Just Trish Episode for Sep 24, 2026

I think also if you're establishing yourself as a podcast and we also don't know you, you should probably meet just being mad and jealous. [laughs] Everything comes from bias with us. If it's the toast, if it's anything, I'm just like, what the hell? Maybe you establish yourself as a personality before you go and get Emma Roberts. [laughs] If this is me, I'll do! I know! It's like, what the hell? That's how it works. Industry plans, or unwell plans. [laughs] [music] Her name is Trisha, she's got the fish and all it got. She's filthy rich, really in big hot topic, queen and says what everybody thinks she's just you. [laughs] Yay! [ding] [music] Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh, love it! Okay, okay. Okay. [laughs] Oh my gosh! Is this our proposal for New York? [laughs] So, why am I nervous as if I don't know the answer? [laughs] I know the answer with this. Well, so five years ago, I feel like my life started. And then after that, three more little precious life started. And then, if that's what we achieved in five years, I can't imagine what we'll learn the next 50. So, will you remarry me? Oh! [laughs] There's like, three boxes to open, so I have to put in one big box. Oh my gosh! Yes, before I even know it, yes, I will remarry you. Thank you. I feel like a reporter. [laughs] Thank you. Oh my gosh! Oh, there it is! Yes, yes, I will remarry you. Thank you. Oh my gosh, not all of them? Like, not all of them, or is it just a pick one? [laughs] Oh my gosh, it's the pink and yellow! Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. This is so exciting. What does the three represent? Oh, we have three little babies. Okay, like that. Oh my gosh! This one is really cool. I'm going to put them on now. Wow! Wow! It's gorgeous! Oh my gosh! Thanks. You're welcome. I hope you wear them in the wedding. Thank you. Wow! You look so handsome. When you came over, you looked so handsome. Most of them don't go in. Oh my gosh! Actually, yeah, we're kind of matching. How sweet! The pink. Thank you. Yes! She said yes! Yes! Oh my gosh! Thanks, babe! Oh my gosh! This is the best thing I've ever taken. They finally got here. This has been an ordeal. Oh my gosh! I feel. Because you know when our roads were worked on every day, they tried to deliver. And they couldn't get in. Oh no! And everything. I'm trying to chase them. And then finally, I got it. But then, you know, it just couldn't make it for Monday episodes. I'm like, okay, Wednesday episodes. Oh, I love it so much. This is great. This is the pink. I think it's great. Everyone was like, everyone hated this online. It's beautiful. You see how they. Yeah, it's like the iridescent. The iridescent. It's like the glass. Yeah. So you see through the envelope. And then the this part. Like, I didn't even know that part was up there. So pretty. Yeah, you there. Oh my gosh. Thanks, babe! I think you're like the first to have them. I know. So it's like, oh my god. Thank you for giving to me early. Because I think last time we talked about like, oh my gosh, it might be anniversary wedding. Oh my gosh. Yeah, we had our wedding planning yesterday. This is so exciting. We tried it in earlier. But yeah. Oh. Wow. Wow. That looks really pretty. Yay! I did not know this was happening. Did not have any clue. Like, I knew this was happening because I saw I'm texting. I was like, who are you texting? But I did not know. The proposal of renewal. Because I remember. I just talked about the scene. I'm not leveling to Tiana. Because someone was asking about how to share their proposal online. And I was telling him. I said, I tricked Moses into thinking that there was a proposal renewal. You're like, wait, what? And I was like, by just kidding. But this is great. And there should be one. Now we have the standard that there should be. Oh, my God. I love it so much. Thanks. Thanks. I mean, it's the ceremony of the gift giving. I can do a proposal. I love it. Yeah. Just presented with all these. Thank you so much. This is covers everything Christmas anniversary. Birthday. Everything. Thank you so much. I love it. Thank you. Thank you. Well, let's fit my wrist. It should. Everything should be. Oh, if it had two of you were wrist in there. Thank you. We got to this every year. I love a proposal renewal. Well, you marry me again. Yes. There'll be a current segment on our show. Yeah. How much room? I know. Wow. I know it's under needed. I throw all my excender is when I do the work. Oh. Wow. Wow. Oh, my gosh. Can we get some more? Wow. No, I love it. I feel so tiny. I was like, oh, my gosh. Beautiful. Thank you, babe. I think the necklace might. Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much. Malbo's going to love it. Thank you. Oh, my gosh. I can't wait to marry you again. That was beautiful. You made me cry. We did do a lot in five years. We were going through- That was serious about that. Yeah. We were going through a memory lane on the Patreon about the big origins of this podcast. And I was like, damn. Like, a lot happened in three years. Yeah. It was like, we did so much. And it's like, crazy. It's crazy to think about. It's like, damn, if we did all that, like you said in five years, everything we've done, three years, everything we've done here. It's like, sky's the limit. All was our early text messages. I told Oscar, I'm aiming big for this show. For Jess Trish, I want it to be on syndication. Yup. And who knows? Maybe syndication's dead. Yeah, I was going to say. Like, there's no syndication. It's just streaming now. I was like, wow. Did it manifest that? We were thinking early on, maybe most of you know, too. Actually, I have a gift for you, too. Oscar is not privy to anything other than we were going through my old notes. I was trying to find the original names we came up with for the podcast. So I was like, oh, let me go back to 2023. And Oscar, there was only one note that Oscar looked at. And he's like, what? And he started saying something. And I was like, wait, what are you reading? And it was this. So can you please read what you picked out of all the notes? We went back three years. And he, you know, looking over the shoulder to like me to see whatever. I think we saw an Oscar note, but then he saw another one that stood out to him. And this is the one note that stood out to him. And there's a lot in there, mind you. There's a lot of crazy things in there. Do you have any guess what it could be? I literally have no idea. It's a poem, I think. Maybe a song, I guess. Just start it. Okay. A black snake hits a standing rock. The snake tries to force its way through. But what the black snake cannot see is a clear stream of water surrounding the rock, keeping it in place. In fact, it is the water that put the rock there to stop the poisonous snake. Do not use force. I hear the water say. Do not spill his black blood and poison my mind again. Fire is a tool in the hands of water. And I am the water snake. Oh, I didn't get to the end. And there's very revealing. The first light, he just started reading. And I was like, what is that from? And I was like, I love this poem. I love, it's a poem. You were right. It's a poem. It's called black snake, black rock, standing water. I know there was a snake for the poem. Our author of the poem is here. Moses Hagman. Would you like to say what the title was? It's water snake. I am the water snake. The water snake. This is always one of my favorite videos of Moses. And I loved it. And I think at the beginning, when we first met, obviously, you guys know I was not nice to most of the very beginning. Because I was kind of mean. And I would be like, oh my god, this is so bad. But I truly love that poem. And then as I got to love you, I was like, oh, I love this poem. So I always wanted to like recreate it. And I always wanted it. And I was like, no, like you're making fun of me. No, but I was like, I truly like loved it. So I was trying to always like recreate it. But then he was always adamant about me. Not to me. You remember the trend where people would have a laptop. And they would do like word for word. Yes. So I like memorized it. I had it on my phone because I love the poem. I like loved it. Our baby Aquaman was going to be water snake. He was this close to being water snake. But Moses, I feel like in the back of your mind, so thought I was like making fun of your poem. But I love this poem. It's my favorite video. Did you ever private it? Are you tupped it up? It's up. It's up. On his original channel channel water, he has the poem. And it's just like him doing almost like spoken word about this. And it's like when you, and it's about something political. Like the water pipe. It was about the keystone. Yeah. Like they were trying to get the oil pipe through the river and all that. Wow. So the water snake is. So there were a lot of artists that were trying to support the cause. And my poem was there to support the poem. Oh, yeah. Really? It was part of something? Yeah. Yeah. We were trying to stop the pipeline going through the water. Did you stop it? I think it was stopped. Great. Mission accomplished. That's great. I love that. I didn't know it was for that. See, that's even an add a layer of beauty to the poem. Yeah, it's like the fight between water and oil and crude oil. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. Everyone went to it. It was viral for a minute. Everyone flooded the water snake. And I loved it. And we almost named our baby water snake because he was a snake. Water snake would have been so cool. It didn't really go with our movie theme. So then we thought of water world. And then we ended up just water man. But it was so it was so crazy. Anyways, so that's my anniversary gift you. My poem. We're reading the water snake on just Trish. What? What are those? It was just in her notes app. We were going through Trish's notes app on Patreon to try to find like the original concept of just Trish. And she was scrolling in there for quite a while. I went through her dream bags. Bill she has to pay, et cetera, and then obviously I was like, oh yeah, one that just had Oscar. I was like, what is she running about me? Then it was just like a new SD card, okay, thanks girl. And then I was so one that just had a black snake, and I was like, what is that? I just didn't fit with the rest of the vibe of Trisha's notes, and I was like, what is that? I mean, maybe so happy, because there's so many flows of that to our relationship so many times at the beginning, I'd be like, oh my god, this is so weird. And I was like, oh wait, this is so good. And then like, stop, stop it. And then I was like, no, I love it. And then now we know it's for a great cause. And you were changing the world, you literally stopped the pipeline from first name. Did you guys go over the names for the podcast when I was going to figure out? Okay, so we know we saw only Trisha, just Trisha, and then Oscar was like, just Trisha sticking out, and then he came back again. I was like, I had a dream about just Trisha, see it as a logo. But we so specifically remember there was more names, but we couldn't remember those names. Because we talked about it. Yeah. And we talked to him on Zoom about it. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember any other names? Because I really wanted it to be Trisha's a talk show. I don't know. Because I wanted to manifest a talk show. And like, this is your talk show. You have a talk show. That was your idea, because that was on one of the notes. Okay, so that was it. Do you remember any of that? Was it all Trisha? Because we thought there was one that didn't have my name in it. Or was it always just Trisha? No, it was, I think some were just like Trish. Like, no, nothing else. And then, yeah, only Trisha's just Trisha's a talk show. Oh, I made the note, because it was written down on Trisha's talk show. So that's so funny. That was the name of this podcast. The Trisha's talk show podcast. I kind of love that too. That's really good. Yeah. I love that it was always Church centric. And Oscar was always out with just Trisha. Because sometimes that's the show where I'm like, should we change the name? It's not just Trisha anymore. But then it's like, you didn't have the vision. Or you said you had a dream about it, really. Yeah. That's the one. I had a premonition, I suppose. Also, it fit the narrative of the time. A folded drum and everything happening with all the previous co-hosts. You're like, you just need just Trisha, you don't need anything else. That's like the real reviews. And I said that in my emails to the being, I literally was just like, I need a solo plot. I cannot have anyone else. So it was like, obviously like not fully solo. But that's like where it was for it. Yeah. And so it was going to be just Trish. Because I was like, I don't have anyone else. Because we did react to a previous co-host of mine. And I was just like, damn. I really was just getting, it's catching strays right in life with the co-hosts. You know what I mean? And I was just like, I really should probably just try something. I don't even think it was a stride. I think it was right at the, it was a death shot, but it's right at the temple. That was crazy to watch back. I know. It was kind of a weird thing. I was like, damn. Okay, this was, yeah. It was weird. I was definitely uncomfortable. And anyways, we found our, we found our stride here. That's been wonderful. Yeah. 314th episode randomly being nostalgic. Is it the 314th? Yeah. Because that's our 314th anniversary. Oh, wait. Yeah, that's our pie tape. Oh, they're wedding, I mean, dating anniversary. Yes. Meeting anniversary. Oh, just meeting. Yeah, our first date was March 14th. Oh. We have a lot of anniversaries. March 14th is the day we first met. August 1st is the day we became boyfriend and girlfriend. December 18th is when we got engaged. December 11th is our wedding anniversary. And what is today? September 22th. September 23rd. 3 is our, now it's our proposal renewal. Oh, sorry. So, so many dates celebrate. And it's been really great. And we are celebrating being tiny in our chunky knit sweaters. Yes, that these are the Emma Chamberlain J-Crew Club, not sponsored, just big fans of Emma Chamberlain I guess. Literally, today, when I was doing Glant, they're like, oh, is this like sponsored? Are you doing like Halloween costumes? Like, no. Oscar's like, oh, we have you seen the new J-Crews. And I was really excited. But people did see this in my TikTok. And like, oh, I remember guys talking about this in Patreon. I can see guys' matches that people are seated. For our matching. So if Isaiah gets here a little early, we should do a little matching. Oh, where? Yeah, we are serving Emma Chamberlain Boots today, for sure. And the wig I thought originally was ice-spice. But then I remembered Emma Chamberlain wore this wig also. It turns a little more salmon, a little lighter with the middle part. And ice-spices was pretty pink to the side. So it was giving more ice-spice than Emma. And in general, I'd give more anything than Emma Chamberlain. But, you know, I like it. I don't like the sweater, but it's not her fault. Honestly, J-Crew is number for me. It's never gonna be a sponsor. But also, it's just like so. It doesn't make me, it feels like, I was saying Oscar, it makes me feel like I'm huge. It makes me feel fatter. It's like, I just feel like I have a lot of fabric. A lot of, like you said, this part is giving us wide stripe at the bottom. Yes, it was a controversial branding campaign because it's literally called the tiny neck. We're not, whatever, I don't even know. But the advertising just says tiny. Which, I guess, us. Triggering. But. Early text messages always was just awesome. You look so skinny, like in our Instagram stories. We're like 22. And then you were like, right before we started shooting, I'm having my boyfriend inject me with ozemic right away. I was like, I mean, yeah. I didn't even know ozemic was around back in June 2023, but there we were. You were on it. Damn. Yeah, but we're tiny. Yes, and wearing tiny crew necks and that's that. What kind of converts are those low or high? Because I'm trying to figure out which ones were comfortable. You didn't answer my survey when I posted on my story. Oh, I didn't even see your survey. Yeah. These are converse, although converse is getting cancelled right now. Oh, who is it getting cancelled? Higher love. Oh, first of all, the higher love. So anyway, these have been purchased maybe four years ago. So I was not swayed by the bad. I think higher love. High, I think, right? Let me see. Pull up your pen. Okay, they're platform. They're like platform high. It was this part I was trying to figure out this high. I can help you. Yeah, I can help you. It's okay. But why are they? Do we need to know why or does it matter? Some, their advertisement had some kind of racist imagery and I didn't, I just saw one TikTok on it. So I'm not the most educated, but who, I don't know if it was ever figured out, like, was a subliminal message, was it on purpose? It seemed kind of like in your face, not, you know? Really? Yeah. So I think it was a big oversight, but yeah. I mean, how did the big companies have oversight? Like, it's, you're, you're a huge company. You know, how many people it takes to approve anything. Yeah. That's why I'm like, hmm, yeah, but I mean, the accident happened for sure. I would hope it's an accident because I, I, it wasn't an accident for somebody there. Somebody was intentional there. I bet it's maybe. I don't know what the, the thing was, but I mean, the photoshoot, the, the converse, they had a photoshoot and then the photoshoot, they just looked like, the point of the star created like a white, okay, okay, kind of like figure. Oh. So the person was holding the shoes, so the shoes looked like they were hanging. Oh, oh, oh my god. So it looks like feet hanging, so anyway, it's just the, the placement of everything, just the worst placement of everything is, okay, that's, that's bad. No, for the Asian. Yeah. All that. Maybe I will not get my high top converse. Your timing is crazy. Oh my god. Oh my god. I know. I think. I think I could take a shit. I'm not loving it. Like a couple of weeks ago, when Dan was filming Wednesday, she was saying how she was just getting in that chair, and how she like loves that chair, she had to cut all of it. I guess it's this happened. She's like, what was he thinking? I had to cut all of it. And I was like, yeah. Same with me though. It's like, I think we talked about Monday, like, clavicular, making like the publicity round. Yeah. I'm like, well, you know, maybe he's trying to rebrand. He seems nice. He seems like he's trying to do better. And then literally just like, convicted that night. That night. Is it my hot topics? Like I said. Every week you either get the rest. Or get over it. I get a subsurface. That was crazy. I was, I don't know why you were not more gay. I was like, oh my god. No, he's actually like charged, right? Like he's actually like, he's facing, clavicular is facing criminal charges that stem from a civil lawsuit. We talked about it a few months ago, there, which I honestly forgot this happened. Right. That's just how the new cycle is, I guess. But there was a civil lawsuit where a girl alleged that she was given alcohol when she was a minor on stream with him and that he also was like injecting her with drugs allegedly to look smack her face on also on stream and other claims. And then now there's, he's facing a criminal complaint and a criminal charges that he ripped her and gave her a subsistence when she was a minor. Yeah. I mean, those look really serious. They're very serious. Yeah. Yeah. So I think I would assume his LA press store is halted after the charges became public. I wouldn't be so bad. Yeah. But also, I feel like we need to take away the fact that like everyone wants to credit him with like the maxing and it's like, it's just, I love saying we were like beverage maxed yesterday. Like I love beverage maxing. I love like all this. I was like, it's not his word. And I want to like take away that because like, it is cool and it's like, we are maxing everything. We're doing everything maxing, the end clique maxing and it's like, he didn't come up with that. So I don't think we would take away that because it's still a cool word. Yeah. T. And it doesn't have to have a clavicular. He's not looks maxing. He did the opposite. He looks. Jail maxing. There you go. Jail maxing. He did. We tried it. Did we talk about like pinpointing the exact moment when someone's career fault? Did we talk about that? Yes. Yes. And I think the clavicular, we were talking about this coming back from boiling crap. I think the moment that clavicular fell was because I was like, why is he doing press? And you were like, maybe just to be relevant again because like, he's not talked about as much as he was used to him. And I think it was like, the surgery is right because like, I know his joke. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because you're not looks maxing. You like did the opposite. You're like, are you okay? Yeah. What happened to, you know? Yeah. So it's like very, very of that. So he kind of is the downfall was quick. Just like a little booboo. It was here. - Yes, you're so right. - I think the approval lasted longer. - Yeah, less problematic. (laughing) - Better than that. - I know Oscar was in the middle of a parking lot trying to do the boo-boo exchanges off Facebook. - Oh, yeah, that's true. - That's true. - Thank you so much to Chime for sponsoring this episode of Jess Trish. Everyone hates bank fees, am I right? I know I do. I've always struggled with my finances in my early 20s, late teens, even my early 30s. And one of the main reasons, sometimes it wasn't even 'cause I couldn't pay the bills. It was because I was getting late fees. I was getting overdraft charges, and I was like, this is sometimes I was getting feed because I didn't have enough money in that account. And I was like, what? The bank just don't want us to win. Well, that's where Chime comes in. Chime is changing the way people bank. They're not traditional old banks who charge fees and gatekeep perks and rewards. Chime offers the most rewarding fee-free banking all with no overdraft fees, no monthly fees, and no minimum balance fees. 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No minimum balance required, checking account ranking based on the JD Power Survey published October 20, 2025. For more information on APY rates, my pay, spot me, and travel perks go to chime.com/disclosure. - 'Cause you know, I love memory lane. You know, I love nostalgia more than anything. I'm always anymore. It's like old pictures from like, when Malibu was born and looked at the scene. So we were doing that, too. And I was like, we were talking about the barbed-in-heimer. And like, I wasn't familiar with Oppenheimer. Obviously, you were not either 'cause we just thought, and I was like, and then we looked back at the orderly tax messages. And I sent a poster back up barbed-in-heimer and I was like, I must have just Googled it and been like, love this. I didn't even know Killian Murphy was in that. - Yes. - 'Cause I see his son now, and then I just see memes of him looking annoyed and everything. And I was like, oh, he wasn't. Why would people see that movie? Like, he just looks annoyed in every interview he ever does. - Killian Murphy looks annoying. - Like Margot Robbie's giving when she's doing Barbie. - Oh, I see. - She's like, I'm Barbie. And the Oppenheimer press interview is he's just like-- - One of those serious stuffy actors, I guess. People do love a Killian Murphy, though. - No, they like love my whole FYP is Killian Murphy. And again, it was a girl looking annoyed. It would be like, oh, she's like the worst. - Well, yes, yeah. - He's constantly pissed. He's constantly ignoring like the co-star next to him. He's constantly like dazing off. Like, he's just, reporters are asking questions like, I don't know, like, he's giving nothing. And be like, love this. Killian Murphy's so silly. And then if it's like a girl, it's like Dakota Johnson's like, what a bitch. She's like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just, it is crazy. The double standards of this world. - Yeah, for this world. - I guess I like Killian Murphy, though. He seems kind of funny, actually. - I don't know if I've actually seen Killian Murphy in anything. - The Rachel McAdams plane movie, maybe. That's when I saw it, 'cause she was big at the time. She had just done Mean Girls. I don't know, maybe you wouldn't have seen that. - Killian Murphy. - You see, I think his name. - I do like the name Killian, I think that's a good name. Oh, what? The one thing I saw meant the Taylor Swift Opalite Music video, okay. - He was? Is he sorry? - He had a little role in that. Because they were all on the, gosh. What is the British talk show? The Grand Norton show? - Oh yes. - And then she just invited everyone who was on the couch with her to be in the music video. - He was at the right place with her. And he did it, I guess. - And he did it. - And it. - She said it's more, yeah. - Oh, he was in The Dark Knight, the Batman movie, the Christopher Nolan one. - Which one, who would he play? - He was in Batman begins and another video. Who's the Batman? - He was scarecrow in The Dark Knight. - What? - Never heard of that. - And Batman begins, okay. - Who was the Batman? - Christian Bale was Batman. - Oh, it's a long time ago. - Yeah, yeah. So that's the only thing I've seen. Opalite in Batman. Sounds about right? (laughing) - Okay, and I'm like, and not obni, really, we're dressed up on Batman. - No, I never saw an openheimer. No, no, just the barb, part of barb in Heimer for me, yeah. But I was speaking to Taylor Swift, there is only one pop girl who's going against her, and I think that is so funny. - Who? - Trisha Banks. (laughing) - Why? - No, maybe it. - They were like, so is she so brave. - Literally. - Why? What did I do? - Also, last week, every single artist, like there were maybe like over 20 artists who all released their projects last week. And a lot of people were speculating like who could possibly be releasing the week of the weekend of the 25th, that has made all these artists push to release early. And, 'cause it was like Miley Cyrus, Rosé, like everyone was releasing early. - I didn't know. - Clearly, and then Taylor announced that she's releasing a new single and the life of a show girl on Core Edition. - When? - It comes out on Friday, the evening of the 25th slash the 26th, right? - Yeah. - All right, me and Taylor, who is going, who's getting in. - So every artist, move their release, see? And then, yes. - Damn. - I love the 25th, yeah. So every artist who push the release, say to the week before, and then I see you start promoting your song. And then I'm like, oh, the release date is the 25th. So the only two pop girls releasing will be Taylor, for sure, for sure, for sure. - All right, girl, it's fun. Let's look at those charts. I'm coming for you. Yes, we are releasing, it's literally me, I can like, I'm gonna pick a label or something. I am releasing Pontchop Step. Originally, we were supposed to come out today, which is the 23rd. - Yeah. - It's 23rd. But I'm on, I have a segment on America's Got Talent tonight. So I thought, well, they let the post-socials, I don't want to cloud my feed, like if I post my video, 'cause I spent a lot of time and money on this video, I'm very proud of it. - Then I was gonna push it to Friday. I mean, it was to me, I didn't know Taylor, so. So it was supposed to be Friday, 'cause, oh, 'cause the podcast comes out Thursday. This comes out Thursday. Oh, by the way, if you're watching this, the music video will premiere right after this episode. That's how, 'cause I was gonna be in the chat for this premiere, 'cause Thursdays are kinda like a slower day for me. My daughter has dance class and I do plotties, whatever. So I have that chunk of time to be in the thing. So I was like, and we have a guest. We have a star of my music video coming today. Kevin Woo, which I'm very excited about. Weirdly you dress as Mystery Saga last year. - Oh, yes. - And that is Kevin Woo. - Yeah. - Yeah, he was in, he's been a K-pop idol. He was second generation K-pop idol in U-Kist, and he was in another band before that, or another group before that. And so he's been like a K-pop idol for like, I think from the age of 14 to like 27. So he's been around for a while, and then he got to be Mystery Saga in K-pop even hunters, which is, my girls were so excited. He is saying to them. He thinks so to pop to them. The, I wish I was recording the minute they met, 'cause as soon as Matt who was in the, was at the Meary. - She came with a pink wig. - Yeah, I think that's Meary. Her pink wig, and then she had the K-pop even hunter sword. It was so cute. Oh my god, Jimmy reminded me to give me B-roll, 'cause we're so cute. We're so cute with the sword, 'cause I told her that Asaja Boy was gonna be there, and she was really excited. And you know, obviously, she's watched the K-pop even hunters, and she doesn't seem like the live singers. So, but she like, he, but he was wearing pink, and Mystery Saga has like purple, and y'all, so anyways. So I think she like went up, and she was like excited. Obviously the music video and all that, something like that, but then he started saying, ♪ So refreshing my little soda pop ♪ And she melted. - Oh my god. - She was like, oh my gosh. And I think in that moment, she like heard it, and his voice was like Angelic and Beautiful, and it was like so cute. And we filmed at the Koreatown Plaza. Well, when he gets here, we're talking more about it, but yeah, they had Mystery, they had all Asaja Boy cards, and then Mystery Saga, like cars, and he like signed them, not only for my girls, but Ari's daughter, Tony's like Nises, and he was so sweet, and he was so nice. So it was great. So he's coming later on, but yes. PondjaXep is my new K-pop song, and I'm very excited about it. And yes, it releases right after this podcast. So go into that live chat, and see it, let's see if we can be Taylor Swift. Let's see if we can get. How do we know who's winning? How do we like track it? - I guess we'll see on in the chart. - In the chart. - In the chart. - Is she gonna be overall? Is she gonna be Country Pop? - K-pop. - What's going on? - K-pop. - Happy number one K-pop. - Is she blockchain and K-pop? - Golden will still be number one K-pop, I'm sure. What is she? - I think just pop. - Yeah. - So I think we can be with her in the overall chart. - Oh yeah, so the overall and then pop. We'll see, last time I got kind of high, I was 25 or something in overall, right? - Really high. - I feel like I was getting high in the overalls. - I think it was 10. - Granted for like 10 hours, but I was there for a minute, which was very exciting. 10? So maybe Taylor. - K-pop was two, right? And then. - Who else will be up there with us, me, Taylor? - Ella Langley and Stella Lefty. - You laugh because they sound the same, right? Like do you know the difference? - No. - Exactly. Like what, what does even happen? Every time you say those names, I'm like, what? Ed Sheeran probably won't be up there. - I don't think so. I think Ella Langley, she officially beat Mariah Carey's record with Choosing Texas, the longest number one running song of all time. - I don't even know that song, sing a little bit. - Choosing Texas, I can tell. - That's all I know, baby. I apologize. I had the song comes on at the gym sometimes. My trainer, shout out Alicia. She was like, I like Ella and I was like, okay. - Okay. I didn't contribute much to the conversation. There's a clip of Doja Cat. She did a podcast and she got asked about Ella Langley and she said, what is Ella Langley? And then she had to go on Switch and then react. She did the part where she just like watched the video for the first time Choosing Texas. And she went, she has a beautiful voice just not for me. And then, and that's kind of my T2. She's a beautiful voice. She's a beautiful, beautiful gown. - Yeah. - Beautiful bangs, she has, you know, bangs. [BLANK_AUDIO] - I like her vibe, but it's not for me. - That's what I feel with Megan Moroni. I feel like I should like her. Actually, I don't know any of her songs, but I like her pink aesthetic, but it just gives country right away. And I'm just like, I don't know. - Yeah. - But maybe I should get into it. - Megan Moroni is a little bit country pop. Like, she is a little Taylor Swifties. - A little Taylor Swiftie from early on, early eras, and I was gonna say like Kelsey Ballerini, but I doubt you know what Kelsey Ballerini song. - I don't, but she looks cute too. I think these girls definitely look cute. - And I feel like I should like them, but you don't know anything. - It's crazy, just like, it's like, I only really hear this song at the gym when it comes on the whatever playlist. I guess I just don't listen to radio. So I live in a very secular gay pop girl world where like Nicole Kim and from Adela is number one at the Oscar charts, you know what I'm saying? - You're right, right, right. What's that number one everywhere? I really do hear that song everywhere. I was like, kind of love that song. Are you going to download and stream Patrick's set? - Yes, of course. - Have you heard it already? - Only the snippet from when we made TikToks. - Oh, that's one more. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It did get out early Moses is, Moses is my cyber security. He's like, I think this leaked. It was on YouTube and I didn't even mention it 'cause I just uploaded it like earlier. 'Cause again, it was supposed to come out today and you had saw that, you saw it quick. You saw it within like an hour of someone posting it on YouTube. Not someone. - Yeah, 'cause I was like, wait, it's not the music video. - You just have the title, yeah. - So that somebody got a hold of yours. You know, the sound, they're uploading it. It's the music video. He's like, someone leaked this. I was like, who's going to get it? I'm the only one. Me and Jaime are exactly like he's working with the biggest bowl. - Yeah, but I need the video so I can download to my phone 'cause the kids always ask to watch it. - Oh, I know it's a hit. I know it's a hit because truly, okay, they did loves that on hit and they do listen to it all the time in the car. But this one, we watched the music video and they want to rewatch it literally like a dozen times and I love rewatching videos. I think five is my max a night. I'm like, okay, we really need to watch something else 'cause it's five in a row. And then my dad comes over like, show the video, show the video. They do have a little cameo in it too. So that's not why, 'cause they weren't holiday barbie and they don't really care to watch that one. So they love, they always, my songs have always said that. You'll see, actually didn't give me B-roll too. Elvis and Malboot, specifically Elvis, really gets down to this song. She does really fast dancing. She was in kind of a mood when she got there and then as soon as the song came on, she was fast dancing. - When we filmed the music video, it was like probably the hardest day in LA and we got there. And then Elvis, you know, she's two. She's in that emotional state. So you walk into a mall. - It was hard to make. - Elvis and I, yeah. - You don't know anyone, you don't know everything. So she was just like, not having it. So then we just went to the car to chill for like 30 minutes, say the cookie, a little juice. And then we went back to the mall and we just like hanging out in coffee shop. The owner of the mall literally would come to us. I didn't know who it was at that moment. He would come to us, give them cookies, give them drinks and things. - No, everywhere that worked that mall, like we're so nice, especially to the kids. They were like so nice. They were like do they want cake pops, they want this. They were bringing me matches like just all the time. Like it was very nice. And I was like, oh, like in between shot, it was very, very nice. - And then we, so then we went down the elevator. The minute we walked out, there was a store, toy store. All the stuff they love, right? So we got some toys. So they had shopping bags. - In the video. - And then we walk and we walk straight into the scene. That's the scene that we were filming. So Malibu and Elvis is standing there like with their shopping bags like they're in the mall, watching, that's in the video you'll see. They're watching them dance. But the minute Elvis was queued into, she just like immediately just walked in and started dancing. - We have like a five minute clip of her. - And there's like how many dancers you had? - Like 10, eight. - So like all 10 dancers are around her and she's just like, I'm one of you and she was dancing. - Even when Kevin came into dance at the end, she's Malibu kind of sat out for a minute. I think she got like shy and then she was just like. - Queue the music. - Cutting her off. Yeah, she was having a great time. It was really, really great. Yeah, so I think this is a, I think it's a banker. I think for sure. We're still working on getting our music on Melon. I don't, I just texted Alex this morning and I'm like, have we get it over there? And I feel like he would know. So hopefully if you are watching in Korea, (laughs) what did they do actually? What did they say? Oh, they said it already here. So yeah, so I don't know what the outcome is 'cause we're filming this Wednesday but the America's Got Talent finalist come here, who are from Korea. It's like a dance group. They actually knew, said, okay. When they came up, they're like, "Sat down, guys, so I love them. Just shout out everyone that did America's Got Talent but yes, they knew. So they must be able to see it somehow. I don't know, I'm not on Melon yet but maybe they saw the YouTube video or TikTok or I don't know, but shout out everyone there. But yes, all right. Well, I'm very excited. I except the challenge going against that. I did see your comment. I didn't know what that meant. But I was like, okay. Maybe the outfit. Maybe something is reminding you the bangs. (laughs) So you're like, oh, come on guys. Are you, what is the song do you know, Taylor? It's called Patient Zero. And I guess what we shall see. We shall see. I saw a lyric leak, an alleged lyric leak. Maybe it leaked the same way yours leaked. (laughs) Yeah, I'm sorry. (laughs) And allegedly, apparently the song is the vibe of like, girl, if you're falling for a man, your situation is treating you wrong. I've been there too. I've been patient zero, but look at me now. That kind of tease, like. Okay. Which, you know, I can get into. I can get into. Oh, you already have anything. That's for sure, I will. And I'm already like mentally repairing 'cause it's always gonna be some discourse. I already saw, I saw one take that was like, she's co-opting Patient Zero, which is what people referred to anyone who, right. On the right track, they were like, the people who contracted A's during the A's, the A's crisis were called Patient Zero, but I'm like, okay. I mean, that's kind of true. But everyone was like, it clocks something in the brain. I was like, wait, what was that? Well, for every sci-fi movie, that's Patient Zero, like of someone. People A's is a real thing that happens. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. That was pain. Although the bear is like a Bailey and a predator, like A's is like a real Patient Zero. Who is Patient? I guess we don't need to know. We don't need to disclose that. That's fine. And who cares it was, right? Damn, why are people looking for someone or they just want to know where it originated? I guess they're not trying to blame that person. They're just, where do we originate? I guess. Isn't their Patient Zero and Wand one? I mean, or, I don't know, how did the, I don't know. Doesn't matter, I guess. Wander control now, which is great. And you can. And I think it just, become a figure of speech, you know, like. Oh, you're depending. Oh, yes. I was just trying to defend AIDS. It's okay. You can, you can live with medication before it gets into full blown AIDS. Very bad. Yes, yes. Yeah. Seriously, I'm trying to do a PSA for A and then you're doing a PSA for Taylor Swift, so. I don't know, but I guess they're both fine. We both of them alone. (laughing) That is kind of a crazy name. That is kind of a crazy name for a song, but. I don't think it's that crazy, but we're. I think 'cause Taylor Swift is so just like, a whole sum and mainstream, like, it's just kind of a crazy. It's not crazy or so controversial. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I think it's all perfectly fine, and. But everyone's going to have something to say. If you're an anti-tailor fan, you're going to find something and that's okay. I've had peace with it. 'Cause even me, I get it too. Whenever someone tries to moralize their dislike for me, they go, and he pretends to be all moral, but he supports Taylor Swift. I'm like, put me on the cross. I don't know. The songs are good. Okay. He also supports me, so I don't know what one's the worst. The moral ground is not Taylor Swift, but. (laughing) We'll take it. Oh my god. Yeah, you support Taylor Swift, right? I think, my god, give a gay a break. Yeah, give a gay a break. That's just a real national give a gay a break day today. 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Everyone has their rough nights, rough patches, rough releases. Last night was dancing with the stars, and everyone had a very rough night. Did you watch? I watched the performances. Yes. Oh, OK. Yes, yes, yes. Bad, right? Everybody? Yeah, I mean, a lot of-- it was rough for a lot of people, right? I kind of like that, though, because, I don't know, a humanized them a little bit. You want to see-- I think what happened was everyone was like, oh, we love to see people grow on the show. So I think everyone tried to regress, so they can start growing. They're like, OK, let's be bad. And then we're going to wow them next week. But the problem is, is like, yeah. But then you could be going home, so maybe step it up. The only of the front runner, I guess, is Ezra, the Paralympian. Ezra Fretch. Yeah, not Ezra. With Julius Styles, yes. Ezra Fretch, who I didn't really know much about him. And after hearing it, like, I have to edit their interviews and watch all their interviews. So hearing him talk I was like He's actually so sweet and charismatic. Yes. We really love him. He was really great last night. Yeah. Actually he did Slay. Yeah, I think everyone else like Not that exciting. I like Mora Higgins. I really like her. Okay. Yeah. I think she's kind of giving front runner Wow, I think so. I think so. I mean at least top four like when I say front runner I think like top four Yeah, I don't remember the dance. So I don't know Who else? I like Sierra Miller. I don't know how far she's gonna go, but I like her a lot Sierra Miller too. Mm-hmm. Yeah Connerwood I also had to edit his interviews a lot and he's kind of growing on me. I'm like wait I can't see the video. You owe him another apology. Oh for what? Uh-oh Connerwood is not married to Brooke. Oh, is he gay? Oh, they're just They're just friends. Oh, they're just friends. Yeah, like co-workers. Oh Wait, what when do we talk about this? I thought that he has a podcast with her. I thought they were a couple podcast No, so anyway. I want to work. Correct. Yeah So they're not together. Okay. They don't play about everyone Was being like what is this when Riley Arnold and Connerwood they had like a very Close face thing at the end of their dance and I was like y'all are doing too much like he's he's married I thought she I like she's got her boyfriend like y'all they're just acting now. I'm like oh wait if he's single Then what's the TV partner Riley Arnold's isn't she pregnant or she's married. No, that's Whitney married Whitney car Is she married she has a boy? She has a either a boyfriend. Maybe if you don't say Riley Arnold. Yes, they the younger hairy jobs He's for her partner. Oh But I know for sure and he plays like a sport like he plays it like a hoff some kind of where I want him to say what Got it. Okay, um, but yeah, so I was like Oh, there's nothing there because He's married and she's got her man, but now I'm like Well, who knows now look at a little bit different. Well, that's how you Fall in love. I think that's why they don't have like glove and stuff back or even Sasha who I love Sasha Barbara But it's like they end up always dating their partners and it's like I think we're kind of over that part of this show is Falling lovely partner. Yeah, especially if you're married a lot of married ones were falling in love and it was like what the hell is happening? I'm dancing with this and Riley and all I mean no shade, but the Riley every time whatever Conner says in the interview She is cracking she's giggling. She is like. It's like he whatever he says is the funniest thing in the world. I'm scared Okay, I tried to write the Arnold, but I'm just I would be a little scared about he's doing all the time So she should be able to a funny guy like a funny boy. Yeah, he's giving funny He's giving you and charming and I do follow him. So I don't think he falls Love he's got my vote Conwood Fibula. We love you Yesterday we're talking about Halloween Okay, sports. That's what reminded me of and Tana's like trying to think of like a parody of Sydney Swoony sports Which is like I don't know I can't think of like a good one. She was trying and that's like maybe Oscar I had that I had that question for you then I asked about the question if we dress as Tana and Trish What is an iconic Tana? Because I'm like, uh Oscar's pretty good into your lore So like I the only like costume I think of when I think of Tana is the team Bryce on God But like is there a more iconic Tana look the one that's iconic to me I might be alone in this But is her Neon Billie Eilish era Is that a streamies that is so funny so I tied so I literally sat oh my god It's so funny later yesterday because I was like I really went home and like sat on it And I thought about it because that's like I really need to do and then yes Because she like she said that's her most hated look, but I like I said I said let me make sure I'm not showing anything Oh, yeah, I said this is kind of camp. Are you kidding me? Yes, I think I think of Tana for some reason that is in my head I don't know why it's classic Tana with the little glasses big lashes blonde hair Okay, I think I want to be that it says TM on it. You should have the custom that's fear Like a custom Gucci and it is is that was it's based on Billie Eilish Is that what it is? Yeah, she that was when she was a big Billy stan and she was you know playing in her purse quite a bit But it's so funny. Okay, so that's a good one because I was trying to think of like a Tana look. Okay. That's that's a great one Yeah, that one comes to mind The fiercest. I'm trying to remember what she wore like I got Tana Con and stuff, but get seated You can't remember and you were there. Yeah, Tt. We're almost there All right, that could be a good one. I was trying to think we have our Halloween costume But I think we have too many Halloween costumes because now I was like I was only trying to do that last week And now it's like it's really the last like two and a half weeks. I have Halloween costumes too many Yeah, I got a lock in I got a lock in I really need to be like next week is October That's scary That's insane. Yeah, and then gay Halloween like if you don't have your costume figured out end of July like you're late Like for gays we all got to be locked in you can't be showing up on October 31st Figuring out that morning what the hell are you gonna wear? Like you really need to get it together like you need to be ready. Are you couple of costumes being this year? I think so well This is very Trishian in the in the sense that I came up with the idea and I'm trying to make Darian do it But my couple's costume is professor Xavier and Magneto. Did you do this already? No, you're I was a bald guy last year So you're so same thing similar concept I want Darian to be the bald the professor Xavier and then also I want him to be in the wheelchair And then it became a whole this course like is it problematic for him to be in the wheelchair? Yeah, I don't want to have that my digital footprint. I'm like yeah, I'm gonna get the wheelchair You're gonna say no Sorry, it's a costume. It's a costume. Get in the damn wheelchair. Sit your ass down. You can really walk You can really walk but sit your ass in that wheelchair. Why can't he just be standing as a man doesn't why he's purple that he can I know I feel like you could stand no he can't he can't he's got to sit his ass down in the wheelchair A hundred percent. Okay, but he doesn't want to he doesn't want to be bald or being the wheelchair But somehow you love just bald last year so that that ruins you loving bald Hannah keeps trying to make us bald too She wants to be Steve Jobs and I was like, okay And I just see you can be I just see she can be Steve Jobs. Great one. She had a matching black shirt on like something We should be bald Steve Jobs. She always wants to be bald. She wants to be Dr. Phil She wants to be another bald person and opinions No, and now I was like all know to this one can we just not be something ugly? But she loves to have a little bald movie because I really the same because I have to give the same advice the same All of it. It's too funny So are you gonna pivot? No, I'm gonna figure out a way to make this happen I Have a really good one for me and Moses and I'm really excited. I'm gonna say the problem is like not the problem, but it's like oh We don't need to do a couple costumes. We're not going anywhere But it's his birthday like three days before Halloween and that's my birthday post every year. It's like us in a costume. Oh team. So Granted, he doesn't ever get the same, but do you have an idea you can pick a couple's costume this year? Do you want to pick one because I did I guess I could let you pick Well, I did the Peter Pan and oh Yeah, I'm both a name baby Tony, baby Tony Really want me that all right fine? We can do that So you want to be Peter Pan too because you're already being captured up. You're being a lot of people in this year So we kept him with the family costume and then for the couple's costume when you Peter Pan and Tony and then we'll photoshop you as Tony to the family She's talking Where what's the Tony starter pack like what am I what am I dressed as how what am I wearing she got always dresses She like Disney bounds a lot more the way so there's her here. Yeah No, no we don't we end that's your birthday post you as your pan and me as Tony I would love to see you as Peter Pan actually that be a great like an obsession the movie spin on Peter Pan and baby Tony so like yeah, it's some kind of crossover because obsession everyone's gonna do that But I think if you do maybe Tony version of obsession that's fear of doing like a full movie like a little trailer I wasn't thinking all that but sure I'm singing the photo, but yeah, I know because I went tan and she's like okay We're gonna be tan and trash shows. Okay, so I'll spend the day with the kids and you can go be with McCau I was like oh my god I'm doing a whole video I guess when she has Kyle who's like her full-time content creators like we're gonna just do videos of everything That sounds like a lot of work But sure why not and then she's like I'll take his most of the menu All the things I was like yeah, that actually would kind of eat. Oh Well, we can do the new I can be Nate and Fielder and you'll be Elizabeth Holmes That's the couple's past you I mean they're kind of yeah from the new movie Where could be Chris? That movie is really 24 movies Chris Hansen Nathan Fielder Predator it's crazy That would be a good one actually Chris Hansen and then like alien versus predator predator with like the big thing that actually kind of a good one That's a great one actually Okay, maybe I mean that trailer to the movie came out and you're into it. It looks like it's gonna be an interesting movie. Each week was great I love them. It's a man like suddenly they just talk for them every good movie that's out there is them In the last couple of years. I am I have a close-percent relationship That has to be the like here's the trend. I'm doing I'm gonna do a trend for a primetime Yeah, we love we love rubber pot and sin is Do you see the one where he did with it? Who's the other co-star that was Jimmy? Skylar Marches gemstones. Yes, it begins with the G. He's everywhere. Do you see their promo for it? Yes, they did they started doing some interviews for it where they're like go see primetime. I'll like oh see you Skylar just get zoned out just on though cuz it's not a lot of press for it, but it's coming out this weekend. Yeah, and I'm having to see it. I can see it - We don't have tickets yet, but I think we will. Daryen really wanted to see it as well. - It's in limited theaters, like the one near us doesn't have it, so we have to travel in a ways. - I haven't even checked, but I do want to see it, actually. - I do, I really want to see. I don't know how we're having time, but I really want to see it this weekend. They need like a little place, like a little daycare inside the movie, the actual theater. - That's actually a good idea. - You know? - But not like the gym, they have a daycare at the gym, but like our gym's two stories, and it's only on the top floor as the gym, and then the bottom floor is just the daycare. And I'm like, I don't trust, you know what I mean? Like how does the kids not crawl out of the daycare on the first floor? - There's some of these watching them, but still. - Yeah. - Okay, one person to like a bunch of little kids. - They probably stand at the door. - I like the idea of it, 'cause like obviously, yeah, it's cool like to bring kids, you know, and then you go work out. I'm talking about a movie theater where it's like you sit in the movie and the kids can just be like in a soundproof area that you can see. - Yeah, and they're playing. - Like a little fish tank, you can just see that. - Yes, yes. - And they're probably not for prime time though, I guess. (laughing) - I think prime time is probably the one movie we can stream and watch at home, and it won't be that. - No, but you can't stream now, if you want to talk about it on Monday. - Oh, well, they should send us early. - Well, you know what, they invited us to order the screen tonight, but I thought we had other plans tonight, and then I said no, and now the tickets are released, and I'm like, damn it! I'm so annoyed, we could have gone tonight. With the director. But sometimes they send links that you can watch it for reviewing purposes. - They did that for the moment, maybe they could send me one. 'Cause I'm pressed. - Exactly, you're a journalist. We already established you have a YouTube channel, you're a journalist. - Period, that's right. All right, oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Yeah, I, you really actually want to see the Nathan Field movie, you're just saying that. - I do, but again, it's one of those movies that you don't have to watch in the theater. You know, like there's movies that you want to see in the big screen, the sound. I don't think this one is a surround sound. - Someone saw him on the street and asked him for a picture, and he said maybe next time. I was like, that person's not going to run into you again. That's why they want to take a picture with you now. - No, but that's why he's giving them like, you know, if the proper, if we meet again, it means we should take a picture. - Quentin Tarantino and people to ask him for a picture, he'd say, "How about a handshake?" And I was like, "Well, they wanted a picture." He didn't say that to me. I didn't get a picture with Quentin Tarantino, but he would say that to people who wanted a picture with him. - And then he goes for the fit, or does he? - Well, they were men, I don't know. I didn't get that far, I don't, maybe, I don't know. - The unwell allegations, I know we're both interested about that, with unwell allegedly stealing a whole podcast, concept, title, merch, et cetera. - Is that allegedly, if you did? - It's still a legend because it hasn't been proven in the court of law. So you gotta have to say that. - Okay, but here's the thing, right? It's like, if I wear this, and I never say anything, then someone's like, "Oh, you stole Amateur Chamberlain's look." Do you have to say allegedly? It's like, "Well, no, clearly I did." - No, allegedly 'cause we don't have to find a friend of whatever contracts people suddenly would say. - No, but like, "Oh, I see." Okay, so you're saying, it could just very well people have the same concept. - Yeah. - Like a gossip podcast. - It could be, yes, it could be a very slim chance mind you, yes, but even if there's that very slim chance, it's still a possibility. - It's a brand new podcast about history is just gossip, but there is a podcast that already exists like this two years, right? I guess we will say there's lots of things out there. So, is that podcast big? I don't know, 'cause I know-- - I'm confused, maybe we'll explain what happened. Did they steal a design or did they steal from one of their creators? - Yes, so unwell announced that they will be launching a new podcast called Petty Coat Revolution, and it's described as a show where history needs girl talk. And this concept slash program already exists. And it is a top charting history podcast, and it's the podcast called Right Answers Mostly. And that is also their concept. It's two girls talking about history in like, as if it's like gossip. And they have similar merch taglines and everything. - How do you tell about history as if it's gossip? - I imagine us talking about drama getting, but talking about the French Revolution. Like, "Marie Antoinette is Jeffrey Star." - Oh, like that. - Bitch, "Marie Antoinette." Like that, she ate all the cake. - I was stealing, that's what it is. - Yeah, yeah. - That whore couldn't keep her legs shut. And then Hamilton came by that little orphan, and he, is that like that kind of vibe? - I'm kind of, maybe that kind of vibe. Maybe I'm just kidding. - It does seem very specific. I feel like-- - Right, 'cause even in history, there's a lot of things of people cheating and doing things, you know, like-- - Oh, right, there is like scandal. - I mean, Lemon, while the original gossip history, because like, Hamilton is kind of gossipy, so I mean, really, he kind of is the original. Let's say, did it before him, in which case, we should also put Lune Monroe and Miranda in this conversation, 'cause he also did that. Did you, it's so funny when, early on in our text messages, me and Oscar, from 2022, before the podcast even started, he's like, "Next time you do mukbangs, you should talk about a true crime story." Well, he, I was like, "Okay, Stephanie-" - I know, literally, I think our justice coverage Stephanie Sue was like, "Oh, you should do that." (laughing) - I love the advice you were giving me. That was probably good advice. - I don't know how good. - In retrospect, that was like, I just discovered true crime, like as a genre. This was like, 2022 maybe. - Yeah. - And then, obviously, now knowing you more, the concept of you covering true crime is a little scary. - While you're eating, yes. - Got Madonna, talking about Lizzie Borden. Was she a lesbian? Who was her girlfriend purple hair? (laughing) - Like, that was a little scary. - But you didn't know, you met, well, you're trying to help me grow. - You weren't doing much at the time, I was not doing it. - I was not doing it. - Maybe try this. - Literally anything. I was doing ASMR and being funny. - But that just shows you how those things happen. If the unwell network's sitting, and they're like, "Okay, what new shows we want to launch?" Let's see what's trending to girls talking about. - Yeah, is that even illegal to do? I'm not defending them first of all. - It's only, that's everywhere. That's just how it works. - So you can just-- - If there's a show that proves itself to be successful, you should do the same show. - It's copy it. - It gets a little dicey. I think with them, it's super specific, I guess, 'cause like muck banging and true crimes, like a genre, so that ended up itself, I guess, isn't specific. This is like, even their tag lines, like, okay, so the unwell show, their tag line is, it's not gossip, it's history, and then the tag line for wrong answers only, is history is just gossip. So they're like, it's so similar, and also it's like two girls. The creative is very similar, as far as the photo shoots and everything. - And they took down the merch, right? Unwell took down the merch. - Yeah, so when Unwell announced this new podcast, Petty Coat Revolution, in the photo dump was pictures of the girls weighing the merch, the t-shirts, and once, right answer, you said the wrong title, right answers mostly, not wrong answers mostly, but once they were in the comments and being like, hello, they ended up editing the photo dump and took out the merch, which also makes you like, mix it up. - We always say, can't delete, and then you look, you're guilty, once you delete, you're guilty and, yeah. Well, you might be, that does sound, yeah. I mean, I guess, yeah. I guess like, that was doing a tag line. You remember our tag line? - It's original, it's just fresh. - No, the one we discovered in our texts. - Skinny Legends? - Skinny Legends only. - Oh, you see the legend only, yeah. - I think it's a great tag line, I love it. And someone, did I say it, you said, someone's like, it's not that problematic, I think it's okay. - I think I, if you are brain, put it in the beginning. - So there you have a tag line, there you had merch, which is like, you already have merch for a podcast. - Wait, when you put it that way, that is not, right? - Right, like, how do you already have a tag line? How do you already have merch? Like, we don't even know these people, or do we know them? - No, I think that's what happens when it's from the top down. Like, it's not something that organically grew. - They put together. - Like, oh, we should do merch. - Yeah. - They put the whole package together. It's gonna be successful. We're gonna push it, we're gonna make marketing. This is the tag lines. So, but there is the possibility that they hire somebody. - Right. - And they stole, or were inspired, or they ask AI, and AI goes out to what's exist, and brings you back the goods, you know. And you feel like you haven't stolen anything, 'cause AI told you, but that's where they go. They go to see what's happening. - She always blame AI, 'cause you can't see AI. - So I was blame. - Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's on point. - I just got pissed off. I went to a little look at their Instagram, their first guest is NRR Birds. - Oh, I'm Screen Queens. - Yeah, and American Horror Story. - Oh, yes, they're conic. That's crazy. - How? - Well. - That pissed me off a room, my whole day. Your first guest, your first episode of NRR Birds. - Well, clearly on the machine, it's clearly. - I got Alex Cooper's pockets were opened up, and like, "Hey, Emma, you wanna get on this podcast?" But that's also, I think also if you're establishing yourself as a podcast, and we also don't know you, you should probably meet just being mad and jealous. (laughing) - Everything comes from bias with us. - Maybe you establish yourself as a personality before you go and get Emma Roberts. (laughing) - If this is me, I'll do, I know. I was like, oh, that's how it works. - Unwell plans. (laughing) - I mean, at the end of the day, that's why it sucks to be the face because it's like, everyone's just like, "Wow, Alex Cooper is still another idea." You know what I mean? And it's like, yeah, it's probably not her. It might not even be unwell. It might even just be, yeah, I might be like a robot that came up with this, but. - Well, it's a network show. It's a network show. It's not very hard. It has a better reputation. - Yeah, I'm saying it's like, it's not, you know, the people were hired, casted to be host. - Oh, sure. - That's the difference between, this is like, old-fashioned radio, right? There's a network, they hire somebody to be the announcer, they bring the guest, the sponsors, the, everything. That's what it is, so. And some people like it. well done. Well, they're not happy. I don't like the name either. Usually they have good names that unwell, but medical revolution. Yeah. I like that answer mostly. I feel like, yeah. We're doing their side. Which we should be. The name doesn't reflect two girls gossiping about it. Yeah, that's not a great title for what their podcast is about. Yeah. But I do, I am in support of them too. We do support them, but. Oh, my hands are mostly. Yeah, but the name is confusing. It doesn't give history. Historical. Yeah. The medical revolution is two on the nose. Like, okay, we get it. We're in the 1800s, but it's like, yeah, the right answer is only which you got wrong already. You were said wrong answers only. That's a better name, because that's what people say, right. Wrong answer only in like captions. It's like name the duo of wrong answers only. But that's what we're playing on. I think right answers mostly, like we're talking about history and they get most of it, right? But some stuff they'll get wrong, which I can relate to that. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Right takes mostly. It's something you know, Connor would go. We're right. Most of it, but he's single. Powers will be journalism sometimes. Maybe that's a good one. Yeah. Sometimes journalism. Well, I'm on the right answers only side, because it does suck to have an idea be stolen from. Although I did steal from Anna Nicole Smith and Wendy Williams concept. So, honestly, I don't know. I think it's one thing to be inspired. I think it's another thing for really large corporation to like steal your idea. I think that's where it hurts. It's like unwell, has the money, the lawyers, the power, all this stuff. That's what that is like, what's that? I saw that recently to a bigger term 21. He used to do that all the time. They used to like take like small, like clothing designers and just totally like knock it off. And it's just like so annoying. There was another one too, where a big brand, I think it happens a lot. Like they steal the ideas of a tick talker. And like maybe they don't see it, or like he said someone else that's hired to do it season and gets inspiration for it. But I think when it's like such a large scale, and they're getting all that promotion at Nemurov, which is the first cast. You're like, well, that really piss me off from my day. Yeah. I should piss them off too, because it's just like, well, now they're going to get a ton of yours. And they are going to be known as the gossip. What is a history gossip podcast? Yeah. But it is what's saying that that's the best compliment the copying them. Oh, the imitation is a serious form of flattery, except when they're making all the money and putting you out of business. No, but I never heard about the other podcast before. So all I'm saying like now they're known as being the original, the original, the one that we're on copy. And now people will find out about their hear about them, go to check them out. So it is flattering. They are copying them. And I'm sure I'm sure they get more traffic now. Yeah, maybe maybe you're right. Probably annoying though. Yeah. I just have someone copy me. I think I told you I just have someone copy me everything on my people, on my looks, everything. And I just like, it doesn't get annoying. And I get it. Like, obviously, I'd love to copy. I'd love to draw inspiration from all different places, but like a little bit from everybody. You know, like a little bit here, a little bit there. You don't have to do like exactly the same and the same people and the same looks and the same thing. It's just like, all right, yeah, you know, which kind of sounds like this. So I would be annoyed. I think if someone came out with like, like a just fish podcast and it was the exact same thing, but like blue squares or something, I'd be like, what the hell? You know, what the big, I'd be like, maybe a little annoying. Yes, I took it from Wendy. So it's like, if someone comes out with a bling microphone, sometimes a pink microphone, I'm like, that's my idea, but it's like, yeah, if they have like an Oscar and, you know, I guess it's fine. Whatever, what am I literally seeing that happen? And that's fine. Honestly, I didn't invent gossiping with a husband and a gay. It's fine. It's all fine. Unless you get Emma Robbers, if you get a guess I care about or something I like, then you're an enemy. Yes, instant. Yeah. I also think it's just unwell and we're just kind of have an unwell feeling about them. Like just everything happening lately with them where it's kind of like, okay, I know T, which is bad because I do like Alex Cooper, but that's what I'm saying. There is like a little difference, even though you can't differentiate because she's like the face of it, but she always has like her husband's running it. He has the corner office. I'm sure there's other people. I'm sure she's like giving birth, you know what I mean? So she's probably like, kind of hands off with all this stuff. She probably doesn't give, you know what I mean? So I'm just collecting this jacks, whatever. So I don't even, yeah, I like Alex Cooper. I don't know if I love the unwell network. Maybe I do actually. I think I do. You know what's so funny? Darian, we're getting energy drinks at like where we were, but we're getting energy drinks. I don't know. I don't know. It's somewhere. And I got an alony for me and then he got an unwell drink and he was like, oh, like unwell because Jesse was just on your podcast. And I remember she really wanted to go to the unwell thing. So I was influenced by Jesse from I was like, that's a big thing. But I was also like, I think it's like going under because it's really bad. But he was like, no, like it sounds good. It says pineapple mango or pineapple coconut. And he was so excited. And then we get in the car. He drinks it and he's like, this is the saltiest thing I've ever had. No wonder it's going under. I was like, I try to tell you. I'm surprised he got it because I thought I was like pulled. I thought it was all done and gone for him. Maybe they liquidated all out the Jeffery star. Oh, basically bears involved. Maybe they liquidated. Yeah. So Jeffery star cosmetics were found in Dollar Tree. I believe it was an eyeshadow like a singular eyeshadow shade. It was in Dollar Tree. And then once this was discovered on TikTok, people ran to Jeffrey, obviously. And Jeffrey said it was AI because he didn't know Dollar Tree had picked up his product. And then he did some research and realized that he had sold some older product to like a liquidation company. And then a liquidation company had sold it to like a Dollar Tree. And then they repackaged it and sold the shades individually on their stores. For Dollar? I believe it was a Dollar 25 before being specific. But yeah, that's inflation for you. Was he, what did he say about indifferent? He at first, he was like mad at people who were making the claims because he didn't know them to be true. So he was blaming AI and then always blame AI. We're always trying to find anything. Has been cheating. It was AI. I didn't do that. Like anytime there's an old company, I don't say AI. That's not me. And that was someone made me say that. But then once he did some investigating and found out the lore as to what happened with the product and that it was sold to this liquidation company, the liquidations company sold it to Dollar Tree. Then he was standing 10 toes down for a race. Like I don't know what was happening. I didn't know. It wasn't me selling it to Dollar Tree. But people keep bringing up. He infamously shaded. I believe Kat Von D when Kat Von D was in teaching the acts. The silly sponge of Circa, what two years ago? Like that is so funny. The fact that they're in the Dollar Tree now is hilarious. Let's try him. And he shaded another brand that was in Dollar Tree previously. No, he has to keep bringing that up. But he has said his response to that was I said that nine years ago. Like that's not me now. So it was kind of, you know, there's that. And I don't think in general, not just superstar. I think a lot of brands like I think when Laura Lee may be or talk to one of the beaters went to TJ Maxx. Like people were making fun of it. But like I think it just makes it more accessible to more customers. And there's nothing wrong with that. I love. We love. Moses got me on this. I remember when he first started. Another thing that came around to the watersnake and also Ross. There was a Ross. Moses did too. He got all his shirts at Ross. But it's like it was always a little chaotic for me when I went in there with him. Like this is the one by by baby. I was like, oh, that was a little chaotic. Yeah. And it's very chaotic. But when Moses goes, oh my god, he found all of Aquaman's new clothes like Disney stuff there. Like really, if you never would tell me that was Ross, I literally thought you got it. We would do go like Costco and stuff like that. But it was so cute. All of them were like four bucks. They're like the cutest thing ever. Tony, all of these finds all the cute baby clothes at TJ Maxx. My mom, she's always had to see me. I like the ideas. I like the right. I write the eye. I think I go in. I have to see, you know, when I go to a car, it has to be the one on display. Like if it's not on a mannequin, I don't want to I don't want it. So, but when you bring something back from me from Ross or TJ Maxx, love it. And then when you tell me the price, I'm like, the best. So, um, yeah, there's I think it's kind of a slay actually. If I did a collaboration, I'd want my makeup to only be a dollar tree because that's kind of cool. And you get it for a dollar. It's like in this economy, it's like, mom, kind of slimy. I don't know. I don't think it's like anything bad. It's also like, it stuff is probably overpriced. It's like, thank you for making it what it should be, which is not a bad industry. It's a great commercial. If somebody couldn't afford it by his cosmetics, and now they can afford it. And it's actually the cosmetics. It's not a fail. You're helping so many more people that are going to be so excited because they always wanted a Jeffrey star cosmetic. I'm going to afford an ounce in dollar. Yeah. I think it's a message though to anyone no matter where you are at life, don't be knocking down anyone who's like underneath because you just you never know when that reversal of fortune. I knew that early on when we were talking about the Vanity Fair, Octopus lover, J.J. being like, they is suck at interviewing because I'm like one day that could be very well me and the pressure and just anything. Yeah, it's like, it's good not to judge too harshly. Therefore, he who judges shall be judged himself. Period. I think from the tease from what I've seen your photo shoot for not love line looked very much Taylor Swift patients zero actually. Really? There was three setups. What part did we show? The black glasses. Oh, the Steve jobs. That was our Steve jobs. Oh, I was giving Taylor Swift patients zero. Yeah, that's what she's doing. We also had one with a bunch of red string. Did you see that in word? Tanna, I think she did it. It was like, call that love line. It kind of looks like a trick crime podcast because it kind of looks like an only word is in building when they piece all the things together. So it was like, what did she have on there? It was something like Mount Barbie Elvis. I remember she had like in a cool like it had all these things lined up. I don't really know. I didn't really investigate too far but because it wasn't that and she just brought a car and they put the car inside the studio. It was giving us a - It looked like we were going on the canceled tour. We were like in the convertible. I was like, she just loves a convertible shoe, and I was like, it was definitely, I love when she takes over a creative vision, and I was just like, she got all the dresses for us, everything, and I just go with it, you know what I mean? I'm just like, I love, 'cause I always have such a creative vision, but I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, being able to do that. We should have her a Patreon. You guys come up with a photo shoot, creative draft, and we all have to participate, although I probably, I hate, I hate giving control over to someone else. I'm like, ooh, maybe someone has a video, and I was like, oh, I don't know. But I think we could do that. I would love to see Moses' idea too for a photo shoot. That's why even Halloween customers so curious to know, oh yeah, we already know, Peter Pan, tell me. - Peter Pan. - Yeah. - And you came up with the ideas. What I think one of the Halloween customers you're doing was your idea. - Oh, yes, yes. - The trio. - Yeah. - Do you already got yours? - I have my wig for our trio costume. I have to get the rest, but I know conceptually. - I got the Zara Larsen one working, Jared, was like, I know the designer, I was like, oh my God, can you ask if I can have this? - It's everybody. - He does know everybody. He was one who got me that picture of the Fallsview Casino in Niagara Falls. He's like, I'm here for Charlie. I was like, oh, and he said it to me. I was like, well, thank you so much. He's boots on the ground. He is the best. He's so sweet. - Yeah, and he styles like literally everybody styles. He assists with Charlie X-Jax, Adela. - Christina. - Christina Gellera. - Yeah. - Yeah. He's really great. - He's giving the photo. - Yeah. - Yeah, he's pretty amazing. And he's just so nice too. He's like such a nice person. Yeah, he did my hacks premiere. And when he came, he got me my favorite little cheese balls from Four Seasons. He's like, I got these for you. Oh, thank you. That's so nice. Very sweet. - Guess what we can end on. And one's friends of the program, but now it's turned enemies because I'm jealous. It's pretty basic getting the whole Disney World sponsorship you guys. What they are. - I know. - I had some fun with the quickness. I think I was like one of the first views. - Really? - I only had less than 100 likes when I saw it. That's how fresh on the scene it was. And Remi and Alicia announced that Disney World is flying out pretty basic to do a whole podcast. - Inside the park. - Inside the park. - How does it feel of the "My Dream?" - I know. - "My Dream Bay" too. - I was like, heartbroken, I was like, oh, my god. - I'm like, I'll never be Remi nor Alicia. - Well, Disney World are coming to Orlando on Christmas. December 6th, balls in your court. We can have-- - Let's take Animal Kingdom. - Let's, let's, let's, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, let's do, - We'll take anything, yes, we will. - We can get married there again. - We'll get married there again. Right, we have a lot of Disney cars. We're going to Disney with Tan and Holly. We're going to Disney for our wedding or Orlando. We'll be there. They, some girls have a lot of luck. They really get everything. They're everywhere. They really are, their patron is killing it. It's like, yeah, they do live streams. I mean, they're really just those girls. - Why with Bretman Rock right now? Like, they're just living the dream. - Right. - Friends with Lana Del Rey. - Oh my God, you're right. - It actually makes me sick. How perfect and wonderful they are. - Guess there's something to strive for. - Or a reason to jump out a window. I'm kind of on the fence between the two. - What did you say today? You said something like, oh, someone called me chunky. You would tell me, you want to jump? I'm like, oh my God, off the roof. - I was like, no, jump them. - Oh, yeah. - That's like, I said, this was this question to you guys at home. I was like, if someone, 'cause did someone repeat someone calling someone chunky at the gym? - Yes. - Yeah, an ex-flang, or a friend of yours said, an ex-flang called you chunky? - Yeah, I was at the gym. I was talking to my, not, imagine a real life, whatever that is at the gym, acquaintance, I guess. And then I had an ex-flang from like, 2018, 2019, go out and say, oh, you know, Oscar? He's too chunky for me. And then that, I wrote him, came over to me, and told me that, and I was pissed. And then I went cornered him in the locker room, and said, did you call me chunky? And then, yeah, the rest is her string. - There it is. And you said, if someone called me chunky, you would tell me, and I'm like, I don't want to know, but then you would want to know. And I was like, what's the point? 'Cause I thought it was a bad friend, your infient real life, to be like, oh, that person called chunky. I'm like, what did that help you at all? - Help me jump him, I guess. Help me. - But, wouldn't it matter if he didn't tell you, like, if he didn't tell you, you would just never have that in your mind. And now, you've held on to that, 'cause I was three years ago. - But, I would see this guy called me chunky. I would see him and not have horrible thoughts about him, but now he gave me peace to like, oh, he's like talking bad about me. Now, I can listfully and willfully wish horrible things upon him. - But see, that's the problem, 'cause when I had my friend say someone was talking about me, now, all I think about constantly is just that person being. - Oh, I thought about it all the time, too, yeah. And then I thought about it all the time. - I'd rather just not know, I'd rather be fake. I'd rather be like, we love each other, everything's great, like whatever. And now, just like, damn, they hate me. - I love having a grudge. It, like, fuels me, keeps me motivated. When I'm at the gym, and then he doesn't go there anymore, I guess, 'cause I haven't seen him in a couple of years, maybe two years. But, when I was there, and he was there, it would fuel me, and then I would lift heavier. I would go longer, because I was so pissed, and wanted to, like, I don't know if I can legally say this, but smash his head with, like, a dumbbell or something, you know, so. - That's crazy. Okay, well, maybe anger management is in your feature. 'Cause you should be lifting, sometimes when I do lifts, 'cause now I'm back, I'm doing my weight training, sometimes I'm like, oh, I'm lifting, so I can squat better. - Period. - Moses might be a little TMI, I won't get too graphic, but he did say, ooh, I could feel your abs. - Whoa! - During it. - I was very athletic, and he's like, wow, I feel the abs. - Oh my God, that's major. - That's amazing, yeah. - How did you feel him? - 'Cause we were just talking. - When I was contracting. - Oh, we were just-- - We were just feeling you. - Oh, no, you didn't feel him that way. There's no way, that was the new, we were just making it up. I didn't feel him working, like, I was contracting them. - I was feeling your muscles. - There's no muscle there, it's just fat right now. There's muscle underneath. You felt through the fat? - Yeah. - Yeah, of course, you can feel it. - I thought you just met, 'cause I was like, so athletic. 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That's code TRISH for up to 20% off on home and sleepwear. And if you see a post-purchase survey, please be sure to mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Thank you so much to Cozy Earth for sponsoring. - All right, you guys, very excited for our guest today. - Star of so many things. Let me say Star Pontiacs that because that is-- - Just like you, I lived in many lives. - You lived in many lives. The one and only Kevin Wu was here. - Hello. - He was, you were our guest. You were like, I was so nervous. We weren't gonna get you. It would not have worked. The video would not have worked without you. I was just like, 'cause we needed a real K-pop idol. - On his mind. - You. - On his mind. - It's so, so good. - I got all the calls from my managers, my team, and they told me about it. And then I looked at my DMs. 'Cause I don't only check my DMs that much. - DMs? - Yeah, I really don't need that. - It's a tale of worms. - Yeah. - Like why? - It's like open it, and then you DM me. - Did I unscended or did I keep it? - I think you kept it. - Yeah. - I was like, as soon as we got through your agents, I'm like, let me unsen, 'cause I don't wanna be. - Then they're done that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, let me not be weird. (laughing) - Too late. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You thought I was just getting confused. - No, no, no. When I saw a DM, I was like, wait, is this, I had to double check 'cause I was like, is this the treasure pain? - Oh, you knew. - Of course I didn't knew. - No, but that's not, not everyone knows. because it's like, I'm kinda neat. It's like, "I'm gonna be neat so that was crazy." - No, I was obsessed with her. - You know the song, you knew that too. - Of course. - Oh wait, that's cool. Okay, that's really cool. (singing in foreign language) - Hello. (singing in foreign language) - Oh my God. (laughing) Like, you, like, seeing faster Korean than I do. - I'm very, really, oh my God. I feel like I do. I do love. I just love the language so much. - No, it's beautiful. - So, I mean, when you reached out for me to be a part of your second Korean single, I was just like, wow, what a dream. Because, seriously, seriously, because you don't know, like, what kind of, do you know how popular you are in South Korea? - No, I know, because I'm from Melan. I keep being taught not on Melan and I try to get on Melan. - Did you know what Melan was prior to? - I did not. - I did not, but I was told they were like, you need to get on Melan and I was like, - That is our like, I too. Billboards chart like that is our like the chart to be armed. So how do they know who I am if I'm not on melon? Well, no, they looked you up after Oh, so I don't have they saw on social media and viral all over And then naturally arises as it gets viral on social media Oh, cuz it was number two on the K-pop charts for 24 hours It was insane. It was insane. I'm like a real life K-pop. I don't know of my debut at 38 It was it was kind of everything I was very excited. Yes, um, and this is getting very kpop. Yeah, it was the hard Okay, so what I have a lot of questions about you but before he is that he has to show you the video last night because it'll premiere right after this I know So okay, so every scene was like literally a k-drama scene Like I know that was that was the inspire but you nailed it the execution on point. Okay, you were proud of it Yeah, you were so good, too Okay, you never know you're primarily like singer dancer, but you were giving You were giving so much. Yeah, it was loosely like bass. I love I always have people that's my demon It's like one of my favorite ones on Netflix, and so it was have you seen it? Okay, so I like love it so much and like the best part about K-dramas is just the drama of it all like you know It's obsessed with that one. I love it. And it's just like always saving someone I was trying to figure like how you saved me from like a train coming up here pulling me like I was I had a ton of down a lot That was actually without spending millions of dollars. Yes. Yes. Yes. This was one of my higher budget Once I really wanted to do so much budget was budget. It was a high quality music video Thank you. It was really hot that day. We're at the mall. It was really hot. It was like K-town Plaza K-town Plaza if you know you know And people know I posted a little clip of us at the escalators. Yeah, straight up runs like oh my god It's the K-town Plaza. Yeah, basically KTP. Yeah, I was like you're at KTP because that food core is iconic So good and I grew up in that career town Plaza as well Which I had no idea you told me this on set so you are born in California San Francisco Born in Bay Area, but I say San Francisco because I come from like a very small suburb called Danville Yeah, but I yeah born and raised here and I wanted to become a K-pop star Which is so crazy right like you were telling me this on set Yeah, I guess I didn't know the lore like obviously it we told you and my kids I talked about it You were so I wish I had that initial meeting at the show in the music video So cute love hip-hop demon hunters, and if you guys don't know cabin is the voice of mystery Sajja As soon as you met Malapu and I was why I wish I was recording because obviously she knows the voice in mystery Sajja So like that, but as soon as you sang you're like And then she like melted she melt and then she was so shy. She was very shy She was like do you want to dance with me? Do you know the soda pop dance and then she would not do it? Which she does all the time she and specifically Sajja boys does she not every night watching Sajja boys I'm like what are you watching and I think she's like at this age. She's four. She's like a little shy Yeah, she's watching like the cute boys and she's just like no don't look So I sent you when we are targeted sent in the clip of really the Sajja boys t-shirt that she left So yes, she was really shy and and she were the roomie way yes Yes, she had that and the sword came with the sword. Yeah, she was really really excited. You were so gracious You're so nice Especially to like, you know, you know because you are so known for other things So the fact that you like lean into that for the little kids was you know I I love kids and especially after K-pop demon hunters It's just been non-stop meeting my new fans my audience is now five year olds It's not crazy and you're so good with them like you think you sign everyone's a mystery Sajja card They had to read them all at the mall we bought them we bought that we were literally walked in I wanted you to be like It's him, you know, but they already knew you they were like so excited Like the boss Yes, the she came and he was just like getting a photo the purple of the gym Everybody was freaking out. It felt very cool I felt like just honored to be kind of like part of you But no, they're picking up because of her no, no no, it's definitely you and I'm trying to get out of it But then I was like, okay you two and then I was like wow, just K-pop idols here At the mall meeting our fans So like every poster was K-pop demon hunters. It was everywhere. I felt right at home. It is everywhere It's so crazy. It's like wild to see since doing that you've been kind of non-stop. It's just been non-stop But no like like you mentioned I was aspiring to be a K-pop winery since I was a kid Yeah, so I move I convinced my mom to audition in Korea So when I was 15 I decided to go to Korea audition for a Korean like K-pop label and they signed me on the spot So I didn't even have time to come back home to stay buying to my friends or family. I was there. Yeah, I just stayed and then And then fast forward 15 years 15 20 years You know I come back to the States. Yeah, you were over there for was it 15 years 20 years? I live in Korea for almost 15 years. Yeah, and you did too. You're in U-Kiss and what was the other band? I was in U-Kiss I was also in a group called sing prior to U-Kiss, but it was the X-I-N-G - You did your research. - I did four and then I was a little wild. Oh really, is that the lesser known one? - Yeah, 'cause you kids was like my major debut. - You were blonde. - I was blonde. I had many eras. I had like my blonde era. I had like my wig. I had like a Chris Jenner bang. - You did? - I mean, if you, I don't even like talking about this, 'cause everyone looks it up on you too, but please don't. - I'm better at Jimmy. - Yeah, I'm better at Jimmy. - Yeah, I see it. No, you look the exact same when I look at you back in you kiss. I was like, wait, you look the exact same. - Thank you. - And I thought I was like, okay, yeah, 'cause you've been around. I was like, okay, we're not gonna get the problem is, especially with K-pop idols, right? It's like they're also young, right? Like, one pack did, it's not on Hey Dance. That's maybe one pack. I'm like, I'm gonna look like they're grandma. I was like, I need not to. - And one pack, they, they know, they know. - They're grand, yeah, they do. And they, honestly, they were like, they were here. They were touring bars, like, and then I was like, okay, someone, maybe, maybe closer to my age, you are younger than me, but for the record, but as someone closer, but then I saw you, and then I saw you on screen. And I was like, I mean, you look like you're 15 now. And I was like, oh, my God, not again. So then I just look like a little mima in the video. - No, no, but no, everyone asked and I'm like, oh, it's like, it's, it's a skin care, but no, it's a skin care. - It's just an addict. - It's an addict. - Yeah, an addict momma and my dad. - So you're not doing like heavy, glass skin routines or anything? - I mean, I, I still do do that. - Yeah, but yeah, you're very lucky. - You got incredible skin. - No, I aged like, let her out. - No, you did not. - I am trying more not to be like in the sun, so much. - Your skin has literally flawless. - Well, it is, I will say, I do do the glass skin routines. I love a new, I love a new, not sponsored by any of these. - No, no, no, no. - I want a sponsored by Ilyana at one point, but I love them, but yeah, they're, but no, I love all these, and they did the K-pop Demon Hunter Club. I think we talked about that. - Yeah. - He did something with a new, they were great. - Did you speak, did you know Korean before you went over? - Oh, little bit. - Yeah, I spoke both English and Korean growing up in the household, but not fluent at all. - And they were okay with that when you went to Korea. - Yeah, yeah, because I'm so young, they knew I was going to pick it up really quickly. You know, when you're 15, your brain's like a sponge. - Right, right. - Yeah, so I learned, I picked it up real quickly, and then I learned Japanese. - Wow. - A little, little bit of Chinese. - Right, because in the idol boot camp, literally the training before you debut, you get every training imaginable. Like, you get media training, you get acting, singing, dancing, those are givens, but like, they also, like, how to tell you how to pose. They tell you how to, like, take photos to post on social media, like, it's a whole training. - But even back that, I mean, that is a long time ago, so this is kind of a little bit before. - It was social media, before social media, but we did have Twitter, and we had YouTube, and we had our own, like, in Korea, we call them fan cafes. So it was like our version of Instagram or whatnot, or like Patreon, you have to subscribe to get, like, photos, like, exclusive photos. - We're doing photo cards back then. - Yeah. - Photo cards, we're out now. - Photo cards were, yes, it was a thing since day one. - Wow. - How does the training program work, like, so you got signed, and then you got put into the training program before you were placed in a group? - We signed the contract, and then you go through the training process, and then there's, like, a bunch of other kids in my label, there were maybe, like, 10 to 15, which is quite small. - Yeah. - In, like, Hybe, SM, JYP, there's, like, hundreds. - Wow. - Was Hybe back then, too, was it? - Hybe was not, uh, not around back then. - Because we see that with the cats I show how they kind of did that. - Exactly. - And that training is intense. - Like, diabolical, like, kids are just, like, not sleeping, they're literally breaking their backs to make the cut. - So when you see something, like, cats, all the members taking mental health breaks, like, I get it. - Oh, I can't. I need to turn it off, like, I get like, triggered, you know? - Yeah, you're like, it's a lot, 'cause it's so intense, but, but I will say it paid off, because when we, you were so, you, again, you were, like, so gracious. - A lot of times when you get, like, another name or a star to be in a music video, a lot of times it's like, okay, well, you can't do extra TikToks, you can't do this, you were, like, so down. - No, I wanted to. - Yeah, you're like, I'll learn the dance, and I was like, real, 'cause I didn't want to get into the dance. - And then we're ahead of, like, to catch. - Yes. - And we were on a time crunch, and I was like-- - In two minutes. - Let's do this, let's knock this dance chat with you. - Yeah, in two minutes to learn the dance, the Sparkle Step, and Patrick Step. And he was literally, like, did it, and it took me two days to learn this. You did it in literally a minute, and then the TikTok, we did two takes, done, nailed it. - Well, it paid off. - It paid off by a little training to do that. - I never felt less of a kickoff by the next year. - It took 20 years in the making. - No, and I looked back at the video, and there's people who are fixing the lighting, because you guys are changing sets. - Oh no, there's a man. - We will zoom in, but like, no one, no one, like, cares the mention. No, they were kind of like, I don't know what they're doing, just a tick. - So when we posted, you'll know that there was a set change behind this. - I know, it was a lot happening. And it was like the final hour, so the light has changed. Like we didn't have light on us, it was-- - But it looked raw, it looked, you know, it was giving-- - And you crushed it. - Thank you. - And I will say, yeah, you're so right. I mean, obviously, very different perspectives, but like when you went over at 15 and you were like, you know, fresh and stuff and learning, I will say like Korean speakers are so supportive. Like when I did Ta-Dong, hey, like so many people reviewed it. And they were like, obviously not perfect pronunciation. I was like, but they were appreciative of trying. And I thought that was really 'cause I was just trying. - Yeah, oh my goodness. Wait, I'm so curious, 'cause like I think also everyone of like my audience should know how, how it inspired you for Sanhae. - It really was. - The table's up turn. - I know, I was like, I'm going to the cabin room podcast. - This is the media trading. Go actually let me ask you about you. Which is great. - No, 'cause I feel like a lot of Korean audiences and K-pop audiences will be so, like curious to know what, you know, what was the input behind this. - Yeah, it really was my kids. I really 100% was my kids. - The K-pop demon then? - It was 100% K-pop, you know, it's just art. But I always say this, like they would watch on YouTube 'cause it's just the songs 'cause the movie's a little scary. 'Cause I don't like the watchable. - Oh, demons, oh no. - Oh yeah, it's just like this. - It's lame. - Yeah. - They were slain, they were slain. - Just popping up demons, yeah. - Yeah, it gets a little spooky, but. But they love the songs. And so what YouTube would do is like recommend songs after. So it did start with like the ones over here. So kind of the op dip, you know, the rosette, yeah. - BTS. - BTS would come in the play, but then it would go to like ATs, cornets. Like it started going to them. And then again, I think they just saw the great. - I love ATs too. - Yeah, they're wonderful. So they were starting, so then that started playing and then some older, not older, but like second generation, that's what they call it. - Second generation. - Yeah, there was this girl group. What is it, the little Piggies? Is that what they were called? They were the, do you remember them? - Ooh, wait, what were they called? - Singing Piggies or something. - Singing, I don't know. They definitely had Piggies in the title. And they would pop up and they were like a trio. It was a K-pop group, maybe in the 90s even. And they were like, they were like curvy. - 'Cause she knows more than I do now. - Wow. - Well, I just saw them. - The dedication. - 'Cause I never thought I could be a K-pop idol until I saw them, 'cause like, you know, there's not a lot of plus size K-pop idols, but they were, they were a little like curvy. And I was like, wait, I kind of like love this. - Oh, wait, I do, I don't, I know who you're talking about. - But I know, I think I'm getting your, I definitely know Piggies isn't. I'm not being so, it's not by can't think what it was. And so then I was kind of like, wait, and then my kids loved this music. And so I was like. - 'Cause it's fun, it's so fun. - It's just like bubblegum pop. And then just like the most innocent, pure way. - Yes. - And it's like kid friendly, it's family friendly. - And that's the thing, it's like, and that's what it is, right? 'Cause if you watch like a K-pop group, it's in English, but it has that same sort of feel. It's very like early 2000s. - Early, yeah. - Like girl groups that I would be watching, I remember being like, oh my gosh, and my girls really loved it. I was like, maybe I could go to this genre of music, 'cause I love music, so I, so good. - So the day was a bit more on the PG, more conservative side. - Yes, so then my friend who's been doing my music for like 15 years, his name's Jaime. He knew Alex Wright, who is, you know Alex. - Yeah, and that was such a coincidence, 'cause I have known Alex for almost like 20 years. I met him when I was in Korea. - Yeah, he's like, oh, I know Kevin and his sister. And I was just like, why didn't you? 'Cause when we were trying to think of like K-pop idols, you know, he knows so many, and stuff, he's like giving me names. And then I was like, why didn't you connect us? Because I really wanted you. And then it was like, it all ended up working out, but he was great, and yeah, so he-- - No, the universe aligned. - Yeah, there was literally every angle, yeah. - It was great. And so he wrote the song kind of as a favor to like Jaime, and then but we really clicked. He's the one who taught me on my Korean, so we'd be in there, and he's also Australian. So it's like Australian, he has that little accent. - He does. - So I would be hearing sometimes R is at the end, and then I'd be like, so like Chonban-Nil, but I was hearing like Chonban-R. And I yell, and I was like, oh, but Chonban-Nil. Okay, I was like-- - Yeah, Chonban-Nil. - But he's great, and he was obviously really, really great, but he taught me on my Korean, and he was wonderful. So then he was like, so down, he was happy with the success of Sauron, and he's like, I can write you another one, and I'm like, yeah. - Because you know, I mean, obviously we go into it because we love the R, and we do it for ourselves. - Yeah. - Just for the, like, you know, to create R, but did you have any idea? It would be this viral. - No, I truly didn't, and I'm getting now into like, the whole K-Pop, where I didn't realize, I should realize K-Pop is like the biggest thing, and it's having a research, and obviously it's big. - Lots of things to you, too, with your audience. - No, I think I'm just jumping in it. - No, no, no, no, no, we're all contributing. - No, no, I appreciate that. And people have been very supportive, like I said, just seeing people like, that are so respected and stuff doing all these, like dancing to it was really, really cool. - With the lyrics part, like, how did you memorize it? 'Cause like, for the music, yeah. 'Cause you performed live, too. - Yes, I performed it live. You know what, I practiced my Korean songs more than I practiced my English songs. So, I'll do a music video, and I'll like, like, last minute, I'll like, kind of think of the words, but-- - 'Cause girl, I can't even memorize English, but I just see, you know? - In Korean, English is a little hard. - I get older, it's just like, give me a teleprompter. Like, I'm kidding. But, sometimes I do need an extra little help. - But can I tell you, I messed up freaky at my real alcohol show, and I don't know, I didn't know the words to my e-book, but yeah, but it's not on, hey, I can still recite. - And you're asleep. - Yeah, because I can recite it, and it's also like, just knowing, like, a lot of the songs use the same verbiage, right? Like, hey, I'm not so upset. - I'm not so upset. - Is that what? Is that missing or something? And I would repeat it in one. So, now I'm kind of like, oh, I know these words now. - 'Cause like, yeah, you keep the similar phrases and words pop up, so you're like, oh, now I recognize that word. - Yes, and then Pontextep, we put Hana do a set, because that was the only Korean I knew 'cause I did check one out. (laughing) - So, yeah, that comes with the, yeah. So, I was like, it was, yeah, so it was fun, and I love it so much, and it's one of my favorites. But, I do love you, like, okay, back to you when you're saying that. - Oh, no, thank you. - Because you're going back, no. - I'm just so curious about you. - No, thank you for asking, that's all right. No, right away when we met, we just, like, hit it off, and I was like, oh, I'm so happy, 'cause I was nervous. - 'Cause when we're together, our energy is just explosive. - Yeah. - 'Cause we're just on the same wavelength with the girl, right? - We really are. - The day we met, we were just, like, sparks. Just like, ah! - But the stuff, it was just, it really was, nope. And you were just so down, too, which is, like, you just never know when, 'cause you are, again, you've been around for so long, but then you've had this, like, research until it came out, you were at the Oscars. I mean, you're really just, they're talking about a sequel for and stuff like that. - Which is so, like, insane to wrap my head around. - That's great. You looked amazing, right? - Oh, thank you. - You're so, you are giving, we're chatting in your fashion week. Like, you are giving, what would you say your career goal is now? Are you still singing, dancing, acting, mommy? - I wanna be Trisha Peta, so I'm gonna do it all. - You've already done it, Edward. - I wanna do it all, girl. No, I mean, I don't really think there's one category that I'm doing. I'm a content creator, obviously, I'm a singer, that's, like, my backbone. But acting has also been such a joy to pursue and to, like, just work on that craft has been so incredible, and it's been an incredible journey as well, especially with K-POP Demon Hunters. - Amazing. - Open so many more doors for me, but, no, honestly, just doing it all. - Yeah, as you should. - In 2026, like, we have to, you can, and you have to, so you're going back to creating, like, a week, you said, - We are, and you are too, right? - I don't know if it's still, I'm hoping it still happens, but yes, because I have a book tour in November that I might coincide with, but I'm still trying to go back to October, but it's really pushing it, but I'm really trying, and it was a beauty brand, so I'm, like, really helping it work. - I don't know. - You're with, like, a month. - I'll be there for, like, a month. I have a concert with some of my U-KISS members. We formed, like, a sub-unit, like, a little group called UX1, so we're doing a concert in Japan. - Oh, my God. - I'm going for that, and then, yeah, my family was in Seoul too, so visiting family, a little bit of both, work and play. - Did your mom and sister just stay over there then when you went over? They just stayed there, because you were here in California. - Yeah. - It's in LA, but we're just so international. We're, like, just constantly back and forth, yeah. - Back and forth, yeah. - What is the flight to Korea? What is that time? - It's, like, it's, like, 10 to 11 hours. - Oh, nothing. - But the time difference is, like, what, 18 hours, 17 hours? - I do know that. - It's crazy. - I know it was, like, 5 p.m. - You're getting up or something like that. - I'm trying to be up for it. - But it's very smart. Very considerate. - Yes. - And you know that when you posted, sit on here, because you posted like 9 p.m. - 9 p.m. - 9 p.m. - You knew the audience, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, I was hoping. I was hoping it would, you know, reach the right audience if they would be. - Exactly. - I was nervous though, too, because you just never know how to go, but they were very, uh, they were very nice. - Yeah. - I was like that. But, so, you've been, and you performed in Japan before when you were, like, in the, so-- - In your kids? - In my group, we would promote in Japan a lot, so a lot of, um, you know, my fans are out there, so. - What is, maybe you could tell me, I, okay, because like, I thought about doing J-Pop first. I was like, maybe J-Pop, because I-- - It all coincides. - I could say, is there a big difference? - We're both inspired by each other. But the biggest difference, I mean, nowadays it's really hard to tell, because, um, we, we, uh, adapted a lot from J-Pop culture, and then, you know, vice versa, we kind of, like, feed off each other's energy. But I feel like J-Pop is a bit more, uh, I mean, there's a lot of anime soundtrack. - Yeah. - And, and because that's such a big thing in Japan, it's a lot of, like, it's very, fun. - Bouncy. - It's bouncy, you know, and it's so vivid and colorful and animated. - Yeah. - Um, versus K-Pop is very, very sexy. - Yes. - You know, very, it's, it's, it's giving a lot of things. It's cute and sexy. So I was, I would say that's, like, the biggest difference. - I want to transition my next K-Pop song into, like, more sexy dark. - Because it's a little dark, you know what I mean? - Right now you're in your soda pop era. - Yeah. - And we need to see your idol. - Oh, yeah. - I love it. - And you need to see a little darker, promiscuous kitchen. - Yeah. Okay, I love it. I think that's where I'm going next. It's not like that. Well, even if it does, and I don't care, 'cause my kids, again, they truly picked the songs I would play them, 'cause they gave me about five songs to choose from each time. - And my kids. - And my kids love your idol more than soda pop. - Exactly. - 'Cause I've been doing these anime conventions, and I meet, you know, all these families and, you know, fans from all over the world. And I constantly ask them, "What's your favorite soda pop your idol?" - Yeah. - I would, I assume kids would love soda pop, because it's, you know. - The big song. - Yeah. - But all the kids are obsessed with your idol. - Wow. - It's interesting. - It's something about that song, that just like lures them in. - Yeah. - It's probably like the dark energy and the same. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well even in Game of Thrones, I don't even know the others. That's like take down Golden, but there's another song they sing. It's like slower and they like love that one too. - Oh, what it sounds like or. - Yeah, this is what it sounds like. - Yeah, yeah. - And they love that one. - And that's like, it goes hard. - Yeah. And it's so interesting. Like what's one they like and same thing. So I will say Pontiac's step, I'm not just saying this, they'd love to shout out. They like, they know all the words all the way that. But Pontiac said they, the video specifically, they ask and you can just ask this, I've had it for a week now. We played it once on the big TV and they come and play it again and come play again. They ask for it. And we had to put a cap at five times a night because they literally want to watch it like over and over again at night. So now I want to know, we'll finally be on YouTube, they can just rewatch it over and over again. - Yes, well they, and they loved you. They loved you so much. They were like, I think they loved the story too because it was giving K-Drama. So it's a little more than just fun pop, it's giving romance, giving fantasy and you were so good in your life. - Right now you kind of resemble romance, Saja. 'Cause he has like the pink reddish hair. - Which Saja was at, you was. - Yeah, did you dress up for Halloween? - We were Saja boys, he was mystery. - I'm not. - We were mystery. - Two mysteries of that. - Two mystery, that's an interesting one. - Why did I? - The wig. - The wig, yeah. - It's a wig, yeah. - He loved being hidden and I love that you dress, like you kind of like do, not like a cosplay, but you do like the yellow one. - I did it, yeah. - With the purple bags, I do love it. I don't know which one I'm baby, I was baby. - Oh baby is, yeah. - That's really popular too. - Their father daughter Dan's is K-pop demon hunters. It's coming next week and the theme is K-pop demon hunters, which is crazy. - Oh my god. - When we saw that, we're like, that is so odd. It's so bizarre. So you're gonna wear, you wear the one with the floral. - Abbey. - Abbey, yes, yes, yes, yes. - He wanted to be the lover. - You're working on your abs, you have to. - He has a bit of an abs. - The popcorn eyes. He wanted to be the woman with a black hair, but I was like, oh, that's too, that's too common. - He wants a colorful hair and stuff like that. Okay, so then you'll be over there and then when you come back, you'll be back here for the holidays. - Yeah, back for the holidays. - He spends time here in LA. - I actually don't know what I, I don't have any plans. I actually don't know what I'm doing next week. My life is just all over the place. - It is crazy. That was New York Fashion Week. - 'Cause you went from the shoot church in New York Fashion Week. - True, true. - New York Fashion, it was my first New York Fashion Week. It was insane, back to back, I don't know, just being in New York is a lot. - Yeah. - Energy is a lot, but New York Fashion Week energy is just on another level, because I was barely sleeping. To get to point A to B is there's so much traffic, sometimes you just have to take the subway. - I can imagine. - And you're in full glory, sometimes I do. - Yeah. - Oh my god, 'cause you were like crystals on your jacket. - A lot of people were doing that. - Okay. - Yeah. - Girls with heels and dresses. - On the subway? - Yeah. - You lived in New York for a little bit too, right? - I did. I was on a Broadway show called K-Pop. - I did every K-Pop project. - I love that. - From the Broadway show to K-Pop's The Movie with Anderson Pack, which is not on Netflix. - Oh, okay. Was it based on-- - No, it's an original story. - And it's just called-- - K-Pop's. - It's just called K-Pop's. - 'Cause Anderson Pack, he is a dad. - Yeah. - And he has his real-life son in the two, so it's K-Pop's. - Oh, so you're like, you are acting your dream. - I love it. And I love that you're not shining away from it. I think some people probably want to be like, oh, I'm going to break free from something else and not just take the K-Pop. - No, I'm embracing it. - As you should, because it is the biggest thing in the world. - But I play a villain in it, so I have like platinum blonde hair. It wasn't a wig. I had to bleach it. And I play the number one idol in this competition show that his real-life son is auditioning for. But I'm like, I'm like a, yeah, a very cocky, like very narcissistic evil idol. - You're so bubbly and sweet. Oh, okay, so after, you're like acting your dream. - Yeah, check it out. Check it out. - I didn't know this. Oh, I'm like your biggest fan. I live in watch everything you do. So now I'm like, that's on the list for a show. - No, same, literally same. - That's what you're just such a nice human. Like, you know, you're doing all this stuff. And you're actually just like so nice, and you were like just so sweet and wonderful. - Thank you, thank you. - Oh, like that. That is so wise. So you spent most of your life performing. - Performing? - No. - Yeah. - Playing B. - Touring. It was just like, I haven't been this busy in my, I mean, I've been busier during my K-pop days. - But yeah, ever since I left the group, it's been the busiest. We're just such a blessing. - Yeah. - Honestly, it's been a year and the fandom is just, it's only growing. - Crazy, yeah. And then they're discovering, are you doing solo music now? - I am, yeah. So music has been kind of like my, my focus these days. - Do you have a solo album out? - Not a solo album. I've released singles, you know, time to time, but right now I'm just like focused on getting more music out. - Yeah. - I just released a single called Ain't No Party. - Oh. - I released that in the summer, like in July. - Oh, okay. - Super fun. It's getting like Bruno Mars meets like Justin Timberlake. - Justin Timberlake. - My voice is kind of like a div right now. - I know, people are like, "I don't do a little bit of you." - Yeah, and it's fun, it's fun. - Yeah. - Your voice is beautiful. - It's like how scared I am. But I kind of, I kind of like- - It was good. - Yeah, it was getting a brass feeling. - It was like sure. - Your voice is like butter. When you were singing the solo album, I was just like, "Oh my god, like it's so surreal to hear. Do you hear anything about a sequel?" - Ooh, I mean, the sequel is in the works as we speak. - Yeah, Maggie is working on it, but nobody, nobody in the cast or creators knows any, it's all in her brain. - Okay. - It's like, "Nobody knows." - No songs you ever heard. - No. - What was the fate of Mystery Saga and the first one? Did he end up going back to- - Well, Zoe does, like, they slash him and then he's like slayed and gets dissipated. - Yeah. - But who knows? - Okay, they're demons and come back. - Yeah, it's like- - The demons are, yeah. They're always, they're constantly with us. - That's so funny because I was like, "Okay, we're at that." Well, you are so busy and I really appreciate you, like I mean, are you going to do a podcast because you're so good at talking too. - No, I mean, so I was going to start a K-pop podcast and just kind of like invite a lot of my K-pop friends and not even just K-pop idols, but just like anyone who's interested in K-pop, it's kind of like gossip and just kind of like ramble on about what we love about K-pop. But then life, you know, I was doing music and then I was shooting movies and then I got a cast on Broadway, so I moved to New York. So like, I just wasn't in one place enough to, you know, start a podcast because it's a big commitment. - Yeah. We always find that out too. It's just like, oh, the way that travel, you just have to move things or it's like really it is really hard. That's why we do it at our house, which is like so wonderful. If you could do a little branding of your own, the BTS had their McDonald's meal. What would be your spin-off? It could be toys. It could be anything. It's just- - It's just so speaking of McDonald's, like, you know, happy meals and toys. The size of boys and hunt-tricks had our- - Yeah, we did, yeah, we got it. - We got it. - Yes, that boys were here for breakfast. - Breakfast, man. - And they made me go get the hunt-tricks at, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they made like a special, like, demon sauce for us. Like it was purple. - The breadball, that was wild. - It was wild. - It was wild. - Oh, that's right. So you've had your McDonald's meal. Oh, my God. - And then we had our, like, breakfast, like, McMuffin with our spicy sauce. - Spicy. I loved how they, you know, paid homage to, like, Korean food and spices. - Oh, that's true. They did it different because I think BTS was just, like, a little honey sauce or something like that. - Something, yeah. - That's a little different. - But their figurines were cute, though. Yeah, we had photo cards. - I loved it. - Yeah, the photo cards were great. - But for me, I don't know. - Like, what's something that you love and use regularly, like, you know, like, I should be the face of this. - Ooh. Um. Okay, so I do use a lot of Medicare-cube, so maybe my own Kevin would device. - I'm sure they haven't already. - Right. Medicube. Come on. - I love the neck one. I'm not sponsored at all. - No, we're not, yeah. - The neck-ferming one. - We just love it. - It's the best. Which one you use? - I mean, I use the booster pro. And then they just came out with X2, which is, like, a bigger one. Has more features. - Oh, my God. - Um, but no, it's literally a magic wand. - It is. - Like, the way it, like, moves your muscles and contracts it. - It's, like, this one that you move around like this. - You feel it. - You rub it, the device on your skin, you feel your muscles, like, move, like, just kind of, like, it does the work by itself. And so, obviously, our faces, like, our face have so many muscles. So, like, every other muscle in our body, we need to work it out. - Yeah. - And when we smile, we only use a part of it, but we need to exercise every muscle. And that's how, like, you tighten your muscles in your face to prevent from drooping. - Oh, my gosh. I didn't know that after he was that. - Yeah. - The whole Korean beauty has really taken over, like, TikTok. When you go over there, do you get any, because, you know, the work and stuff like that over there is beautiful. And it's, like, less expensive than here. - Uh-huh. - Do you get anything? - Of course. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - What did they have color? - You know, it's maintenance, you know? At this point, you know, as I'm getting older, it's just, like, you know, I don't do too much. - Yeah. - But, you know, just hearing the skin treatment. - Yeah. - I want to do this, like, lip tint. They do over there. Have you seen that? - Yeah. - So, that we just always have, like, a little glow too. - Yeah, yeah. - But, um, but also, like, you know, for a manicure, like, the device is, there's a little cap you put on. - Yes. - To protect the surface. - Yes. - Maybe, like, a Camimoo, like, character face. - That's so cute. - Like, a little cap. - Yeah. - You should be on stuff. And just as you, 'cause we don't like mystery-sized, but also, you're just, like, so cute. I think that's why, like, Alabama was, like, so, like, oh, my gosh. 'Cause you just look. - What about glasses? - Ooh, these are dental monsters. - Yeah. So, Jamie from BLACKPINK was the face of dental monster, and, like, she was, like, the whole face and branding of it. And she's, like, so cool. - Yeah, yeah. - Of course, the best. - But, no, they make the coolest designs, like, very modern, futuristic. If you go to their, um, stores, it's, like, a art exhibition. - Oh, I never see this. Are they, like-- - They're one in West Hollywood. - Yeah. - We should go together. - Okay. >> Yeah, you're a glasses wear. >> Am I influencing? >> Yeah, you are. >> You influence everything. I don't even see anything on your thing. >> Stop it. >> You have to cover rolling stone. >> Rolling stone, yes. >> Yeah, you're really kind of everywhere. It's really remarkable to see. >> Just trying to catch up with Trisha. >> I'm going to say that all day. >> You really have to. >> Just trying to catch up. >> Well, thank you. I appreciate that. You know, Pontic Step is coming up. >> Step by step. >> Earlier that everyone held their music releases. They all went early. Last, like, a Della. They all, like, did their music early. Because Taylor Swift is releasing music on Friday. So we're going against Taylor Swift. >> Oh, my God. But Adele is having her moment. >> Adele, you love him. >> Nicole Kidman on repeat. >> So good. >> Oh, my God. So good. >> It's just sitting right. >> No, no, no, no. >> But before we go, I want to, like, talk about the music video. Because it's coming out. >> Yes. >> No, right after this. >> Right after this. >> Yes. >> My favorite scene. >> Okay. >> I'll tell you my favorite scene. >> Okay, okay. Maybe, okay. You go first. Are you going to go first? You go first. >> You go first. >> I will say just because it does live out my K-Drama fantasy. I love to hang out with Cliff. >> Yeah. >> That was what I was going to say. >> Okay. >> That was so fun. >> Twins is really nervous. >> No. >> You look like a butterfly. >> Like, gorgeous. >> Dang. >> The angle of you, like, like, holding on. >> I can hold that thing. >> Yeah, right. >> Is that the thumbnail? >> It should be. >> That will be the thumbnail, yeah. >> It should be. >> I think it will. Because you had the challenge because you were lifting me. So now they do it up angle. >> All the way. >> But you still slayed and looked so good. >> Thank you. >> You looked great from every angle. The little, like, slow motions. I'm going to show it to you. >> Because that's, like, every K-Drama moment to, like, say something. Like a danzel in distress, you know? >> I was just like, you kind of knew the genre. >> It was so cool. >> I was just like, oh, okay. I don't know if you knew. >> No, but I love that scene. >> I mean, it was so good. I mean, it was so good. I did originally, like, I remember DM. It's in his name's Song Kang. I think he's the one on the side. >> Song Kang? >> Yeah. I was like, maybe he'll be in the 20 million followers. >> Don't even like this casually. >> If you're not reading my DM. I think he's reading it either. So I was like, okay, maybe not that. But then you -- >> Fair enough, fair enough. >> A lot of them didn't know. >> No, no, no. >> Go for Song Kang. I know. >> I don't want to meet Song Kang. >> No, no. >> No. >> No. >> I'm not going to meet Song Kang. I'm not going to meet Song Kang. What does it mean? It means, "Mangnen Pang Song." It means, "Mangnen Pang Song." That was our first scene, yeah. That was the first scene, there was so much fun. And we didn't close the whole mouth down. That was people filming. But they were just like bypassers, just like taking content. They were excited to do. They were like, wait a minute, what? Yeah. It was open. But we shut it down. We literally shut it down. Yeah, we're in. So iconic. Oh, the pink tile. Oh, yeah. Ballaboo. Ballaboo. I love the colors of the arcades. Right. Mukbang. Oh, mukbang. Oh, that's so cute. We finally got our ending shot. Our ending fairy. Yes. Yes. But it was all a dream. It was all a dream. It was just a TV show. Where is it? Or a sequel right here. Or maybe you live in the TV. Yeah. Well, that's what we are right now. We're inside this TV. We are in this. Hello. Out to the TV. Thank you so much. Thank you. That's what it's called, right? We should end it. We should end it with an ending fairy. BuzzFeed had me do an ending fairy. And I was like, what's ending fairy? Because I'm new. I'm still new to the game pop world. Ending fairy now. You're watching Justfish. Bye. Just. Yeah. Thanks. And the awkward, like, three-second pause. Yeah. Out of breath. I love you too. Thank you so much.