Karl Marx & His Jewish Question | History Hyenas

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Yeah. The singer just walked by. Yes. Um, so because you, you know, you sent me a text last night and you said, do you want to talk about Communism? I said, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you got into Karl Marx big. I don't know. Like I know certain things. I know kind of generally what Communism is. I understand, you know, some of the stuff Karl Marx wrote, but I don't really know much about Karl Marx and the history of it. I know a little bit about the proletariat, right? Is that the, that's our, but proletariat was your family grown up proletariat. And then what, what, what would this scumbags call the higher class? My family, the bourgeoisie. The bourgeoisie. Right. So you got the bourgeoisie. So I was a proletariat and you're the bourgeoisie. Yes. So and Karl Marx, he looks like a black kid from here. He was a little bit of a darker kid. Yeah. He was and his friends made fun of him. He was chosen. Huh? Chosen person. Well, it's very interesting. So this is going to be a fun, fun story. And we're going to talk about some things that most people don't focus on with Karl Marx. But it's perfect fodder for the history, Hyena's podcast. That's right. And let's start with that. So this is an episode that I, well, I'm going to send, I can I have this number. I'm going to text his son, Piker, this episode, this is really a lot of people love Karl Marx. Now Karl Marx, brilliant guy, you know, big fan of the German philosopher, Hegel. He was Hegelian or whatever. So what is Hegel's like? What was his thing? Hegel had the, the dialectic. It was the Hegel dialectic where he basically said all of history. You have a thesis and an antithesis. And so basically your ideas are the engine of history. You have these ideas and then those ideas present the opposite ideas and then the conflict between those ideas creates synthesis, which is something completely new. And that's the engine of history. And his name was George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, Tyson Hool, George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. Yeah, he was, he was a, he was a follower of him and then he turned Hegel on his head. But before we get to that more of the commonly known stuff, we're going to talk about some of the fun or stuff. Yeah. We like to have a little thing called fun on this topic, a little thing that Chrissy likes to call fun, fun, fun, fun, fun. Fun, fun, fun. And if you listen go to patreon.com/historanus, we put up a banger of an episode there and we talk all about the the watching the tape to the end and we talk about some new life philosophies and we talk about one of a girl that wanted to bang y'all's socks. - No, no, no, no, no. - That's gonna be on there on the 25th and it's what it is. - It is stuck in real court. - Patreon.com says history, I hate it. - That one's not going anywhere. - Yes, it's gonna do that. It's giving Jesse money onto the tape. - That is not going anywhere. - Yeah, I've told Jesse, I bought Jesse a month of free sculpture supplies. (laughing) - Yeah, that is. - Yeah. - All you gotta do is give Jesse some molding clay and he'll do what you want. - That was a true confession I made that just can never be out in the world. - It's just what it is. - I think I'm gonna have to kill Nick 'cause I said that. - By the way, what I think we're gonna start doing here on this podcast and it is kind of tight-rope walking but Twitch and live streaming has become such a big thing. I think we should start live streaming the episodes and just get in the mouth to get our Twitch numbers up. - Yeah, but then that creates a fundamental problem. - Why? - Because we push people to the Patreon so they can get early access, day early, which is what you get, add free and uncensored. So if we stream it live, then we just make our Patreon useless. - It's just, that's a good point that what you did there is. What you did there is you didn't watch it till the end. - I didn't watch it till the end. - You had an idea and you just, it just shoots out. And that's why I did that is to create an example of watching the tape to the end and why it's so important. But Hago would say, would that's the thesis? We have a Patreon, you came up with the antithesis. So if we examine the conflict between the two, we'll get synthesis, which will be something completely new. So maybe we'll do something else on Twitch. - Maybe all we could do is the first 10 minutes are on Twitch. - Something like that. - Right? - That's not a bad idea. - And get people juiced up, we get them juiced up. - Yeah. - So Karl Marx, he was born into an ethnically Jewish family. Both the mother and the father, ethnic Jews, you know, tribe members. So do you mean like secular? Like they're really weren't practicing? - Well, they were both very secular. His dad was so secular, his dad was a lawyer, his dad was so secular that he converted. He said, you know what, fuck this, from my career, I'm not dealing with this shit anymore. - I'm gonna be Catholic. - He goes, I'm just convert, he converts to Lutheranism. - Right. - And then, so Karl Marx is actually born a Lutheran, he's baptized, whatever, you know, but they're under cover Jews. - Yeah, under cover Jews. - Martin Luther, another guy, German kid, who just would not be opposed to just fucking tunin' somebody up who's not a Christian. - He, that was another thing that, yeah, he just, St. Thomas more like to tie his people up, light 'em on fire. Luther would tune you up if you didn't believe in what he was saying. - It just was not, yeah, I mean, yeah, what happened is Martin Luther just, he just got a little frustrated. - It's what? - He tried to convert him. He said, look, they're gonna see the light and then they didn't see the light. He said, you know what? Just do away with him. - Yeah, and it's one of those things like people say, people say, you know, Christians don't act like that anymore, Christians don't be, you know, don't kill people and persecute people if they don't believe in their religion. And I say, that's right, they don't do that anymore, but we have a new name for them, they're called Muslims. - Lad of 14. - Yeah, it's just kind of Muslims is just doing what Christians did a few hundred years ago. They're just tunin' people up to their religion. - So it's not that Christians are, you know, it's just Christians aren't innocent. It's just we don't do it anymore, but down the Muslims do it. - That's all? - Humans are just gonna do human shit. - You do human shit. - Now the Muslim is tunin' people up if you don't listen to their religion. That's all it is. You just get a little tuned up unless you just see it my way. And the thing is the truth is, and the truth is, from the beginning of time, Jews have never been the ones to tune people up. They're always the ones getting tuned up. - They're doin' a little tune it up now. - Yeah, they tune a little tune out. - They started to do some tuning. First time in history, they're starting to tune people up. But for the longest time, they were the ones getting tuned up. - They were getting tuned up for a long time. They were getting tuned up is what it is. Yeah. Do you know that, I'm even scared to say, but it's a historical fact. Do you know that Muhammad died because he got poisoned by a Jewish woman? - I did not know that, yeah, yeah. It's a historical fact. - It's just a historical fact. - It's there some hatred between the Muslim community towards Jews because of that, or do you don't think most people don't even know that? - No, I think most people do know that. That's like, especially Muslims know that. Yeah, it was like a, like a concubine, like a Jewish slave woman or whatever. - Boys enough. - Yeah, he supposedly, he-- - I did not know that. - But he supposedly fulfilled a prophecy by God, you wanna get this stuff right. You really wanna get it right. - You better wanna get it right. - Yeah, you just gotta get it right. You might wanna pull it up for me. But I think-- - You better blur my face out if he doesn't get this right. - It was a prophecy that he was gonna like foresee it, so he like took a bite, but then knew, and then he forgave her or whatever, but-- - He died anyway. - He died anyway. - Like his main guy, one of his good friends died from it, so they ended up tuning it up. - Right. - Tuning it up. So it was a court, yeah, a court of thank God. According to Islamic tradition, I think God. And biographical literature, the prophet Muhammad was allegedly poisoned by a Jewish woman named have had it. Name Zainab Ben Al-Hadeeth. - Yeah, following the battle. - Also known as the Jew from the sand. - We sand you. - The sandjo. Yeah. So she was a resident of Kiva, always family members included. Her father, uncle, husband. So they got killed. So the Muslims tuned up the family a little bit, and so she was getting revenge. So they had been killed or defeated by Muslim forces. So she rose to the sheep, laced the meat, heavily with poison, and presented it as a gift to Muhammad. Muhammad took a bite from the shoulder, four leg of the sheep, but quickly spat it out after sensing or being warned that it was poison. However, one of his companions, you wanna have out that one? - One of his companions, "Biss Ibn Al-Bana, Bissher Ibn Al-Bara swallowed a piece and died shortly after." So then I think because of that, they ended up tuning her up. - But so in other words, she didn't kill him though. - She comes to try to. - Well, he questioned her, and she confessed that she intended to kill him to avenge her slain family members. But I think that in some traditional narrative state that Muhammad initially pardoned her or spared her life when she was brought before him, while other accounts state she was later executed, either in retaliation for Bissher's death or because she did not convert. So we don't really know. We definitely know she's not gonna convert, 'cause usually the Jews don't. - Right. - But Karl Marx's dad did. Right now, and there's also like a bunch of Jews in Spain, the Ashka, no, those are the Sephardics. The Sephardics are the smoke and hot ones. - They're from Portugal and Spain. - And they're smoke shows. - And a lot of them, there's a whole community of them that did, 'cause there's a lot of pressure for them. A lot of them said, "You know what? "Kitchen's too hot, I'm gonna convert." - It's just what it is. Yeah, they're fucking, they're the matzalatinas. - Yeah, so his mother was a Dutch, a Jew Dutch, like secular Jew, from like a kind of a more well-to-do family. - But he was born out of a Jewish vagina, so he's the Jew, he will never wash off. You're Jew forever. - If you come out of a Jewish vagina, that's a rule. - I guess so. - I don't even need to say it disrespectfully, I'm just saying, if you have Jews. - You did praise it. - Jew is not washed off. - I'm thinking that you need to wash it off. That's a good point, I didn't mean it that way. - Yeah, you might just meant if you come from, you know, a Jewish vagina that you are of the Jewish fluid. - You're basically saying that you're staying. You can't wash off the stain, is that what you're saying? - No, I don't mean it like that, but yeah, you know what I mean. - Yeah, something like that, I guess. I don't know what the fucking rules are. - I don't know what the rules are. - It's not the rules, Jewish mother, you're Jewish, you can't really get out of it. Can you get out of it? - Jesse, can you officially get out of it? Or are you in? - Sure, just accept Jesus Christ. - No, but you're born a Jewish mother. - Yeah, but I accept Jesus Christ, so now I'm Christian. - Yeah, but he's basically saying, and you know what's funny is the ones that did convert or the ones like in the Sephardic ones that did convert, they still were treated. They still knew like, yeah, you converted, but we still know that you know. Like if we're not bringing Doberman Pincher and he'll sniff, he'll sniff, Jesse, he'll know. He'll start barking and sit at you. - Something like that, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just gonna get a Doberman. - German, a German dog for a German kid. - 'Cause a German dog for a German kid, 'cause I'd been having trouble. I started this on the page on my Siberian Husky Josephine. She just won't listen, so I said the way to get anybody to listen. This is just tales all this time, you should get a German involved. And so if I'm gonna get a German Doberman Pincher, we're just gonna bring that little fucker home. And Josephine's gonna follow the German. - Yeah, yeah. And I'm gonna get a fully grown Doberman, I'm not doing a puppy, I'm getting a trained one. - Yeah, get a trained one. - Yeah, I'm getting a fucking canine. - Yeah. - Canine Unital, that's the best part about Chrissy, that's what people love. This is the last episode he said, he's getting rid of the dog, now he's getting another one. - Now I'm getting, what I like to do is turn up the heat. - So he comes from a tradition of Jews. Like I think his granddad was like the chief rabbi of that German town that he's born in, right? So his parent, his grandfather, his grandfather, Mordedai. - Mordedai Levy. Mordedai. - Mordedai, Mordedai, Mordedai, Mordedai, Mordedai, Mordedai, Mordedai Levy was the chief rabbi of 12. - Yeah. - So he was just one of those, you know, they, Mordedai. So the route coming to my office, let me help you with your problems, let me tell you what's going on. - Yeah. - So, and then his father was born Herschel Levy and he converted to become a Protestant Lutheran. And they actually had Carl. But he was just, he was just getting away from the Prussian, they lived in Prussian. They were getting away from the discrimination that barged Jews from practicing law. And the kid was a lawyer. - Yeah. - The kid was a lawyer. His father was a lawyer. His mom was just a good loving woman who said something funny later, one of her favorite, one of the most famous funny quotes she said about her son because she loved her son. But she hated the fact that he was a good for nothing. - Yeah. - Because make no mistake, Karl Marx couldn't make a dollar. - Yeah. - He lived off his buddy. His mom once wrote him a letter and said, "I wish he would've made some capital instead of writing about it." - Yeah. - Which is a funny line. - So, Karl Marx didn't make any loot really. - He didn't make any loot and he also was constantly hitting his mom up for loot. And his mom was pissed that he was a good for nothing. And his mom, he was also frustrated that his mom was still alive because he was going to get the inheritance and her being alive was holding it up. - Yeah. - So, he wanted it. It could you know because there was a little loop for him at the end of the fucking rainbow - Oh, and his mom was standing in the way. - Yeah, so it's just one of those things where like even Karl Marx, like the leader of communism, they're all fucking scumbag people. You got the idea, they're all scumbags. - You're gonna find some contradictions. Like Frederick Angles was actually like a capitalist, like his family had like a cotton mill, whatever in Manchester, and he was really good at it. Angles made money, and so he actually was given, he was given Karl Marx an allowance. He was like paying for his life. - How come Angles isn't as famous as Marx? Why does everybody know about Marx? - Because Angles wrote some stuff on his own, and Angles was a sharp dude, but Karl Marx was like the, wrote the majority of it. But just Karl Marx was a drunk. He was a functioning alcoholic, and he took his time, and Angles was the guy who came in and was like, "Speed it up, we need to get this out for the boys." - Right, and Marx is the, he famously critiques Jews a lot even though he was one. - Well, that's the fun part we're gonna get to. - Yeah! - 'Cause we're putting, we're putting smoke shops in the museum, they're right here. 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Try Quail for free, plus get 20% off your first six months when you go to Quail.com/Hahena's. That's Q-U-O, dinacom. Slash Hahena's. That's, unfortunately, this is wild, and so he wrote an essay called, "I'm the Jewish Question." - Yeah. - "Which is wild." - Yeah. - "The Jewish Question had been around for a while." The Nazis didn't invent it. The Nazis felt like they solved it. - Lab 14. - I'm saying from their perspective. - Their point of view. - From their point of view, we're finally gonna address it with an answer. - Yeah, it's like every, you know, you could go back through to 2500 BC, at every council from, you know, this Sumerah, the first council, you know, first people ever, you know, through Julius Caesar, through, you know, the frickin Genghis Khan, through the founding fathers at every council, at some point, somebody gets up and raises the hand, and says, "But what about the Jews?" - We song she ain't. - It's unfortunate, but it is the truth. - So the Jewish Question comes from this long tradition of, "Are we gonna let them give them rights? Are they gonna be citizens?" Like, "What do we do with the Jews?" - Right. - Like what? So that's what the Jewish Question in your book is. - Like the question is, "Oh, is all the Jews people? Are they not what we're doing here?" - Yeah, yeah, it's basically. - Yeah. - In some way, it was kind of like it's unfortunate, but it is, you know, it is the truth. - Yeah. - So he didn't invent the Jewish Question, and also the Nazis didn't invent the term, the Jewish Question. They just, unfortunately, I think they actually peaked it more. - And himself was ethnically a Jew, but Marx wrote, "Now, Mackelmore's asking the Jewish Question." - That's the name of Mackelmore's New Tours, called the Jewish Question. - So Marx did something fucking wild, dude. He wrote this response to a fellow Hegelian, these followers of this philosopher, Hegel, named Bruno Bauer, regarding the civil rights of Jews in Christian Prussia. So that was essentially always the Jewish Question that had come up over the centuries. So Marx decided like he was gonna weigh in. And unfortunately, he really made the Jewish question. He said Judaism is basically, this is bad. - Yeah. - This is really bad, okay? He basically called them like, haggling. He said Judaism isn't as much a religion as it is just a, like a hoarding haggling, economics. - And he said, "Huckstering." - It's the "Huckstering." - That's the word I was looking for. - Lincoln just called it "Huckstering." - He said it's an embodiment of commercial capitalism. - Yeah. He just basically, what he did was he just reinforced the stereotype to a level nobody had ever before. He said, "Basically, they're just all about money, that's what the worship is money, and the way he intended it was like, he put them in this system that he had in his mind. One thing Marx really didn't pay any attention to was the individual. - Right. - All his things are just about these concepts and that people are positions. He looked at it like a mathematical equation and he said Jews are like the ultimate capitalist. - Right. - And they always were and he said, they're gonna see this on their own. So he thought it was helping to choose. - Right. - He thought it was going like, "They're gonna once the revolution happens." And he goes, he says they've synthetically been relegated to this because of the circumstances, right? They had to go to usury because it was a way to survive 'cause they weren't allowed to do anything else, which is historically true. - Right. - The Jews became the moneylenders and stuff because they weren't allowed to do anything else. - Right. - And unfortunately that makes you the target because if you're a poor peasant or whatever and you need a loan and then you can't pay that back, it's a Jewish face that's asking for their money back. - Yeah. - So it's a bad situation to be in. - Right. - But the Jews were forced into it though. - They were kind of forced into it. Like they chose that over, you know, and they did it. - But the Jewish question I have is why were they forced out of every other job in the first place? So it was because they rejected crisis, they're savior. - That's the reason. - That's the reason. - Right. So I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing. That's the reason. But then there's also, I'm hoping that's the reason. - Yeah. - Because in Rome there was a similar, there was similar things. - Yeah. - And that was before Jesus. - And yeah, Christ hadn't showed up. - Yeah. - There was anti-Semitism even before Jesus. - So that is the question is why from the beginning for pretty much every group of people from any corner of the world, it's always the same thing. What is it? - I don't know. - 'Cause I don't have any problems at all. - I don't have any problems either. - I really swear. - No, I just said on his question, what is the reason? - medieval Christian law prohibited Christians from lending money. - Yeah, this is the thing. - But I understand all that. - I get what, but again why? - 'Cause there were so many other religions that people, they didn't allow them to do stuff. - No, no, they didn't. Everyone was Christian. You had to be, like you. - So, okay, so in other words, the reason why the Jews were in this position was because the Jews had balls and we're not going to, we're not going to become anything else. - Essentially, you can look at it in that way. - That's pride. - They were definitely insular. I think the thing is they're very insular. Like they're very insular, like even in Rome, like you see the scathing critiques of them. It's like they're insular, they stick to their thing, and then they yield some power, and then they sort of stay outside a little bit. - Well, the thing is with Jewish people too, outside of, you know, the reason stuff-- - They're chosen and they're mine, they're chosen. - Well, outside of, you know, the recent stuff with Israel, they're really not violent. They're not too violent. - No, no, no, this is new for them. - This is new because most of the time they're not violent at all. Even if they're getting pushed out of stuff, they kind of meet everything with non-violence, which is nice. - And there's, well, there's never been enough of them. They've never been enough. They've never, it's always been kind of a small thing. Even Jesus is from a fucking, at the time, I mean, that's like a remote little area in Rome. It means nothing. I mean, the Jews were such a small amount of people. It was just a, it's weird that it became so famous. It doesn't make sense that it became so famous. - Right. - Like it shouldn't have become as famous as, I'm sure there was situations like that all over the world where some dude was like, "Oh, and then it just. " - Oh, no, there were, historically there were. There were like 30 other people at the time of Jesus. - There was tons of that. - In that hundred year span that he lived, saying that they were the Messiah, and they all fell into oblivion. - Yeah, there's been, there was another guy in the 1800s, and a lot of Jews believed that he was Messiah. I think his name was Frank or something, and some people followed him. So it's like, yeah, I don't know. It's weird that he got executed by that empire, and then that empire ended up converting. It's weird. - It's very strange. - You just do a helicopter view, it is fucking weird. But anyway, we're getting on a tangent. - Yeah. - But, so I think it may be that, right? So, but the Jewish question was that, and so the, he go, I mean, he fucking writes this thing. - Karl Marx writes that the Jewish, on the Jewish question in 1840, he just, Karl Marx, if he were to illustrate him, it would just be the fucking happy merchant man. - And it's what it is. - That's what Karl Marx did. Yes, and that's the one thing I know about Karl Marx is on the Jewish question. in 1844 because it's tradition in my house. It's red to us, it's children, every Christmas eve around the fire. - That fool, Dean. He basically just, he plainly said. He didn't say they like to Huckster. He didn't say they like to make money. He didn't say they like. He said, that's what they are. - He said, that's what it is. - He went for it. - He said Judaism, he didn't say it's like Huckstring. He said it is. - It is. - It is Huckstring. - His Huckstring. - He said it is. - He said Judaism embodies commercial capitalism. He said, that's exactly what it is. And, but he said, in his mind, he was going like, you know what, but that's everybody's like that. And once they're aware of what I'm saying, this stuff will all just fall away natural. - Yeah. - So that's what he was saying. And he was sympathetically saying they're in this position for these reasons and it's become this thing, but it's no different than, you know, what he called historical materialism. That's what Marx was about. He was going, all of history can be understood by who controlled the modes of productions and the classes that were created and the conflicts between the people based around materialism. - Right. - So he took Hagel who said, history can be explained through ideas and the conflict between opposing ideas. And he said, no, he said, Hagel's wrong. I'm gonna turn it on its head and say, it's not the ideas, it's actually material. It's actually material possessions and the conflict between who has them and who doesn't, which is the term in history. Now, looking back, if you're an honest person, you could say both of them ain't wrong. - Right. - But is that the whole story? - Right. - Probably not the whole story. - So in my opinion, he took a part and he made it the whole, just like Hagel took a part and made it the whole story. But then the other kid was an Angles. - Angles. - Angles, Frederick. - Frederick Angles. So are you saying that in Karl Marx because of all the Jewish question, that's what kind of makes him more famous than Angles and why people talk more about Marx today than they do about Angles? - No, the Jewish question thing is something that most people don't even bring up. - Right, yeah, it's just sort of their narrative. - It's just a weird thing. Yeah, it's a thing that it's sort of like people don't bring up Taiwan. You know, it's like if you got like somebody who's just yelling about how great China is. - Yeah, look around James. - Or whoever it is, there's some people on the internet who love to talk about how great China is. What they will never bring up is how much better Taiwan is doing than China. By every measure that's meaningful, Taiwan is crushing China and it's a liberal capitalist democracy and that's exactly why China hates it. - Yeah. - And that's exactly why those people who love China never bring it up. - Right. - 'Cause it's just an inconvenient thing. - Yeah. - Like I was thinking about, you know Miami's kind of like, Miami's kind of like a second Cuba. Miami's kind of like the Taiwan of Cuba. - Right. - It's just a little like Cuban enclave in a different system right next door, right? You could swim it, a lot of people try. And it's right there and you tell me. - Yeah. - You tell me between the two Cuba's. - Yeah. - Which one looks a little more cute. - Cute. - So one of them's cute. Which one does Lionel Messi want to live in? - Yeah. - I got this Lionel Messi want to live in. - It is Pat Jo want to live. - Yeah. - It's just, it's kind of like two Cuba. - It is, it's a little. - Two Cubas. - Yeah. - All right, so scroll down a little bit Jess. So very important, Marx did not invent socialism or communism from scratch. - Yeah. - He had some ideas, right? He got borrow whatever. - The French fucks did. - So he said Marx becomes a radical. So he influenced by, by Heigel. And he said material and economic condition shape society and class conflict drives historical change. So that's the barring from Heigel. That's pretty much, right? - Yeah. - He's saying like the, he took Heigel's dialectic and he went, it's, it's not ideas. It's, it's actual class conflict, it's material. So he used Heigel and he refuted it. - Right. - He said Heigel got it wrong. It's not the ideas. By the way, Heigel's having like a resurgence now, like Zizac and all these guys love Heigel. So it's a very interesting idea. So basically Heigel's going like, you have an idea, that idea is going to create and it's also very youngy in which is very interesting too because it's like the shadow and then incorporating the shadow. It's very similar to what Young was saying. Like you have a ego and identity and a shadow. And what your, what your goal is is to incorporate the shadow into your identity and integrate them. And Heigel was saying you have an idea and then you have its opposite. And then those two things come into conflict and that produces a new thing. - Right. - And that's the engine history. So it's very similar to Young in that way in it. You know, one psychology won the sort of the engine history but the architecture is the same. - Right, so they're all saying the same thing. Take off the mask. - They're saying take off the mask they're saying integrate the shadow. They're saying let the conflict be and accept it, accept the darkness and then something new will emerge. - Right. - And that's what he called synthesis, which was the battle, the resulting battle between the thesis and the antithesis. - Right. - And then Mark said, no, no, no, no, no, it's class. It's material. He goes the thesis and his mind would be in Rome. It would be the petitions and then the work and then the peasants and the feudal system. It would be the royal families and the serfs and so on and so forth. It's a real pattern. It's a real pattern. - If you think of Karl Marx was alive today, he would have died the beard blue. - I think I cut the piece off. (laughing) - And lived in Portland? - You think it's possible? - I'll be in Portland, October 8th to the 10th, home. - I don't, what's interesting is without a doubt when you look into Marx, he definitely wouldn't recognize what happened. In his mind, it would have been different. - It actually would have been. - He wouldn't even brace this stuff, Rob. - He didn't foresee Russia being the first like big socialist state, right? Because he thought it had to happen in Germany and England because it had to happen in a place that was heavily industrialized. America wasn't big enough to hate yet for him, right? Karl Marx. - He was paying attention. He thought it was gonna happen in America too, but he thought it was gonna happen first. He predicted it would be in England and Germany because the industrialization was like moving there. Other places were catching up. Russia was still largely agrarian. So he didn't see that coming. He didn't see that coming at all. And he didn't see the fact that it would produce the same authoritarian structure. And what would happen is that you would take all the private property and own the modes of production from private ownership and companies and give it to the state. He didn't foresee that, oh, that creates the same problem, but now it's just basically one company, one person in power as opposed to spread out. So he didn't see that. He didn't see it that way. Okay, he didn't see it that way. What he saw was that happening for a little while and that's what he called socialism. So when people go to what's different between socialists and communists and the way their foundational thinkers saw it, right? This is what's going on today, which is very interesting. First, I'll say this. The way the foundational, like Mark saw it was, first you do capitalism first. You let it get, you let it produce a lot of shit. And then there's a, I don't know, the perfect, someone decides it's the perfect moment. Right. They accumulated a lot, it's the perfect moment. Let's fucking have a revolution. Workers of the world unite and we're gonna take it. Right, now we're gonna take them and kill them or get rid of them or enlighten them or put them in re-education camps or whatever. And now the workers own everything. Right. And we get all your private property seized. There's no more private property. Companies don't have property. The people have it. Yeah. And then what will happen is a structure will form where there's like a socialist dictatorship or whatever the fuck he was talking about and they would rule for a little while. And then what would happen is naturally, naturally. You don't have to do anything and naturally it'll fade away. The state would fade away because people would realize, oh, this piece, it's nice, everything's good. So basically if you were to visualize it, it would be like you build the ladder with socialism and then once you get to the top and achieve it, then the ladder will disappear on its own. Got it. And so that's when you go from socialism to communism as he called it the withering away at the state. Right. Now let me say this, which is really interesting. What's the DSA's doing right now is very interesting to me. Because what I see, if you're paying attention, which I don't think a lot of their voters are paying attention, I don't think they care. But, Khomeini did it, Shavez did it, cash row did it. Right. Getting elected and winning popular support is one thing. Right. And then what you want to do and what you really believe is another. But the thing that the DSA's done is they tell you, if you go to their website, if you listen to them talk in their meetings or whatever, this is what they want. This is what they believe. They believe we want to get the modes of production. We want to give it to the people, workers unite. We want to get rid of capitalists, right? And what they use is they say, we already have socialism. They go, we already have socialism. We have firefighters. We have public schools. And what they're doing is they're conflating. What they're doing is conflating. Whether they're doing it consciously or not, depends on the person, I think. But the gap between what is true and what they're doing is unmistakable. They're conflating these public services in a capitalist system as socialism. It's not socialism. These are public services that have existed in every system. Rome had fire brigades. Rome had public education. So it's like these are, you know, this is the government, like giving public. public services. It's not the government owning the modes of production. Right. So they're conflating that and going, "We just want to do that and then make it more." And that's what, you know, I ran thought in 1979. They thought. I look what happened now. That's what Venezuela thought because if you look at Chavez actually campaigning, he says, "I'm not a socialist." Yeah. Which is funny. There's a whole interview you can watch where he goes, "I'm not a socialist, bro." He's like, "I'm not for that. I'm not for that. We're not going to get rip out, but I'm not for that." And then look what happened. And it also cashed row said that. Yeah. And do not vote for it, my friends. Do not vote for it because what's going to happen to you is just like what happened in Iran in 1979, they're going to say all this good stuff. Then all of a sudden you got to go full religious garb. You don't want to wear it. And the only way to be freed is how we're going to have to free the Iranian people. And it's going to happen us in 30 years with a little thing called the bunker buster. Way soon she ain't caught. The name episode is sponsored by the ASPCA pet health insurance program. Now I really love this. 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Yeah. And you tell me if I'm wrong. This is what Trump does. All right. By the way, also good point. I'm not telling you to vote or not vote for the DSF. Yeah, I do whatever you want. Honestly, truly do what you want. I'm just about you. What I know this is just what it is. There's definitely the truth is I'm not even a US citizen. I work for Israel. Yeah. But the truth is you look at their website and then you go there saying something different than what dad says. They're saying something privately. And you look at history. You go, I've seen that before. Anyway, but what Trump does. You tell me if I'm wrong. Does this sound like it's right? What he does is an interesting thing. It's a sort of like authoritarian tactic where he'll say some wild shit or he'll say he's going to do some wild shit or actually do something that seems authoritarian, right? And then if you believe it and you push back and he sees that he can't get away with it really, then he just goes I'm joking. Yeah. So then he makes you look like a fool and all the supporters go, look at these idiots. They got Trump, the range of it. They don't get it. But if it works, it gives him a little more license to push forward. And so that process kind of just exhausts you. But it seems like he's just pushed. He's just pushing a little bit. He pushed. I mean, he's best friends with mom Donnie now pushed the kids wild because they're both populists. Yeah. Probably looks at him and goes like, I get it, dude. I get this guy. Well, mom Donnie, mom Donnie's a brilliant politician. So this thing with the opera, right? So the met he just announced this big thing. And of course, people fell for it. But he's not he's not wrong. He's just bending it in his favor. What do you say about the opera? So the met it's funny that you know the up to date news on the opera. Yeah. So the met is releasing 70,000 unpaid tickets like unbought tickets. Yeah. And people got really excited because he thought he really realized there wasn't an asset yet. He thought the match was giving away tickets. So he got upset when he heard about this. Right. Yeah. So they're going to release the tickets that aren't that don't get purchased. Right. And they're saying we're just going to give it to people to get people into the opera, whatever. Who would have never been able to get into the opera. Yeah. Seats are empty or whatever. Mom Donnie goes, this is a nice win for me. Right. So he goes, let me promote this. We'll work together. And then he goes, what we're doing when you when you see him releasing the, you know, the doing the social media video on it is what we're doing is we're going to we're giving away. We're giving away. So you see these people who don't do the work or the research going, it's not their money. He's got those guys going. It's not their money. The fucking take a tax pair of money. And then you got the other ones going like, look at how great he is. Look at what he's doing. And they're both fucking raw. Right. So this is how this goes back. He's he's spinning it. It's a good thing. He's involved. He's promoting it. Right. They're involved. But there's not giving away free tickets. These tickets are on the market. They haven't been purchased. That's what the med is just going. The seats are fucking empty. We want people into the opera. Let's promote the fucking opera. Let's give them tickets that they that we can't buy. And at least we'll get them in the buy concession. Yeah. Something like that. But mom Donnie's using it as like, I'm a person of the people, whatever. Like he's he's smart. Politically, the guy is very fucking smart. He's smart. And so he's owning it. So he's basically he's he's going, I'm going to do the press release. Right. I will I will own this in a way that makes me look very good. This is things people don't usually take the time to see through because we nobody has time. It's not even our fault. We don't have time. Well, it's also too. That's the other, you know, genius thing. If the techno crats, you know, made the social media. It's like they they know that it's just burn your energy. You're mental energy that you don't have enough time to think or care about anything. You just become like indifferent to everything. Because you're exhausted. And that's what Trump does very well. He says so much wild shit. You just go, you just go, what do I? I'm just fucking tired. Like I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. I look at what he's doing. I go, dude, I'm like, I can't even pay attention anymore because he's exhausted so many times. And he does that game. That game is very effective. You know, you go like fucking he says he's going to rub for a third term. And then he goes, I'm just kidding. And then he makes you look like a fool. But you're going, no, you did say that. You are kind of acting like that. You know, so it's like this little, this little hop step thing that he does that fucks everyone's brain up. I mean, the kid might come in for number three. But he then he then now he's also starting to support Vance. So it doesn't look like he's going to do it. But you don't he keeps you off balance. Right. That's his goal is to keep you off balance. And to push, push, push, push, push, push. Like he does stack the court. He does do things. Like he does do a thought. You know, he denied the election. He tried, you know, all that shit. He's pushing. He's pushing the institutions. He's seen if they bent. Yeah. And they did bend a little bit. But it didn't break if either one of these fucking people just break it a little bit. Cause that's what the DSA says. What they want to do ultimately would call Marx and Fredrick Engels before the DSA or they would say this is pushed too far. According to their principles. That's an interest. That's very. I don't I think they would what would chat GPT say? So I mean, we are the slugs. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Marx was a functioning alcoholic. So let's see. I don't they may come back and because they're they may rationalize it and say, nobody did it right. I don't know what they would do. Let's see. But they definitely would have more data. Chat, let me ask you a question hun. Would Fredrick Engels and Karl Marx, would they be supportive of the modern day DSA? Give me the real answer, hun. Oh, wait, hold on. Wait. Sorry. Hello. What? Well, it says, okay, there's no way to know what Marx or Engels would think of. We want to hear the voice. Yeah, I know. I don't know why it's going to give me the voice. And while you find the voice, I'll say this. The kid did. Hey, hello. Hey, what's up, guy? Listen, would Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels, if they were alive today, would they be in support of the DSA, you know, knowing what you know about their work and comparing that to what the DSA says? Give me the give me the real answer, hun. Let me check that through carefully. But speed it up because we're on the pod. One sec. Don't embarrass me in front of my friends. I'm just going to say quickly, on core economic goals, there's major overlap. DSA says it wants to replace capitalism, build working class political power. power and pursue public ownership, which, yeah, lines up with what Marx and Engels were aiming for, where they'd likely diverge his strategy. DSA is explicitly democratic and electoral, whereas Marx and Engels also contemplated revolutionary rupture. So same big picture horizon, different route. So you see this, but the candidate will not say that on the campaign trail. They won't say that. Right. Okay, we're going to expand, we just want to expand, you know, healthcare for all. We just want, you know, just like your firefighters, or it's just public services. So they're like conflating public services, which is not social, what they claim is socialism. Right. It's not socialism. Yeah. It is not social, no matter which way you slice it, it's not social. You could maybe stretch it and use the rhetoric and say it's socialists inspired, but that's modernizing it. Because like I said, Rome had all that shit. Yeah. They weren't capitalist either, but were they socialist? No, they weren't. No. So it's every modern capitalist country in the world has some form of that. It's a tactic. Well fair and stuff. Yeah. It's a tactic. But like you said, that's what the DSA think they're going to get in. The DSA are communists. Right. I mean, it's just, it is what it is. The democratic socialist element. We just heard the synopsis of what they want. That's socialists. Now let's, let's, let's speak to a member of the DSA. First of all, I want to ask you, why do you think it's bad if I say that they're communists? Let's be honest. Why do you think that this is bad? By the way, this is Nick with pants on. Yeah. Here we go. I think it's fine. I think this is just the American version of socialism. The way we all have like the American version of movies that come out from Europe and it's never as good. It's the same thing. This is the American version of socialism, just like Trump is the American version of fascism. Sometimes it's not as good as the original, but what can you do? And I think it's just what it is. And I think it's going to work. I don't think New York's going to become the new version of Cuba. And if it does, then you guys, I'll help you guys swim back in. It'll be fine. Well, you know, the thing that's different is this isn't Sweden. This isn't Scandinavian welfare. You just heard, like Chachi but you just summarized what they want. What they want is what Marx was saying. They want socialism. They want. The problem, it only works in a communist society. It doesn't really work with us. We're two different. Well, it didn't even work there. Sweden was not socialist. All right. Sweden was a welfare state, a capitalist welfare state. That's what it was. What does that mean? A capitalist welfare state. That means they were a market economy that had a lot of social programs. Right. Right. But you could make, well, you could be a billionaire in Sweden. No problem. You could be a billionaire in Sweden. In fact, this is another. Look at IKEA. Yeah. This is another inconvenient fact that people hate because Bernie always talks about the wealth tax. He's like, you got to do this wealth. Now, here's a deal. Nothing's new. Right. Sweden, Austria, few other countries had a wealth tax. They got rid of it. Right. In my mind, did liberal, whatever, also the most social programs socialist like, however you want to call it, they got rid of it. Why did they get rid of it? Not just for capital flight. It had poor redistributive value. It just, it didn't work. It made wealthier people somehow more wealthy. It just didn't work the way they thought it was going to work. So they got rid of it. And in Sweden's case, they got rid of it a long time ago. Right. 2007. Right. So, but there's like a bunch of kind. Most countries that tried the wealth tax got, they got rid of it. Right. And I don't know why anyone doesn't ask Bernie, has anyone ever asked Bernie that? What do you think about that? Well, he's a great, he's a good politician, he would have some kind of answer where he would wiggle out of it. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not saying this to a spouse, this is just a fact of what happened. So it's like, I'm not saying anything. I'm not offering an opinion. I'm just telling you, these countries got rid of their wealth tax. What does that mean? I don't know. Have we asked why? Right. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, and also this thing to call Sweden. And by the way, they don't, they don't quote Sweden anymore. They don't really, even though Sweden, I think the left just won again, more power. But Sweden has turned a lot more to markets and private insurance. And it's a mess over there because their welfare state is funding, you know, they're paying for a lot of new people, new Swedes. New Swedes. Yeah. It kind of has strained their welfare state a little bit, but they're not socialists. Then as well, is socialists, Cuba is socialists. Right. North Korea is socialists. Yeah. What the DSA is saying on their website and what their talking points are, is socialists. Right. What they say on the campaign trail is not what they say on their website and when they talk amongst themselves. Yeah. That's just the fact. I don't know what to tell you. It's just the fact, guys. It's just the fucking fact. And also it's the fact that Karl Marx fucked this outkeeper. Yeah. Can we talk about that? Let's get into fun Karl Marx stuff. Let's, what Karl Marx fucked this housekeeper and how did Karl Marx die? I want to know a little bit more about Karl Marx. Karl Marx was a fun, it was a fucking booze hound. Yeah. And he always was. And the funny thing is him and Engels were boys for like 40 years and they would write back and forth and joke, can't be sarcastic and rip people apart and Frederick Engels just paid for this kid's lifestyle with his money for decades. Like if it wasn't for Engels, Marx would be like broke until he got that inheritance when his mommy died. Right. But he had a housekeeper and he knocked it up and here, yeah, go ahead. So I'm saying and then read the cover up his funny. Yeah, the cover was funny. Frederick Engels covered for him and said, I'm the father. Yeah. Because they didn't want Karl Marx to have like a bad reputation or whatever. Yeah. So, so he just stepped in and was like, yeah, I fucked her. Yeah. It was really Karl Marx. Just banged up his housekeeper. But he was a lone drunk and she was there and he fucked her. And he fucked her and he banged her out and it's just what happens. And his name was Freddie. Yeah. And he was not raised by Helene or Marx. Instead, he just got sent to live in some working class, forced a family in Hackney London. And it grew up to be Jack the Ripper. He grew up to be Jack the Ripper. Yeah. But when did it come out? Can you do the confession? Scroll down a little bit. Cept a secret. However, on his deathbed, Engels confessed the truth to Eleanor Marx, Karl's daughter and a close circle of socialists. Yeah. So Karl Marx, daughters were like big fans of his and they admired him and they were like socialists activists. That's like the Sam Kinnison and Karl Lebove story. The comedians. You ever know that story? Sam Kinnison, you know, one of my favorite comedians of all time died tragically young. Karl Lebove, who I opened for a couple of times, I don't know, another great guy, he's also recently passed away. But Karl Lebove used to open for Sam Kinnison all over the world. They were best friends. And Karl had a daughter. Karl Lebove had a daughter, you know, great father, like, you know, like our daughters, like how we are with our daughters, like whatever. When Carl, when Sam Kinnison died or right after Sam Kinnison died, somewhere when the daughter was like a teenager, it came out that Sam Kinnison had Karl Lebove's wife had an affair with Sam Kinnison and that wasn't Karl's kid. It was his, but he only found out after Sam Kinnison died. Karl told me the story in the green room once where he was like, I had to, you know, I would go to his gravesite and be mad at him and then at, and then as he years went on, I started going to his gravesite to forgive him, but the whole time he was dead. Holy shit. Yeah. Holy shit. Wild, right? But he said, I still, I still made a decision to just raise her as if she was my daughter because she was my daughter. Yeah. You know, wild, right? Wild. Yeah. That is wild. So it happens. The Frederick Angles didn't do any of that. The interesting thing, you know, the interesting thing about the Jewish question thing is I was thinking about it right. So like Karl Marx was close to his dad. They were kind of close. They weren't like a stranger or anything like that, but his dad, you couldn't help but notice that his dad was kind of the opposite of what Karl Marx believed. Okay. So like this was the worker's spring or the people's spring was 1848. So revolutions happened all over Europe, like the people as industrialization started. So Karl Marx is coming to be in this new industrialization, this change in the economy. Right. I think what Karl Marx didn't predict or couldn't foresee and was obviously wrong about was capitalism's ability to absorb these social critiques and use them and continue on. Right. Like, I think he thought it was like this or nothing. People love buying areas. Yeah. It's either good or bad. Right. It's either going to work or not. Evil or good. They don't like the grey zone. Life's a grey zone. Yeah. So what capitalism did, they started, you know, there was worker reforms, there was unions, there was, they, they lessened the hours, workers got a little more and capitalism, you know, absorbed it, reformed and changed. And that's what capitalism still does to this day. Is it kind of absorbs the critiques, the inequities fixes it and continues on. Right. Right. So that just makes people mad. Yeah, Nick. The DSA is GAY. You know what else is weird? You know what else is weird is the census data just came out and this blew my mind. This is just like, you know, and this is people just, you know, this just shows you like, people get threatened because they build their identity on something. It's not the truth that threatens them. It's that they have to change their opinion. They don't like that because then if your identity is tied to their opinion, then they get all fucked up. What it is. So the census data just came out, America has just recorded the highest inflation adjusted medium income, like one of the highest, like the average is like 87,000 something. And it's also one of the lowers, or if not, the lowest poverty rate on record. Right. So you're going, what do we do with that? Because you keep telling me that the system is collapsing. Yeah. And everybody got looped. But the system's doing better than ever. Yeah. So, so what does that say? That means there's some people struggling, right? What can we define the whole system just by the people who are struggling? Are we taking a part of what's going on and making the whole? Because it seems like there's a bigger picture here. You have some. and people who the system is genuinely failing and that can be addressed. And then you have some people who are failing within the system, perhaps due to their stubbornness, which a free society allowed you to be. But then you have an enormous amount of people who are also doing okay and doing well. So is the problem that we're living in prosperity and the real problem is it's our ability to see it? Maybe. I don't know. I'm not stating these things, definitely. I'm just saying, this is the data that you gotta deal with. I can't just stick to your little part of the story and think that this is the whole story. - Yeah. - The world's bigger than you, babe. - You gotta give me something, babe. You gotta give me sign. - Now listen, it was a great episode. Today, as always, we have fun at patreon.com/historyane is the most fun part of the show for you guys. And for us is reading out the names. We won't pick a winner. This pseudo penis of the week. The names have been great the last couple of weeks. So let's see if it continues. Leading off the list, we have Roof blown off. Call me Tripp and Tranny. Okay? - Close. - Mr. Smith, Billy Fabian, broke my fast with a virgin seed Mubarak. Okay? We was Vikings, but now I'm surrounded by Leroy's and Frisbee's. - Lab 14. - With the Scandinavian Ken. - He just, he probably lives in Bay Ridge. - Quinn Rasmus. - You know, Bay Ridge used to be all Scandinavian. - Yeah, yeah. Bobby T, a fat bitch who loves piss. Call me a PPW. - But on the list. - It's weird. - It's weird. - We got a PPW. - Yeah. - We got a contender right after that. - Tender. - This is why we love when people, you know, the newest members of the matriarch could come and swing in. Sometimes people who have been on the lit, you know, part of our picture for a while, change names, try to get back involved. We really love it. We really love that we created this part of the show and we're starting to slowly see other shows. Steel it. (laughing) Briley Thurman, T.J. B.J. 69. Daniel Lad, Bob's TV service. Shout out. Kids screwed in. Use him, Andrew Arons, Hillary Gordler, the Ryan Canologist, the Ryan Collegist, the Ryan Collegist, I don't know. George, where do I get the gray sweatpants with the bulge? Kids just wants to, you know, juice up his dick, Cody Ingram, squeeze in the tip to hold the glue while I run to the bathroom. (laughing) Just want to say it again? Squeezing the tip to hold the glue while I run to the bathroom. You're excellent, but it made me laugh, yeah. Tucker Adams, bad, bare friend needing a hyena. Elon Omar's winery crushes grapes by throwing stones at them. Lad 14. Just one of his. DM, Matt walked into one. Yeah, it's another one of the evil good ones. Matt Sandivall, Jared Harms, Jordy Tingley. My Jumar don't make dinner, call her in-- (laughing) Oh, God. Jesus Christ. Why do they save the inventiveness for that? Like, what is that in human nature? Yeah. 'Cause it's inventive. It's inventive, yeah. This one we've had, N word. N word, scissors hands, we've had that a lot. Ben, camel toe, Chrissy, Henry Cavill Super Glue. That's Superman. Scissoring might hurt your balls. But. (laughing) Lad 14. So, yeah. So it's just kind of can't do anything else. (laughing) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Tony, where you got your work cut out for? Yeah, so that's just a walk into one award. Workin' out for it. Okay. Dylan Swalls, sit on my dick until numb. So it feels like I'm sucking someone else. (laughing) Okay. Slipped on soy sauce, fell into a buck dumpling. (laughing) Drexler. Hunter Heart. Buff jizzy buns. Gag ball, your mother-in-law ink available in all 50 states. Chrissy calls his glue gender fluid. Good try. Glue gender fluid. Chicken. Interesting. Licking up bits of toilet paper or of her fume factory called it a litter box. Put 'em on a list. It's disgusting. Yeah, it's disgusting, but it's funny. Ben commenting Heybert on Mad Dog's Insta for eight years. Okay, one. (laughing) Latifullio, Licking peanut butter off my dog's ass hole. (laughing) List it. Yeah, it is. Fill up air. (laughing) So shit, my pants working remote. Hashtag no fumes through Zoom. Okay. Swimming through muzzle fumes in her straight of Hormuz. Okay. Good try. Masi women. Some of them are so fucking incredibly hot. It's hard to take. Yeah. Brian Rooney, recycling day on my block. AKA Chinese payday. (laughing) Way song she ain't. It's too good. It's going on the list. And it's going on the agenda. I'm sorry, that's too fucking good. Chinese payday, that is too fucking good. Yeah. Geno Gabinelli, Brian Magaster, Ryan Perry. Chris's Deliverance, AKA Squill Pipe Chrissy. Jose Hernandez, Amanda Rose, cannabis cow puncher, David Klapp, Will H. Dillon Yee, two dicks, one ball. Two dicks. Strange range of me got going on. Yeah. Straight to back for Chrissy's cock pick in the chat. Fart smell, Kevin Sanchez, Chase Barner. I once went to a black Christmas party and everybody was twerking. Tunk punch, my fart box, Bobby Dominguez, Phyllis Aureus, Joshua, Jody Williams, Malaka, Kalaka, Balanced Board of Trust, Will Cormier, declaring for the WNBA, call me Joanna, man, shaneheart.com. Stop Uncle Leroy, that's not my belly button. Okay, Matthew Brownfield, Eat Curry out of my ass, call it a pun job. Scottie P from the block, Frisbee Lover Lou, Routang Kran, the Staten Island dim sum authority. Ways on she ain't thing. Yeah, what do you get to do with it? Rafa, Jay, too many blue shoes turned my comies into kidney stones. Yeah, that will happen. That'll happen. Thank you, Yannis and Chris. Please keep the pod going even after Trump. Hanberger, Cheeseburger, and then last but not least, Shabbat on my Shalom until I pass over. Decent one, not bad. Rexler. All right. It was a good word pun, but not a lot of humor behind it. Okay, so here's the list. A fat bitch who loves piss, call me PPW. It's too good. Licking peanut butter off my dog's ass hole. So funny. Licking up bits of toilet paper off her fume factory, call it a litter box. We can drag through that one, because it's a little more gross, but a good job. And then recycling down my block, aka Chinese payday. Oh, he's comes down to three or four really bad ones. Yeah, so that's what we got. What do we think folks? You got a fat bitch who loves piss, call me PPW, like a BBW. That's so good. Licking peanut butter off my dogs ass hole. Recycling down my block, aka Chinese payday. This is just a moment. It's a real, it's a real opening. It's a real aperture, it's a real opening into some awareness about what I do for a living. I always have that moment where I just sit here and go, I can't believe this is our job. Yeah, this is our job and it's a fun job. And what we're gonna do here is we're gonna see this, we're gonna see this to the end of the day. We're gonna watch through the end of the day. We're gonna watch to the end of the day. And we're gonna pick this. We're gonna pick this one. We're gonna see this through to the end of the day. I agree with you. Okay, so what do you got? So give me your thoughts on a John Hancock. For me, I like out of all these, I think they're all great, but licking peanut butter off my dogs ass hole feels fun because it's always been there for the taking and nobody thought about that. Okay, that's a good reason. Yeah, 'cause they, yeah, Nick, what do you got? PPW, PPW, 'cause that's a good one. That is a great one. He's going with the level, the inventiveness. It is a great, yeah, yeah. Can't go wrong here. Can't go wrong. Well, I thought nothing was gonna be licking peanut butter off my dogs ass hole until I heard Chinese payday. I mean, it's so hard. Yeah, you're honest. What do you got? Wow. Have we ever had each person pick the different one? I know it's on me. It's the vote to do. Well, no, because, oh, then it'll be a tidal matter. So, but it's like pick one, what do you know? So, what do we have to do in this? We gotta give it to the fans. No, we call the wives. We call the wives. That's the only way. That's the only way. That's the only way is, is so I'll go from mine. We'll call the wives. We'll see hopefully she picks up. If, and if not, we'll call my mom. (laughing) (phone ringing) (phone ringing) Go, yeah, you didn't vote yet, right? No, I didn't vote yet, but, (phone ringing) if I vote, if I vote something different, 'cause there's three of them, right? Oh, yeah, I would break. It's called once anyway. You're not gonna answer me right now. Hello? Hey. Hi. Wait, are you in the car with the kids? Yeah. Okay, all right, well, yeah. I'll call you back then, 'cause we need you to break the tie. Oh my God, can you stop calling me for the pie? No, but we need you to break a tie. We need you to break a tie with three of the names. So we can't pick one, so we now, to break the tie, we have to call the wives. Names are white. For the-- For the Patreon. For the patreon names that we read at the end. You can't say those. Yeah. Yeah, I can't say them though because the kids will here Can you take the phone? Can you just put the phone in your ear for a second? Just real quick if you could just put the phone in your ear You get your call from your husband and that's what the call is. You're pulling into the driveway Okay, let's give you a second. Hey girls. How was school? Yeah, it was fun. What was the highlight of your day, honey? Give me the highlight daddy's at work The highlight. What was the best? What was the best moment of your day? What made you the happiest? What moment? You what? Okay, what was this? What was the saddest moment? I'd like to know both All right. I didn't pop my squishy. Okay, but you got through both Okay, violent Go ahead you're going it. Okay, we ready. Okay, here's these are the three. Don't react until I read all three, okay? Not about her neck. Okay, you ready? Yes, a fat bitch who loves piss call me a ppw Don't like it. Okay, licking peanut butter off my dog's ass hole Oh my god, or recycle recycling day on my block a.k.a Chinese payday What let me read him again a fat bitch who loves piss. We just have to do it for the show a fat bitch who loves piss call me ppw Licking peanut butter off my dog's ass hole or recycling day on my block a.k.a Chinese payday. What do you like? What the kids heard it You're so loud. Oh Daddy's just doing it. Yeah, daddy's just doing a joke What can you tell me one two or three? One you like one I don't like any of that. I don't I don't get it. Well, if you have to pick one Come on, honey, because we're doing the kitchen over so how daddy makes money One two or three one wow, okay. All right. I love you guys Daddy's just joking honey. Okay. Bye. I love you. Sorry, Jess So she picked she picked what she picked what I want to call your wife Yeah, what it would someone to she picked yeah, so here so here the the three the the checkmarks that are circled I think she's gonna go with the Chinese payday one two and three My question is what could you possibly be doing? Yeah I'm the one at work hard working hard Nick so that that should be the clip though to we should make that clip for patreon that'll that'll drive patreon till So she's going with the ppw. That's what she went with she's going with the ppw Okay, because uh, I'm with Jesse. Oh, I honest with you. Wait, what's the score? What do we got? I'm with Jesse China's payday. Yeah, I mean I'm a Chinese payday I'm shit and you two are with uh, well, I I picked dog asshole my wife picked ppw The only thing about Chinese payday is if you don't live in the city will you get it? Right, yeah, I don't think you'll get it. They're not Chinese in my neighborhood. They're all Hispanics That's why I didn't pick it right right so that makes maybe Chinese payday should be out and it's between ppw and dog licking the asshole Yeah, because Chinese payday is only funny if you live in a neighborhood where you see Chinese women collecting cans for recycled But my wife can make the decision there it is so read all three. Yeah Hi honey before before you say anything. I just want you to know um, I'm exploiting you for the patreon episode you're on it Come on Um, we have a we have a little bit of a pickle here so we had to call the wives to figure out um, who won the the funniest patreon name Oh, okay, I like that. I thought you're gonna say something bad. No, no, no Okay, so we need your help in thinking of which which one you think is the funniest can the kids hear this or no? Um, I'm giving yeah, I'm giving a smoothie. I'll walk away Yeah, cuz unfortunately my kids heard all three and I didn't realize they were listening so okay So here is what we got the first name is a fat bitch who loves piss Call me a ppw Which is you know, we call the pseudo penis of the week, but it's a playoff of bbw, you know, but yeah, I don't know if you know So a fat bitch a fat bitch loves piss call me a ppw or we got lick and peanut butter off my dog's asshole Yeah, oh my god, or we have This is the one I predict she's gonna like or we have recycling day on my block a.k.a Chinese payday If I know my wife, I know which one she's gonna test. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't like the first day Yeah, nailed it. Yeah, so you're going to Chinese payday Only because the first I didn't I don't like the the P word. I don't I don't like that word, you know like that. Okay, and I don't like talking about dogs But okay. Yeah, thanks babe. We appreciate that. Thank you, Brittany. Thank you. We call the friend. We call the wife This is to this is this is how to be a millionaire Um, so that's what it is and I would imagine that all of NASA on Suffolk County Long Island would pick China That's the thing is I had a feeling that's where she was gonna go so she so our wives pick different ones Yeah, which shows you how hard this is this is so then I guess we're gonna have to go it seems like Ppw's the winner though Three to two to who Chinese payday Chinese payday so Chinese payday's the winner. It's the winner So Chinese payday congratulations go to history and his back.com you won the vote. This is this is a this is a history And his vote is also a wives vote recycling day on my block a.k.a Chinese payday congratulations name up in lights. 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