Karan Soni moved from India to California for The O.C.? | OMG Obsessed

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And it was the most popular thing in a very long time. But it was still, for me, it was me and my friends making something dumb. I'm a relatively shy person. I play a lot of boisterous characters. I'm really that way in life. Listen to Who's With Me with W. Kamau Bell wherever you get your podcasts. I became so obsessed with the OC that someone once told me you're like the Indian Seth Cohen, which is Adam Brody's character. And I was like, that's my whole personality. So I had my mom call me Seth. Hello, obsessives. This is your captain speaking. We have now reached our cruising altitude of fully fixated. And the casual interest sign has been turned off because on this show, we don't do casual interest. We do full-blown, can't stop, won't stop, make it our actual Wi-Fi password obsession. Welcome to OMG Obsessed. I am Zosia Mamet, and today's guest has quietly been in everything you love. He is Dopinder in the Deadpool movies. He is the voice of Spider-Man India, as well as the star of the incredible movie, A Nice Indian Boy. Right now, he is fighting retirement community monsters on Netflix, The Burrows. I am talking about Perrin Soni, and he is here today to tell us what he is obsessed with. Hi. Oh, my God. Okay. That was great. Does everyone get the airline part, the airline setup? No, just you. That's custom to me. That is special to you. That is custom to you. I cannot take credit for these openers. They are wonderfully written for me by my producers, and I purposely don't read them before because I always want to be a little bit surprised. And they didn't even know I had a mustache, and I still got it. They didn't even know. They didn't, but we all know now. It's for a job all summer, so I loved it in the beginning. You know, how it is. I'm sure you've had it, where you're like, well, this is a new look, and now I'm over it, but thank you. When does it get to be removed from your face? It's going to be removed September 1st. Oh, my God. But who's counting, right? Not you. Absolutely not. I also get a haircut September 1st, like a real haircut, which is exciting. Thrilling. Like, as a human, as a baseline, what level obsessive are you? Out of, like, a scale of 1 to 10. Sure. Yeah, we can do 1 to 10. It's interesting because when I was younger, I would say it was, like, a 9, because I had no sense of who I was. So I would latch on to certain things and become obsessed with them. But then as I've done therapy, I feel like it's gone down to, like, I'm at a 6, 7 now, because I'm not getting all my validation from something. External. But yes, it was very, very, very high. And then I still have certain things that I get a little very fixated on. Major overarching childhood obsession. What would you say that was? Pop culture. Like, I grew up in Delhi in India, and I would just get kind of obsessed with, like, film TV stuff. Bollywood, a lot of Bollywood stuff I would get very obsessed with. And then also, Harry Potter was a big thing. And then the OC, that was the biggest thing. That's what, like, brought me to this. California was that show, because I had never seen California. And then I became so obsessed with the OC that someone once told me, you're like the Indian Seth Cohen, which is Adam Brody's character. And I would call people at my friend group, Marissa. I picked a Marissa, which if you don't know the show, she's like a mess on the show. And this girl was so offended, even though I thought I'd cast it really well. But I became so obsessed that I literally, yeah, lied to school and everything to come out here. But that was big, because it was in high school that I watched it, and the characters were in high school. So then my entire personality, I was like, this is just my personality. And I have no other sense of, like, anything else. And I have met the cast, some of the cast, and it takes me right back to that place, since I have met them in real life, which is just beyond insane. Were you cool when you met them, or were you not cool? No. Well, I've met them. I've met two of them. The first person I met, I was so uncool. I went to USC, and I, at this point, which is also where Josh Schwartz, the creator of The O.C., went, which I didn't know at the time, but, you know, I ended up there. And so then basically, my dream school was UC Irvine. I really wanted to go to UC Irvine, because online, it was in Orange County. And so I really wanted to go there. But I've never been to California, so I was just like, I must. I love that you, like, get into USC, which is, like, by far the better school, and you're like, fuck! When I was applying for colleges, I had never been to California. We had been to New York as a family on vacation, and to Vegas, because my dad worked for John Deere, and we went to the John Deere convention in Vegas. So that was my. We would land in New York, then go to Vegas. So that's all I knew of America. So when I watched the O.C., and the kids were surfing, and they were dressed so cool, and everything, I was like, what is this magical place? Like, it was just this magical Orange County, not L.A. Like, I was specifically obsessed with that place. And then got the best deal at USC. So then I showed up, and I was telling people about this obsession with the O.C., and why I was disappointed I wasn't in Orange County. And they said, oh, you know, Josh Schwartz, like, went to USC, and he based the show on his experience at USC. And I said, who's that? Because I don't know about you, but I didn't grow up in the business of when I would watch film and TV, and it'd say written by, I couldn't care less. Like, I don't care. I was like, who cares? Like, I would just skip, like, you know, I'm not looking at who made any of this. I'm just obsessed with actors. So, and then my dream my freshman year of college was I just needed someone with a car to take me to Irvine, because I wanted to see it. And then I did convince someone to take me to UC Irvine for spring break for the day. And it was so boring. We just went, and we turned around and came right back. That was end of freshman year. I thought, what? This is stupid. Like, this is childish. This is stupid. It's over. Like, I'm over this. I'm now like an LA person, you know, whatever. And then I'm in this TV class at USC where there were, it was amazing. They would screen a show, a different genre, like a procedural or whatever, comedy. And then they would bring the cast and creators of the show, and you would ask them questions after, right? So we were doing this one week. They would tell us the week before who was coming so you could study the show or the genre or whatever. And I get the email, and it's one of the cast members of the OC. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to do this. And then I'm like, okay, we'll see. He had a new show called Southland, which was a cop drama. And they were like, he's going to come, Ben McKenzie. And I immediately just started losing my mind. It was like everything I thought I was cool about, I wasn't because I was like, I cannot believe I will be sitting in front of him. So you could, it was a very big class, like 300 students in a big theater, basically. So you could get there really early and get the front row seat and just basically stare at them if you wanted to. So I got there very early for that week. And I sat right in the center where I thought, you know, they would bring out the panelists or whatever. And he was sitting right in front of me. And I have hyperhidrosis, so I get very sweaty palms. And they were drenched. So I'm wiping them on my jeans. And it's like really bad. I'm like having a full-fledged, like, I'm just out of body experience that he's like right there. And then in this hour that I'm watching him speak, he keeps saying that he really wants to shed the image of the OC. He doesn't want to talk about it, which is why he took this show because he doesn't want to talk about it. He plays like a cop and whatever. Now I understand that. But at the time, I'm like, so stupid. I'm like, why would I want to talk about this show? I want to talk about the OC. So part of me was smart enough to be like, don't go up to him. What is there to say? He's literally said over and over, he doesn't want to talk about this. So I decide in the hour that they're speaking that my mind is going to every place. Like, what do I say to him after? What am I going to do? And then I decide, you know what? You don't need to say anything. What a crazy, cool life experience. He's right in front of you. And like, he's like, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't Yeah. that's it. It's done. It can end there. The class finishes. All these people are going up to the actors and the writers, whatever. And I decide to just leave. And I'm at the door of the classroom. And then I go, no, I need to shake his hand. So I turn around with my sweaty, sweaty hands. And he's, from my memory, he was talking to like a blonde sorority girl and enjoying it. And I physically moved to her side. But my hand out, like drenched in my sweat. And he didn't want to shake it. I insisted. So I grabbed his hand and I saw him like squirm at the moisture, I'm guessing. And I just said, the OC changed my life. And he looked so, so disappointed. And he was like, oh, okay. And then I was like, I'm not getting the reaction I want. So I wouldn't let go of his hand. And I was like, no, you don't understand. I'm only here because of the show. And he was like, are you happy here? And I was like, yes. And then he was like, okay, well, that's great. I'm happy for you. And then it ended. And then immediately I was like, that was bad. That was not good. You look so uncomfortable. But that was that. No, I'm just like, everything about this is incredible. And like, I also, I just fucking love that you had the balls to do that. And that you like, you committed to the bit. Okay, wait, have you and Ben met each other since? Yes. So we did meet again at a urinal. So then many years later, it's the natural progression of the story. So many years later, his wife is amazing actress is in the Deadpool movies. And we were having at the premiere for the second Deadpool, like big Hollywood premiere. And by that point, I was like, now I'm cool. Like I'm literally in the business. I'm like, I'm in the business. I don't need to be whatever about this thing or whatever. I saw him at the premiere. And I felt this need of like, I don't need to go up to him. I don't need to say anything. I genuinely feel like fine. And then the movie is about to start. It's like right after the carpet. So I just run to the restroom to use the bathroom. And he comes to the urinal next to me. And I'm just like, this is crazy. And he basically just turned to me and he's like, I just want to say I love your work. And I just kind of stood there and I didn't know what to say. And then I didn't bring up those or anything. I was like, Oh, thank you. And I think I was like, maybe cold, because I just didn't know how to react. And that was that it was like, that was the full circle. And then two years ago, I got to work with Adam Brody on Nobody Wants This. And I yeah, I'm friends with Kristen Bell. And she had texted me to come on the show. And I immediately was like, it's one thing to meet Ben at a urinal. It's another thing to act with Adam, who I literally pretended to be in real life. I tried to kind of play it cool. And then I did. I was able to not say anything. And then at the end of the day, I was like, should I say something? And then I decided not to say anything. He's gonna know. He's gonna know now. I mean, it is a little bit fucked of the universe to like, continue, like the fact that it was like, put it like, what are the odds? Like, how is that possible? What are the odds? Like to wrap this up, because I feel like we have to put a button on it. Yeah. What is your relationship with the OC now? Like, are you like, do we still watch? Does it feel like a different part of your life? I've watched every, probably the first season, like nine times. Second season, like six, seven times. Third season is the worst. Three times. Fourth season, like five, six times. I haven't done a rewatch in a few years. But I think I'm good on it now. You're good. That's it. I'm good on it. But like, it just holds a very warm, fuzzy feeling. I just feel this very nice. I would like to meet Josh Schwartz at some point. I know who he is now. Sure. Let's make that happen. 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You come to the New Yorker Radio Hour for conversations that go deeper with people you really want to hear from, whether it's Bruce Springsteen or Questlove or Olivia Rodrigo, Liz Cheney, or the godfather of artificial intelligence, Jeffrey Hinton, or some of my extraordinarily well-informed colleagues at the New Yorker. So join us every week on the podcast. So we need to get you and Josh Schwartz together. And there needs to be like a co-tarot reading. Yes. About like your, so which brings us to your maybe main obsession. I don't know if it's, I don't know where it falls. It's taken a backseat because I had a very dark experience. Oh my gosh. Oh my God. Okay. Well, please, please tell, the people need to know. What is it? Tell us about it. Talk to me like I'm an alien from outer space that doesn't know what it is. Okay. My other obsession is tarot card reading. And I know how to do it. So I basically, because I grew up in India, there's a lot of like fortune telling, a lot of all sorts. We have like tea leaves. We have like astrology. We have like palm reading. Like everywhere you go, you can find someone who does that. Who does this, some form of this. It's like very in the culture. When I was younger, my mom used to go to this like farmer's market kind of thing, outdoor market. And there used to be this lady there with like a little table and she would have the cards. And I just found the art on the cards like very beautiful. So sometimes I would walk around and she'd like, let me shuffle it and everything. And then my mom was kind of into these things, not really. And once in a while, she would like go to this lady and have her do the reading. And so I would just see the cards like spread out. And I just found them mesmerizing. I was like, this is like something is interesting here. So this lady saw me looking at it and she said, I'm going to gift you a deck. So she gave me a deck and she had all these, not rules, but beliefs about tarot. So one of the beliefs, let's start with this, is you should never buy your own deck. Bad. According to her, bad. Someone must gift it to you because they see it in you that, you know, you need the cards. So I started doing lessons with her and this was her tarot, which really made sense to me, which is that she believed that, that, you know how we only use 2% of our brain and like whatever 98% is like not used. So she believed that in our brain, imagine it like a supercomputer. It can kind of do the calculation of like how you're behaving in your life and it will predict your future in a weird way if it was able to use all 98% of it. So her belief was when the tarot cards are placed, you're not randomly picking. There's something in your brain that's like that one. That one in that position, that one in this position, and you're actually predicting your own future based on yourself. And so her biggest thing was there's no destiny. There's no like, this is meant to happen. Tarot is like a math calculation. Like here's what your past was. Here's what your current present is. Here's like what you're getting up to. And if you stay on this path, then this is what the future looks like. So you're able to actually change it. If you make enough changes, you pick with the left hand because the left is connected to the heart. This is all like memorized to me now. And then the tarot card reader has no powers. We card in position two means could mean this. No yes or no questions. So you can be like, will I get this job? Yes, no. You can be like, what will my career look like in the future? Then her final theory before she taught me like what the images and stuff mean was that going to the tarot card reader is like going to a doctor. So if you go to a doctor and you say, I'm sick, and that's all you tell them, no symptoms, what's happening, most likely they're going to guess wrong because there's so much for them to pick from. But if you go to the doctor and you say, oh, when I eat this kind of food, I have this reaction. Suddenly they can go, okay, I can use all this knowledge and be like, okay, it's pinpointing to these three things or this thing or whatever it is. And then I started reading for people. So I was 16 years old and my mom's friends would come over and I'd be like, let's go. And so it was very interesting. Because I would start reading and I would initially not follow her, what she had told me. So she had told me never just assume anything, just even if it feels off, if it's saying that, then just say what it's saying or whatever. So I knew some of my mom's friends and I'm like, this doesn't make sense about this person. So I would just kind of change what it was actually saying. And then it was like not really working, whatever. And then suddenly I was reading for some slightly different people. And I would suddenly catch them in this moment when I had been reading for some slightly different people. And I would suddenly catch them in this moment when I had picked up as a 16 year old on something that I shouldn't have known about them. And you could just feel them be like, oh my God. And so then I started getting a little bit of a reputation. And so a bunch of my mom's friends were telling their friends and then people were coming and I would have a little like thing. Oh, her final rule for Tara was never charge money. Like you can't be like this much per reading, but you can have a donation jar. And if the person gives no money, they give no money because you don't have a gift again. She was like, you're just interpreting this. So you shouldn't be like, oh, I don't know. Like profiting off it in a weird way. So I started predicting things and then I started predicting mostly bad things. And so. And so how bad? Like, like really bad? My cousin's miscarriage. She was eight months pregnant. And so it's really crazy because my cousin came to me and she was at the time, yeah, seven and a half months pregnant, like belly, everything out. And again, you can't ask, like, will my baby be healthy? Because that's yes or no question. So she asked, what will the health of my baby be? And she picked truly the worst cards. So at this point, I'm in my 16 year old ego of like, I have a reputation to uphold. Like I'm predicting some stuff that like slowly trickling in, you know, after a few months, people are like, actually, that did sort of happen, whatever. So I'm very much like, I need to keep my reputation going. So she picks all these bad cards and I go, it's bad. It's like really bad. Like everything is really bad. There'll be health issues, all this stuff. And then my mom is really mad at me because she, you know, my cousin's left and she was very kind of thrown off by it. And then my mom is like, why would you say that? And I was like, well, that's what she picked. Like she picked the whatever. And then two weeks go by and my mom was like, come into my room. And then she was like looking very haunted. And she said, your cousin just fell down a flight of stairs and she's lost the baby. And this is really bad because this was my obsession. I thought I knew it. I just was like, yep, that's right. Like I just had no, I was like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And she was like, you need to stop with that. You know what I mean? I was just like, whoa. It was like you'd become a doctor and you'd become like desensitized to it. Like how doctors are like, yeah, someone died. Yeah. It happened. Yeah. Someone, yeah, it happens. Wow. The plot took a very crazy twist because then my dad asked, he was not into any of this stuff. And suddenly he became very intrigued and he was like, I want to do a reading. And at this point, my mom was very like, this is black magic. This is dark. Like, you know what I mean? Like all this stuff. She was really freaked out by it. But I was like, oh, my dad wants to do it. Great. I'm going to do a reading. And so he asked a specific question, which is he was opening this warehouse for John Deere at the time in America. And it had been under construction for like two, three years or something. And he was going to fly in two weeks for the opening. And he said, how will my trip be? Was the question or something like that. Or how will this business trip go? And he picked really bad cards. And so I said, it's not going to be successful. So my mom is very upset again. Like, why would you say that? Because she thought I was putting bad energy out there. And then sure enough, like a week later, this warehouse burned down in an electrical fire and he didn't make the trip. And what's crazy is that every other it's in wasn't in a business district and every other building was fine. No, no, no. So at that point, I kept going because I was like, OK, this is something that I'm going to do. I'm on to something like this is really and I got really into it. And then my mom, who was actively trying to get me to quit, she was like, I've invited someone over today and you need to be home and you need to be there. And I was like, OK, sure. And it was the tarot card reader who had taught me. And she looked completely like traumatized and like not good. And she said, I've quit tarot. She told me this story, which really freaked me out at the time enough to be like, OK, I'm not going to do it anymore. So she said, I'm going to quit tarot. And I'm like, this lady came to her. She was like very disturbed, like looked very frazzled, really traumatized. And this lady basically came in and she said she was doing the patient thing of like telling the doctor what's wrong. So she said the last year I went on this trip. I wanted to leave this place with like something to commemorate the trip, like a statue of a god. And there were all these people at the bottom of the hill, like selling these like statues of the gods or whatever. And she picked this one statue. And the guy said, I'm going to quit tarot. And I said, are you going to take this away from this village? And she said, yeah, I'm going to take it to the city, whatever. And he said, no, you shouldn't buy this because the guy who made this, he was murdered. And so his stuff can't leave this location. And she he was like, but you can buy these ones. And they were twice the price. So she was just like, this is stupid. Like I'm being so she got the smaller statue, brought it back. And then she said ever since she's had this statue, she said things are just very different. Like she doesn't like the same food she used to like. She left it. And she said, I'm going to quit tarot. And she said, I'm going to different things. She's had gone all these medical tests. Nothing was wrong with her. And she was like, I'm starting to sound like a crazy person. But something is like really off and different about me. And I don't know what's wrong. As she's telling this story, she says she swore that she saw the face of a man appear in front of this woman and just go. No. And she was so scared. She left her own home. And then she had not touched the cards since then. So she was very scared. And very clear to tell me that the cards don't have anything evil. But because of this profession, you can sometimes invite people into your space who maybe are really have some heaviness. So that day I let it go. Holy shit. I did not see that going that way. Do you still own these decks? Like, do you have them or did you throw them away? You threw them away. Yeah. Have you ever done? My mom threw them away. Have you done a reading? Tried doing it. And I haven't done it myself, but I wanted to get mine done. And I looked around in L.A. But because this lady was such a mentor to me, I refused to pay for it unless it's a donation. And I hadn't found everyone is like, oh, this one. And I immediately go scam. The other thing is, I thought I wanted to predict my own future. And that was another one of the rules. You cannot read for yourself. You can't. OK. So it immediately switched to like I had to do it for other people. But if I found like a person, I would totally do it. But I think the next time I go to India, that's like my goal. There's another really crazy thing in India that I really want to try because they're into all these things. And people swear by this. It doesn't make any sense. I forget what it is like leaves or or something. There's a paper like a banana leaf or something. Anyways, you go to this place in South India and you give them just basic information where you were born, what time. And then you give them like two weeks and then you go and they have everything on this leaf the day you're going to die. Like, oh, these things. And people swear by it. And I'm getting more and more intrigued by wanting to get this done. Is this our new hustle? Is this how we pay for your air one addiction? We're like, we're going to bring this to L.A. We're going to post up at the base of Runyon Canyon. We'll do so well. We'll do so well. My friend is a witch and she I think who told me she would teach me how to read. Oh, she she reads. Yeah. She's like she's witchy as fuck. She's in New York. But I'm going to get you. Yes. A reading with her. The next time I would happily do that. I'm so she's super fucking sassy. She's amazing. She's like she's tinier than I am. She's like five two. But she's a fucking boss. And she has the first time I met her. I brought Frankie with me and she has a tiny dog named Lola, who's this like little Pomeranian. And I walked in and Lola was wearing a T-shirt that said security on the back of it. And I was like, I love this woman. This one. This is amazing. But I have an interesting relationship to it, having grown up in Los Angeles. And my mom was like she my buddy, Rebecca, who is the tarot reader. She has this saying for people who are like super, super woo woo. She calls them high woos. Sure. And my mom was like a major high woo. And so I sort of developed like an aversion to woo woo-ness because I was just like, because similarly to you, I would just be like this is bullshit like yeah this acupuncture body work yep medicine woman is literally selling you olive oil in a special bottle yeah and like you're paying her a thousand dollars a bottle to like rub olive oil on your your throat chakra I'm a little like prickly when it comes to that stuff and I've sort of like show me what you got yeah but I I'm also fascinated by it so I like I have like a sick curiosity hey it's Julia Louis-Dreyfus from the wiser than me podcast among other things and I've got a little holiday wisdom for you hosting during the holidays means lots of cooking and that means your trash is going to be full of smelly rotting food yuck so here's the wisdom get a mill food recycler I did we've had ours for years and it has totally transformed our kitchen it's unbelievable how much cleaner everything is now plus it's so easy to use you toss in 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in the pages of vanity fair so join me Mark Aduchi on youtube vanityfair.com and wherever you listen to podcasts it's all fair game hey everybody it's me W Kamal Bell this season on my podcast who's with me I speak with actor rapper producer David Diggs what doesn't he do the jump off for me was Hamilton and it was the most popular thing in a very long time but it was still for me it was me and my friends making something dumb I'm a relatively shy person play a lot of boisterous characters aren't really that way in life listen to who's with me with W Kamal Bell wherever you get your podcasts okay there isn't a great segue here currently that I've set up but like I know that you're playing with planes come on something with planes okay okay okay fuck fuck um we're making a connecting flight at Atlanta airport which is my least favorite airport in the entire world where all connections happen and one is always fucking delayed your third obsession is Pilates obsessed on the reformer I need to be clear not Matt I don't like Matt I don't fuck with Matt Pilates because to me it's not real basically it's yoga it's yoga which I which I also love which is great yeah um but the reformer is what fucks me up the reformer is what makes me unable to to sit on the toilet for the next week because I'm like like bending best okay how did you get into Pilates where do I need to go in LA talk to me about everything okay great okay so I got into it because my partner is a doctor um and he uh we had started dating and he was really into it at for that for this period of time because famously he's Indian as well and famously Indians have a really weak core um so our core muscles don't develop like as well like the way he explained it is like what would be like a crunch for a non-Indian it would take us like 10 crunches to get like the muscle activated or whatever and then he and the medical profession had seen a lot of disc herniation and um once it's herniated it's herniated and it's like really bad it spooked me enough that he was like just try this because he was like the reformer specific because his core is hard to train because other muscles will overcompensate for it um especially if it's weak you'll just pull from other parts so when you plank on that reform I mean you can feel it it feels like someone's like punching you know your stomach so my god I specifically got hooked because this place I go to has one because you gotta love the instructor that's a big part people don't talk enough about it and some Pilates instructors you gotta love the instructor and the music the music correct and then the instructors some of the LA ones they're so mean yeah that you know it's like it's too mean and so I found this lady I just happened to I kind of got really into it I was like I want to go again again again and then eventually I found this instructor and then that really got me into it because this I can't say her name because she watches everything I do maybe she'll know this anyways but she is the most iconic person on the planet so um so she basically uh basically does not stand up but she's during the class is consistently constantly talking about her dating life and it's crazy I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't like she's almost 50 yeah and she's really messy and she fantastic it's so entertaining that I got just hooked to going to her specific class I've been going to that for a very long time and I've seen her through several phases of life now she has locked students inside the studio and they've had to call 9-1-1 um because they were in the bathroom and she didn't check um the other day I mean earlier this year you know I am worried about her drinking I do get worried about it earlier this year of course she looked kind of rough in January and I said um are you okay and she was like well I'm doing dry January and I was like that's good that's really good I go back to class two days later she looks amazing like she has a glow like all this stuff so it's like the dry January is like you're feeling good and she was like dry January she's like I gave that up and I was like why and she said well my friend said something really wise I was like what did she say she's like my friend said why do dry January when you know the rest of the year is going to be wet as hell now the stupidest thing I've ever heard but you're not going to hear that in spin let me tell you you're not you're not going to you were you're not going to hear that in spin and the other thing I don't know if you feel this way blah blah blah blah blah I love being a good student and oh my god yes once you get better at it you start getting call outs in class and there's nothing better the Pilates high is they go they point to you and they're like crying in the corner you want to do it like that and the high I get from that every single time sometimes I'll be like I got seven call outs today one better than that is when they're like I'm going to share actually current can you just show everybody how to do that pose really quick okay watch how he's doing x and you're just like you're like great I'm going to walk out into traffic after this because it doesn't get better that's it does not get better my little sister will do like she'll do like parodies of spin teachers that bring because I used to spin a lot too and now I'm like how did I ever I used to do double soul cycles same what was I but Clara sometimes when I'm just randomly she'll out of the blue just be like let's take it up and I'm like I get full like PTSD flashbacks when I hear that I'm just like oh what are you climbing towards did you ever get emotional when they would get to the point where they do like not therapy but like they start talking about like life and stuff but I also think it's because my my like cortisol levels were at such a high and my muscles were broken down to a level of just like yeah like becoming wet cotton candy that I just everything in me was just like the emotions were running so high because my body was like what's happening to wrap this up you can pick between the three of your obsessions so the OC tarot or Pilates but I want to I'm going to time you I want a one minute pitch on that obsession are you ready go everyone's traveling so much it's the summer uh what's the biggest thing that's happening when you're traveling in the summer you're picking up your carry-on suitcase which let's be honest you packed it way too heavy and you're putting it in the overhead and what's happening without you realizing is you're straining your back you're straining your back a lot and the minute it breaks it breaks for life um it herniates for life uh imagine you just don't have that anymore uh and there's just one fix there's an easy fix for all of it which is the reformer which is the Pilates reformer um you get on that reformer you can get on any plane you can lift anything all the while knowing that your discs are strong and they're not going to herniate you you might be thinking who cares about a herniated disc I have insurance you know what they do it either full back surgery, which doesn't fix the problem, or they take a steroid injection and inject it into your disc. I had that earlier this year. I had that in my neck earlier this year. You did? Yeah. Oh my god. Did it hurt? Well, they put me under for it. Okay, smart. So no. I got to go under, which I fucking love. I was like, oh, I understand why Michael Jackson died of this drug, because it's the best sleep of your fucking life. Okay. You have given us so much time. You are a dreamboat. This was so fun. Oh my gosh. I cannot wait to go to Pilates with you. Can I praise you on camera before we finish? Which is, we met doing a film. You worked on it for one day, and you came and left, and the experience happened where people did not stop talking about how good you were, and how amazing, and all of the things. And days, weeks later, you know, we would do a difficult scene, and they were like, but remember her. She was just so good. And it was true. It was all true. You really made a very, very big impression on everyone. So there's that. That's so nice. Thank you. I had so much fun working with you. Yes. I hope we get to do it again. Everybody needs to go watch your shit. The Burrows, A Nice Indian Boy, Spider-Man. You're the best. Yes. Thank you so much. And remember that no obsession is a dumb obsession. Even, because look where it might get you. Yes. The OC, hello. What? Stay obsessed, people. You might, it might bring you to California and a career in Hollywood. Yeah. That makes complete sense and will definitely happen. It makes total sense and will definitely happen. If you haven't subscribed to Lemonada Premium yet, now is the perfect time. You can listen to OMG Obsessed completely ad-free. Plus, you will unlock exclusive bonus content, like even more obsessive level details from my guests. Just tap that subscribe button on Apple Podcasts or go to LemonadaPremium.com to subscribe on any other app. You can also listen ad-free on Amazon Music with your Prime membership. OMG Obsessed. Thank you.