not be appealing, but if you just look at the ads that his team was running during the primary, you can feel 99.9% confident that John Kornin is not going to be voting for this guy. And I'm always curious like what the life is like for the John Kornin staffer that's now part of the Tallerigo campaign. And if he would, I don't know if he wants to come on the pod, tell us that there are a lot more like him. - Yeah, if you're listening, I guess we could just like reach out to the Tallerigo campaign and ask, I'm sure that would not happen. But if there are more like him, and I would guess that there are, what do you make of before we move? I don't want to do like a little more like election, that signal stuff. I saw Jim Justice, the West Virginia Senator posting about how out of control I says this follows Roger Marshall in Kansas doing the same thing. And this probably just appealed to my data nerd heart, but in the new Wall Street Journal poll, which has Democrats up eight on the generic ballot. I saw that they did a survey within the survey of the top 10 policies with the highest support amongst Democrats and Republicans, which is totally speaking my love language as a raging moderate. And number one, pass laws to ban surprise medical bills, require health insurance companies to cover services and medicines, cap the maximum price of prescription drugs, cap credit card interest, stop legal immigration at the border, restrict large institutional investors from buying large family, large numbers of single family homes, pathway to citizenship, capping childcare costs. Like you can see how Democrats are racking up in that survey and eight point advantage. The only one that sticks out is closing the border, which Democrats obviously failed to do. We're not even trying to do, frankly, during the Biden administration. But what do you think about that? Yeah, I mean, well, I don't know if you saw, but the YuGov poll came out today, showing Dams up 15 in the generic ballot. I know, that's crazy, though. Which I don't believe their Democrats are 50. I mean, did you only poll my house? Because I, yeah, I think it'll ultimately be. That's not how polls are done. I don't want to be that person. That's like, oh, they didn't call me. I know how it's done, but 15 is like a tsunami. Yeah, I think it'll end up being six to eight after-- Which is so great. Which is a blue wave, for sure. I don't think it'll be 15. But I'm not-- surprise by any of that. And 90% of the policies you outlined, by the way, if Democrats actually just ran on it, they'd win. That's the most frustrating thing is like, if you want to look to why Mamdani is so popular, he checks off almost all of those boxes, right? He saw the poll and was like, oh, the people, all the people. Like how do you get a Trump Mamdani voter? Check, check, check, like going after big corporations, check capping the cost of living and childcare prices check, medical bills, all of there. Democrats are going to have a lot of these like convenings that they like to do after this November election. And I think after in all of these meetings, I'm so excited to go to them when you just sit there and you're like, what did we learn? Yeah, they should look to that poll that you just cited because that is the roadmap for 2020. If a presidential candidate can run on that and, and just that, Democrats will win. Like say nothing else. Yeah. And have a good glow up. I'm being John Hoss off now, but like say nothing else. No, I mean, you literally just focus on that. That's it. And it's so popular. It's so good, but. And it's so common sense. Yeah. Like everyone has been bemoaning for years that is it a majority? I feel like it is a majority of Americans couldn't make it through like a bad medical emergency and, you know, fear going to the doctor and the Kaiser family and foundation. Always does amazing polling about this. And I'm like, why are we complicating things with talking about all of this other stuff? Like answer people's questions. Of course, if they're out of town hall and they bring something up, but like, I don't have hot cane Jeffries' phone number. But if I did, I would text from that. I assume his team has already showed him. Okay. I want to talk about another amazing moment. Eric Schmidt, you tell me. Okay. So former special counsel Jack Smith testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday, defending his two Trump prosecutions and saying he won't be silenced by threats. The Justice Department is investigating accusations that Smith lied to the House about obtaining lawmakers' phone records. There was a moment that went viral, mega viral. Between Smith and Senator Eric Schmidt, let's watch. Did you go to an NBA game between the Golden State Warriors and the Atlanta Hawks on February 3rd, 2024? What city would that be in? Atlanta. No. Let me just give you a little context. The day before Fannie Willis came clean with her affair with the prosecutor. You know the Atlanta prosecutor that was also trying to get Trump. The next day were you and Atlanta. I do not believe so. What would you say if I had a series of text messages from your team that said you were in Atlanta at a Warrior Hawks game on February 3rd, 2024, the day after Willis and Wade announced their affair? I don't think you know that we have this stuff. So I think you've already perjured yourself, but I recall going to a university of Maryland basketball game where Caitlin Clark was playing. It was Maryland playing Iowa. I think February of 2024, but again, you can check that out. Could it then be that university of I was the Hawks? Could that be it? Who's questioning is this? Are you using your time, Senator? Is this what this is? Are we just having like an open session here? I think that people should have their facts straight before they accuse someone of being a dirt bag and not get the team strong. I see him by that statement. Oh boy. Amy, it's like it's so perfect and that she gets like this Midwest moment where she's like, could it be the Iowa Hawkeyes? How did this happen? Does that staffer have a job? I don't know if we can show Katie Brett's face. Right around that time and the Marshall Service was there with me. You could check if that was the exact date. Listen, I watched that moment live and I was like, this is amazing. I mean, it's like peak United States Senate incompetence because that hearing was supposed to be the big gotcha before the election. Republicans bring in Jack Smith. They're like, we're going to go after weaponization. We're going to go after Jack Smith. And then it just failed. But the best part about this all wasn't the moment. But the fact that that morning, Eric Schmidt yesterday morning, Eric Schmidt had an axioms article leaked an axioms article leaked that said, Eric Schmidt consider top contender to be vice president. JD Vance is vice president when JD Vance runs for president. And then they and then and then after that, every MAGA influencer from Matt Gates to Benny Johnson were like tweeting out, oh, you're you should watch Eric Schmidt today. You're not going to want to miss the moment he has coming. It was like this planned thing that Eric Schmidt seemed had. I feel like for they've been like workshopping this for days. They're like, we're going to get Jack Smith. We're going to get him in a perjury trap. And then it all failed. And they like go to staples and they're like printing this thing out. And John Kennedy gets up and he's like, you see this? And John Kennedy has had some good moments recently, actually, where he's like, John Jr. Shouldn't get cake from the billionaires or the Russian billionaires. And then this happens. Katie Brett, former staffer, Scarlett Johansson. I hope you're available on Saturday. Hot off the presses. Donald Trump hates me. Why does Fox News always put Chuck Schumer, Huck him Jeffries, Jessica Tarlov, and every Democrat on saying bad things about the Republican party. And of course, me. I actually think they get more airtime than pro Republicans. This is why MAGA and real patriots will never like Fox. Is that true? I mean, I don't like Trump. And that patriots hate Fox. No, I don't think that they hate Fox. Why isn't he busier? I ask you again. That's a good question. I mean, he should be doing more. No, I mean, I feel like, yeah, I mean, the president of the United States should be really focused on fixing his AI chat bot. That's what I think he needs to fix because because that to me is like, I mean, it just gets better. Like peak peak. America.gov is out. And I was like, you know what? Let me go play around with it. Was there voter fraud that changed the 2020 election? No. Who won the 2020 election? Joe Biden. Did Donald Trump inherit the worst inflation crisis in history? 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So what is going on with the kids? I think the biggest misconception about Gen Z's politics right now is that all of a sudden they're all socialists. That is just not the case. Yeah. Yeah. They are embracing candidates who are offering new bold ideas in the absence of those ideas from establishment Democrats. This week on America actually, Gen Z researcher Rachel Jamfaza joins us. to separate Gen Z fact versus fiction. - It's not rocket science. And this is, you know, I keep saying, like, young voters aren't that complicated after all. It's pretty simple. - Catch us every Saturday on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. - But this links to what we are texting about yesterday when it came out because I said, first of all, it says that your privacy will be respected. And there is no f in way that your privacy is going to be respected. This is like, you know, TikTok on steroids. And second of all, there was no way that they could have built something that would have been able to do the things that they said it could do this quickly and silently. Like we didn't hear anything about this or there were, I mean, I guess if you were like, in the know for this, you might have heard rumblings about it. But didn't this feel like it appeared out of nowhere and that there was this big meeting which good on the heads of the AI companies for finding a way to wrangle him. It seems into some semblance of a regulatory framework or at least being open to it because just a few days ago he's at the UN saying, absolutely not, I will not participate in this. So I don't know if Dario romance him or what happened at that dinner, but they got him to where they needed him to go and the rank and file Republicans need it because Mike Rogers can't win in Michigan with Trump saying you're gonna be backwards and poor unless you let me have all these data centers. But the fact that we have within hours that they're tampering with something that's supposed to be the ultimate truth bot, like people are aware of these things. - Yeah, yeah, they are. And honestly, it's like one of those things where it's like, I just don't get how they release that, knowing that that's what, like how do you not test it? Like, to me, it's mind boggling that the administration is like rolls out some of this stuff. Like this AI, like even America.gov, when you went on it yesterday, it said it's funded or like powered by AI, not SI, which is what the Trump administration's been pushing. Like if you want to lean into all of the changes you're making and the fact that Donald Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread and he could do no wrong and there was fraud and all this stuff, how come you don't at least be competent enough to make a thing that says that, right? Like what I went to me, what it was was, they just took Chad GPT, slapped America.gov on top. - Grok. - Or grok, slapped America.gov, and that was kind of it. I mean, that's what it was. And I just, they're not even good at being bad. - Bad. You're so bad, you can't even fake good. Do you think this switch or movement in his position is gonna help them electorally? Or that's kind of baked into the cake that voters don't think that Republicans care about their concerns when it comes to AI? - I don't know that this will really impact the election much. I think this is just like another embarrassment. I think the AI conversation is much bigger than America.gov. I think the data center issue is the core of this. And I think that will impact elections, especially in places like South Texas where they're trying to build data centers in communities and Republicans are coming out and saying, "I won't vote for a Republican because of data center." So I do think it'll have a big impact on the election. How big will find out in November? - Yes, Aaron. We will find out in November. - We will. - That's exactly what people want to hear. When they're like, "Oh, let's tune in and listen to the experts," and then we're like, "It all comes down to turnout and we will find out in November." - I mean, like, I mean-- - No, I totally, I mean, I don't want to be on the hook for it. I think it's going to be a big deal. You know, it's basically the economy and inflation. And then data centers is creeping up there for people. They're clearly though trying to make immigration happen as a campaign issue. - There's another caravan coming up right now. - The electoral caravan, Marjorie Taylor Green is the clock, right? She's, right, a couple times a day. ICE is reportedly preparing for a hiring surge to support Trump's deportation campaign, aiming to bring 5,000 new employees by the end of the year. The hires would grow the workforce by about 17% and use substantial new congressional funding, which, in Susan Collins, allow that to go through. - They just as a reminder. - They just fired a bunch of ICE agents. This is so stupid. I saw this headline and I was like, "Y'all, they literally, two months ago, fired like 5,000 ICE agents." You didn't, because they were invented properly, because they could-- - Well, we know that. They're like 26 day ones that are out of the streets. - And there was even reports that they were being forced to pay back their bonuses and they couldn't, it was a whole mess. But anyways, they just fired a bunch of people. And now they wanna rehire a bunch of people. We're gonna offer another 50,000 ICE bonus. That's really what we're gonna do right now. - I mean, yeah. I think that is what we're gonna do now. - I guess so. - But it makes me think, putting aside, I guess it maybe it'll just be like, the people who are out coming back in and share numbers, but it does feel like we have 33 days or whatever it is until the midterms. And we need to make immigration and fear. Migrant populations stick as an election issue because on all the other ones, it's not happening or it's not looking good for them. - True that. That's what they're doing here. I mean, that's all it is. - Okay. Do you wanna, before we go to questions? I would like your opinion. 'Cause Scott and I went back and forth on this a lot yesterday about what's going on with Iran and the fact that now we're almost back to pre-war levels of crude oil getting out. Do you think that now Iran is on the back foot because Scott did not think so. He still thought that Iran was in a much better position and I feel like this is a big deal for the US side. - I agree with Scott here. And the reason why is because to me, who's winning this war is not necessarily who's winning it on the ground, but rather who's winning it in the court of public opinion. And Iran today isn't a much more powerful in the negotiating position in the court of public opinion than they were at the start of the war. No one's disputing the fact that Iran has been severely damaged and tons of Iranian military capabilities have been destroyed. And yes, you're right, there is crude oil coming out, but that's not the conversation because even with crude oil coming out, diesel prices are still rising, right? Even with crude oil coming out, Americans are still upset with the precedent over the war in Iran. And because none of that's changing, Iran is still in a far better position today than it was yesterday and then it was on February 27th. - Okay, I mean, I think that you're right in terms of like they want this to continue on through the election if they can make it so and they clearly want to hurt Donald Trump by their strategy of being able to control the straight is obviously not in full force anymore at all. And I don't know. I mean, it's been an interesting reading like a lot of analysts, oil analysts who were really disturbed by the approach that the US was taking, having a different approach now that they're looking at this. But what they are thinking is most likely to happen on what the markets are pricing in, which is even scarier as that Iran will respond militarily. - Well, see what happens. I don't know. I mean, it's an interesting conversation to have. By the way, I didn't realize, but Trump just put that true social out attacking me. - That's why I said hot off the press. I'm like-- - Oh. Like literally 10 minutes ago. I thought this was like-- - I know. I was like the light show and I thought it, what you thought I just randomly was like, hey. - I was sitting there and I was thinking like, where the hell is this coming from? Like I've never seen those before. It literally just happened. - Yeah. Maybe he was watching for a few minutes ago. - 1340 minutes ago. - Maybe he was watching for a few minutes ago. - Hi. If you're watching this. - If you're watching this. - Well, he was definitely watching the five yesterday. I'll ask again, why is this man not busier? - I don't know. You tell me. - I would, I know. I would, okay. - How about this? Next time you're on the five, ask him. Say, Mr. President, I see you watch us. Why aren't you busier? - Yeah, but it is crazy. Like how myopic he is about Fox that he puts me in the same echelon as the head of the Derrata party in the Senate and the House. You're just like, I'm just a girl. - I'm just a woman. - You're like sitting in heavy HD hair and makeup, talking about how you're shitty at your job, admittedly. But like Hakeem Jeffery's Chuck Schumer and Jessica Tarla is like the man's out of his mind. - I mean, here we are. You should go visit him in the White House. - I'm good. - My side hats, I'm out. Okay, questions from the audience. Question for Aaron's attorney brain. Can you put that brain on? How can they deal with the immigrant children without representation and what will happen to them? - That's a loaded question. How can they do it? Well, they can do it. The way they do it is, so it's so much longer story than just, I guess, a 60 seconds out bite. But at the beginning of the front administration, they cut a $200 million contract to an organization that provides legal services to undocumented children at the border and unaccompanied minors. They then took part of that money, not all of it, part of it and redirected it to a different organization that they said would do a better job at providing legal representation. This organization provides the lawyers. The lawyers sit in the courtroom, oftentimes they don't show up in the court. room and they don't really do much for the kids. The kids also don't necessarily have a right to counsel in all of these asylum proceedings. You're not entitled to counsel always. It's a very difficult situation given the fact that these aren't criminal proceedings. If they were charged with the crime, they'd be entitled to counsel, but because it's an asylum hearing, it's a little different. What happens to the kids? They are sent back to the detention centers and then are oftentimes deported back to wherever the judge signed in order to. That's what happens. We're seeing a cruelty now and being brought up now, but this has been something that's been going on for a long time. It's not just over the past 18 months. I mean, thank you for your answer. This is really disturbing. It is. Jessica and Erin, both of us are on this one. I'm from Texas, and the vibe so far is amazing for Dems. Do you think there's a scenario where both Gina and James win? I'm so nervous. FYI, we all hate Abbott. I think there's a scenario. If I were predicting today. We know in November. We know November. If I was a betting man, I would bet that James will win and Gina won't, but anything's possible. Yeah. I mean, I do think for all the criticisms of Abbott, he still fits into a traditional Republican mold, which is more comfortable to people than what's going on with Ken Paxton. And I still think, I mean, that's a very tight race. And the Tallariko team is running, you know, understanding that that's the case. So if I took off my rose colored glasses, I would probably agree with that analysis, but I think that she is running the most incredible campaign and we're putting together conversations with a lot of these candidates who you're surprised by are doing so well. And Gina is one of them. And her ad talking about her decision to carry her baby, who she knew would not live, is one of the more powerful political ads I've ever seen in my entire life. And yeah. And she just has all of the right messaging. And what's great is that this isn't a reversal for her. She didn't like wake up and start campaigning and then have these ideas about where the Democratic Party goes wrong and how we have to treat the immigration system and what what you do when you are running a border state. I think it's a truly magical campaign. And I'm glad that she's getting more national attention. And it's a good thing also that Democrats, like the infrastructure is spending more in Texas now. So obviously they're they're seeing the possibility. Any comment on Christie Nome's divorce, Tom is asking. No, I personally try to say out of people's personal lives. That's very big of you. I don't. I love to dive into people's personal lives. I will just say, well, like no one's surprised. And she's still out with Corey Lewandowski. So I imagine that had something to do with it. But you have to watch Tim Dylan impersonating Christie Nome's husband was on his pod like when all of this broke about the the breasts. Anyway, Christie Nome seems like not a particularly good person, a terrible public servant who obviously use the office to enrich herself and people close to her. But just also someone who treated her husband terribly and humiliating someone like that is unacceptable. Best Burgess comments. 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