Just Trish Live from BurningMan Sep 03, 2026

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Learn more on the Uber app. - Get your heart broken, or you can break someone's, you can have a breakup, and then find the next love of your life. - I was gonna say, I don't think she was heartbroken. I think she broke someone's heart. That's how you move on quickly. If someone moves on fast, let me tell you that's the one that's always the heartbroken. ♪ Her name is Trish ♪ ♪ She's got the fish and all the gossips ♪ ♪ Filthy rich pretty in pink ♪ ♪ Hot topic queen ♪ ♪ And says what everybody thinks ♪ ♪ She's just Trish ♪ - Yay! - Hello, and welcome to the Just Trish podcast, where everything is normal here. Everything is fine. We're all just here on a casual Wednesday, being casual. I have a wig. Oscar has a hat. My husband is-- - Well, it's too windy, but I hope you can hear me. Shh, shh, shh, shh. - Reporting from the field. I just ran into Bethany. She's okay. Everyone, she's survived it so far. And yeah, we're doing good at Burning Man. - I love that your Burning Man connection is Bethany Frankel this year. - We just, you know, it's a soul connection. - Is she-- Oh. Soul connection's crazy. Is she reporting live? Is that how you're keeping up? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She keeps reporting live. She just gave a whole thesis of what she thinks Burning Man is after being there for the first time-- - And what's the thesis? - For a few days. She was pretty good. She was pretty good. She's like, "It's a big city." And it's like trying to describe New York for the first time or trying to experience New York for the first time. You can't really experience all of it in a week. And then when you come back the next year, it's not the same New York anyways. So it was interesting. I think she got the idea of what it is. - Are you having FOMO? - Always. I mean, every year it's kind of like, you know, you want to be out there, but at the same time I've had really good years of Burning Man where it was like very, very good. And now it's always changing and people say it's always worse, but it's just always changing. And it looks good. I saw a lot of videos and it's good. I mean, it's really cool. The beauty of it is like you go on your bike and you drive out to an open desert and there's sculptures, artwork, music, people. And it's great. As an artist, it's amazing. - You look like Jesus. - There were a lot of people tripping on the playa that would see me in my white clothing. - You're Jesus right now. - And they were like, although there was a camp that just got kicked out of there. That was like preaching. - Oh, you never preached. You just. - I didn't do anything. I was just riding my bike, fly kite. - You just existed and people talked to you as if you were Jesus. - I was just one of the installations. - That's kind of crazy. That was a name we considered for FOMO was Jesus. I like the name because like Moses and Jesus, that's like such a good name. I had a friend, Jesus. It would have been cute. I love that name. It would have been so cute. I have a friend who was, she has babies named Benicio and Jesus. And I love both of those names so much. And he almost was Jesus, but there's not a movie called Jesus. There's like Jesus Christ superstar, but you can't name a baby that. - I guess middle name superstar. - That's a good one actually. Yeah, I was down for the biblical names. Moses wasn't one. I'm so sorry you're not there. If you want to go, you can go. We always, my mom come over and help with the kids. - I mean, one day we'll pack the kids in an RV and go. - Maybe I was not going to be at a hotel. - Oh my God, Burning Man girl. - We'll be in Reno in the hotel. - Yeah. - Getting spa treatments. - Yeah, that sounds much better. Well. - But yeah, so far no big disasters. People are doing well over there. And it is amazing to see what people are building. There's like, there's like food vloggers now over there. 'Cause there's so many food experiences and people. - They could have met you. Moses was the cooker of bacon when he went to Burning Man. You baked it or is that the first time you had it? - It's the first. So I was vegetarian for 15 years. And the first time I ate meat was bacon at Burning Man. - Damn, they're really tempting you out there in the desert. - Exactly. - It's like, we're trying to eat that bacon. And you haven't, and you honestly, your bacon still eats, it's so good. Now you cook bacon wonderfully. We don't really eat it that much. - I don't, no. - You just make it for us? - Yeah. - We love bacon in this house. - I love it. Okay, well, thanks for the Burning Man update. - Yeah, so anyway, hopefully I'll be back in the studio in a few minutes. - Oh, poor Jimmy. He's like, am I supposed to edit something extra? - It's just the wind. - Yeah, that's right. I get some. - What do you think? He's like a movie. He's like, what is this happening? What the hell is editing? Okay, well. - Oh yeah, beam me up, Jimmy. - Oh my God. Okay. Well, thanks guys for being here to the Just Rich Podcast. Lots of updates over here, you guys. I'm coming to Australia. Okay. I'm coming to Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth. I'm not coming to Adelaide, but damn Adelaide. Everyone's like, you will sell out if you come to Adelaide. I'm like, where the hell is Adelaide? I know so many cities in Australia. Never heard of Adelaide. I was like, and everyone's like, come to Adelaide. I'm like, am I being trolled? Am I being scammed? No plans to come to Adelaide, but come to one of those cities. I think it's close. Australia seems small. Come to Australia. - I think Australia is pretty big. - Is it? My tour manager's like, oh, you could just kind of like bounce around to all, I don't know. Okay, well, I don't know you guys. Come, is it? Can you, no. It's like California. - From Adelaide to Perth, it's a 28 hour drive. - Oh. - I mean, there were people sending messages. They're like, I'm driving across the country to come see you. So it must be big. - So they're making the effort. So, you know, just try. I'm so sorry, Adelaide. Maybe the next tour. I don't know when the next time, what's happening. - Adelaide's on, I think in, - Like New York and LA. Is it like that? - Yeah, Adelaide is pretty far, it looks like. - Okay, that's probably why everyone's like, come to Adelaide. 'Cause they're like, we're in the middle of nowhere. They're like the Yukon. They're like the peninsula up there by Alaska. That's like, wait, what about us too? Are they an island? I know, Australia's an island. Are they their own island? - No. - No? All right. - No, no. - I'm so sorry, Adelaide, you did not make the cut. People are excited to come to Perth. Like, no one comes to Perth, so I'm coming to Perth. I'm excited for all the Sydney Opera House. I'm ready to come too. I'm ready to see those koalas, the kangaroos, Robert Irwin, Vegemite. Ooh, Tim Tams. I'm excited. A lot of my old dancers are over in Australia. And I asked one of my old dancers, one of my ex-dancers who came on Heartbreak Tour with me 'cause he moved back to Australia during COVID. I was like, do you wanna dance with me on Heirs of Trish? 'Cause I'm trying to get like Australian dancers, Cedric will come with me. And he said, no. - Oh. - He said, I've retired. I was like, well, you're still a trainer. Like, you look fit, come back. So anyways, we'll probably be getting some dancers over. My tour manager, Ward, is Australian, so I'm very excited to go over with him, give a little tour. I'm not excited, I've never been to Australia. Never had a reason to, but now I have a reason, and I'm excited. It's gonna be the Heirs of Trish show. It's kinda, oh my gosh, what's happening? - He just fell from Burning Man. - Oh, here's the book. Well, Australian pre-orders are available for Crying on the Kitchen Floor. I'll put that link below. Yes, you can get our show. Oh my God, baby. Moses never, he's never-- - The Burning Man wins. - Sorry, I just came into the studio. - Oh my gosh, are you okay over there? Okay, Crying on the Kitchen Floor pre-order. - It's not easy to get back into society. - Okay. Anyways, we're excited to be there. The tickets go on sale, so sorry. Okay, I missed the pre-sale. I was supposed to announce that. I did it on my Instagram. Like, you didn't announce the pre-sale podcast. So sorry, but a lot of you guys already got tickets. Pre-sale's over. The general tickets will go on sale now, Friday, September 4th at 1:00 p.m. local time in Australia. It was very confusing, 'cause when I put 2:00 p.m. yesterday, everyone's like, okay, so that's at 4:00 in the morning. For us, it's Friday, September 4th at 1:00 p.m. Tickets will be on sale, and people are already excited. People are already DMing my agency. Agent's DMing Moses, DMing the venues. They're like, wait, meet and greets sold out. The meet and greets are smaller there. I don't know why. First of all, they weren't gonna do meet and greets. I was like, I wanna do meet and greets if I'm going over there. And then it became really a small meet and greet. So I think some of the meet and greets already sold out. But you know, if you see me in Australia, I'll be at all the sites. I'll just be like, hey, guys. I'm so excited. I feel like Mary-Kate and Ashley did a movie in Australia, right? - They sure did, yeah. - Did they? What was it called? "Sun?" - I think it was on that one. I think it was something "Down Under." - "Down Under." I do love "Down Under." Ooh, I wanna go see "Down Under" from "Down Under." Maybe they'll open for me. - Oh no, it's just our lips are sealed. - Oh, that was the Australian one? I gotta watch it. - Yeah. - I don't really watch Mary-Kate and Ashley movies, but maybe I'll watch it to prepare. Moses came to me this morning. He said, just so you know, what did you say exactly? Just don't wear the Australian flag like you did the British flag on your shirt. You said it's like against the rule. He's like, don't wear it. I was like, first of all, why would I wear an Australian dress? 'Cause you wore the Union Jack. I'm like, that's a Spice Girl outfit. No one wears the Australian flag on their dress, but he was concerned for me because somebody was concerned to you. They're like, don't let Trisha do it 'cause it's offensive to wear it on a piece of clothing. I'm not, guys, don't worry. I just had a little koala holding it. Okay, so they thought I might wear a Union Jack outfit from my British show over and off. australia maybe maybe maybe i thought you're doing the whole spice girl thing okay okay valid i suppose they're like i mean that was called the british invasion that's not the heirs of trish but okay well but definitely don't use that name in australia i come over hello australia where's the queen the british invasion yeah no okay got it so sorry noted oh my gosh so what's the australian i guess is it is it there's a trish what trishmas in march i guess maybe their winter is our summer maybe it's backwards over there maybe i could do that no that's what i was saying the air is a trish show you'll be wearing khaki khaki shirt and short combo a little hat a little yes yeah that was my australian impression yesterday they thought it was a little robert irwin i do love like crikey down there down under coming to you soon australia nar see you soon like yeah um i would love that i would love to go see robert irwin i do think of australia and i do think of steve irwin and the irwins and that's all i care about and the people of course i'm excited i'm so excited for australia i don't know what's what's over there but i'm excited and one of the venues is probably the biggest one you yeah the tiktok center in sydney is uh can hold up to 9 000 people i think if i don't sell it out they can maybe make it look a little smaller but uh but i think it's 9 000 people yeah i saw my one of my touring agents be like you're playing in an arena and i was like what are you doing i'm not playing in an arena i'm not playing in an arena i'm not playing i love that and so maybe it'll sell out i don't know actually sydney is did you see the numbers they sent us the numbers from the pre-sale and it's already 40 sold so i love going to different countries they just they get excited for me i think everyone here i'm going to florida this year that's the only people excited for me here and we're like where's your la show i'm like i don't think la cares about me anymore which is fine so now we're going to florida and then we're the circle. Somewhere it's east if you'll eventually hit it. So we'll go even more east to Australia and I'm really looking forward to it. I'm ready to do an Asian tour too but we like Australia right now. And yeah. It's gonna be really fun. Oh I keep saying. Airs at Trish show but it's gonna be added on a little bit too. So you'll get all of it. So it's gonna be like a two hour show. You'll get all the airs at Trish here plus the new songs. I'll do my two new K-pop songs. I have a really fun new cover coming out that's gonna be so epic. And other new songs. So get your tickets today. I'm very excited. Just went to three Taco Bells trying to find well they didn't give me the stickers. I was trying to find the Choco Tacos. So I went to the Liv Moss Cafe. Okay here's a TLDR. So I love saying that. I said it's a tan on that Liv. I was like I love that. TLDR. And I feel. I love the trickle effect. I love it. And I use it all the time now and I just feel like you and I feel like I stole it from you. But that's how friendships work with me. I just steal your verbiage. So yesterday me and Oscar did a Patreon where we were trying new menu items and we got. It was so good I actually went back and got it because they didn't have the Choco Tacos. So we had the Olivia Rodrigo drinks but it didn't deliver and actually that one's really far. The Arby's Simi Valley is really close. It takes me like 20 minutes. The Liv Moss Cafe was like 35 minutes today. So it was like an extra. Yeah so my mom she loves to run and get a cool drink for us. She gets a cooler. She puts all the cool drinks. So she's like I'll go get the Olivia Rodrigo drinks. And then like literally last minute I was just like oh my god the Choco Tacos are on sale today. And I was like oh perfect. So my mom was there. They're at like 10.30 a.m. yesterday. The Choco Tacos don't come until like 11 a.m. Not even 24 hours later. So that was Tuesday at 10.30 a.m. I went at Wednesday at 10 a.m. I was like hey can I get a Choco Taco? Choco Tacos are sold out. Sold out? Sold out. Sold out. I can't believe it. I know. No but the guy was really nice and he's like let me just go double check for you. He like went back to look. He's like no they are sold out. We have the Choco Taco drink. So I got the drink but it did not taste like a Choco Taco. And I was like oh man okay. So then I went to. I was coming on the way home. There was like three Taco Bells on the way home. So I'm stopping at every Taco Bell on the way home. I was like do you have a Choco Taco? Finally I get to the one here near us on Los Arblos de Avenidos. Right? Okay. I think that's the word. I don't know. They were like they love me. They love me there. We took pictures. It was so fun. But they also were like we just sold out last night. And I was like what? So they're like go to the one on Rancho. That one was really farm. It wasn't on Postmates or Garage. Maybe after this I'll look at the one on Rancho. But I went to three. Oh I went to one before that. Also another one on the way back from Simi Valley and they didn't have it. So I can't mind this Choco Taco. It's only been 24 hours since this balance was already sold out. And it's like Taco Bell let's stock more of those Choco Tacos. Because that's what I don't understand. When they get a new menu item and it's like McDonald's too. It's like they had those Godzilla meals for one damn day and then like they're sold out. It's like well keep them in stock. Plentify them. Yeah. The Minecraft Blossom Cookies were sold out yesterday. The little pig. And that was after 24 hours. And it's like we'll make more cookies. I think it's that the scarcity marketing that is just taking over all aspects of consumerism. And it's kind of sick. It's sick and it's working because I'm like I need to find this Choco Taco. It feels like a club that I can't be a part of. And I left my TikTok on a cliffhanger and I was just like I can't find this Choco Taco. And they gave me the stickers and I was like well I guess that's suffice. But I really wanted to try it. I was so excited to bring it back. I was like we're all going to try these Choco Tacos and they are just not there. Everyone is very excited about this Choco Taco though. It sounds to be very good. It's a salt and straw collaboration too. I don't know if that adds to the scarcity of it all but. It is kind of a boogey salt and straw. So wait is it what is it? The thing itself. A Choco Taco? Is it savory or sweet? It's sweet. You had a Choco Taco. Choco Taco is also a brand on its own. Like Choco Tacos are like in the freezer at 7-Eleven. Oh. That is creamy. No. I always get like It's It or something like that. Like there's a cookie with ice cream in the middle. Oh like an ice cream sandwich. Yeah. I swear I've had a Choco Taco with you. Okay. I'll explain to you what a Choco Taco is. It's a Choco Taco. It's a taco with ice cream chocolate syrup in the middle. Yes. And then it has almost like a frozen chocolate like what is that like a crunch around it like a crunch bar. Yeah. It's like chocolate syrup that's like frozen. And it's like a the taco shell is like a cone like a sugar cone. Ah there it is. Great. And this one is special because the ice cream is salt and straw's churro flavor ice cream. And I love churro everything. Me too. I love a churro. I'm so depressed about this. I'm so sad because I love a Choco Taco. That's right. That's what's special about it. It's the salt and straw because I do love a Choco Taco. You can get them at 7-Eleven. Do they still make those? They're so good. Like in the silver wrapper. Yeah. Loved those. I used to eat them all the time. But yeah this is kind of like a gourmet thick Choco Taco. And it looks so good. So they said the one on Rancho has it. I thought it was the one that has AI as well. So I don't know if I'm going to like be going there. That's the one that takes your AI order. But if they give me a Choco Taco I will do it. But damn I really left. Before I even knew we were starting late. I left at like 9-15. And I just got back at like 11-15. That is a whole pilgrimage. That was a pilgrimage. I didn't even film it for anything. I guess I got TikTok. I should have filmed it. That should have been the Patreon for this week. Remind me of your old fashioned TikTok where you were just driving around town looking for that McDonald's sheet cake. And I know it was kind of fun but I actually sent you something today. Did you see it? You sent me something? Where? I think it's Baskin Robbins. Oh yeah the Biscoff cake. They had a Biscoff cookie this weekend. The crumble cookie and it was really good. I do like a Biscoff. I do. Baskin Robbins. Love you. Love Baskin Robbins. When I did that little speaking engagement Baskin Robbins there was Arby's, Baskin, Buffalo Wild Wings, and Dunkin. Legends. Legends. And Jimmy John's. So sorry Jimmy John's. I forgot. I loved them. God I'm really going to try a sandwich. I'm really going to try a sandwich. Because they were so nice. And like we want to work with you. I was like I'm going to try a sandwich. Maybe I'll really like it. I don't know. I was like maybe make a grilled cheese sandwich or something and then I'll go there. You know what I mean? But they're all great. I don't know if they're all one by the sea but I don't know what happened. But they were it was very nice and we love you. Baskin Robbins. Okay. Love you Taco Bell too. But anyways they don't pay people huh? They never do partnerships with people. I never see a paid partnership. I'm sure Miss Remy Ashton has had several in her career. Probably. If anyone's gotten it, it's Miss Remy Ashton. That's true. I kind of worry though. I haven't seen her do a Domino's in a while. Like those Domino's Domino's pizzas have been out. I haven't seen her do it. Yeah. Although very specific. She this is very local. So apologies to our you know our audience. Especially our Australian and Korean audience as well. Sorry Rachel Kwan and Jay Hart. But there is a local our local mall is having a Cheese It pop up or like a Cheese It cafe pop up and for some reason Miss Remy Ashton got us paid partnership. We were already talking about ooh we should go to this Cheese It pop up when it's in the food court. And then the next day Miss Remy Ashton has a sponsored post for it which is kind of crazy. Queen though. Queen stuff. Like she is always. I remember she was getting those Domino's. My theory is she probably had like a year long contract of posting once a week for Domino's and that was like the cool. Every week was a Domino's paid partnership and I was never more envious. But you know honestly it worked because I was happy for her and then I manifested my own Domino's partnership. So you know you gotta be happy. So we're happy for you for your Cheese It sponsorship. We also love Cheese It and Topanga Mall really. I mean Oscar born and raised at the Topanga Mall. Born and raised. Yeah. Like who else better to be the face of. You and Tar Yumi really. For real. You guys are the ambassadors at the Topanga Mall. Tana was at Topanga Mall. And went into Tar Yumi. How do you know? I saw it on her TikTok. That is so funny and I was like it really is. It's like if you came. Yeah it's like if you go to Bang & Buns and you see me there it's just like oh wow like Trisha's just always here. Mind you I have not seen any of these queens at the mall and I'm there at least three times a week. I'm there three times a week. You're there. And not run into like anybody. Now people are going to go look for you there. Good. I hope so. Like I want to feel cool at the mall. Like those are my stomping grounds. Yeah. I do love at Topanga Mall too. I do. It's really fancy. It's really nice. The food court's great. Is the Cheese It thing happening? now i think so because it said september so it might be this week or next she's miss from yashin is a queen of everything queen of sponsorships really we did try the dominoes not sponsor we did try the dominoes domino personal pan pizza yesterday and that was really good did you guys eat any more of it oh yeah i sure did did darian like it leftovers yep yep that's how you know it's it's for real that was really good those look like they can warm up good yeah yeah just put an oven do you know why some of them have the sauce on the cheese and some oh my god no that was like tripping me out like mine had like the traditional cheese pan pizza and not only yours but the kids that my kids upstairs too had like this like a line of sauce in the middle why was that i don't know oh that's what i'm saying they must have found out i was like what was the reason it's a type of pizza but i thought maybe it was giving prince street because they do like the okay so three of the four pizzas came with the sauce line like it was just like it was almost like the cheese was at the bottom and the sauce on the top what is that accurate chicago style pizza or something yeah but mine was like a normal cheese like you would get like a slice at the mall or something it was very what was yours did yours have sauce or was yours a normal cheese mine was mushroom so it was sauce cheese mushroom but i just know it's a style of pizza where the sauce is on top because then the sauce gets kind of roasted more you like the sauce on top or you like it in the middle um i like it normal in the middle because i like the cheese to be i think i did too that's why i was offering you mine because i actually i didn't know the difference at the time i was just but then i saw the difference do you want this one because i probably would have been like i want that one but it wasn't bad you like the sauce no i loved it yeah okay i thought you knew let us know the answer why it was delish we gave a 10 out of 10 we had actually no notes yeah i loved it and we're harsh critics the other food got like a two out of ten we tried all the new menu items we really wanted to live i was so excited that's why we did a whole like patreon being like let's try it was like a gap session too we like gabbed in between but like well like let's try all these new ones and i was so excited about it and then a lot of disappointment but a lot of winners so go to our patreon patreon.com slash just trish if you guys want to see that another disappointment is you are officially not on dancing with the stars season 35 i know i saw a tick tock that's like what did the check say trisha denied because they couldn't come to contractual yeah i saw scheduling conflicts i saw contractual differences like i saw a lot of things not one person dina katz was not in my dms caa was not like you're on a short list there was zero there was nothing there was zero talk and uh more importantly connor levitt who i thought was a personal friend a confidant a trusted confidant yeah played in my face because he literally when he was here before the cameras even rolled you asked off the record like so like have you heard anything about dancing with the stars and he was like no i haven't heard anything have you heard anything yeah but i knew i knew i knew when he was here you could just tell you know when like i don't know it was like no i haven't and then like she was really selling it though to where like i was like okay maybe but he is a good actor because even with the magic yeah he was like really making me fall for the for the scheme and the ploy yes he was he was i knew for sure i was like damn i'm not mad at it i'm not mad at any of the cast honestly like i mean it is crazy they played in my face remember that i was on stage remember when this happened on dancing with the stars live we were there and they're like you're and ezra's like i want to bring you on stage and i didn't know what it was for i thought it was like okay like a bunch of audience comes on stage or whatever then when i realized i was the only one going up on stage when they came to get me and i was like oh my gosh and the way there's like a segment in the show that's like top secret don't tell anyone like so they're like all in like trench coats and hats like private information top secret big reveal and then all of a sudden they pull they're like okay your turn you're coming up on stage i was like am i being announced as a cast member because i'm the only one that's going on stage as we didn't tell me anything that was happening i didn't know i was supposed to be dancing on stage i didn't know anything so i was like oh my gosh this is like i truly felt it in my bones i make it's happening i was dressed as if i was about to announce dancing with the stars i had the asymmetrical feathers and sequins and i was like wow this is happening because like why else would he be like come to the show and i'm going to bring you on stage and all of a sudden there's this top secret thing and they made it this whole thing and the entire um what are they called what are they called the dancers the ensemble no what is it called the what is it called when you're the dance the troupe the dance troupe i guess i don't know anyways all the all the what are they called there's like the celebrity and the the wait the professionals i guess professionals is there another name for them coaches the pros the pros yeah the pros okay so all the pros are on stage emma slater they're all like taking me back and forth it's like oh my god it's an announcement and then later i just did like a dance and then they like gave me like they gave me something gave me sunglasses i don't know what they gave me so i was like okay well maybe they didn't announce it now but they're teasing people people are excited everyone's excited yeah everyone on social media is like i thought they were announcing trisha for every single year it's like trisha for dancing in the stars because at this point they had already announced three right or maybe four yes they announced quite a few it was like sierra uh mara the banana and the sabana yes right and i'm posting with guillermo and our old photo together and everyone's like is this a hint me hinting every year and it's never working my manifestation powers were not big but i will say i think my manifestation powers are still strong because i have doubt when you manifest you can't have doubt and it's not that i doubted i was thinking of the scheduling conflicts with like my book tour and i have a huge my biggest music video today is coming up it's a magnum opus cover okay it is the most insane we didn't think we'd get the location we got the location it's gonna be the most insane music video ever but it was only available in october so then i was thinking like oh my gosh okay how did you dance with stars and go do this video like it's like everything the book tour also like that so i was like so i already knew there would be scheduling conflicts i think my manifestation skills usually i manifest something like the disney wedding you really gotta believe it i was believing we have the disneyland wedding and the disneyland wedding is happening very short notice waiver you can't waver you can't have yes oh my god okay a great one of the best manifestation things i read like secret is like manifestation 101 when you manifest you okay it's like it's like when you order something online they gave this analogy when you order something online you click on amazon you order it and you don't even think about is it gonna arrive is it gonna arrive here safely is it coming no it's just like you know it's coming so that's what you gotta do when you manifest when you order it when you place an order to the universe you gotta be like it's coming it's happening so i think with dancing with the stars both uh both times i was not able to manifest it uh i don't know if it's for me i have to i i think look it's for me am i for them i don't think so because i think at this point they're on season 55 of dancing with the stars they have 35 okay 35 i've been doing dancing with the stars dances on since 2016 on the i was just like no influencer this year i was like okay maybe there's that one influencer connor franta no connor wood connor wood i would die i would die unfamiliar what does he do but i love that okay there's one i think is social media handle is fibula social media i said that's so weird but so professional i assume jake shane's friend is that right i is he's a straight man i want to say i saw him on a canceled podcast episode but i'm not 100 sure what god i feel like i do know a lot of influencers um i did not personally know him really he has like his handle is fibula he has 400 000 on instagram okay um i don't know if he's a fan of him i don't know if he's a fan of him i don't know um and like a lot of oomphie like tana follows him so i'm pretty sure he's been on canceled or something he's a connected yeah um yeah a lot of people what's he famous for is he a tiktoker a streamer i know he has a podcast okay um i okay okay okay he does a press release that says comedian connor wood extends fibs and friends u.s tour okay so he has a podcast and he's a comedian and he's a straight white man well what straight white man isn't a comedian with a podcast uh okay well you know what we're gonna support the influencers i'm such a firm believer of supporting because i i think people like they get me hooked right like i don't know who's a lot of people are like maybe 50 of the people going into dancing with stars but then i get like really hooked like i became a whitney levitt fan because of dancing the stars like i like every week i was like i love her so much so me too you know you like get to like the person so i think um andy richter i mean who would have thought he'd be a celebrity after you know like conan 20 years later like it's pretty cool so i like what the show does i like that it's still it's it has a resurgence because i think it kind of like died off a little bit and i think people are really excited like the photo shoots are fierce this year like them on their glitter steps and stuff i love that ezra is with julia styles like that is iconic i feel like say the last dance like all her dance movies are so good a lot of dancers harry shum harry shum jr yeah star of grace anatomy now on grace anatomy but of course yes we know from glee why would we not put at least glee and i mean he's glee and like that's crazy i loved his remember the one that he's like i can't sing i don't sing do you remember when he did it wait really it was so good i loved it he never sang the entire show but there was like he's like i really can't sing i really don't sing and he was just like dance around and you're just like i mean he was a dancer on the show he wasn't even a singer on a on a show called rewatch glee damn i want to rewatch it i want to rewatch it i want to rewatch it to him maybe we should do it with kevin mccale the glee rewatch podcast uh he's on rocky horror picture show on broadway right now and he is playing brad which was the character um uh finn what's finn's name cory monty cory monty played him on the show yeah he was and now um kevin mccale played arty is playing him on broadway uh but okay good for him he's on so he's on grace anatomy currently yeah love that and it is a big show um but you should also put angley because who was it on traders oh stephen when they're like from we know him from laguna beach but what did they put one tree hill no no absolutely not that's yeah that's true put an and yeah put an and when you know what you're iconic for and he has a dancer lots of dancers jenna do one do one yeah she's a dancer married to channing tatum did the lip sync battle as a dancer yeah she was in the step up movies that's where they met damn it's bad off the y2k dancing baddies and now she's i forgot what show she's on now but she's on like uh is it 9-1-1 she's on one of those like emergency shows i think maybe she's a paramedic or a firefighter fierce some one of those or i don't know she's one of those she's one of those emergency services shows that's kind of fierce that's kind of big i love that they're all like working sometimes dancing with stars used to be like where you go when you're working anymore for ezra and julia styles don't he had to move to new york right oh i didn't know oh that's what i heard yeah i heard he moved to new york yeah so that's where they're gonna rehearse and then they're gonna fly to la for the shows but like all their rehearsals and everything are gonna be like in new york so they really had to work around they're gonna fly once why did oh you think she just moved here for a couple months like broadway people do i know but i guess they were like desperate to get her that they were like whatever it tastes and 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without her roommate knowing exactly where she is some journeys are meant to be shared share your ride in real time with share my trip on uber one more way uber is putting safety at every turn learn more on the uber app like people watch it all the time so yeah i feel like that movie's really big i think like i even think um i don't know i don't know if it's a good movie i don't know um was she was she on dexter not dexter i don't think she was on something else save the last dance was so big i mean that's iconic where she's like auditions for juilliard with like a hip-hop routine like that was pretty cool she's great i'm excited who else was i excited i know a lot of people are excited for the olympians yes yes there's two this year yes there is uh ezra fett yes 21 paralympian right yeah she's a paralympian and then i'm amber glenn a lot of people are so really excited for what does she do she's cute right she's cute yeah she is the 2026 olympic figure skater oh period oh my god it's a stiff competition i'm glad i'm not in it this year honestly because like that's insane this lineup is hard just the athletes the dancers the performers the legend i mean there's a lot i think there's a lot of icons i think a lot of people are going to be really good like i think the competition is stiff like there are some instant like chops for me personally no shade i was going to say tyler cameron but which one's tyler cameron bachelornation oh yeah well they're always chopped yeah pilot p they're always just the worst guys yeah yeah yes yes yes the bachelor people bachelor guys are always the worst instant leno instant gnome yeah i'm even rooting for the hansen taylor hansen uh from umba from umba they're really going for the older millennial crowd to be watching i guess they're sprinkling you know both the younger reality stars like amora and sierra and then also some millennial icons so they're really pandering to everybody oh mora did partner she's with mark i'm so excited i just want mark she got mark that's very exciting i love that uh you know what i wasn't even talking not talking i was like you know i was being shady and being like wow a savannah banana before me but savannah bananas be selling out stadiums yeah they really are i wasn't familiar with their game but i have since seen clips of them yeah do their little not little i mean they're big but their performances and i'm like oh okay they are serving like kristin bell was there and performed with savannah i want to be for i would be like iconic characters on the internet i'd be like oh that'd be really fun um so i'm there i'm down for a savannah banana too i was like you know i'm not for this gas obviously connor is our winner right now but we'll see where it uh where it goes yeah i know some people were upset because brit stewart was one of the pros she is um with taylor hansen this season and the past few seasons like controversial people like she hasn't gotten like a good partner that's like a clear she was with god i some how was she with last season what is her name what's the brit stewart i saw the face and i forgot the name hmm i want to know who her ex-partners are now look it up okay so she was with johnny weir that was a good one that was season 29 okay then she was with martin cove he was old and they placed 15th oh no and then she was with uh daniel durance and they they made it to fifth place for that one okay um old adrian peterson she placed 11 so she hasn't yet to win she's the past few seasons she's been out like second or third like one of the early outs so do we know who she was with last year did say oh let me get the name i want to know because i watched last year i'm trying to think she was with baron davis last year davis what's he do he is an uh nba all-star and entrepreneur not a dance like yeah not a good dancer yeah yeah yeah okay damn so she's who she went this year she's with taylor hansen from the hansen brothers she said that she's really excited because she's a millennial and loved hansen yeah a lot of like the fans were upset because i wanted they wanted her to be with like a harry schum someone who's like a clear you know yeah instant fan favorite yeah i would be excited though he could i don't think taylor hansen is a bad guy if she was with like someone old like a guillermo or something yeah yeah it's like also like i don't know if i can do it you know right that would be really crappy but i at least with taylor hansen i think that's a solid you know candidate it gives me like daniel official where it's like i didn't think she'd go that far and then but she's like millennial in that same kind of era and people like really got behind it plus he's got two of the brothers that you know he can really do like dylan and zach afron really like string when are they gonna be there when are they gonna be in the ballroom you know when is he gonna do him bob you can't eliminate him before they dance to mbop everyone kind of has that iconic dance that you're like you can't eliminate them until they can do this so mbop will be cool they dance to their own songs sometimes right for sure yeah i'm so excited to see there's a same-sex couple yes um brooks nader's sister poor thing gosh it's like is she on the show with brooks she's on the nader what the hell is it called okay so she's on it she's not just like a sister of somebody on the show she is on it sarah j nader okay and hayley bills okay and do you think they chose the same sex or they just they want that or the show did it or i feel like the show must have picked it right they don't do it very often i was gonna say is she queer she must be let's see because jojo's the only other one right that paired with a female yeah okay and so sarah jane is bisexual and she wanted to have a female partner um and hayley her partner is the new pro this season so oh okay with the new pro i mean she's gourd they're both gourd they're both very beautiful um both very small my initial thought is if i got paired with the girl is like i'm gonna be doing the lifting i'm gonna be doing the lifts you know what i mean and it's like whatever you i don't think i have the capability to do that so i just i'm here for it i love it um i'm here for it but they're very small who's lifting who you know what i mean i know i'm excited for it though i remember jojo did most of the lifting when she was on but she's strong i mean it's fierce it's fierce when they do that i like it i don't even know if a guy could i don't know if ezra could lift me try next time i see him let's practice the lift i remember as i was like you're not announced i was like no i don't know but i love that he's campaigning and um better luck next year to me i'm also not on i saw a rumor of the traders i keep seeing that too yeah they're convinced that i'm on and that's great i love i love that my name gets tossed around tiffany meet tiffany new york tiffany pollard uh we're getting rumored who else was on there hassan i saw sanjaya part it's not hassan piker sanjaya from american idol yeah that'd be great though i've had i wonder how you and hassan would interact on a show i feel like he would just be afraid and like avoid you at all costs yeah we try who murders who first leah from love island there's also was in this rumor hypothetical yes okay the one where you're on the show law roach okay this is actually an amazing oh bretman rock is on this one okay simon cowell angela from big brother that makes no sense because she's on big brother right now so i don't know how that would work i guess it starts filming now or she's on right now she's on until october if she goes yeah um okay gia gun that's another iconic one oh she almost came on the podcast yeah there's some big names on this hypothetical list that would be fierce now i wish this was real i know when i saw it too i was like wow and then some people were like oh my god Sometimes I see things like, is this an announcement that I did not know, I know, I would love, 'cause traders it's the same casting so basically the people who cast traitors also cast dancing oh my god crossover i know i would have i would love but also did not get asked for that one either you guys so there's no i know when i saw that it's like contractual disagreements not often the money i'm like i said this once said it twice so do it for free i would pay to be on and yet they still are like no but that's okay i have other opportunities other things going on so when it's meant to be it'll be i think after the book well then i have to do the tv show based on the book and then it's a whole thing that's what i'm saying that's when yeah when they see you enough on tv they bring it on tv my credits are 50 feet long of just what was the one credit i mentioned today to glam and they never heard of it oh i was in the movie faster with the rock and they're like you never told us that story it's like yeah i guess i never talked about that one because we're talking about the rock today oh he picked up drew i think it's an old clip but there's one of him like picking up drew barry more like a firefighter like you know how they carry them on their back i was like okay damn because we're talking about like if the rock's hot or not hot i was like i don't know i never really found him hot and then i saw that i was like oh it's kind of hot actually because he was doing squats with drew barry more on his shoulders that was kind of cool and then that made me think of i was like you know what he was really nice like when did you know the rock and i was like oh i actually did a movie called faster with him and i was like a background actor in the strip club and he was really nice he was nice to all the extras we were all strippers in the movie so maybe that's why but he's really nice oh maybe like 2008 wow is there a movie called faster i hope so i think that's what it was called i never actually saw it uh somebody was an ice pick he's looking for someone 2010 is when it came out okay that makes sense so we probably filmed 2009 it was like my m&m era where i was like booking a lot of stuff and um i never watched the movie but maybe see me no one's ever saw me in the background but maybe i'm there has anyone seen it i don't know i know they even were like what is that movie i'm like is that a movie i think that's a movie it is a movie yeah and and like no one's ever heard of billy bob thornton was also in it yeah there's like a scene with an ice pick i think he was like going through the strip club looking for somebody and he had an ice pick or something i don't know yeah anyways i've been i have so many credits that i forget what they are did you send me the tweet about jeanette mccurdy's new book did you know it was fake or you thought it was real i knew it was fake but i was trying to trick you oh my god because i saw it and i was like that's crazy because i know she obviously her first book did so well like i'm glad my mom's dead or i'm glad my mom died and it became so big so i thought in my head she probably got like a 10 book deal so she just has to come out with these books so she came out with her second book and i was like oh she might come out with another one so when i saw that i was like i saw it before you had sent it and i was like is it then i always look now the poo craves yeah so it was a viral poo crave tweet which is a spoof of pop crave and it said jeanette mccurdy announces new book matter of fact my granny to come in this spring and i got 8.9 million views and i think some people really did believe it and i thought if anyone would i did when i first thought i did and then he sent it and i'm like does he know it's fake because i was like i already did my investigation it's a great title that is a great one she should come out with that one too is really good yeah if she has beef with her grandma that's like a perfect title does she i have no idea i thought that was real i was like oh it's so funny well good luck to all the people on dancing with the stars oh you mentioned dylan efron did you see the clip where i posted of dylan efron yes at the earl meets world premiere i guess the post premiere when they were like on the streets and these little girls were like asking people for their goodie bags from the earl meets world premier and fries like because he opened it with like i got mugged i got mugged at the i was like oh my god so i'm seeing good hook good hook for i because i was seated i was like okay what is this and then kind of it was i guess there was like a little mug in the thing and the girls were asking well he gave him something like a notepad or something and then they were like well can we have this too so he was just like giving all the goodie bag stuff and his friend who he was with she gave that she gave them her whole bag and then they clocked dylan coming and he's like oh look at my boyfriend's coming and the little girls approached dylan and they're like nine or ten and you just see dylan like completely ignore them and have the bag in front and then they meet up with him in the parking garage like did you have did you give those girls the mugs he's like no i kept everything i was like i love that and they're i guess they were just on the corner these little girls just asking people for their goodie bags kind of good rocket racket i guess i guess that kind of explains alex earl's demo because they were i wasn't expecting them to be such little girls that were like outside of this premiere and the premiere was at the netflix building so it's like one there's like five and the hollywood one like the sunset which one i think so yeah so they're just on the streets of hollywood outside the premiere waiting to ask for a goodie bag i feel like do you really need an earl meets world mug that bad like can't you just give that away instantly and not because i don't like alex earl but if a little girl's asking you for it for sure if a little girl asked me for like my car i'd be like all right here you go you know what i mean like anytime a little girl sees my toys or anything like that i'm always just like take it like have it you don't like yeah especially that was funny he was hanging out to do your life for it he was like i'm not giving that out like held it tighter yes that's what i'm saying yeah like in front he was like scared as that they were actually gonna mug him he's like actually no i can't whatever although moses loves a good goodie bag you do love keeping things a lot of times i like to just leave things and you love to grab a little goodie on the go yeah i mean i always look to see especially if there's something that kids might like yeah because they enjoy it yeah that's true i guess yeah we have kids does your little friend have kids no but he has a stepfather who did he did he dance with a little girl on dancing with the stars oh okay yeah like a little sister oh his sister that's what it was yeah he's a much younger sister i'm sure if he asked alex earl for like an extra goodie bag then like what the hell sure yeah i don't even know there's goodie bags being here now just like i don't know a mug it was lit it was lit the earl meets world premiere tana mojo i saw it was getting interviewed by et i guess any director from et was on the scene i said please interview tana mojo did you get any clips clip farming i think he asked her what's the first alex earl tick tock you saw oh i have yet to review it to see you know what this i would love to see her response if someone asked me what's the first alex i'd be like or like your favorite alex looks like when you ask me like what's your favorite jonah's brother song you're just like you know what i mean you're just like damn favorite alex earl tick tock the one where she gets ready like that one's my favorite i was giving you guys your favorite alex earl tick tock favorite alex earl tick tock i was giving you yesterday check out oscar's new vlog it's me just being like getting ready with oscar and i'm just like sitting back there you're like alex are all getting ready and i'm just like who did that there was a boyfriend that would always be with the girlfriend getting ready and he'd always be like wow you did great you look good and i had so i felt like as the supportive boyfriend behind you like this is creating it was good it was a good one um and you were giving alex earl get ready with me uh earl meets world do we like it are we here is it is it out i think it's out this week i think um i i won't really be seated for it but you know congrats to everyone who is although i did see like there was like speculation on alex earl's engagement if she's botting likes which i thought was interesting there's like a theory that she was botting likes to get her rate up and to get the show because the amount of like she gets like over a hundred thousand likes but then only like a hundred comments 70 to 100 comments and like a hundred shares or reposts so we'll get like 70 to 100 comments on a post with 100k likes and someone's like oh are they it's like her agency botting likes so she can get their rate up people do that people really do i'm like they also need to bot the comments though too so it looks like i know you gotta bot it all but then like what if you kind of bought it all that's actually really good but then it's like you can kind of tell when you do like events right like you can do like if people are showing up are they gagged for you at a book signing are they you know embarrassing yeah i think that's i think that's always the gag i think the reverse of that i think like nobody watches me online but then like when i'm like in person people are always gagged about the audience like wow that's the loudest audience we've ever heard and i'm like i'm always gagged by it too where were we and someone said oh america's got talent was one but somewhere else too and everyone's just always gagged like that's a lot you got a lot and like yeah it's like i don't know no one cares online but in person they like to see me thank you australia and we'll see what the ratings are i'm sure the show will do pretty well she did shade alex cooper in an interview with denny directo actually when he asked about um the drama between the two she said i'm happier just to focus on the premiere and having the show out there and you know hers are getting canceled so it is what it is so she really dragged her i'm like oh i mean i'll you know i like alex cooper just because i know her and i love her so i'm team alex cooper but that was pretty good because she did right the the the yacht show got canceled overboard yeah on hulu and harry jowsey that was a mess but that was that was the miss that was the worst steps are going on yeah these programs that was kind of funny okay i guess that's a point for alex yeah but also don't speak too soon because like your show's not out you know what i mean like i would hate to be that like if i call someone a flop and it's like well let's wait you've definitely been yeah for sure you definitely clocked a girl or two on their views and then guess what you fell off a cliff always no oh my god i'd always be like wow so embarrassing 30 000 and then it happens to you so just gotta be careful you know what i mean um but shout out her i didn't know the lore of her stepmom that's been my fyp is the ashley dupree of it all so her stepmom did you know ashley dupree before did you like were you familiar no i heard about it i think through you yeah like i knew of her i didn't know she was alex's stepmom yeah she was like a 21 year old the way alex roll calls her profession is so funny so she was like i guess i don't know how you call it either high-end escort i guess in new york for like high-profile people um and she yeah she had affairs with the was he the governor at the time new york i think elliot spitzer in 2008 and he was very much like reform and like clean up you know dubious acts in new york and then he was like literally having escorts and call girls and stuff like that so i think he resigned actually i think she like really took him she was only like 21 at the time and she um she took him down and then she was like famous So I guess people kind of just followed her for being famous and then found out that she was having the affair with Alex Earle's dad. And then Alex Earle said like paparazzi would come to her house when she was like nine or ten and the mom would try to like her mom would try to hide from it or something. I'm like and now they're just like all on this TV show together like a happy family. It's very weird. It's very bizarre because it's like one thing like you break up my family. Okay you suck. It's another thing to be like now you're part of this family. And Alex Earle said in her Hot Mess podcast she said that obviously they found out about this and that the dad was having the affair and that she had she was told to like be nice to her. And this is my stepmom trauma coming in. So basically she was like she goes we don't want to be nice to this woman who literally like broke up our family. You know they're like nine or ten or whatever. And Alex Earle was like my mom did a good job trying to like shield us from it. But then all of a sudden when they did divorce a year later and then Ashley Dupree's pregnant and engaged to the dad. And now the dad's like you have to be nice to her. So she's like oh I mean I guess now everything works out. So I guess like who cares. But piss me off for them. I was like damn people are too forgiving. Like again you have an affair. Whatever. Okay you're having a baby and a family. Whatever. Don't involve me with it. I don't know. I guess everyone wants to be. No not everyone wanted to be on the show. They asked Alex who was the most difficult to get. It was Ashley and her sister didn't want to be a part of it. Ashton. Ashton. Why do people name their kids so close to each other? That's so confusing. White people love a theme for the name. For sure. Yeah. They just name the same thing. That's why I heard Taylor Lautner and Taylor Lautner's naming their baby Taylor Lautner. Taylor yeah. They need to. That's kind of cool. That's kind of camp. Yeah. Just all Taylor Lautner's. Like you know I guess Kardashians are all the K's. Yeah. I bet my step cousin. I don't know. Cousins via marriage. They are all K's as well. Not influenced by the Kardashians. Right. Because they're like the same age as the Kardashians. Some of the Kardashians. But yeah. K is a crazy one though. I know. I know. And they're white as well. White and blonde. Yikes. That far. I don't know what y'all are thinking but. Do they not think about that? Because you know when you buy their initials like I have like you know an M and E and an A. It's like. That's true. Do you know what I mean? Okay. Luckily there's not three. There's four of them. Thank God. Because that would have been. Because the Kardashian sisters. They're the only ones with three K's. It was Khloe, Kris and Kourt. Kim, Khloe, Kourtney and then Rob. Thank God Kylie and Kendall came around. That's true. Yeah. That's a kind of a crazy one. That one's kind of wild. Our theme is Warner Brothers. Sponsored by Warner Brothers. The WB lot. Catch our kids there. You can see all their movie posters. I like a theme. Having it too close is kind of weird. Alex Rose is very pretty though. I do like her. Look. She's a very pretty girl. Yeah. I don't like her dad though. Then when you find out all that too and like the dad's on the show you're just like. I kind of want to look at you. Like you look. You disgust me. I know. I was kind of being shoved down our throats. And I'm like. I know. And they're kind of like there. And it's another one. Not as bad. But it gives like Addison Rae. D'Amelio's where like Monty Lopez is trying to be an influencer. I know. T. You know. And you're just like. I don't know. I mean too soon to call. Like he could end up being a Monty or Mark D'Amelio. Yes. Eventually something. He's going to write a tell all book or something. It always. Joe Simpson with Jessica Simpson. Like it just always. I forgot about that. Yeah. It just don't. Don't. And I guess that's why Jeanette McCurdy's book. I'm glad my mom died. She's like well. She didn't get enough time to tell all about me. So that's good. And she took control of her own narrative. Because these parents. They flip on you. They really do. Brittany's dad. You know. It's just. Just. A little weird. Yeah. It's fine if they want to be in a couple. I'm trying to get my dad to come on the podcast. I don't know if he will. When my book comes out. I'm like. Can he come on the podcast with me? Because now we're like in a healthy era. You think he will? Maybe. He used to be in some of my videos with me. I see him a lot. We're very close. But. Maybe not though. Once you get a little taste of the spotlight. Then you become a Demelio. You become Mark Demelio. He's on TikTok live. So my daughter. Yeah. Maybe not. Maybe. I don't know. But. Congrats on getting a Netflix show. Seems like a big deal. Yeah. You know. Even if you bought the likes. Hey. You got it. I'm trying to think how we do it now. I was like. Wow. Damn. That's a good idea actually. Earl Meets World. Good name. I like a pun name too. I have a relationship segment that I'm very. Excited about. Because I have two. Two sisters of mine. Who are really going back to their exes. First of all. Ariana Grande. She just ended her Eternal Sunshine tour. Yeah. But at her final tour. She changed the Thank U, Next lyrics. One. One last time. And. The lyric that was once. Wrote some songs about Ricky. Now I listen and laugh. She wrote. She changed it to. I'm trying to make him my last. Wow. You said you were only getting me. Married one time. Listen. That's. That's a sister of mine. For sure. She's also a cancer. Love the way she loves. But she's insane. Because. It's crazy. It's so crazy. I know. I almost. She hinted to him to propose. She's basically like. She's saying this is the one. This is the big one. But. No. No. Mind you. There was a quote from People Magazine. And People Magazine gets the good sources. But a source told People Magazine back in July. Which was just. What? Over a month ago. July 7th. That. Ricky has always been a friend and confidant to Ariana. And she really trusts him. She has such a great positive energy. Makes her laugh. And she enjoys spending time with him. But the pair were taking things very slowly. As they reconnected. Mind you. It's pretty slow for her I guess. God damn. Ariana. She's stressing me the hell out. She really be stressing me out left and right. I know. Like. God love her. Because she really will just throw herself into a relationship. And you know. Something about that is powerful. I will say. The fact that you can. You know. Get your heart broken. Or you can break someone. You can have a breakup. And then find the next love of your life. I was going to say. I don't think she was heartbroken. If someone moves on fast. Let me tell you. That's the one that's always the heartbroken. And you don't move on. Yeah. The heartbreak tour. Clockett. Oscar and Farai. Both there at the heartbreak tour. Behind the scenes. Yeah. Like literally. Yeah. If you're the heartbroken. If you're the heartbroken one. You don't get over it that quickly. You don't go on to the next one. And if you do. Then that's not. Then if you're the heartbroken. You go to the next one. Then you're not healed. And it's the whole thing. So I have a feeling. She is the heartbreaker. Which reminds me. The Ashley Dupree of it all too. It's like. Just a general PSA. It's like. The love of your life is not currently married. So it's like. You know. Just the Ethan Slater. Is the Ashley Dupree. It's like. That's never a good like. Meet cute story. It's like. Well. He was married with a family. But now we're happy. Also Roblox lady. Leah Ash. Is that her name? Your soulmate is not. You're not. Not married to your best friend. Okay. Anyways. Back to Ariana. You do stress me out too girl. We wanted Sunday in the park with doors. Not Ricky and you getting married. Like. What is happening? Like. I know. I mean. They're cute. At least Ricky is like. Attractive. So that's good news. I think Ethan Slater was more attractive than Ricky. I mean Ricky is handsome. But Ethan Slater is a star. He's on Broadway. He's. God. I mean. I kind of feel bad for Ethan Slater. I mean. No. He did it to himself. But still. But damn. You're. Where's the baby and the wife? I know. And he's been. Pretty quiet. I mean. He's on. He's still performing. He's on Broadway right now. Right. But it's so weird. Because he's performing on Broadway. So he's very public. But like. You don't hear much about him these days. Isn't that crazy? I want Ethan Slater to come back. I see him all the time. At the stage door. Girls are singing to him. He's doing just fine. He's got a little groupie singing to him. I love me some Ethan Slater. I hope they get back together. I would take you back. If you were with Ariana for two years. I'd be like. Alright. Whatever. I guess come back. I got it out of your system. Let's go. He's never going to get that chance again. I would never be like. It could. No. It's never going to happen again for him. That way. And. That's good. He's so. So does Wild Oats. Because everybody has high school. Don't make him desperate. You don't want to turn him into a desperate ex. Him or her? Him. Ethan. Desperate? What do you mean? Because you're saying he's never going to find something like that again. No. Like Ariana. Definitely not. That's what I'm saying. Well. It's not to make him desperate. I'm being realistic. And it's his wife and his kid. It's like. Okay. You went away with Ariana for two years. And you came back and be like. Alright. Well. We're a family. So. Might as well. I don't know. Maybe she lost love for him. I don't know. Sad. Don't cheat. I blame the men. I do blame the men. Let me make that clear. Also. What's Alex Earl's dad's name? I don't know his name. Alex Earl? Is that his name? Like it's probably another one. The men are to blame. Okay. I'm guilty of two of losing sight of this. The men are. Thomas. Thomas TJ. Well. Thomas TJ Earl. TJ Earl? I do not trust a grown man whose name. Who's going by TJ. Right. Yes. That's a little boy's name. No. Yeah. TJ Earl? TJ Earl. I don't like that. It's giving PJ Miller. The preacher. The pastor. Death of a pastor's wife. Ah. Don't like it. Anyways. I blame you. I blame you. That's where I need to go. Not Ashley Dupree. I blame you. What are you doing? Having an affair when you have two little girls. Like what are you doing? Like you're so. God. I'm about to hate you men again. Ethan Slater too. I'm going to just put it. I'm a fan. So I wear rose colored glasses. But. Damn. I don't know. I. Ugh. I guess men are just built different. You guys are men. You tell me. The temptation. Are you. Who's your. Hassan is like. Hey. I never tried guys. Let's try it right now. No. Wow. Okay. No. Because then also. I think that's part of why it's funny to me. Yeah. Is that he's like a straight guy. And we will never be anything. Like that's what kind of makes it camp. I see. Yeah. So then the second it like comes knocking on your door. I'm like oh. It's not funny anymore. Like it's not a bit. You know. I see. Like I love a bit. Like it's a bit to me. It's like fun. Okay David don't work with the bits. I love a bit. I mean that's. how we got me i do i love a little a little funny you know so then it becomes too real then the lore is gone and it's like oh yes yes yes yeah me too yeah they have to be like gay or bi or queer or something for me to be like well i guess bi is a little scary gay they gotta be gay gay then i'll be like okay yeah i get that yeah temptation your soul who do you call his soul soulmate he's like that soul connection how's that going over there um it's good but it's friend zone you know you're friend zoning her yeah i don't know if she okay i think she has to know you okay got it yes well yeah but i think a lot of people because we're very different like we walked into our relationship wanting marriage wanting kids one thing and there's people out there that you know kids happen things happen like they still see themselves as the main character and the kids are not the main thing and they still see themselves as a victim that they even have a family maybe they didn't want like so i think that's where a lot of people just not mature enough to see outside of themselves and see the kids and the wife as your main they're the main characters in your life if you're a father you know and husband so right there i think a lot of men just don't see that and they'll create stories in their mind of how they are the victim or they deserve more they need more they should do more you don't think they're just horny well there's there's also sex addiction yeah so that's another aspect but usually that's a um that's like a expression of that tjrl obviously when a kid he had three more kids with ashley duper he had two daughters and then he had three more so i was the one kids he's their manager i guess that's why some people have kids maybe to like they didn't have a career so like let's uh let's try and make something out of these kids because why is your dad your manager was he in this business before i don't know i don't know that's just so random if my dad became a manager you're my manager or something like oh because in the past i mean in the past families had the kids to be working the field like the more kids you have the more successful the family was the tribe and the parents literally owned the kids and all they did is work for the family like tom and lynette scavo at the pizza palace where they had all the kids working for them they fired all the employees so i think slowly as we modernize we walk away from that ownership but still today we see people that parents i feel like they own kids yeah they need to be telling them so many things so damn there is that where did that all stem from where were we at i like that i like the tangent no you were just talking about man cheating oh right yeah falling down to temptation that's all it is there is temptation is everywhere all the time and it's on many different levels oh it's mostly men like it's like 85 of men that cheat right that's probably right and then some people will say oh man want to spread their seed all that but i think that's crap i don't think that's really i think i think it's just being like i hate that what the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years think about it but now seven up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda now lime lemon soda is the new lemon soda comes first seven up flip the sip with share my trip from uber you can send your live trip location to the ones who matter most like dan and hannah who always wait up to make sure their daughter gets back to her college dorm room or tiffany who's running late as usual and her friends are tracking her trip to make sure she's actually on her way she's right there she's three minutes away or sam who never goes anywhere without her roommate knowing exactly where she is some journeys are meant to be shared share your ride in real time with share my trip on uber one more way uber is putting safety at every turn learn more on the uber app spread their seat i know i know people say that but that's like people try to convince you that evolutionary like all that stuff that man i'm like no no you're just being immature or being an addict or being self-centered selfish yeah it's all it's all the bad things there's nothing about it that comes from nature and evolution it's like it's mostly bad character uh well good luck to our ariana and ricky and speaking of cheaters hunter schaefer has been spotted back with dominic feike and they called it quits three years ago and hunter schaefer said on call her daddy she didn't name the ex but it was hinted that her last partner was the one who cheated on her which would have been dominic fight no yes don't get back with a cheater don't go back with exes period yeah never good idea yeah i was gonna say like it makes sense for ariana like that makes sense for her path you know it makes sense in the sense that nothing she does make sense so yes like for her i'm like yes for sure hunter schaefer who that's a true near and dear biological sister to me yeah and i am like extra protective of her very socially just because i love and adore her so much i'm like a little bit worried because on august 31st um dumois your favorite and then i'm gonna source um sent that asked me if they knew that dominic and hunter were back together because they were spotted in chicago and dumois then confirmed that hunter also attended his august 27th show and then they were spotted again at a bar on september 1st ahead of dominic's tour in seattle in seattle god she's following him around too that's what i was gonna say it's not just like oh they we were just in the same town we just had a fling yeah it's like okay it makes sense maybe hunter was filming something in chicago but then now you're in chicago one day and then three days later you're in seattle okay now it's looking a little you must have a good penis because you only fly across country for a penis if it's like you know worth it you know what i mean damn and then uh on september 1st there was also like a blurry uh tiktok that surface of what looked like hunter and dominic seemingly kissing and they first started dating after euphoria in 2022 and they dated until 2023 and dominic said that they ended up breaking up because he had issues with codependency and then that was his side of the story and then hunter in 2024 when she did call her daddy um talked about how getting cheated on fundamentally changed her and she even cried like she broke down in tears during the interview because of like what that experience did to her and she did say that the breakup was mutual and she said that she was initially agreed upon but he did cheat mind you and um it was a cleaner breakup than ones that she's used to and she said that he's a special person they still have love for each other but the timing is also interesting because uh dominic feike he just said one of those you know genius you're you need to do a genius i would love i just mean i'll tell you what those lyrics mean i would love to see you with the yellow the yellow backdrop was hers a real genius one yes it was real that's kind of iconic that's fierce yeah that's so good i know because she didn't really have a publicist or anything so what if i'm the monster you need to do that i would love genius yes that's never brought up like with all the book stuff and all the press opportunities never once is there a genius in there i guess it doesn't have to do with a book but i'm doing a lot of stuff with like buzzfeed and audible so maybe genius will be in there somehow i'll call ca today it should be lydia if you're listening genius here we go dominic did his genius interview he was explaining his song baby doll earlier this year and he said i'd never move on from anyone i've ever dated so if you're still out there any one of you please maybe it's not on the cards for me i don't know but i'd like to try again so please reach out so and i saw that clip kind of pick up steam this a couple weeks ago so i'm like did hunter just like stumble across that and was like all right let's reach out yeah which i will say i'm trying to like put myself in her shoes because you know i speak as if i'm the strongest man i like i no man i never succumbed to a man you know but like granted when i was single i was falling to my knees left and right you know so i'm putting myself in in that situation and i think if i as an ex and i had an ex i still kind of had feelings for ended badly but enough time has passed that i've healed that and i would have song kind of begging to get back with me i don't know if i could you know be strong but we're also not skinny rich superman we're not skinny rich superman we're not skinny rich superman you know what that's true if i had opportunities and premieres and movies and all these things coming my way my exes i had nothing going for me i was lonely no options mind you we were desperate that was oh oh he said he might want me back i'm coming back but it's hunter shaper she's like the supermodel of the world so that's why it's like movie star body blade runner euphoria hunger games like to me i'm like don't even talk to me unless you're a supermodel i'm not a supermodel i'm not a supermodel i'm not a supermodel you're austin butler you know what i mean like i don't want anything to do like that's jacob alorty like that's it like not not no but i know what you mean at the end of the day she is just a girl so it's like we all we all have been there and like i said i mean the dick might be mom because she's traveling and that was me and you'll know in my book i was going to toronto to new york on my own time yeah i was going on a world tour i was i was calling out of two and a half men i'm like sorry i gotta go get this dick like it's so crazy like it's a men and and um sex will make you do some crazy things and that is it's both uh it's really a curse being attracted to men because they really are kind of the worst but at the same time they got us sprung you know i really want to know are you playing a surprise for me wait what moses has been secretive all morning and he's never secretive no i wasn't i was so are you playing a surprise when she was she left her glam i talked to the makeup artist because i wanted to get some something to do like dust i wanted to be like i'm at burning man and i'm coughing dust oh but then i looked at the camera and you can hardly see it so i didn't do it and I didn't want to get dust everywhere on the camera. So I told you, it's not anything. Well, you should at least try the bit now that you got the dust. I tried it. I practiced, but it was not. Did you get it on camera? It doesn't translate. You know how smoke doesn't. No, no. I was just looking. You know how smoke on camera doesn't work unless you put tons of smoke. So it's the same thing. Because I was like, he came into glam and I'm getting out of the room and we're usually like in here conversing. And then I let glam leave. And I usually go back in. I'm like, I'm going to go change my outfit and do my TikToks in that beautiful light. And then I hear Moses like whispering in there. And I was like, and then I'm like, am I gray outside the door? Because I'm like, what is he saying? And then I'm just like, I can't hear. All right, I'm just going to like go back in this room and then question him when he comes in here. I was like, what were you saying? And he smiles. He's giggling. He's turning red. He's like, what? What? What? And I was like, what do you mean? Why were you in there whispering? And that was OK. That's what it was. But why were you whispering? You were kind of talking quietly. Because you just left the room and I didn't want you to come back. Because I knew that if you hear me talk, the glam team is like, what is he talking? What is he asking them? What is he telling them? That is so funny. OK, so that was it. That was the surprise. Yeah, that was literally it. Because then also on the phone, you went like turn the phone around. So I was just like, what is happening? OK, I thought it was a surprise for me. I thought maybe like when he proposed to me, he's like, OK, make sure she's glam. And also said that there was something happening. But we have a wedding renewal. We know that. Well, I know. But that comes with the proposal renewal. What? No, I did not know that. Yeah, that's part of it. That's part of it. I need to do some research about that. That's part of it. It's actually part of it. OK, well, I like that. I like the commitment to the bit. But there is a big surprise, but it's not this time until it gets here. For me? You sound like Malibu. For me? For me? When does it get here? I don't know. Today? It's already. No, no, no. I think you just made this up to be like, actually, there is a surprise coming. No, you kind of know about it, but it's actually cooler than we thought. But it will be here for the wedding. For the wedding. Is it the pink Rolls Royce? No. There's a pink one with black exterior and it looks like Tara Yemi. And if we're doing a Tara Yemi Halloween costume, I'm like, we kind of need that. But then I'm like, no, now we're doing the Disney wedding, so no. And also, who needs a Rolls Royce, really? That's really just a waste of money. But is that what you're getting? No. Do you want to know the category? Yeah. Jewelry. I know. And it's cooler? Did you see it in person? Is it here? I saw videos of it and it's cooler than we thought. It's the Van Cleef that everyone hates, the pink one. Right? Because I saw him texting someone and I'm like, who are you texting? And then I was like, oh my gosh. Well, originally I was getting it for you for your book tour, to wear on your book tour and as a gift. Well, book tour comes before the wedding, so can I have it first? Yes. Yeah? And then I thought for the wedding, because we talked about pink and all that. Something pink. Oh my God, that's so good. Was it less expensive than most Van Cleef? So did you know? Because it's like, it's like. Is it like a plastic enamel? No, it's not plastic. Well, I don't know what it is. But did you know that it's see-through, the pink? Yeah, that's why people are like, it looks cheap, but I love it. I love it. No, it's almost like glass, like you see through it, the light goes through it. That's what I'm saying, is it like more affordable than a regular Van Cleef, like an Opal one? No. Okay. They can charge you the same price. Like it's, it's Opal and diamonds or acrylic. It's like it takes a lot of labor to create that. I love that. Which now I understand why. They could also just be bullshitting. I know. We buy into it, like, well, yes, if it takes 20 hours to handcraft. I love it. I'm so excited. Okay, so can I wear it when it comes in? Moses is saying like, if it's Christmas, if it's a proposal, if it's anything, as soon as he gets it, he just gives it to me. So if it's like he could get a Christmas present for me a month in advance. But I stopped doing that because I regretted doing that. Why? Because when the date comes and she expects something on the date. No, that's so not true because I don't expect anything anymore. Now I wait. Now I wait for the birthday, for the Christmas. But not the pink Van Cleef because I have to get it while it's trendy. Yeah, this one is, you'll get it when it comes in. Oh, and for the book tour because I'm going to be wearing all pink if you're coming to my book tour. It's pretty much a gift for October, November, December. Yeah, no, that's fine. And honestly, gifts to myself. I'm doing an epic music video. I don't know if I told you yet what it is, but I'm doing this epic music video doing the Disneyland. So I'm like, I'm going to just chill on everything. But it's because I'm going on tour to Australia. So I take that money and I'm going to, I don't have the money yet, but I put it towards the music videos to show. It's my set. I don't do set design when you come to my show. You just see a big screen of my videos behind me. So it's my set. But, um, and the Disneyland wedding is, you know, vow renewals. We got to renew our vows to Mickey and Minnie. Very excited. Okay. We got sidetracked, but this is okay. That's exciting. That's great. Okay. Well, you look like the Emma Chamberlain sweater we just ordered yesterday. Oh, the Emma Chamberlain XJ Cruz honey neck sweater. Tiny neck is a crazy name. Tiny neck. Yeah. The advertisement for the collab, it's Emma posing in the J crew. So I'm going to be wearing the Emma Chamberlain XJ Cruz honey neck sweater. And on big text, it just says tiny. And I thought that, I don't know. I thought the comments were going to be full of people being like, this is problematic. And I feel like I was the only one who thought that. I was like, it's weird to have a tiny girl wearing a big sweater. And then the ad is just like tiny and humongous letters. No one thought it was problematic. I guess. And everyone's like, oh, people were divided on the sweater itself. Like if it's cute or not. Yeah. But no one was divided on the big ass text that says tiny. I kind of love that. I want to do a campaign. It's like big. Just like big. But it's like big jeans or baggy jeans or something like that. Just like big. Huge. Oversized. Ginormous. That's really funny. I do think it's ugly. But I also ordered a pink one, too, to be matching. Yeah, we're going to be matching. I have a blue one. You can do the photo shoot with your dog and the cackles. Yeah, I'm going to reheat her nachos. Me too. Emma Chamberlain really is the influencer that always gets me. Although, that kind of was my hot topic because, ironically, coincidentally, one of her ex-best friends, like in her early YouTube days, did a sponsored post for the tiny neck J.Crew sweater, like the day it launched. Oh, it's not her thing? Hannah Maloche. But it's not Emma's design? I don't know. No, it's from 1988. It's like an archival J.Crew sweater that they are bringing back, and Emma Chamberlain is like the face of it. Okay. And then, ironically slash coincidentally, Hannah Maloche, who, if you guys know Emma Chamberlain, is one of the Gertys. It was like a group of three. Three girls. It was Emma Chamberlain, Ally Thuman, and Hannah Maloche. They were the Gertys. One had a burnout. Yes, Ally Thuman. She was like 19. She's like, I'm burned out at 19. I remember that one. I was like, oh my God, girl, I'm 19. So, they were like a trio of a friend group. Gertys is a horrible name. It makes me think of girdles. Are y'all wearing girdles in there? I wonder how, I think it was girls and birdies combined. That is my theory, though. What's a birdie? Like the golf or like the animal? I think the animal. So, they thought they were birds? They were like little birds? Maybe. Tiny. Big little. Yeah. We're just little birdies, Gertys. I don't like it. I loved them as a trio. You loved it, yeah. You know, anything they did back in the day. But, yeah, ironically, she did a sponsored post on Instagram for the tiny neck sweater for J.Crew. And the girls were eating it up because it's just like, it's so funny because, yeah, they, all of a sudden, they were always doing everything together and then Emma blew up and then it kind of stopped. So, it was interesting. I don't know if they had like an actual fallout, but Emma has like never talked about it. She hasn't talked about them since. So, it's kind of weird. So, what happened? What's the speculation? What's the conspiracy? She just got too famous. I feel like she just got too damn famous. Yeah. And dropped all the YouTube friends. All the YouTube squads. I mean, yeah, because YouTube friendships are fake. Like, none of those people care about each other. They're also 17 at the time. 16, 17. So, it's like, I don't, wouldn't really think that they would stay biffles. Like, you know, you're a teenager. I don't know if you always keep your teenage friends. Especially YouTube. YouTube teenage friends. Yeah. That's true. I don't know if you're like Alicia Marie because I feel like she has friends with all her, like, teenage. Hannah has been friends with all, everyone, like, Ashley Amari since she was, like, 11. So, maybe, actually, yeah. Yeah. Isabel, I think, yeah, she's kept all her, yeah. I think most people do. Just not us. I think most people have healthy relationships. But YouTube friendships are fake. So, we know that. Gabby Hannah tried to warn us that every YouTuber has a fake friendship. And she's not, she's not wrong. Not completely. Well, so, it's healing is what people are saying. She did this advertisement. Or she did, she wore this sweater. I don't even know if she knew. It was Emma Chamberlain, though, when she did it. Like, maybe she just thought it was J.Crew. Like, which is fairly likely. Like, if they were going to bring back this piece anyway, then they just got Emma for, you know, the campaign. I see. And Emma said she was happy to do this campaign because she hasn't really been working lately. And it's like, oh, this, finally, I'm going to, you know, get back up and work. Oh, Emma said that? I feel like she's, like, the face of everything. She's, like, the furniture face and the coffee face. I know. West Elm was just a couple months ago. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I feel like she's everywhere. Coffee. Chamberlain Coffee has food now. Like, overnight oats, so don't get too excited. It didn't look that great. No shade. It just, like, was very, you know, healthy forward, you know. Why do people do that? I could actually get behind it overnight oats, but this one looked, like, very oat-y. Like, you could see the oat itself. Why are they overnight, though? Why are you soaking them overnight? Because I don't like warm, like, warm oatmeal, but I like a chilled overnight oat. You want a cold oatmeal? I do like a cold oatmeal. I like an overnight oat. I think you're just influenced by these girls. No, I've always liked them. I've always liked an overnight oat even before I knew Emma Chamberlain had hers. Because I also like a pudding. This is a whole other tangent, but I do. Like, I like a pudding. Like a tapioca? I like a chia seed pudding. I like a tapioca pudding, so it gives me a similar sensation. I love tapioca. So I could get behind an overnight oat. I can't. I like all the things you mentioned, but not an overnight oat. I can't. cottage cheese. I've been a cottage cheese person lately. Are you into it? No, I'm not a cottage cheese girl. Granted, I haven't tried it, so maybe I would like it. But the concept. You can't say you don't like it. The name. Ugh, I don't like the name of it. Same. And I was like, ew, I don't want cottage cheese thighs. Yeah, that sounds gross. No, but this is a new thing I need you to make me. It's a ground beef bowl. Have you seen it? The ground beef and soup. No. You're FedEx. Is it the Van Cleef? I don't know. Oh my gosh, he's over it. He's over you. He's over you, Jimmy. It was a heavy sigh. I can tell when Moses gets real irritated. That one was a real one. Damn. Keep it in, Jimmy. He's over you. Oh my God. He said, stop it with that. Oh my God, I just said it was the Van Cleef. It's not that. I was excited. So the FedEx guy, he comes up and if I don't get somebody to come down and sign it, they leave. So I'm trying to text them. Why take it out on me? I'm just asking a question. Jeez, okay. Because it's your package, too. Well, lovely segue. Another relationship podcast that goes awry very often. Raven, Simone, and her wife, Miranda. How did we not talk about this Monday? Because after we talked, I knew about it before Monday, and I'm like, how did we not talk about this? Because it was like, I guess I blew up more, but the original interview I saw over the weekend, were they on Kiki's or were Kiki back on their podcast? So, they had Kiki Palmer on the Tea Time with Raven and Miranda podcast, and it was a continuation, or our conversation was brought up when they were originally on Kiki Palmer's podcast. Oh, so they were originally on her podcast. Yeah, so it all started, this drama, when Miranda and Raven were on Kiki Palmer's podcast back in the day, and Kiki brought up That's So Raven and asked Miranda if she was a fan of Raven on the Disney channel. And then Miranda got backlash because she said that she did not watch That's So Raven, and she said that she has watched even Stephen, and she knew of Raven because she watched the Disney channel, but she did not watch That's So Raven, nor did she watch the Cheetah Girls. So people really took it a different kind of way, because it was so specific. Like, yes, I watched the Disney channel, but I just did not watch That's So Raven. I think it got interpreted as almost like a microaggression. Like, oh, so why are you watching all the white families, but not the black families? I think that was a big aspect to it as well. So she got a lot of hate for it. I remember Raven had to even, like, make a TikTok sitting down with her and be like, stop sending her hate. You are insulting her and then insulting me by doing that. And please, you're watching even Stephen's Not That So Raven. That was, like, the big, that was the number one show. And then there's another clip of Raven and Miranda doing Vanita's podcast, and Vanita was talking to them about Xenon, and Raven goes like, yeah, Miranda, she hasn't seen Xenon. And she goes, no, I've seen it. And she goes, what? And she goes, yeah, I just didn't know Raven was in it. Mind you, Raven is, like, the co-lead. And to me, I, and no, I think it's giving a little pick-me, like, yeah, it's just trying to seem like, oh, like, I wasn't the fan. Like, because I think Raven had a thing where she wouldn't want to date fans like, back in the day. So I feel like it's like, oh, yeah, like, no, like, yeah, I knew you were a thing, but, like, I didn't really watch you or anything. That is my interpretation. Like, she's trying to downplay it. Sure. But you're married now, so you don't have to downplay it. Yeah, you don't have to be a pick-me about it. Like the Taylor and Taylors. She's like, well, because she was like, oh, I was always team Edward. But it's like, okay, but you were a fan of Twilight. You can't be. Yeah, like, that's fine. Yeah, so now you're just coming across as a bitch. And everyone is telling you that. The whole internet is like, you're being a bitch, and stop it. And she continues, and then she doubles down. So then now Kiki's on their podcast. Yes. And she's trying to blame Kiki. She's like, well, when we were on your podcast, when I got into a little bit of trouble, and Kiki, like, starts talking, she goes, don't worry about it. It's fine. And it's like, he's not worried about it. And mind you, she was not going to apologize. She's like, you don't need to apologize. It's fine. Mind you, Kiki was not about to apologize. She's like, I asked you a question, because why the hell are you on my podcast anyways? But I'm trying to be polite, because you're here, too. I want Raven, and I guess I'm going to ask you a question. And you're the one who answered it like a dumbass. Like, that's, like, such a crazy thing, because even if you're, like, married to someone, right, it would be like, it's like, at least now, like, give her the accolades. Be like, you know, yeah, I love, yes, I love That's So Raven, too. Like, of course, I watch, like, you know, say something. Not be like, never watch it. Oh, you were in Xenon? Even if she was Iconic Nebula. It's like, we knew, we know that, like, you know who it is. She's in it, like, a half the time. Yeah. 70% of the movie. It's, yeah. There's no way you don't know Raven, Simone is in Xenon. That's when I was like, no, this is getting too ridiculous for me. That, and, like, especially if you're watching, if you're watching even Steven's Lizzie McGuire, that's Raven's on the exact same time. It comes on the exact same time slots. You see the crossovers. You see them all happening. Like, Raven was, even in the commercials of Disney Channel, the circle of love. Like, she's always there. She's always singing, like, obviously Cheetah Girl. Like, there's just no way you miss it. There's no way you miss that if you're watching. Maybe you miss Phil of the Future, okay, but, like, not That's So Raven. That's, like, crazy. Yeah, and, like, then her argument was, like, I never said I didn't know who Raven was. I just did not watch That's So Raven. But, yeah, because then, this is the problem when you bring this stuff back up, because now we're going back to the original clip. Right, right, right. Okay. So, in this new clip, she's saying, like, yeah, like, I was watching Sex and the City when I was that age. But then, in the original clip, she's saying she watched everything else on the Disney Channel, but then didn't watch anything Raven was in. So now she's just like, I was actually watching HBO. Yeah, she's like, I just wasn't watching Disney at all. So I'm like, okay, but now you're, like, rewriting history, but we got the clip, and we're like, no, now you're trying to play in our face again, because, like, you said you were watching everything else that was on at 6 and 7.30, but you weren't watching, like, 6.30. 6.30 was the Raven hour, and you're suddenly missing it. Oh, my gosh. And then when she said, when she called it, you know, when we discussed TSR. I, I, like, when she brought, first of all, that's the shade room. Like, we're not Everyone thought, everyone was like, the shade room? No one calls it TSR. She's really trying to do, like, Raven Eraser, because, like, literally, that's a, like, she's the only person on Disney Channel who had her name in the title, and you're trying to erase that. You're trying to downplay that. TSR. Was it McGuire? No, but it wasn't Hillary McGuire. It's That's So Raven Raven Baxter, Raven Simone, Raven's been Raven since the beginning. So, like, that's in it. That's in the title. And so, now you're trying to take that away from her. You're, like, trying to, like, strip her of her name. It's like, oh, when we talked about TSR, what the f*** are you talking about? You know the controversy. You know everything. If you didn't know That's So Raven, you know it now. So say it. Say it. Like, it's so frustrating. I know. I, and it's one of those things, again, where, like, you could easily be like, I was just trying to play it cool and, like, act like I wasn't such a big fan, but it is really cool because, like, she is iconic, you know? But, like, tripling down is a little nuts to me. Tripling down, trying to blame Kiki. Like, it's so crazy. And Raven, I feel like, I don't know, we haven't seen any follow-up yet, but Raven in that clip, I feel like she was kind of like, I'll just let her, like, let, she was kind of, like, okay with Kiki. Because in that moment, I don't know. I don't know. I think she needs to stop doing interviews. Mind you, she has a podcast. Okay. Well, I guess maybe stop asking questions on the podcast. Just be there. Be a support. Because she'd always be running into these problems. Because another one was when she said that she has more money than Raven, too. That was the whole controversy, where it's like, oh, like, people think I'm with Raven for her money, but I actually have more money than Raven. So, like, she does put herself, like, she puts her foot in her mouth a lot. Oh, the child star, did you see when she's like, actually, I was a child star? And she was like, oh, yeah, Raven's like, yeah, what were you, like, nine? Actually, I was six when I did that show. What show did you do? What were, don't act like you also were a famous child star and you're also super rich. Like, you're with Raven, Simone. I think she's just so, I guess it's just that complex, where it's just like, she wants to be the star and people are not giving her star treatment, but you're married to a star. Like, and that star is being very generous. Most stars don't want to share the spotlight. Most stars are like, I'm not doing a full podcast with you. She's very generous to, like, bring you to the interviews. Like, you're on the Kiki Palmer podcast because of Raven. Kiki Palmer does not care about you. And then, now, you're on this podcast, so you're able to make money with Raven. So, it's like, embrace it. I don't know. Like, it would be weird if Taylor Lautner, female, was like, Taylor Lautner, male, like, don't know who he is. Like, don't know what, you know, it's like, I was actually more famous before. Like, it's just a weird, nobody wants it, nobody likes it. And people are, like, coming down on her and be like, no one likes this. And they just continue to just triple, double down. It was just, I, I cannot stand her. She's, it's just annoying. And it's just frustrating. It's frustrating because people are saying like, hey, especially when Kiki's like, hey, it's just kind of hard for people to believe. And you just be like, at that point, just, yeah, you're right. Concede. Be like, yeah, I'm insecure. Yeah, this, stubbornness, I think it really does get to me, too. I go in open-minded wanting to like her for sure, but like, I've yet to feel it. Sure. You're like, Raven is super protective, too. Yeah. So, I don't know. Because also, like, she, obviously, Raven doesn't need to do a podcast. So, like, obviously, it's like, yeah, like, we'll do it together. And that way, I don't know, puts your name out there, you know. For sure. But, if it makes everyone angry all the damn time, like, you have Colleen on, you're doing this, you're doing that, like, it seems like every time I see them, it's, like, negative. Like, I don't see a positive clip on this. That part, because I know they, I was asked, I don't know, like, who asked who, but I was asked to be on it. And I, like, and I do love Raven. Like, who doesn't love her? I think that's the thing, right? It's like, Raven is iconic, especially for millennials, Gen Z, obviously, even, like, Gen X, right, from Cosby Show and stuff like that. Like, she's just been around so much. Like, she's so iconic. So, it's like, just like the Taylor Watner podcast. I'd be like, oh, yeah, let me go on there, because that's cool, right? Like, even though, whatever, like, it's not really my era, but it's like, okay, it's a celebrity. I did the Rainn Wilson podcast, you know, and I'm like, oh, a celebrity wants to be on, sure. So, it's like, oh, man, to, like, get asked to do the Raven one was pretty, what's it called? What's the podcast called? T-Time with Miranda and Raven. T-Time with, why is Miranda's name right? I guess I'm not sure. Let me make sure. Okay. It should just be. The Raven-Symoné podcast with Miranda. It is Raven and Miranda. Okay. Me setting her up. I know. I was like, Miranda's going first? That's crazy. Then I thought, well, maybe I'll put a quarter. Okay. And it's like, God, that would have been fun. But yeah, my thing was, yeah, when they had Colleen on, I was kind of like, and just not questioning, not having any facts. You're just like, okay, maybe this is not the one. The Lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows. Their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything. Even our music. That hit song named after the color of lemons? Not a coincidence. Big Lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years. Think about it. But now, 7-Up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda. Now lime comes first. 7-Up. Flip the sip. One for me to go on, but then seeing this, I'm like, damn. And, you know, as a lot of TikTok is saying, Raven seems like she's happy. She's happy with her and she really loves her. So, you know, I guess that's fine. Just more to keep off social media because it's just angering so many people and souring Raven's legacy because she is just, she'll always be iconic if she did nothing else. Having that so Raven was like, it was like such a, it was such a great show. It's like really iconic. Cheetah Girls. And Cheetah Girls is coming back. She's down in Africa right now with Adrienne Ballone, right? Yeah. They just, and they rebooted or revived Raven's Home. That's right. So they did that. They did that. Now she's redoing Cheetah Girls. So she's still like working. Did you see the clip of, is his name Eddie? Oh, yeah. Orlando Brown. Did you see? It's probably old. Yes. And he was telling Raven like, love you, Raven. You're the best. But like, get back to work. Leave that wife. She's a mess. Like, stop. Leave her. Leave her. And I was like. Raven, get that girl away from you and get back to work. That girl got you doing podcasts. Get rid of her. Who is she? You ain't got no business with that white chick. Does he know something we didn't know? Like, I don't know when that was out. But I was like, did he know something like before we all knew something? He's just like, leave her. And like, Brandon's like, won't. You know, when the internet's like screaming at you to leave and you're in love. It's just like, you know, they stay. But it's like, like you said, you kind of like want to root for them because they're like such a cute couple. And you're just like, well, this is like kind of a cute story. Yes. And I'm sure there's a side. I feel like the side they're presenting is just a bad side. And I'm sure there. There is goodness that we're just not seeing all the damn time. But I think that's kind of the problem. You know, we got to like, no one can pivot these days. Like, if you get the feedback, they're not living for it. Okay, then like, let's change it up. Like, okay. I mean, you always say this. And I think about all the time. Like, okay, like, what are they seeing that I'm not seeing? Like, let me reflect and then bring you a better version of myself. Like, why is that not happening? It's kind of because they live in a bubble. I mean, this is a A-list celebrity doing a podcast. This is not a podcaster. Because they're not born to listen to comments or even read them. Right. They live a completely different life than ours. They live in a bubble, both wealthy and famous. And in that bubble, they don't hear any of this noise. Yeah. It doesn't exist. Their life exists. They're the center of it. And that's why. Yeah. And anything else, it's either hating on them or just not. I don't know. I'm sure they have a hundred reasons to why people hate on them, which are not the actual person. Yeah. No, it's like, it's like, it's like, you know, because, yeah, maybe she thought it was like being cute or funny. Like sometimes, like early on in the podcast, if I do like little, like with Moses, I'd like to do little jabs or like roll my eyes. It's like, oh my God, Moses again. Oh, she hates him. So then it's like, okay, you like, okay, people are like thinking that as a different thing. I'm thinking of it as being cute. That's what we do. It's like, oh, Moses. Oh my God. But then I'm like, okay, well, we actually do love each other. We're actually so cute. So it's like, let's pivot to show that side. So people don't think I'm just a bitch and Moses is just like being held captive by me or something. So it's like, yeah, you, they know you don't like that. And then, I don't know. But some people are, like you said, incapable or just not self-aware or. Well, I don't think it penetrates their bubble. I don't think it comes into their bubble. They live in their own world, surrounded by yes men, surrounded by people. Raven's down though for her wife. She is so down. She is just defends her to the ends of the earth. And I kind of like that. And they probably know, they probably know each other in such a deep depth that they understand each other. And all their issues. Yeah. Like she's, she's probably aware of certain things and she understands them and she's not. Oh my God. It's very you and me. You're the Raven. I'm the Miranda. And everyone's like telling Moses to leave me. Rewind four years ago, five years ago. Yeah. You can speak to Miranda because you've been the Miranda. I think you're right. And you can speak to Raven because you've been the Raven because you know there's a deeper person she does love and she knows is a good person. So you're like, I'm not going to leave this person. And here's why. And Miranda too. I get it, girl. I get you. You're being unhinged. But maybe that is like the rage right now is rage baiting is being a troll. So maybe, maybe they're trolling. I doubt it. Kiki Palmer just always at the scene of the crime. But she also doesn't back down, which I kind of love too. No, I love that. She didn't apologize. And she like, she rephrased her point and like reframed, reframed what everyone was telling her that it is not. She's like, well, yeah, it's like, how could you be in watching Disney Channel in nineteen ninety nine, two thousand? Yeah. And you haven't heard of Raven Simone. Like, you know, Raven Simone. Simone. I love Kiki gives me vocal stems left in my head. So good. It's been in my head, too. And it's and it's she's right, because like we said, it's like in between shows you would see Raven, like even if you are just going from even even Lizzie McGuire, like Raven's in there. She's doing the one. She's doing the Cheetah Girl promo. She's doing the same songs. And you can't say you've watched this and you haven't seen that. I can't say I watched Xenon, didn't didn't know Raven was in it. That's crazy. That's crazy. You can't say I watched even Stevens. Yeah. I'm tuned into that. So Raven, you can say if she stuck to this original PR of like I was I was you know what I was watching Sex in the City. Like if it was like I was watching Real World and Sex in the City and I just totally missed Disney Channel. Right. We can work with that. But we just can't accept that. Like you're watching every damn other show on Disney Channel and not that's what Raven that part. It's just like, girl, like, get the story straight. I was watching Kim Possible. I was watching Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. I was watching When the Bell Rings. I was watching Mike Superstore show, but didn't see that. What did you mean? You saw everything else? I like and her name's that Raven. Wait, who is that? She was on Disney Channel? That's so crazy. That's so wild. Oh, my gosh. It's like, what's the movie? College Road Trip. I did go see that movie because Donny Osmond was in it. But obviously, I wouldn't be like, oh, Raven was in that one. She's like on the poster with Martin Lawrence. It's just like, just just zone up to it. I don't know. She's and then she Raven was also in Game of Thrones. Kim Possible to that. I could understand. Like, if you don't know, she's a voice on Kim Possible. Sure. But she's so front facing everything else. A lot of episodes. Was she not in like Hannah Montana or something like that? I feel like she crossed over. She was in That's So Sweet Life of Hannah Montana. Right. So she's like going another show. It's just like a little ridiculous. Yeah, it was not. She was driving me a little crazy. Then the gaslighting and then we're the bad people do take it too far. Like, I don't say you don't have to send the girl death threats, mind you. But I mean, it is ridiculous. What was the podcast they were on? What now was that guy? There was a no. They were on another podcast as a couple, as Miranda and Raven. But I think it was a guy's podcast. I sent you a clip. Yeah, it was the one that went viral where he said that, you know, he he thought of Raven as like a that's a Raven. The Baxter's like a black family. And she's like, they're not. So why was Miranda even there on that interview? He was he was a guest on the Tea Time. No, let me double check. It didn't look like their set. I know the Tea Time set. No, it is the Tea Time. It was. Who was he? What was the blue curtain? What was I'm scared? I think. I'd be scared to go in there with Miranda and be like, oh, girl. Kalen, is he influencer or? Yes, he's definitely influencer. What is? Kalen Allen. He was on the Tea Time with Raven and Miranda podcast April. So it's an older clip that just like ran. I think in the midst of that Keke Palmer clip going viral, people are bringing this back up, too, because like I said, there is still an element of people thinking that like Miranda was only watching the white programming and not that's a Raven. Obviously, an all black ensemble cast, minus Chelsea, Annalise Vandepoel, but predominantly black cast. So this other clip has been discourse to hell and back of Kalen being like, I love that. So Raven, because Raven was like unapologetically black, like that was a black show. And then Raven countered like, but was it black? Like, and Kalen's like, well, she felt black to me. And Raven argued that like. If you take away the color and you make them green and hear the words, what color are they? And Miranda agreed before. Girl, why are we in this conversation? You know, that's a Raven. Like, you didn't even know about it. So now you're saying, oh, yeah, the writers, the writers actually were diverse. They were actually white. It's like, you didn't even know the show. Now you know who was writing on the show. Well, mind you, she has said that she has watched the show as an adult. Girl, why are you in this conversation? This guy. I think I'm a fan. This is what the show meant to me. Raven. OK, if that's if you want to, you know, defend your own show and think it's something else, I guess. But why is Miranda jumping in? Why is she nodding? Why is she agreeing? Like, it's just like even in this conversation, the discourse online, I'm not about to jump in and make a tick talk about if the backstories are black or not. Obviously, like, I enjoy the discourse. I like hearing people talk about it, but it's not my place to be like, well, let me give you my two cents. So I think Miranda in this situation, we just sit this one out. But that's the thing with Miranda. She can't sit anything out. She can't sit one conversation out. And especially this kind of conversation, like just you really could just support your wife. You could just sit there in silence to support. You don't have to agree. You don't have to add. You have to chime in because she. does say she goes on to say something like the writers were like white right marina says and then raven does correct her well there was a there was a mix of people in there you know what i mean so it's like why are you why i mean raven i don't have to be frustrated and then why don't you edit that out too if it was like moses chiming in on my childhood tv on my youtube back in 2006 i'd be like well you weren't there let me just cut that out because you don't know what you're talking about but they like left it in like it's so is is actually so crazy to me and i just bothered me so much it was crazy um wow the internet's never boring that's just and so these podcasts this is the reason people don't like podcasts i want to go on podcasts because those clips are forever they resurface and you're just like damn i know and like granted of course a lot of things get clipped out of context so i think in context for this one also i now have since seen several clips of raven like arguing this like she doesn't want like a label of like african-american and parts of it do make sense like she's talked to oprah even oprah she told that to oprah and oprah was like i don't know like they're gonna drag you on twitter like even oprah knew that this was trouble she's had something similar on the view that's one thing that so you don't want to be labeled gay i don't want to be labeled gay i want to be labeled a human who loves humans i'm tired of being labeled i'm an american i'm not an african-american i'm an american oh girl don't don't get your twitter on fire i'm sorry i mean what i'm sorry oh my lord what did you just say stop stop stop the tape right now yeah it's a sentiment she's had for a while um i would i think even before miranda because how long have miranda and raven been together that's a good question it seems like a long time it seems like a long time because the view was a long time ago yeah okay so they've been together since 2015 wow damn i don't think they're breaking up you guys i think they're staying together for the long haul oh okay she uh was a co-host on the 15th that's what they meant oh my gosh really so okay so it wasn't the past yeah so i don't know maybe i do put that because people are blaming miranda for everything oh who knows and that's what they meant maybe raven had this belief already right right we don't know that so you can't just you know say it's all miranda's fault but you know people are context clues though i just i'm not in this at all i'm so sorry yes oh my god i'm with you i guess like it yeah i if raven wants to feel something i feel like she should but i think she said before on christy carlson romano's podcast that the show originally that she auditioned to be the like sidekick character but then they loved her so much they shaped the show to be around her so and i've seen that kind of get like a game of telephone where like oh that's where everyone was originally supposed to be a white family but that was never the case like they never said like what they were trying to do for the show like or who they were writing it for or around but um just that she auditioned to be a supporting character she became the main character and obviously then they made her family black but we don't know like for a fact if it was originally conceived of like a white lead or anything oh yeah so um maybe that is part of why she doesn't see it being black but i think or it shouldn't send so many audience like obviously we watched it as kids and like it's like a black lead but it means a lot what i've gathered on tiktok obviously is like the like it meant a lot to see black representation like owen field just has like because he's doing press for adult season two and he's like seeing as like a kid seeing on disney channel like a black lead like raven who now plays his sister and adults his older sister no way yeah that's the first time she's on the second season yes the second season oh that's so yeah so he was like this is such a big moment for me because like that's why i thought i could do this because like growing up i saw a black lead on disney channel so i think yeah i think that's a big moment for me because like that's why i thought i could do this because like growing up i saw a black lead on disney channel so i think you gotta be you don't want to like tarnish that for like other you know people who grew up watching you and like believed in themselves because you represent like the representation is so important like that's why it's so important so you don't want to like erase that you know yeah i feel like most people are just like disappointed and sad and like i guess we gotta like let her but also like this was i know because you don't want to invalidate how she feels about her own experience so it is like tricky it's like you don't want to she she lived it you don't want to invalidate her experience but you don't you also want to like hold on to her experience and you don't want to hold on to what that did for you know black people watching her so it's kind of tricky and like yeah the issues it would bring up on the show too like people are like oh we like experience the same things when she wouldn't get hired at the job and the lady literally told chelsea is because she doesn't hire black people right so like i think people like these are real issues and it's being shown it's being seen and yeah i mean i think that's and it was kind of like the first disney channel to like touch like to have such serious like topics and issues like i feel like it was rare there was one that talked about like an eating disorder there was elizabeth wyer there was one that like someone didn't eat oh it's full house when dj would eat yeah so it's like it was very rare that you would get like a serious topic well it's actually had some pretty serious topics back in the day but um yeah damn i do love raven i want to love miranda i love love and i love lesbian i was gonna say yeah it's fair to have been like a lesbian couple and like i love i feel like there's not a ton of like high profile lesbian like couple podcasts right like i can't really think of any no um so that's big yeah like a relation a lesbian relationship podcast in 10 years it's like a long-term one it's like it's cool and you have like a celebrity and then you have i guess another two child stars i just it's just so funny because even if she did act at like six years old it's like it's like moses had a youtube channel also in 2006 but i don't think he'd be like just two big youtube stars coming together you know what i mean i think it's very like a weird assumption to make about something but i was a national geographic star that's right you were a fave you were the original jesus was that before i made a youtube video what year was that 2007 that was wow we were both up-and-comers yeah the same time so funny um we have yet to talk about jonathan bailey exiting sunday in the park after ariana grande did too and i meant to attach this to the ariana segment oh i know we did talk about it as it was breaking yesterday on our patreon but i'm why why are we doing this why did he that's you know i love jonathan bailey but a little side eye it's like just because ariana's leaving you're like oh well i'm gonna leave too it's like what i know and the explanation there was no explanation for him she was just like i need some rest he's just like uh bye he said ari is one of my dearest friends and my support for her is unwavering after much consideration i've decided to step back from sunday in the park with george why this brilliant introspective musical has been a real passion project for me not that bad yeah and i feel incredibly lucky to have shared in this journey with this team among many things the story explores the deep connection between george and dot a beautiful development of a relationship between a man and a woman and a man and a woman and a woman and a man and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman and i still look forward to seeing what the two actors who will now take on these roles will will create with it yeah they're not gonna create anything because it was your names attached that made it like it's so hard to get like a production made a play made funding all stuff like theater and the arts it's like but there were two big stars that were gonna bring like an audience to it and then the park with george is like it's old it's not that great but like would i have gone seen it jonathan bailey ariana was it yes am i gonna go see it now absolutely not who would i go see it with in fact i would have still gone see jonathan bailey i was gonna go see king lear or whatever he was doing over in london if i wasn't pregnant like anything with jonathan bailey on stage i'm gonna go so now you kind of i mean unless you also have like exhaustion like which is fine but like say it tell us right because we respect that even if you don't if you say it at least we have to respect it but this was kind of like i'm just gonna peace out and good luck to the people there's no more people there's only two people in the show so there's no more cast correct there's just a producer they haven't announced who is taking on those roles and who's filling in they the production company did say that the work is going to continue production is continuing but they haven't said what exactly is going to happen me and ethan slater we will be there in london that's your big announcement ah yes clock my numbers we're at labor hall i didn't buy those likes okay people came to the show i didn't put like pay people to come maybe my english crowd is where it's at i'm devastated over this i'm so sad maybe jonathan bailey like why would he why would he quit why would he leave maybe he was just trying to like hook up with ariana and he's like no she's not in it he's like my chance is screwed now he's she's with ricky she quit why am i even gonna bother i know i'm really curious as to what exactly happened because he's also friends with the like the director the producer of the show yeah so it's like you're just leaving them high and dry it's so weird also he has to have a co-star that he either approves or at a certain level for him you know what i mean well i'm available so he probably felt like you know without her he's not gonna have that and then but he's a big name right another big name next to him like he won't perform next to somebody that's not well he probably has a say in it he probably could cast anybody he wants i don't know maybe they've tried and they haven't found or they found somebody and he didn't so i'll say it makes sense to me if your co-star is leaving and that's what the show is built on no i don't know i don't know something's weird about it maybe you should get the one who played kate in bridgerton what's her name he was a co-star yeah right that was her i think so yeah yes yes simone ashley yeah she's british right yeah perfect and people would love to see that reunion yeah honestly true even um the girl played daphne yes what's she doing nothing because that british is not asking her back and she wants to come back that would be great you know who's over there right now is cola is playing mary maybe they'll be in it oh on the west end oh fierce they could just like hop on over to the next theater and be dot. Yeah. what the hell sure that'd be a good one all right we've got some options i'm also available because dancing with the stars didn't get me so i'm a good theater actress i've been on broadway i've been on um that's it jonathan bailey we met briefly at the wicked premiere you had no more time your publicist was pulling you away and yet you stopped to take a selfie with me which was uh the highlight of my life it was so exciting that was so fun ah that was a great time but i am uh i'm pissed because i wanted to go see this actually i didn't care about the play at all i really just want to see jonathan bailey the play is not great right you've seen it you know i've never heard anything about this play now is it based on the painter of the painting right the park painting it's based on his life are you asking you're the expert don't you know the painting i didn't know where the play is the sun in the park with george the painting it's like the painter oh okay okay i have no idea what the story is okay well i think it's based on his life um have you seen all the love island discourse the reunion discourse because i feel like as we both don't watch it but like if i guess if you're just scrolling through tiktok you can't really oh we talked about it with benji a little bit yesterday yes that was the extent of my knowledge but we can talk about it again well the only thing i wanted to bring up was all the drama surrounding kata because that was the biggest thing i saw about the love island reunion um and then i went to watch the part where she was getting called out for but kata who is one of the core four um she also just did owen thiel's podcast as well wow he's getting everybody he's got everybody whoever is booking for him is fierce yes um but she's having it she's oh are you i think next week oh that's yeah i'm very excited i hope i know he's so big right now so i i love him yeah i love him uh so kata was on it and she was addressing the bullying allegations which is ironic because that's why everyone is uh upset with her from the love island reunion but these allegations have been surrounding her for a while even since the show was going of people in high school calling her out i saw this one clip that's resurfaced of her mind you she's only 22 so high school was not that long ago yeah but she said there's like this uh clip from her in high school where she was uh calling her friend fat and like it was like what someone videotaped it like someone yeah it was like someone was recording her and her other friend like on on the bed i think and then she kata was like record this and then you can hear from but like no don't but she goes when you sat up it looked like you were 300 pounds and then she was just cackling i know oh my god jesus i know did she see the camera would she know someone was filming yeah it was like only three of them in the room it was like whoever was filming kata and then the girl she was saying was 300 pounds and it was not even you are the bully she said that she was never effing bully maybe in high school some girls did some shit to me i feel like everybody has a high school experience um i don't think i was i know i wasn't i know for a fact i wasn't i just on business and people don't like that so granted i'm willing to she's so young so like i'm willing to let all this go you know so she was probably like 17 at the time that's really not that long ago for her which is crazy like 20 yeah the fact she was like a teenager like in high school in 2019 2020 you know it's crazy um but then on the reunion she made this comment to another girl jayden who was talking about how um she hooked up with another guy caleb uh and she felt like she was led on and she hooked up with them again and kata was like well girl it's a two-way street so why them essentially paraphrasing but and even ariana was like oh like that's a little harsh and she goes babe that's not harsh like she was so she was just giving mean girl i didn't see any of this okay this was like the big takeaway from the reunion was she was just kind of being mean and she was also like in a situation ship like on the show with zach who was like hooking up with her but then also wouldn't commit to her like he was willing to see other options so like it's also like wrong messenger as well yeah yeah and it just came across like very slut shamey and well wait what was the such shaming part like it was basically slut shaming jayden for hooking up with him like that's on you for oh i see yeah and kind of ignoring the whole aspect of like oh caleb probably could have been leading this girl on she thought they were something they weren't and they hooked up like obviously it meant something different to her love island babe like we're all hooking up and it really it rubbed me the wrong way and then of course i had to do the vibe check by seeing the comments and everyone was also on the same page like okay work because i also followed kata because she's like so pretty i felt bad for her when she was going through it with zach but she's with zach she's like leaning on him the whole time and just being like a little cocky like rolling her eyes she's getting sass to andy ariana she's like andy who cohen cohen's there he's one of the it's him and ariana who hosts the reunion why is he at all the reunions i think he just likes doing it he just wants to look at anything in the nbc world i got it because even andy asked her like oh so like are you guys exclusive now and she goes we set that in the villa like she was so mean i'm like don't be mean okay um okay she was just dcm she was doing too much well those people fade out they and that's the problem is like she's a court fooler so like she's beloved i'm like girl you're not doing yourself any favors by just like being a bitch yes you gotta like time and place more flies with honey you could just be so sweet and people are just like oh she's so sweet and we love her yeah there is an element of like oh she's like she's fierce she doesn't take shit from anybody like that's tea that we love but like sir give that energy to the guys like don't yeah like why are you turning on the girls not to be that person because like it sounds like something a man would say but like it's actually kind of true sometimes like day one of your period you can be really feisty so maybe she just was going through a menstrual cycle beginning you know what i mean and it's true i know men say it's like ew you but like girls we know that day i'm a bitch like and i can tell when i'm on edge and when i'm a little feisty and it's always you know i'm bleeding heavy super ultra plus tampon in there and it's just like coming down into my pad and that's what it was giving so maybe she's having a little hormonal issue a little egg bleeding you know maybe because she was also supposed to be a part of an empowerment campaign for women called the step up women's network and after the reunion aired she got cut from that after she got a lot of backlash well what yeah that if you're going to be a part of a step it can't be taking women down and then be the face of women empowerment i fear that part that part yeah we need to uh people really need to start faking it too let's like just pretend let's pretend to be girls girls because in this day and age in 2026 it is way cooler to be a girl's girl okay and i feel like we should all know that by now it's not cute it's not whatever it's like we don't want to be pick me's it's like just okay let's put all the negative energy we have even if we want to direct it to a female let's just direct it to men you know what i mean let's always be with men and then you're just going to always win don't take it out on andy cohen or anyone all the viewers don't like the men and granted she's still with zach they did they did the cover of teen vogue and they got asked by teen vogue like who's the funniest guy and kata is saying i think zach's the funniest who is her uh maybe boyfriend now they were unlabeled for a long time i think now they've labeled each other and all the other girls are like they're like no shade but like you're the only one who thinks that like he is not funny no no no like she is just like so sprung on zach and i mind you the whole reunion he's not saying he's the only thing that he piped up on was to like defend his friendship with bryce remember everyone thought he was like bisexual that's the one thing he piped up on but like everything else he like kata do all the talking he didn't say a word so like you were defending him more than he defends you so like you just don't say anything like we don't like them and you can be with them but like that's fine we still love you yes do you do you like we'll support you but like you don't have to make us love him because it's not gonna happen so it's very raven and miranda again you identify as zach and i relate and i'll take it for sure i mean it's just it's just it's just how it is yeah people it's very like ken and bobby too oh my god yes like love him from a distance keep him off my time we'll deal with them if we must because we love you that much right if we must but please no please not if they get back together ken yurik the time is i know sometimes i'll get an old tiktok oh yeah and like obviously you don't see the date at first and it's like a jump scare of like ken yurik and bobby whatever his name is and i'm like oh my gosh she's back together and then i have to date my mark say tiktok's messy that way because i saw one of like uh raven and miranda too and it's like an old one and i would like see the comments and say like a day ago but it was actually posted like two months ago i was just like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so tiktok's messy those date stamps will get you every time you know madeline white is the influencer no okay so she's a tiktoker and she left her and her partner left their dog with a trainer while they went on um vacation and the dog trainer allegedly killed their dog and it's been a whole debacle and like they're launching a whole investigation into it i just thought it was so interesting because it's like a celebrity dog trainer in angeles and he apparently has this has happened a lot of times so they left their dog uh the two year old dog duncan with this dog trainer they met with the trainer multiple times before hiring him so like they met with him vetted him and everything um hired him to dog sit and while they're away he was also gonna like train their dog as well and it's um a burn bernie's mountain dog so they're big they have a lot of hair like a really thick coat of hair and this was during of the heat wave last week oh no yes so um they claim that when they left their dog all of a sudden they received a call within 48 hours of leaving him that he was supposedly taken to the park during the extreme heat wave showed showed signs of heat exhaustion in the car and then passed away by the time they arrived at the boarding facility but they were never even told that the dog was going to be transferred or anything so all of a sudden they leave their dog in this man's care and then he passes away and they pay ten thousand dollars for their dogs to be uh boarded and trained for four weeks um okay so when you say board and train so it's like a it's like a hotel for animals and they like take care of them at this one this one spot and all the animals are there yeah it's like a facility where they would take care of like joey's done it before too well the um when he goes on vacation he takes his one of his dogs there and then they will board the dog like the dog basically like lives there and they have like multiple dogs that they are working with oh my god yeah i was not scared and like what am i doing here like we'll be back in two weeks i mean they're they're conscious they have brains they're like they're being you know what i mean like they're aware their dogs are aware oh my god that's so crazy okay so oh wait because i thought that that's not the issue the issue is they're at this boarding school that's supposed to be like professional professional paid thousands of dollars to keep their dogs safe and was it just the heat the dog was like in a hot spot so it's that's what's like kind of fishy about it is like they were saying that all of a sudden he was taking it from one place to another but they never approved of it of the dogs being transferred because it's like oh there's no air at this facility so we're gonna take him somewhere else so there's like all this shady stuff and then um after they went public with their experience with this company they received messages from uh other families saying their dogs reportedly died while in the care of smart dogs training academy and uh they said that what started as a tragedy with a negligent dog trainer for our dog duncan has evolved into something way worse seven different families who under the care of jeff todd and smart dogs training have had dogs pass away under mysterious circumstances with zero explanation it's happening multiple times yeah some multiple people have since come forward to talk about like how that has happened to them too and my god yeah okay jail like what do you mean he's just that's crazy um and where is he is he just also it's like that past pastor jp miller he's just out there doing sermons it's like this he's still just running this uh hostel what is it hotel what is this this like dog board yeah well that's the other thing too is like it even has a like a yelp page obviously they have like big followings so since they went public with it they people have gone and like left bad reviews but they've been able to um file for like review fraud or whatever so all the bad reviews have been erased well at least seven have had their dogs actually die are they raising those two oh just we're getting hate brigaded it's like i know it's crazy but is it still running this hotel it's still like up yeah it's as as of right now as a right and it's one of those things who were like it's crazy you know how tiktoks and get like millions of views but then it's also like weirdly in its own thing like its own bubble it's like my parents would have no idea so if they're googling like oh where we're going away where should we put our dogs so it's kind of scary too right that's what i'm saying is like i don't know if it is like they have broken air or what but like let's shut this down for a minute so we can figure this oh my gosh so the influencer is making tiktoks about it yeah they're both like she's an influencer and her um partner i should say because i don't know if they're married but he's also he's like an influencer slash dj slash has a clothing brand uh so they both have pretty big platforms and they're like going to town about it which as they should like they're not gonna let it go away they're also ordering like um a necropsy i believe that's the right word but basically to see yeah to see that if anything like what was the actual cause of death you know because they're not gonna just take his word for it like they want to get real answers as to what the hell is if multiple dogs are dying something sus is happening whether it's intentional or not like they should be held isn't there like first degree murder second degree murder uh yeah like premeditated or not i wonder if that counts i'm sure like it's like manslaughter like when you have a car accident and you don't mean to but you do it yeah t you should still be held and that's i wonder if it's still a crime i would imagine it's a crime to kill it is a crime right yeah because even if you kick a dog like yeah you're so right that's good yeah there's definitely there's no one for there's no one for the animals people are saying that they're like they're leaving reviews on their business and they're deleting the all the comments and everything yeah that's great and the company i saw one of his tick tocks trying to figure out what happened there and you know because it could be like they forgot the dog in the car in the heat they could have done a hundred different things and they're just trying to cover up but seven dogs are dead so they're doing right so i'm saying negligence is obviously something that's happening there that's really sad they need a morgan and morgan for dogs because morgan morgan's ad we did it last time was for the people.com they need like a for the dog yeah do they not have like law firms that specialize in animal no i think they i mean they have environmental lawyers which i'm sure animals fall into that as well you need to call one yeah mike jackson if he was living he would not also let this be he loved animals and dogs and now he's dead and now the dogs are dying because michael jackson is not here that's so sad i know it that's why it kind of turned into a true crime the fact that there's so many i'm like now this is really weird we should be boots on the ground i think it's in studio city so yeah oh my god i get a blank street coffee going over we'll get like a fake like it's almost a catch a predator tease like we have a fake dog we have a fake dog like a whole setup oh a little sting operation yeah sting operation with like a fake dog and you could be in a dog costume and go in there they did that once that was somewhere they did a little put a person in a dog costume disneyland no oh no but our disneyland wedding it does say disney characters are available for your wedding you need the peter pan there is a new no i guess still true crime i was going to say hard transition but yeah i did see i'm the only one that still cares about baby tony but she is back again with green bean aka peter pan no girl yeah she posted yesterday she ran up to him and he was on the merry-go-round so luckily there was like a fence there was like a hedge between baby tony and green bean yes and uh but she was yelling at him via over the head yelling girl wait in line if you want to get on that damn carousel like why are we screaming that's so scary was he scared or was he happy it was a different actor he was kind of giggling but i feel like he's got she's got a reputation now and she's in a reputation era so i'm assuming yeah he's got to know what he's dealing with that's actually so funny i just know you're being recorded over there why is he on the carousel that's true his character is being like silly and like skipping away yeah so he could just keep skipping away and yeah he does like to like pick on girls like that's peter pan's character so you could just bully her and that's funny he's like get away with me you stinky girl like that's what peter pan always does so ew girls get away that is funny poor baby tony well maybe peter pan maybe she should get married there and then she can have peter pan come to what is she officiates your wedding not her peter pan he could be cute i gotta find someone to officiate all right you guys well we did a lot of twists and turns today this was twisty it was twisty turny topsy turvy and i i feel great about it how about you i think i went through all my notes i mean there was an island that mysteriously appeared and disappeared but i i know you're going to ask a lot of questions about it and i don't have answers so just know an island off of british columbia that had a lot of trees randomly appeared randomly disappeared i can't explain news or ai it's real no an island that doesn't disappear i knew that's why i couldn't i couldn't explain it so i was like i don't even know how to bring this up but it did it was crazy because it had a whole bunch of trees but then it just disappeared i don't know just well not all the hot topics are bangers that was giving moses hot topics over there i thought maybe most you know about this island he was like a one minute hot topic i was like all right thanks thanks for that i love it no i love all your hot topics i wish you could give me hot topics in real life just a discussion about it give them for the podcast kick it fresh i think we did secure the fedex package so at least that is it the van cleef no oh my god still snippy at the end of it get him some food asap all right moses gonna be making some big z on his cooking channel today i'm very excited from scratch uh-huh from scratch the sauce and everything period i'm so excited it's one of my favorite meals all right you guys i love you and we will see you next week it's gonna be a good week it's gonna be a good week only the week after we have something exciting too yeah you and me yeah it's gonna be good all right and the hurricane and the well stay safe stay dry maybe we'll be here in the hurricane okay bye