Kelly Rohrbach's Instagram + Dante's Inferno

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. I'm Benito Skinner. I'm Mary Beth Brown. And this is Ride. Ready, Jackson? Are you going to read it? Yeah, I have to read an excerpt from Dante's Inferno. I just know with certainty that the new show isn't going to be funny. Your style of humor won't translate to long form. Enjoy these press opportunities while they last and make the most of them. If anything, they'll make the podcast audience bigger. Dot, dot, dot, question mark. Is there still a podcast? Terry, stop making fake accounts. Terry, we know this is your burner. Hey, there are easier ways to say you're Terry. I just can't believe people talk to me like that. That's so Dante's Inferno coded. We'll talk about it later. But I like and what I said offline was that I like that they commented and they didn't DM it because I think it's important for people to see the type of like stuff that people say to us. I'm just like, also, we're talking about like how you think my comedy will like. Translate to long form? What? Okay, someone is obsessed. I'm like, it's 11 a.m. I really sometimes when I read comments like that, I'm like, I don't think I've ever cared about anything like this. No, not enough to create a new account with zero followers and then comment that on someone's post. I'm just like, what? And like, well, of course, there's a podcast. I'm doing it. Literally. I'm not giving voice to them. Like, I'm not saying the handle, but because it's. No, I'm just like, what? I'm responding to my ops this year. I am. Because the whole like. Like, thought of like, don't give them more airtime or don't give them the time of day. I'm like, no, no, no. I'm going to put you at the forefront if you want to come for me like that. Oh, fuck. It's kind of making me want to cry. Babe, that comment? Yeah. Why? Oh, my God. I don't know why. Sorry, give me one second. But you know that that's not. It's just like, God, it's like people are so mean. Okay. Okay, no, we're okay. I'm just like, God, I can't believe you say that to me. Like, if you knew me, I don't think you'd say that. And also, like, you're wrong. It's fabulous. And it translates to long form, actually, like more beautifully than you can even imagine. And I love my podcast. And you know what? I have a really nice time at these press opportunities because press is press. Press is press. And you have a good heart. And people have so much hate in their hearts. I know. And I'm just like, my God, I can't believe you say things like that. And then I get, oh, my God. No, I don't want to. I don't want to. I just start to think like, oh, my God, if anyone says stuff like that to my nieces or nephews, I'm going to have to. I can't even think about that. I can't think about that. It makes me sick to my stomach. I know. Please don't be. Don't be public figures. Me to my nieces and nephews. Promise me one thing. Heed our warning. I'll buy you a Chanel bag if you promise me not to be a public figure. To not be a public figure. I know. Me to your kids. Anything you want. Just not that. Choose any bag. You can get a coat even. A leather coat. Leather. Authentic. Vintage. Whatever you want. You pick it. Just don't. Okay. Yeah. No, it's fine. We're lucky. And if that's the worst I get. I always said, like, I thought that our jobs are the only jobs that have that. But someone did write, Mrs. Skinner is a bitch. On a hall in my mom's school she was PE teaching in. So that was the first hate tweet. That's hate. It's hate. It's hate. Okay, I'm fine. Sorry. People have so much access to us, like, to reach us online. And I didn't mean to. And so you just opened your post and you just saw that. I was literally just, like, going to respond to someone who had said something very sweet. And I was, like, in that. And then that alert came up. And I'm like, oh, I wish that there was some. AI should kind of figure that out. Well, there's no justice. There's no justice. No, there's no justice. Did you see Sydney Sweeney's video after some, like, bikini paparazzi pics went viral of her? Because she's, like, she's in a movie where she's playing a bodybuilder or something. So, like, her body type sort of changed. Yeah. And people wrote the most hateful things about her when these photos came out. She literally made a reel that was all the comments and then her training for this movie. And it was, like, so fita and so taika. And I just think, like, no, we shouldn't be just, like, letting these people say this shit to us with no, like, recourse. A TERF made a video because I have that joke about how there's all TERFs are just hideously ugly. And they don't get to comment on, like, femininity or womanhood because they're all so fucking disgusting. And this TERF was a man, a male TERF, made a response video on Twitter. And all of his little followers were, like, saying that I made my Twitter private because of the video, which wasn't true. It had been private for a long time. Well, you just deleted your Twitter, right? And now it's completely deleted. But I had screenshotted the video because it's truly one of the ugliest people I've ever seen. And I was sitting. I was sitting on it being, like, should I post about this or just let it roll off my back? And I said, you know what? Fuck you. I'm posting it. And I did. And I made a TikTok. And it made a lot of people laugh. So here's the thing. I think, yeah, it's a little bit more fita now. I'm, like, maybe we're taking this laying down. Take your ops and turn them into opportunities. That's Project 2025. Enter media. Clip that. Look right down the barrel at the viewer. So it's important for people to see, like, what we go through in a day. And by the way. By choice. Drinks from Mountain Valley. Yeah, I do say that every time in the mirror. Every morning I go, you did choose this. But I love creating things. It's just like, my God, to say all that to me. Also, you must be familiar with the humor. This means that my short form did work on you. It was landing. I just, it's crazy. You're actually complimenting me in a way. So insane. I want to play something, a sound clip from CNN, but it's a minute long. So maybe I won't. Totally. Should I play it? What is it? So it was after the Zelensky meeting. Okay, yeah. And I just thought to me, like, the library is open. Yeah. Are you ready? Of course. Guys ramble on and on about this. Let's just cut to the chase. The president of the United States is a coward. Who is Vladimir Putin's puppet. The vice president of the United States is a pogue and a coward who is Donald Trump's puppet. And so what we just witnessed was a meeting in the Oval Office between two cowardly puppets and a hero. And whether you voted for these puppets or not, just as an American, as a fellow American, it's just embarrassing that the only hero in the Oval Office, the only decent human being for that matter, is the Ukrainian. I mean, this administration is going to go down as an embarrassment to American history. Can you believe? He wore little Chanel glasses while he said that. And he put them on. And he put them down on his nose bridge a little bit. And he said, reading is fundamental. You can feel like shit and someone in a basement can make you feel like total shit. And your bestie can bring you out of the ashes. Dante's Inferno. I watched that video. I literally, I screen recorded it because I was so obsessed. I'm so obsessed. I saw, I have to post this one TikTok. This woman was like, if you look like a she, I'm going to say she. If you look like a he, I'm going to say she. I'm going to say he. And then this girl clips it and goes, hi, sir. So I guess I, I had my sulfur mask on because, you know, sulfur is working. It's the big new thing. It's the big news. I smell like rotten eggs. But my God, your skin is good. God. And you know, it's a classic with the good comes the bad. And it's another life lesson. It's balance. It's balance. It's everything in moderation. It's balance. But oh, my God, I had my sulfur mask on. I laughed for 20. Hi, sir. Hi, sir. She just fucking read her down. TikTok is, you know what? I've decided TikTok is a good place. I agree. And I saw TikTok that someone had said, like, because people are commenting now, especially with the, like, Republican makeup tutorials being like, oh, the party of love and tolerance. And someone was like, I don't owe you shit. We're tolerant. And we want to lift up people who have been oppressed. We're not ever saying we were going to be nice to you. People that we disagree with. You're attacking marginalized communities. Exactly. Exactly. It's absolutely insane. Why would I respect you? I don't. And by the way, I can say whatever the fuck I want. I don't fuck with you. Clip that. Come on, girl. I can say whatever the fuck I want. Yeah. And so, and God, I'm tired. Yeah. So just know that there's people out there. That was a rep from Massachusetts who was just like on CNN sort of commenting on the situation. Just vibing off. And I was just like, that's fucking sick that he said that. That's actually crazy. And I fucking love that. You know who you should follow everybody right now? He logged on. He'd often had a steak for eats. Sorry. I saw his whole night after that. In DC. Yeah. He said, I fucking tore in that interview. And honey, medium rare with ketchup and alien on the side. Yeah. I read them to film. He was wearing boots when he did that. Jasmine Crockett. She's United States representative. And she is from Texas's 30th congressional district. Every single clip I see of her going viral, talking about white man's tears, talking about why can't Republicans admit that Russia invaded Ukraine? Oh, she was the one that they said, what would you say to Elon Musk right now? She goes, fuck off. Oh, I do. Oh my God. I do know her. She is so totally fabulous. And oh my God, that is so Taika, Taika button. Taika button. Taika button. Fuck off. Yeah. She goes, can one of my Republican colleagues admit right now that Russia invaded Ukraine? Silent. She goes, I yield my time. Oh, she has. She's coming for them. B-H-U-T-U-H-H-U-H. Fated. So Jasmine Crockett, Chris Murphy from Connecticut, AOC, Bernie Sanders. Anders. That's my Mount Rushmore of Democrats right now. And Monica. And Monica Barbarino. Not her name. Who, by the way, like I actually think she's a fabulous actress. She is a fabulous actress and you should play sisters. I agree. Top Gun. And then, of course, A Complete Unknown. And you know what? Can I say another thing? 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Who cares? Ride. So a few years ago, I don't even know what year it was that Sports Illustrated Swimsuit had launched the career of a gorgeous blonde from Connecticut, I believe. From Greenwich. From Greenwich, who went to Georgetown to play golf. With my sister, Katie. With your sister. Yeah. Who later went on to star in the movie Baywatch, which is one of my favorite movies. My favorite blockbuster of the last probably 15 years, maybe longer. I can only imagine the bucket they would have sold for that. Speaking of which, I was at my favorite Cinemark, North Hollywood, seeing Companion, which you have to see. I loved it so much. It's available on streaming, by the way. I mean, support theaters, but if you can't, then stream it. There was a Hulk, but he was red, which I think is Harrison Ford's Hulk, holding this huge rock. That was what you would get popcorn in. Terry went to the bathroom. I was this close to getting that and going, hey, here's your popcorn. The rock bowl. Just to see what his face was. But I just, I didn't have the energy because I'm seeing fucking shit like that. You're battling. You're battling bullies on the internet. Literally. Oh my God. So Kelly Warbach burst on the scene, needless to say. She really did. Yeah. She burst on the scene and she was one of the most famous people in the world for that time. Like she was everywhere. She was an incredible model and an athlete, ultimately, and an actress. And dated Leo. Maybe dated Leo. I can't remember. I believe that she dated Leonardo DiCaprio. So her Instagram, she has. If you didn't know his full name. Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah. Not any of the other ones that you might know. No, of course. Leo Woodall. Everyone went, she dated Leo Woodall. Yeah. So she has 9.6 million Instagram followers, 529 posts. And boy, is she activating them. So November 25th, 2018 is the last time she posted. Well, she knew COVID was coming. She knew COVID was coming and she said, I have to get out of here. So what I love about her Instagram is that it's truly like you have gone into a time machine and gone back to the 2010s, the 20 teens. Jackson, are you looking at it right now? You have to pull this up because, okay, can I just tell you some of the posts that are on this Instagram? Yeah, and captions. First of all, the filters that are being used are transporting me to another era. There is a post from March 5th, 2018. It is a boomerang of her in a red gown after the Vanity Fair Oscar party. And she's just doing a little dance with her arms, a little dance number. And it's the dancing emoji and it says inspo. So that's one thing. Oh, we all used to love that dancer emoji. She does not get the love she used to. She was, oh my God, she must. It's been tough. It's been tough for her ever since 2017 ended. Yeah, there are relics of her impact. Of course. There's a post from October 29th, 2018, where she is wearing a helicopter headset or like a plane headset. And it says, Roger that. Clear the runway. I'm flying this hog today with three emojis. Hashtag first flying lesson. Plane emoji. Wait, she said hog. You know, that's my favorite word lately. I know. Can you show me it? I need to see it. This I got to see. Oh my God. Yeah. Also, remember when like just one photo was all it took? Yeah. And remember when you just posted and it didn't have to be like glam. It didn't have to be high res images. It could just be like a picture of you going about your day with a filter on it. She had incredible engagement. It's so pure. Everything about it is so pure. Look at her at Grand Canyon National Park. Hashtag yacht life. But she's not on a yacht. No. And it's just like everything about it. Here's a boomerang of her in a white jumpsuit with a purple shirt. With a purple wig on. Show me that. That's a birthday party. And then there's another picture of her in the same outfit. And it says night fever, night fever. Like she says night fever and then hashtag night fever. No, just it's just simple. It's clean. Oh, like, do you remember this time? It's such like a lost part of our history as a people. And I think we need to be celebrating the fact that it exists somewhere. Because Valencia, it's Nashville. It's Kelvin. Wait, don't. So many people. Don't bring up Kelvin. So many people would have archived. These pictures and these posts. And I just love, first of all, how many of them. For example, I have 227 posts on Instagram. She has 529. You could be on this for hours and still not have seen everything. Her engagement's through the roof. I mean, she had to feed these kids. A Cosmopolitan cover. And the caption says, Chica, what? So surreal to see myself on the cover of Cosmopolitan. Thank you to everyone who made it possible. And she just stopped. She just stopped. So what I think is cool is that she walked away from being a public figure which is something that I think more of us should think about doing. More of us should consider. She was with The Rock on set. Alexander Daddario. Zac Efron, for goodness sake. Well, of course. You know, I still haven't seen that movie. This really inspires me. Maybe I need that today. We should watch it. So Kelly Warbach, what's important to note is that she sort of went dark. I just want to see what year they got married. So for my records. Just because I want to see if the timing matches up. Because it's important. Well, this is investigative journalism. It's investigative journalism. Look at my diva go to work. They got married in 2019. So she literally said, I fell in love. I'm going to be happy and have a life for myself off the internet. And this is goodbye. Do they have kids or just married? I don't think they have any kids that are on record. Fabulous. But if they did, we maybe wouldn't know because they live, they're private citizens. Wow. Do you get the power of that? To be at the height of fame and literally walk away. To start this pod the way we did and to talk about this. Hey, I get it. I get it. also probably had such weird stalkers. I mean, if you're an SI, like it's, it's given stock Macarena. Yeah. And Baywatch, which was a huge, huge movie. Yeah. Well, Blockbuster even. And so I just think. Oh, I just saw the bucket. It's a life. I just saw the bucket. I mean, this is what marketing is now. You understand. I've been thinking about what overcompensating would be. A huge dick. It'd be a golden dick. I was going to say. Yeah. But Baywatch would be the lifeguard kind of hut. What are those called? Oh, I know what you're talking about. The lifeguard hut. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. So I just think it's really powerful to see someone who just decided to like live her life. And the Instagram to me, I'm not saying it in a making fun of type of way. Like I genuinely love going on it and remembering when it was life was so simple. No, I know. And it was just like, you would take a photo in app, swipe to the filter, put a little caption in it that said like swag and then post. And, and your 10 family members who followed you were like, they ate that shit right up. And there was less pressure. It wasn't as much of like a, a tool for people. It was more just like a record, like, you know, proof that you exist. I mean, to do the dancing woman boomerang, like we have to get boomerangs back. I agree. There is a boomerang and overcompensating. Yes. Well, thank God. Easter egg. Easter egg. Yeah. So I just love her Instagram. I visit it a couple times a week just to like, yeah, just remember when things were simpler. Pre-COVID. Future nostalgia. Future nostalgia. Well, she knew it was coming. I know. She's very intuitive. So she got married and she hunkered down. You know, I've never met her, but I have met her a couple of times. And she's lovely. I mean, there's connections here, but my sister, yeah, played golf with her and loved her so much. Also, I love that there's more than meets the eye. Sports illustrated supermodel, actor, and then also like a golfer who went to Georgetown, your alma mater. Yeah. This it's, do you see how ride this is? To me, it's family. Do you see how many layers there are to this ride? Well, of course. Oh my God. You know what? It's like a cronut. It's like a cronut. Have you seen those? It's what's that word? It's what are those words called when you combine words? A portmanteau. It's a portmanteau of ride culture. Cause maybe listen to the episode bleep it where I rode for Baywatch. Oh yeah. Ride was ride. I rode for Baywatch. Yeah. I don't. Yeah, you did. I just think it's important to remember and revisit the sacred texts, which is a lot of what your ride is about. Kelly is kind of like, God, this bitch loves me. I just, I, I respect the decision. You respect the work. Well, she has a lot of things that like you look up to sports illustrated going blonde, going blonde. Yes. Being in a movie with the rock. Who's one of my favorite actors, sportsmanship, sportsmanship, friendly competition. Of course. Of course. Well, that's all there. Oh my God. Wow. And it probably the power of manifestation. I don't know that she manifested all the good things that have happened to her, but I have to believe that somewhere there she has been channeling. It's very like she did that. She did that. You know what? And then she left that we could all learn a thing or two from Ms. Rohrbach about creating art and walking away and trouble a little bit of trouble. And then saying I'm out ending with a boomerang. Is that her last post? I will tell you what her last post is to end on fair Oscars. Oh, so the last post is a, it's two photos and it's a picture of a palm tree in the ocean and a boat in the ocean. And then if you swipe, it's a picture of Polaroids, which is so classic 2018. Yeah. And she says grateful for a week of fun in the sun with my squad. Hashtag Turkey tribe, hashtag Bahamas mamas, and then a bunch of emojis. Hashtag Bahamas mamas. And her bio good vibes only smiley face. Well, yeah, I mean, fuck. I don't bring that back about this at the time. I didn't think we had culture. Do you know what I mean? I was like, oh, I wonder what like people, but now I see, like, I know the fashion it's pitch perfect. It's frozen. It's Beyonce that the surprise album drop. It's just crazy to think about like the mindset I had at that time. I mean, I just love it. Were you a Sephora girl at that time? Uh, this was post working at Sephora. Okay. We were at Warby. We were at Warby. We were heavily at Warby. We had our reading glasses on. And from there, you know, did a little bit, a few other companies on the startup circuit and then decided to pursue my career. And then I was like, oh, my dreams. And in a lot of ways, inspired by how fun is it being in the same room? I know it's really cool. Let's get into Dante's Inferno. Okay. So here's the thing. I have not read Dante's Inferno since high school, but I had amazing AP English teacher, Mrs. Freeman. Love you, girl. Obviously gay and AP English teacher like means the world to me. I am a part of that. Like I, unfortunately, that thing could not be more accurate. I know it's one of those things you see on the internet and you're like, there is no one single human experience. It's all shared just as Kelly Warbox, Instagram. Well, to go from Kelly Warbox, Wikipedia and the button, the back button says, go back to Dante's Inferno. Like that's right. Do you get that in my Wikipedia app? Yeah, of course. So that's important. Yeah. So here's the thing. I haven't read it since I was in this AP English class, my senior year of high school, but I remember it being like one of my favorite things to study. I thought it was so iconic. It's so fight to anything about hell coming from like a Catholic boy. I'm like, well, like gay boy. I'm like, shit, this sounds kind of good. Yeah. So just start us off. But also like, oh, we're going to get into like Schiaparelli. Like this is going to Dante's Inferno like still inspires me to this day. So also, OK, here's what I'll say. Yeah. I want you to give me this and let's see what it sparks. Inferno is the first part of Italian writer Dante Alighieri's 14th century narrative poem, The Divine Comedy. Overcompensating. Overcompensating. Long form. The Divine Comedy. The Divine Comedy. Long form comedy that really works. Followed by Purgatorio and Paradiso. The Inferno describes a journey of a fictionalized version of Dante himself. I mean, self-referential like it's loosely autobiographical. Overcompensating. Hello. Of Dante himself through hell guided by the ancient Roman poet Virgil. In the poem, hell is depicted as nine concentric circles of torment located within the earth. It is the, quote, realm of those who have rejected spiritual values by yielding to bestial appetites or violence. Being gay. Yeah. Or by perverting their human intellect. Being gay. Gay. To fraud. Being gay. Gay. Or malice against their fellow men. Gay. Being gay. Yeah. End quote. As an allegory, The Divine Comedy represents the journey of the soul toward God with the Inferno describing the recognition and rejection of sin. How you doing, Jackson? All known. I remember Judas being like really low. He was like way down there. Like you really had to go through the rings. But this thing to me, I mean, it was definitely like Catholic guilt. And it's just like, oh, my God, you guys are all just such fucking sick. I mean, it's just like, oh, my God, you guys are all just such fucking sick. But there was something so like, I don't know. It just felt so epic to me. It felt like the Da Vinci code to me. Also, I believe three beasts approach him. And I was reminded of this because Schiaparelli did a fashion show when Kylie Jenner, you know, the lion head and Naomi. And then another. I think Shalom was the wolf or Naomi was the wolf. He had a fashion show that was based on Dante's Inferno. And that just I mean, it just is the reference. It brought it all rushing back. I think it's so cool to. Inspire an idiom. So, you know, the seventh circle of hell when people refer to something. Oh, my God. Like that's the seventh. That's Dante on the beat. That's Dante. And so I think it's really cool to like create something that's just like it's so inspiring to so many things that came after it. Well, yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Hey, totally. And it was written in thirteen hundred, which means or thirteen twenty one, I believe, which means he was around at the and tell me who's on them because this is going to bring it all back. I remember one being like, there's like greed. And it kind of reminds me of that America's Next Top Model photo shoot where it's the seven deadly sins. Where the girl's friend had just died and then she had to be in a grave. She channeled it through rap. Through the work. That was such an empowering episode to me when she's screaming in the coffin. Fuck. First circle of hell is limbo. Oh, okay. Yeah. Second circle is lust. We're in limbo right now. We are. We really are. Before the show comes out, we're in limbo. Okay. Jackson. Third circle, gluttony. Okay. And Cerberus was there. So that's the great worm. If that means anything to you. I mean, where are the worms? Where are the worms? See how this Dante's Inferno is Ride Heritage. It's Ride Heritage. Okay, keep going. Circle five is wrath. So that's like the person that commented that on your post. And AMTM, she channeled that. And we saw that. We saw wrath reflected back at us. We did. When she did that. Sixth circle is hearsay, which is also the comment that was left on your Instagram. It's some bullshit. So then seventh circle is violence, which we hate, except if you are fighting Nazis. Exactly. Then we have fraud. Fraud is like, so fraud is high or low on there? It's like pretty close. Fraud is toward the bottom. Whoa. It's the eighth circle. Wow. They're really hard on frauders. Yeah. Fraudists. So it says, here's the thing about this Wikipedia. You can't just like pick a quick quote off of it. Well, of course not. There's like, every sentence is a paragraph. Do you get that? Let me see. Can I see your phone? It's really hard. Maybe I'll see one thing that really, oh, the image. Oh my God, the imagery. I remember having to draw this out. And of course, you know, I did it to hell. Gay guys know how to draw. Let me tell you. Okay. Limbo. Virgil states that he saw Jesus descend into limbo and take Adam, Abel, Noah, Moses, Abraham, David, Rachel, and others. See limbo of the patriarchs. It's a whole other page. Whoa. Into his all forgiving arms and transport them to heaven. So it's very much like bring the homies with you. You understand? Bring the entourage. Bring your bestie with you out of limbo to heaven. No, we'd go to purgatory. For sure. I wonder what the difference is there. I mean, I never read the other ones, but I was more of a Dante's Inferno girl and I knew that to my heart, my heart's core. Yeah. But let me see. So it's this castle. Oh my God. You're going to die. You're going to die who he encounters, Dante. Who? Dante next encounters a group of philosophers, including Aristotle. No. With Socrates. Socrates and Plato at his side. galaxy brain no literally the ninth circle is treachery and this is where he encounters judas this final deepest level of hell is reserved for traitors betrayers and oath breakers its most famous inmate is judas judah judah judah that is so when he comes to me i am red day ear condom she said that she wrote that into a major pop song ear condom yeah Gaga I love you Stephanie pause up pause up in the next episode I'm going to talk about when we met Lady Gaga and what that what that did for me what did you take away from the works of Dante here's the thing I think I took away I I find darkness really interesting to me like I think I've always been interested in like horror like I love horror movies I I don't know there's maybe it's the Scorpio in me there's something very interesting about this level of punishment and also what I kind of thought was interesting about it I'm like finally you've described it because you you guys are talking so much about hell well let's see the landscape I want to see the architecture yeah the architecture it's like it's such an abstract thing for most exactly I'm like take me through the levels and Judas being in the last one is so petty of them and petty of Dante like I don't know if that's the worst thing you could possibly do I mean I guess Judas like actually I don't know if that's the worst thing you could possibly do I mean I guess Judas like maybe it is being a betrayer betrayal is like it hurts the worst first cut is the deepest yeah so okay I don't know how the inferno ends fraud should be in purgatory like you know what I mean fraud can be bad though that's so true it depends I don't think it's like credit card fraud if you're defrauding credit card companies like have Dante said it was credit card he said like it's credit card fraud that's really bad everyone on this level credit card fraud but I think fraud to me is like a like fraud like representing yourself fraudulently or like not being like pure of spirit like showing who you really are yeah I guess if it's not pure of spirit because sometimes I think people like they have their identity is they're trying to protect themselves from hurt but that's not fraud to me that's like self-preservation but I like to think that the inferno is about the strength of human spirit I mean we can endure so much and we are right now and I definitely never thought we'd be living through another like sort of civil rights era like I sort of was taught in school that that's behind us but it does feel like right now we are in like one of the circles of hell and we need to just say we're right around five or six we need to we're in the middle of the getting close to nine all of us together we're gonna get out let's get up and you know what we might be in limbo for a little bit but we're gonna keep clawing I have no doubt now more than ever that we are gonna get through this and it's gonna be okay it's just gonna it sucks that we have to spend so much of our adult life like fighting for things that should be a given but we're here and we are gonna fucking fight and we're not going anywhere hold your bestie close Virgil see all the lessons I learned they get to level six who are all these people these are homosexuals sorry oh yeah these are the gays they're gonna get out soon though yeah I've got plans for them oh these they're saddamites what I like too about this work that I never read it by the way you will love it it's such a beach read for you I'm sure I'm sure I'll fly right through it it's a page turner it really is though like I can't it's just something about it and it's kind of one of those things it's like sometimes when you watch a movie like the brutalist which I thought was completely it all happened and was real like about it was your tar it was 100% my tar I read it was kind of like well this is what hell is at the time I remember being like yeah this all tracks like I get it I think what's cool is writing a book that has so many other historical figures so the amount of research that has to go into a book like that because you have to it's very midnight in Paris I would see I was gonna say Gia Tolentino's book but it's very midnight in Paris too yeah in order to reference those people and their beliefs and what they would say if you were fictionalizing them you have to have a deep knowledge of the text Old Testament and New Testament say yeah it's almost like fan fiction it is it's very fan Dante's interno is fan fiction no it really is no I can't speak also do you hear my stomach I'm so hungry I know we're about to go to Zinke I'm so hungry we're about to have Lebol there is this place in LA called Zinke and you can get a thing called Lebol so you know we're about to have that yeah we're gonna get Lebol I'm exhausted it's exhausted it's exhausted I'm kind of doing the best I can and I think like you know you're my Virgil in a lot of ways and you're like hey it could be worse look at all these freaks you're like hey it could be worse look at all these freaks yeah I have nothing to add sorry I have nothing to add it's just we're all it's we're tired but we have to keep fighting I think we should start a book club let's read Dante's Inferno together what do you think yeah let's do it the first book in our book club you know the second one will be green lights of course yes and the third one will be a picture of Dorian Gray portrait of Dorian Gray or whatever oh please you get to limbo and then it's Matthew McConaughey there waiting to take you through all the levels of hell I would love that I would love that which one's Elon in low he's in treachery I guess high numbers yeah there's a lot of frauds I see lots of frauds in Hollywood LA is plastic that's what we're gonna end on you know what you are Mary Beth bisexual oh yeah but you're also my ride or die ride or die so I obviously ride for oh I forgot about ride or die it just felt so like obvious that we both ride for each other I do think that that's kind of what this show is yeah I think as besties like real recognize real and I'm always gonna agree with my girl only a couple things make my lower back sweaty and I think I've really warmed up to group chats I'm really I'm kind of like you have turned a corner I'm more in limbo and can I say one thing you started a group chat on Saturday what'd you think I loved it well I had to tell all of you that you were getting the episodes I know it was so cool and people aren't abusing the group chat they're not constantly talking in it they're saying things when they have something to say exactly well Terry's in London right now so group chats with him are kind of dizzying because it's time zones you want to talk about the Inferno I got to read through all my little well you were at Benihana's the other night while he and I were talking in the group chat and then you had a lot to catch up on there's actually a Benihana's in level five Vedante's Inferno yeah they're chopping it up in there yep I love it there by the way you know but I was so it's hibachi right yeah of course I was so embarrassed I went there with all of our post-production team I love them all so much we had so much fun but one of them goes did you pick this place because it's like kind of like Benidrama 7 and I was like no I swear to god no but I kind of love that I know I was like please do not say that I'm telling everyone you ride for Benihana's yeah because it was yeah it was one of those things where I was like that's I'm obsessed that that's the lore that's leading you into a night at Benihana's I haven't thought about hibachi in a while but it feels to me like do me a clip please it almost feels like along the way the lines of arcades and fro-yo places like at some point we won't have hibachi anymore and I just think it is like such a fun place to have a birthday watching the co-worker catch meat in their mouth like you're not going to see it's the most human thing I've ever seen it was like one of those things where I watched and I'm sorry I'm not going to name names but at one point the girl who was sitting near me they threw meat at her mouth I can't even I'm looking around my pants I'm going to pee I have to pee so bad we have to wrap it up you know when someone opens their mouth and their tongue reaches the bottom of their chin she was a gay she said I'm going to catch that meat she goes that shrimp is going to hit the back of my freaking throat it's going to touch the what's that thing called you your little thingy you're the little danglier yeah well I read for Kelly Warbach's Instagram I'm obsessed with well I really want to make one of those like what are those called where you bury it oh a time capsule I really want to make a time capsule are we going to cut that no we're keeping that god damn it I'm so hungry and tired I need a diet coke so bad wait I'm going to pee in my pants you better piss no we have I have cried on the pot I haven't peed myself on the pot yet go piss girl I'll finish out I'll say whatever I need to I just I love it it's a time it's future nostalgia to me I love that time god knows what we were posting at that time I would have loved to really know you at that time I have my archive we can go through together we met in 20 we met in 2018 I think oh and then she was like I'm not posting anymore she goes Jenny and Mary Beth have met my work is done she said I'm out Kelly we love you sweetheart come on the pod wait we're her comeback I would love to have her on the pod and just ask her what she's been up to and I can't clarify this enough I'm seriously riding for it it's not irony it's not sarcasm I'm obsessed with it you have brought this up to me multiple times on trips even on trips in the car I'm saying well you're like have you seen this and I'm like no is she did she post and you're like she hasn't posted in a long time well there's something about a piece of media that's not posted it's not changing it's the same it's static and I say that's comfort to me because it's not changing yeah we don't get that every day and also that she didn't go delete it it's something about like really which I love I love it's like this is all of me although some people I would delete your old tweets but there's something about being like that was me then this is me now but you don't get to see me now she's saying I stand by everything I said now you see me now you three me so what about you do you ride for I ride for Dante's Inferno as you know I like what is it Dante Alegrio Dante Alegrio I'm not sure I think it's Dante Barbarito it's Dante Barbarito I ride for sort of iconic works of literature and things that have withstood the test of time you know that's one of my whole deals I know I was with you once when you bought Catcher in the Rye it was very cool and you know what I got it at Great Escape Books in Toronto lovely hit them up I just think we need to read more literature and as you said we can't look forward to the future until we know where we've been so until we know what's down there it's very incoming incoming yeah look down don't look up stream it on Netflix whoa that was a good movie I liked it me too it was a cultural commentary if you didn't like that movie leave a comment Look inward. Well, here's my thing. J-Law's bangs. I loved that. It felt like such a choice in a good way. And Cate Blanchett's veneers. Whoa. Yeah. Fake veneers. Meryl Streep's president. Hut, hut. Yeah. So I guess that's all we have to say. Happy Red Hairdress Month. Next week is, of course, the hitchhike. If there even is a podcast. If there even is. Is there? Oh, my exit. Benny, babe. Eyes on the road. Benny, look out! Ride!