The conversation centers on personal identity, societal pressures, and gender dynamics. The group reflects on their individual choices about Botox, emphasizing that rejecting anti-aging norms is a form of self-empowerment and resistance to industry-driven beauty standards. They critique how modern celebrity culture prioritizes performative emotions and deceptive health claims, citing the fraudulent blood-testing startup where a founder exploited vulnerable individuals. The discussion expands to gendered experiences in professional and public spaces, where women face greater scrutiny over appearance and behavior compared to men, who are often seen as neutral or acceptable. The group also shares personal anecdotes about bathroom experiences, including awkward moments at concerts and public restrooms, highlighting cultural discomfort and lack of privacy. These stories underscore broader themes of bodily autonomy, social expectations, and the disconnect between traditional and modern cultural narratives. The conversation also touches on nostalgia, particularly through references to Disney Channel classics like *Lizzie McGuire* and *Halloween Town*, reflecting on how childhood media created shared cultural experiences now fading. Finally, members share personal routines, like showering and self-care, emphasizing sensory preferences and the importance of individual comfort, all while acknowledging the growing cost and complexity of accessing live events and personal wellness. The tone remains lighthearted, blending humor with thoughtful reflections on identity, consumerism, and evolving social norms.
(upbeat music) - Welcome to Justice Girls, it is Paige, Katie, and Sam. - Quick housekeeping, we're gonna visit the '90s today. I'm kinda dressed like '40s today. - You are. - I love those pants. - And I also, we've been seeing each other for a little while now. You guys haven't noticed I got Botox, finally. - Well, you told us in the group chat. - Did I? - You did. - Oh, you did. - You really sent us a voice note and you said, "I just left Botox." - That's like, but then you were like saying other things. - But if it makes you feel like it, you always look like you had Botox to me. You look great, but you all look great. - I mean, they're not doing anything right now. They're not existing. - Hey, I just wanna say I'm the only one that doesn't get Botox. - No shame, I don't have Botox girlies. - That all represent the crowd that doesn't get it. - Mine's not in right now, as you can see. - So you remember seeing clips from the pond. I'm like, whoa, it's really clear that I don't get Botox. - No, but that's a good thing. That's a good thing. They're saying that's the tough part about actors and actresses now. - That's a good thing. - They're not emoting. - Yeah, like a Millie Bobby Brown in the last season of "Stranger Things." - I'm angry. Like it is wild. Like in her, like, what's it called? The face you make. What's that? - Moggy. - Moggy. - What are you talking about? - I have no idea what we're talking about. Game. - What is it? - Moggy. - It's 'cause I'm cool, like, game. - What, you think you're Gen Z? - What's it called? - Moggy. - Moggy. - Moggy. - Moggy. - Yeah. - What is it called? - I don't know, oh. - Oh, no, you were saying anger. I'm just don't ever heard that word. - No, it's like, yeah, you, I mean, that's just the face she was making the whole time, no matter what situation she was. - God, yeah. - Yeah. - Well, I will emote for all of us. - Thank you, I appreciate you're gonna fart for all of us and you're gonna emote for all of us. - I will do it all. - Have a good lady of this. - I wish I could be every time I am thinking about getting Botox, I think to myself, no page, age gracefully, age gracefully, and then I do it anyways because society and life for me, it's the glow. Like, you get a glow when you get both times. - You do, actually, and what are the people joke about? It's like, you have Botox forehead, like when a light's on you, you're forward. - I love that movement, maybe. - You did it to that shine. - I think if I didn't have this job where I had to look at my face every single day over and over and over and over again, I wouldn't do it. - Y'all, being pregnant for sure. (laughing) - And those pants, and your chains, y'all. (laughing) - I'm chill with my Timmy. - Being pregnant postpartum and filming yourself. - I've loved your content about being postpartum in the GLP1 season. - Did you know I thought of you when I made that? - I've definitely re-shared all of it, but I think for me, being in the field that I'm in, like the anti-aging marketing towards women really fits in with Diet Culture, I'm not saying that you guys are subscribed in the public. - Oh, it does, yeah, it absolutely does. - No, and I truly have no shame for people to do it. I went through an active, like, dissonance, like, should I do it? Should I not, should I do it? And I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna do it. And I just kind of committed to that. - I think it's one of those things where I don't shame any woman who does. I don't like when people shame women who are like, they have Botox, they have filler, or even they feed into Diet Culture. I'm like, the air are companies that spend millions and billions of dollars convincing us that we need that. - Yes. - Like, convincing everyone has autonomy to do whatever they want. - But it's almost, you do, but also you can't discount the societal conditioning you've had. Like, I was joking the other day. I was like, every time I eat a piece of bread, I think that's a car. - Yep. - Not because I'm not gonna eat the bread. I'm gonna eat the bread, but I think about it because that's how I grew up was like, oh, don't have carbs at breakfast and don't have too many carbs and you've already had a piece of bread today. So maybe don't have bread at lunch. And I'm like, I, I remember that so vividly when I was younger and now I don't care. - Yeah, now you can be and I'm being, that's an interesting thought. Let that go. - Yeah. I love having like the theorem for how I'm having it out. - Let's talk about it. - That's not exactly what it sounds like in my brain, but that thought. - Mine is literally like, oh fuck it, I'm gonna eat the bread. - Yeah, I'm always sputtered by it. - It's always the opposite of what was at Kate Moss. Nothing tastes as good as skinny food. - Yeah, and I'm always like, I don't know, I'm just saying it's pretty good. It tastes pretty good. I'd rather be a little jubbie and not hungry. - Yeah, I mean, we fight, but you know, the patriarchy is there. We're trying to be better than the patriarchy, but sometimes it slips in. - Also though, like you, not for nothing, it's like men can show up to this, I get messages about this a lot where it's like, men can show up to the office, same outfit, same tie, same shoes, same hair, same face, every single day. And they get promoted. If you are a woman who does not appear the way that they want you to appear, you don't get promoted, you don't get raised. People will judge you differently in the workforce. - Well, what about that girl? - Elizabeth, Elizabeth, the founder. - The founder. - Is that the founder? - The one who's in jail? - Yeah, they're anonymous. - Yes, the Steve Jop, the blood, the blood, the faking, the fraud. - Yes, so she, she was free to go. - Well, she wore a turtle neck every day. - She wore a Steve Jop. - She was cosplaying Steve Jop. - Yeah, but I'm just saying. - But all the men gave her money, they, I watched a ton about her, but it's like, she was still a pretty blonde woman. - Thin, pretty blonde woman. - Yeah, but it's like, it's time a woman scams men, you know? - I'm all for your fault. - I was for her. I think it was a weird thing she did, but. - Yeah, what blood, I don't know what she said, but I support it. - I don't love it. - I don't love what she did to the people who gave their blood. - Yes, that was sad. - I don't, I think that's not okay. Scamming men out of their money totally fine. Honestly, we should all be, we are owed quite a lot. - You know how I feel about this? - We are owed quite a lot of money, but I think what she did with the blood, that was pretty bad. - What did she do with the fucking blood? - So she basically, what is going on over here? - Didn't you, there was a Hulu series with Amanda. - A siphon. - Yes, and. - I'm gonna watch that. - Yeah, yeah. - It all came back, mom and me. - She's a great singer. - She is. - She's so tall. - I love her. - So tall, it's just funny. - So funny. - Yeah. - She's a good fan. - Yeah, I really like her. - You too. - Anyways, so she played Elizabeth, who started the company, and basically she said she dropped a Stanford, was it? - Yeah. - And she said she was starting a company where with one drop of blood, you could scan for all these health issues. - That's easy. - And it would be like a very quick turnaround. And she kind of led people to believe she already had the machine in place that could do this, but she did not. And so she was just basically lying to people, and they were taking blood samples, but they were giving them the right way. - What did she do with the blood? - We don't know, I think she faked it. Faked it so you make it, she was just lying. - Oh, I thought she did something weird. - No, a bunch of people were leaving the company, 'cause they're like, it's all a scam. - Yeah. - It's not a scam. - Because it sucks, people were like, I wanna check if I have cancer, so I'm gonna give a drop of my blood, and then she gave it. - So there's a very vulnerable population and it's got it. - Yeah, it was very sad. - Yeah. - When she did two people. - Yes. - But to men, honorable. - Yeah, like just another man who's scamming. - It's complex. And then she got pregnant while she was going through the trial with that man's baby. - Every thought she was doing it to get a lesser sentence, like they won't sentence the mother to as much time in jail. But that's still a little weird, like doing that, knowing I don't know how much she got. - And there's a biological clock. (laughing) - I don't know how much time she got. - I don't either, actually. - Yeah, but she did wear a lot of turtlenecks. - She did, but I'm just saying she had a uniform. - I like when people have a uniform. I know I mentioned this last week, but I am going to know a calm this summer, and the overall situation that he does a lot. I like that, like I like when you know. - And you know, I don't know that I look as good in the French braid. - But you're like, I look good in the overalls, but the French braid, no, I actually don't know that I'm wearing the overalls either. I haven't worn an overalls since I was a little child. - Oh, I have. - I've ended up a lot of farm tours lately. - Yeah, you have. They have a cute barrel gene ones. Now the gas barrel gene one is like a, they call it the horseshoe. - Yes, those are cute. - Free people through like some of the clothing, rental ones, they have really good ones that I've rented. - And a cute pair with like all this embroidered stuff on it. - Cute, wear it. When are you going to wear the overalls again? - Never. - Embrace it. And it's so comfy, you have so many pockets, especially for a concert. Oh, great. - I need pockets for a concert, but also I need-- - Like cargo pants. - Reel, wear it in your chest. - I can't allow to see your chest think. - The bathroom, going the bathroom in overalls. And I'm going to be at Fenway. If you kind of like a romper, you can use to it. - If you've never been to Fenway, the bathrooms aren't great. - You can. - My husband told me that in the bathrooms at Fenway, I don't know if they're still there, for peeing for the men, it's a trough, so it's just one big thing, and they all pee into the same thing. - You know, I'm happy you brought this up, because coming in on the train today, I had to go to the bathroom afterwards. And the line for the women's bathroom was so, so long. Of course, the men were just walking in an at the station, not at the station, because they had to wear gender neutral on the train. - And so I just find it, I was sitting there, and I was just watching men come in and out. What is the protocol? I wonder, I don't know. - Well, it's sexual healing design. - Urinal, urinal. - Urinal. - It's usually like two stalls, and then you're an adult. - But like, so men just go in, like, do you see each other's penis? - Yes, of course they do. - No, I don't have a husband about this. - You don't look. - You don't look. - You just straight, you don't even see their ass. - No, they can't keep their pants on, they pull it out, yeah. - Yeah, you whip your dick out, you don't even see the butt. - Such an interesting concept. - Yeah. - I honestly wouldn't mind peeing next to you guys. Like, I don't need a stall, I'd appreciate it, I like some privacy, but I wouldn't care. But we do have to take everything. - It's different. - Yeah, I would never, like, we've also given birth, so it's like, I don't care. - But it's just like a Brazilians, I mean, it's such an interesting concept to me that all these men just walk in together, just whip it out, and then just leave. - Oh, there's a whipping in it. - I feel like that's like a funny experience. - No, I had a friend growing up, like in my 20s, not growing up, like in my 20s, and he was very pea shy, so my husband, they would always roast, and they're like, "Here he goes into this stall again." - I am? - Because he couldn't do it. Like, he would go to the urinal, and he could not go. He's like, "I can't. I can't with all of you here." So that happened to him. - Oh, no. I hope not. - Yeah, I hope not. - I hope not. - I hope not. - I hope not. - I hope not. - Yeah, I hope not. - Yeah, I hope not. - I hope not. - Yeah, I hope not. - I hope not. - I hope not. - I hope not. - Can't something just be funny for a minute. (laughter) - I don't know, but there's something also about, like, a concert, like a summer concert, and a summer tailgate. - Oh my. - Because you're always, like, the porta-potty situation. It's like, "I'll go in any bathroom at a country concert." - Okay. - Yeah, you've got, like, you're a little buzzed up. I'm like, "17 Dave Matthews concert."
tattoo the dancer. - I am. - Dancing Laugh. - You love that for her. - Is it an in-dancing dancing? - It's one of his songs. But that is like the summer tailgate. Like I can smell the marijuana and like the beer in my hand and like you smell pee from the porta-potty and you're just, oh, that's like a little bit of that. - Did you guys do it? Like I like country music. You probably wouldn't catch me dead at a country concert other than the chicks right now or Mayor Morris. - I haven't even been to any. - I don't know about country concerts. - I went to so many country concerts. - I have 20s. - Those were always the craziest. - Yeah, I love. - Can you show fun? - Well, Kenny Chessy? - Yes, I've been to Kenny Chessy. - I've been there for a ton. I've been to festivals, I've been to concerts. - The country ones were always so, so fun. - Yeah. - Now I feel unwelcome. I couldn't be there now. - You choose. - Which ones? - Which ones? - Yeah. - Like I wouldn't go to Morgan Wall and-- - No, no. - Do you see what he just said to his concert? - No, what did he do? - Oh my gosh. So what are the security guards? - Like a fan gave a security guard their phone to tape him because she was right next to the stage. So she had it in like selfie mode 'cause he was right behind. And I guess he thought the security guard was just taping him instead of doing her job. So he grabs the phone and chucks it. - Oh. - And yeah, it's just like-- - It could just be nice to people. - You could just say, "it's gonna hurt it all." - Okay, to you, even if she is though, she's a security guard who wants to get a video of Morgan Wallet. - Well, it's like, you know, it's like even to you if a phone $1,000 is nothing to you. You have a private jet, you're doing stadium tours. That could be a lot of money to somebody. - That's like Miranda Lambert. Remember when she shaved the people in the front row? Did you see that? - They were literally turning around and taking a video with her in it, like excited. And she basically just shamed them from like everyone's on their phone, like you paid for it. Like they want to be there. They're taking a video of you. This is gonna go on social media. - You know what's, so I've been to a lot of country concerts and you know, Dirk's family. - Yeah. - Him and I were tied to the universe. - I run into him places. - My friend was on his butt. He had a good thing they all went on. - He is. - He's a very nice man. - A wonderful human being. - Yeah, very nice. - When I've seen him live too, I have been to country concerts. - But like I, my sister, - Farmborough, New York City, Roosevelt Island. I went, it was amazing. Sorry. I've seen a lot. - Brian, I'm like, I don't know. - I call back. - You know what? - Okay. - Do you remember when she was like, "My therapist, I block everything out." It's like a black hole. It's like it just comes out. - My therapy comes out here. Sorry, M-A-D-H-D. She just cuts out. - I was about to say, I think it was more A-D-H-D. I've run him at a pizza place. - Does he know you? - Does he go with him? - I hate her area. - No, he lives in Arizona. My sister lives in Arizona. And when I'm out there visiting her, I tend to just run into him. And then like I went to a country concert. - This is how she's writing it off and not a stocking. She's like, I just, we're just constantly talking. - I'm telling you. It just tends about things. - And Dirk Spentley is like filing restraining orders. It's like, no. - He was motherhood creator. - He loved me. So I was at, it's called Country Thunder out in Arizona. - And I named her. - I know. - This was also, this was pre, I don't know. I feel like every country got a lot darker. - Country got darker. - Country is now like that. - Code it as magon, definitely. - Yeah, because then there's like Zach, what's his name? - Zach Bryan. - No, it's Zach Bryan. - Zach Brown. - Zach Brown, who's like, I. - He's open for Dave Matthews a couple of times. - He's like, I am gonna open for the UFC fights because I love America. And I'm like, but this isn't about America. The UFC fights, and he's, he keeps saying something like, our troops. And I was like, what does that have to do with this UFC fight? That's like doubling down on like, in Chris Brown. It's the same kind of thing. - Yeah, it's weird. - Yeah. - Anyways, back to Dirk's family. - Sorry, back to Dirk's family. - So I was at Country Thunder. And I really had to pee, but the lines were so long and there was this like, pour to potty. That was like, pour to line backstage. And I was like, right next to it. - And you know. - And you know, it was like a big field with the stage. And you know, like back then, I'm like a, you know, I'm 20, whatever. I'm whatever. I'm like, I can do it. - You're really nilly. - So I go to the pour to potty and I'm peeing and I'm like, oh my gosh, like what if I see like, Dirk's family back here or something. I open the door when I'm done. I hit Dirk's family with pour to potty. - Yeah. - I tell you, I just like, intuition. - You manifest. - You manifest Dirk's family. - Yeah. - You know, my husband calls pour to potty 'cause he has to use a lot of them 'cause he works on those. - As a line man. - As a line man, alignment. They call them the blue saunas. - The blue saunas. - The blue saunas. - Yeah. - Because they're always blue and really hot inside. - Ew. - Yeah. - At like, I'm on like that. - If I stub my shirt, I really don't like that. - So that the other day and he's like, I mean, it feels exactly like being in a sauna with him. - Oh, especially with a summer. - That's really sad. - To have to go in there. - Well, they don't have like, they'll just be somewhere, like, you know, and they have to back through him. - They don't think that they have those 'cause if they didn't, they would just going on the side of the road. - Yeah, actually one of the guy he worked with during COVID, you know, everything was shut down. There was no public restroom. You couldn't go anywhere. He was outside of his truck and like, peed in the woods and weren't. Somebody called him, reported him. I think he's an exposure and the guy's like, I just have to pee. - Let him pee. - Yeah, he's a hot man. - He's a hot man. - Peel the golf course. - 'Cause they? - Who's peeing on the golf course? - Oh, that's a good thing. - They go into the woods. - Yeah, they just like get drunk and go. - Like a public golf course? - Yeah. We need to pull them in. - I've never seen that. - Okay. - Gaves, again, nodding yes. I mean, what is going on? - Yeah, and my guy just pulls his dick out and goes behind a tree. You guys don't know this. - Well, can I talk to you? - Your husband. - My house, my house backs up to a cemetery, so nobody should be there, typically unless they're grieving. We were outside for Easter. Sometimes we're in our pool and they'll say, I'm sorry. I got distracted for a night. Why are we talking about a cemetery? - I'm about to tell you. We were grilling. It was a beautiful day. The kids were playing on the playground. We see three men who were in the cemetery walk into the woods. And I'm like, that's weird. 'Cause there's woods between us, but like we see three men walk through the woods. They all just start pissing at us. I just leave men being at us. And I don't think they realized we were there. And we were like, hello? And there was, and then I was like, guys, men just feel too comfortable with our penises. - You know? - I wouldn't just put my tits up. - My tits up. My tits. I apologize to Sam here. I'm not wearing a bra. I was like, I don't know. Is that a bad thing I don't care? - Yeah. - I'm just not going to wear one. - But like you're apologizing, we can't see anything. - Yeah, I know. - I feel too embarrassed. I don't give a fuck. - Yeah. - I don't either. But like one time somebody commented on my own video, she's like, I can see your bra. I'm like, what is this? 1974? Like that's my not allowed thing. Can you not? - For even Nippin. - Shame. - Shame. - Shame. - Literally. I was like, it's a strap. My apologies. - One day you were tied, right? Next year, a heart lit. (laughs) I felt very ashamed to end those swings. I really did. - Wait, you know what? Concert. I just bought a ticket too. That I cannot wait to go to. Hillary Duff. - Oh, I want to go. - A group of my girl friends were getting a bus. I'm going to see Hillary Duff, bought a lawn ticket. - So fun. - I'm going to be honest. - I love a lawn ticket. - Not a lawn ticket. - Great for Dave Matthews. - That's like only song and lawn the majority. - I actually realized I do, I don't know if I know any Hillary Duff songs besides. - I don't know. - I don't know if you need to beach song and, hey now, hey now. But is she going to play that or is that like under Disney property? - I don't know. - And then what's the one that everyone does the dance too? - Hmm. - So I don't even know that. - Is he going over and to talk? - I don't know. - She does the dance. - She does the dance but like everybody gets excited about that and I'm like, I don't, am I supposed to remember that? Is that from Lizzie McGuire? Is that from Hillary Duff? - No, I'm too busy with the AI dances. - Yeah, were you into Lizzie McGuire as a child? - I was like, was, but I feel like there were almost a little borderline. - I wasn't to her. - I was really into her. - Yeah, I mean, I, I liked her. I wasn't like, yeah. - I remember like watching it when I came home from school. Like I just remember watching that. - Yeah, yeah. - In the little, I had some weird fashion in middle school and my friends would call me Lizzie McGuire because I'd be wearing like yellow tights. - I feel like you still kind of dress like Lizzie McGuire. - I don't think so. - I don't know if that's a compliment or not. - It is. - Really? - I don't think she does. - I think this is where I would wear like weird hats and stuff. - But I think she would wear this as like a 35 year old. - Maybe. - Yeah, maybe. - I like Lizzie. She was great. She was cool. I just like, I remember the movie. I don't really remember the show. - Did you watch her in younger? - Younger? - Yeah, I like younger. I thought younger was good. - You've never watched it. - I've never watched it. - I don't know what it's like. - I don't know. - We don't know. Oh, Sutton Foster. - Sutton Foster. Wait, you haven't watched it. - I know, but now I'm like, Sour, I love Sutton Foster. But now with the huge equipment of it all, it's kind of sad because he left his wife for her and he's been with his wife for like 26 years. - Yeah, I didn't know that. - The very sad of the world. - I think people said his huge equipment was gay. - I think they say that because it's a man who sings and dances and we just got to let that not be the narrative anymore. - Oh, it was the great issue. - Yeah, I didn't know because it was Timothy Schalme, Zach Efron. - Yeah, Zach Efron has had so many random, they're like, we found Zach Efron in a body of water and then we're like, is he dead? No, he's fine. And it's like, what is going on with Zach Efron? - It's really sad. - Do you remember that news article? - No, I feel like the body of water. - Does it make it more and more work on his face? - Yeah, they found out my skin broke. - Well, no, they found him once right and his jaw broke. - This is all hearsay, allegedly. - Oh, is it? - I don't know how many of us. - I don't know, allegedly. - Which I feel like could be a legal issue. - Yeah, don't, yeah. - Okay, we don't know. - Okay, well, you need to watch younger if you have it. It's a great challenge. - I really love something faster. - Before I got my book deal, like that's the only thing I knew about publication was younger. - Oh, yeah. - It's so fun. - Yeah, it's a really good show. - The problem with me is like, I can't commit to something if it's not in the cultural zeitgeist. - I rewatched during the COVID time. So it's like, I feel like that was the time we were all rewatching everything because nothing new was being made. So we had to just like watch all these stuff. No, but I like, I like throwback. I don't watch a lot of like old shit. Yeah, I don't go back and watch a lot of old shows, um, old music, for sure. - Yeah. - Up to. - Yeah, up to some old music, but not shows. Well, it got me, well, I was like trying to figure out what songs would be at this Hillary Duff concert. And I was like, is it a set list? - I don't. I should look it up. I usually look up a set list. - Yeah. - Because I like to know the vibe. I'm going into it. But I was like, is it going to be songs from the Lizzie McGuire movie? - I think she does play some throwbacks, but it is some of her new music too. - She has new music. - Yeah, she's like a music video. - Yeah. - That was the concerts for it. I thought it was like a. - The marketing's off if that's what's happening, because I had no idea. - Yeah, she has new music.
If your song is in viral and TikTok, I might not have heard it. You know, it transparently. It's honestly true. That's very true. She was on Jake Shane's podcast, I believe. I mean, she's definitely doing it. She is. Oh, she's got a lot right now. Well, she's just making me think that Mom drama, the Mom group drama ever made because it's like, well, the only one who fell out from that was Ashley Tista. And it's like, Hillary Duff is now doing a tour and more commented on that too, which I was very surprised by because they felt like she wouldn't say anything and she's been very much in like the mom's fear. Yeah. But she made a comment. She was like, I was really sad because I just feel like that's not representative of us. I was like, oh, interesting. I was just surprised anybody said anything because normally I feel like because celebrity culture has changed so much and the fourth wall has kind of been broken where it's like they're on social media. They're on podcasts. They're just so accessible these days that they are acting more like influencers in a sense where like, I'm going to respond to that where old celebrities would be like, you respond to nothing. Yeah. You have like a PR statement, you have a PR statement, you just ignore it. I feel like now more and more celebrities are like, I'm going to write a article about this. I'm going to make a video about this. Yeah. Why? I would never do that. I don't know, but they're also doing like, you know, brand deals and podcasts and I don't know. Like it's, what is decommodified? Is that how you would say? I don't know. I like the days where it was like, yeah, you were celebrity. Like you saw about like a TV commercial. Well, I actually heard somebody saying like, it's kind of funny now because like when you say Timothy Shalame, Lizzie McGuire, when you see them on something, you think, oh, wow, Hillary does doing a really good job at this role. You don't think like, you're not really buying the character. You're buying Hillary Duff as the character, Timothy Shalame as the character. The reason they were saying they thought people like to off-campus so much was because so many of the actors were unknown, so you really don't even, you don't associate with them with anything else. Same with she did rivalry. I didn't. They were just who they were on the show. Wait, you believe the most as those characters. The same way that Jennifer and I think can never not be Rachel Greene to some people because that's like the character she was most known for. She'll always be that to them that you assert at a certain point in celebrity. You get to a point where it's like, everybody will answer. Harry Potter. Daniel Radcliffe. You're always going to remember. Yeah, never. Never be anything else. I will say Emma. I think did a good job. Like I still think of her as Hermione, but I think she did a good job of being someone else. I always think about when she went to Brown, where like the first time she raised her hand, it's her question apparently. Somebody was like, "10 points for Gryffindole." That's so epic though. I mean, a gift for her. Yeah, I mean, that was epic. And she went to Brown. She's always smart. Yeah. She's been an actress though. She has been in other things. But I always think I remember as a kid being like, "Oh my gosh, they're going to college." It was always a story. I remember when Natalie Portman went to college and was like, "Wow, Natalie Portman's going to college." Yeah. Wow. I am so excited for this new Harry Potter show that HBO went. Yeah. I was out during Christmas. I've never seen the movies. Did you read the books? No. Of course not. I don't think I've ever met somebody who has that. What movies did you watch when you were younger? What books did you read Sam? Mm. Nancy Drew. I just say, "Bridge to Terrace." Did you read Nancy Drew? My daughter's reading it. I just told me this in the cab. Yeah. My daughter, the other day, was like, "Mom, they're coming back." Like, that was a good thing. I mean, I bought them for her. I didn't know if they're coming back. But I was like, "She's learning way too much from these books. I have to take them away." Because she was like, "What's an inheritance?" Who's a lawyer? I was like, "What are you talking about?" Do you know what? The movie I watched all the time as a kid, and Scooby-Dale, Grease. Okay. Wait. This song's in here. Oh, it's so good. Okay. I was thinking about the Lizzie Empire movie. Grease reminds me of it. Because I was thinking about high school musical and how high school musical was like the Grease. I can't look at those songs. I'm in that generation. I'm talking about my head. No. High school musical was not the Grease of that generation. Yeah. I actually have never seen high school musical either. I have like a lot of never have I ever zone here. Yes, it was. Grease? No. Yes. No. Grease is like, I think Grease isn't a league of its own. It is. I mean, there's nothing like that. I don't think we can say yet because there hasn't been a time like passing. Okay. I think at the time adults, teenagers, kids, everybody watch Grease. I've watched Grease. Sam's watched Grease. My kids have watched Grease. Everybody's watched Grease. Right. My parents have never once watched high school musical. Yeah. It's not multi-generational. Yes. It's going to hit like the younger. Maybe it'll be when the people who are the oldest now that have watched it are like great grandparents. We'll show our kids. Yeah. So maybe it will be. But that's what I saw Grease because it came back in the theaters for like the 25 year anniversary my mom took me to see. My parents put it on TV. Oh no. I watched it. Yeah. Yeah. I watched it like three times. Well, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Four or five and we went to the movie theater because my mom was like I need to initiate you into Grease. I mean, anyways, tell us what you're going to tell us. I don't think we're going to agree on this. Yeah. That's five. Yeah, that's five. Grease has physical conversations. I'm a strong passionate person. It's fun. It's cool. And Timothy Shalamey. So I was curious because I was thinking about Disney Channel original movies. And I had a good one. Zena. I mean, like, it pains me that our children I feel like we'll never have that like collective experience. That's like you're right. I know. It's getting pizza. Yeah. Watching the Disney Channel original movie. And I was like talking to my friends about different original movies, like which ones they loved. And so I was curious. So I looked up like the top 10. Okay. So we had a ring. I did do. So I, I caveated it to say before 2005. Yeah. Because high school means school then overtakes like everything for you. And I knew that would make free. Free. No, bros. So what do you think was a number one rated Disney Channel original movie? Hell in town. I have no like pages right. Fuck yeah. I knew it. Because you know what? I watch that show and repeat every fall. I'm in Halloween town. Halloween town. So good. It is so good. I knew it. Yeah. Marnie. She's the best. What a smart house. One of them. Smart house. That's great. That's third. Okay. Smart house was like etched into my brain. I mean, it's a little bit not fun to watch anymore. No, no. It's a little scary now. It was a little too accurate. I think actually, please don't suck up the popcorn. Yeah. It was all fun to game. So if I need a pump up, I'll listen to like slam down the funk. A virtual take top dance. I was waiting at every high school party I went to. Like one of the guys going to get in the middle and do slam down the funk. Men weren't that cool in real life. I think it really weren't. It was an ice skating one. Like a main. I know what you're talking about. I know it. I'm not as good with the names. Not a top 10. Let's bring in the top 10. Brink is. Coming in at five. I'm so good. Did you notice that? No, I did. I knew Brink would be in the middle. Because it's not the best. Yeah, but to say so. Is Zina on like seven? No. Is Zina on the list? It is. Is it two? Yeah. No, I love Zina. But I didn't think the boys would like Zina as much. I bring in the boy's thoughts. Zina was like, she was hot. Yeah. A little space car. Raven Simone. That was Raven Simone was in that. Oh, I love Raven. So I think it was more of a disincental showgirl than it was a movie girl. Like that's a Raven, Lizzie McGuire. What was the one child above was in? Raven, Steven, Steven, I feel like I watched so many of those. Okay, so wait, we've got Halloween town Zina on. Smart house. Smart house before. I was a big on this one. Cheetah girls. Oh, I was not there. Cheetah girls. I should have missed that. I don't know. Five is Brink. Six. Let's bring Hillary Doth back. Lizzie McGuire-Movie. No. What? Um. Uh. Can I Kelly? Oh. Yeah, can I Kelly? Oh, is that the dance? Oh, that must be the dance she's doing. No. Have you, like, with the gun? Wasn't it? Yeah, she did the spinning of the gun. Yeah. What a weird movie. What a weird movie. I just heard on the interview that they made her go to like training to learn those. Well, she didn't do a good job at training. I don't know. Because it wasn't very available. I mean, I didn't end that. I'd be like, I want to join the ROTC. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I feel like they're really body shaming. I mean, it was. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, so could that take Kelly's six? Number seven. We've also talked about Johnny tsunami. Johnny tsunami. Johnny tsunami. Yeah. Eight. Which I feel like I wonder if we look back on this movie. If it's, um, this one was Emmy winning. Emmy winning. I don't know any of them. I don't think that's right. The color of friendship. Oh, I don't know. I don't know that one at all. That was the one. The South African exchange. Yes. Oh my gosh. Yes. But I wonder like how it holds up today. You know? Yeah. I wish remember the Titans was on this list. But it wasn't a Disney original. It was just a movie. It was Disney. It was Disney, wasn't it? It was Disney, yeah. Yeah. Um, number nine. I'll just tell you. Halloween Town 2. Calabar is revenge. I mean, it's great. Halloween Town 2 is great. My kids actually prefer it. Halloween Town 1. I don't remember what happens. What happens? I think his son becomes Calabar. Yeah. His son's the evil one. Yeah. And then 10. Look at that Irish. Oh, such a thing, the basketball, but he was a leprechaun. Yeah. That's a good one. You need to do like a marathon of these movies and rewatch them. I have them. My daughters watch Zena on the other night. We watch Brink the other day. My kids to be the older. You need them. My eldest is four. Your oldest would watch. But yeah, my kids are older. So they're starting to get into it. They like to Zena a lot. I mean, I'm dying for them to be like, "Mom, can we watch Zena?" We've watched Halloween Town so often. We watch Hocus Pocus year round. That's the classic. I really want to go to Salem. Oh, come visit me. Let's do a Salem trip. That'd be self because we are the witches they would burn. I do think that we should all dress up as witches for Halloween for the pod. Oh, yeah, sure. You think they have a podcast studio in Salem? I mean. They don't have much in Salem, actually. I think you come to Salem with them. Okay, come Salem. I love Salem, actually. Guys, it's a very quaint, cute little place on the water. It's beautiful. Anytime I see an Instagram post about witches being like back in the day, I would have like you two have already reposted it. Yeah. Anytime I see something about witches. I'm also genuinely like since I was a little bit obsessed.
was Salem and the Witches, and the Witches tried, I'm just very into it. That was definitely a pass light for you. I think so too. I think so too. I feel connected. That's why you're such an advocate today. It was also weirdly, like, I was scared of it in middle school there, you hear what happened to the Witches? Well, you're close. We're very close. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too close to home. Yeah, yeah. Where's Hocus Pocus-based? Salem. Oh. Yeah, makes sense. That's why we were talking about it. Yeah, I was in Salem, Massachusetts. We're all the best witches are. That's where they film, too. They just film the second one. They were all in Salem and they were filming everywhere. Did you see them? No, I'm not a weird stalker. No, I'm a. You're a cosmically tied. I know. I'm not a cosm. I'm not stalking them, man. I'm telling you. We're cosmically tied. I don't know what it is. You went there accidentally. It's so interesting. He seems like a good person. Yeah, we have to say Asterix seems to be coming out 10 years from now. So, I. When I saw him first time at the pizza restaurant we were at, he was just like watching the NBA Finals eating pizza with his kid. Very chill. Yeah. I like it. You never know. I like when a celebrity is low-key and you, like, almost don't know they're there. Mm-hmm. That's how men should be. Aw, men. It's like they're almost not even there. Quiet. Quiet. Unless that pleaps. Shh. Shh. Shh. Shh. Okay, actually, I want to pivot because I have a question that was actually happening in a different group chat. Sorry. Not with you guys. Oh, sorry. Shout it out to different podcasts on Instagram. I made so many group chats. We've talked about this. I mean, so wrong. We're all in a lot of group chats. It's very overwhelming. What I have to know is do you have an order of operations in the shower? The shower? Yes. Like, I'll give you mine. Okay. And I'll tell you why I'm thinking about this. Right? So, I was talking with my friend and we were talking about this and we were talking about washing hair. And I think we're talking about teaching our kids how to wash their hair. I was like, well, how do you wash your hair? Because the way she was telling me about it was like, that's strange. She gets in the shower. First thing she does is wash her hair. I don't wash my hair first, but she does. But she does shampoo and conditioner at the same time. Whoa. I know. What do you mean at the same time? She will lather the top with shampoo, get it super sudsy, let that sit for a while, lather the bottom with conditioner and then rinse it all out at once. Who taught her that? Yeah. That is what I was wondering. And she's like, sorry for any. She's like, they do two different jobs and I was like, great, but you have to rinse the shampoo out, which is then brinsing out the condition, right? Yeah. That's to waste the money. I mean, in the same money, I'm curious. I feel like it could work a little bit. She's saying, she was showing me how she moved because when I said, she was showing me how she moved her head and that she, she rinses her head. I don't know how she's doing it. Very strange, right? So I'm like, that's weird. I think that's right. I've never heard. I've never heard of it. And then I asked her, I said, when you go to the hair salon, what is this, what does she do? And I was like, she does shampoo then conditioner. Not the same time. What she say. She's like, well, she didn't have a good excuse for it, other than that's how she does it. And it's fine. And I was like, that's not fine. That's weird. But then I was thinking about how we all do have like a, like, I'm, you guys know me. I have a very specific routine with my lotion and my, all the things I do at night, like wearing a lotion, my arms and I put it on. I think there's a correct way to order a operation. Okay. So this is my order, but I'll give you mine first. You can tell me the correct answer. And I'll tell you the correct answer. Mine's very specific. Yes. And if I, if I miss a step, then the whole thing goes to you. When you lotion your elbows. At bedtime. That's bedtime. Yeah. Yeah. I take my iron pill, I put my lip, you know, mask on and then I lotion the whole time. You're, it's really going to be a complete package with this ACL brace. Yeah. And she will lay in bed and think about it. She should have lotion. And I had the compression socks and my carpal tunnel braces and I was like, hey, it's so keen. Um, I get in the shower. I wash my body, false, shave my armpits, false, shampoo my hair twice because I only wash my hair. Yeah. I don't need a double-climbed. Okay. Hold on. I put a bunch of conditioner and I let that sit and shave my legs while my conditioner sits. Then I rinse the conditioner out, I rinse my legs, and then I do an exfoliating scrub and then I'm done. So my only thing though is like, you have to wash your body last because the soap and the conditioner. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like you can wash, you have to wash after the conditioner because the conditioner will run over your body and I rinse, rinse, rinse, rinse the whole body. But I was going to say, yeah, like, is it the worst of the conditioner rinse as well? I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying because the conditioner sits on your body. Yeah. I go really crazy though and then I go with the exfoliator in. Do you take your showers, like, scalding hot? Pretty hot. Yeah. I am a minor, like, pretty hot. I feel like during the line of self-harp. I come out, so you don't, everything, but then you wash last. Yeah. You wash a lot. Do you use shaving cream on your armpits? Yes. I don't. I use whatever I have. I do. I just go wet. Oh, how do you-- No, it doesn't hurt. That's really bad for you, I think. I don't have any razorburn. Mm. What's coming? What? Better watch out. I don't know. But do you remember when we were younger? And it was like, you had to buy shaved gel. Like, the marketing for it was so good. Like, intimate. Skint mitt. Skint mitt. Skint mitt. Skint mitt. It smelled so bad. It had to be the pink one. Yeah. It's like, you wouldn't shave your legs. That's skint mitt. Yeah. They have really targeted us with that. And then something was like, oh, you run out. Just use conditioner. What do you mean? Like-- No, right now. My husband does the dollar shave, club, or whatever. And then we have 1,700 heads of grazers. So I just had him buy a second, right? And I just use it. I just use the man. Because now the razors have like this-- That bar at the top. Not to get too many things. I don't even make it really like gooey. gooey. But I don't really smooth, because that's what's going to say, if you're just dry shaving your pits, if you had one of those, that makes sense. It's just water and razor. And it's fine. I put stuff on my legs. I put a shaving cream on my legs. Women who dry shave, scare me. Oh, yeah. I can't scrap with y'all. That's a scary thing to do. But you do water. I'm talking about I don't have a woman who's dry. I don't have a woman who's dry. Oh, I know people who get. Yeah, they're sociopaths. Yeah, that's why I think you move. OK, so how do you shower? I get in, I shampoo, I conditioner, while I'm conditioning. I actually wash twice, because I'll usually shave while the conditioner is setting. So then-- And then after I do conditioner. I wash your body twice. Well, because I wash by proxy when I'm shaving. Right, I got soap on the legs. Yeah, I got soap on the armpits. OK. And then I get the conditioner off. And then I rewash one more time to get all the-- I have sensory issues with that. I can't be-- I know you're sharing. I know you're sharing. So you might hate this about me. I love a rubbed sunscreen. I love feeling the feeling of sunscreen. Whereas my husband hates the feeling of sunscreen. So I'll only do spray sunscreen. What do you like feeling it? Because you like to know it's there. Or what do you like? I love the feeling, and I love the smell. I love the smell. I don't care. You know what I'm saying? So you're sensory about conditioner, but not sunscreen. Because I feel dirty still. Like I feel-- I have long hair. Like I have long hair. You do, yes. So I feel like the conditioner sometimes goes in your butt. Yeah, literally, Derek, and Gabe cover your ears. It just goes right into the butt. It does. Yeah, I'm like, I can't. That's going to give me permanent swamp ass. I need to rewash that after I can do it. Hey, you can just wash your ass after. You don't have to rewash it. But then I'm there, and I'm like, you know, there's conditioner on the legs again. It's just at the foot. I don't like. I don't want oil slick. I feel like one of those baby ducks that needs to be clean with dawn. Like, you know? Yeah, absolutely. We're just-- The BP oil, so we remember. Yeah, we remember. We remember. Once again, never forget, BP. Tell it to us for recycling and using straws, but BP out here. Again, there's two BPs in my town. I don't go there. I will not forget. I have an electric car. People don't forget. Yeah, what about you? I'm more similar to her. I'm definitely shampoo first, conditioner second. I definitely let it sit for a little. Do you shave your armpits and legs every shower? armpits every shower legs every four days. Yeah. I was just pregnant and postpartum. So we'll just come back into the swing of the shower. Well, because I did the laser hair removal on my armpits. So I like barely-- I need to do that. I want you to really have to shave there. And then, yeah, and then I always do body wash last. Yeah. Do you use a lupha or no lupha? No, my daughter-in-law just Fred said never. I used to use a lupha, and then I started to hear that. It kind of makes sense, because it's just like hanging in a moist shower. So I really think this isn't like a controversial conversation. I think your one friend just needs to get together. Yeah. Well, the reason it came up was because my husband found out that most people who have a bar of soap, like rub their hands on the soap and then use their hands to wash their body. And he grew up just using the soap all over his body. You get it all in his Gucci style. I hate that. I hate that. I, like, if my towel for some reason out there, or only my husband's towel is there, I would walk. I don't cross those out. I'll make it in a frame. I'll make it in a frame before I will use it. His towel is always wet. I do think I'm always-- Oh, it's literally-- Why? I'm like, why doesn't it dry? Whatever. I agree. I think men's towels don't dry. They smell like mold. No, yeah, there's something going on there. Wait, OK, so is the right way to stand in the shower towards the water or the water in the back? That's the back. Depends what stage I'm in. I mean, if I'm washing my face, I'm feeling better. I'm back when my conditioner's setting. I'm facing. I'm dancing. I'm moving around. Same. I'm moving around. For me, I'm going to face it occasionally. Yeah. I don't stand getting pelted in the face with water. That doesn't make any sense. I also have one of those laundry can remove it. And it's still on there. So I'll turn where it's on my back and then also on my front. And then I'm just like, oh, just like warm. I love it. I love shower. She's living out here. Rebirth, yeah. I remember when I went to a hotel in Lisbon for work, and they had the best shower head that, like, months later, I called them and I was like, can I please have the brand of your shower head, because I will be purchasing that. Did you get it? No, it was like a brand from Portugal and they weren't going to ship to the US. Yeah, good shower head, like anything. This one was magic, like, this was a magical shower head. I wanted it so bad. I know I could get a different one, but I really wanted that one and wanted that shower head. OK. Yeah, I'm not picky about a shower. I just-- I love a warm shower. Like, there's nothing worse than in the wintertime getting out of the shower when it's freezing in your bathroom.
- And I'm gonna tell them what, man. - Oh yeah, I don't have one of those. I'll bring my space heater in the bathroom. I'm like, I just like, fire hazard. (laughing) - That's just burning back in the shower. - That's a room. - Lorda, but I guess that's all relative. - Yeah, like in the, she's like, what the, what the, what the, - What the, it's a brushy thing. - I actually do, like, truly because the heat won't come on in the house during certain times of the year. - I know you said it, right? - Where I will have the space heater like under my feet. - You said that so bad. - You set the heat in your house. Like you can let it turn on whenever you want. - To turn it on. - I know, but like, we don't need to heat the house. - So you're walking 60 degrees outside. - Can I tell you, you're probably using the same amount of electricity with your space heater that you would be using. - It is true, yeah. - Yes. - So our power goes out all the time. Not anymore. We got a generator, you're fine. - How do I? - But our power went out like a few weeks ago and my husband plugged in the space heater and it was just ripping power out that generator. - Because it's not as efficient. - Yeah. - It's not as efficient. You should just, it's also just a fire hazard. You should stop doing that. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, I just have one of my office under my desk. - It's where I-- - It's where my home office. - Oh. - My office building. - What's that one bird down? - Because office buildings are the office building. - The office building. - Well, because office buildings are run by men and men run hot and they keep it too cold and us women have to freeze. And do we have to have blankets and space heaters? - I understand. - Well, so I had one there. I didn't bring it home with me. - Okay, I have one. - You need to heat your house appropriately. What's your perfect temperature? - At nighttime or daytime, those are different answers. - Give them to me. - 68. - You say we're different answers. Which one? - 68 at night. - What about day? - Day time, I can fuck with a 72. - Mm. - I'm a 73. - During the day? - Year round. - Year round or day round? - I'm a 73. - That's hot. - I like it. - I ran cold. - I do too. - Matt, that's why you run your blankets. - Well, no shit, 73 when you're sleeping. - You're just generally, it's like his whole family. His mom comes to the house and she just starts opening all the window. She's like, "Why is it hot in here?" - It's hot. - It's hot. - To the first time my husband was gonna meet my mom. My mom was like, "Do you want to go on a hike?" And I was like, "No, no. Let's not do that with my husband 'cause he's in get all, like sweaty, fluffy. - It's gonna be a really bad experience for him. - Well, he passed down the sweatiness to my daughters. - I have sweaty kids. - They're sweaty kids. - Yeah. - You guys are really sweaty. - We call it sweaty boy summer. - Oh. - Yeah, the whole family except me, sweating. - Did you guys get, like, when we would wear, like, Hollister and Abercrombie and those really tight kids. - My mom wasn't buying it from me. - Or was that just me? - Oh, no, I know what you're talking about. It was always the really tight grade. - Yeah. - It was like the light material. - Everybody had pit stints. - Oh my goodness. - So embarrassed. - I mean, I didn't wear that on the glistener. - I'm a glistener too. I'm not really a big sweater. I'm a glistener, even when I play sports, but I turn bright red. But you know what I think? I mean, I think that means we're out of shape. - Okay. - What do you mean? - Yeah, like, I think if you don't sweat and you glisten, I think you're out of shape. Because, like, before our wedding, I got a personal trainer and I was like, actually, you had muscle for the first time in my life. And then I started sweating a lot. - But do you think you were just, like, working out? So you were sweating? - I mean, I sweat a lot and I hop a lot is class, obviously. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, I can sweat. - But I'm saying, like, the natural inclination to, like, sweat easily, I think is, like, a good thing. - But what is, you're talking about metabolism here. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. But I need to know, like, why I, and some people, like, I turn, like, red, red, red, patchy red. - So do I. And I remember playing basketball for ever. - It doesn't go away forever. - And they would, like, take me on me. Like, are you okay? It's so red. - Yeah. - I mean, there was, like, a TikTok that a girl just put up. - I just, like, yeah. - Yeah. - She was at their full length. - And her friend was, like, gorgeous. - It worked, like, she didn't even work out. And then she was just so red. And I was like, that's me. I'm the red friend. - That's me too. I'm like, people, like, let's get a coffee. And I'm like, I can't. - Yeah. - I'm getting coffee. I'm getting right red. - Yeah. (upbeat music) - I don't know. About the sweating thing. I don't sweat very often. I do turn red. It is a blessing because, like, when we're, like, a hawk, I'm gonna be on the grass at Fenway for the Noah Con concert. - Yeah. - I won't be sweaty. - Ooh. - You're gonna be an overalls though. - I told you. I don't know that I'll be an overalls. But I won't be sweaty. But it cost me so much money to go to this. - I would've paid more, actually, though. - For you and me. - Where you sell tickets I'm looking at. - For Noah. - Yeah, and, like, the cheapest cheapest tickets, like, five or six hundred dollars. - I mean, I spent five. I spent, oh, maybe just a little under five. I would spend more. Like, I was ready to spend a thousand dollars. - Wait, you're on the floor. - I love Noah. - Yeah. - I've seen him live once. I don't go to a lot of, I basically never go to concerts. But I really, really love him. So I would spend at that. It's like Taylor. Like, you spend a lot of money to go and see Taylor's works. But also, the cost of concerts in general have, like, it's, it's, it's crazy. - It's crazy. - Yeah, it's the ticket master of it all, where it's like the demand and dynamic price. - Dynamic price. - But, good artists, Noah won't let you do. Like, if you resell a Noah ticket, they cannot increase the price. It's the same price. - So that's the original price of the person bought it for. - How can they do that on StubHub? - They, they elect for it. So the artists will elect whether or not, and Harry Stiles, elected for dynamic pricing, meaning his pricing is all over the place where Noah's was a big business. - But how can they affect, like, how can they tell StubHub what to set the price as? - I don't think that's the whole thing. - Because Taylor Swift, like, the demand for the airs toward tickets were insane. - But I didn't say it. - But there was also so many lawsuits after that. - Yeah. - Well, she was mad about it. Everybody, there was lawsuits. But, so apparently artists can choose whether or not they turn, like, top of that honor. I think a lot of the proceeds go to two. - Well, I know dynamic pricing is on or off. - And resale. - No, yeah. - That's crazy. - That's what I heard. - There was no way. Because all the tickets I'm seeing are very different price even when they're right next to each other. And it's like, the last, last row is like-- - But you're on StubHub. I'm talking ticket masters where they were sold. - Yeah. - So one of it depends on the platform. - Yeah. - I'm like, the resale. - Because they're really expensive. And I'm like, there's no way. - But there's no way. - StubHub, the one where you, like, don't have to, like, bear, I don't know how it works. - That's a fun way. - That's a huge deal. - The first two shows, he had two shows Friday and Saturday. So you couldn't get in, sold out. So then he had out of a Thursday show, sold out, out of the Wednesday show. So I'm going Wednesday. - I mean, it's his hometown. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's a big deal. - I'm very excited. - Yeah. - We have a friend who's flying in. I mean, I would do that. I was going to go to the Aristotle and LA. - I went in September. - And we grow, we grow mathed it because we had, okay, this is my grow math. Tell me if it, if it clocks. We had points for the flights. - Okay. - We had flights in my mind. I'm a monopoly money free. - They basically are. - Right. My friend was going out of town. Him and his fiance were going out of town. We stayed at his apartment. Didn't pay for a place to stay. - Yeah. - He let us use his car. We didn't have to rent a car. So in my mind, we're like, we have unlimited merch credit. Like, we haven't spent a dollar. Guess how much our tickets were to theirs. - Were they resale? - Yes. - Where'd you sit? - Literally five rows from the top. I don't even want to sail out. It's like that. - 2000. - Yes. - Wow. - When you're traveling to a place, think about flights, place to stay, car rental. - You wanted to justify it. - No, but I'm girl mapping. - I also think the Ares Tour was a once-in-a-lifetime event. - That's what it was. - And I'm really sad I missed it. I could have gone for 500 and I passed the ticket out. Because it was my daughter's first birthday. - You're also like a huge swifty. - I mean, I would have gone to that. - Yeah. - It was what up. - A total moment. - It was hard to get tickets. And I think they should have been reserved for it. - But now everything is expensive. Like, baseline? 500 bucks. - Yeah. - Well, and then the fees. And then they'll get you with the fees and all this stuff. - Yeah. - Because the ticket itself wasn't $2,000. But then it's like, okay, we didn't pay for a place to stay. All these things. It's like, let's pay for the ticket. And me and my girlfriend made it a girls trip. And we went to Denver. And it was amazing. - But back in the day, we were going to those. I was going to country fest for $12. - It was a ticket. - Yeah, it was so different. - And now it's like, if I want to go to a concert, I have to like genuinely want to be there. - Yeah. - Like really badly. Otherwise, I'm not going. - I agree. - And I heard it's a terrible concert. - I know. I don't know what to do. - Resel. - They're not selling. - Because it's a terrible concert. - Yeah, nobody's buying them. - You can't go. - Yeah. - So no tickets. - So no tickets. - I will give you a din tickets, actually, as well. - Oh, that's fine. - I will give you a din. - I love her. - She's very fun on stage. - Is that such good energy? - Yeah, her energy. - Yeah, the clips of her. She's got such good energy. - Yeah. - She's gorgeous. - I don't know. All for some. I need to know all of somebody. - She's got a lot of songs. Any time she comes out, my daughter's like, her name's Olivia. I'm like, yeah, she does. What a common name. - It is a common name. - My number, daughter. She's judgmental. - She's five. - She's five. - She has so many friends named Olivia. And she's like, what a common name. - I have my name. I'm one of my kids Olivia. But I was like, it is like. - What's the number one girl name in the country, always. - It's such a beautiful name. - It is a beautiful name. - It's objectively a pretty name. - Yeah. - And Amy is all that. Lots of that. - I hear a lot up to. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Anyways, I'll be Olivia Dean's concert for a cool 500. - I'm like, I get it. Dave Matthews is not going for 2,000 a pop. - No, he's still a Fortball. - Yeah, I need to go. - He's quite small venues. - Yeah, yeah. So I'm in a really small venue with Tim Reynolds and Jacks. - I mean, I think his population is one. - Yeah, but I wanted it. - Yeah. - I know, I was sad. I just saw that he was in DC this weekend. I don't even know. - Yeah. - Jack Johnson's also coming at the end of the month. - I saw Jack. - Jack's birthday, though. - Oh. - Psycho guilty about that. - Well. - Okay, next time. - Is that Hillary Doff coming? - All right. - You're going to get a concert on my docker. - Yeah, next time. - Before I'm coming to Harry Styles at MSG. - Okay. - So at least I'm like, hoping that'll be fun. - That'll be fun. - That'll be fun. - That'll be great. - That'll be fun. - You'll have a lot of fun. - Well, we got a lot more to say, but we got to go. - Bye. - All for our concert. - Bye. - Thank you so much for listening to The Justice Girls podcast. - It's so grateful that you chose to spend time with us today. - If you love this episode, be sure to follow. - Like, subscribe. - Wherever you listen to podcasts. - And don't forget to rate and review as well. - We would appreciate it so, so much. - Coming out with us on Instagram. - At the Just Us Girls pod. - And you can also find us on Substac. - At the Just Us Girls pod.substac.com. - Where we share even more from each episode. - A little behind the scenes. - And all the good stuff you don't want to miss. - We can't wait to chat with you next week. - Bye.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The group discusses Botox and aging, with members expressing personal comfort in embracing natural appearance and rejecting societal pressures to look young.
They critique the performative nature of modern celebrity, citing examples like Millie Bobby Brown’s consistent facial expressions and the misleading marketing of health products, such as a fraudulent blood-testing startup.
The conversation touches on gendered expectations in workplaces and public spaces, highlighting how women face judgment for appearance while men are often praised for similar behaviors, and reflects on the discomfort of shared experiences like bathroom use and public exposure.
Summary:
The conversation centers on personal identity, societal pressures, and gender dynamics. The group reflects on their individual choices about Botox, emphasizing that rejecting anti-aging norms is a form of self-empowerment and resistance to industry-driven beauty standards. They critique how modern celebrity culture prioritizes performative emotions and deceptive health claims, citing the fraudulent blood-testing startup where a founder exploited vulnerable individuals.
The discussion expands to gendered experiences in professional and public spaces, where women face greater scrutiny over appearance and behavior compared to men, who are often seen as neutral or acceptable. The group also shares personal anecdotes about bathroom experiences, including awkward moments at concerts and public restrooms, highlighting cultural discomfort and lack of privacy. These stories underscore broader themes of bodily autonomy, social expectations, and the disconnect between traditional and modern cultural narratives.
The conversation also touches on nostalgia, particularly through references to Disney Channel classics like *Lizzie McGuire* and *Halloween Town*, reflecting on how childhood media created shared cultural experiences now fading. Finally, members share personal routines, like showering and self-care, emphasizing sensory preferences and the importance of individual comfort, all while acknowledging the growing cost and complexity of accessing live events and personal wellness. The tone remains lighthearted, blending humor with thoughtful reflections on identity, consumerism, and evolving social norms.
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The girls discuss Botox as a personal choice, with some saying they don’t use it and feel no shame in that. They note societal pressure to look younger and criticize how anti-aging marketing ties into diet culture, emphasizing that women should have autonomy over their bodies and choices.
They observe that celebrities today are more accessible, often responding directly to public comments and sharing personal stories, unlike in the past when they relied on PR statements. This shift reflects a more transparent and influencer-like approach to fame.
The girls recall favorites like 'Halloween Town,' 'Zena,' 'Smart House,' and 'Brink,' with some noting the nostalgia and cultural impact of these shows in shaping their childhood experiences.
The girls share varied routines, with some shampooing first, letting conditioner sit, and rinsing before body washing, while others emphasize exfoliation or washing the body last. They also discuss using conditioners on legs during shaving and sensory preferences.
They highlight that women are often judged more harshly on appearance than men, noting that men can wear the same outfit daily and still be promoted, while women face dismissal if they don’t conform to certain standards.
They reference a facial expression seen in Millie Bobby Brown’s performance in 'Stranger Things,' describing it as repetitive and emotionless, and humorously call it the 'Moggy' face, indicating a shared observation on how actors may seem emotionally detached.
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