131: Keep it Kosher with Raanan Hershberg | Soder Podcast | EP 129
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The comedian is actively touring to promote his upcoming special, scheduled for filming in June. Key performances include four shows at the Omaha Funny Bone with Brendan Sagalow, a Netflix "Joke" movie watch-along at the Avalon Theater in New Jersey, and surprise appearances in Key West. He emphasizes that stand-up is a "junkyard" of jokes—where successful lines are repurposed into new bits—creating a seemingly seamless but actually patchwork act. He values authentic, conversational humor over structured formats, calling his podcast a "playdate" where comedians share genuine thoughts and banter. He deeply respects Richard Pryor and Mel Brooks for transforming personal pain into joyful, heartfelt comedy. He also reflects on the nature of comedy as a personal journey, where humor emerges from self-awareness and lived experience. He notes that many comics lean toward intellectualism rather than authentic humor and shares insights on how trauma, shame, and cultural beliefs shape personal and comedic identity. The discussion includes reflections on Judaism, religion, and sexuality, where he highlights the lack of shame in Jewish traditions and the role of self-acceptance in personal growth. Ultimately, the conversation celebrates the raw, human element of comedy as a form of connection and self-expression.
Hey everybody, the Colden Retriever of Comedy Tour might be closed, but I'm still on the road.
I'm still a stand-up comedian.
We're taping the special in June.
I got a couple shows that I'm going to be running through to, you know, get it nice and there.
Nice and right where we want it.
So come check me out.
First, I'm going to be at the Omaha Funny Bone, May 15th and 16th.
Got four shows, bringing Brendan Sagalow.
That's going to be a blast.
May 6th, I'm going to be at the Avalon Theater for Netflix is a Joke.
We're doing a movie watch-along.
We're watching a very fun J-Lo movie.
It's already been approved.
My guest is a very cool guest.
It's Tim Dillon.
May 6th, Avalon Theater, DanceOrder.com.
May 15th and 16th, I'm going to be at the Funny Bone in Omaha, Nebraska.
Four shows to really finish tightening that hour before we film it in June.
I got Sagalow coming with me.
Four shows.
Omaha.
Omaha Funny Bone, May 15th and 16th.
And then New Jersey Performing Arts Center.
I'm going to be there June 5th.
Friday, June 5th.
It's the last time I'm running this hour before I tape it.
Go get tickets at DanceOrder.com.
I'm very excited about that.
Also, a little surprise shows in June.
June 1st and 2nd.
If you live in Key West, Florida, go buy tickets.
Because I'm coming down to Key West on Monday, Tuesday.
It's random.
But it'll be fun as hell.
DanceOrder.com.
I'm going to make sure those are up on DanceOrder.com, too.
Just go to DanceOrder.com.
See you at Netflix is a Joke.
I'll see you at Omaha.
And I'll see you in New Jersey.
I like junkyarding jokes.
Because when you junkyard a joke, you can take a line from a bit that worked,
but the bit didn't work, but the line worked.
And then you take it out and you put it in another joke that works,
and you go like, whoa, it's like a spark plug.
It's all a junkyard.
Every hour is just like a couple survivors of a platoon strung together.
You know what's funny?
With the illusion that this is what you always intended it to be,
even though there's so much things that didn't work.
You have no idea how patched together this is.
That's the illusion, right?
It's like it doesn't look patched.
Well, the illusion is I'm just talking.
We're just having a conversation.
I was saying that about Ali Sadiq.
That's like one of my favorite things about him.
He's like a guy where you go, those jokes look.
He's got that black hypnotism.
Yeah, it's just, you know what it is?
It's just like, I've seen white dudes that have it too.
White dudes, Giannis has that.
Giannis can like, he's doing bits, but you're like.
Are we on, by the way?
Yeah, we've been on.
We've been on?
Okay.
All right, no, cool.
I just, I forget the, yeah, the old merits like recording, you know?
I feel like they're not doing that as much anymore.
We're just rolling?
Yeah.
Here's the deal.
I don't.
I don't have a premise for my podcast.
And I also, why I like doing this show is because I get to hang out with comics that I like.
That's how I.
And then I just hope that people that like me like them.
Yeah.
That's all this is.
It's just a way to see people.
That's all this is.
Yeah, it really is.
It is like a play date.
I love doing.
Podcasts are.
Yeah.
It's a podcast play date.
I love doing podcasts where they try to explain to you the premise, but it's just every podcast.
But they try to set it up like, so with this, you can just, we'll just talk and you can
just take it wherever you want.
Just, just, you know, it's just a conversation.
Just go wherever.
And you go, that's a podcast.
That's a podcast.
That's not a theme.
Oh, we just want to make it like a hang.
And just like, if there's a joke and you want to like commit to that joke, just do that.
And if you want to riff.
That was like morning radio.
Bob and Tom used to do that where they'd go bring in five of your bits and we'll lead
you into it.
And you go, I'm just funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We can just be funny.
You know, we can just hang out and I'll be funny.
But there are some funny comics who aren't funny.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I would.
I would say it is.
It's like 70, 30, 70, like funny.
70% of comics are actually funny.
And 30% of them are like mathematicians.
Mathematical.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they just were like autism.
Yeah.
And they're like very serious.
But I mean, you can be a great comedian.
I started interviewing with Woody Allen where he's like, people meet me and, and, and they
think I'm funny, but I'm actually miserable.
You know, what's funny, man, is like, um, I've seen Woody Allen.
I've seen Woody Allen movies.
I understand.
People think he's a genius.
I don't get, I've never, I've never been a big fan and I don't, uh, okay to say now.
Well, no, that's what I would have shamed you, but I can't do that anymore.
Back in the day, I'd be like, you don't know comedy.
I'll tell you what, it's, it's like, um, I, I, I feel like a drunk that got through a
car accident.
I went, I'm okay.
I'm okay.
Back in the day, I would have been like, you don't know comedy.
You're anti-sexual.
You're anti-Semitic.
You don't need my argument.
And now I gotta be like, me neither.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You go, what a monster.
But my thing is, is it just missed me.
Yeah, yeah.
Like Zeppelin.
Yeah.
Zeppelin missed me.
Yeah, yeah.
I got into my thirties.
I listened to the, or my late twenties, my early thirties, I listened to Zeppelin and
I was like, oh, it's really good.
Like Woody Allen.
I listened to his standup.
Very funny.
Standup's very funny.
Yeah.
I'm a Mel Brooks guy.
I grew up with Mel Brooks.
Yeah, yeah.
My sense of humor is based on Mel Brooks is like that, when I just watched the Judd
Apatow documentary about him, I was like, it was, I was like hooting and hollering at
the TV because it got me so excited.
The thing about Mel Brooks, I love Mel Brooks too.
And there's a great interview with Mel Brooks where they ask him if he's friends with Woody
Allen and he goes, no, nobody's friends with that guy.
See, that's what I mean.
Like the fact that everything I watch about Mel Brooks, I go, I feel like, I feel, there's
a part of me that goes, oh, I'm disingenuous.
I, I, I, a lot of my personality is just Mel Brooks.
Well, he is also just.
I, in my heart, I relate more to Woody Allen as a, like, he actually, I'm actually got
into comedy because of Woody Allen.
Okay.
And I got into comedy because of Mel Brooks.
Right.
But Mel Brooks is also someone like, I would so much rather be that person.
Sure.
He's such a better person.
I always liked his comedy because there was, and they say this in the documentary and finally
like they put words to it.
It's based on love.
Yes.
And it's like, there's a lot of.
It's just very loving.
Yeah.
It's like, he talks shit about people and he makes fun of people, but you know, he's
like, oh, the base level is like, I really always enjoyed the warmth of Mel Brooks.
Oh yeah.
And there's joy and fun.
And, and, and also, uh, when I read Richard Pryor's autobiography and he talked about
writing that.
And how he wrote for, uh, what's it called?
The big, the big.
Blazing Saddles.
But he wrote specifically on Blazing Saddles for, uh, that he loved writing for the.
Manga.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Manga.
He's the one who wrote, uh, yeah.
Manga's part of the, he wrote that line.
Game of life.
Yeah.
You think he's writing like the, the line.
All the N words.
And it's like, no.
But that was.
That was, uh, you know, that was Mel Brooks.
In the documentary.
Yeah.
In the documentary.
Uh, they even, they, Mel said that.
He goes, Richard was very enamored with Mongo.
I think he connected the sadness.
Cause Richard Pryor, there's such a sadness with him.
You know?
I mean, you read that biography and you're like, this guy had the worst childhood I've
ever heard in my life.
His, his first memory of making people laugh is slipping in shit in his front yard.
And he just did it again.
Cause they laughed.
Yeah.
Oh, it's so.
So you go, oh, there's the hard wiring.
There is.
Well, it's in his act too.
I mean.
He walked in on his mom blowing a local politician.
His mom was a whore.
His grandma ran a whorehouse.
Yeah.
I know that.
Yeah.
And his dad was like, you know, uh, like fucked her and like, but it wasn't like.
He should have been like, well, you lost my vote, sir.
Yeah.
I won't vote for you, sir.
No, but Pryor was like the, uh, absolute to me, example of the alchemy of like turning
absolute shit into funny stuff.
Oh yeah.
Cause he was just so funny.
He was the best comedian of all time.
In my opinion.
I, the only reason I would put him on the list.
I think the reason I would put Chappelle about above them is because Chappelle has
had more hours of proof.
I think Richard Pryor show and Chappelle show or even, I think, um, live in concert
1978 and killing him softly or even.
Now I think live in concert to me is bad.
I mean, obviously killing him softly is great.
I don't know, man.
Killing him softly starts and doesn't stop.
It's true.
They're both like two.
They're both like top five.
Live in, live in concert has moments where he dials it in and you go, this is the greatest
thing.
The story of his dad having.
The heart attack and fucking at the same time is like one of my favorite bits.
It's also like, um, can I really quickly douchily promote my special?
Sorry.
Yeah.
I mean, we're going to put the link in here.
Okay.
All right.
Well, nevermind.
I feel like an asshole.
No, if you go watch Ron on special, it's morbidly Jewish, Jewish.
If you can't tell he's Jewish, he's Jewish.
He's morbidly Jewish.
Sorry.
But no, dude, the whole, yeah.
The link.
Okay.
Good.
I never, but yeah, I just, I get it.
Yeah.
I don't do it.
I go on like, you know, some radio show to promote my special and then I'm just talking
about dildos.
You fucking, and I'm like, I never brought it up.
There's no need.
Yeah.
Well, absolutely.
And I'll, I'll do it at the end too.
I'll really make sure if they stay to the end, I'm really going to promo the fuck out
of your special.
But, uh, um, yeah, I mean, live in concert, when you watch it, you're like, I don't even
know this.
It like transcends standup.
It's like a one man show in a way.
It's like some of it's just like pure physicality.
It's wild.
It comes out with the light still on surprises everyone, which everyone thought Louie did
first.
Yeah.
But you're like, no, that's a Richard Pryor movie.
Number two, everyone thought Louie did first.
That should be the name of like writing an hour once a year.
George Carlin never did that.
Did Carlin do it once a year?
I'm pretty sure.
Cause I know that's a, that's some British shit.
That's like Edinburgh.
They do it once a year and have a fucking theme.
Yeah.
And they have it all connect, which is crazy.
Yeah.
Maybe work on it two years.
Yeah.
It's always my advice.
Bill Burr formula.
Yeah.
But Burr, Burr had a great quote where he said it should be.
at least two to three years.
is because you're a different person you like grow enough in three years that you're a different
person it's true but uh i guess i i've been doing once a year but really i got nothing else going on
like well that's not true because you write shit and you do a lot of other stuff but
what you do once a year you have an hour a little one a year and change i'm the first person to do
that by the way ron did it first oh yeah carlin did 10 i know he did 10 hbo's but well he did 14
oh some of these must be album oh these are hbo specials he did 14 hbo yeah i think it was once a
year i think maybe yeah yeah the the life is worth losing one is the the second to last one that was
the one the ones where he starts rhyming you're like maybe it's time to retire yeah the one when
he comes out of doctor's suits did you watch that documentary about him i did it um i'm gonna tell
you right now all you need to watch as a comedian is the last 15 minutes of
episode
of the first episode really there's two episodes and the whole first episode is about his early
life growing up in harlem him being in the armed services him kind of finding his way
he starts doing comedy he's silly and then it goes through his first big push of hippy dippy
weatherman yeah yeah and all the fucking things and then it gets to the 70s and it ends with
everyone shitting on him for rhyming and they're like they show sec tv make fun of him really where
he's like he's like i've
heard of green beans why can't they be red beans oh but that's that's like yeah yeah yeah never see
blue and blue but why is blueberries blue yeah yeah blue and it's rick moranis doing a really
funny impression of bearded no i don't want eggs and ham no i don't want it's exactly it and then
it shows uh it's cheech and chong are talking about it and she has a quote where he goes man
fuck george carlin no one gives a fuck about him and they start i'll give credit to apatow on this
the way he directed it is great because it starts doing that thing where it shows a
criticism shows another one and then starts doing that thing where it goes fast where it's like
yeah you see all the criticisms and then it cuts to george carlin's notebook and he's like i'm gonna
prove all of them wrong like i'm gonna show them what's up and it's like a ramp up yeah it shows
bill burr and he's like interviewing bill bird he's like yeah me and my friends went to go see
him at the 80s and we thought we were gonna go watch a washed up dude we're like going to make
fun of him and he's like and then he comes out and he's a fucking howitzer just like
and it's like dude that part like the anger from getting attacked yeah it made him too angry to
rhyme anymore yeah he was like i don't care the words connect but i watched that in a hotel room
and i was ready to run through a wall that's i watched it like after a thursday night show at a
club and i was like it's fucking incredible people always like people become legends and
then you think their whole career was like just on the up and it's just not true there's so many
moments where people are like he's done yeah so many moments where people are like steven spielberg
but it's done yeah or like whatever you know the spielberg thing uh when he did schindler's list
everyone's like what the fuck are you doing you make feel good movies yeah exactly he's like well
i'm a jew and i want to make a movie about the holocaust they're like all right fine but they
were also like i don't think people are gonna like it yeah it's like one of the greatest movies of
all time and if it's just like an incredible movie and that there is there's like a lot of
everything every writer hemingway like was a drug washed out at times it's like it's like but then
when you look back you're like oh they were a legend the whole time
you know well that was my thing with uh you know kind of a hacky thing but i really liked
hunter s thompson when i got to college and i liked his writing why is that hacky because it
was hacky because the other people that liked hunter s thompson liked him because he was a drug
addict oh no no they like his drug addict kept him from being a that's what sucks and like doug
douglas brinkley he used to run his like yeah he like uh uh i think it's like the executive
of his literal literary estate or something i used to
uh i used to be super into hunter s thompson's writing it's great from my hometown yeah louisville
kentucky i think cash is clay yep i think fear and loathing las vegas is like one of the top
five funniest books of all time and he has a lot of other great i would say his best book is fear
and loathing on the campaign trail in 1972 where he has an acid flashback during he's like writing
about he's like on the plane doing journalism for the president he's like oh shit i'm what am i
i think that's the best book about uh modern american politics i did love that book it's
fucking phenomenal
and if you read it around an election cycle it holds up in a very uh spooky way yeah no he says
basically like if you want to get elected in this country you got to bash the other guy and be
unapologetic and be unethical and he's like because there was the other guy who got they
was like actually a really good politician but they found out he had mental uh he it was
mcgovern's first pick for vice president yeah he was i think the governor of south dakota and it
had been proven that he had been institutionalized and that electric shock therapy and it ruined it
and he was like legitimately good like a legitimately good yeah he had like he had the he
was aligned with mcgovern on a lot of his policies and they were running it but the thing about hunter
s thompson is is he starts doing cocaine in the 80s yeah and his writing goes to shit i know the
drug thing it's the opposite of what people think yeah they heard him he was fucked up on drugs and
you're like no man this is a guy that when he was a kid would read on his typewriter type out
hemingway yeah to hear the rhythm of the keys and you're like that's a guy i fucking i've always
loved like there's just something about his sentences when i read them i just get excited
there's just something so cool yeah the way he writes i don't know it's hard to explain but i
would say for anybody that hasn't read that if you don't want to read fear and loathing las vegas or
on the campaign trail hell's angels is great but i would say look up the book generation of swine
because it's he's on cocaine in some of it but it's he still got his fastball yeah so he's like
writing a lot of stuff he writes about reagan a lot in it yeah and you're like oh this guy i think
i've read that one it's great it's right there it's right behind you it's the yellow backed one
i i don't know why but i just love the way he uses the uh amber sand you know he smashes an
ampersand he really just he fucking loves it i just love it every time he has it i'm like it's
so cool but i also feel like andy is for fucking squares yeah yeah he's like why would i use a
fucking like a bitch well his thing was always he said f scott fitzgerald wrote the book generation of swine
perfect book and the great gatsby yeah because it's so concise and it's so short yeah so he was
like struggling to get fear and loathing in las vegas down to the shortest he could because he
wanted it to be as concise as the great gatsby wow yeah no i mean it's it's a fucking amazing book
and it's so funny but then when hunter s thompson's talks about they're like you know he had a
suitcase full of drugs and it's like yeah yeah you should also look into more how fascinating
the character the person oscar acosta was oh the lawyer who's the lawyer yeah he was a chicano
from la that was like in these streets yeah like he was in these streets like the street gangs the
the latin street gangs were like down with him he was a lawyer he'd get these guys out of jail and
shit i just remember yeah he was scary he was amazing yeah he's like a big he called him the
big brown buffalo yeah he's like fucking scary dude i just remember this one line that i've
always loved in it where they go to like a drug conference it's like some kind of police and he's
like that was that was fair that was in las vegas yeah and he's like we felt like uh we have the
voice in this meeting or something i forget the line but it was so it's such a great yeah that was
this because the first part of fear and loathing in las vegas was him going to cover the mint
motorcycle race like the 400 for sports illustrator right they hired him and then it just became a
disaster yeah yeah because he went to vegas to do a bunch of drugs and then when he sent it into
yon winter at rolling stone yon winter was like this is unbelievable yeah and he would just like
fax him he would just fax him it feels like notes like it's concise but it feels like you're reading
so real yeah and it's it is it is one of the funniest books of all time because it is both
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misconstrued to younger generations he's not being an asshole to be an asshole no he's being himself
and almost wedging himself into places and going this is just who i am yeah so i'm gonna do weird
shit to you but he wasn't going out of his way to like attack people no he was just fucking with
them if they came into his proxy if he just came around them and he i mean he's making fun of
himself he said yeah he's just fucking with them if they came into his proxy if he just came around
him and he i mean he's making fun of himself he said yeah he's just fucking with them if they came into
his proxy if he just came around them and he's making fun of himself he said yeah he's just fucking with them if they came around
him quite a bit well he's like i'm an idiot you know i ate all my cantaloupe yeah grapefruit yeah
and if i mean if you go read his first gonzo i mean hell's angels could be argued as his first gonzo
well the thing about the kentucky derby that's the first thing at the kentucky yeah which was
where he discovered his style well and the first time he worked with ralph stedman yeah yeah ralph
stedman came out and he's so amazing just a british guy that's like what in the fuck is this
and he's like talking about and you know because you're from louisville he's like oh everyone thinks
the kentucky derby is this high society thing and he's like animals that's what he wanted to show
and the way that ralph drew it forget if it was for harper's bazaar i forget which magazine it
was for that he wrote that but you see the original illustrations and he nails it he nails
what i like about ralph stedman is he nails the the monstrosity of very wealthy people yes he
really nails the like oh he's incredible he reminds me like you see like weimar art like german art
where it's so grotesque yes and just like all the decadence in people's faces yeah he's just he's
what ralph stedman yeah he's one of my all-time favorites and if you watch that documentary
and hearing him talk about like meeting hunter and like yeah because hunter s thompson just wanted to
shoot guns he's a big gun guy yeah and they brought it up there's a new york times article
that just came out about was his suicide like you know i read the article i got sent because
my friends know i'm really into hunter s thompson and my friend vick and my friend jason sent it to
me and they were like oh my god i'm gonna kill you i'm gonna kill you i'm gonna kill you i'm gonna
they were like have you read this and i read it and i stopped midway through because i was like
you can't trust any piece of media now well what was it saying i don't know he's basically saying
that his wife his second wife anita didn't really trust that it was suicide but his son was going
like my dad himself of course and also he loves hemingway and also agreed it's really rip it off
he also talked about it it's an homage to hemingway he talked about it a lot the reason i
the reason i put down the article and was not interested in it it was because of his suicide
letter that was the most hunter s thompson thing of course this is gonna hurt or something it's
called football season is over yeah yeah yeah and no more no more uh no more pain yeah because he
said that that was the most that was when after the super bowl was when he was always the most
depressed yeah because he didn't have football because he loved football and what i loved about
hunter s thompson was he was a 49ers fan yeah because of his time in san francisco oh and then
he liked the denver
broncos because of his time in aspen at woody creek nice and he was a gambler but in a real way
yeah he wasn't an app gambler yeah he was a i'm gonna put money down i need the rush yeah i need
the fucking i need skin on the game that kind of shit which i respect he definitely himself yeah
because it's like it's like but i started reading it and they were like talking about his ex-wife
trying to get this weed strain approved and like how she still lives in woody creek and she'll rent
it out to airbnb and i was kind of like what is that what is that what is that what is that what is
what is it trying to be like a what do you mean like a weed conspiracy no they're trying i it just
sounded like she was trying to drum up business oh yeah sell stuff on it with his name on it yeah
which is like when his son is like dude my dad killed himself why do they they always have
side conspiracies about people where it makes a hundred percent like kurt cobain yes they're like
maybe it wasn't that's like every song's like a side he's like i'm gonna kill myself i'm gonna do
it with the shotgun oh man i think it was i think it was like i think it was like i think it was like
i think it was uh courtney or whatever love the only time conspiracies i think are right and this
is because of big j on the bonfire he thinks the yourself on a doorknob is auto erotic
asphyxiation and they fucking fuck up you think that's what he was doing in prison no i think he
was murdered by the government i think he could go either way on that which is the most the most
i've gone to a conspiracy theory because i'm very against him you think he might have been
i still joking it no no i think he could have committed i'll tell you right now he definitely
wasn't happy in that situation no he also had a lot of information he did have a lot of information
that's the point where you go it really can go both ways i see i could see him getting murdered
though i don't believe i just don't believe anyone has the competence to do it and get away with it
i certainly don't believe trump yeah can do it and not like talk about it in a tweet oh he would
murder epstein today he would bring it up in a way where
for as a brag what i just put on true social i didn't go out leaning against the frame of
air force one and you go well i killed you for epstein you didn't care about that you can't say
that he uh epstein would to me it would make sense that he himself because of the loss of power
because a guy yeah that guy like that that's all of his shit is like control i would tell myself if
i was in his situation then like i don't know man because i like the idea of just blowing people's
shit up
i'm just being like i'm gonna rock your shoe but if you're like a narcissist and the whole world
hates you and you're about to have like judgment yeah like suicide is definitely an option in that
you know 100 i mean that's the thing i just think like i feel like but murder it could possibly be
i still think even that i still think like it's probably suicide i guess i just think incompetence
really destroys most conspiracy theories yeah you know and so it's just 9-11 being an inside
job there's no way that it would have not leaked you can't complete a full sentence but you can
complete uh 9-11 the only way i can see it being the only reason i can see conspiracy theories
working is if they um like don't tell bush if it's like one of those things like what they've been
doing with like alien technology yeah yeah where they go implausible deniability people don't even
know yeah like how like the government has parts of the government that the government doesn't even
know about but you know it goes like we control all the technology that foreign alien you know
yeah because trump would bring it up i guess yes maybe they
hit it so would a clinton yeah so they're all narcissists yeah yeah to be a president you have
to fucking love yourself but my issue with conspiracy theories is that eventually you try
to get there and you can't make it sense all the way so you throw in jews at the end to finish it
off you know well it's like the glue that holds together conspiracy theories yeah you guys are um
you guys really are like the slapstick yeah for you know like yeah where the uh the cement or
you know he puts it on he goes stop fleek you just choose
yeah it's like yeah it holds it all together because you're like well what about this is
it we're like well that doesn't make sense to jews you're like ah i see in a world where i'm
undereducated and uh not into comedy or i believe that a lot more for sure because it always blew
my mind when i was younger that i didn't see a lot of jewish families with drinking problems
that was one of the first conspiracy theory that i noticed just we get tired when we drink
you guys did this thing it's all my parents all my mom's friends that were jewish would do this
thing where they would have two drinks and go well that's that's enough it's very accurate and
all the other goys that we knew were just fucking i know i think that's where anti-semitism started
you see jews have self-control and you're like that's what i mean that's what i mean and the
self-control with money you have self-control explain the banks yeah don't explain the fucking
thing with the guy you're not you think you're better than me because you don't get drunk and
lose all your money fuck you you jews yeah you guys took down the towers there's truth to that
there is a sense of uh responsibility like yeah if you think about it with money you go well i'm
gonna save a little yeah yeah and you go why are you saving it blow it off the goy is just like
throwing the money away yeah there's a thing that i that i talked to louis katz about that we laughed
about is i always said my friends that were jewish were always very horny oh yeah and i said why are
you so horny and louis louis katz is one of my favorite human beings on earth yeah yeah because
number one he's a hilarious comic yeah great human being but he has this thing where he isn't a yes
man yeah if you say something to him and he doesn't agree with it he goes he pushes back he
goes yeah i don't think that's true you mean honest yes yes he's honest i've been talking
shit about people we've been having dinner and i've been talking shit about people and he goes
i don't think that's true and it'll stop me and go like yeah maybe i'm fucking i have personal
feelings i don't want to toot my own horn but i feel like i kind of am similar and have people
not like me because of that
even if someone says a movie they like like that i don't like that's even that'll bring
that's where i tell you i go all right but i choose i choose honesty
conspiracy theory on this i choose honesty over people liking me i admire that i admire that in a
way that uh as a people pleaser i admire that quality as much as i do people that go to the
gym consistently yeah i don't know how the fuck you do that yeah i i did it for a little bit and
it's very hard yeah it's very hard but i asked him i was like why are all my jewish friends horny
and he goes because we don't have shame attached to sex like you guys do and i was like very true
when he said that very true it we're at the sacramental punch line yeah and it was like a
light bulb went off in my head and i was like that makes so much because with with uh original
sin and christianity you're guilty with your thoughts yes and judaism you're not guilty with
your thoughts and judaism it's actually about the deeds sure and to the point where you don't even
have to have faith you just do the deeds and the faith can come later yeah so we don't have this
like uh we don't have the shame yeah i don't have it i really don't it really
is insane to me because i i've always had i've had every nut in my life has had shayna
really in some way now are you catholic no but my mom was okay yeah i was raised episcopalian
which is english catholic yeah yeah which if you don't know was only created so that the king of
england could get divorced yeah yeah that's truly funny the only reason why he did it was like
yeah i gotta get rid of this bitch just a religion over getting rid of a bitch
and i've always my friends that are religious i i know a lot of catholics i have very good
friends that are catholic i respect their faith if you're catholic i totally agree with it i don't
believe in organized religion yeah at all it doesn't make sense to me organized religion yeah
it just feels like a store you're going to buy it's like going to a store instead of farming
well yeah it's like you're telling me if i i can only buy lettuce from fairway yeah and that's the
the true lettuce it's kind of like religion's kind of like a bunch of people who are going to
schizophrenics having an agreed upon delusion yes like what most schizophrenics are just alone
yeah and they just have their vision it's like schizophrenics working together it's it's unity
and schizophrenia yeah and then they go this is right and you're like but that was written by a
man yeah yeah and then they got because that was the questions i had my mom was excommunicated from
the church because she got divorced oh wow which is the whole point of the thing was for the divorce
well this was she was catholic oh catholic she was irish catholic actually then that makes sense
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i was watching a movie and someone texted me that robin williams died in the middle of the movie i
mean they didn't know i was watching it but i'm like damn i really shouldn't have looked at my
phone i was going to coney island to ride the roller coaster when i found out really my friend
joey owens texted me and he was like robin williams killed himself and i was like what's up
i was about to get on a roller coaster do you know how weird that is to be sad on a roller coaster
when they're like watch your arms and legs and i go even at the end robin williams stealing from
richard jenny oh what's up with a gun though that fucking what a way he went out don't fat check my
joke richard uh what's his name um richie redding yeah he's marrying a jew i was on stage i'm like
the jew on the show last night he goes up before me he pulls a full tim whatley he talks about
he's marrying a jew all jew jokes the whole time this is what we were talking about yesterday all
jew jokes the tim whatley thing the holocaust jokes he literally and they're good they were
good too he's like my wife the other day she was like yeah we have a jew in the oven i'm like you're
not supposed to say that because she's pregnant yeah i fucked up that joke but she's pregnant
whatever i really fucked that's so funny can you edit that so i can watch mike's editing skills
he's doing jewish jokes holocaust jokes and i'm like the jew on the show you go that's my stuff
i'm like what the fuck uh we were talking about tim whatley
does it offend you as a jewish person no it offends me his opening thing and it was very
funny he's very funny he's been on the podcast i love rich i am joking but like uh open for
cat williams oh did he like not a little i guess now he can do black jokes when he opens for cat
williams you see him once he's like i'm telling these motherfuckers these jews are out here he's
doing cat doing jewish material his opening joke i can't believe i'm jewish
his opening joke was like uh he was like uh yeah we're raising the kid jewish because i do not have
the energy to argue with a pregnant jewish woman that's great if there's anyone you don't want to
argue with it's a pregnant jewish woman i'm like what the fuck that's a good joke it's a good joke
yeah he's fucking and then i had to go up i'm like frankly i'm married to a catholic so i could
just do catholic jokes because that's now how it fucking works now but uh is your wife catholic
oh she was raised catholic yeah do you see the uh it's weird about catholics is because they
they they
even if they're not catholic anymore they still it's in there yeah it's in there until the day
they die my mom is still like easter is fucking huge yeah yeah well hell is not something you
really uh you know it's you learn that at a young age it's hard to this is the same thing about the
sexual shame jews don't have hell we don't have hell yeah i mean it really is like you go what
if you were to put monotheistic religions out there as far as the one i'd go talk to me about
hell yeah yeah
hell is you can't mix your dairy and your meat well now we're fucked up hey i'd choose uh i'd
choose not believing in hell over at cheeseburger well i didn't know what i didn't know what kosher
was and my first job ever was at my friend adam's parents owned a kosher bakery oh denver and i was
13 and they're like yeah you can work here you just work in the back with like the dough and
stuff and bring it in and then i got a lunch break and it was my first lunch break at my first job
ever and i walked in and i was like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god
and i walked across the parking lot to burger king and got a double whopper with cheese and i
was about to walk in and one of the guys that worked there went what's in that bag
a double whopper with cheese he went this is a fucking kosher i was outside i was like about in
the back yeah i walked in and he goes you can't bring that in here he goes do you bring that in
here we got to get a rabbi with a flame floor seriously a flamethrower to fucking bless all
the ovens and i was like that can i just want to see that i almost brought the cheeseburger in to
be like sold dude go get your boy i want to fucking tell him to fire up the flamethrower you know why
you can't have a mixed milk and uh meat why honestly it's because it's perverse and which
kind of makes sense cooking an animal in the milk in its mother's milk that's what it says in the
it's fucked up that we do that it's crazy you're killing a cow yeah and then eating it with the
milk of that cow's mother that is wild that is wild that it was a jewish person that went
a little fucked up i don't know you guys think this is a little fucked up and they go
yeah it really is that really is what it's about they're like it's like you shouldn't don't cook
meat and it's mother's milk like they're just kind of like it's kind of kind of perverse i took a
theology class in like my freshman year of college or whatever and they were talking about how a lot
of these beliefs in religion were because they were like people were getting sick yeah they had
to write like uh muslims you know that was the last monotheistic religion to be made yeah yeah
and they were like um the pork thing was probably because people were
sick eating pork yeah yeah so they're like no pork yeah yeah no alcohol yeah it was like making
people have a problem it was all just yeah it was just yeah i guess health issues yeah it was like
the covid vaccine exactly they're like we're just putting this in and they're like no pork and then
it just held for and then suddenly christianity came about well i think it goes judaism christianity
muslims oh muslims that yeah because they're funny because it feels first does it well muslims
the thing that they don't get credit for is they acknowledge other messiahs yeah jesus and moses
prophets both prophets in the muslim religion where you go oh shit it's kind of funny you're
like they really collide they really bring everyone together they were trying to hit until
they don't until they go everyone must die on the surface very uh it is weird because you go
well why are you guys trying to kill all the infidels if you're also acknowledging the infidels
main guys yeah you know it's uh that's what i was what's interesting to me is like um
i respect people that are religious because i go well you have
you can commit yeah it's a commitment in a way that's what i'm saying like my friends that are
catholic i know they go to a church on wednesday and sunday and i'm like it's just like it's just
i mean the reason i don't i want to i'm just boring it's all it was always just so boring
i used to have to go with my mom and it was i'm i'm basically choosing oh i'd rather not have
meaning in my life to just not be bored were your parents did they drive did they want you to be
like yeah i kept kosher till college really yeah what was the first non-kosher what did you
break with i've talked about this before but it's uh it's uh so i had chicken which is just
is unkosher if it's not
prepared right you know because meat with kosher has to be cut with a knife it's this knife that's
really sharp so the animal's supposed to die painlessly even though damn you guys really do
think about the animals we do but it doesn't but the problem this is kind of the problem with
religion is that now that is not the most humane way to kill an animal sure now it's like some
machine that just crushes their head right but but we still are doing what was humane like
flip it if i worked at a slaughterhouse that's all i would do it's so funny just to dress like
that it's so funny if in no country like when he does that scene the guy's like are you just
doing two-face for bad man he goes oh brother i read the i read the pulp comics this is just
two-face it just feels like court mccarthy just didn't know about two-face yeah it's so like when
a comic's doing a bit that he doesn't know another comic has to bit of because do you know that guy
does that bit he goes son of a car she's like
you
got a new villain he gives riddles out
his 16 year old lover goes you don't read batman do you son or bed chopping her gun i love the
character from no country but that is very much a two-face thing flip it and he's like
uh you don't read big batman fan that's all that guy had to say no but yeah
you're a big batman fan son um but so uh yeah so she did knife was humane but now it's not
you know damn you really throw some on that you really get in there
you
so i i had chicken and it was a big deal it was college it was i had a piece of chicken or a couple
pieces whatever and i woke up the next day with a cold sore for real yeah and i i was like you know
i assumed it was guilt i assume god what was it i think it was psychological guilt that led to a
cold sore so when you ate the chicken you also fucked a girl's herpes also it's a pussy on a
on a loose woman yeah but so when you ate it were you like i felt bad you're like i'm gonna die i'm
here i go yeah like i'm not shameful about sex but i was shameful about eating chicken you know
that's crazy honestly i would take that trade i would take that shameless nuts versus going like
you get a cheeseburger but you get hell and and being ashamed every time every every time i squeeze
a nut out i go who am i i don't feel guilty about masturbation at all which is interesting i used to
feel a lot of i used to feel a lot of guilt about people tell me they do and i have friends who have
actually have done the no fappening or whatever it's called uh and i'm just like by the way those
those boys are just trying to edge as much as possible that's just straight up gooning yeah
yeah you're not you're not fucking above anybody well you know what it is what's like master like
because i've you know i have friends who are like yeah you like who think they're sex addicts but
then they're also like you're probably a sex addict too you don't realize it not that i do anything
but just just i don't know just thinking about it just enjoying sex but in my head i'm just like
masturbation even if it is an addiction
it's a healthy addiction i think it's well i don't know i mean physically it's not bad for you
i think it is the equivalent of de-venoming a snake when they take that when you see it where
they put the glass and the venom comes out you're just de-venoming yourself you don't have to shoot
up a school yeah or you're not harassing a comedy club waitress yeah exactly you just are like when
you have empty nuts right louie never jerked off and that's why this happened yes and that's why
you should have been doing it
then you get a cane and you're like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry
i'm in way more even-headed but there is something to be said about like doing it and being that's
why like i think a lot of comics are surprised when they find out that every comic gets to their
hotel room and jerks off yeah yeah yeah because you're just de-venoming yourself you got it for
the city well you know i'm a visitor here i should probably take the venom out of me jack it off is
like after you jack off you're kind of like oh i'm not stressed about things anymore you also go who
is that guy yeah i'm always like what the was i going i know there is yeah i don't feel shame but
i do feel that like i don't know what to do i don't know what to do i don't know what to do i
yeah louis talks about like you're back to reality and you're like it's like kind of like
coming to at a car scene a car traffic accident yeah it is how i used to feel when i would um
get drunk yeah and then i'd wake up and i'd go like who was that yeah that wasn't me and then
that's how you get when you're like super horny right fuck it then you and then you
masturbate and you go but you know i have like a pretty strong libido because i'm a jew but uh
got that heebly i got that heebly bead so like i think jack and
off is bad if you if you then are having sex with your partner later and you can't fuck yeah that's
that's what's the fuel that's the fuel you're wasting your seed but i can usually still fuck
that's crazy so it's like it's not an issue to me in fact i have enough libido i think where i can
be a sex addict and fuck my wife consistently yeah that that would be to me to the point where i'd go
this might be too much yeah yeah because i think in my early 20s i was like that my
my 20s and then as i hit my late my late 20s i
started being like it was also coincided with me quitting drinking because when i quit drinking i
got like super horny yeah and then it it dissipated like within a year it started being like back to
normal i mean it's not as strong as it used to be but i'm still i always like i think i would
have had a higher libido if i wasn't so shamed about it yeah yeah probably i think i would have
felt more inclined to be like this is a good it would have made me go into it instead of going
like well i like my problem right is this a problem my i think most guys either if they have sexual
problems they lean towards either like coming early or not being able to get it up sure i always
lean towards coming early which i always felt was like a sign of a libido oh really no turned on
i always took it as a sign of tenderness that you're like i'm so tender i'm so tender
please kind of you know it's gentle yeah just such a tender boy but i always think it's
interesting where you're like watching how people what people are sensitive towards or what people
have shame for yeah and then to see how they grow and how they grow and how they grow and how they
grow up and you go that's the interesting part and yes this episode's brought to you by better
help but that's to me the interesting part of therapy is like following the cord to something
and going like like i remember uh asking my therapist i was like hey is it possible that
i was molested and i blocked it out and that's the reason i have like a weird time being intimate
and my therapist was like no you just completely
lack intimacy he's like you just need to work on you allowing intimacy in yeah and you go
that's such a less sexy answer than going i think you got sucked off by your uncle when you were four
that's what i was hoping because that's such an easy fix well i think the blocking out thing is
pretty rare i think usually when you get fucked you remember it when you get but i do think there
are people that block it out because i do think there is a trauma response that goes on my body
it's it's the same thing we were talking about with the government about how they just wall off
those conspiracy theories and i think that's the thing that's the thing that's the thing that's
the government walls off the rest of the government for finding out about it right i think your brain
can do that it can people can also have false memories sure oh absolutely i think that's that's
a very like those 60 women bill cosby allegedly all false memories you would never do that go
watch the dentist bit on himself and tell me that man's a real well that's funny when people
are defending him and it just kept on being more and more women and they're like eventually
defending him became really exhausting it's that lady this woman's life it's the meme of the lady
out back of the wendy's they're just like i can't i think what's crazy about the whole cosby thing is
that hannibal did it in a like a riff it wasn't even like a finished joke little it was a riff
someone filmed that it ended and he was like pick up your pants and he goes what about all those
rate what about those ladies you was like it was like a yeah it was just like it really was a
throwaway line i filmed on a phone the original i feel like there's there's three major comic
moments that were filmed there was that bill burr telling everyone to go in philly on the virus
tour yeah telling everyone to get fucked by big black dicks or whatever when he was on
bobby kelly's podcast yeah it's like me nate lewis and list we asked him about that and he was like
i was afraid that was going to become my thing right like i would go do stand-up and people
would just fucking yell at me and i would have to fight back and he did get bigger from that right
which that was a viral so it's interesting because they booed dalmer era they booed like a bunch of
people before him and he went out like looking for the fight yeah yeah yeah and it's interesting
because people bill burr is such a pure artist and we we talked shit about people go viral for
something he really did go viral for something like that was like one of the first viral stand-up
you had that and then kramer's crowd work that went uh big jay and i big jay quotes that in the
funniest way where we were making fun of someone what if he did that and then he said and then big
jay hits the line he goes see there's that word again there's that word and it's like lenny bruce
trying to like see the george carlin yeah they're just words yeah big jay nails that exact part of
it every time we're all just words there's that little word it's like full george carlin it is
fuck you you n-word piece of shit yeah these words yeah because when you see how kramer how mad he
gets at dude when you watch the have you watched the letterman apology recently it was michael
there i remember seinfeld being there i remember the audience laughing and seinfeld going it's not
funny and i remember thinking because he comes on and they go this is this is like before the
internet's everywhere yeah they just go like oh it's kramer and he goes i'm really sorry and they
go oh and jerry's like it's not funny i always felt it was a little sign felt saying that i don't
know why it just really rubbed me the wrong way that the audience is laughing because they don't
know what's going on and he's like quit laughing but it's like you're here trying to save your
and we won't have to edit this out because i'll never have to bump into him he was a guy that
when i moved here i was so excited to like see i was obsessed with the documentary comedian obsessed
with it yeah that's why colin quinn is like my favorite part of that whole documentary amazing
yeah i was obsessed with that documentary upset my friend zach gave it to me on my pretty genius
like who do you get who can you cast to make seinfeld look likable or the adams make seinfeld
look just grounded the man the um when he tells the story about the band landing in the field at
i was like he's the man yeah understand stand-up and it was like i was a comedy nerd so it fed
everything i wanted i was moving i was like part of the reason why i moved to new york city was
tough crowd opie and anthony and comedian yeah and like watching comedian i was like
like i still think about that documentary where i'm in the hallway about to go up at the cellar
and i think about that like sure when jerry walks up and charade smalls hosting and he goes go up
goes you go
going up wait charade's in it very young charade small the first five minutes when it shows manny
go there's a certain compulsion i've noticed oh wow go watch that documentary i used to watch it
once a year god charade smalls like 400 years old he's like he's like i remember when forrest gump
i opened for pictures i opened for mark twain yeah he goes mark twain's real name was samuel
clinton you go oh my god are you talking about sammy fuck sammy i knew sammy before he went by
mark twain around for so long he's in like all these old pictures like like
jack nicholson in the shining it's like 1919 when i saw don rickles do his first open mic i was like
this kid has something i was friends with two out of the three marks brothers holy shit that's
fucking crazy but that documentary like uh this is how joe list and i became such good friends
oh really we would go do open mics and like have beers or whatever we'd quoted at each other
without queuing each other up on it we do the colin quinn where he's in the tuxedo and he goes
what are you doing this weekend he goes this weekend working here that was like one of our
favorite lines and i was like oh my god i'm gonna do it again i'm gonna do it again i'm gonna do it
but you know what uh you know what seinfeld says on that i just actually really think it's not true
uh i've learned seinfeld at one point goes even if you're a celebrity even if you're jack nicholson
up there after a couple lines you're like what's next and i'm like that's not true you could be a
celebrity on stage maybe they won't laugh a lot but they'll say they love it because crowds are
star fuckers true but i push back on that i think jerry's right and i would say pulling a real louis
catch right now
he's my inspirado i i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna do the thing i know this is hard for you too
you're such a people pleaser you're like you're like i'm gonna disagree with you
find your inner voice in your head come on daniel do it your instinct is just to be like
you're totally right i know god what a good point push back you son of a bitch i'm gonna
but i um disagree uh madonna at the cellar
she bombed did she bob first five minutes it's exactly what seinfeld said they said all right
madonna and then and then she fucking ball all right well i saw bomb so bad liz wouldn't send
me the tape and i asked i said liz i gotta see that set and this goes i'm not fucking sending
you that date and i was like fair yeah that's fair all right i wanted to watch that and she
kept doing the thing let me rephrase a famous man no that might not be wrong well i saw michael
do an hour once and the audience seemed happy there wasn't anything but he sounds like he's
a comic he sounds like um he does the rhythm there are uh there are fugazis in this business
yeah yeah you go if from half of comics well yeah from from a 15 foot my buddies when i worked in
alaska they'd call these it was such a mean thing but i thought it was so funny they'd call women
15 foot fake outs where you go like from 15 feet away with these guys that live on boats yeah yeah
but they'd go like they'd see a woman that girl's hot 15 foot fake out yeah and you walk up and in
alaska you're like oh my god i'm not fucking with you i'm not fucking with you i'm not fucking with
you it was so funny i mean that's probably the majority of comics but i'm saying from their act
you go oh that's it sounds like it yeah because they do the they do the rhythm they do the cadence
and they go oh it's probably how a lot of rappers feel yeah yeah yeah because they go this
motherfucker doesn't it's kind of saying shit but it's just yeah how much is how how much is
how much is how and they go i don't even know if you're right i had that realization i was listening
to a recording once at a club i performed i was listening to the audio the next day and i do this
one well so there's already a rhythm going i did this one joke and i got the punchline completely
in reverse or just where it didn't make sense and the audience still laughed yeah it was like
realizing how empty this is in that moment when joe list became friends with louis ck which to
watch in real time was incredible yeah yeah because i mean we're talking about me him and
nate used to sit around and debate like oh my god when that special came out yeah i remember being
at barcelona bar having beers and being like this joke sucked this joke was incredible we were
arguing about it and i was like oh my god i'm not fucking with you i'm not fucking with you
with it i think me and nate were team burr and list was team louis yeah so we would argue like
no this joke for joke literally go joke for joke but we were friends and then list becomes friends
with louis and list would always say this thing about chris rock where he would go there's a line
in uh i think it's um bigger and blacker where he says when you're when you're white the sky
is the limit and when you're black the limit's the sky yeah and list would like he would go
like a speech about it yeah he'd be like it doesn't it's it's the same thing
but the rhythm the limits yeah you're right and he's doing the chris rock thing yeah yeah yeah
the limit that is the sky and it like gets a huge laugh it's dude this is one of my favorite stories
i don't know if joe's ever told this publicly so if you don't if i get in trouble joe i love you
and forgive me for telling the story but i think this is so funny so joe's on the road with louis
and they're having like breakfast or something i forget where they are they might even be in new
york but they're having a meal and they're having a meal and they're having a meal and they're having
and they're talking comedy and list brings this up this point that i he's opined on before that i
know he has in the chamber yeah yeah and he brings it up to louis and louis texting and and and joe's
like it just fucking doesn't make any sense and louis puts his phone down he goes yeah i just
texted rock that you said that and then he goes you don't fucking text him i thought that was
louis like just listening and he goes yeah he's texting what you said
i just thought that was like one of my favorite moments here you go fuck that would give me so
much anxiety where i go don't text him please edit that i mean it's it's like laughter is kind
of instinctual so it's like you you need the rhythm like it is true like i think that's why
i hated being a people pleaser so much i also think that's why my stand-up was weak until my
hbo special was because i was such a people pleaser that i would do bits they would get reactions and
i would still kind of know that the bit wasn't finished but it got a good reaction so i go let's
make it people i
right right right so it's good and until my hbo special that was the first time where i was like
what we're talking about the beginning like junkyarding shit yeah yeah this bit isn't good
but there's good lines in it right well you have to learn how to crush and then you can make the
decision to fucking you know yeah because people don't realize shit can crush yeah yeah like
bullshit can crush that's why i mean comedy is like the one art form which i really i really i
know i hate calling it it's carny work the truth is it's half
an art form and half like a sport because i think it's half carnival behavior yeah half
fear of doing actual art that's what i think it is well let's just say this it can be artistic i
think it's at its best it can be artistic but it's it's one field where uh you're just with
so many used car salesmen who just and i just have to like like fucking hemingway didn't have
to hang out with some fucking some beat writer that's like yeah i don't know dude i'm a pulp
writer
i'm just making up i just write the same poem every week to get pussy are you still working
on your fish book yeah it's called old man in the sea yeah it's kind of a big deal it's a it's an
analogy never mind yeah but you i mean you can tell it's a shitty field because also the only
if it is an art form it's the only field where the some of the biggest names endorse trump well
well it's also we're at the point now where stand-up has uh left its containment area
yeah and spread to the point where and i
i'm sorry you know if you're a fan of this podcast and you've listened you've heard me make this point
before we inherited everybody that should have been an mtv vj yeah yeah should have been a dj
yeah should have been a party promoter yeah should have been a serial rapist should have been a serial
criminals focused criminals and bad people files you just get people that come in here because
they know they can um fake it yeah and it'll be and they're still called a comedian sure
even though i know people that grew up i knew people that
are successful at comedy right yeah that don't like comedy yeah yeah yeah i know i can name over
and again you know the rule i'm the second part of that yeah but if you see me live i'll give you
names i will not give it publicly but if in person you come to one of my shows and you go hey you
were talking about this i'll give you the list i don't give a fuck like imagine if it's off air
it is like imagine if you're just like what's it like you're just like a classical composer
and there's another person who's called a classical composer but all they are is a
racist they're just a race like do you understand i'm fucking deaf this guy's still writing music
this guy's just saying racist things and he has millions of followers beethoven watching like
someone like that where he's not even a composer and he's watching him going come on
he's like i've been composing
i can't even fucking hear what i'm saying
it's like the fly
If he heard Bach or something, he's like, Bach is here.
i like how he got i think he got deaf in his like 50s but i like how he still takes the return voice
i'm giving him the death that's the voice which the deaf voice people took the deaf voice to do
the r-word voice yeah because it's like i'm being politically correct after i already said
can we edit that so i'm not kissing during a rape
this edward comes over with his african-american
but yeah i think um the deaf voice is the r-word of voices yeah for sure
pato did you go deaf like a month ago don't you know how to talk
but so uh yeah it's just like there are people in our field who are just
we know comedians and i know these people who go on stage and just say mean things
they're not i'm joking yeah but they're not even funny they're just mean and everyone's like that's
awesome katie and i were talking about this exact thing yesterday which is one of my pet peeves is
when someone says something mean and it doesn't get a reaction they want so they go i was just
joking yeah but you weren't but you weren't until that yeah we were talking about just joking like
when i asked a girl if i want to make a move and she's like no and i'm like it was just a bit yeah
but we were talking about the coach of the denver broncos sean payton
uh their quarterback bo nix broke his ankle and then it turned out that he had had a broken ankle
in high school and a broken ankle in uh at auburn before he transferred to oregon and and sean payton
went oh in that case i wouldn't have drafted him if i would have known that and he's like no i'm
just joking and he goes no that was real like i actually meant that shit and then a couple days
later he was like yeah he kind of hid information from me that that ankle was a problem and bo nix
was like i never hid any information and he's like and i don't think he should have said that
and you're like so he wasn't just because he did a second
thing where you go that is what you believe well it's literally like yeah like i i remember the
first time i made a move on a girl i was like uh we should like make out and then she i don't know
i just did that all the time and that would have been a joke funny if i kissed you right now and
that's literally what trump is doing with uh maybe we'll cancel the elections well it's a joke unless
i get away with it yeah which obama should have really if he would have known that was coming
obama doing that would have been funny he's like i'm gonna fuck every white woman in america
just joking i'm just joking my favorite i'm gonna make you all have uh black
husbands oh i'm just joking back to our point of being in a field where you watch people fake it
i think that's important because i think that makes good comics more valuable yeah and i think
we're going through a place right now where people are going there's so much shit out there and i go
there is a lot of shit but there's very few good comics but that's what's good about yeah embrace
them yeah like blow on those embers yeah fan those flames no i'm very loud i like having you on here
you put out great fucking comedy morbidly morbidly jewish
morbidly obese fat piece of shit i don't even know i'm sorry morbidly
kike fat kike whatever it is
uh morbidly morbidly jewish
do you want to recall
it's so funny if i just called it morbidly obese
it's just morbidly obese please go watch run on special he is uh i know we talk a lot of shit
about people out there that suck he's not one of them he's not one of them he's not one of them
he's a fucking great comic that means a lot and uh i just like genuinely love this shit and i love
people that love this shit and that's always what i want to like yeah push is like there are people
that grew up watching woody allen yeah mel brooks that when they were little they're like i could
never do this then you get to do it and you go like how cool is it i get to do yeah no i would
like sometimes someone comment like you're not funny to me and i and i don't want to be arrogant
but i just kind of want to comment back because like i write jokes like you should like like that's
something that's not funny to me and i and i don't want to be arrogant but i just kind of want to
a rare thing it's like yeah my my thing is uh i've i've have too many tax returns to disagree
yeah yeah yeah i can just go look at tax returns and go yeah you and you might not think i'm funny
that's fine you don't have to think i'm funny there are a lot of people that do and i'm gonna
go yeah you know what i always think about it is my favorite thing about being funny and what's
always got me in trouble at other jobs was i always liked making my co-workers laugh
and i always liked being a part of the job where it was like a relief where it was like
we were sitting we're waiting tables we're sitting off in the hutch making each other laugh
if i'm working at bed bath and beyond we're unpacking boxes making each other laugh
it's always been i'm at the bar having a beer with you i would say stylistically that's what i want as
my comedy you don't have to be in the break room with us yeah if you don't like it of course yeah
go empty other boxes yeah you don't like it move down the bar and have a beer i'm not one of these
people that's like fuck you you what you like yeah you can find something you like and if it ain't me
it ain't me but i don't need to engage with you anymore of course not yeah yeah no you just yeah
it's not worth it yeah and there's enough people on the planet you can just find whoever eight
billion there's someone for you when i think about eight billion i'm like i really should
have a bigger fan base like every time it breaks my heart like there's eight billion people and i
got 20 people to see in kansas yeah but you don't realize two billion of them live miles below our
poverty line where if you brought them a glass of clean water they'd be like you're my favorite
comic
you're my favorite comic and i subscribe subscribe to your patreon because it's indoor plumbing
your patreon is a bath right right right right that's pretty cool but uh morbidly jewish is the
special the link is in the bio down here of the video run on is fucking hilarious and i'm glad
you came by oh it's always a pleasure thanks for having me thanks buddy
Thank you.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The comedian is actively touring and preparing a special to film in June, with key shows scheduled in Omaha, New Jersey, and Key West.
He will perform at the Omaha Funny Bone on May 15–16 with special guest Brendan Sagalow, and at the New Jersey Performing Arts Center on June 5.
Surprise shows are planned in Key West, Florida, on June 1–2, for fans in the area.
He describes stand-up as a "junkyard" of jokes, where working lines are repurposed into new bits, creating a patched-together but cohesive performance.
He values genuine, conversational comedy over structured premises, comparing it to a "podcast play date" where humor flows naturally.
He praises Richard Pryor and Mel Brooks for their ability to turn pain and hardship into humor, emphasizing warmth and authenticity in comedy.
The comedian reflects on the evolution of comedy through personal growth, noting that many comics are more like "mathematicians" than true entertainers.
He highlights the role of personal stories and self-awareness in comedy, drawing connections between humor, trauma, and identity.
Summary:
The comedian is actively touring to promote his upcoming special, scheduled for filming in June. Key performances include four shows at the Omaha Funny Bone with Brendan Sagalow, a Netflix "Joke" movie watch-along at the Avalon Theater in New Jersey, and surprise appearances in Key West. He emphasizes that stand-up is a "junkyard" of jokes—where successful lines are repurposed into new bits—creating a seemingly seamless but actually patchwork act.
He values authentic, conversational humor over structured formats, calling his podcast a "playdate" where comedians share genuine thoughts and banter. He deeply respects Richard Pryor and Mel Brooks for transforming personal pain into joyful, heartfelt comedy. He also reflects on the nature of comedy as a personal journey, where humor emerges from self-awareness and lived experience.
He notes that many comics lean toward intellectualism rather than authentic humor and shares insights on how trauma, shame, and cultural beliefs shape personal and comedic identity. The discussion includes reflections on Judaism, religion, and sexuality, where he highlights the lack of shame in Jewish traditions and the role of self-acceptance in personal growth. Ultimately, the conversation celebrates the raw, human element of comedy as a form of connection and self-expression.
FAQs
The comedian is performing at the Omaha Funny Bone on May 15th and 16th, with four shows and guest Brendan Sagalow.
On May 6th, the comedian is at the Avalon Theater for a Netflix Is a Joke movie watch-along, featuring Tim Dillon as a guest.
The comedian will perform at the New Jersey Performing Arts Center on June 5th, which is the final run-through before filming.
Yes, there are surprise shows on June 1st and 2nd in Key West, Florida, for fans in that area.
Tickets are available through DanceOrder.com for all performances listed.
It refers to taking a working line from a joke that failed and using it in a new, successful joke, like finding a spark plug in a junkyard.
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