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🚨Katie Zacharia OUT As Press Sec...A FOX News Set Up? Who Gets The Gig Now? Plus, Why It's ALREADY OVER For Ilhan Omar S6E18

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🚨Katie Zacharia OUT As Press Sec...A FOX News Set Up? Who Gets The Gig Now? Plus, Why It's ALREADY OVER For Ilhan Omar S6E18

Katie Zakaria was removed from her role as White House press secretary after a series of high-profile, poorly received interviews—particularly on Fox—where she struggled to answer tough questions about her legal background and appeared unprepared. The president publicly defended her, stating she was unfairly treated and emphasized the need for a press secretary who can confidently handle media scrutiny. Critics highlight her failure to pass the bar exam, vague explanations of her legal experience, and nervous delivery during her first briefing, undermining her credibility. Her performance is seen as lacking the sharp policy knowledge and composure expected of a top-level press secretary. The dismissal appears to follow a pattern of Trump using media platforms to test aides, possibly signaling a deliberate strategy to eliminate underprepared hires. Alternatives such as Scott Jennings and Maria Barra are now under serious consideration due to their proven track records in media confrontations and deep policy knowledge. The case underscores the immense pressure of the role, where a candidate must not only be knowledgeable but also resilient under intense questioning. While the president expressed sympathy for Zakaria, the decision reflects a preference for seasoned, assertive communicators who can manage media attacks effectively. The incident also highlights broader issues of media accountability and how political figures assess trust, preparation, and performance in high-stakes public roles.

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Oh boy, you know, I saw this one coming just maybe not as fast as it hit. Of course, I unfortunately don't think I would have gone with Katie Zakaria to begin with. But you know, I got to hand it to this guy. I've got to hand it to the President of the United States because he does not mess around. In other words, you know, a lot of people have ego associated with, well, she's my pick, she's my hire. I'm keeping her there, you know, through thick earth and not him, not him. He's actually very fair in that sense. And I think he saw what perhaps we all saw. And that was that, right? So we have just learned today, welcome to the program, I'm sure you can make sure you subscribe. Katie Zakaria is out as press secretary, which means that she, she beats Karamucci. Hey, there you go, okay, he tweeted out today, he's like, you know, records are meant to be broken. He was a very good sport about it anyway, but I certainly don't wish her any heart. And none of us too, by the way, I mean, I think she was putting a very unfortunate position and we're going to talk a little bit about that because some people actually think that Fox was kind of out together. What do you think? I don't know, but she went and did a couple of interviews on Fox within the last 24 hours to try and salvage her reputation and they didn't go so well. You see, she was trying to recover from a few things. One was some skepticism about her law credentials, we'll talk about that. And then the other was just the ability to get up and command the room, right? As they say, because this ain't easy, being a press secretary, those people, I told you this the other day, I'm like, they're vultures. You never let them see a sweat. And first day, they definitely saw her sweat. She was very nervous. I get it. It's just that the stakes are so darn high right now, watch. I am so honored to work for President Trump and the American people as a new White House press secretary. I want to thank President Trump for his trust that he has placed in me. I have wanted to work for him for a very long time. I'm looking forward to working with each of you as well, especially as we are in the middle of the midterm blitz, with energy and excitement, never seen before in the history of midterms. Okay. Right. So you could sense it, her voice was a little bit wobbly, she was shaky. She wasn't completely steeped in the content. And listen, like these reporters are doing this day in and day out. So if you're going to go there and give them a song and dance, and let's not forget, what is your job as a flack? I mean, that's why I'd be so bad at it, right? Because I'm too freaking honest. And I have my own opinions, which most of the time I agree with the president, but not always, right? So that's a hard job. You've got to be able to spin. That's what it is. You're a spin machine, which means you need to be able to dance circles and circles and pure wets around these, frankly, idiots that are in that room. But, you know, they're snappy little idiots and they're going to go after you. They are vultures and they were like sharks in the water, I mean, especially after she said this. A personal question, your family's in California, your husband, you have four children. I'm wondering how you manage, how are you going to manage that? Caroline Levitt left, because she wanted to spend more time with her family and also did she give you any advice on how to handle this job? And the people in this room? Well, first of all, I want to give my husband an amazing shout out. We have four kids ranging from 12, 10, 8, and 6, three of them are boys, so we have a handful. And I adore my family. I love them. They are my priority. They love being with my kids. The idea of not spending evenings with my kids is kids are completely unacceptable. So my president, excuse me, my husband, that's a good one. Okay, so it was a rocky start. And then it got worse, because she went to Pepadon Law School, great school, and they kept asking her, where did you pass the bar? And instead of getting all this information out front, like instead of really being forthcoming about it for whatever reason she wasn't, it's very hard to hear this, but they're asking the president where she passed the bar because he's like, "Oh, she's a lawyer, she's a lawyer, watch." I thought she was very good. So we thought she was very good. And now they start asking. You said she's in the training, where did she pass the bar exam? Which state? Which state? Where did she pass the bar exam? And she said, "When I was in charge?" And she said, "When I was in charge?" And the story is, she tried to pass it in California and she didn't pass first time. And so next thing you know, she's married and she's overseas, and then she did an internship. So it was an internship, paid internship of some kind for a farm over in China, but then she kind of inflated that a little bit. Long story short, this often happens with people in politics. They kind of pad the resume, and they try to make themselves be all that. And then the reporters, the vultures come sniffing around, and, well, they sniffed and sniffed, and there was just not enough there, right? There was no passing of the bar exam, et cetera. And so I think all things considered, I still get to reiterate one thing. Like, this president does not mess around. Sure, he likes people, and he gives them the benefit of the doubt, and he gives people opportunities. But this was one, I don't know where, like, it came from left field, it really did. My expectation was for a few different other picks, and we'll talk about those picks because I still think they're in the running, and I still think that could happen. The intel I had was that Susie Wiles really liked some other folks. Certainly, I don't think Katie's name ever was on anybody's radar. I think the president wanted somebody that he knew really liked him, and she made that clear over and over and over again, perhaps too much, right? Like, it can't be too effusive, right? At the end of the day, it's a job, and if the media sees you as somebody who just worships the guy and doesn't have the presentation skills, I'm going to say that because I'm sure she's a smart woman, right? She went to Papadine Law School, I'm sure she's a smart woman. Maybe she just didn't study for the bar exam, can happen to anyone, right? So let's assume that she is smart. The problem with this gig that she was trying to take on is that it's more than just being smart. It's being a whip smart and being able to shoot it back at these guys. Who did it brilliantly? It was one of the best I've ever seen. Carolyn Levin. All right? She was really talented, very, very good at this, and then the other one was Sarah Sanders. I mean, just how could be Sanders? Wonderful, wonderful press secretaries, and so she had some very big shoes to fill. And you've got to conduct yourself with a certain amount of sophistication, Savua fair, and a lot of bravado and a lot of confidence, and again, you never let them see you sweat. And you can't let them know that you're nervous, no matter how nervous you are, because they're just going to circle and circle and circle, and I think in this case, that's exactly what happened. And so they were just going to keep pounding on her, and the president needs to know one that he's got someone that can take it, right? That's just one tough, tough, cookie, and two, someone that can dish it back. And I said the other day after we watched that press conference together, that the key to her future would be knowing the facts inside and out, which kind of means you got to sleep eat and breathe this policy gunk. I realize, you know, there's a lot that goes into it. She's got the gorgeous hair and the whole bit, right? And that takes time. But while you're doing your hair, maybe, you know, listen to some, some briefs along the way, like get the information on the economy, on policy, on what's going on overseas, just know it cold because you need to be able to go back and shove it in their face. And that, I think, is maybe not even her personality, like to be fair. Like I said, it's a tough job, it's a unique kind of job, it's kind of a weird job, right? Kind of a weird job. You know, it's a job where you have to just believe in everything. And if you don't believe in it, you can't let that be known. Not that she didn't, but I'm just saying, like even if you, even if you think the president has got completely ass and eye and tax policy, like at some point, it's your job to present this information and spin it for the press, all right? That's why they call them spinmeisters. And I'm telling you, Caroline was awesome, like really good. Sarah was awesome. And I know, like, because I would talk to Sarah all the time and she'd always get right back to you. I have less of a relationship with Caroline, but I can tell you vis-a-vis, you know, the rumor will, awesome, it getting back to people. So just really prompt, really on it. So you need that kind of level of, quote-unquote service for the media, and they have questions they want to get answered. And then you need that kind of bravado and confidence in that, you know, essence, the Genese co- when you get out in front of that room of vultures, you got to be able to take them on. So, here's a question that keeps coming up. She went on Fox twice within like the last 24 hours. She went on Hannity's show last night, and it didn't go well. And then she went on Fox and friends again this morning, and again, it didn't go well. And now the president's out saying that the media was trying to get her, yeah, and some are interpreting that to be Fox as well. Here's the president. I want to show you by the way. We're going to watch what happened on Hannity's program, because let's just say like Hannity should be a really soft, breezy, happy little place for her to go. And it wasn't. I mean, it wasn't hard. It's Hannity after all, right? Like he wants to like her. It wasn't hard, but he was giving her an opportunity to kind of explain herself, and she just couldn't get there. And so now people are like, oh, it's Hannity's fault. And that's why I want you to see it. But first, listen to the president going on about the treatment that she got from the media. So he wasn't happy about it, and then he goes on, and at some point he mentions Fox. And so again, we'll go to the Fox clips, because I want to get your impression on it too. We'll like dissect it together. It's a very interesting, very interesting. And I have some perspective on this. Having worked at Fox and knowing Hannity and knowing how these things happened, I think he probably was trying to help her, but like that's just not the way it went. And so now CNN is out saying, oh, you know, Fox, it was Fox. He sunk her. They literally torched her watch. Is there a sense, Brian, that those were, I mean, you've got to wonder if she was going into those interviews, thinking that they might have been a little bit of an effort to rehab her, but instead it read a bit more like a sneak attack. And between those interviews, and the president's comments today, even though he is blaming the media, there's this sense of like a one, two punch with a kiss of death there at the end. Yeah, and I know what viewers are wondering. They're wondering. Did Trump call in a favor? Did he call his friend, Sean Hannity? Did they work as out together to make her look bad to force her out of the job? We don't know the answer. To be very blunt about it. We don't know. But did that happen in the past with Trump and Hannity? Yes, they have worked together in the past. They've coordinated TV segments before airtime. They've talked again afterward. I wrote a whole book about that during Trump 1.0. So here we are in Trump 2.0, and we are seeing some of the same kind of phenomenon. Trump will hire off the television. He will also fire by the television. Remember, when Zacharias stepped to the podium on Tuesday, what was the big news she broke? It was that the president wanted Kimberly Guilfwell, the Xbox News host, to resign from her position as US ambassador to Greece. So Zacharias literally was out there making big news on the president's behalf, maybe doing the dirty work the president didn't want to do himself by announcing that he wanted Guilfwell out of that post. She resigned within hours. I wonder if we're actually seeing the same thing happening now to the press secretary on day five of her new job. Wow. So it was interesting that the president gave her that little bit of news about Kimberly to just dangle out there. I think if I wanted to give her some news and he probably, you know, he had to deal with Kimberly's situation at one point or another because that was another sort of PR fiasco that was blowing up, but this is interesting. I mean, did he and Hannity have some kind of deal worked out? Here's what I can tell you. Sure. They talk all the time, all the time, all the time, all the time. And he values Hannity's opinion and Hannity is going to work to advance his cause. So I actually think that Hannity in a way like it, and I understand that my style is such that I actually think you have to ask people these hard questions because if you don't then they don't get the chance to save themselves. So I actually think, but I want your opinion first because we'll want it together. It's a few minutes, but it's fascinating because I don't think I've ever seen Hannity be ever so tough on anyone. I think it's good to be tough on people in times like that because, you know, the go and get tough, right? Like it's sink or swim. She should have been able to be like, woo, you know, here's the deal, buddy, and then it's game over. You put it to bed. And Hannity did everyone a favor and the president a favor by giving her that airtime and giving her that opportunity to show what she could do. But that's not how it went down. And then as you heard the CNN folks say, she got the kiss of death at the very end. So you got to watch the whole thing because the way this unfolds, guys, it's certainly, you know, it points to more mystery. And it's possible the president realized, gee, I made a mistake. And Hannity could have said, well, let me help you out. Let's put her on television and again, it's fair because he wasn't like awful. But you know, for Hannity, it was something I think I think watch straight ahead. All right, Katie, I know this is a widely viewed interview for you. And you had your first first moment as press secretary. It's been widely panned. I'm sure you're aware. It only lasted 14 minutes. It only took three questions, questions about your legal background, calling yourself a lawyer. You went to Pepperdine Law School, but you did not pass the bar exam, correct? Correct. Okay. What happened? How did you feel it went personally? Well, Sean, I want to give some background and it's nice to be on here with you. And such a privilege to serve as President Trump's new press secretary. I was given the offer last Wednesday, or I got a phone call last Wednesday. I flew out to DC on Thursday. I had a meeting on Friday, was offered the job, flew home to California on Saturday, flew back to Washington on Sunday, was asked to start on Monday, Sean, which is Columbus Day. And so it's a federal holiday and have a press briefing at 930 in the morning on Tuesday. So what I feel is I really stepped up and to the plate to do the press conference, Sean, with very little prep time I received briefing materials in the morning of Tuesday. And I went to deliver all of the great results that President Trump is delivering for the American people that are not often spread in the national media. So I took it as an opportunity so people would know what he's doing for Americans and how hard he's working. And then I delivered some breaking news. I think I'm one of the first press secretaries to deliver staff changes for the administration. And I was honored that President Trump trusted me, delivering that information. And then I took several questions. And I think it's been mixed, Sean, because they've said I only took questions from conservative outlets. However, the daily mail is not known to be a conservative outlet or friendly to conservative. So I do challenge that narrative. And then as I should have, I ended the conference and I left as I believe, given the fact that I'd been on the job less than maybe eight hours and had a briefing book in the morning, I feel like I did my very best, Sean, to deliver for the American people that day. Okay. So she's had two minutes, like in cable time, that's an eternity, right? So she's had two minutes to talk. He did not interrupt her. He let her go. Or say her piece and she gave us all the reasons why it was a holiday weekend. Trust me. No one in the Trump administration cares about, like he think the president is like he's working 24/7. Like they don't give me that it's a holiday. I'm sorry. It's Columbus Day. Columbus Day, by the way. So the holiday thing is not really going to work and oh my gosh, I only had this much time and this much time. Oh, like you should eat, sleep and breathe this, right? We shouldn't be bringing people in. They're going to be the press person that do not have a freaking clue. Okay? No, no. You're not doing that. Okay? You've got to actually know your stuff inside and out. So I don't buy that either. If you're going to be the press secretary, like you better know everything before you step into that room. And then she kind of seems to be suggesting. And this is what I think he probably really didn't appreciate that it was the staff that under-prepared her and Sean picks up on that right away. Listen to what he says, she's had the floor for two minutes. Am I hearing that you think the staff should have prepped you better? Well, I believe that in that time I could have just given a brief intro and said I'm only here to introduce myself and I want to engage with the press corps. I was someone who wants to build relationships with every single one of you. I however have been on the day and the job for one day and I now need to, you know, instead of taking questions, probably should have stepped aside. However, I was able to, I was able to deliver breaking news, which I do believe was the right thing to do as the press secretary, Sean. I saw you were on with Jack Possobiak, I guess earlier tonight. And you called it a conspiracy theory as it relates to the issue of being a lawyer. Now you did go to Pepperdine, Pepperdine is a good school, no doubt about it. You took the bar exam, but you didn't pass the bar exam, correct? Yes, Sean. Okay, did you ever take it a second time? So for background, I graduated Pepperdine, got married in the same week, and we had all intent to move out to China. I had already pre-registered for the bar exam, and basically during the summer, I knew I would be living in China, and the results of the bar were inconsequential, and I sat for it because I didn't want to have a withdraw status, and then I moved over to China, and where I did get a job in an international practice of a Chinese law firm. I was doing cross-country border transactions and multi-million dollar shareholder agreements. But I want to ask you specifically, I know that part of the story, and you did do all of that. Yes. But did you ever take the bar exam a second time, or a third time? I did not, Sean. No. Okay, so you said you consulted with many people, and they advised you that it was okay to call yourself a lawyer, but not an attorney, correct? Okay, these are weird questions from Sean, I'm just going to say, like I don't think I've ever heard him be so tough on anyone. Again, it's, she's, you know, she's, she's digging herself in, but wow. Correct. Okay, there's a report out tonight that showed 15 social media posts where you identify yourself as an attorney. I think they were retweets, and I corrected the record and said that there's not endorsing the title. They were retweets of a title that had been given. You know, it, look, that is a very tough room, and I've known a lot of press secretaries over the years. And following on the heels of Caroline Levitt is very tough. And I, I'm speaking for Donald Trump makes everything tougher. Why not just say I went to Pepperdine Law School and then took a different career path, and I took the bar once and then pass it, why get into this long drawn out definition between the difference between a lawyer and an attorney, because I don't think most people see much of a distinction. Why didn't you say I never practiced law? Well, Sean, I, when I moved back from the United States, I didn't retake the bar, I had four kids in six years, it was never my intent to go into the practice of law. When I was at, when, when I went to go engage in media and give legal analysis, I consulted attorneys and legal professionals as to whether or not they agreed that I could be labeled a lawyer, both because I had a valid jurist doctor from a good law school, a reputable law school, Pepperdine Law School, and in conjunction with the fact that I did have actual substantive legal experience, I wasn't providing any legal analysis, Sean, or I'm, excuse me, a legal advice. I wasn't being paid for legal advice, I was giving a general review of the legal circumstances surrounding it. All right. Why only three questions in 14 minutes and what might you do a little differently going forward? I can give you some unsolicited advice that's never going to be a friendly room to you. There. Yeah, so what I, what I would say is I would absolutely be very well prepared on the briefing, Sean, and I would love, and I do love questions, and I would love to build a relationship with all of those members of the press corps. So there is a substantive component to us having an ability to interact. I will be very prepared, Sean, and I will step up to the duty of President Trump has asked me to as press secretary. All right, Katie, we wish you the best of luck in the new position, and we do appreciate you coming up. Thank you. He's like, you're done. Do you hear him clicking his pen back and forth just like this? He's like, anyway, I feel bad for her too, okay, but listen, this is the big leagues. I felt bad for Pambondi, but I told you guys we can't have Pambondi as our attorney general for goodness. She's not getting squat done. She just keeps going on TV. She actually sounds good on TV. And what did I tell you? Make Pambondi your flack. Make Pambondi head of PR. Pambondi would be better than poor Katie. Like who just, you know, need some work. Some seasoning. I said, maybe she'll grow into it. Well, you know, maybe they were hoping she'd grow into it. And that maybe after a Hannity, she would do better when they invited her on Fox and friends. But nope, it's like, you know, three strikes in your out. There was the press conference. There was Hannity. And then there was this. We, men, you're hitting the ground running. Katie, first off, thanks so much for joining us. Congratulations on the job. Your thoughts about how it's gone so far. Brian, thank you for having me at such a privilege to be here on behalf of President Trump. And I was, I hit the ground running after the briefing. We went to Alaska, Arizona, Montana, and this president, every single rally is a different speech. And I have to tell you, as we pulled up to this rural Montana rally, that place was overwhelmed with major supporters. And what it reminds me, Brian, is that America loves President Trump. And when you read the news or when you read online, they have all the state. But the real ground truth is all of these rallies are making a substantial difference for these midterms. And it has been a blitz. This President Trump has more energy, more enthusiasm and more drive to save America. And I am so excited to be along the journey with him. And I have to keep up with him because he has so much energy, Brian. You know, Katie, it's been a tough week for you. You know, it's, it's not an easy job to be the press secretary and you never want to be the story, but I have to ask, do you wish you would have disclosed to the president about the bar and not passing the bar? Yeah, well, Lawrence, those questions weren't asked. I'm being hired as White House Press Secretary and not White House Council. The conversations and the reason I was, the reason that I was hired was to represent the president in the press. I was watching your interview last night on, on Sean Show and God bless you because it's the other than the president, I think it was be the hardest job because you have to know all the facts. You have to speak off the cuff and you were just thrown into this role. So is there anything that you would say differently or clarify differently on Sean's interview last night or the White House press briefing, your first briefing, anything you do differently? You know, I'm just so grateful to be here and I'm really looking forward to be an asset to President Trump and focusing on what he's doing for the American people and I, and the legacy media wants to put the focus and attention on me because they want to be distracted. They wanted to be distracted from the major wins that President Trump is making for America. So I'm looking forward to the next week. It is a blitz week. He is traveling almost every single day for huge packed rallies and that is what I'm looking forward to. Yeah, you know, I remember the president did not like the way one of his press secretary, you know, like any of them with the way they were treated, but one, he just decided, I don't want to aim more briefings and, you know, speaking that the abrasive way, a lot of the questions were on your first briefing, did the president give you any advice with all those miles that you were in the air with him, did he give you some feedback? Well, I wouldn't disclose private conversations, but what I will say is that I had the opportunity to do what I don't think many press secretaries in the past have done, which is to break news on staff and I really am grateful to President Trump for trusting me to break. She keeps going back to that. I'm sorry. It wasn't really news. Anybody in the conservative world even wanted to hear, like people liked Kimberly. Like, that is so what, you broke news. He just said we're firing her. This is her claim to fame. I'm sorry guys. Like, it's, you know, I want to be nice and I'm a very nice person. You know that. This is like serious like we, we got midterms coming up. We got two more years. We don't need rinky dinks running the show. That news and I do believe that really shifted the press conference and also gave me a platform to be able to deal with hard news for him in the future, Brian. Got it. All right. Let's move on. Let's go to some of the news of the day. The Wall Street Journal. Yeah, okay. We're good. Like news of the day. I'm sorry. She is no Sarah Sanders. She is not really able to deliver on air at all. So sometimes you just got to cut your losses, right? You don't put good money after bad. He's trying to be charitable about it. He's trying to be nice about it. He's like, you know, she doesn't need this. She's got four kids at home. Who the heck needs this? So I think that's that. And now he's looking for someone new. The president does need a press person and he wants to get a good one. And so I think he ought to consider some of my original recommendations. Who'd I tell you? Scott. Scott Jennings. He might be in the mix. The president seemed to think so, not too long ago, remember? Okay. That was President Trump on the north side of the White House. That was just me wanting to show you, Scott, because I think Scott's like, aha, this is him on his show today when he heard the news that Katie was leaving. Okay. Okay, that was President Trump on the north side of the White House just a few minutes ago, making his first comments about the last week with his new press secretary, Katie Zachariah. Just to recap, President told the reporters there that he told Zachariah, "Is this for you?" He told her, "You don't need this. You aren't being treated fairly." He referred to her interview on Fox News last night. Sean was a little bit tough. He said, "Fox, this morning was a little bit tough." He said, "He told Zachariah, you don't have to do this if you don't want to." He said, "I'm going to let her make that decision. She's a nice person. If I were you, I'd reconsider. I just want her to be happy." She has suffered over the last few days. You know, I think the President is right. I think she is a very nice person, and obviously, she and the President have some things to talk about. It has gone a little bumpy over the past few days, but President making news here, perhaps reconsidering his choice of White House press secretary. Right, Scott, because he's going to get you, right? Or Maria? Those are my two top picks right now. What do you guys think? I mean, I was hearing a lot about Scott, and then, wow, Maria Barraamo was unceremoniously parting ways with Fox. You know what I like about the idea of Maria? That would be one heck of a way to get back in Fox. They don't have to put her on the air every day. We're kind of funny, right? Donald Trump, not too long ago, saying, "Yes, Scott Jennings is pretty good. Maybe he could get the gig." "No, that's possible. You're doing a good job. Maybe you. Scott Jennings is good." Scott Jennings is good, and then he keeps going on. And on, Scott Jennings is very good. Scott Jennings knows how to basically rip apart the media and the lip-tards, and he takes them on like every night on CNN. It's like eight to one. I mean, that's like being at the podium, right? Anybody with an elementary school understanding of foreign policy could have told you the straight-of-form who's was going to get shut down, and that is exactly what happened. And who controls it right now? Who controls this higher gas prices, so high then? Why were they high during Biden's administration? Did you like that? It wasn't because of AIDS. It wasn't because of a geopolitical. Here's a deal. "You're using last week's talking points, David. We control the straight. We are in charge of this conflict right now." He would do a really good job. I realize like some people don't like that he worked for Mitch McConnell and this, not the other, but I'm just saying like in terms of presence and terms of having knowledge about all these different topics. I mean, he's talking about him on his show. He's out there on CNN. I know you guys are like, "Trish, Trish, Trish, everything is I have a life, and I have a show, right? I have my show, and I have my three kids." Not that he doesn't have one, but I think he's in DC. No, maybe he's in New York. No, maybe he's in DC. I wonder where they shoot that show from on CNN, perhaps it's at a DC. I can't just up and move as easily as apparently Katie could, right, from California to DC. Again, I feel really bad for her, but it was just the wrong call. And I think sometimes in business and in life, when you make a mistake, part of success is knowing when it's time to move on. Knowing like, okay, this isn't really working. And so you pivot. And the president showed me yet again, like he gets it. He realized, okay, this is not going that well. Maybe Hannity was a little tough on her, but here's the reality of it. Like that's the gig, okay? Everybody's going to be tough on you. Hannity's going to be the nicest one you've found. Just wait till you meet up with Rachel Maddow, okay? Unless she has the hotspour yet. Katie, it's not going to go well. So I just think that I'm making a joke about Rachel, which I'll think we know. I'm just making the point that you've got to be pretty seasoned. You've got to know how to deal with the press. You know who is pretty seasoned. You know who knows. Absolutely how to deal with the press. You know who knows this news cycle inside and out. My really great one time colleague, a wonderful woman. And she can take anyone on. And she's been known to one Maria Bartiroma, right? The cases of some people who are married that you want them if they've changed their name to go and have to prove that with their birth certificate to a registrar, get your birth certificate. Yes, that's the law. You can't go if you're not an American. Yes, get your birth certificate. Yes, that's exactly right. I wanted a copy of my birth certificate. I went online. I got the birth certificate. I got it. It took a week. No problem. Now that's what I'm talking about, right? So Maria's free. Maria's available. I don't know. Maria would want to do it only because I think Maria likes what she does, which is hosting a show. And she's a workaholic. I mean, she's, she's got that going for her. She's a little like Trump that way. I'm telling you, this woman like never stopped, never, ever stopped. She hosted a show six days a week. She had one day off Saturdays. And on Saturday, whoa, she was doing. She was booking guests and putting together her show for Sunday. And then she did three hours a day. And then she had some other show that aired on the weekend on. I mean, it was unbelievable. She is a workaholic. And she's like 24/7, 365. So I'm kind of thinking, right? That could be a good, a good little pairing because Maria has the interest of the president. Maria's not going to take two bits of anything from anyone you saw her with row. And she's going to work 24/7, 365. So I'm just saying like in the scheme of things, you know, you guys are mentioning Carrie Lake as well. And that is an excellent one. I actually hadn't thought about Carrie. And she's working for the administration. She's done a really good job. I'm just looking through your comments as I come to you live at this moment. If you're watching the replay, don't forget, give a thumbs up, make a comment. Let me know who you think. But as I see some of the live comments, Carrie Lake could actually be very good. She's excellent as a speaker. She knows her stuff. She knows how to handle the media. And she's over there right now and has a position, I think within the state department in a communications role. And you know, one of the good things about her right now is we don't hear a lot from her. Do we? In a good way, because sometimes, you know, part of it's doing your job. And she's doing her job. And there's no scandal. And there's no this, that and the other. So that might be an interesting one as well. But I like Maria too, because you know, Maria knows the economy inside and out. This is Maria's bread and butter. Maria is going to be able to outtalk and outsmart any single one of those people in the press pool. They do not have her depth of knowledge about finance, about markets, about sanctions, and about the general political, you know, she could do very, very, very well. And you know, let's not forget, she really does have the interests of this administration at heart. So that would be one to look at. So, you know, right now, as I just kind of use my crystal ball and I put things together. And if I were the president, and sometimes I think eating, we actually think a lot alike in weird ways. I mean, you threw me for a curbala, Katie, I kept saying, well, you know, she looks great. But the question becomes, can she deliver and manage the vultures, right? Like, there are a bunch of little vultures. And you got it, you got to understand the inmates cannot run the asylum. Alina Hava, great idea. Thank you for that Marlago, man. Good idea. Alina Hava, I hadn't thought of that either, but you know, she just got married and to like a zillionaire from Turkey. So maybe Alina's like interested in other things. I don't know. I haven't talked to her about this, but Scott is in the game. And Maria is one to watch. Unless Maria goes to work at CBS or CNN or any of those things that could still possibly be in play. But there's going to be a lot more news coming on this. I mean, he needs a press person. I think he needed a press person, by the way, to deliver the news on Kimberly the other day, which was awkward for him. Maybe, although I guess he could have come out and said it himself, he might have felt bad about it because, you know, she was a good friend and had dated his son and all of that. So I just think they're going to go back to the starting point. And make sure that they vet everybody and we'll have a new press secretary very soon, curious to think, see who you guys think. So tell me, is it Scott? Is it Maria? Is it Carrie? Is it Alina? Is it somebody else that I haven't even thought of? Because that person could exist. All right. We have new news on Ilhan Omar that we're going to talk about. I'll tell you, Ilhan Omar is in a lot of trouble. Ilhan Omar may be stripped of her citizenship sooner than you think. Yes, yes, yes, sooner than you think. I mean, it's all because of a piece of paper that I mentioned earlier in the week, right? I mean, that piece of paper that is seemingly missing. You know, as you know, you had the feds going in, they raided her, the whole nine yards, quite no deal. And they walked out with some stuff, some stuff we've We don't know exactly what, but they spent a lot of time inside the house. They showed up there at what 6am in the morning. And she and Timmy, Tim mine at the husband, they were inside. He's been really cranky these days. I mean, I've shown you some of the footage because reporters have caught up with him and he doesn't seem to appreciate any of that, right? Hey Tim, there are rumors that the congresswoman left the country. Is that true? Or she's still. I'm going to hell out of all the neighbors around me, man. No, I just wanted to get your response to everything that's been going on. That's all. And what the president's saying about the net worth and the investigation, just giving you a chance to respond. Okay, now he's not going to respond. He does not appreciate that. There are questions about his finances, of course. But today I want to stay a little bit more on Ilhan herself, right? Because there is an immediate problem for this woman, a very immediate problem. And it's not just, you know, on how old she is, but it's on some missing paperwork that I kept highlighting and I keep making a big deal about this because I think it's important. Her dad, Nur Omar Mohammed, he may have mistated her age when he applied for her to get citizenship because the thinking is she was really 18, she was not 17. If she was 17, she would have been a minor and then that would have been easy peasy. You know, she would have been naturalized in the year 2000. As a minor, she could of course derive her citizenship automatically through him. As an adult, however, if you're 18 years old, you're going to have to apply separately. Well, the warrant that they went in there to do the search for reportedly lists potential charges, including false statements, immigration fraud and conspiracy. I should point out that Janine Puro has another investigation going on right there. They're also looking at whether or not there were financial crimes. But in terms of the denaturalization issue, in terms of stripping her of citizenship, possibly deporting her, this actually looks like it could be more simple than you think. And it all has to do with this lack of documentation. So I've been kind of going around and around and around on this. Like I'm like, how is it that the father's naturalization documents are completely totally utterly missing? And if they're missing, then how the heck did this woman, Ilhan Omar, ever get citizenship? I mean, did he never become a citizen? This is an immediate problem, OK, an immediate problem for Ilhan Omar. I've been spending some time on this and this research, along with some doubts about who her father was and what his record is, it all matters. So I've got up on the screen right here. And if you watch the show, you've seen me show you this before. It's just that it's all coming together and it's being crystallized sort of in real time. Basically, US citizenship and immigration services in 2023 wrote to Aliyana Karn, AJ Karn, who was running against Ilhan and she was trying to basically get to the bottom of it, took them like a year. They spent all this time looking and looking and looking, actually look at this. She requested it in June 27 or 22 and a whole year later, June 20 or 2023, they're getting back to her and they spend a year looking for Ilhan's dad. And they can't find him under any of these names. So it is in question how he ever became a citizen of the United States in the first place. So there's some serious implications here, very serious. She was getting her citizenship from her dad and yet USCIS is sending a certificate of non-existence on the record, having searched for the name Neur Omar Mohammed, Neur Saeed El Mi Mohammed, searching for all these names and they don't find anything. And DHS runs its own search and they're coming up empty too, then guess what? There's no trace of her father ever naturalizing in the United States of America in the year 2000. So that is the document that may have lit this entire fuse for this entire raid. Were they perhaps looking for his citizenship records in those boxes during that raid? Certainly, I think that they'd like to get their hands on those if they exist, not possibly certainly. I mean, certainly, right? Because they need to find his citizenship papers to figure out whether he was ever really naturalized because if he's not naturalized, both Gonzo, she's not a legal citizen because she's deriving her citizenship through him. So I start thinking, like what is going on, like how does this make any sense? I mean, how the heck did she ever get naturalized, right? How did that happen? Is it somebody paying off somebody, you know, you got a friend in high places? It could just be as innocuous as the stuff got lost, right? Like, apparently that's actually relatively common, which is why you need to keep documentation yourself. So I was doing some research and basically looked and found that in 2006, the GAO did a report and what did they find? They found that 111,000 alien files had gone missing from across 14 of these U.S. citizenship and immigration services offices, 30,000 natural application, naturalization applications, and 2005, meanwhile, may have been approved, wait for it, without the background file ever being pulled. How does that make you feel, right? Roughly 4% of the cases that year had no background file. One of the men that got citizenship in 2002 did so with his A file missing and he had terrorized ties. It turns out, oh yeah, okay, so what's going on? I mean, it could be just, you know, we got bad staff, we got bad training, they're skipping the computer training, there's files that are lost in transfers, I don't know. I mean, a vanished record doesn't necessarily mean fraud, it doesn't mean that he paid somebody off to get him naturalized, et cetera, it could mean, you know, it just got lost and there's no record of it. Here's the thing, that's not our fault, but it is game over for Ilhan. It is game over because again, I want to reiterate, she got naturalized through the dad. Okay, the naturalization came through a derivative citizenship law. A child under the age of 18 doesn't file her own naturalization application, so when the parent takes the oath, guess what? The citizenship attaches to the kid automatically by operation of law, no ceremony, no separate N400 form, it's just done. So what she would have needed was proof, and that's where the passport comes in. They took her passport in the raid, so to get a passport as a U.S. citizen, as a derivative citizen, you'd have to submit your parents' naturalization certificate. The child's green card, a burst certificate, an evidence of custody, but if there's no naturalization certificate, what's going on? State Department verifies all of this issuance, so if she has a passport, and we're told that they took it, then at some point, somebody at states on naturalization certificate for NUR Omar Mohammed, or at least accepted some kind of documentation that may have been presented. So her A file would actually exist separately from her father's refugee admission in 1995, adjustment of status, green card, all of that generates its own paper trail. You see, under her own name and A number, the certificate of non-existence that Ms. Kern found and obtained was specifically about the father's naturalization, not Omar's records, but guess what? If there's no certificate for the dad, there's no citizenship for Ilhan, okay? Period, end of story. So yes, I realized they're looking, was she 17, was she 18, like that's another, that's the whole other thing. Like what we actually might have in front of us, guys, is a very simple case. There's no record that this guy ever became a naturalized citizen. I mean, maybe Ilhan has it, that's what she's going to have to prove, and then she's going to have to prove how old she was, right? That's when you get to that part, but this might be even more simple because nobody can seem to find this. So what would that actually mean? It would mean that if this does not exist, if she cannot show up with it. The burden's on her at this point. The burden becomes on her. She has to prove that her dad became a naturalized citizen and that she therefore is the derivative of that. But if she can't do that. If she can't prove that he was ever naturalized in the year 2000, then she'll go back to her green card status and then they can initiate deportation proceedings. They get 15 grandjury subpoenas that are going out. Her sister saw her nor other relatives. Nor actually skipped a University of Minnesota Rochester events this week. She cited a family emergency, "Yeah, just a little family emergency." Siblings would know the real day, right? They'd know the real name that the father used, so they might be able to help. Maybe they got a copy of his records. Maybe they remember when the ceremony happened, but if there's no naturalization, certificate, listen up. It's an easy case. She has no derivative citizenship. All of my sources are telling me she would absolutely lose her citizenship. I mean, it's not totally simple, because first you'd have to become a permanent resident status, I guess, based on the 95 refugee admission, and then deportation would still require a formal removal proceeding. And you know, look, you're trying to get rid of guys who have done really, really bad things, all kinds of bad things, and it's hard to get rid of them. No wonder. She's probably sitting there going, "Oh, something could happen to me, I don't know." But anyway, she'd get a hearing, she'd get a lawyer, she'd get a chance to contest it. The government would still have to prove that she obtained that status through fraud, but she does actually lose her citizenship in the very practical sense, because the father's naturalization cannot be proven there for the derivative citizenship, never legally existed. She's just green card holder, the whole time, not a citizen. So she's out of Congress, and then the next step becomes a cleaner legal path for them to initiate denaturalization, which is going to require proving fraud and court. And that's where the whole other leg of the investigation comes in, which Jean Puro and the 30 million bucks, right? About these financials, the disclosure, she was given a pass by the House Ethics, but somehow 30 million dollars magically appeared, then it magically disappeared. Well, I can tell you that is subject of an investigation as well, and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the House does. It doesn't matter, you know, what this agency or that does. We're looking at the facts based upon the facts. We'll follow them wherever they take us. All right, this is your office. It's doing this. And so she's conducting that probe. So if they can determine that Ilhan is not a citizen, she's just a green card holder. We go right back to 1995. Then the question becomes, did she commit fraud along the way? Don't forget the hubby's company, right? And the Biden Treasury Department, according to this guy's business partner, had put a hold on one of their accounts, not to mention the Biden DOJ was looking into this whole citizenship issue as well. So this stuff has been out there for a while. Meanwhile, there's something else that's been out there, and we've talked about it. If I think it's going to come up again, because the father and his connection to the Said Bar regime is coming under scrutiny. She reportedly said that one of the names that the father is believed to have gone by included Said. So again, we need that certificate. Is it Nor Omar, Mohamed, or Neur Said, Elmi, Mohamed, both variants are coming up empty. Everything's coming up empty. There's an Oxford researcher named Mohamed Hajjiris, and he was out telling the New York Post this week that actually Neur's real name is Neur Said, and that he was a full colonel in Bar's army, and he did some pretty bad stuff apparently. Bar's own hometown, I guess, is where he was stationed. He was a key military member, and he commanded a regiment in 1977, apparently through 78, in the war that they had against Ethiopians, some really, really bad stuff, of course, went down with all of that. And then there's a former fellow officer who also somehow wound up in Minneapolis. And according to what he wrote in the Saan Journal, the obituary of Nor after he died of COVID actually in 2020, he said that Nor actually played a very significant role in the war and was recognized for it. Now, Omar's own memoir calls him an educator. So who was he really? We don't totally know. So I think that that's part of the investigation that's going on as well. Saeed Bar, just so we're really clear. I mean, he was an awful Marxist dictator, and he had this Soviet-backed coup that wound up putting him in charge in Somalia back in '69. And so he ruled Somalia for like 21 years, and he was this Marxist-Leninist dictator. He was overthrown in '91, and his regime is actually implicated in a lot of atrocities, including genocide in the late 80s. They killed as many as 50,000 people, civilians in the North. The UN has actually called this one of the worst human rights records in Africa. So he eventually died in Nigeria where he was exiled. And so that's that. In other words, he was one of the Marxist-Leninist bad guys. Bad, bad, bad, bad. So if her dad was working for him, well, there you go. He never would have gotten one of these naturalizations through, like ever, because if he was truthful on his forms, and he was only fleeing after that dictatorship collapsed, and suddenly he and his family were then in trouble because they were targets in the new regime, we would not have taken somebody like that in. You understand that that wouldn't be qualifying you for refugee status. You would be only here as a refugee, I guess, if you lied. And that would mean you committed immigration fraud. And there we go, right back to square one, because it's effectively making his naturalization void and irrelevant, which means her derivative citizenship is then therefore irrelevant. The Washington Times, they had a big report on it this week, and I was reading this. They basically said that, look, if he failed to disclose that he was working for bar, then both he and his daughter and all the kids that came into the country effectively came in under fraudulent pretenses. And so, boom, okay. That means he never had refugee status. He never would have been naturalized. And so it's game over for her. Now, I should point out this, this has to get proven out. I mean, I've given you a couple, you know, New York Post reports, Washington Times report, there's a report out of Minneapolis, snopes for whatever that's worth. They're rating all of this as false or mostly false. Anything related to the father's war crimes version of this claim, they're saying that that is false. But, you know, they've rated a lot of things false. Let's just say so. I'm just giving you all the information that, by the way, our law enforcement is trying to get to the bottom of right now, because they've heard all of this stuff too. I guarantee you, they've interviewed the guy from the New York Post, they've interviewed the guy from the Minneapolis paper that wrote the obit. They're looking at all of this. And so, you might as well know what they're looking at. And they're sitting there trying to find this particular naturalization certificate. And if Elon doesn't have it and they don't have it, well, then boom, presto. I'm sorry, but you are done. The naturalize and deport, it's gonna happen. I mean, I don't know how else to say that. You know, we talk a lot about our immigration here. By the way, subscribe. If you haven't, remember subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. Did you see what's been going on? You probably have, because I've talked about it a lot, but things are heating up. In fact, they're preparing for more protests in Europe over the weekend in France. I mean, it's a mess there. Just look at what was going on. This is from a couple days ago. And they're nervous about what's going to happen this weekend. These are the protesters. These are the students, right, that are just mad that they don't have better schools. Give me a break. So I see a few too many Palestinian flags, frankly, for me to think that this is some kind of just purely organic movement, although I know they like to protest in France. So anyway, this has been going on. This is from a couple of days ago. This is in Paris. And right now they're worried about additional protests coming over the weekend. So these things have been really heating up. Don't forget they've had a huge problem with their welfare and their immigration challenges in Europe. And they don't have a Donald Trump. I mean, maybe they'll get Marie Le Pen. The Marie Le Pen doesn't have to say the fiscal responsibility that might help them. So, you know, you can see from that scene there, but the police are trying to keep us under control. I'm seeing a lot of young men. I mean, is it me? I'm looking at a lot of young men here. They've got tear gas that they're trying to use to control the crowds. And this is just developed into a massive problem. But I'll tell you what's fascinating right now is I actually think that it's coming to a head. And the entire European Union is now being put in a very very fragile state. I mean, frankly, I've always thought it was in a rather fragile state because to me, you can't have all of these different countries. You just can't. It's never going to work because they've got to assume financial responsibility for all of these different cultures that have all of these different languages that, you know, I've really are kind of operating in a different way. So this is what's going on. And then as we look at Paris right now, you've got basically boarding up with the shopholders, putting all of the screens down on their stores, metal shields basically, because they're concerned about looming and they're concerned about problems coming into the weekend. They are preparing for more protests there. And it all comes as we come to this realization that the EU is kind of done in over. I want to show you what the German chancellor, you know, I'd like to call him Fred Mertz. Friedrich Mertz, he is the chancellor of Germany. And Freddie, Fred, has basically given up on the EU. I'm like, whoa, whoa, this was just today. He's like, yeah, actually, maybe it was yesterday. The days are all kind of running in together. What can I say? So this week, the German chancellor is like, the EU is a failed experiment. Failed, I could have told you that. I've been saying this forever. I just never, it sounds good in principle. The problem is the free loaders, right? The darn free loaders. And right now, we got them in France and they're just racking up the debt. And they don't seem to care. And they're basically bankrupt, okay? Their debt to GDP is so out of whack. Well, at least Vidal, who is the AFD's head, right? She's the conservative group. I like to, I mean, it's terrible what they say about them. They like to compare into the Nazis. And it's so ridiculous because she's, first of all, for whatever it's worth, she's gay. Like, she has a female partner and they're raising kids together. She's an economist by background. She's worked all over the world. She worked for Goldman Sachs. I'm sorry, but this lady is not where you're trying to make her to be, but it doesn't stop them from trying. Anyway, she's like, are you kidding me? You think we're gonna take on France? Watch. Certainly we're going to have a bond market crisis. An interview has come out with Marie Le Pen. I should say, this is an interview in the economist that she did and she's talking about a bond market crisis because there is no way that the EU is gonna be able to absorb all of France's debts. And she is arguing for more ECB financing of infrastructure projects and so forth. And it's so cheap for France. She is leading in the polls too. She may well become president of France. What is a Europe going to look like? If you're leading it with your views and Marie Le Pen is leading it with her views. Germany is the main financier of the EU and France receives the money as well as other countries. Of course, she wants to, from her perspective, I would do the same thing. She wants to do the best thing for a country. She wants to have free debt financing. Even though France is already in a huge debt crisis, like with skyrocketing interest rates, I don't know what they're going to do at the capital markets, right? But Germany already is in the same situation, almost in the same situation. Our state debt is skyrocketing. Isn't there a risk that as financial markets digest what you're saying and what she's saying that Europe really does have a bond market crisis? Oh, certainly. So with such a high state debt and it's not only France, it's also Italy, Spain, Portugal, and it's also Germany. So with this new debt program of Germany, we already have rising interest rates at the capital market. And we are also a indebted country. Yeah, so it's a very interesting interview. You can check it out on the economist. Bottom line there is she's like, we can't take on the responsibilities for France. Like, this is their problem. So you understand the entire issue with the EU is that all they want to do one is give out welfare to invite everyone in and three regulate and regulate and regulate some more, right? Like they're not about creating anything. They just want to spend money, which is why Elise is calling up France. They want to spend money, hit the debt market. She's like, the markets aren't going to take it. You can't keep spending all this money, like it's nuts. And you keep bringing all these people in and keep giving them all this free stuff. And like, hey, we've been there too, right? We get it. We know what she's talking about. And then you go to all the regulation, regulation, regulation. They don't want anything created. They just want to regulate and they want to take, I mean, they are going down a communist path. And so this is huge, huge, the chancellor of Germany. Fred Mertz, I love Lucy guy. I know, I've told you that before, but it's an easy way to remember him. His real name is Friedrich, right? And he spells Mertz a little bit differently. But here's the deal in German. It's pronounced Mertz. So we can go with it. Freddie, take it away. He's done with the EU. We are aware of those problems. Both Germany and Europe have wasted incredible potential for growth in recent years by dragging feet on reforms in necessary and excessively curtailing entrepreneurial freedoms and personal responsibility. We are going to change that now. Security and predictability take precedence over excessive regulation and misplaced perfection. We must reduce bureaucracy substantially in Europe. The single market was once created to form the most competitive economic area in the world. But instead, we have become the world champion of over regulation. That has to end. Yes, it does. But you know what it's taking for him to come to this realization? He's got to have a least vital hot on his trail, right? With AFT climate, climate, climate, climate in the polls, even though he's a good, never work with her. Never work with the AFT, the AFT, they like to equate them with Hitler, OK? Like I'm sorry. And we've seen that movie here before, too. This is a tactic that they use. But I'm sorry, like you guys, you are regulating yourselves out of existence. You are spending yourselves out of existence. You are inviting all of these people in that can't contribute to your economy. It is your own damn fault, OK? Your own damn fault. And now you're in a bit of a predicament once again because you get the Ukraine situation going on. And the President of the United States keeps begging you. Would you please stop with you? Can we find a solution here, right? And they don't seem to want one. They're all about Ukraine. Well, everybody except for, you know, maybe-- I don't know where Marie Le Pen comes out on that. I know Elise Vidal wants nothing to do with this because they can't afford it, OK? You guys got to prioritize stuff at some point. Ukraine wants more cash, by the way. Donald Trump is like, no, I got to show you what he said on Newsmax because he's just like, man, he's done with Zelansky. He's like, we need elections. We need to move on. He is not good for the people. You get people dying over there. All the young men are dying. At one point, the deaths hit 50,000. I can't even imagine. In a month, I mean, it's just awful. So here he is on Ukraine. And I'll show you the other sound, but in just a second. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - You said, "Ruckey, are you free to agree to a ceasefire?" But both sides say they have not agreed to that. - Well, they agreed, you know why? Because I said, you agree. That's why. They agreed because I said they agreed. And that thing has to get settled. That war is a disaster. - I kind of like how he's showing him who's boss. They agreed because I said they agreed, right? But he wants to make sure that we got diesel, right? Because diesel is really expensive. And Russia's got diesel. So he's willing to do a deal with Russia to get the diesel over here and to get the diesel onto the world markets. And what is Zelensky? Do Zelensky runs out and starts bombing all the refinery facilities in Russia for the diesel. Well, Donald Trump doesn't appreciate that. And that's part of his message that he's sending. But before we get to that, oh, give me, give me, give me. Zelensky wants more money. Something new and different. Here he is today asking Europe and the world for more cash. - The war will cost 155 billion euros next year. And we need at least 70 billion euros more from you for defense, for weapons and for our resilience. This is a realistic amount. And I ask you to find this support. It will help us hold Russia back. And there are some very simple facts. We stop most Russian assaults on the front line thanks to drones. And we cut Russian supply lines with these technologies. And our drones are helping to weaken Russia's economy. Right now, we could produce two or three times more drones, depending on the type. But we simply don't have enough money for that. It's true. Just imagine if we could put two or three times more pressure on Russia than we do to get to today. - More drones, more drones, more death, more death. Look, Elise Vital. She's just looking at it like the economist she is from the AFD saying knock it off, take it away Elise. - The Ukraine cannot win against Russia. It is impossible. Do you not think it is appropriate for Germany and for other West European countries to support a country that is a democratic country trying to defend itself against this outright aggression? - Well, it's a democratic country. him as it is. They have no elections anymore of a new president. That's a reason why the American president, he claims new elections for the president because he thinks that Zelensky is not the right person at the right time. They don't have elections right now because it's the war, but it's still, but it's still when we talk about a aggressor and someone not being a aggressor, we also criticized the Russian attack on Ukraine because Ukraine is a sovereign country, full stop, there's no discussion about it, but now we are in the state, a status quo right now, and the status quo is terrible, not only for the people dying and for the families losing their sons, and the damaging of infrastructures, refineries, skyrocketing diesel prices, and incredibly high security risk for all countries, especially European countries, so therefore we need to put this to an end. I have to judge every foreign policy of Germany is it in our national interests or is it not? The prolongation and the measures being taken by the German governments right now impose a huge risk on our country, and we think I think it is wrong to continue with a prolongation of a financing of a already lost war. The Ukraine, unfortunately, you can say, really, like the Ukraine is too small, the Ukraine cannot win against Russia, it is impossible. I just want to make sure I've understood this. Wow. Yes, that's what she's saying, okay, so she doesn't want to give any more money. She said it's kind of game over, they get to find some kind of path to peace, it's what the President of the United States has been begging for forever. He went on Newsmax last night and he's like, listen, Zelensky, like I don't think he's the best leader for Ukraine right now. What? They're losing on average 25,000 now that number is going up to 32,000, but 25,000 mostly men, mostly military, you know, small numbers relatively in towns and cities that are being hit, but they're losing a tremendous amount of people, and I want to see it stop, and I want Zelensky to stop, and I want Putin. Now, if you tell me that Zelensky is again shooting at refineries, all he's doing is making the world oil price higher. And he is doing that. Well, I think that's a disgrace of you. There's plenty of other targets. They don't have to hit. There are a lot of targets that you can hit, but when you shoot a diesel refineries where you make, you know, diesel, and we need that, and the world needs that, then he's not doing a good service for the world. Mr. President, and I think that frankly, Zelensky has been there a long time, and I think it's time for it, if they want to get that settled. So I watched an interview of a young woman the other day from Ukraine, and she said, "President Zelensky has destroyed our country. President Zelensky has taken our men away from us. Our men have no legs, no arms, our men are in many cases in mental institutions, or they're dead." He said they need a two-month pause to hold elections. Wow. So he wants Zelensky out. Zelensky was already all over the airwaves recently saying, "How dare you? How dare you?" Right? Like, we'll decide. And we need two months. And, you know, this is the problem if you would. What incentive does he have to end this war? If there's so much money coming in, and I'm just saying, like, you know, somebody in our CIA probably has a good track on this. They ought to be looking at whether there's any corruption going on there, because I know we had to get rid of two of their defense heads. You know, the two of the defense guys wound up having to leave the country because we found they were stealing. And I'm told, "Oh, that's just kind of how business works over there." All right. Well, sure, Zelensky's not doing that, but somehow I think his entire reason for existence is now this war. So is he properly incentivized to seek peace? And you listen to Videla. I mean, she's a realist if I ever heard one. She's like, "You know what? Russia's never gonna lose this. Like, you guys just have to kind of own up to this is the reality." And it is what it is, right? Because Russia, don't forget, they don't want NATO coaching in on their territory. And when you look at the number of NATO countries, I don't have it off the top of my head, but we've talked about it before. Yeah, it has swollen massively from what it originally was intended to be. So what is the solution here? It's to work out some kind of peace agreement. And yet I don't think you have a willing partner there in Zelensky when it comes to getting that result. And so therein lies the problem. And it's gonna continue to cost Europe money. And it's gonna continue to cost us money. And the president's like, "No, because not only is it costing us money, you're now costing me big time with the darn diesel for goodness sakes." Speaking of diesel, speaking of the Middle East, that brings us to, "Gosh, did you guys, did you see what he said about this?" I think it was from last night. He said that the war's gonna end when he wants the war to end. "The Iran war will end very soon. It's gonna end very soon. Soon as I want it to end, it'll end." Which probably means after the election. So this became an issue. The war became a big issue in a recent debate between Cory Booker, the Democrat Center from New Jersey, and his competitor, a guy I had never seen before named Justin Murphy. And wow, wow, wow. I mean, you just gotta see him. Okay, so this guy, Justin Murphy, he's like, "Come on out of the blue. I'm like, where the heck was he?" Like, why have we never heard of him? He's talented. He's really, I mean, I thought so. I'm watching this thing. I put a clip out of it saying, "Where's the Republican Party been hiding him?" And this thing like collectively has just gotten millions and millions and millions of views. But let me show you the sound by and I get a special treat. Okay, stay with me. You're gonna like this one. Promise. That's right. President Trump calls you and says, "I'll do whatever you want. What do I do in our Iran? What's your answer?" Finish it. Finish that war in a positive manner. We can't wait halfway through and decide we don't want to do this anymore. The Iranian, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is a radical terrorist organization that has deprived the Iranian people and the Persian people of their history and of a decent life. They have murdered, raped, tortured, assassinated, promoted, and promoted terrorism all throughout the world, especially in the region of the Middle East. They are a cancer on human existence. Our remember as a young boy watching, I was was of our November 1979 watching the radical Islamic terrorist storm over the walls of our embassy and 52 Americans held for 444 days. And ever since November of 79, the IRGC in Iran has done nothing but export terror, murder, oppression, and assassination to the region and to the world in its time. It stops. Four decades is enough. The Iranian people have suffered enough and I would say, "Mr. President, put your cowboy hat on and get out there and kick some ass and get this done and done right." I am so happy to welcome to the Trish Regan Show, Justin Murphy, joining us from Tabernacle, New Jersey in the house he grew up in. Gosh, that was dynamite the other night. Hey Trish, how are you? And my campaign can't thank you enough for having us on. You make this a wonderful experience for campaign and thank you. It's great to be here and talk to your audience and never scripted. It's, you know, I speak to people and I took a page out of President Regan's book for advice. You just talk to people. Share what's in your heart. And I met what I said, said by mement. As 60 years old, I've lived through an adult life of the IRGC and the Iranian Mullahs doing nothing but harassing the civilized world and murdering their own people and exporting terror and murder and destabilizing the Middle East. And I just shot from the hip. It was unscripted and it just went crazy. No, it really did. I mean, I shared a clip of it with my audience and it racked up millions of views. I mean, across the various channels, it's well over 10 million right now. And everybody kept saying, "Hey, you got to get them on." I'm like, "You better believe I got to get them on." And so I'm happy to have you here as well. I don't know anything. One of the points that I made was gosh darn it. Where has the Republican Party been hiding there? Because he's good, right? Like we need more people that can speak from the hip like that that understand the issues, the nuances. And yet, you know, we haven't heard about you. You've been in New Jersey against this Cory Booker who, by the way, couldn't answer the question at all and like completely pivoted to something else entirely. But, you know, attacking Donald Trump and energy prices, whereas you just went straight for it. And that was refreshing to see. It was authentic. And so I want to know a little bit more about you. I think everybody's like, "Where did he come from?" And I read that you started out in the military. You enlisted at age 17, Justin. And listed at age 17. I was raised by a single mom in this home here. And I said, "Mom, I know I'm just. " I've been very fortunate in my life to always know the direction of my life. Not what the outcome might be, but always to know, innately, I've always had good direction in my life. And I said, "Mom, I want to be The President's on day, animal rights. I'm going to join the military after high school and she said, being 17, needed a parent to sign until she said, "Well, I wanted to be a Marine." She says, "I'm not signing for the Marines. I'll sign for the Navy, but not the Marines. The Marines scared her a little bit." We, I enlisted, did four years, came out and began studying political science here in South Jersey at Glassboro State College, which is now our own university and went into small business. I've been a small business and self-employed on my life. I went off college and law school and politics and, you know, we just, we did life, but yeah, we enlisted at 17 and quite an experience. Amazing. Amazing. And why go into politics? How did that, what was the calling there? I mean, it sounds like you knew way back when, before you enlisted, you had big aspirations, but how did that all come about? I just, I don't know, I mean, as far as an algorithm, I couldn't give you one, but it's just been, I say, God has blessed me with this dream, that He's God has instilled this dream and passion in me to seek office, serve the country, federal office, serve in the military. And it's just, I've been very comforted in my life to know, I mean, we all have difficult times, but just to know the direction of my life and know that God is guiding me as a wonderful feeling and it inspires me with confidence and I hope that shows and my answers. And it's just something I've always had innate in me. It's not like I, you know, lived a life and said, Hey, I need a new career at 40 or 50. I'm going to try my run of politics. I've always known where my passion and heart is and then I followed it. You're in a tough state. Cool. One of the reasons I think that you kind of sprung up out of nowhere on all of us is nobody was watching the New Jersey Senate race because, you know, it's, well, I don't know, we've never, in my lifetime, seen a Republican that's won a New Jersey Senate. So I think that, you know, people just figure out, you know, whatever we write that one off, we're not going to spend any money. I think, times are changing and that may change in the future. But what's your thought on, you know, you probably run in a shoestring campaign? To say the least, although since the debate, we've gotten a few shackles in. I want to thank everyone for their devotion and donating. It's really been wonderful to see. Trish, when I speak to people and during the primary, during the general election, I tell them I say, listen, yes, we haven't elected a Republican from New Jersey in the US Senate since 1972 and we're outnumbered by 900,000 more registered Democrats than Republicans. There's a true statistics and we have some uphill battles here. But I tell people, there's good news here. Number one, there are the most registered Republicans in New Jersey now in the history of America. We have almost 1.7 million. And I always point to Donald Trump, who came to New Jersey one time in 2024, came to the beaches in Wildwood. I hold a great rally. I was there as a candidate from the US Senate primary then. He never came back, unfortunately, but yet that November of '24, he took almost two million votes out of New Jersey. And that's the most the Republican presidential candidate has ever taken out of New Jersey in the history of our country. So we're battling, we're growing, we're doing a lot of good things. We still have some stiff headwinds, but I always like to be that confident, optimistic, Reagan, Gloria, I'm a Reagan Republican, so I always know there's a better tomorrow for our country. You really inspired people with your thoughts on Iran. We're in this situation now. And from everything I've learned, we kind of had to be in this situation because the alternative would have been that much worse. But you offered a path forward that I think was pretty exciting to people because you want this finished. When you say you want this finished, what does that mean? Finish, yeah. Well, one is acknowledging that peace has achieved only through strength. And just real quick, on last night we had a great town hall in Bergen County, was our most well-attended town hall and people of Persian and Iranian descent were there to support Maine, it was just wonderful to see. There's a dirty word here at Trish and we are going to have to get over being uncomfortable with it's called regime change. You cannot go through this and leave the IRGC and some fragmented state or the fragmented pieces of what's left of that government. We need regime change, the Iranian people need regime change, the civilized world needs it and the Middle East needs it. And what we need to do is get something situated, okay, and it might be the Shah's son and there is a transitionary figure, but we need to let the Persian and Iranian people self-determined. And that's the goal here. We've destroyed their nuclear weapons program, we've destroyed their ballistic missile capability, we've destroyed the defense industry, the Air Force and neighbors destroyed. And despite what you hear, oil is flowing out of the straights of our muos, okay, it is not controlled by Iran, that's a complete falsehood. You can put that in a column of Donald Trump colluded with Russia, it's not true. Oil is getting out. We need to do a number of things to stabilize that area, it's a war, it's uncomfortable. We also need to increase our own country's domestic refining capacity. We have a little bit of disparity between the energy we produce and there are refining capacity. We need that parity there so we don't have to send oil overseas like we do now to certain refineries to bring it back to us. That's what's driving the price and the volatility in the oil markets. But you know, finish it means look, it's regime change. I mean, we can't go through this and think for a second that the IRGC or the radical mullus, whatever left of them, can be trusted. Whether that anything they signed that they'll adhere to, they won't. We know that. They're liars, they're thugs, they're creeps, they're murderers, they're killers, they're radical Islamic terrorists. We have no common ground with them as Americans. We never have it, never will. So it's about regime change and I would trust that there's probably a lot that's going on behind the scenes that I can't see. I'm only limited to open source, obviously, I think the Trump administration understands that and there could be a lot going on that we don't see to help effectuate that. But it does have to be regime change. That's the only way to do this. I mean, if we're going to promise the next generation of Americans that you're not going to ever have to say the word straights, if our mu is again, we need to deal with this now and we have to deal with it, we get the root of the problem and rip it out of the ground. Yeah. Now, look, I was just saying this the other day, I can remember, I can't remember what year it was like in various, at various times in my career, standing in front of whether a CMBC or Bloomberg, a map of straight or a mouse. Nobody wants to have to keep standing in front of that map or talking about it, and what is the solution to that? What you're talking about, though, is big in that the shot of the sun doesn't have a solution to M.E.K. I know some of those folks over there, they don't have a military solution, right? So that's us, because nobody like that idea, either, Justin. I think when we talk about military, there's a lot we can do, right now, we haven't invaded Iran, but my opponent used that word here at the night, we do not have boots on the ground, we haven't invaded Iran, we're using standoff platforms from Naval and Air Forces to achieve our objectives. Yeah, I mean, I look at slick and difficult, there's nothing clear cutting easy about it, but when you look at the idea would be to get your Sunni Muslim nations in the literal Gulf countries on board, which I think President Trump has done. And then we can get the Iranian people on our side, of course, they are. Then you've got the IRGC, and the mall is there, isolated, and that's the first step, isolate them, okay, so that they can't continue to spread the hate and destabilization, so you isolate them. And then you get rid of them, however you can. And right now, I couldn't tell you the best way to do that, is that arming certain groups of Iranian people to remove IRGC, yes, it might be, I mean, it should be on the table. And most importantly, even if we don't use that option, put it on the table and let them know that it's an option for us, you know, let them, don't start telling people we're going to do this and not do that, and that's the wrong way to approach this. You let your enemy believe that you have every weapon at your disposal, and you might use them, whatever might be necessary. So putting the show, I mean, you need a transition government. We've been through this before in Iraq and rough waters for sure, but eventually we got it settled down, and that's a success story, I believe it's not a utopia by any stretch, it was a success story. And you know, we've rebuilt countries before, and I don't mean by the trillions of dollars, but we have to remove that cancerous element that is causing such harm throughout the region and world, then you can begin the peaceful rebuild with the Persian people and the Iranian people self-determining, and that's ultimately where you want to be. Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, I look at Venezuela, right, because Venezuela is a good sort of comparison if you would, but vastly different. So we kept Delcy Rodriguez in there, and I know Delcy, I've interviewed her a couple times over the years, and she's like hardcore socialist, okay, so that's not really going to change, but I think part of the methodology there was we can't have too much drastic change, we can't have elections just yet. They needed the military, like if I'm going to be honest, I think that the U.S. looked at it and said, well, you know what, Delcy's got the military in her back pocket. And so they will support her. If we completely, you know, take her out and, you know, Maria Kruehn and Machado were to come in and we have elections, whatever, and there's no military support, that's going to be a problem. And the difficulty now is that was so good, right, and it's been run so well and it's working out for everybody. We're going to oil out of there and, hey, you know, I'm all for it because I'm like, listen, they need the investment down there. It's going to be a better quality of living for everybody in Venezuela. That's good for us because we're going to get the oil out of there. They're right here in the hemisphere, Monroe Doctrine. I love it. But then when I look at Iran, it's so different because, you know, for starters, you've got this religious overlay, right, they don't have that in Venezuela. And there's this desire to cling to this religious political aspect. of the theology which is in my book going to make it very difficult to ever come to some kind of sensible business arrangement. All of my sources have said to me over the years, "Delce is very pragmatic." Okay, in Venezuela. Very pragmatic. I don't think realism is really governing what the mullahs and the IRGC are deciding in Iran and that's kind of where this breakdown keeps happening again and again and again and again. I agree. There is that component with Iran now begin but we have to realize too that if you look at the vast majority of the Iranian people and the Persian people, they're not buying this mullah Islamic 12th Imam apopopolectic event, but you know, causing this 12th Imam to come back from a cataclysmic event. I don't think they're buying into that. So I think that there is opportunity, okay, for the Iranian people to self-determine and can maybe keep a little on that. Now we saw what happened in the 70s and from the 50s to the 70s, you had the kind of the the theocracy was really given birth by some excesses of the Shah and some suppression and that just didn't work out too well. So let's learn from our past for one thing. We've got a history there to learn from and build on, but you're right about the religious aspect and it's really self-determination, I think, and if we can do that, the Iranian people don't want what the mullahs have given them since 1979. And I think that's our kind of our Trump card, not the pun intended. That's our ace in the hole. It's that they don't want what the mullahs are offering. It's a known, it's not an unknown. It's hey, okay, we've had 40 years of this of being slaughtered in the streets and put in prison and women in burqas and acid thrown on their face and homosexual stoned a death, and they don't want it. And that's where we can strike with the hot iron, so to speak. And that's our case and the reigns. The people, the people are not in favor of this. Let me ask you about what's going on here in American politics. I can tell you, like, I'm a little disturbed because this is the first time in my career that I think, you know, you've had somebody up on stage, such as El Said in Michigan refusing to call out Iran as an enemy. I'm like, okay, what kind of history? Real world are we in now? And increasingly, I'm hearing sort of that the US is the bad guy, right? That we brought all this on. And there's this desire to really kind of paint the US as the problem child in the rest of the world. And interestingly, you know, look, we're all immigrants, right? You sound like you have an Irish name. I'm Irish. Murphy Irish Irish English. It's English. Okay. But we're all somewhere. And it's what makes us phenomenal as a country, but we all come together, right? And we take the best parts of our culture and our heritage, and we bring it together to have something uniquely American. The challenge I worry about right now is that you've got a lot of people coming into the political arena that really seem to have an idea that's very, in my view, anti-American. Socialism, communism to me is not the American way. That is not why this country was founded. It was founded on very capitalist, freedom-oriented beliefs. And so when I look around the room these days out in Michigan or in Minnesota or, you know, even Talleriko down in Texas, gosh, and it's Texas. I don't quite know how to interpret all that. I see Obama over in Ireland throwing shade. It is real. I see Kamala Harris throwing a lot of shade while in Korea. And it seems as though they're giving this movement that is more aligned, frankly, with Iran than American capitalism, some oxygen. Yeah. Well, to get an A-plus, you get an A-plus stretch for identifying the problem for what it is. And it's exactly what it is. And I speak on this too. I see number one, if, you know, the Democrat Party today is no longer the party of FDR or JFK. It's the party of the DSA. It's no longer the party of the little guy, the blue collar worker, the World War II, depression, or a blue collar Democrat. That party's long gone. We know what they are. Their mask is off. And the reason their mask is off is they were so emboldened with Obama's win in 2008. They thought that they are going to completely, radically transform this country. And no one could stop them. The Republicans democratically couldn't win. And Obama's going to be popular and up to win two terms. Then we got two terms for Hillary. And then Donald Trump came along and said, oh, no, think again. And that's why they're so angry and upset right now. But, you know, it is tough to watch. I mean, but you look at this party and they've clearly untethered themselves from anything that is connected to our country. It's findings, it's belief in its people, our direction, what we were, what we are, and what our vision is. As a country, where do we want to go? And one thing I've been doing on the campaign trail is expanding the canyon-sized difference between the vision, between the Republican Party offers and the vision the Democrat Party is offering. They're running on hate for Donald Trump, hate for ICE, hate and contempt for America, vilification of our law enforcement community. We're offering that better, Reagan-esque tomorrow that we're living today. Highest median household income, secure border declining crime rates, declining criminal rates, booming stock market, a million private sector jobs created, a million Americans entering the workforce last month alone. 162,000 jobs created in August, 98% of them went to women. That's called empowerment. You know, we've got the highest median income level. We've lowest poverty rate in our country's history, lowest childhood poverty rate in our country's history and rising wages for the middle class. Yeah, we've got issues we always have and always will. But, you know, a 3.5% inflation rate compared to the 9% rate that Joe Biden gave you. Yeah, let's we have to make sure that people don't forget that and 8% interest rates and open border and declining wages. That's the Biden years. So what you're looking at the Democrat Party today is, yes, it's unfiltered hate and contempt for America because that's who they are. Their mask is off. You know, they, they, I mean, and they feel emboldened and they feel that there's enough people out there to keep them in office if they keep preaching their their wild hate contempt toward this country. I kind of feel like Democrats lost their way badly. I mean, you said it earlier, right? It's not the party of JFK. It's not the party of FDR and they they had some identity and a long came Donald Trump and what was fascinating about him and I said it from the day he walked down that escalator, right? I was like, this is a guy who does not care about party. I mean, he was a registered Democrat, right? In New York City. Yeah. All he cares about is what he cares about, right? So he's got his issues, which are very much pro America, pro middle class, pro capitalism, pro security. And these are the fun. That's his foundation. Doesn't matter what party it's in. So at the time, if you think back on it, I mean, Barack Obama had exported more illegal aliens than any other president, right? That was sort of the Democrat's thing. And you go back, you can play the tape we have. They were all talking about how you couldn't come and die in Feinstein. I got a great one from the late Feinstein who said, you're not going to come. We're not going to be Mexico's welfare program. I mean, this was the Democrats, okay? So something, you know, the minute Donald Trump said, this is what I care about, they went the opposite way. So this kept happening over and over and over again. And he kind of ate their lunch. I mean, which is why the union workers were not supporting Kamala Harris. They were supporting Donald Trump. So the whole model got turned upside down. And so instead of being smart and saying, what are the things we really care about that we passionately believe would be the best for the growing of this overall economy, the best for the middle class. You know, we can't have this hourglass with a whole bunch on the bottom coming in across the border, given them the freebies and then the big guys on the top and the people working day in and day out to just have a better future for themselves and their kids. They're the ones I call it the hour glass economy. They get squeezed. And so they ignored that. Donald Trump did not. And so he reinvented in I would still say the flavor of Ronald Reagan, the Republican party. So now you get this mega movement that's picking off all the people that feel disenfranchised from the Democrats who only had one answer for everything. We hate Trump. We hate Trump. We hate Trump. We hate Trump. We hate Trump. We hate Trump. We hate Trump. That's all we heard, right? So anything that he came up with, he can find the cure for cancer tomorrow. It doesn't matter, you know, because it's true. And so that gave the entry point in my book for DSA or socialism for communism. Yeah, there was an opening there for sure. And Trump did rearrange American politics. There's no doubt about it. And you know, when I speak to people, those are the words I use. The left is offering their vision of America is hating Donald Trump. That's it. And then if they get a little creative, they'll hate ICE, they'll abolish your border. They want to defund the police and replace police with social workers and abolish prisons. But that was the opening. And you know, he took the, I know we could win. And remember what he thought I was nuts. I said, he's going to win. He's going to win Michigan. And he's going to win Ohio. And he's going to win some of these Great Lakes states. And people thought I was nuts. I said, you don't understand how angry middle class blue collar workers are. They feel they've been abandoned. And they were. And they have been. And they have been flocking to the GOP. And that's why I say now we're pretty comfortably the party of the blue collar worker, not all of them, but many. The unions really public employee unions are still with the Democrat party. But you know, that's exactly the way to do it. And there's such a dichotomy here. And I tell people, what the left is offering, okay, as a tomorrow is so vastly different than what the Republicans are offering and there was a time a few decades ago where Republicans at the Democrats, liberal conservative generally agreed on what our tomorrow should be. We disagreed on how to get there. Now it's a completely chasm has been blown wide open and the DSA is, unfortunately, they use social media effectively. They're getting to some young people, which is extremely dangerous. Last night when I was speaking in Bergen County, I said, "We as a country, familial units, grandparents and parents as society, we need to make sure our young people do not fall for the demonic cancerous life, socialism. Ask a young person why the Berlin Wall fell and they couldn't tell you what the Berlin Wall was because they're being indoctrinated, school not educated, but you're absolutely right, though. Those are the themes I hit, and we're just hoping we get enough people with an antenna that's up and responsive for November 3rd that we don't lose control of their house." I think we will. So here's, given what I just said, and I think you agree with the premise there, so you've got radicalism taking over. I think the rest, so what happened? Maybe people that hate Trump go out and vote, and they vote blue, and they go radical, but I still think there's a large swath of people, both in the middle and on the right that don't want the craziness of the destruction of what could come if we were to pivot and go in that kind of direction. So I don't know if these people answer polls. I know I don't. We'll get a call at the house. I'm like, "How did you get my number?" I don't answer polls, and this is in part because I think that as conservatives, we get kind of, you know, heck, the Treasury just came out with a report yesterday from the OCC that the debanking thing was real, right, that they were actually, I mean, I know a ton of people that lost their bank accounts. My husband and I have had an accountant city for 30 years, we never got so many calls as we did. During the four years Biden was off in office, they kept saying, "We need to know that customer." I'm like, "You know me, you know me for 30 years." So that's the danger, right, like you're up against a community that will want to take everything you have and redistribute it to everyone else. I'm sorry. That's their mantra. And two, shut you off if you dare to say boo. Trish, the words, correct, I agree, and what I tell people is, you know, the Democrat Party demonstrated clearly under the Biden administration that they will not hesitate to use the power of government to punish their political opponents. I remind people all the time on a Catholic. I was raised Catholic at Central Part of my life. Don't forget under the Biden administration and his FBI and DOJ that they were actively recruiting Catholics out of Catholic churches to spy on other Catholics because, of course, pro-life Catholics are the domestic terrorists that we all need to worry about. And that is the most egregious violation of religious freedom, freedom of conscience, our first amendments and abuse of power. He should have been impeached over it. I mean, the outrage there, I were outnumbered in the state. There are literally 900,000 more registered Democrats than there are Republicans in New Jersey. So, but, you know, the good news is, is there are voters out there, if it's mechanical at this point to get through to the polls, we can do well, we can change the landscape of the state. It's a heavy lift. But, you know, we try to keep people inspired and excited and we'll keep at it, which is, you never give up. We'll stay part of the conversation. We value all your inputs. We'll have you back on because regardless of what happens, I think, Justin, I said it the other day, I'm like, "This guy's going places. Keep an eye. New Jersey found a winner, okay?" Well, thank you so much. That's a good thing. We look forward to seeing you. By the way, if somebody wants to learn more about your campaign, where can they go? Oh, please go to Jersey, Justin number four, you don't spot for Jersey, Justin, four senate.org, and we have links there to all of our social media platforms, our events pages that we're going to be running very hard to November 3rd, and, you know, we'll, we'll see how we do. We'll put in God's hands, and if it's meant to be, it will happen. Thank you so much. We'll see you soon. Thank you, God bless you, Trish. Thank you. Great, can I just say, like, I actually, I consider myself a pretty good judge of, quote unquote, talent, right? This is what I've, the business I've been in for a while. So when I saw that clip of the Jersey debate, I was like, where has this guy been? Like, we really need, so I, you know, it's a tough race because New Jersey is a tricky one, right? Let's face it. And it's kind of a lock for the Democrats, and I think that's why we hadn't seen him, but I hope we see more of him. We'll certainly get him back on the show. He's got some really definitive views on Iran and overall, you know, the economy, et cetera. So we're going to hear more from Justin Murphy. Remember that name? You can go check out his website. And now, yeah, I wasn't kidding. You know, Elon Musk has created the world's first flying car. He told Joe Rogan that he was going to do this like eight years ago. He said, I really, really want to have a flying car. And then, last night, he went live and said this, are you going to see some crazy stuff tonight? Like, we need an audience to prove that it's not AI or SI. So you guys can tell people you sort with your eyes because what you see with your eyes, you will not believe. No, you won't believe it. Okay. In fact, I showed it to one of my kids and they're, mom, it's AI. It's AI. I'm like, no, Elon's their live. Anyways, kind of funny because the Democrats hate him so much, right? They did test Elon Musk because he is well, let's face it, a formidable opponent. So it's sort of funny because the memes are going around right now with AOC and Gavin and the rest of them like this, you know, she really, she belongs back in the, in the bartending gig, if you ask me. This dude is probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met or seen, our witness. Really? Yeah, you know, and not to be outdone, Gavin had this to say. Elon Musk, one of the great disappointments, he's going to allow the greatest on goal in, I think one of the most significant on goals in the next decade is seeding the EV space to China. Elon was the one accelerating that. Now he's put the brakes on his own innovation. Gavin, I'm sorry, just give it up, right? Just give it up. Anyway, these guys, they hate Elon Musk because Elon Musk kind of likes Trump. In fact, the boys are back together, right? He had Elon there at the big she dinner when China was in town and he's giving a lot of money for midterms. It's one of the reasons why Republicans actually have more cash on hand right now. I mean, they kind of dwarf the blue and I keep saying, do not count Republicans out, right? We've got a couple of weeks to go here and it's going to be happening. Anyway, regardless of that, this is just a really, really cool car. So it's called the roadster. It's going to price somewhere around 200 grand. So not cheap, but you got to see it, like you just have to see it to believe it. I'll let Elon take it away. I took a little excerpt from what he had to say last night and it's pretty cool. You know, when I suggested this to the team, I thought, am I crazy? Maybe too. Maybe a little bit. Exactly. Am I crazy? Not at all. 100% sane. And then things kind of built upon themselves and we're like, well, maybe we could do a little more of this and roll more of that. And I think what you'll see here, by the way, success is not guaranteed. So I want to, you know, I mean that. It will probably work, but if it doesn't work, we're at a safe distance. And excitement is 100% guaranteed. Yeah, let's let's take it to a limit and we pass the limits. All right, guys, we got 10 seconds. Perfect. Should we sit down? Four. Three, two, one. Yeah. This is so cool, guys. This is so cool. I had to take the music out because there's like coffee right restrictions. But look at this. Look at it. Oh my gosh. So again, my kids are like, Mom, come on. It's AI. It's AI. It's AI. Don't you know better? I'm like, no, no, no. This was live on stage. It's amazing. Amazing. It's actually kind of a pretty looking car, too. Wow. So he's got some kind of special suction technology and he's using like air pressure. It was some of the technology that they, they took from SpaceX. It's incredible. Okay, and my joke is like, before we're going to want to get in car crashes, just to see how does this thing work, right? You're going to be able to take your car to some kind of off-road facility and just do these loop deloops all the time. It was incredible. The crowd loves it. That's not the last thing you'll see, by the way. To do that, we have a suction, a fan suction system on the bottom of the car that can pull up to two minutes. In order to make the car go upside down, and then we borrowed some technology from SpaceX to do the rest. Yeah, I mean this car really sucks. This car could suck the chrome of a trailer hitch. Now you might say like how often do you want to stick upside down in a car? Maybe not that often, but it actually has this, an actual benefit on the track or just driving where the downforce of the car means you can corner incredibly well. Like you can corner like it looks like you're breaking physics. Because the car sticks to the ground so hard. So acceleration and cornering, it's going to crush every track record that has ever existed. This is just incredible, right? I mean he is just an amazing, amazing innovator, such a brilliant person. And he kind of explains, I mean you heard a little bit about the suction, right? Well what about the air and what about the SpaceX technology that they borrowed from? He explains a little bit of that here all. I'll let him do it because he's going to be a lot better at it than me. The car has obviously attitude control thrusters and main thrusters in the rear. So it can basically fly like a rocket. And it could do rolls, it could do like crazy gymnastics. Whatever you want really. Now I should say that this is not necessarily a safety optimized car. But it takes the fun meter to 11 out of 10. It's just really, really, really awesome. I mean it's incredible what he's been able to accomplish. And we're again looking at it. It's really, I mean it's, it's like the future is here guys. Like everything's changing all of a sudden so fast. It makes me feel like I remember my parents would be like, oh you know, and the ice man used to come and deliver the ice. And they told me all these stories and they walked a mile or two miles to school every day and back. Because they didn't have a car like all of this stuff. And you think about all the changes and conveniences with technology that we have now. It's just sort of incredible. And Elon is sort of saying, hey, you know, the best is yet to come. He has a lot of thoughts about what happens with AI and how it's going to change our lives in ways that we can't even predict. One of his big themes is abundance, right? That you're not going to have to worry as much, which is sort of incredible. Scott Besson, Treasury Secretary of the United States was asked about this by Hannity, actually. And take a listen to this sound bite that I found last night. A terrible question. You Elon Musk gave an interview to, I believe, to the economist. And he said that in five to six years, we will have, you know, more than a, we will have five times the size of the economy we have now. And he talked about abundance. And he talked about every American having every need. And there won't be even a need to save, you know, for your retirement, like we have historically. Because of this quote, abundance that he believes AI will create. Do you believe that? I do. But I think I would change the timeline. And that I've seen Elon speak for a long time. And he is, look, his record speaks for itself, both in terms as an inventor, as a venture capitalist, you know, as a great American. But he's normally early. He's just so far ahead of the curve. He sees things that no one else sees. But I do think we are building this incredible economy that we can't even imagine. Sean, 25% of the jobs that exist today did not exist in 2000. That's an amazing thing. It is an amazing thing, right? It is an amazing, amazing, amazing thing. And it's one of the reasons I stay, you know, even though the market was tricky this week. I see very optimistic. And I think that there's going to be so much more to come. Go check out my newsletter when you can. It's 76research.com, again, 76 research, Rob and I spend it. We actually just came out with another note tonight with some investment strategy under the circumstances. And there's some opportunities out there that we like. And not necessarily the companies that you would think or the sectors you would think. So I would encourage you to go take a look at that if you could at this moment. I do want to get to some El Saeed things, but I want to take a quick moment to things to just give a plug here for Social Security. I mean, in light of Bessent saying what Bessent just said, you know, the people we elect this year are going to have a big effect right on the decisions that are made for the future of Social Security. And that's money that we earned with a lifetime of hard work. We hope we'll get it, right? Older Americans need it right now more than ever to pay for groceries and prescriptions. As you know it, you may not agree with everything AARP has to say, but they do stand up for Social Security. And you can too. So put your hand up, raise your hand as a Social Security voter, sign up at AARP.org/SocialSecurityVoter. Again, that's AARP.org. I put it on the screen. Social Security voter today. Gosh, this is a long show today. I told you it was a big one. I'm a very, very big one. We got a lot more content coming your way over the weekend. If you have not subscribed to the channel, do me the favor. Let me see if I can find my little handy-dandy subscribe button. Is it there? Is it there? Yes? What do you know? Well, presto. Okay. Thank you guys for being here for all you do to make this show a success. Remember to subscribe. Tell your friends, make a comment. Who do you think should be the next press secretary? 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Katie Zakaria was dismissed as White House press secretary after a series of poorly received interviews, particularly on Fox, where she struggled to handle tough questions about her legal credentials.
  2. The president publicly defended her, stating she was treated unfairly and emphasized his preference for someone who can handle media pressure with confidence and composure.
  3. Critics point to her lack of bar exam passage and vague explanations as key vulnerabilities, undermining her credibility as a press secretary despite her background.
  4. Her performance was seen as unprepared, with nervous delivery and a failure to demonstrate deep policy knowledge or the ability to deflect sharp media scrutiny.
  5. The dismissal appears to follow a pattern of Trump using media platforms—like Hannity’s show—to test and expose aides, suggesting a strategic, high-pressure vetting process.
  6. Alternatives like Scott Jennings and Maria Barra are being considered for the role due to their strong media presence, sharp policy knowledge, and proven ability to confront reporters.
  7. The controversy overlaps with broader concerns about media accountability, press credibility, and the challenges of managing high-stakes political communication.
  8. The situation reflects a larger dynamic where the president values assertiveness, experience, and media savvy over personal warmth or newly hired enthusiasm.

Summary:

Katie Zakaria was removed from her role as White House press secretary after a series of high-profile, poorly received interviews—particularly on Fox—where she struggled to answer tough questions about her legal background and appeared unprepared. The president publicly defended her, stating she was unfairly treated and emphasized the need for a press secretary who can confidently handle media scrutiny. Critics highlight her failure to pass the bar exam, vague explanations of her legal experience, and nervous delivery during her first briefing, undermining her credibility.

Her performance is seen as lacking the sharp policy knowledge and composure expected of a top-level press secretary. The dismissal appears to follow a pattern of Trump using media platforms to test aides, possibly signaling a deliberate strategy to eliminate underprepared hires. Alternatives such as Scott Jennings and Maria Barra are now under serious consideration due to their proven track records in media confrontations and deep policy knowledge.

The case underscores the immense pressure of the role, where a candidate must not only be knowledgeable but also resilient under intense questioning. While the president expressed sympathy for Zakaria, the decision reflects a preference for seasoned, assertive communicators who can manage media attacks effectively. The incident also highlights broader issues of media accountability and how political figures assess trust, preparation, and performance in high-stakes public roles.

FAQs

Katie Zakaria was dismissed due to a combination of factors, including media criticism over her legal credentials, a shaky performance during her first press briefing, and poor handling of questions on Fox News. Her lack of bar exam passage and unclear legal background drew scrutiny, and her inability to project confidence or handle tough questions under pressure raised concerns about her suitability for the role.

Yes, Katie Zakaria did not pass the bar exam. She attended Pepperdine Law School but did not pass the bar exam in California. She clarified that she had not retaken it, and her legal background was not rooted in active practice, which became a point of controversy during interviews.

Katie Zakaria's first press briefing lasted only 14 minutes and featured just three questions. She appeared nervous, delivered limited information, and struggled to maintain composure. Her lack of preparation and the brevity of the briefing raised concerns about her readiness for the role.

Sean Hannity gave her an opportunity to explain herself during an interview, but the appearance was widely criticized as unproductive and difficult. While Hannity did not directly cause her dismissal, the negative reception of the interview contributed to media scrutiny and may have signaled a lack of confidence in her ability to manage press challenges.

The main criticisms included her lack of bar exam credentials, nervous delivery, inability to handle tough questions, and failure to demonstrate deep policy knowledge. Critics also noted that she seemed unprepared and lacked the composure and confidence expected of a top-level press secretary.

Yes, President Trump expressed concern about how she was treated by the media and stated that she didn’t need to continue in the role. He said she wasn’t being treated fairly and suggested she should reconsider, indicating he believed she wasn’t adequately equipped to handle the demands of the job.

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