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Kelly Mantle Demands More Glamour and Less Clamor with Trixie

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Kelly Mantle Demands More Glamour and Less Clamor with Trixie

Kelly Mantel’s podcast has evolved into an unfiltered, high-energy space where drag queens share deeply personal, often dramatic stories with complete honesty. Unlike traditional talk shows, there’s no scripted dialogue or preparation—guests speak freely, leading to emotional outbursts, confessions, and unexpected revelations. This raw authenticity has made the show a cultural phenomenon, likened to Barbara Walters or Wendy Williams in drag circles. Kelly doesn’t seek drama; instead, she welcomes it as a natural outcome of the space she creates. The chemistry and trust between guests allow for vulnerable storytelling, like the emotional depth of the Ginger Minge interview or the candid discussions about personal relationships and experiences. Behind the chaos, Kelly reflects on her own journey—from early drag beginnings to navigating fame and performance—highlighting her comfort in authenticity over polish. The show also touches on broader themes: drag culture’s evolution, the power of storytelling, and how personal experiences (like being in a hospital or attending events) shape identity. Kelly’s personal anecdotes—such as her experiences with Uber drivers, smoking, poppers, and even a suspiciously large raven in her yard—add a grounded, humorous edge. The podcast also explores drag’s place in mainstream events, questioning the absence of drag queens at high-profile fashion events like the Met Gala. Ultimately, Kelly’s show thrives on spontaneity, emotional honesty, and the unscripted connection between performers, making it a unique and vital voice in LGBTQ+ cultural discourse. The live format, introduced in Boise, Idaho, further amplifies this dynamic, blending music, dance, and audience interaction into a full sensory experience.

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you guys this is not the kelly mantel show we don't have some kind of fabulous typed up perfect intro but kelly mantel is here and so it kind of is the kelly mantel show so kelly what if i gave you an opportunity to introduce yourself the way you do on your own show hello i'm trixie mattel hello i'm trixie mattel hello i'm trixie mattel and this is the bald and beautiful and my name is katya how's that have you been drinking no i haven't been drinking my uber driver was drunk what do you mean you're how can you do you breathalyze him yes oh you know what he was breath i know kelly's and he was slurring for once i wasn't a drunk one how can you tell huh how drunk like he was visibly drunk i was talking to him and he was slurring all of his words he was taking wrong turns he was swerving all over the road i mean i live for this i i have the worst died for it like yeah when it comes to ubers but i don't look at it as bad luck because i kind of live for the fact that all of my uber drivers are batshit crazy or they're really horny for the girls oh that's true the drivers especially at nighttime honey i think we all during the day yeah you know when you get your uber license whatever you have to do to be an uber i think there's a seminar they make like a like a worship the dolls seminar they make you like be a part of right because there's something about the taxi girls the suv driving girls the uber girls they love to look in that rear view yeah and i felt real good when i got in one night to an uber and i was leaving precinct and i was like i thought he was flirting with me and then he tells me he's blind and i was like i'm offended and then he's driving it hit me how are you driving my uber driver was blind listen a compliment's a compliment honey it's 2026 you're a woman of an advanced age hey no i'm not okay i am a little goth girl today just for you kelly walked in i said hello little goth girl i am just your little doll for the day you know actually i think this is kind of an homage kati would wear she loves a little prairie dress this is kind of wednesday tea well i want to you know it's in honor of katya we we love katya we're sending all of our well is she getting the penis enlargement or is she getting it taken off i she hasn't told everybody what she's getting oh okay and i don't want to like blow up her spot but it is full body lipo and yeah so would you ever go get the full yank like the full like like oh honey i am long overdue can we talk you think you would really get in too close but i am long overdue kelly i actually think you look great thank you your skin looks incredible are you doing something different um well i use bleach no you and sand paper from home depot you drink bleach do you think semen smells like egg whites and bleach no um the particular semen that i partake in happens to smell like monster monster energy drink i'll let you put two and two together he was he was in the marine corps shout out to james shout out to james you guys i just want you to know if you're ever having a tough day and you feel like the human race is plotting against you just know that someone out there is married to and lives with kelly oh my god what are you like as a wife as a roommate honey you know i am so chill you are i am so chill i'm not chill when i'm in front of a camera i'm a ball of nerves yeah but when i'm just lounging at home you know i'm giving my gwen stefani honey i got my hair up in the well minus the religious app and the prayer app and all that other bullshit but i'm talking the look i got my hair up in a little high pony honey she's wearing a little jean cut off daisy dukes and a little wife beater you know getting around the house and just chilling you just described like somebody going as white trash for halloween well that's pretty much my life i have to say i mean we are a very white trash couple so that's true but very liberal i love james love in another timeline james was like at january 6th oh honey do you know what i mean completely the sunglasses yeah the wrap around sunglasses on the hat these colors don't run yes axe body spray all a three-in-one body shampoo all of that honey does he still do that even he does if even he goes ahead and washes you know what i go through phases where i feel like the joke is that straight guys love that but when i'm on tour i'm bald i do like a multi-use item yeah i'll use it a three-in-one is that horrible i think we have to bring back the integrity of the three-in-one hair what are you using on there for do you do you wash your hair i mean do you wash your my partner has shampoo so i use it i think it's more like phantom limb syndrome i'm just like oh my gosh i mean you sit in the shower and you kind of rub your fingers well if you lost all your teeth you would still brush your gums would you let's take a break i don't know i'm not a dentist you know i should ask well my parents have both crossed over but they both had dentures i wonder if they brush their gums they had dentures they did you saw them with the dentures out oh yeah they used to take them to get them cleaned and then my mom would lose hers all the time and one time she sat on them and she's like oh there they are bit me in the ass i think sometimes people get too comfortable and they like put them in their pocket yeah because when i had a house coat all the time yeah when i had invisalign i'd like put it in my jeans pocket or something and then later be like i can't find it i'm like you do need to put it somewhere exactly you can't just throw it raw dog in the pocket honey what have you always had these perfect teeth uh born with them these are your stunning perfect these were they were this size when i came out of my mama's coochie you were a toothy child i was a very toothy child i still am you chewed your way out honey did you bite your own umbilical cord honey i bit my umbilical cord and i threw it in the trash can okay i have a question you're like a serious actress obviously and i remember when you started i thought you were going to talk about that play what is that play about the nun that got pregnant and she had the baby and cut the umbilical cord and put it in the trash can i can't remember the name of it agnes of god oh and it's also a movie i'm not seeing that anyway why would i have talked about that um i have a question because when you started doing the kelly mantle show which has gotten all this breakaway success now we are going to talk about that because i don't know how you've accidentally become the epicenter of drag drama on your channel girl how what is it about you that these girls come on there and say things they act like there's no cameras it's wild they start telling you things about other drag queens i see these clips on tiktok from your show where i'm like the girls come on kelly mantle like it's like they're being given the firing squad tomorrow isn't it the truth it's their tell-all and i am always caught off guard i have never like you're not even fishing for it i don't fish for it i never expect it i think of it as a comedy podcast and so i try to keep things as light and comedy and surreal and you know it's so funny because i see all these things online all the time saying kelly mantle is the barbara walters of drag um i do love kelly mantle is the wendy williams of drag i'll take that one but i think wendy williams is the wendy williams of drag well that's true she definitely is but yeah they get on there sometimes honey and they just start i mean we've had people cry i think so many people have cried and i love it i live for it i think it's an energy you know i think it's an energy and i think that i love chaos and i love drama but i don't ever um cause it does that make sense you're like um you attract it yeah but you're not like the um the instigator of it exactly because these girls come on there i swear to god you're like so where were you born and they're like you know who i hate i don't know what it is kelly they like pivot to exposing one another i know and i'm sitting there with my mouth wide open honey the other thing is you're not even privy to the drama so like something like that like the ginger interview you like are getting all this truth bombs from her without really even fishing for it i have said this on the podcast and i will say it again the ginger minge interview i have loved ginger for years i don't know her that well we only worked together once for that uh telethon or whatever that's really the only time i've ever interacted with her from afar been a fan love her she's incredibly nice incredibly nice wonderful on the pod and she's shared all these amazing stories about dolly about uh kathyna jimmy unbelievable stories well unbelievable to some people but i was sitting there going oh my gosh this is amazing i had no reason not to believe any of this stuff and i'm like these are great experiences you're also pretty gullible well ginger could have been like so then i was the president for four years and you would have been like wow no i believe people i'm not this is the thing uh-huh and this is not just about whoever's not telling truth in drag right right i don't require drag queens to be truth tellers girl hello we're not the notary public no we're not lawyers we're not doctors we all have fake names tell me a story we run around with suitcases with a bunch of different currency with disguises let the girls lie entertain me when you are especially if you're on my podcast and that's when rupaul kissed me on the mouth you know i mean like embellish the story did that really happen was it when you played him on snatch game i think that rupaul was not interested in kissing me when i did that no i think i'm lucky i didn't get slapped one time i worked with her on something i forget what we were on and rupaul i'm supposed to be rupaul's assistant i have like her juice and i'm her driver or something i don't know i'm in drag she's it was i think he was on drag race and rupaul comes out and goes like we're doing our little scene and rupaul goes can we add a slap and i was like wow something about me just inspired us rupaul had the impulse the actor's impulse you know honey the actor's way it was that snatch game yeah it was that snatch game she wanted to snatch you up honey i think it was before that this was like season it was like a long time ago what is your uh what was it like working with michelle on queen of the universe girl it was fierce and you know what's funny i read that book the diva rules by michelle visage because i didn't really know michelle i wasn't really sure if she liked me so i thought if i read her book i would have some like you know when you make a show like stop and start i thought i would have something to talk about maybe she'd be flattered or at least maybe i'd have a greater understanding of what she's about that book turned me out really i it opened my eyes to the fact that drag race in my experience in my opinion they kind of credit her as rupaul's friend which is true but the book talks about her enmeshment in ball culture her days in her girl group her storied career that drag race doesn't really touch on that much isn't that wild so i don't know like seduction was the first interracial girl group with these like massive singles massive tours i mean she thought she was madonna yeah i mean like michelle's really cool career and story doesn't really get unfolded on drag race the way drag race is always talking about rupaul's story right and so i only knew michelle from drag race so the book was really interesting because there's a lot of michelle before drag race came along yeah because i see i my first exposure to drag to her obviously was the girl group and then it was when she was rue's uh sidekick on the talk show and then they had a radio show together yeah she had a radio show the talk show yeah um and then rupaul writes a foreword in the book and rupaul's memory of meeting michelle was like being at a nightclub and seeing a woman in like a black lingerie nightie just walk across the floor girl just some some young girl in a nightie it was probably turning bedtime stories it was her and that was like her first impression of michelle and also the book was really interesting because the book has old pictures of michelle michelle is the face card oh honey is on fire still snatched snatched out of her mind well i love that show i wish they'd why did it get canceled i thought the queen of the universe was so good i don't know actually we only did the two seasons but it was really fun oh my god i loved it it was some of those queens honey those whores could sing the girl the girl from france that did levy on rose oh my god she was amazing there's some fabulous singers on that show i know i never heard drag queen sing like that before i was like oh my god and i love your uh kiki with them let's have a kiki with luscious honey oh my god it's so good i think as we record this episode maybe it came out a month ago or something but um i was working on a remix of let's have a kiki and so was vanessa and she shared hers with me and i was like oh yours yours gorgeous devourers cute yours is really fierce and then she was like would you want to do some vocals for it i was like you know who we should get get luscious his ass down here because when i think of that like spoken word in the beginning of the original it's like who would have a good answering machine voice who would who wouldn't want to come home don't the kids they don't know about answering machines they were the kids that they don't know about answering machines oh did you ever have a real honest to god like tape answering machine honey not only did i have a taped answering machine i had one of those cheesy little outgoing messages what did you say it was like hello hello gotcha this is my answering machine so they would sit on the other classic kelly classic kelly and that's when you knew that comedy was for you and then we had beepers shut the fuck up okay that's that's that's before me my little marijuana dealer because this was before marijuana marijuana marijuana lives with mar-a-lago mar-a-lago this was before mar-a-lago was legal um you i'm at home smoking mar-a-lago i was home smoking oh my god that would be a good strain for a ween not that i support that or anything but that is actually a good name for a they do wear a lot of hair and makeup in mar-a-lago i think you could infiltrate that space you know what you say this every time i see you i am not a mar-a-lago lady are you sure i am a hundred thousand percent sure i would stand out like a sore thumb you know i would is that a threat who was it uh recently that um oh yeah anyway that's a great story kelly no i i was thinking let's take a break you explain to me because i'm just going to be a little ignorant here okay what's the fucking point of a beeper if you can't pick it up okay so this is what we would do because we didn't have cell phones right and so you would be you would page someone and uh with like a their number to go to your landline or a pay phone or whatever and call them because and if they put 9-1-1 on it it meant it was important what yes and so the marijuana dealers back then always had beepers and so you would beep them and everything and my marijuana dealer honey oh my god he was this gangster from like the chicago this one i live in chicago he was so hot and he beeped me one time when it wasn't i had not beeped him to get the marijuana oh you think he was like well while i'm here honey i was too scared to call because i was like what if this is a like he's interested and i didn't want to start something like that and i was like well i'm here honey i was too scared to call because i was like something with my marijuana dealer well i don't i've never had a drug dealer but colleagues have explained to me that it's a delicate balance of pretending to be their friend yeah right it's kind of like when you go get your hair done it's the small talk you know you're like i don't need the small talk just give me my weed right go to the doctor just refill my vivance and let me leave i don't need all the small talk well i think some people are like hey girl want to hang out they like have to pretend to be friends but it's really like the weed smoking yeah one time i was with but they were on the phone and like can we get a small or can we get a large it was like that coded where it was like i have a few people over can we get a large i'm like what like someone's tapped the phone they they came over and they had a dog it was a dog with it a little dog and the dog had one of those coats on no and the coat had pockets and that's what the drugs were oh no so i wonder if the dog was trained to be like honey and then like if the cops come the dog just takes off drag that dog into the ass the cop the dog's gonna get convicted right drug a dog catching a pomeranian catching a charge do you you don't have a dog do you no i don't have any animals or anything i i'm pro dog i'm not terribly pro cat i know that the sapphics who watch this hate that i'm saying i'm sorry i love dogs but you know i'm crazy about birds i'm a crazy bird lady you know what is so weird about that everything well every time i get with trixie we got to get a little woo woo you know since got to it's not here i almost brought my tarot cards today i thought we were gonna do another reading you totally should have um i think something's going on you know what is so weird about that the last few times i've seen you do you know that birds have been coming through do you know when i saw you a couple of weeks ago there was a black crow coming through and i was like what does this mean and what does it represent do you know about the one in my yard the one what the giant black raven in my yard who kills other birds and eats their body in my bird bath wait for real for real in your yard for real for real it is it's a raven it's the size of a football it's huge and it sits in my water fountain my front yard and literally eats the bones of other birds while staring in the window at me trixie it's crazy girl so i don't know that is insane i'm working on getting a bird right now and i'm like kind of like do i should i put my new bird next to the window to be like this is this is this is not your space what are you gonna get like a little parakeet something and you think that's gonna scare off that raven i'm looking for a very small macaw species or maybe like um i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm looking i'm debating between rescuing and going through a breeder obviously it's i think more ethical to try to rescue because birds are the number one most re-homed yeah and i didn't even think of that they have rescue birds just like they have rescued yeah rescue birds i love that you have to rescue one i would like to rescue but when you rescue sometimes you're inheriting the birds like behaviors history you don't know what if the last owner abused it and you get a bird that hates people or scared of you know you never know until you get it home but i i'm a lifelong crazy animal person right you like animals i love animals i'm the biggest animal lover in the world love every creature in the kind of animal i'm a huge dog lover i mean that's my passion do you guys have a dog i had a dog for 13 years edelweiss was her name oh what kind of dog was she she was a shih tzu and she passed away oh from what well she was old honey she was like 30 years old or something i don't think she was 30 no she was her teeth were falling out and everything honey she had had it do you know what though i think that means you're a really good owner huh having a pet get old as a privilege it means you took really good care right absolutely well we found her when i was in college so i had her her whole adult life yeah found her in the middle of a rainstorm we hung up signs every where vet clinics everything couldn't find the owners so it just kind of happened to you you weren't totally she came to me is that how you found james too is in the storm i found him in the wanted ads i know we talked about this one time when you were on here but does james have some kind of foggy idea that you are at one time a huge slut i think he's starting to figure that out because i think he has you on like stepford wife setting but he doesn't know that the other setting is like stripper circus i mean listen at the end of the day the true heart of a slut never leaves a slut even though she might not be active in that way i'm always gonna be a slut through and through honey the mind of a slut the heart of a slut the booty of a slut the moves of a slut mind of a slut the music of a slut honey i will always be serving sluts i think you need to go visit katya in the hospital if you go in in this outfit she's gonna think that you're the angel of death honey i will totally show up she'd probably she'd probably welcome that she literally honey at this point she's not loving being in a hospital and she's not living and loving visitors no because she's so uncomfortable and she's in pain she hates it um but i think if you go in let's go i almost went and dragged the other day like like like like a ronald mcdonald house vibe girl can you imagine the nurses on the floor would be freaking the fuck out if trixie mattel came in there it remind me the episode of reno 911 where they go to entertain the kids at the hospital and she pulls out her gun she's like it's not loaded then it goes off that would be me um that would be me but girl you have to go i have a question because you know that i have a weird para parasocial relationship with denise richards and i know that you have a denise richards story girl i don't know if i can tell the denise richards story how do you know i have a denise richard john mark told me shut up john mark told me is it good or is it crazy no it's insane it's absolutely insane but okay i won't mention any names but i have a we already said well no i'm talking about my friend okay the story's about okay my friend we won't mention any names my friend okay how do i say this my friend came over to my house one day i'm just going to start from the end of the story my friend came over to my house one day panicking banging on the door i opened the door and i was like what is wrong with you and she said do you have a wig and do you have an overcoat and do you have sunglasses give me your cell phone now and she goes and puts our cell phones on the stove in a skillet and puts a lid on them what and i'm like first of all i didn't even know i owned a skillet with a lid because i don't do anything like that why are you not reacting if someone put my cell phone in a skillet i was like what is wrong with you what are you doing and she said people can't track our phones this way and i'm like what is going on and she said just give me the disguise don't ask any questions i gotta go what the only thing she would tell me is that denise richards was after her okay this is sounding like a drug thing no it wasn't it's because my friend doesn't be sure drugs other than i follow this girl on instagram who thinks that sandra bullock is trying to kill her no and i don't think she's sandra bullock just doesn't get those vibes there is this no it's not a drug thing she was being for real for real but come to find out denise had been stalking her for years because of this mutual man that they both knew and so she had to go downtown in a disguise to drop off something but thought that denise richards was following her i just feel like unless you're in a movie a disguise is never the move do you have an overcoat and a wig unless you're rupaul well she loves the disguise i feel like rupaul walks around in a weird disguise all the time do you know about the time she came to see trixie and katya uh high school reunion no katya and i were doing a stage parody of romie michelle with peaches christ oh up in san francisco yes and it was trixie and katya's high school reunion like a parody of if katya and i went to high school together but it's the plot of romie michelle because we love romie michelle who doesn't before curtain peaches comes backstage and goes rupaul is here don't tell anybody in the cast because we don't want people to freak out by the time i walk out of my dressing room the entire cast is like rupaul's here word word travels like that and i'm like she is that's crazy but i had gotten a text earlier that day from someone at drag race being like rupaul's in town she wants to see your show i was like sure apparently she comes in last like right when the show starts she was in a sun hat a covid mask and a wheelchair a wheelchair because i think she's so recognizable tall i think it was like to hide out my gosh yes and this i did not see her but this is what i heard is that she was in like a proper disguise to see the show and i guess the thing is rupaul's so big right when you're seven feet tall you can't even secretly do nothing not at all tall people not at all bald people it's like every room is an announcement right exactly don't ask me how i know i know because i saw leslie uh jordan live one time there at the gay and lesbian center opposite of the renberg theater but rupaul came to see leslie and of course rue you know everyone notices rue right away not exactly yes sometimes people like when i used to go to casita camp i remember that i remember i seen sean hayes sometimes and it would be like someone like that where you're like this room full of people to see lady bunny they're gonna notice sean hayes exactly the lady bunny audience is gonna notice honey i saw jackie beat there one time i guess he was sitting one seat over from me parker posey with liza minnelli oh fierce are you fucking kidding me and casita del campo with like 20 people 70 seats 40 seats yeah exactly huge fire hazard oh huge fire you better hope there's never an accident that's going to happen i don't think there's ever an accident that's going to happen when i perform i want to perform in a place that is a fire hazard it just raises the stakes it raises the stakes and you're smoking exactly the outfits are very dry smoking hot did you ever smoke cigarettes i bet you did i bet you loved it too i bet it was very like bad sandy like tell me about it girl did you feel it girl you know she smoked those brown moors honey those long skinny ones honey did you feel it oh girl i'd sit there and flick that the world was my ash hole honey the world was my ash hole i just sit there and flick everywhere everywhere if i was like i think if i was like femme presenting there would be something about smoking that would feel hot oh it's so hot to me that's why it's just not sexy when men do it i think it's sexy when girls do because they're all like this and hold it like this and they got filters on it and they're like you know and they they know i was always like one that would tilt back and blow my smoke out you know from people and guys are just like right in your face and they're like oh my god man are just they can't help it they're sick they're hot when i was in college you know what got really big those clove cigarettes do you remember this they came in like a black container clove and white russian and the the cigarettes were also rainbow they were clove and they were rainbow and do you remember everyone just smelled like ham ham do you remember clove cigarettes kind of smell like ham or something they smell like black licorice oh i always thought they smelled kind of like someone's seasoning like a thanksgiving dinner or something what are you putting on your ham honey i don't eat ham so i don't know i'm not a good judge that's true because i don't eat ham when did you when did you stop eating meat uh about 10 o'clock this morning hello um when i was like i was nine years old nine years old i was obsessed with that movie charlotte's web the cartoon with um didn't not denise richards almost said that denise richards is in charlotte's web no oh the other real house mom carrie fisher's mom oh um debbie reynolds debbie no that's the mom that's what i just said carrie fisher's mom is debbie reynolds she was in is there an echo in here she's the voice of charlotte i didn't know that twinkle sparkle let a little sunshine that's debbie reynolds you'll be on the right side looking on the right side up with the chin chin chin you know she was all popped up on pills doing that it's a beautiful film and it made me it completely made it impossible for me to watch it because it was like separate animals from what's on the plate that is interesting that did not have that effect on me obviously i was terrified of spiders after seeing that reading about it and stuff i'm still not into spiders do you remember where the red fern grows the book girl i read that book they had to take me out of the room i was crying so hard i cried child abuse to death when that dog died you know what's crazy i remember the line his friendly brown eyes closed forever shut up you're gonna make me i was like in eighth grade i think i was no i was on a school trip no no my grandparents took me to disney world and i had to do my homework on the way because you miss a week of school or whatever you have to do homework and i was reading where the red fern grows crying in the back of a ford explorer on the way to florida like that is a sad book it is so sad they read it in class i had to be taken out of the room because i could not control my crying people dying sure no boss car children didn't care didn't care well they didn't die oh they didn't their parents were dead oh no that's why they lived in a box car oh really yeah it was kind of is that a true story i think they were orphans weren't they oh my god weren't the box car children orphans oh that is wild look look it up can you imagine she don't even know what the boxcar children are first of all who do you read yes you do i'm an avid reader what do you like to read i like to read biographies autobiographies things like that i just read i've been really into horror again just an i love to read horror but i get scared i have nightmares i just read this book called mother thing it's about this woman her husband her husband's mother kills herself what they've been living with and taking care of the mother-in-law husband's mother okay they've been living in the husband's childhood home taking care of the mother-in-law who's really crazy she slits her wrists and kills herself the book starts with them at the hospital being like your mother's dad why are you reading stuff like this i was reading it honey so then i'm worried about she's trying to help her husband process grief the mother starts haunting them she's being haunted by her mother-in-law and it's the the twist i will say the twist nobody's gonna read it so you're in that big old haunted house reading this you got the raven out there eating birds girl and you're reading about this it's scary honey this is dark sided very scary and the twist of the book is that she's crazy huh the twist of the book is that the wife is crazy you think it's not necessary but you know that's a lot of the themes and paranormal things which is like is it paranormal or are you losing grip with reality no you know it was it was really scary though i was it was nauseating and sick it was making me sick but i keep going on these tiktok wormholes of like the most disturbing horror books you could read and then i'm like i don't mean that no i need to get my body off the tracks no honey no i keep my reading lie i just i would i was reading um a sandra bernhardt book that i had not read before and i can't remember the name of it it's it came out after without you i'm not sure i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't but it was so good but she talks um madonna is in the little thing said this book saved my life because remember when they were friends madonna and who sandra bernhardt oh they were friends right yeah weren't they like besties uh-huh they were good judys i saw madonna the other night at the abbey oh yes i heard about that girl how was it honey listen it was really a who's who it was crazy can we talk about these events though you show up to these events and everyone is stressed the fuck out yeah and we need more glamour and less clamor oh i love that more glamour less clamor you also i feel you don't have to say because i will because everyone hates me but everyone loves you you're america's sweetheart if you're at one of these events and you do not have a wig on you need to be fluffing a pillow you need to be rolling on a carpet everyone's a pa if you're not a wig on a wig on you're a pa yeah you're involved in making sure the rest of us get in here exactly and sit down somewhere and there's a fan is there a drink am i comfortable am i well lit even getting from the car in yes is never fast enough the whole night was just clamoring clamoring i got clamored to get in the door i got clamored to get to the bar to get a drink i got clamored in space i got freaked out because you're there too right well i mean everyone there's a bunch of people there and like everyone's you know i mean it's it's lovely and it's wonderful and the energy is chaotic and great but the minute the music starts enjoy the moment everyone is trying so hard to clamor and we're talking like queens all the way in the very back i was like if you start now you'll never make it you'll never get closer to her what are you where are you going what is it you need and is your plan to run on stage with her what is the plan just hold your champagne glass up in the air and dance and enjoy the moment get your little then put your phone away and enjoy the moment we need more glamour less clamor honey who it was a who's luscious was there too right luscious was there kylie sonique was there luscious was right there i love all the pictures of her just sitting there just like adorning madonna yeah well she's at the dj julia fox was there julia fox and kylie sonique were dancing on the couch that i think eureka was dancing on for a minute and then evidently they pulled eureka out and kicked her out of the club i heard about that which i made the stupid decision to try to go to the bathroom in the middle of the set and on my way to the bathroom i saw eureka and she's like girl what's up and we hugged she said i love you i went on my way i never knew this was happening to her you had her kicked out honey i had her kicked out it was my fault blame it on madonna but i'm the one that had her kicked out i said get her out of here get her out of here god damn son of a bitch what kind of songs did madonna sing she didn't sing anything they just played like her new songs she just danced next to stewart on the track and they did hung up cool um i think they debuted a new one but like i said i had made the stupid decision to go to the bathroom in the middle of it and so i got slammed and pushed up against a brick wall and a barricade and i was stuck there the whole rest you see how you do see how you disrespect kelly mantel honey it's the abbey oh but girl i was living though because there was this big old tall drag queen standing next to me she's like i guess we're stuck here for the night and i was like i guess so and she's like here you go she's like i guess we're stuck here for the night she had a little bottle of poppers do you do poppers kelly i've never done before except one time on the podcast with willem and i didn't know they were real poppers what do you think of it honey describe the experience i felt free i don't feel so free it feels hot it feels claustrophobic i don't know i just did like one little snort or it's not a snort it's just like a you know you just breathe it in what i think is funny when people pull those out of the club loved it it's it's like it's not like you have to be this close to me to smell it so everyone in your five foot radius is now doing poppers really i just feel like i didn't know they were still a thing i didn't know they were i think it's trickled the trickle down economy i think straight people are on it now have you ever done them yeah but i don't i don't see the appeal no i really don't well see i feel that way about cocaine i've tried coke a few times in my life and i'm like oh give me i was like give me i'm not feeling nothing except agitated my nose holes are too big like a bump can you imagine i just i i don't know but no i appreciated that popper at that moment because if you're gonna be slammed up against a brick wall in a barricade and you're missing the whole last half of madonna and only hearing it yeah i was like well now i can get into this lately i just been um sitting home a lot but um i keep getting invited to things i've become so anti-social and i'm starting to feel like i wish i was more when i first moved to la i went to everything i went out all the time went out to dinner all the time lately i just like to stay home well honey you're you're turning over you're in a new chapter in your life i guess you're enjoying the hard work and success that you have put in continuously non-stop for how many years now 10 years since drag race and of course before that but i'm you know what i'm saying yeah so you're like it's you get a chance to sit back and like relax and enjoy it all and take it all in and be like yeah this is great you know i mean you you need to do that from time to time you know what i think it is too i think it's because pride is coming my body's clenching oh my body's like do you have a lot of dj gigs coming out my body is like if you want to go out have a drink you will be able to do that for about three straight months when you work every weekend at all these faggoty events so i think my body's like why don't you just sit home and have a glass of water you bitch you bald bitch why don't you just order some taco bell and sit down there's some taco bell i'll get you some taco bell i'll get you some taco bell i'll get you some taco bell come over honey i've been playing play tarot cards do you you're a gamer you like that stuff don't you lately literally this morning i woke up at 7 30 couldn't sleep anymore and i was like my boyfriend's not up yet i'm gonna tiptoe downstairs like christmas morning i'm gonna order some some tea and sit and play video games at eight in the morning it was a nice way to start the day i used to watch the news in the morning and now i just play video no honey that strategizes you your mind gets into strategy it helps make it wakes my mind up in a way that i'm agreeable to it and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh yes i've noticed for me if i'm like if i have a zoom at like 10 and i get up at 9 30 i'm so ornery and useless on that zoom like i need i'm getting to a point in my life where i need to boot up the machine hours before anybody needs me i'm the same way the minute i that when i get up i'll have a cup of coffee and i'll just kind of like take in everything and then i have at least 20 minutes of meditation staring at a blank white wall and listening to enya enigma something like that that doesn't have any words and it just lets you free your mind oh yeah you know it's so important to do that i think you know especially at the beginning of a day so that you can kind of become a blank canvas and take it all in i kind of get i maybe i'm getting old but i like this moment of like thinking about the day like mentally making peace with whatever the day is going to be whereas like if i wake up and i'm still a little bit sleepy i can't be fucking it puts me in a bad mood that doesn't go away all day because especially these times we're living in honey we have to center ourselves focus ourselves take care of ourselves yeah and be our best because every time we walk out that door honey it's a front line how do you um lock in on taking care of kelly well i start by doing that usually every day um that always centers me and focuses me i go to the gym i do i make the gym my priority i need at least 30 minutes of cardio and then some light lifting a good sauna i love swimming keeping active staying active you know keeping your mind acting i'm a great swimmer you are yeah do you listen to music in there yes honey oh yes absolutely you have music in your ears while swimming oh no not music in my ears i'll just have music playing like in your mind yeah or many times music is playing you're singing we just hear like water bubbles you know that is my dream someday is to do a music podcast because i one of my favorite things in the world to do is to just break down songs where did it come from why did you write this albums all the things music videos oh yeah jake shears did you see his podcast speaking of scissor sisters no but i love him oh my god he had a music podcast or he might still have he did so good yeah jacob i love the scissor sisters yeah i do too kids today don't know about the fucking scissor sisters i saw him live at the um what's that uh across from capital records where we just had the queerities oh with the queerities oh my god i think it's i don't think it was called avalon but i saw scissor sisters there when they first came out you looked great at the queerities thank you you looked really beautiful you came out and it was so fun and so did you you hosted the night and it was hilarious and you look gorgeous and you won can you believe it they don't tell me anything about who's gonna win so i found out when you found out i found out when you found out standing backstage john mark and i were leaving to because i had did that little bit with you on stage then we're like going back to our seats and the producer's like um you need to stick around that's your category and i was like oh honey we probably didn't win we're just gonna go grab a drink go back to our seats he's like actually and then i hear the kelly mantle show were you surprised i was so surprised i was like wait what kelly we have no idea what we're doing that is not true when kelly started the year when you started it you told me and katya like should i do this what am i gonna talk about no i think you verbatim said who's gonna want to hear me talk exactly why did you not think that i feel like for those of us who are fans of you that is what we want i don't know how to talk i'm not a good talker i'm actually very very quiet and shy in life so you always say that i am but you're always whored out of your mind talking drinking gesturing with a cigarette no i'm not kelly's like i'm a shrinking violet girl i don't know because the other thing that's hard for me too having been an actor my whole life i never had to be kelly mantle on camera before okay and that is really difficult to do like you're a pro at being tricksy mattel on camera that's the only thing i know how to do i was i don't know how i was like how am i supposed to do well and they're like well just be yourself and i'm like well what if you're a hundred different people from one day to the next i've been watching the royal housewives of beverly hills from the beginning don't ask don't ask i don't know i don't know you mean the new one it's i'm like is on it right now who is a soap actress yes she has like multiple daytime emmys she's been on 30 years of that show that big old house but i actually thought of you because one of the questions andy asked her at the reunion was eileen like basically asking her what was it like to go from your decades of experience acting to reality tv and she was saying like the reason i did it was because i'm so comfortable on camera after all these years like um i wanted something that would scare me and her talking about how like andy was like when you're on your show you have your line they tell you where to hit your mark i never really thought about for people who aren't used to reality that is like such a hard pivot it is and podcasting is kind of reality it really is both well and that's why rupaul's was so scary to me so i didn't realize it until i got there that i was like oh wait a minute i have to be kelly mantel oh yeah i didn't even think of that before i came here and i'm like i've never done that before other than like a little interview here and there throughout the years or whatever i was like wait i don't know how to do this yeah i was like you know i was like oh shit well there is that moment like when i remember when i first started doing drag i was not hosting the drag when you start doing drag you're not the host you're just some girl doing a lip sync or whatever and the host was she was a body queen and she was spray adhesiving fabric to her body you know some to their parts honey carmen carrera yes and she's like i need you to stall the microphone and i remember being like i never i'd never talked to the microphone like that no way but i always think back to that formative moment of just i didn't have time to be nervous right i just had to walk out there and talk well and look at you now i mean that's crazy that like you were handed a microphone and we were like wait what do i do but i had only lip synced before i thought that i was i thought what i offered was beauty and seductive movement well you weren't wrong and so then when i was like talking and then afterward the girl was like that was funny you should do more microphone stuff and i was like maybe but there are these moments like drag race where you are an actor and you get thrown into something uh-huh i i watched an interview clip today of you talking about being on drag race you trying to tell the cameras where to go girl listen now i wasn't directing to tell them where to go i heard you were telling them which side was your best side and to go over here they were setting things she did oh wait what i guess it was on this pod oh it was on this pod that i said that yeah i'm sorry we repeat stories here so kelly keep it up so i've heard i know i'm always scared of doing that on mine too i'm like i've already told this story i was like i don't know if we do we'll just edit it out you know what if they liked it this drag queen wendy brace told me once if the audience doesn't mind hearing it twice as long as they liked it the first time exactly it's kind of like a song if it's a good story you want to hear it again yeah you know you know i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry tell the story again kelly well so how do you tell the camera it's when rupaul comes around to our work tables and i was already a nervous wreck by this point and i had never drank a red bull in my life and i thought now would be a great time to have a red bull you thought it was booze honey i was trying to find anything to stimulate me into something if i could do drag race all over again i would have bought booze i would have brought brush cleaner and all kinds of things i would have snuck in alcohol yes what was i doing i was so goody goody what are they gonna do shoot me if they find like a bottle of fleischmann's i don't know you can sneak it in a mouthwash bottle that's what i'm why wouldn't i do that yes exactly why didn't you do that on the weekends at drag race oh you've been good here's your dixie cup of white wine to drink in your room now they get to smoke weed what i think so are you lying i know i hear all the girls you are lying i was so stunned when i did this they all just smoked weed all the time because jinx raja they were like whatever jinx wants well i guess for some of them it's it's truly base level approach it's like what's the difference we put them on a bunch of behavior modifying drugs honey what's the difference if you have a prescription for it they can't drag race on weed i'm that sounds like a nightmare i would have loved it are you kidding would have freaked the fuck out no unable to speak well it's your line you're a little light smoker though i like when she says i smoked the marijuana last night the marijuana and you had like two little puffs and you're like oh my gosh i'm so stuck well lately i've been taking a page out of your book i have a little bit of booze and a little bit of weed maybe an ambien i've never done go lay down in the yard i'm not a pill person that's good i don't like the pills honey i don't like but you're such a natural swallower well this is true i'm really good at swallowing but i don't like a pill i don't like the way it feels i don't like the way a pill feels according to the gospel according to kelly mantle do you think size matters with penises does i really thought you were gonna say absolutely not absolutely it does in what way well and let me say this it matters because some people like small ones that's true and so to them that matters yeah it can be too big and then there's girls like me where i'm like oh you can't get too big right you want a fire honey traffic i want to know what's going on right you know i want i thought you were going to say some kind of crazy progressive like absolutely not all dick is valid i thought you were gonna honey not for me it is for some people and that's good for you that's how i am with short kings i'm like that's not my kingdom honey happy for you right we all have our i will get down on my knees and give you a hug and then it's over honey what do you think that what do you think short men want ultimately i think they want to be seen yeah of course but i've noticed a lot of tall guys love short guys and it's like a vice versa really yes have you ever met like tall guys who are like i love short guys and it always makes me laugh because i'm like girl you're six four well now everyone's short what i love to see is i love to see a tall woman with a short man absolutely nicole kidman honey next to tom cruise or next to that lesbian she was married to yeah what's her name keith urban yes honey she's like towering above them honey do you know about daddy chancla on tiktok daddy who daddy chancla no he's just like um caucasian guy red hair uh-huh he has a black wife and she's taller than him and all their content is like really earnest like him making a making a basket for her for valentine's day or telling her what kind of date he's taking her on and it's like relationship goals uh-huh um everyone thinks it's so like i'm like let's normalize it i think it's great oh yeah absolutely did you see nicole love short guys love tall women yes let's do it all honey mix and match i love a i love a 6'4 bitch oh honey i love when i'm at the airport and i see like young girl college athletes giants i'm always like I love when the college teams fly in the matching hoodies and stuff Matching backpacks and everything They're like little army I love it Remember when we were in the airport there in Australia And the team That had just won the world cup Kelly was in heat Honey These rugby players were walking around with the cup I was just like Kelly was like On the floor at the airport Honey Kati was freaking out too The whole team I could take the whole team Did you see Nicole the other night at the Met Gala? Nicole who? Kidman Did you see any of that? How come there weren't any drag queens I don't watch any of that Fuck that shit The whole theme was supposed to be Turn art into fashion And you don't have any drag queens there Where was Utica? Where is God? Who is Utica? Utica You know what I'm saying Where's Utica? Uranus Utica get down here Utica is living on Uranus You know Utica would have eaten that up I think she would have She really Eaten up the carpet She would have worn the carpet and eaten it That whore knows how to make an outfit That's what I'm saying Why weren't any drag queens invited? I think Simone's done it And I know Violet's done it That's the only people I know who've done it I know why Cause that motherfucking Jeff Bezos Oh Has RuPaul done it? Yeah Ru did it one year Did you see what she wore? No Was it She was out of drag I assume Oh it was the camp year That's when Violet went Uh huh Cause Violet had that dress That looked like a glove Yes That was cool Violet We don't ever I don't ever Have concern About whether or not Violet's gonna present something That pleases me greatly What would you wear to the Met Gala? Stay home Girl I can't do anything like that I've only been invited to a few fashion things And I don't know if people Know that none of that is like Paid at all To go to fashion shows A lot of them pay to go That's what I'm saying It's like to fly to France or something To go watch a fashion show Could never be me Your TikTok outfit though When you hosted the TikTok awards That was so cool Oh I did love that Did Amy make that? Yeah So cool She pitched it She said It was so good She said TikTok is the new TV So how about we do like a TV look I was like that's a great idea Such a great idea The static gloves Yes I love that dress I hope I can use it for something else someday Yeah that was great That was really good Sometimes when you wear an outfit like that For an event It's kind of sad Because you're like This will never get used again I know Exactly You could wear it in like a music video And then have the two guys Maybe the TV heads That was cool too The TV heads behind you Those TV heads are just sitting at my house now I don't know what I'm going to do with them I'll wear them Where do you keep all your drag? Do you have a lot of drag? No right? I mean Not really I think of you know I mean My life is pretty much Just this So I don't really Look at it as drag Yeah If that makes sense Well like you have a tour coming up I have some evening gowns And I have all those things Right You know like in a drag You know area And drag closet and stuff But No I mean like I would wear this to the grocery store What are you going to wear on your new tour? Do you have like a special costume Made for a tour like that? What new tour am I going on? Don't you have a show coming up? You have a show in Phoenix coming up? I do Oh that's right We're starting to take the podcast out live Kelly You've gotten your pod to a level Where you're going to do live shows Yes John Mark told me about it Yes And you're sitting here Acting like it's not happening No Utica Utica is a show in Phoenix Kelly is going to be at home Utica We're going to take the Kelly Mantle show live So drop a comment On where you would like for us to come see Oh wait this isn't my podcast is it? I won't see the comments This is your podcast I'm just happy for the engagement Kelly If you guys want to go see Kelly live It's exactly this I don't know what to say It is Hey listen We did it for the first time In a Boise, Ohio And it was so amazing Boise is in Idaho Idaho Boise, Idaho And it's not just a podcast We open I open with a song Like we have music John Mark had choreography and dancers Oh wow We had People don't know John Mark used to dance Huh? People don't know John Mark was like a dance diva Such a good dancer Yeah I know Hot and Freddy Are you familiar with them? Oh they're incredible They're incredible They were our guests What? On the podcast at Treefort in Boise I love that song Shy Girl Yes Oh my god it's so good They're amazing All their songs are so good I love them Congrats on their wonderful success And Lady Gaga reposted them On her birthday I only know about that Because I saw TikTok on their page It was like You must If you're here from the Gaga video I was like Oh that's weird You know It's so good Great artist Scantily clad woman That's Kelly's theme song Scantily clad man I love Hot and Freddy honey You guys Go see Kelly I don't know what to say Other than it's exactly this Everybody wins There could be dancing There could be Hot and Freddy Anything could happen Honey we gotta stick together In these tumultuous times So let's get together And let's lift each other up In humor And if we feel like crying Let's cry If we feel like speaking to spirits Let's speak to spirits Let's just live our lives To the fullest And let's check out The Kelly Mantle Show Ain't nobody gonna stop us Now Exactly And please check out The Kelly Mantle Show Which Trixie and Katya Executive produce Oh my god We shoot them On these very cameras Yes we do Wow And see there's our curtains Right there Because this is behind The purple curtain Isn't that crazy Now you know I don't think people know I know Alright bye Kelly Bye I love you

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Kelly Mantel's podcast has become a chaotic, unscripted hub for drag queens to share raw, emotionally intense stories, often leading to tears and dramatic revelations.
  2. The show’s unique energy stems from its lack of structure—guests speak freely, unfiltered, creating a sense of authenticity and vulnerability that mirrors a "tell-all" environment.
  3. Kelly embraces chaos and unpredictability, attributing its appeal to the genuine emotional exposure and the freedom of storytelling without censorship or expectation.

Summary:

Kelly Mantel’s podcast has evolved into an unfiltered, high-energy space where drag queens share deeply personal, often dramatic stories with complete honesty. Unlike traditional talk shows, there’s no scripted dialogue or preparation—guests speak freely, leading to emotional outbursts, confessions, and unexpected revelations. This raw authenticity has made the show a cultural phenomenon, likened to Barbara Walters or Wendy Williams in drag circles.

Kelly doesn’t seek drama; instead, she welcomes it as a natural outcome of the space she creates. The chemistry and trust between guests allow for vulnerable storytelling, like the emotional depth of the Ginger Minge interview or the candid discussions about personal relationships and experiences. Behind the chaos, Kelly reflects on her own journey—from early drag beginnings to navigating fame and performance—highlighting her comfort in authenticity over polish.

The show also touches on broader themes: drag culture’s evolution, the power of storytelling, and how personal experiences (like being in a hospital or attending events) shape identity. Kelly’s personal anecdotes—such as her experiences with Uber drivers, smoking, poppers, and even a suspiciously large raven in her yard—add a grounded, humorous edge. The podcast also explores drag’s place in mainstream events, questioning the absence of drag queens at high-profile fashion events like the Met Gala.

Ultimately, Kelly’s show thrives on spontaneity, emotional honesty, and the unscripted connection between performers, making it a unique and vital voice in LGBTQ+ cultural discourse. The live format, introduced in Boise, Idaho, further amplifies this dynamic, blending music, dance, and audience interaction into a full sensory experience.

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Kelly Mantel's podcast is known for its raw, unfiltered, and often chaotic conversations where drag queens share personal truths and stories, creating a sense of intimacy and honesty that feels like a 'tell-all' moment without any prior prompting.

The energy of the show is chaotic and unpredictable, and Kelly doesn't actively fish for drama. This creates a safe space where queens feel they can speak openly, knowing they’re not being judged or controlled, and the conversation often spirals into emotional honesty.

Her bald look is a signature part of her identity and performance, symbolizing authenticity, simplicity, and rebellion against traditional beauty standards, which aligns with her playful, unapologetic, and comedic drag style.

Yes, she has a strong, para-social bond with fans, often sharing personal anecdotes and even referencing real-life events, making her feel like a relatable, down-to-earth, and grounded figure in the drag community.

She believes humor is essential to drag, using satire, exaggeration, and absurdity to break down social norms, and she sees the chaos of her show as a form of celebration rather than chaos for its own sake.

She embraces the idea that drag is inherently about performance and storytelling, so she doesn't demand truth or authenticity — instead, she values the entertainment value of lies, exaggerations, and playful storytelling as part of the drag experience.

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