‘Just One of the Guys’ With Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt, and Joanna Robinson

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The Rewatchables is brought to you by The Ringer Podcast Network. That's Joanna Robinson. You can find her on House of R, The Ringer Podcast Network. True. There's a lot of R stuff happening these days. You mean. Thrones. Thrones is back. Dragon something. Not just playing in your sauna anymore, also now on HBO. Are we in the 1200s? What century are we in? That's a great question. It's a great question. Kyle Brandt. Hey, bud. I don't know how many Rewatchables for you now. Are we over 20? Yeah, I think so. Wow. Only the second we've ever done in person. Yes. The first we've ever done in a three-person group. Absolutely. Are there jackets if you go over 20? Three-timers? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The 20-timers, yes. The 20-timers club? That's a great idea. We should mention your shirt. Do you want to talk about the shirt really quick? This is our friends at Kuroko who make our favorite movies. I think. How many Rewatchables I've done, Bill? Like 80% of them are made by these people, including a little film called Over the Top. It's an arm wrestling movie based on truck drivers, and we did it on the show. Right. And so I have the shirt, and I brought a housewarming gift for Bill. I've never been here before, but I brought you a Kuroko shirt as well. Yeah, we became fascinated by this production company, which seemed like a combination money laundering. It's very shady. The Middle East is involved. It's the best. And they went under. There was a documentary about them. Yeah. They really were our spirit animals. Why are you wearing the shirt so you guys can be twins? Well, because he's wearing it. Okay. And you know what? They make really good movies. I don't know about the business. They make damn good movies, though. Well, we wanted to do something really good, especially with Netflix coming up. Yeah. You and I have been circling this one for years. I asked Joanna for a list. I was like, you know, you're going to be in town more. Give me your top 10. Did I put this on my top 10 list? You put it on the list. That sounds not true. You did. Okay. It's on there. Okay. And then now we're all together. Just One of the Guys is next. Just One of the Guys, 1985. The rewatchable everyone's been clamoring for, right? It was on HBO, I think, for 10 straight years after it came out. It's an unbelievable movie. It has become a beloved movie in my family. For some reason, my kids love this movie. They love it. There's like five, six 80s movies they absolutely love. This is one of them. What else is on the list? You know, Breakfast Club, Secret Admirer, The Karate Kid. Sure. Can't Buy Me Love is probably number one. We walked into your house today. I just expected Limitless to be on. I was kind of disappointed it wasn't. Might have watched some of it yesterday to get ready for the pod. This is a movie that probably would not be made in 2026, or if it was made, it would be a little different. A little different. Yeah. Why do we love this movie, Kyle Brandt? Because it's tough to stick the landing on a journalism movie based almost entirely on tits. Very difficult to do. You just don't see them much. And you know, as a fan of the show, Bill, I'm a huge Rewatchables nerd. There's always a lot of talk about the hang. What is the hang like? And as an adult watching this movie, the hang is so fun because there's almost no adults. There's very few teachers. It's just young, pretty, funny people running around and all of them are just trying to get laid. There's such a sexual energy here. And the origin story for a lot of us for this movie goes back to a very special place, about two seconds of this movie. It's about 100 minutes long. There's two seconds that really, really resonate for me. And that's why it keeps me coming back. And it was a shocking, shocking moment the first time you saw it. Because it's a PG movie. It was a high school movie. They never did stuff like that. There's so many reasons I love it. That's not true. I mean, there's surprise tits all the time in 80s comedies. You're just watching something and all of a sudden there's like, there's boobs. Yeah, so, all right, let's talk this out. Let's go right to the main event. It's fine. What are we doing? What are we doing here? We have the award. Jamie Lee Curtis, Trading Places. Whoa! Exactly. What's this doing here? No, but I'm talking like Breakfast Club. Sure. Sixteen Candles. John Hughes didn't do it. The John Hughes, those ones didn't really do it. I guess when you moved into The Secret Admirer, they tried to do it. Can't Buy Me Love didn't do it. So it would be like 50-50. In this one, it just seemed like, it's actually a plot device. And leads to one of the funniest. Maybe. Well, maybe. We'll talk about some of the research with that. Leads to one of the funniest lines, I think, anyone said in one of these movies that was unintentionally funny. But it's just a movie that would not exist now. So we were talking about HBO before we started recording. We didn't have HBO. So I didn't watch this on HBO. And I didn't watch this on VHS. I watched it on Comedy Central, which means my cut had no tits in it. Oh, what? So I didn't know until. Oh, so it was like a quick cut just to his reaction. Yeah, his reaction shot. That's like Top Gun, but there's no planes. Like, what is that for us? That's what we went to an info. Until we started researching, I didn't know that this was like with Fast Times as like an all-time or freeze-frame 80s movie. I didn't know that. Love to know. So I separated my 80s movies I love into five different groups. I'm just glad you're here for this. I like these groups. Let's go. I got some groups. Go ahead. Here's the great group. Breakfast Club, Fast Times, Risky Business. Like movies that kind of transcended where we were in the 80s. Okay. The huge group. Sixteen Candles, Ferris Bueller, Karate Kid. Just big, big, big-ass movies. Seminal, yes. That still have legs to this day. The sports. Vision Quest, All the Right Moves, Lucas, where there's like some sort of sports angle. The horny, crazy movies. Class, Weird Science, Teen Wolf. Movies that are just like, there's probably cocaine involved when the script got approved. Teen Wolf is a movie that I don't know how it got made. Same here. I put Revenge of the Nerds in there too, even though it's technically a college movie. Is that coming? No. My last category, my last category is Perfect. Perfect? Okay, I like this. Secret Admirer, Can't Buy Me Love, and Just One of the Guys, where it's just like, these are movies that just belong to the 80s. Yes. And that's it. I don't think they make sense even three years later, three years earlier. They have like a spirit to them that I like. They don't take themselves too seriously. You know they're going to end up with the people you want to end up with in the end. And they're just going to be ridiculous the entire time. And I think those were the three out of everything. Maybe Weird Science maybe gets thrown in there too. I don't know. That's in the horny category. When we get to like picking nits and unanswerable questions, they're endless for this movie. The premise is unbelievable. It doesn't matter. We're having a great time. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Well, Joyce Heiser, there's this whole dialogue that came out of this movie that I wasn't aware of of how important it was to like trans people, to the gay community, that I just, in the 80s, it was like I just, I love the little brother. I think he's the funniest. He's basically Bill Murray. He's amazing. But then when they talk about it, like the director, Lisa Gottlieb said, you don't appreciate how much this film means to many generations of young people, male and female. For women, it was about bonding with their mothers or older sisters. For gay women and transgender women, it was about seeing a performance of female maleness that I had no idea existed. But then it turns out we're the savior of this. Blah, blah, blah. Did you see any of this stuff happen out of this movie? I've, like, in doing research for this, I've heard that that's the case, but I think more overwhelmingly, it's guys being like, I rented this from the video stores for those two seconds that I could watch. That's kind of how I feel. That was my takeaway, too. But it can be all those things, you know? Maybe it can be everything it was. I respect so much what you said. I wish that I had been part of that. But I was nine, and at the end, just bam. I can't tell you when she, it's, I didn't even blink when Bruce Willis is a ghost compared to my feeling here. Kyle D'Souza, a zero. Terry ripping it off for Rick. I was like, what the hell just happened? I know. Going for Rick? Honestly, it's even bigger than you think. And I thought about this before this pod. And I'm sorry I'm being so pervy, Joe, but I honestly think that it might have been the first naked breasts I ever saw in my life. Because I was, like, eight years old. I don't think I had seen a Playboy at eight, and we didn't have the HBO in my mom's house before my parents got divorced. I can't, I wasn't like, when it happened, I wasn't like, yeah, I was like, whoa. It's like I saw an alien. And so it's, like, that just set me off on a path. It wasn't just like a gratuitously horny moment. It was like a real turning point for me as a kid. It was so shocking that that happened. I'd never seen that before. I mean, that's just like, those movies exist for all of us. And I think that, like, that's not an unreasonable way to think about a movie. And I think that this movie in particular was so interesting. The fact that there's, like, a female director in this movie. I was thinking about this, that, like, Lisa Gottlieb directed this movie. Amy Heckerling directed Fast Time. So, like, the two freeze-frame movies of the '80s were directed by women which I think is really interesting but I love that Terry when she's in the locker room is like sneaking peeks at like all the dicks that are walking past her she likes some women she doesn't like others you get two towels I'm looking at nothing the two towel guy this is based on William Shakespeare there's a level of sophistication that is more than just boobs there's something going on here it's twelfth night well then there's some workplace stuff that makes sense in 85 and I'm not sure you know like basically no you can't win this contest you're a woman but in 1985 it was actually like oh yeah that would happen and now you watch and you're like oh that first of all the teacher would get fired the contest somebody would protest like that first teacher who's like did you see her legs and her tits you should keep her back that should be her first expose at the sun that guy was suggesting they fail her just to keep her and then even the nice teacher's like you know you really shouldn't be saying that here like say that afterward wanna get some coffee? careful where you say that sir oh what a moment I mean one of the cool things first of all I think Joey Sizer is great in this movie it's one of those performances where you're like I don't know why there weren't like five of these for her what was missing there's some interesting research about her some research on that but I think this is one of the only like woman dresses as man movies or TV shows that is like I actually think she's convincing as Terry they say they really want because Karate Kid they were filming I don't know if it was out yet and they really wanted her to look like Ralph Macho so cool she looks like Ralph Macho looks like Ralph Macho in my notes before we got to the Karate Kid line that's in this movie and before I saw that they like used him as the model for her I think she's genuinely good in this movie I think she's great I don't really understand you don't agree do you not agree I have some thoughts on some other people who could have played the role there's a part really early on where she's arguing with the teacher it's a rough scene there's a part where I think she forgets her line and she stumbles and they just kept it in it's not great I actually think I agree that it only gets really good once she like starts doing the I'm dressed as a guy we're talking about again this is Shakespeare this is the character Viola it's been played by Judi Dench and Anne Hathaway like Eddie Redmayne and Joyce Heiser and she's doing her damn best okay to put it this way she has a lot to offer that maybe they don't or maybe they do but I think she's doing her best she's doing her best we'll put it that way Kyle saying this is Viola is like the highlight of my week this is really good I'm an English major I'm an English major too I don't get to throw it on the table much I think she's alright alright we're split on Joyce Heiser but we're not split on Billy Jacoby who's one of the great comedic geniuses of the 80s you know what's so weird is I was like okay this guy's been in a million things he's like a face of the 80s to me and then I went and looked up and I was like wait no he's in this and Parker Lewis can't lose which I also watched but it was just based off of me re-watching this movie that I thought of him as like he was in a million of these movies but he wasn't he's so good in this he's fantastic I would say maybe 10 or 12 re-watchables episodes ago probably 2 or 3 years in real time we got on a sidetrack about this Bill and you were like I think he is the funniest person of the 80s and I was like crazy Bill being funny I'm like funnier than Eddie Murphy and Bill Murray you're like yes and then I re-watch it now I'm like holy shit he is so fucking good he's so good every word every scene the character we are introduced to this character the first time you see him on screen this kid is at breakfast having pizza a coke and a sideways playboy getting in some smut before he even goes to school like nobody looked at playboy breakfast he did and I'm like this guy's a legend okay first of all the playboy budget on this movie is incredible but also I didn't know this that Coca-Cola owned Columbia pictures at this moment at the time when they made this movie so that's why all the beer cans just say beer on them but like there's Coca-Cola cans everywhere Joe interesting well you bring the Shakespeare and I'll bring the product placement you know me and my college roommate Jacko we used to watch this movie because it was on Comedy Central all the time we'd always get mad at the edit we were always like we just couldn't believe this guy wasn't a bigger star and my son who loves this movie and we watched it Tuesday night and afterwards he's like dad why wasn't that guy in more movies like he wasn't like he said it unprompted he wasn't asking he wasn't asking ironically he was like genuinely confused I agree why he wasn't in because like from the moment he comes in he's throwing 105 miles an hour even like when he doesn't have lines like there's one like her friend that's sitting on her bed and he sits next to her and then he just like tries to make a pass and she hits her hand but he's just like in heat almost like it's almost like watching a dog at a park trying to hug legs he was like 15 I think when he made this movie I mean his first line during the cafeteria he comes in he sits down and just goes you are so hot like right in her ear and then he keeps trying this move where he blows in her ear he totally like read about it in like penthouse forums or something crazy he's every single second and it's not like I'll tell you this now I struggled with the Dion waiters because he's definitely not he gets 25 shots he's in a lot of scenes and he's awesome in every one of them I have my favorite scene of his but I love them all the director said she was talking about casting everybody was nuts about Joyce nuts about Casey Clayton and then I cast Billy he walked into my office red and I said forget about it I have 14 year old Bill Murray in my office we're casting him that's a quote I really agree he kind of is 14 year old Bill Murray did you watch the like 30th anniversary Q&A panel that they did was he there yeah he was there and he's just like that on the panel like now like 30 years after this movie so maybe he just couldn't shut it off I'm saying do you have a project for him oh wow is he working is he out there I don't have I'm gonna go through his career here okay he changed his name to Billy Jane yeah age 17 which I think was his real name he's not William Jane he did a lot of TV movie stuff recurring role apparently in Silver Spoon season 4 and 5 I don't wasn't watching at that point Parker Lewis can't lose was his other big one yeah stopped acting in 2010 appeared in Milf Manor a reality show on TLC Milf Manor 2023 yeah 23 that's just 20 minutes ago that's tough that was the last time Milf Manor being the last credit on your list it's a reality series yeah it's tough I gotta ask Craig even though Craig don't step on how you felt about this movie yeah do you think Billy Jacoby was 15 year old Bill Murray respectfully I don't think he quite got to Bill Murray level I would say he's trying 100 miles an hour is correct he is he's putting his whole energy into this role Craig hated this movie I love when Craig starts sentences with respectfully then we're gonna have a long day he can talk about Joyce and say she's alright and that's fine I know I'm trying to respect Joyce because I like her work but I bet I spent a lot of time scumbag hey suck your own eat me hey same to you butt face mom says hi mom says hi you can't he's just ripping him off Linda wait I vacuumed for God's sake Linda oh that one's good would it make any difference if I said I was hung like a bear it's fantastic he's ripping him off it's just dude it's a heater the scene where he explains how to scratch your balls yeah it's so funny and so accurate because he's like he basically says like sometimes there's like a level one scratch and he's like get in there move it around that's what we do that is so accurate sometimes you gotta get some air in there and it's like I just love how committed he is to that scene yeah and like when you watch that scene like it's kind of meta like you want to do it it's you're sitting there watching like he's so exactly spot on with it I love that part not to compare him to Chevy Chase and Fletch but I'm going to compare him to Chevy Chase and Fletch where Chevy Chase the whole movie is just like I'm going for this guys I'm never breaking but I'm just going to go for it every scene and if I go too far just kind of yank me back and then we have young Billy Jacoby here just going for it and never never even coming close in any capacity to this ever again which I just don't understand he talked about being on the set he was 15 and his only shopper on the set was his sister who everyone said partied harder than he did so like there might be some party yeah it's possible I was going to do for my flex the Sasha I was going to do Billy Jacoby for my flex so maybe I'll just save it well it was just like what went wrong with this kid's career in the 80s isn't the answer usually it's right in the vortex of I did an incredible Joyce Heiser deep dive I can't believe how much time I spent on it Joe probably knows some of it because Joe's a big researcher but she dated Bruce Springsteen for almost five years okay go on that's why those there are Bruce Springsteen posters in the bedroom in the movie he saw her at a party in LA in 1978 on his tour and asked Gary Busey to introduce them and she was immediately in and she traveled with him for the rest of the tour Busey meet cute? Busey set up wow she dated him for five years he visited the set of this movie and then well they did and they Clayton Roaner said Bruce got a little jealous with the kissing scene I'm not positive he might have milked that story she apparently dated David Geffen wasn't able to confirm that one but that was in there she was close with Jack Nicholson I'm clear if they dated and then dated Warren Beatty and lived with him for a year and a half yeah I went in because I have star the Warren Beatty autobiography she's interviewed like yeah she's in it a lot like she I love you did the work and read that book she was she really he was really smitten by her uh-huh like and and really settled down and was like trying to make her like and she knew like what a dog he was Springsteen Nicholson Come on. And Busey's name was mentioned, too. Jesus. She was Jimmy Smith's girlfriend on L.A. Law for two years, which was a big show. She said, Kyle, glad you're sitting down. Go on. I tested for volunteers and lost to Rita Wilson. I turned down a role in Eddie and the Cruisers, but my biggest career disappointment was The Sopranos. I tested for Dr. Melfi. It was between me and Lorraine Bracco. No. Holy shit. That's in the research. She's sitting there with Tony, talking about his mother and everything. Oh, my God. I never knew that. Joyce Heiser as Lorraine Bracco. I mean, as Dr. Melfi in place of Lorraine Bracco. I actually really like it. This isn't as juicy as The Sopranos. That's incredible. But I did some detective work, because she talked about a show that she turned down, but she wouldn't name the show. She was like, it was a big one, but I turned it down because they disrespected her in her audition or something like that. But then she's like, but later, Martha Coolidge, who directed her in Valley Girl, brought me in for a cameo. CSI. CSI. I think she was offered the Marge Helgenberger role. Wow. What a career. That's a lot of what ifs. Because Lorraine Bracco was apparently offered Carmella. And she said, I've already played the gangster's wife when I was in Goodfellas. I don't want to be Carmella. I want the shrink. So then that led to Edie Falco getting it. Goddamn, that would work. But if Lorraine had been Carmella, then who's Nurse Jackie? What happens to Edie Falco's career? That's true. Dominoes upon dominoes. She stays on Oz. She just stays on Oz for like five years. Imagine if Dr. Melfi came into a session with Tony Sperano when I just dressed as a guy. So I'm like, so tell me about your mother, Tony. Hey, yo. But you do think Joyce is really good. I can tell. Yeah, she's coming around. Yeah, I like her. She was one of my 175 crushes in the 80s. Yeah. And apparently, was more of a smoke show in real life because Springsteen in 1978 and then Warren Beatty, she just must have been absolutely fetching in person. Oh, fetching. Is my guess. What a charming word. Like, what a combo. Like, who else in the world could have dated those two? She was a trained dancer growing up, so. Really? Yeah. Well, I mean, the odds are that Beatty saw this film. It was like, I don't know about the movie, but like, who is that? The way that they start this movie, think about the opening shot of the movie. Incredible, incredible figure. I love that Kyle's premise here requires that Warren Beatty went to the theater to see just one of the guys. By himself. Probably a private screening. He made $11 million total and one of those was Warren Beatty. She was also the star of Dan Hartman's video for I Can Dream About You, which is a pretty big movie. Oh, is that the I Can Dream? Yeah. That's on goes. I like that. We're not done with setting up the movie because we didn't talk about the Billy Zabka bully trilogy yet. Talk about it. Come on, Bill. Karate Kid, this, right into Back to School, which, he really lost his bully energy in Back to School. Chaz? Yeah, like Keith Gordon beats him up in Back to School and then he like, Screw you, Melon! Yeah, he flubs the big dive, like, but he did have the bigger mullet. This one, he's lifting up tables. He is, yeah. Torturing nerds left and right. Don't you think, if you were Mr. Zabka's representation back then, Karate Kid is a massive hit. You're a big part of it. You're zagging? Well, you take one role, it's Greg Toland. It's like the next year. That's the next movie he does is this movie after Karate Kid. And then when the role comes in for Back to School, don't you want to say, no, no, no, no. Yeah, Billy. Let me be the Robert Downey part. Yeah, I'll be anything. Or like, I'm saying, in this movie, his first movie after Karate Kid, he's fighting someone on the beach just like he does in Karate Kid. It's like, I'm ready for Kevin to do the crane kick. Like, it's ridiculous. And he should drop the radio and Elizabeth Shue. It's so similar. And I wish I could reach in there and be like, Billy, pick something else, dude. He was, he was talking about how playing a bully, he's like, you're just waiting for my characters to go inside a punch bowl. That's all you want is for my character to meet the punch bowl at some point in all of his movies. Why did High School seem so perfect as a movie and TV location in the mid 80s? What was it about whatever was going on? it was so new because we didn't do, they didn't do it in the 70s. And so then it was like, guess what? Teens have sex. Teens like do drugs. And it's not like in the forbidden Brooke Shields. kind of way. It's just like normalized, right? You come home after school, you have a beer, a generic beer, I guess, with your pal. And so then I think it was just so new and exciting. And then by the time you get to the 90s, can't hardly wait happens. It's great. But like, it's a little bit more expected. But the 80s, it just felt like with Porky's and Revenge of the Nerds, like we're really pushing the envelope. Just the music was so perfect for high school kids. Now, they don't play a lot of music in this movie, but all of the posters are represented. There's all the, you mentioned the Bruce Springsteen and there's a U2 poster in Buddy's room. Like, it was great, great high school music shit then. And John Hughes ran with it. This movie has it too. He had one U2 poster and 700 pulled out. There's the edge just staring next to Brandy's, you know, on the beach. It's incredible. I didn't know one person who ever would have done that in the 80s with their room. Outlandish. That was what was so funny about it though. Even if the parents are mysteriously out of town for two weeks? that would be, it's insane behavior. He uses it as wallpaper. No one did that. You don't put those posters up on the wall. You put like a Spud web poster or something, right? Be respectful. Don't put those posters. She reads Vonnegut. That's true. You know. Hates chemical waste against that. Hates toxic waste. He is such a funny character. In 2015, Entertainment Weekly did their 50 best high school movies ever. And this was ranked 48, which I was personally offended by. Yeah, too low. Way too low. Where would you put it? Much higher. Bill, there's a whole pot in that. There's a whole pot in that. Is it in the top 20 easily? Is it in the top 10? For me? Yeah. I mean, for me personally, it would be in the top 12 or 13. But there's been a lot of ones in the last 20 years, though. So it'd be tough. You'd really have to. Okay. This could be a good segment for me. It's so, it's, it's so. Does Superbad necessarily count as a high school movie? Yeah, of course it does. Because we're not really in high school. Yeah, they're graduating. It's a graduation party. How many actual high school scenes are in Superbad? A ton. There's like the cooking class in school. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. The science room and everything. It's like kind of a one crazy night movie, but it's like we're leaving high school. Yeah, that's fair. All right. If Can't Hardly Wait is a high school movie, then Superbad definitely is. What else from your generation? For high school movies? Easy A. Easy A is a good one. She's the Man, which is the remake of this movie to a degree. Craig was like, is this the OG She's the Man? I was immediately offended. I mean, that's, that is, that's correct. It is the OG She's the Man. I've not seen She's the Man. I'll never see She's the Man. Do respect. You've never seen it? No. I have. I have seen it. It's a much, well, as an English major, it's a much more direct Twelfth Night adaptation. Yeah, that's correct. They're actually like using Julia Stiles. They're using like character names. The love triangle is more accurate. Yeah. Anytime I would ever be spending free time watching She's the Man, I could be watching just one of the guys. So that's what I would do on Tubi. It's true. I'll never see it. I mean, say what you will about Joyce, but she's, you know. You know what's funny about, she's the man's Amanda Bynes, right? Yeah. Yeah. So when I moved out here. Amanda Bynes looks demented in drag as a teenage boy. Like absolutely demented. Not as realistic as Joyce. No, Joyce, I think, looks possible. Also Mean Girls. Yeah, of course. Mean Girls is legit. When I moved out here and I was working for Kimmel and Kimmel had like a nine or ten year old daughter and like a seven year old son and they were watching all those shows and I didn't have kids yet. Mm-hmm. And he was talking about Amanda Bynes and he's like, she's so freaking talented. Like her show's amazing. Like she's like, watch out for her. It's going to be. But it kind of peaked where she's then. She had a bunch of personal problems. She has personal problems. But She's the Man was like the one movie she made, right? No, there's the one where like her dad, like Colin Firth is her dad. Oh, like that. Like a sad one? No, no, no. Isn't she the president's daughter? Oh yeah, My Day with the President's Daughter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the Amanda show was big. Yeah. She had her own like variety show. And all that. All that stuff's her. All that, yeah. She really had a moment. What a Girl Wants? I thought, I thought Lindsay Lohan was, this was one of my hottest takes probably in the last 20 years. I genuinely think she should have like won Oscars. I thought she was like a great actress. For Confessions of a Drama. I'm saying when she got older. Yeah, yeah. I thought she had like all the talent to actually go on and do some stuff. I got to talk to Dennis Quaid once and I asked him about Lindsay Lohan and The Parent Trap. And he like got really serious and he's like, I think the most talented person I've ever worked with. Yeah. He's like, Lindsay Lohan, you work with everybody. He's like incredible. Yeah. It's like that talented. And then even when she hosted SNL the first time, and she like crushed it, she could do imitations, but I think she just went off the rails unfortunately. She's in a sketch, she's in a Harry Potter sketch where she comes back and Hermione's blossomed over the summer. It is so fucking funny. It's a great sketch. But I mean the story is like all these people came into Hollywood too young without proper, you know. No question. Without proper supervision. I have some good Billy Jacoby stuff for later. This movie was directed by Lisa Gottlieb, co-written by Dennis Feldman and Jeff Franklin. Two artists. Jeff Franklin of full house fame. Jeff Franklin probably has more money than any of us. Oh, you're right. Good job. Budget, unknown. They said five million. Lisa Gottlieb has said five million in interviews. This movie looks like they spent 600 grand. It's just, and I don't mean that as an insult. No, no, no. It's just so low key. Most of it was on the beach scene. Yeah. It made 11.5 million dollars. Yeah. Right. And then was on HBO for. And a huge rental. HBO Comedy Central rental. Everything. You know what was a huge part of this for me? A huge part. Fantastic poster. Fantastic. I used to go to the video stores. Benny's Video in LaGrange, LaGrange, Illinois. And you'd scan the shelves and you would get to one where there's Terry in the locker room. Yep. With a football helmet over each breast like looking very pleased about it. And I was, it was so sexy and so perfect. And I was like, it was everything I want in the world is right there. And I would rent that movie all the time. Who, who out of anyone in these 80s, 90s movies, if you met in real life, would you be embarrassed to meet? What do you mean embarrassed? Like flustered? Yeah, flustered. Oh, okay. Because Joyce is up there for me. I'd be flustered to meet Joyce. Andrew McCarthy. Andrew McCarthy? Yeah. I mean, I still think it's Judd Nelson. I think he's the coolest character in any 80s high school movie. But you'd be meeting Judd Nelson now. Yeah. I wouldn't be flustered, I don't think. I'd be excited to meet him. I think if I was meeting John Bender with the fingerless gloves and all that, I think I would be. We were a big mannequin household, so Andrew McCarthy. Rembrandt and I, in 2014, Rembrandt and I were in Boston and we went to a conference that Thelma from Good Times was from. We both loved it. I loved her as a kid. Yeah. And we got a picture with her and we were both like, we were on a high for like five hours after. We were so excited. She looked great. She still looked great. We were like, this picture. Yeah, it was awesome. You met Thelma from Good Times, wow. And I was like, I loved you. I just absolutely, as a little kid, just full-fledged, absolute love. Yeah. I think she's been hearing it her whole life, but it was great. I met Nell Carter from Give Me a Break. Freaked me out. No, I didn't. I wish I would have, though. I loved it. Oh my God. Craig, who's your number one? If you met somebody, who would you be the most flustered by? Like right now or in their prime? No, right now. You'd have to meet them now. We're talking females or males? It could be anybody. Wow. There's like the Leo. Are you asking him? You need to give him parameters. There's like the Leo DiCaprio. I'm sure I'd be intimidated if I was just chatting with Leo DiCaprio. That's not a fun answer. Well, you want me to say like Margot Robbie? I think he means from like- Oh, Margot Robbie. Sure. No, no, no. Emma Stone? Let's pick like comedies that you watched when you were a teenage boy. You had to have been a kid when you liked them. Yeah. When I was a kid, Blake Lively in the movie Accepted was a big deal for me. You ever seen that movie? Great. Bad dance. There you go. Yes, that's a great answer. Big one for like 14-year-old Craig. Team Blake and the Baldoni-Blake feud. Right there, Craig. Okay. Well, I don't know about that. Yeah. You're on record now. Sorry. No comment on that. We know. They call you to the stand. You're going to be subpoenaed. Team Lively Reynolds. That's a good movie, Accepted. Have you seen Accepted? Not technically high school, technically college, but it's good. I think I have. It's not good. I think I've seen every movie. Just along, right? It's not good. It's not good. They make up their own college. Yeah, South Harman Institute of Technology. The shitheads. We're going to take a break. Okay. And when we come back, we're going to go through the categories, including a couple new ones that either of you have been involved with. I can't wait. This episode is brought to you by Truvia. Sweeteners are like movies. The best ones don't leave an aftertaste. That's why Truvia Alolos plus Stevia Sweetener and Monk Fruit Sweetener is a smooth, balanced tri-blend that delivers sugar-like sweetness with zero calories per serving and no aftertaste. 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You have one that's like peanut gallery ladies night. Yeah. That's what I think. Kyle? It's got to be in a basement. I think it's like four buddies. Yeah. I think it's dudes in a basement. Like grown up sleepover. You know, like you have some root beer, it's video games and you watch just one of the guys. I had peanut gallery pregame for this. Yeah. I was really impressed that you watch, that you like made this a family movie in your household. I think that. Yeah. It's kind of cool. I genuinely think that's great. When you told us that you were watching it with, with your son and your wife. He loves this movie. I was like, what do they think? You're like, oh, we've been watching this for years. He loves it. So. My kids really genuinely love these 80s movies. But I don't know if it's because I was just banging them but we watched all of these. You gotta bring them up right. You gotta bring them up right, Bill. Anytime I do the pod, my wife always asks, what's the movie? She had not even heard of this movie. She's a little younger than me. But before I came over here, Bill, I had lunched with some old college friends. Yeah. Dudes just like me. And they were watchables guys. And they're like, oh, fuck, what movie were you doing? I was like, do you guys remember just one of the guys? Fuck yeah. Oh yeah. The scene at the end is incredible. Like they, they knew the movie and they liked it. They didn't say the one based on Shakespeare? No. They said, 12th day. Those are all finance guys. That leaves that to me. It's so cool that she got that job at the newspaper. It's really cool. Journalism. She grew a lot as a person. There's a lot, right. You know? Most rewatchable scene. I will give you Buddy's first scene, which includes lines like, I've had lots of sex. It's just now I'd like to try with a partner. Awesome. I'm 15 years old. In two years, I reached the peak of my sexual powers. And horny will kick embarrassment's ass anytime. That's a really good one. Which I think is a high school yearbook wrote quote. Is it too late? Was it January right now? Is it a good life lesson? Yeah, you can submit the yearbook stuff now, right? Horny will kick embarrassment's ass anytime. Buddy, what was her last name? Griffith. Buddy Griffith. Yeah. Just throw that in in the yearbook. Nobody will know. Wait, say it one more time. That was my philosophy on the real world. Some wisdom in there. Would you get that? My parents were thrilled. Would you get that as a tattoo, Bill? It's too many words. Okay. What about as an act? Did embarrassment come back and kick horny's ass eventually? Yeah. With your real world state? Yeah. Don't underestimate embarrassment. It's strong. It's resilient. In the late rounds, it starts wearing you down. It does, yeah. Yeah. Buddy teaches Tara to act like a guy. I think that's, I mean. Fantastic. Move them around. All balls itch, it's a fact. Another possible yearbook quote. That's the line of the movie. Craig, I can't believe you didn't love this one. You don't know that. It's a small one, but Buddy's singing Slow Hand. They're just like, hey, Jacoby, we just need another minute. We're a minute short. Can you just cook? Buddy does algebra and drunk Terry comes home. Buddy stops by Terry's school. Thanks for the message, bud. The Kavina moment. Kavina. Yeah. Your touch is the reason I went through puberty. This also has Rick standing up to Greg. Uh-huh. Bold choice. Hell yeah. Non-violent, too. I think there's a reason we haven't talked about Rick very much so far in our group. Where does he get to? Joe, I just showed her some of her cards, I feel like. He's strong enough to lip tables and spill food. Greg Toland. Yeah. Were you a messy baby? Awesome. I like that asshole called being an asshole, too. Some of the writing in this is really good. Yep. Terry asked her friend to the prom and then Sherilyn Fenn shows up. We didn't talk about her. We didn't talk about her, either. Yeah, we haven't talked. Well, that is actually. I'm very surprised we haven't talked about Sherilyn Fenn. That seems. Jacoby, somebody comes into their house and he puts the horns on. Denise, what's your rush? Incredible. We're young. We're wild. The prom fight. Rick, Rick's had a jab game here. How'd you feel about that? Yeah. Where did that come from? Is that like a boxing gym training? Do you think it comes from his dance moves? You know who he likes to dance all by himself? Is that put him in condition to beat up the bully without any preamble to his ability to punch? It's incredible, though. He like he turns into like Brunel Sweet Pea Whitaker and he's just loading the compu box and he's just loading it with a right on Zabka's nose and then he finishes him. It's a straight jab and it's really impressive. Let's say that Terry and Buddy like wore him down a little bit and then Rick was able to finish the job. Oh, you think that sort of was? I don't know. I was trying to explain it. If we're doing fan service now, they would have Zabka sweep the leg. And then we'd be like, fuck yeah, Zabka. Cobra kind of dies. Here's my question. They filmed this movie in Arizona. Yeah. We're having a beach prom? I had a lot. That was in my unanswerables. What beach? So what the unanswerable for me is what state are we in? Well, the license plates say Arizona. It seems like we're in Arizona. Did they ever talk about it? They filmed it in Phoenix and Scottsdale. This is what they did in the 80s. You never knew where you were. I feel like it's cheap California. I think that's what they did. And they wanted it to be that Southern California thing, but they just shot it in Arizona for cheaper. Because they don't talk about being in Arizona. You just look it up and they shot it in Phoenix. But it's true. There's no like ocean or waves. Because Can't Buy Me Love is clearly Arizona. There's cactuses. Like they kind of own being in Arizona for that. I didn't bump it until the end when he drives up in the like rabbit or whatever. And it's like an Arizona license plate. And I was like, what the hell? We're in Arizona this whole time with a beach prom? You kind of never knew when you watch these movies in the 80s. The 90s, where anything was. Well, that's not true. Because the John Hughes movies have a clear sense of place. Well, that's it. And then there's like a lot of California stuff. But like E.T. when I was a kid. Sure. And I'm on the East Coast. I don't know where that is. I just know we might be in California. I don't know. I have no context of geography where we are. This should have been like a California movie, though. And I think if they had the budget, it would have been. Well, like Fast Times. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to do this later, but Greg. I kind of have a choke job in the fight. Even if you could say that the Griffith kids wore him down a little bit. Like he's been training for this his whole life. Somebody's directly challenged him. He's already gotten a good shot in him. He has a 28 degree lead. Knocked him down. He had a cold cock. He's got the gloves on. Here are my notes. His lift routine is actually pretty weak, right? He's lifting tables. Sure. And occasional benches. Right. Pressing literal benches, not actual weights. So this is like the Mike Tyson in the Buster Douglas fight where it's like the bully just got punched once and didn't have a plan. I don't think he actually, you know. So he's just never had a fight? I think probably that's the old thing. It's just, hey, listen, Biff Tannen goes down with one punch from Crispin Glover. You know, sometimes they get those bullies go down easy. I do have to shout out, though, like one of my top five favorite things about this movie is that Greg Tolan has bullying gloves that he puts on exclusively to bully. Yeah. And it's like when it's bullying time, like, hold on a sec. Let me get my gloves on. Yeah. He's like, they're driving gloves, fingerless bullying gloves. And it's such a fun, creative flourish that I've never seen before or since. It's so easy. I love how wearily all the nerds or whatever, like just lift up their lunch trays. They're like, it's time. It's about that time. When they fight in movies, they don't fight like they do on my Instagram algorithm when I get served fights outside by drunk people. That's usually like either they're swinging wildly or one of them attacks the other. Nobody's like doing the. No. Doing the. Bill, can you tell me a bit more about the drunk fights that you watch on your Instagram? Listen, once you watch two of them, they're just going to keep serving them to you. You can watch half of one in the parking lot for the rest of your life. That's it. World star. Is it like. People who have had a night out and tied one on or like. It can either be like there is some sort of mano a mano drunk people. But the best thing about those clips is you can start it and immediately be like guy on the left. You just you come in like you're like Max Kellerman. Do you think there's a guy on the left? He looks like he's going to win. And then sometimes there's an upset. You're like, whoa, guy on the right. Sometimes guy on the left gets folded. And what is it? If I click on, if I click for 0.5 seconds. I'm going to get you hooked on this. Even on. Even on like on Twitter, you go to the for you. And I was like, what is it about me? You think I want to see some guy get his face beaten in an alley? Show me a football video. It's always there. That's my algorithm, too. It's football videos. In the 80s movies. Sucker punch. People fighting in a parking lot. I think we craft it. Craig is a football guy. Do you get served drunk fights? I guess this is who I am. I honestly do. I do get some fights in my algorithm. So it's a football guy. Do you immediately do blink test of guy on the left, guy on the right? Sometimes I have to do like the quick scroll away just to tell the algorithm. Like, I don't need more of these. Because if you don't, you got to send a message to the algorithm. You got to tell it who's boss. Exactly. If you make eye contact with the algorithm, it's like, I got you. I wish I could turn down the algorithm strength. So do I. Tapped market of sports betting on drunk fights. Blink test bump fights? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're. Well, the worst algorithm thing that happened to me was I watched this tsunami video once. And then it just started serving me tsunami stuff. And I was like, how do I tap out of this? Tap out. Done. I was like, researching how to clean my cache. I was like, I never want to see this again. They don't ask you, are you enjoying the tsunami videos? No, no, no. And then, God forbid, you not only click on it. If you share it with someone, that's a tattoo. It's over. You're fucked. You're sharing this guy getting his head kicked in in a circle K? Yeah. I got you for life. You can't get rid of it. Next rewatchable scene. The famous scene. Which includes him just butchering Cyndi Lauper's pronunciation and calling it Lauper. Cyndi Lauper? Yeah, right. And I'm Cyndi Lauper. How did they not do a second take? I don't know. You know what? Great call. Why did they not stop? It's the mid-80s. On the panel, they asked him about that. And he's like, yeah, people still yell that at me. I'm so embarrassed by it. Oh, my God. And I think it was Billy Jacoby who was like, had you heard of the recording artist Cyndi Lauper before we made this film? That's the director's fault. I agree. Yeah. I agree. But there's 30 people on set. What is it? The Marion Cabretti cutting pizza with scissors award. Why didn't someone stop this? Cyndi Lauper is really. Cyndi Lauper was a house. It'd be like Cyndi Lauper. He likes saying Madonna instead of Madonna. It's Lauper. Lauper. And I'm Madonna. And he's supposed to be this thoughtful character who loves music and has all these records. Cyndi Lauper. Rick. Terrible. The big reveal. Yeah. Where do you get off having tits? Do you think that was written or ad-libbed by Clayton Roaner? I think they said there wasn't much ad-libbing on this movie. In the script. Accusatory sentence, too. He was pissed. He was. Big kiss. And then, it's all right. He has tits. He walks away. Mm-hmm. And then, Terry goes home and walks in on Buddy and starts telling him about the night. Buddy's sitting under the covers. That's really interesting. Really. He turned off the lights. Just, I mean, this was on all the time. And it was always a suck-in every time. It was really fun. I never really understood why Rick was so upset. Because he thought they, well, I'm not one to defend Rick, but, like, he thought that they were friends. They were pals. It was like a, it was a reaction. He had a reaction. You're allowed to have a reaction. Am I unanswerable about it? That is. Mm. I like the defense of Rick, though, is. Yeah. If you were hanging out with a dude, dude to dude for a couple weeks, you're killing brews, you're chasing girls, he's becoming your best friend in this new school. Yeah. Hanging out in bathrooms together. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Urinal talk. And then, you find out that it's a woman and it's kissing you. Could you recover like Rick does to then go and ostensibly date her? Or is it like, I spent two weeks with you as a platonic male friend. I can't go then. I will say. There's a scale. This is where we let down. I think it's pretty high on the scale, too. This is where we're letting down the Shakespeare adaptation, though, right? Because in Twelfth Night, Orsino is hot for her when she's in drag. So, like, there should have been some, like, like, confused attraction to her in her boy getup. So, in the most politically incorrect sports movie ever, right behind Joanna, Fast Break. Yeah. Swish is pretending to be a guy on the Cadwallader State basketball team. And DC Daisy is falling for Swish, thinking it's a guy, and then leaves the team because he's convinced he's becoming gay. Right. Then he finds out Swish is a woman. They don't even go near that in Just One of the Guys and have, like, Rick's, like, attracted to her. What does Channing Tatum do when she's the man? He's attracted to her, right? Yeah, there is, like, a weird energy between them that he doesn't quite understand. It's cool, though. Like, when Rick finds out before the reveal, he's like, it's cool, you're gay. Yeah, there's a little no homo from him where he's like, ugh. But then he's like, oh, yeah, you're gay. I get it. It's big right now because of the reveal in Netflix. And I've seen people assailing it for saying that's not realistic back in the 80s. And I'm like, watch what Rick did. Like, he was really cool about that. And I like that moment. I will say, Rick, when he comes in the end and he's like, let me do the asking out. Okay, okay, fine. Well, I gotta drive. I'm like, it's her car. Rick, you lost us. You totally lost us, Rick. As long as I'm driving. Okay, Rick. Also, Rick, you dressed like you were going bowling. There were no girls to be seen. You went out with the prom queen and Terry, who's the star. Right. It was a smoke show. Like, settle down. I know. The ticket drive. The ending, which includes that. Also, Buddy ends up on a motorcycle with a 40-year-old woman. Yeah. And that's how the movie ends? Yeah. My son, when we watched it on Tuesday, is like, dad, why did they do that? Like, he just didn't understand. I was like, I don't know. It's the 80s. They thought it'd be funny. Liz and I went back and watched that twice thinking, did we miss something? Is this character supposed to be somebody? She's literally a 40-year-old woman. Is this a fantasy of his that we didn't hear about? Don't you feel like her friend and niece hooked up with a 40-year-old prom band singer? Oh, yeah, dude. That's right. We had that, too. And then also, Rick's deflowering story is his mom's friend fucked him when his dad died. I forgot about that. My mom's friend made me feel good. What? Holy shit, should I call the cops? You were a child? Wait, I want to get into that because that's my flex. It's a book about medals award for the belatedly best quota exchange. Okay. They're talking about if they've ever lost their virginity. Terry goes, have you ever had sex? He's like, yeah, one time. And her weird New York accent. She's like, tell me about it. And he's like, just after my dad died, this friend of my mom's, I think she wanted me to cheer me up. And she did. And then Terry goes, is that your room over there? And they just never talk about that again. Awesome. That's like a whole movie, that quote. It's like, holy shit, what happened there? It explains a lot about Rick. This movie's the best. They're real fast and loose with all that. See, you're talking yourself into it. You love this movie. Atta boy. I don't know why Buddy gets on the back of a motorcycle with a soccer mom at the end of the movie with no helmet, no words exchanges, nothing. That's a motorcycle babe who has, who's been around is going to show him something. She's like. Yeah. That's what, back in the day, just the dream woman would appear out of nowhere for no reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dream woman. I didn't blink twice. This is a very 80s ending to a movie. Yeah. Was he the one who went on to do Milf Manor? Yes. That's it. Yes. You're like, origin story for Milf Manor. Right, origin story. Great call. Well, we know what most rewatchable was for Kyle and I. What do you have? I think it's him teaching her how to be a dude. The tube socks down the jeans, like that whole sequence. Okay. What's the most 1985 thing about this movie? I have a good one for this. Yeah. It's the inseam on Kevin's shorts when her college boyfriend, Kevin, comes over at the beginning of the movie. What a pull. He's like rocking Magnum PI short shorts. It's wild. See, I got to look for that. I somehow missed that. You just throw a dart at this movie and find anything. I have a really little one. One of the times that Billy's reading the magazine, the back of the magazine. Just saying reading a magazine. Charlton Cigarette. Less tar. They're bragging that they have less tar than the other brands. Like we have tar in our cigarettes for sure, but less than those guys. That was a huge deal back in the day. That's a good one. I had Terry's word processor. Sure. I had the whole concept of a high school student aspiring to be a newspaper writer. Sure. Journalism is aspirational. Buddy's sleeveless jeans jacket. I don't think you could walk outside in that now. For the back half of the movie, he's just in a parade of sleeveless button down things. Yeah. This was a look. It's like he looks like he's in Double Dragon. I don't know what his, it's either. He also looks. Flannel sleeveless? Yeah. Denim sleeveless? Denim sleeveless. Lumberjack type? I don't know what that was, but. But it's like a thing that he found at the end of the movie. He's like, this is my look. This is going to be my look. It's very Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead. Like, you know the brother in that movie who does like, the dishes are done. The dishes are done, man. And then Buddy in this movie is just sort of like, the dishes are done. You're right. The great C. Tom Howell stole the look for Secret Admirer. Same kind of thing. It was like this sleeveless jacket with the shirt underneath. Yeah. Hasn't been seen since. Even late 80s, nobody was doing this. C. Tom Howell. C. Tom. I've never heard of him. C. Tom Howell might have to come up later in the movie. C. Tom. He's 100% coming up later. I think I know where you're going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, all right. I have a couple more. High school kids dressing up like Trekkies? We don't do that anymore. Yep. Calling a beer a brewski? Twice. I don't remember what year that ended, but it was right around here. I also just don't know that teenagers did it ever, right? No. The prom band is very. This is like a great era for prom bands because we have Weird Science, we have Back to School, whatever the band that Rodney Dagefield hires. Oingo Boingo? I've been scouting that movie hard, by the way. I forgot to tell you. I'm all over it. There's the band in here. They all had like. They were all too old to be playing at the high school. They all had the high hair. They all had the weird guitars that had like little daggers on them and stuff. And they're playing originals, too. I like that. No cover. No Duran Duran. This is one of our tunes. Yeah. The two guys on stage, or two of the guys on stage, were like long-time drummers for Rod Stewart. That's a fun fact I learned about this. Thank God you're here. Really good stuff, right? I like that. Well, my winner for what's most 1985 thing about this movie is every single Debra Foreman outfit. She's the one, the prom queen who Rick falls for. Yes. There's one outfit she has that I don't even. There might have been like a four-week window where people were wearing that yellow outfit she has. I know. Where she's dressed. Basically like Madonna. Uh-huh. And then at that outfit, like, you couldn't wear that ever. Like, I don't even know if you could wear that ironically at an 80s party. No one would believe it. Do you mean Madonna? Madonna. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's aged the best? The opening of this movie is exactly like any porn you would have watched from the 80s if you actually watch it. It's like, she wakes up and it's like, just one of the guys. And with like terrible music and it's like, is this. Yeah, girls got something, boys ain't got, you know? What rating is that? What rating is this? Where are we? Yeah, yeah. Just in case. And you think there's going to be a doorbell and the guy's like, I'm here to fix the cable. And it comes on and, oh, wow, here we go. Boys don't got. What do you got? I have a bunch. I have a bunch, too. Joe and I were talking about this before the show. Having an older sibling whose friends come over is just one of the all-time adolescent things. Whether it's your older sister's friends or you go to a friend's house and he has an older sister and you're 14 and there's three 16-year-old girls watching. Like, it's Sodom and Gomorrah. Like, you can't imagine how sexy and how hot that is when you're a teenager. And this is what Billy goes through for the whole movie, Billy Jacoby. I love that. Yeah, you're in love with. And I'm an only child, but I had the friends who had the older ones. You're just in love with every friend they have. Yeah. Doesn't matter. We used to go to my friend's Mark house. Mark's older sister, Lisa, was like three years older. And we found out that she loved Ricard Noir. She just loved how it smelled. So before we go to Mark's house, we put on 50 scores of Ricard Noir. All over the place. Hey, Lisa, what's up? No. Are you wearing Ricard? And it was amazing. Yeah. Shout out, Lisa. Maybe people are better now than we were back then. Not keeping Ricard Noir a business. What else do you have? As someone who's from the Midwest, I fucking love outdoor high schools. Outdoor lockers, outdoor everything. That was unthinkable for where I went to school. That's a great point. They're just hanging at the lockers. There's sunshine behind them. There's cactus. Same thing in Camp I Me Love, outdoor. And then also the outdoor prom. Like, my prom was at the O'Hare Airport. Like, just absolute garbage. And they're on the beach with these lanterns and this food and this band. The outdoorness of it is really cool. I just don't think people had beach proms outside of movies. Definitely some liability issues. I grew up in California, like, Bay Area, California. You grew up in California, Craig. We didn't have beach proms. Well, he's throwing Terry into the ocean and no one comes to stop him. There's no faculties or anything. He's got Terry like, he's got like a stone cold stunner is coming. And it's like, just go ahead. As you said, there's no. There's no adults in this movie except for like. Yeah, they don't exist. It's the two teachers and they're the horniest people in the movie. Well, there's the bullying PE guy who also was like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Surprise jock. Regular surprise jock inspections. What do you have for what's aged the best? So, this is. Would you call this a sex comedy? Oh, yeah. Almost every scene is about someone wanting to get laid. It's horny. It's very horny. It's a horny comedy, but I don't. I don't feel like it's in the Porky's thing where they're gratuitously. Well, that's the thing. It's like Porky. There's like a bunch of sex comedies from the 80s that I think have aged really. Have aged really poorly. Like, Revenge of the Nerds, you're like, ugh. You know, like, blah, blah. I don't really want to watch this anymore. I think with like Fast Times, Valley Girl, directed by Martha. Like, these women directed sex comedies of the 80s. I think it's like a really interesting. I don't know. Like, a little more soulful. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. Like, there's nothing in this movie that makes me cringe in the way that some of those other 80s sex comedies make me cringe. John Hughes, I think, was able to pull that off with all his stuff. Even like, Word Science. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about. When we did that pod, that could have gone sideways. Kelly LeBrock has nothing but great things to say about John Hughes. About on that set and everything. Like, to your point, the Fast Times scene where it's Phoebe Cates and Jennifer Jason Lee and they're giving instructions on how to give a blowjob. Yeah. The fact that you know there was a woman directing that. Right. Like, I don't know. It's safe or something. Like, it feels more likable. More What's Aged is the Best for me. Just parents being gone for the entire movie. This was half of the plots in the 80s. When did they give up on this, Craig? Because parents wouldn't leave their kids alone. Like, this now. We have too much information. Yeah. I would never be like, hey, Ben. We'll see you in two weeks. Guard the house. Like, there's no way. But like. And we have cameras now, too. And you FaceTime them. And you call them. Yeah. Like, there's none of that. Like, 360. Why is he at BevMo? I mean, I don't know. That's true. Even like, when I was in middle school, high school, you could still kind of get away with that. There was no, like, FaceTime. It was kind of like, my parents are gone for the weekend. They can call me on my cell phone. But that's about it. My parents are gone for the weekend is one thing. My parents. The parents are gone for two weeks. Yeah. Two weeks. During the school year. I did have a couple friends where the parents did disappear for that long. Really? Yeah. Well, I think there's also an interesting, like. But it was like, that's where we just went. It was like, hey, Scott's parents are gone again. It kind of breaks the high school movie rule that Buddy and Terry didn't throw a massive rager at Kegger. Yeah, that's true. At Kegger. Yeah, they should have. Well, she was busy pursuing her journalism interests. I know. That's true. With a college boyfriend. Yeah. Kevin was like, pool party every day. I know. I know. I know. I know. Your parents are gone. That's true. There's an interesting, like, class thing going on in this movie, right? Like, Terry's, she's super rich. And, like, she goes to high school with other super rich kids. And then, like, Rick, like, she goes to this high school. Oh, she goes to the other high school. Yeah, the other high school. Yeah, she's at, like, the 50-1. But, like, she's like, I got plastic. Let's just go get you a new wardrobe, Rick. Like, don't worry about it. And it's just like, she's just very. You get another reason why Rick probably should have forgiven her a little bit faster. Yeah. Well, Rick. The girl's buying you clothes. She's in love with you. Your haircut looks. You've never had a girlfriend. He's like, I don't know. I don't like this. Your haircut might put you on a list. We need to fix it. Rick liked what he saw. He's like, have you heard. She's like, have you heard of a popped collar? Would you like to pop all of your collars for the rest of your life? More what's aged the best. The douchey, rich college boyfriend with a convertible who seems like he's 15 years older than our girl in high school is an 80s staple. They have this in Secret Admirer as well. I don't know why this was a recurring character. They all kind of had the same look. Can't buy me love. Classic Bobby. Bobby coming back with the that makes you a prostitute. Like, yeah, always a dick. They always have blow drying hair and they're always 33 years old. They always act like going to college gave them some sort of higher state of being. I imagine what a fucking loser you are if you're in college and like an athlete or in a frat and your girlfriend's in high school. Like, why don't you have a college girl or someone? Yeah, it's like status for her. Right. She thinks, well, this is like this is like, OK, is this movie about a woman opening her shirt and showing you her tits? Yes. Is this movie also about like a privileged, like rich girl who has a shitty boyfriend and doesn't realize it? Cook joke. Who like goes to another school. Go. Befriends the nerds, like meets a cooler guy, becomes a better writer because actually her article did suck. Yeah. And like learn something about herself. Learns about urinals. Yes. Where'd she get off having tits though, Jo? You know? Learns how to throw a jab when you're fighting on the beach. Just works a jab. Yeah. It's a long game. It's a long game. A couple more. Calling your dick Spike. Great. Just great for an 80s comedy. Calling your dick anything? Anything. Spike, even better. I'm laughing every time. Yep. I'd rather wallow in my virginity. Just a great line. Bullies who use insults like tulip and chum stains. Awesome. Well, that's another reason why this. What is tulip? Where did he even come up with that? Well, we're not dropping F slurs this entire movie. That's another reason why this movie's better rewatchable. They're not swearing everywhere. No, not just like the F bomb, like the F slur. Yes. Oh, I see. I see. Yeah. Okay, slurs. Right. So the soundtrack, I just want to shout out. The girl's got purpose. Girl's got something. Boys don't got. That guy's like, you need a song? He's like, yeah, we have 15 minutes to make the song. Just go. And he's like, I got it. No problem. Kicked it back. What a jam. And the other one there, you're like, you have two minutes. What's the title of the movie? Just one of the guys? One of the guys. Great. You got it. I got it. It's a great era. All right. Last thing I have is how much research there is on the tapas scene, which I found hysterical. I couldn't believe how much information there was. What do you got? Highs are not sold on doing a tapas scene. Right. No nudity in our contract. Gottlieb persuaded her to reconsider. And she said, quote, honestly, I think you've got to show them. She pulled her aside. I think this is not something you couldn't do, the five-part Martin Scorsese documentary about Lisa Gottlieb, I'm guessing, but this would have been a key part in it. She talked about this at the 30th anniversary Q&A that exists on YouTube that was at CineFamily. She talks about this for so long, about persuading, like, you know. So one of her best friends was Rosanna Arquette. Joyce just sounds like she was. Rosanna Arquette. Really? She was like an it girl. Yeah. It really felt like she was in the middle of everything. Rosanna said, I would say you shouldn't do it because no one will ever look into your eyes again as long as you live. On the other hand, people will look at you and see those breasts forever, even when you're an old lady. And Lisa Gottlieb said she heard that story and said, wow, I'll strip myself after hearing that reason. Okay. But that was Rosanna Arquette. Like, just think long game. Forty years from now, you'll be old. You'll be glad you did it. Interesting. So Joyce Heiser was talking about how she's like, this is before Freeze Frame. This was before, you know, like when we made this. I did not know that this would be like the most paused moment in 80s cinema or whatever. She didn't know porn. She was like, if I knew Pornhub, all this shit was coming, probably not saying yes to this. Right. It has become like this whole thing. But I saw an interview that she gave just like a couple of years ago where she was like, yeah, and I've got really like, you know, shy about doing nudity and I didn't want to do it. And she's like, now I wish I had because, you know, like. Yeah. I wish I had done it, honestly, more often. What was I afraid of? So I thought that was interesting. Rosanna Arquette, she's in a movie with Van Damme called Nowhere to Run. One of his worst movies. Topless. Talented. Looks great. Rosanna Arquette, colon, topless, talented. In that order? No. Okay. Probably not that she did it. They did not have an intimacy coordinator in that movie either, unfortunately. But I remember seeing it in theater. And then Clayton Roaner weighed in. They were considered a work of art, not anything sexual. They were so beautiful. She was gorgeous. Oh, wow. Good for you. Okay. Just shooting from the hip. They were. All right. Well, I never. Okay. I mean, elephant in the room. She has fantastic breasts. Great. Good for him. Well, we have a couple categories coming up. Oh, good. Well, don't cover that. But the Steven Scull shitting on himself award for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot. The godfather of soul, James Brown. Yes. Spent three days on set. Allegedly. To help Clayton Roaner perfect his dance moves. And this was a thing that happened. And it's inexplicable. I researched it multiple places. They keep saying it everywhere. So it has to be true. His room is covered in James Brown stuff. He choreographed the prom dance moves that both Terry and Rick do. Clayton Roaner claims he was there for five days. No, he wasn't. Joyce. So he went from the set of Just One of the Guys to doing Living in America with Apollo Creed. That's true. He was working a lot. Hardest working man. Gosh, that's right. James Brown showed up to do beach prom choreography for Just One of the Guys. I just don't know if I believe it, but it's their adamant that this happened. I believe it. The way that they all keep repeating it in interviews, like, I just don't think it's a joke. It's also like, it's in the conversation for like the whitest movie ever made. And the male lead loves James Brown of all things. Right. It's like their way of working a black person to it. Clayton Roaner said, how many times do you get to sit and shoot the shit with James Brown for eight hours a day? Never. I'm guessing it wasn't eight hours a day. I really don't think it was. I think it probably went from 10 minutes to an hour over the years past. All right. New category. What do we got? The Billy Jacoby Award for most believable and yet unequivocally delightful anecdote from the actual film shoot. This is a new category, Craig. Clayton Roaner talking about Billy Jacoby. Well, Billy Jacoby was under 18. I think it was more like 15. I don't think he could drive. And he got in all kinds of trouble. Because his chaperone was his older sister and she didn't give a crap. And oh my God, he was after every girl on the set. And I wouldn't be surprised if he got successful with a couple of them. He was a ladies man. That kid, I swear to God. Awesome. Yeah. So then the interviewer asked Clayton Roaner, did he hook up with Sherilyn Fenn? Roaner answers, I don't know. I think she was dating Chris Penn at the time. This movie is like a four-hour documentary. So Joyce Heiser is the most connected woman in Hollywood, apparently. Apparently. Sherilyn Fenn is under 18, dating Chris Penn. Clayton Roaner is hanging out with James Brown. What the fuck was happening in this movie? The boss is on the set. Yeah. Plus, according to my research, Sherilyn Fenn at this time was with Johnny Depp. That's on her wiki page. So like, I think he was somewhere floating around too. This is a movie set that had Bruce Springsteen and James Brown visiting. And they went to Scottsdale, Arizona. They flew James Brown out to Arizona. To Arizona. To do prom choreography. Wait, one more anecdote from this interview. Unbelievable. I'm stunned. They asked him how William Zabka was to work with in the 80s. And Clayton said, he was great, you know. He was a born-again Christian. All the girls wanted to sleep with him. And all he wanted to do was sing them songs and hang out. Hmm. Interesting. I have to admit, there's part of- That's not how I thought Billy, like, passed the 80s. You thought he was a party boy? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. There's still part of my brain that's still sitting here thinking, about Joyce Heiser as Dr. Melfi. Like, I haven't recovered from that moment. You may never come back. I'm still kind of there. How about 15-year-old Billy Jacoby banging chicks on just one of the gas sets? Amazing. Amazing. Method guy, Billy Jacoby. What do you think- This is the podcast of the year. What if they had put Jacoby instead of David Faustino in Married with Children? Better show. Yeah. Like, a great show. Yeah. Him and Christina Applegate working together. It sounds like we should have put him in Basic Instinct and had him just with Sharon Stone. Instead of Wayne Knight sitting there watching him. He's just Billy sweating. Oh, it's great. The Kid Cudi Pursuit of Happiness or Best Needle Drop. Trouble by Lindsey Buckingham's in this and dropped nicely. The prom song is called Hard Way. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it's like, Oh, yeah. It's on school. It's not bad. It might have been their own song. I looked for it on Spotify. It was like Shitty Lover Boy. Yeah, yeah. Totally. Totally. Baker Hoonaburger wore it best. He's the fruit and drink. Obviously, the spaghetti spill. Like, where has spaghetti spill gone? I feel like it was a staple of cinema for so long. And now we are no longer. Well, kids wouldn't eat spaghetti at lunchtime, right? I don't think people just eat big plates of spaghetti like they did in the 80s and 90s. You've seen an 80s movie, you know it's gone on somebody. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nobody's ever had a bite of spaghetti in an 80s movie. Weren't you just talking in Fatal Attraction, he gives it to his dog? What was that movie? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. That's the most upset Mal's ever been about anything that's ever been in a movie or TV show. Then Michael Douglas. He comes home from two days after sleeping with Glenn Close and just gives his dog spaghetti and meatballs. Is that that bad? The meatballs doesn't seem like it should be that bad. The dog's shitting and farting and puking everywhere. No, it's a complete violation. No, but it's not like, you know. Craig, don't have a dog. You're not allowed. A meatball and some pasta is not going to work. I think it's all about the puking and the shitting they're going to be doing all over the place. What if you just give, I don't own a dog, what if you just gave the meatballs? That's better. Could the dog just have the meatballs? Like if she poured the dog a beer, I'd be like, all right. I don't think Cooper gives his dog a steak before he hangs himself in a Star is Born. That's fine. I think that's better. The spaghetti and meatballs. Yeah, because you don't have to clear up the diarrhea after you're hanging in the garage. That's Lady Gaga's job. That as well. The Billy Batts Jack Waltz Award for most biting and scalable insult. New category for you. I fucking love it. And I have an answer. What is it? It's when the Star Trek guys are in the cafeteria and they go, I seem to be detecting some sort of carbon-based douchebag. I love every time he says that about Greg Toland. That's mine. Carbon-based douchebag. I like those guys. 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Get tickets now. All right, Kyle, what's your flex? All right, so I was going to go, Sasha Jenkins' bigger star for Billy Jacoby, we've covered so much of it. So that means I have to pivot. And usually when I pivot, I do a porn title, but I haven't prepared one. Off the dome, buddy. You're an English major. Well, just one of the guys. I think it would be the same title. You know Shakespeare. Do it. Thrust one of the guys. Also a gay porn, probably. Yes, yes. We needed more sex talk for me in this pod. See, I think it would have been just all of the guys. Thrust all of the guys. That's good, too. That's good. Butch's Girlfriend Award for weak link of the film. I mean, a lot of ways to go here. What do you think, Jo? Well, this is tough because both this and overacting is tough because it's just a vibe. I don't think that, I don't feel like anyone is doing a great, wonderful acting job. So I can't get upset, you know? That's why my answer is Cindy Lauper, as we discussed earlier. I just can't believe they didn't do a second take. I also just, Rick as a character, I still can't believe it. I would do a few more passes on Rick as a character. I feel like I Like James Brown is not a character enough of a draw for our leading lady, I think. All right, next category is the Jamie Lee Curtis Unnecessary Nudity Award, which is obviously, this could go one of two ways. They easily could have just gone bra and probably nailed it. Interesting. Right? I mean, it's 1985, so they're not going to do that. I mean, especially since she's quite obviously wearing a binder for the rest of the movie. I was going to ask that. Why is she not wearing a bra to push down her boobs at the prom with a tuxedo? She's wearing, the rest of the movie, she's got like basically an ace bandage on it. She's got a binder on. And when she pulls the shirt back together, you can see her bra on underneath. So, you know, it's for cinema. It's for art. Listen, it's 1985. You got to deliver certain things, especially if your poster is what that poster is and you can't have the, like, what the heck? That's what happens. You have to have some nudity in there. I don't think this is unnecessary for the movie, to be honest. She tries. She tells him like three times, I'm a female. He won't believe her. What's he going to do? I think it's necessary, but I also would have filmed a second scene with the bra for Comedy Central. You could do it from behind. I know. She opens the shirt from behind. I didn't even know this scene was in the movie until many, many years later. But Trading Place is like, Dan Aykroyd's just sick in bed and for some reason, she's just topless taking care of him. Yeah. This is much more plot related. Yeah, it's like in theory it's story related. This is art. What's age the worst? Gary confronting her professor right after overhearing them talk about how hot she is and he goes, well, you're a pretty girl. You could be a model. That's his recovery. Come on, man. It's brutal. Even for 1985, it's like, come on, man. Brutal. The One of the Guys song is pretty bad. Yeah, it's. One of the guys. So synth heavy. This is just the joy of being in the 80s. You're like, what's the title of the movie? That one could have worked a little harder. They had no money for any pop music at all, so they had to make some really bad shit on a Yamaha synthesizer. This is a good time. Just like a preset on the Yamaha? Oh, yeah. This is a what's age the worst. And just let me let me lay in the plane on this. Sherilyn Fenn's 90 Rise tying into the legend of the movie now has age the worst because it's 2026 and Sherilyn Fenn, I don't think, has the same kind of oomph. But when this movie was having its rewatchable kind of renaissance of the 90s, a piece of it was it was young Sherilyn Fenn who was Twin Peaks. She was in, what was that movie? Three of Hearts or whatever that was. And everybody, all the guys I knew, including myself, were, we loved her. And it was just weird that she was in this movie and it was like this crazy wrinkle to it, but now nobody cares. Does that make sense? I think Sherilyn Fenn, because Twin Peaks is an institution, like people still, she still matters. She still matters. Not in the same way that it did in the 90s, though, I agree. Any others? Because I have a couple other. Quick one, a classic for what's age the worst. Shirts and skins. It doesn't exist. You're right. I coach youth sports, different sports. It would be unfathomable to me to go out to these boys and be like, all right, you're the shirts. Take your shirt. Ridiculous. I feel like I'd be arrested. You've lost your job 10 minutes later. We don't do it. Kyle, I heard you did shirts and skins. You deroped my child? Never. No surprise jock inspections in your life? Never. And by the way, jock straps themselves, they were everywhere in the 80s. Revenge of the Nerds has a whole thing. Sixteen Candles does. I don't think I've ever worn a jock strap in my life, ever. I've worn a cup, but you would just go to gym and you'd put a jock on. It's a very odd thing. Craig, again, jock strap? Only when I play baseball. Yeah, baseball. If you're a catcher, yeah, for a cup, but not like in gym. No. Never. So we weren't showering in gym class in high school. Mandatory. We were told we had to do it. We were told we had to do it nude. Were you showering in school? I mean, not if I could help it. Our gym teacher said to us, you have to shower. I was showering with a bunch of dudes. Yes. And by the way, I remember our gym teacher saying, and no bathing suits. This is a nude shower. That was their policy. I'm not kidding. What? That was just what you did. And we're like, all right. It was so weird. So weird. Now they only do it in England. Do they do? Sorry, just shots in England. Can I hit you with a what's age the worst? I want a couple for me. Okay. Well, I would just say that I think using tulip as your gazeler is like, but there's some other gender commentary stuff in this movie. I'm like trans commentary stuff that like as much as this is maybe like helped some people. There's also just trans jokes that haven't aged well. I would say. Has it aged worse than setting up a high school senior and a double date with a sixth grader? You know, in just two years, she's going to make him really happy. I didn't understand that in 1985. Now it's like, what's happening? Why not go ninth grader? A lot of girls with braces in this sex comedy. Sixth grader is like, what is happening? I just didn't get that at all. I don't know why. Well, I thought that was just like a bait and switch. She was just like, I have a cousin. All right, but you go ninth grader. I don't know. This type of thing has really changed and become way progressive recently. Like it wasn't that long ago that there was the Olsen twins countdown clock and people would just talk about it. Yeah, that's true. There's a clip that goes around of Ashton Kutcher hosting Punk'd and he's like, so we got Hilary Duff here. She's one of those girls we're just waiting until she turns 18. Everyone's like, what the fuck? But that was on Punk'd. It was no big deal. Like that was just part of the show. That's changed a lot recently. Yeah. Thank God. In sixth grade, you're 12? 13th? 11 or 12. Heiser, I don't know if this is a what's age the worst or what's age the best, but she said, I've done a few of these signing conventions where they come in with tons and tons of pictures and not one of my fans has brought that picture to sign. Oh. That's why I truly love my fans. So it's a what's age the best that nobody's done that. It's a what's age the worst that it's been her worst fear. I feel like that's definitely happened to her somewhere. Someone has brought her that photo. And then finally, we might as well do the Clayton Roaner conversation now. We've been dancing around it. Dancing like James Brown? It's tough. What do you want to say? Well, this probably was the peak for him. If he's listening, I feel bad, but yeah, it's tough. There's characters all over the place. Yep. Not positive. I think it's more of a character issue than it is even an acting issue. Maybe it's a Rick issue, not a Clayton Roaner issue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I would say. One of the archetypes, I think, of the movies is the sensitive new boy in town. Like in Footloose, that's Kevin Bacon and he pulls it off. But that's just like we have Bully and like the babe with brains and all that. Like that guy. And they tried really hard, I think. I think the James Brown thing is kind of just a weird whiff. They tried to make him interesting and appealing, but it's not the best part of the movie. Yeah, it's like he's a nerd, but then no nerd would be able to win a fight with Greg Tolan on the beach or do like the lunch scene. I know. So he's like a lurking, not a nerd. He's like a loner. He's more of a loner. He's like Christian Slater and Heathers or something. I was going to say, he's not Christian Slater and Heathers. He doesn't have the Christian Slater riz. I just don't have a handle on this character at all even after 50 watches. Andrew McCarthy, not to bring him up again, but like Andrew McCarthy in this role. Because he can do that like nerdy guy with like, but he has that cocaine gleamer. As I like to say about Andrew McCarthy. But Greg is dreamy. Especially like, I love another 80s high school stable, The Makeover, when you go from totally geek to totally chic. And she just combed his hair differently and put on like a vest and he was all of a sudden the coolest guy in school. He's handsome as hell. Do you feel like we were robbed of the montage, The Makeover montage? Totally. Yeah, I agree. Totally. There should have been a montage and it's since the girls got something. Well, they were shopping at 7.15 in the morning before school. With the plastic. They didn't have the budget to go to the mall in Arizona. Are you an Airborne guy in the movie Airborne? No. Okay. No. Airplane and Airheads but not Airborne. But not Airborne? No. There's a great Makeover montage in that. Yeah, Seth Green. It's really good. Ruffalo Hannah Rubinick Partridge overacting word. This is. How do you do this? I can't for this movie. No, you can. Okay, what do you got? I don't know if it's overacting or if it's underacting or if it's what is this acting but the teacher is just insane in this movie. Oh, the journalist? Two scenes. The first one? And he's like, when he apologizes to her at the end, it's just, I don't know. The apology one is so weird because he's like, I'm shipping you and Rick. Are you guys going to be together? I can tell how you feel about him from your article. I'm going to come back to that. But like. It's just bizarre. It's super weird. Like, did he learn something? Maybe. But he was like, I can really tell that you care about that guy, Rick. Are you two kids going to work it out? Bizarre. And she goes, how do you know that? And he's like, this huge pause. He's like, I read your column. I read your article. Come on, man. Just say the line. He's just bad. Yeah. All right, show you have a flex. I'm doing the Vincent Chase Award. Are we sure this character is actually good at his job? is Terry a good journalist? Oh. Yeah, what's our evidence that. I had that for my picking notes. I mean, because what is this. To go back to, I read your article. What is this article that she turned in? Ostensibly, it's about going undercover as a guy. She won this award. But how much of this article is about this dreamy guy, Rick, that she has a crush on? It's fan fiction, it feels like. I feel like she won this so that people didn't get sued. I don't know. It's a bizarre thing, and I have no evidence that she's a great writer. I'm really glad you brought this up. Because I was trying to think of the premise of the piece. So was she trying to expose. Like, I had to do this because it's the only way I could enter a contest? No, it's because people's reactions are like, I like what you said about being yourself. So it's like how nerds are treated, or be yourself. I don't know, it's like a real think piece. A real think piece. Why didn't we get to see it? Why didn't they do like a mock version of the essay? What do you mean? At the end, when she's on the word processor, we see her lead. Yeah, oh, you have it? It's fucking horrible. What do you have? It starts with a question. Yeah. And she's like, Have you ever wondered what it's like to be inside the guy's locker room? She goes, Fate forced yours truly to be a teenage boy! It's the worst garbage you've ever read. It's terrible. Okay, so we have our answer. This was your contest winner? No. Well, I have another reason. It's terrible. Does the. Arizona school system did not want to get sued or something like that. Yes. I have another reason to back you up. And I say this as somebody who is a two-fingered typist, but really fast. Oh, her typing sucks. I would be on airplanes typing and like the people in my. Whatever, the person I sit next to was like, I can't believe you can type that fast. But I was just like. Yeah. She. Joyce Heiser had never touched a word processor before. She's like. She's too busy dancing and being friends with Rosanna Arquette. Brandy, the worst lead ever. Yeah. I think the answer is she was probably a terrible journalist. Yeah. And you said to that person next to you on the plane, you're like, look, I'm trying to compare Pearl Jam's No Code to Tracy McGrady. You try to type fast, right? Fucking awesome. Good for you. Type any way you want. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. How does it take a word? Which people have been clamoring for us to change it to the Rob Mahoney. Oh, yeah. Nirvana's bad, actually. Nirvana was bad, actually. Teen Spirit is bad, actually. I wouldn't disagree. I wouldn't disagree. The fourth CR thinks that there was another one. Stephen A. Smith is what it's called. But the CR one's perfect. Yeah. Especially when you do a Harrison Ford movie, like you guys just did, and you get to ask CR if Luke Wilson could have carried what lies beneath. Well, then when Cameron Crowe, without blinking in that seat, was like, oh, yeah, he definitely could have, and was bought in. That was when we were like, oh, man. CR thinks that Luke Wilson could have had the whip and the hat and all that shit. Yeah, he could have done it all. That's unbelievable. Could have done it all. What do you have for hottest take? Paul Tanner's hot. Paul Thomas Anderson ripped off this movie for Boogie Nights. And it's a whole movie with a character, and the character is hiding something, and we're hearing about it, hearing about it. And at the end, the big fucking whip out in the last scene, we were like, whoa! I think Paul Thomas Anderson's a full horned dog. He saw this movie. He liked the reveal. He loved Tizer. Yes. And he inspired his reveal for Dirk Diggler to say I'm a star, I'm a star, and pull it out in the dressing room. Him Dirk pulling it out is Terry. Wow, that's really good. Do you think Paul Thomas Anderson and Warren Beatty were at the same time? Same screening of just one of the guys? You know what? I think Warren Beatty had a private screening job. Oh, you're right. I really do. But early on. P.T.'s more of a, I rented it again and again. Because he wants to know why. Like we all did. Of course. There's like early on in Boogie Nights, you see like close-ups of like Dirk's crotch, and it's like there's this bulge that he shows. You kind of get that a little bit with Terry, and I think it's that same shock effect in pretty much the last moment of the movie when it's just out. Damn. I really like it. I'm almost in awe of that take. It's great. I think P.T., I was an apology. It's scorching. It's a scorching take. What do you have, Jo? I think Joyce Heiser should have had a bigger career. Not Harrison Ford level, but I think she should have had it. And I think Debbie Mazur took Joyce Heiser's career. That's what I think. What Debbie Mazur role do you see Joyce Heiser? Any of them. Because like, she grew up in Queens. That sort of like real New York girl attitude. Good fellas. I would have loved to have seen. I think the problem for her, there's a little, like, Kurt Warner with her. Like, she was 26 in this movie. Yeah, it's true. Stuffed football reference. No, I got it. But like, when she made this movie, she said she was offered other teen roles, and she's like, I'm in my late 20s now. What can you give me? She said she auditioned for Brian De Palma for Body Double, I think. Well, so when it, ooh, that would have been interesting. So when it should have happened for her, it was late 70s, when she was like 21, should have been laying the groundwork. But she was on tour with Bruce, on tour with the boss. Like, could she have been the, De Mornay part in Risky Business? She says she almost got the Terry Garr role in Tootsie, that, when Hal Ashby was directing Tootsie. See, I never know when to believe you. If I was an actor, I would say I almost got 20. I almost got any, yeah, any. She's only in movies where people cross-dress like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's her deal, that's her niche. Yeah, I don't know about the De Mornay, I don't know, she goes pretty nuts in that part. I would not, I would not replace. When she dresses down that part, I would not replace De Mornay. I would, no. That's my thing. Joyce Heiser and De Mignolet. Oh, that's, okay, yeah, yeah. It's a lukewarm take. Mine is, Come on, crow-hop into it. I just think Jacoby in this movie, I think it's an all-time 80s comedy performance. I think it holds up. I was watching it with my fam, and I was laughing at every scene and the lines. And my wife at one point was like, you rarely laugh at movies like this. I don't know, I was like, this kid just hits my, he's just going for it for an hour and a half, and it fucking kills me every time. And I was trying to think of other movies in the 80s that make me, like, Fletch does that for me, even though I think we all know Chevy Chase is an asshole. Sure. Eddie Murphy in basically his first three movies, every scene he's in. But not to compare him to people like that, but he makes me laugh like that, and I don't really have an explanation for it. So real ones know that the 80s comedy trio is Eddie Murphy, Chevy Chase, and David Jacoby. David Jacoby, not necessarily in that order either. You're right, you're right. Well, I was watching Meatballs. Topless and talented. We just didn't have Meatballs. It's fine. It's idiotic. It's not my thing. Bill Murray's kind of trying to do the, and I'm sure Billy Jacoby probably loved that movie, but Bill Murray's trying to be funny, but half the time it's not hitting. Yeah. Jacoby's batting average is like 90% in this movie. Every line, everything. I just, it's inexplicable. First of all, I think you should get Jacoby on the pod. He should know. He's not Billy Jane. I know. And secondly, I think you should single-handedly, like, resurrect this movie. Yeah. Yeah. This guy's career in a post-Milf Manor kind of way. There's a reason we call it the hottest take category, but I really, I think his batting average in this movie, it would be like when you look at football and you look at the, like, the highest QB ratings ever or something, and all the guys make sense, and then there's this one random, like, Dante Culpepper. What's he doing here? Yes, yes, yes. That's what I think his stats would be. He'd be looking at the 80s movie reference.com. He'd be like, yep, Chevy Chase, Eddie Murphy, Bill Murray. Billy Jacoby, 92.7? You're like, wow. What is this? Aaron Brooks on The Saints got really hot for, like, six weeks. Incredible. I just think the advanced metrics left him in this movie. It's not enough to say that he's cooking this movie. He's at fucking Benihana, throwing shrimp into your mouth and doing the onion volcano and making the beating hard and catching the egg in his hat. Like, he's doing all the tricks. Yeah. It's so fun. He's really good. Casting what ifs. Jennifer Jason Leigh went for the lead. Heiser said she got it over. I don't think Jennifer Jason Leigh is right for that role. I don't like it. Do you want to see her as Terry? I don't like it. Is Terry? No. I don't think so. I don't like it. Roaner said he beat out James LaGrosse. Oh, that's from Point Break? That would have been much better. Roach? He's a good actor. He was the original Raylan Gibbons, the first one. Best that guy award? Probably Clayton Roaner. I. The. One of the nerd guys. I know who you're saying. Ari Gross. Yeah, Ari Gross. Yes. Because he was on Ellen for, like, 900 years. You know what I think of Ari Gross? He's the guy in the opening scene of Minority Report who's going to kill his wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise stops him and puts the cuff on him. Yeah. That guy was like, oh, I know him. Yeah. I don't know his name, but I do now. Clayton Roaner, 90210 episode? Which one? No? No. Which one? Dylan. When Dylan's drinking again, season five. Oh, I drink it hard, too. One of the best eight-episode cycles in the history of television. Uh-huh, yeah, of course. I love that Dylan. Does. Finally tries heroin and drives off a mountain, almost dies, and is in the hospital. Clayton Roaner, the doctor. Oh, really? Yeah. See, he's been in every show. Wow. Remember him. Throwing jabs at Dylan, trying to wake him up. He's got a real 90210 face. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm surprised he wasn't in there more. Dan Waiter's award, the Trekkies? Yeah. Or the guy with all the animals, the reptile. Oh, reptile guy? Yeah, reptile guy. It's hard to pick one because Jacoby doesn't qualify and all the attention goes to him. But 80s nerds, I mean, we've talked about this before, but this era of what we think a nerd is is just such a funny capture time in a bottle. Yeah, now if somebody brought reptiles into high school, he'd probably be expelled. He has a lizard and iguana in the shower. But it's also like Trekkies don't think they're aliens from Mars. It's just sort of like nerds were like the Saved by the Bell nerds. It's just like a different kind of thing. It's its own clownery. What do you have for recasting couch director of City? Or you already did it? I would do City, and I would put us in LA. Like Santa Monica? Yeah, Santa Monica. Okay. What do you have? For some reason in this category, my mind always goes to Fincher. I don't know why. - What, David Fincher's just one of the guys? - When Buddy finally has sex, though, to do it with, like, a blade attached to his dick. Like, it's just something absolutely disgusting and disturbing. I don't know what it is, but I always go to Fincher. I'd like to see his take on it. Okay. I was thinking, could Patrick Dempsey have also been Rick in this movie? Like Ronnie? Yeah, like, did we need to go more nerdy where it was more rags to riches than Clayton Roaner? Yeah, yeah. Everyone in this movie is too old. That's another issue, except for Billy Jacoby, who's the perfect age. But did we need somebody who was a more believable? All right, you want Dempsey. Or somebody of that ilk from that era. Yeah. I like the Dempsey call. They do more work making him a nerd. He's Lawnmower Boy. You know, like, he's actually mowing the lawn for Cindy. I got one. Yeah. If you want to up the acting ability just a little bit on Joyce, Sandra Bullock would be 19 when this movie came out. Absolutely not. Why not? Sandy can't pass as a guy. Miss Congeniality, what are you talking about? I mean, like, she has that tomboy nature to her. I feel like she's perfect for that. Her features, though, like, I don't think her features. Pre-nose job Sandra? She has it. I love Potion No. 9, Sandra. Allegedly. Yeah. What about, I mean, Demi's sitting right there. We know she likes the short haircut. No way. The G.I. Jane. 22 years old. She definitely has the hair. Right off St. Elmo's Fire, Demi Moore. Come on. It's pretty good. What do you have for your flex? I did the. It's the book about metals exchange. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sleeping with my mom's friend and no one acknowledged that. I'm glad you brought that up. Imagine this movie we don't mention that. Isn't it? We just looked at each other like, what did he just say? Yeah. Half-assed internet research. We covered most of this. The original title was I Was a Teenage Boy. Right. I got to get rid of that. That was the name of the article, right? We have. Yes. And we talked about. The award-winning article, Craig, please. The Ralph Macchio thing, that's what they were going for. Right. Clayton Roaner is still upset about that they didn't use his fall over the fence, that they used the stunt double. He didn't think it was good enough. He said he did one himself. That was really good. How many Clayton Roaner interviews did you read? He did a lot of interviews. I know. He really did dine on that. You went really deep on Roaner. You're getting Clayton Roaner in street fights for the rest of your life. He also said that every time it showed on cable, they would get 17 cents and it paid well for a while. Great. Yeah, the director said she got fat residual checks for a long time. And then Paramount prevented them from being called Trekkies, the Trekkies. So they were Trekkies but not actually saying they were Trekkies. Kirkland brand Trekkies. I get it. And then Billy Jane was, I'm just going to read this quote. This is from like 10 years ago. Okay. After the thing Joe saw, the whatever, when they all got together. He said, I started thinking of the sequel. We had a couple drinks that night, got a little hammered. Now I know I came up with a great one, but don't know if anyone wrote it down talking about his idea. She goes into a newspaper thing and Zabka comes back and he's going to buy out the paper and now she has to go back undercover and do something. And then the next, you know, next thing he says is, I have three ex-wives. Like to, to basically say like, hey, I come up with weird ideas, but I'm a mess. So he ends that pitch with, I have three ex-wives. Okay. So. Billy Jacoby. He still got it. He still got it. At that panel. Yeah. They introduced everyone before the screening. Yeah. So that's on the video. He's not there. And then they do the screening and then they're like, hey, it was there. And he walks in with like a scotch in his hand. So. Oh, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. It might have been an action pack 30 years for him. Yeah. So, you know, three ex-wives and I get blackout drunk at a 30th anniversary screening of just one of the guys. I've heard worse. Milt Manor time. I don't know. I think we might have to give him a ringer podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jacoby. Jacoby and Jacoby? Yeah. Jacoby versus Jacoby. You gotta look at Jacoby though. Yeah. That's really good. Apex Mountain, every actor in the movie and the director. Not Sherilyn Fenn. Not Sherilyn Fenn. Not Sherilyn Fenn. Not Sherilyn Fenn. Actor but Sherilyn Fenn. Yeah. What's fun about the movie is there's, they're all like kind of no names. Like, there's no one coming in really where you're like, oh, that guy's carrying, I didn't know any of these people. But that's, the movie would have a different legacy if like Downey's in it. You know, Sherilyn Fenn is here as your point, but it's like, Downey's randomly here or something like that. You're like, oh my God, have you seen that? Downey as Rick. Downey as Rick? Very different energy. Different energy. Apex Mountain, 80s high school movies. I'd love to say yes, but no. Funny teenage boy characters in 80s movies, yes. Jacoby's. Wait, wait, wait. Funny teenage boys in 80s movies. This is number one? This is the best teenage boy in an 80s movie? Funniest. What? Oh, funniest? Have you not been listening? He loves this guy. Yeah, like he's much funnier than Ferris Bueller. Like he's, Ferris Bueller's a good one. But he's not funnier than Buddy. He's just, he's a cooler guy. I mean, I wouldn't put him at Apex Mountain, but it's just like, this is Bill's thing. This is your guy. well, I love him, but I don't want to put him above Ferris. But in funniest, he's funnier than Ferris. Ferris is the leading man in cooler. Batting average is higher. Oh, yeah. What about Jacoby's? So our nominees are Jacoby Jones and the Ravens who got the famous pass. Uh-huh. Dave Jacoby, Jacoby Brissett, or Jacoby Ellsbury? What about Jacoby, Jacoby and Myers? Or is that just like, well, yeah, the law firm. Jacoby and Myers? Yeah, yeah. Jacoby Ellsbury was like a five tool. Jacoby Ellsbury's pretty good. I like that one. Jacoby Jones had a kick return in the Super Bowl right before the blackout for a touchdown. That's a pretty big moment and he's no longer with us. I'm going to say Dave Jacoby. I will also say Dave Jacoby based on the like wall of text, like all caps, rants that we get from him on whatever TV show he's currently watching. Cruz or Hanks? It's Cruz. Which part? Rick? Greg Tolan. Yeah. I'd like to see Cruz in those gloves. Yeah, in the gloves, lifting tables. Lighting that losing it era where he's making bad choices in the high school movies. I wrote down either Cruz as Zabka or I wrote Hanks as Buddy. Sure. Yeah. What about Hanks as Rick? Rick is dreamy. Tom Hanks is not dreamy. He's a lot of things. I think he has to be kind of dreamy. You good with Cruz? Yeah. Okay. Scorsese or Spielberg? It's Scorsese. It's Scorsese. I want to see Martin Scorsese. Just like you, you want to see Fincher as just one of the guys? I want to see Martin Scorsese as just one of the guys. I think it has to be, I can't have Spielberg close to this much sex. Yeah. He would take Buddy and instead of being obsessed with boobs, he'd be like, Buddy's into dinosaurs. It would suck. Yeah. Too much sex for Spielberg. So for Scorsese, we're not having brewskis after school. We're doing Coke. Yeah. The college boyfriend's definitely doing bumps. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's just like, where's Terry? Yes. I appreciate all the casual high school beer drinking. They get home after the day like they're like a 45-year-old construction worker. He's like, yeah, you want a beer? Yeah. We're not having Sunny D. We're having a brewski. It's like a Tuesday. He's like, you want a beer? Yeah. No, I'm at soccer practice. I can't have a beer. What are you talking about? I got homework. It's a brewski. New category. Uh-oh. Here we go. Best hang, worst hang. Best hang in the movie, worst hang in the movie. I think we know your answer for best hang. I think Terry's a pretty good hang. When Terry comes home drunk from the cave and she sees her shitty boyfriend there and she goes, bummer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really good. She goes upstairs, she comes down, she's all drunk and she's like, hey. I have worst hang Terry's boyfriend. Kevin. Kevin who just like shows, Kevin who shows up and just drinks wine with her 15-year-old brother who's doing his algebra homework and trying to hit on a girl. What's this guy's deal? He's in college and he's like 30. I know, I know. He's a terrible character. And what college is he going to? Is he going to like ASU? Lee McCloskey who plays Kevin. You know his name. Yeah. Has been on a bunch of soap operas like every soap opera. He looks like it. Santa Barbara, Dallas but also General Hospital multiple times days of our lives. But if you go to his Wikipedia page it's just all about how he's a visual artist. Like he has clearly done a hard edit on his own Wikipedia page and it's all about how he's a visual artist and all of his credits and then at the bottom you get his like filmography. Oh really? But it's just like a couple paragraphs of like Source is not verified I bet. It's all his ass changing it. Alright, it's fine. I want to see you know when you go to his IMDB He tried to bury like just one of the guys or whatever. And here we are talking about it. Every other person in that movie it's like the top of their Wikipedia. Known best for. Yeah, best known for this, yeah. So when you go to his IMDB and they do the known for. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which almost should be a category for us. Known for. In four movies. Well you remember you used to do the Hall of Fame plaque like that was the category. Known for is basically that. Because it's basically there. It's your IMDB Mount Rushmore. So for him it's Inferno, Star Trek Voyager one episode. Just one of the guys and Star Trek Deep Space Nine one episode. No but see that's the thing is like it's with love and respect to all algorithms no. IMDB's top four because it should be Dallas. He was like a recurring on Dallas and he was on a million episodes of Santa Barbara. So I never watched those shows but like it shouldn't be one episode of Star Trek Voyager for this guy. Life Goes On Jake and the Fat Man Life Goes On he was in. Dallas Hamburger the Motion Picture Love Boat five episodes with five different Love Boat characters. Incredible stuff. There's a fucking movie called Hamburger. Fall Guy Heart to Heart Buck Rogers this guy was cranking it. Great job by him. Great job by Lee McCloskey. Picking Nets here we go. So why was Terry with the college guy? What was it about him? Oh status. Right? Just he had a car. Why was why was why was Elle Woods with her shitty boyfriend at the beginning of I bet you they were dating when she was a junior and he was a senior and he continued dating. Yeah. You think he went to her high school? I do, yeah. But I actually think she she was like a freshman and he was a senior. Maybe. You know, like that. Well, listen, she's sophisticated and smart. Yeah, or a sixth grader. Everything's in play with this movie. But with this movie, you don't know. All right, we got to talk about it. So Terry, it's April, senior year. It's like two weeks. Nobody's talking about college. Right, right. And she just leaves school. For two weeks and enrolls in a different school. And goes to the other high school, which by the way, seems like it's about four minutes away from this high school. Nobody knows her. Nobody in the other high school knows her, even though she's obviously one of the most attractive person in the other high school. Is a guy just enrolls right away, takes classes, is there for two weeks, and then leaves and just goes back to the other high school? How does she register at the attendance office? Maybe just skip gym. You know, you don't have to go. Yeah, who cares? What are they going to do? Do you feel like they should have made Buddy like a Ferris Bueller-esque, like I can change the school records from my computer at home kind of guy? Don't the parents have to sign off? Yeah, of course. All of that. She just makes it seem like she's, you know, like switching tires or something. It's preposterous. So it's really about as. She treats it like she's going to a different mall in the next town. Like, you can't do that. Now granted, we're in a world where the movies that came out just in this vicinity, Breakfast Club, Emilio Estevez shatters all the glass by screaming when they're dancing in the gym. That's real. Weird Science, they make a girl out of a computer. It's not like we were realistic all over the place here. Ferris Bueller, nothing that happened. Ferris Bueller's leading the twist and shout parade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like we were bending it here. We're all thinking it when we're watching it. Like, hold on, how does she get registered at that school? That doesn't make sense. She needs a hacker friend. One singular hacker friend. Yeah, the hacker friend. Nine times that scene where Ferris changes that's what you're talking about. Yeah. Why did Buddy dime her out to the boyfriend? He comes and he's like, I'm going to kill you. And she's like, all right, I'm going to tell you, but you got to take me. Like, he's been so loyal to helping her with the story and then he just folds. No, but he likes chaos because sometimes he just lets Sherilyn Fenn in. Like, he likes some chaos. So he knows there's dressed up girls at the prom and just wants to go basically. Yeah, because notice he shows up to the prom in his tuxedo t-shirt. Oh my God. Like, it's fish in a barrel there. But also Kevin's like, you can tell me now or tell me in the hospital. Like, it's a pretty big threat. So I think Billy or Buddy finally folds. Okay. Great line delivery on Kevin too. I love when he was like, she's like telling away in the car. He's like, I've tried that. He doesn't enjoy waiting in cars. It's a whole comedy. What other nitpicks do you have? I understand that they're trying to make Terry thoughtful and intellectual. There's no high school senior girl who has a giant poster of Ernest Hemingway on her wall. It has huge, huge scenery. It's like one of these places, Bill. One of these posters here, but huge. And Hemingway looks pissed and like old and bald. Like, it's just, it's a terrible, terrible poster. Terrible. I agree. And that wouldn't be Terry's idol anyway. You would have in. She mentions Woodward and Bernstein. Like, could we have a Woodward and Bernstein poster? She has Springsteen. You would have Duran Duran. She has all that shit. It would be all that stuff. This is also Apex Mountain right now for like high school posters. Like, Ferris famously has the Simple Minds poster. It's so cool. Come on in with the Hemingway. Enough. Enough. Yeah, Weird Science, we had that too. There were good posters. Great posters. Anything for you, nitpicks? Beyond the entire premise of the movie, no. Okay. Nobody from the other high school knowing Terry is a kind of a good nit. Yeah. I just feel like she's. This is not. She's not in like Phoenix. We don't know how close. Like, Sherilyn Fenn trailed her. We don't know for how long. Right? But the people at the other school, they do know Terry, but Terry is a girl to them. They buy completely that this is some dude. They don't think it's. But wouldn't the people in her high school be like, where's Terry? Has she been kidnapped? Yeah. Do you think her teachers would be like, do you think her teacher was like, you should be a model? I was like, huh, I wonder if it was because I said you should be a model. She just disappeared for the next two weeks. Terry went to do porn in California. She's gone. Sequel, prequel, prestige, TBL, Blackcaster, Untouchable. Clearly, this is an Untouchable. Do you know about Just One of the Girls? No. So there's a direct-to-video Corey Haim and Nicole Eggert film. All right, you got my attention. How did I not see this? Called Just One of the Girls, and then it was renamed, Anything for Love. But it's not an actual, but Corey Haim dresses a girl to be on the cheerleading team, I think it is, or something like that. I think I blocked this out in my mind. And he gets with Nicole Eggert. I feel like I've seen this. Blown Away, that type of era. I've never heard of this movie. 1993. Direct-to-video, Just One of the Girls. Direct-to-video, Say No More. Yes, direct-to-video, Corey Haim, 1993, Say No More. Well, Blown Away, which is pretty pushed in the envelope. Not the Tommy Lee Jones one. No, that one. The other one. Yeah. But has a Corey Feldman performance that is in the running for one of the funniest performances anyone's ever done in a movie. Is Nicole Eggert the queen of direct-to-video? Kyle knows. Is Nicole Eggert. He is out of his mind in that movie. Is there anyone in the 90s more direct-to-video than Nicole Eggert? Like. Corey Haim. Yeah, Nicole Eggert's one of my goats. She was like. One of my goats. Yeah, the queen of the direct-to-video. I almost want you to watch Blown Away with Corey Haim and Nicole Eggert. I'll fire it up. It's gotta be first of all, it has to be on Tubi. Yes. I watched an entire movie the other night with Helen Slater from Legend of Billie Jean. Yeah. Supergirl. Billie Zane. Uh-huh. And it was like. And there was one other person in it, but it was like Billie Zane is a doctor and she falls for him, but bad stuff started. It was basically like a Lifetime movie. You watched the whole thing. And it was one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. And it was written by Robbie Benson and his wife. Yeah. The voice of the beast himself? Yeah. Robbie Benson? Yeah. Wow. And it was. Look at you. It was just really, really terrible. I just want to point that out. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins or 40 other people? Kyle always says something here. I struggled really hard. Yeah. I was trying to find one. I have. And you know what happened? What happened? And I listened to the What Lies Beneath podcast. Yeah. And CR gave us Fergie the Florist. And I'm like, I fucking love this. I think Fergie the Florist is the editor of the newspaper. And the article is so successful that he wants her to do another one. And she's like, no, I'm not doing that anymore. And he looks at her and he goes, you're going to do this for me? Or I'm going to clip your tits like I clipped your mummy? If there's a heaven, Terry, she ain't in it. That's so fucking. CR, thank you so much for bringing Fergie the Florist to this pod. I'm laughing out loud listening to him do What Lies Beneath. And I had nothing for this category. And this is one of my categories. And I'm like, fucking Fergie is the editor. Just cutting roses and grading papers and doing newspapers. And he wants her to do it again. And that's why Terry's mom is gone. She's actually in deep with Fergie the Florist. It's just been a whole terrible thing that happened. That's what I want. I thought for sure you were going to go Tony Romo there. Well, Jim, she's going to try to be a guy in the lower high school, but it's going to be hard, Jim. We'll see if she can do it. Just one Oscar. Who gets it? Not only is Billy Jacoby the answer. Of course. I looked at the best actor in a supporting role. I did. Donamici wins for Cocoon. We have William Hickey for Pritzy's Honor. Robert Loggia for Jagged Edge. How does he get nominated for that? Have you seen Jagged Edge? Robert Loggia. No, I've not seen Jagged Edge. Eric Roberts for Runaway Train and Klaus Maria Brandauer for Out of Africa. I feel like that category is wide open. When's the Pritzy's Honor pod? When are we doing that? I would love to do Pritzy's Honor, but by the way, Cocoon, put some respect on Cocoon. Yeah, Cocoon's good. Of course. But I'm just, you know, my guy. Donamici winning is. Can you imagine the Jacoby? That felt like a career win, though. Thanks for your service, Donamici. Of course. Here's an Oscar. Unanswerable questions. So she goes back to the other high school. Yeah. Yeah. They let her, like, make up her work? Like, how does that part work? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only class she went to is P.E., so I don't know. But she's so smart. She's a really good journalist, so I'm sure she could just. just crush it. Have you ever. Have you ever wondered what it would be like to be a boy? Tough. Really tough. You gotta go back and see that lead. If you really like this movie, it's horrific. Really tough. Carrie Bradshaw would never. Any other. Any other unanswerables? No. Okay. What piece of memorabilia would you want or not want in this movie? The Billy Zapka bullying gloves. I want them so fucking bad. Bill, you go through those websites sometimes. If you find those gloves, can you please get them for me? I had Greg Toland's fight gloves. Come on, baby. So after the movie ended, I asked my son, what should be my answer for this category? And he's like, what do you mean? The gloves. I couldn't believe I even asked. They're so great. I'm going with the tube socks, though. I think it's the. If you were like, these are the tube socks. Probably would wash them. From just one of the guys. The tube socks. And they're. Like, they're huge. The biggest tube socks I've ever seen. Coach Finstock Award, which is now the Coach Finstock Mr. Miyagi Award for best or worst life lesson. I went with, it's okay to transfer schools, dress up like a boy, and ruin multiple lives just to win a newspaper contest would be the lesson. I don't know if that's a good one or a bad one. Whose life was ruined? Don't you feel like everyone had some personal growth? I would say Greg Toland's life might have been ruined. I think he got back together with Deborah. You think he got back together with the prom queen? Yeah. I think Bruce Springsteen's life was ruined because he lost her to Warren Beatty after this movie. Tough. And you're never going back. Tough. Yeah, that's true. Well, I was—because I just saw that Bruce Springsteen movie with— The Bear, when he plays short Bruce Springsteen. Starring the bear, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tiny Bruce Springsteen. He's Tiny Bruce. The bear himself, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's all about how he wrote Nebraska. But he was dating our girl Joyce during this, allegedly from the research. No one plays Joyce in the Bruce Springsteen movies? That'd be awesome. Nobody plays Joyce. I've not seen it. I think that in this movie, the coach, the gym coach, the bowler guy, is like store brand coach Finstock. He's kind of doing some of the same thing. But I mean, listen, Horny will kick Embarrassment's ass any time. He's like, sew that on a pillow. That's incredible. Yeah, you're right. That's the best lesson. Can I, not for mine, all balls itch. It's a fact. Fucking awesome. That is a good life lesson. It's just important to know. What do you have for double feature choice? Would you go She's the Man? We have the same, don't we? I think we do. Yeah, we do. It's Soul Man. Here we go. We finally landed on Soul Man. It's Sea. It's Sea, Thomas Howell, and Soul Man. Van's been pushing for Soul Man for a while. The deeply problematic things you do for academic pursuits. I don't even think it's streaming. It can't be. They buried it. I think it's one of those where Sea, Thomas Howell's like, I'm going to use half of my savings to get rid of this. Can I tell you something else? Years ago, I got to meet Sea, Thomas Howell. We met him on a TV show. Comes on as a guest. And Nate Burleson and I at the time were like, oh my God, we got to talk to you about Soul Man off the air. Because like, holy shit. Right. And he was obviously like, kind of embarrassed and down. But he's like, I will tell you one thing. Everybody in that fucking town wanted that role. And every single actor of my age fought for it and wanted it. And when I got that role, it was a huge, huge deal. And then it became what it became. But he was, he kind of shook his head a little bit. But didn't make the point that like, I got it. But all these other guys who don't get asked about that movie wanted it badly. And guys who are still major movie stars to this day. So I kind of respected that. Yeah. I will just say that I believe comedy. Central like legitimately did do double feature. So like, cause Soul Man ran on comedy central in the nineties. Like it wasn't. I had this written down too. Craig, do you know what Soul Man is? Do you know the premise? Blackface movie? Yes. Yeah. That's all I know. Thomas Howe needs a scholarship. I don't think blackface movie is giving enough credit. Yeah. I mean, that's like just skipping over. It's harsh. Because we were doing, we're doing a lot of body swap. Right. And then in this movie we do a gender swap. And then they're like, just fuck it. Full race swap. And it's, it's Julie Louis-Dreyfus is in it. Yeah. James Earl Jones is like the aerobatic professor. Yeah. Right on shot. It's like, it's a disaster. I saw it in the theater. You did? You went and saw it? I mean, I think a lot of people did. I mean, I saw everything in the theater, but yeah, it was, it was. My only other. The trailer was good for it. It was like, people were like, oh, this will be really funny. It was like, it was the 80s. My only other non, if, if, if C. Thomas Howell has successfully destroyed every copy of Soul Man. I know. Such a good movie. What about Summer School? Mark Harmon, Summer School. I love that movie. Summer School. Summer School's fantastic. Love it. Yeah. Mr. Shoop. That's on your list. Chainsaw and Bob. It is on my list. Yeah. You know, like I was thinking about like the, the Trekkie nerds and stuff like that. Like, it's just very like Summer School. Chainsaw and Dave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had Can't Buy Me Love because it takes us from one side of the mid 80s to the other. We go from 85 to 87 with basically the same kind of premise. And then Can't Buy Me Love 80s movies end with Can't Buy Me Love. Then we move into the late 80s and it just gets different and weird. And it's come up a lot on this pod. I broke the rule of this category. I'm just going to do a quadruple feature because. Okay. Oh. In April of 85, all four of these movies were in theaters at the same time. Girls just want to have fun, which I love. Yeah. The Sure Thing and The Breakfast Club. That's in April of 85. Wow. See, this is why my generation rules. One thing that they love to brag about, the people who made this film, is that when it came out, there was no ad money for it from Columbia. Yeah. Because they put all their money behind the John Travolta disaster. Perfect. And Perfect absolutely tanked. And just one of the guys didn't do super well, but it won the box office. And they were like, Columbia did not support us at all. They put all their money on this shitty John Travolta movie. And it failed and we won. So that's their bragging rights. We beat Perfect. Is Perfect the one where he's doing the aerobics? Yeah. The thrusting. Great gifs on Perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you call him Perfect, shitty really hurt my feelings. I'm so sorry, Bill. Bill likes Perfect. We talked about it. I don't. He's a journalist again, right? Just like this movie. I think it's another drama that's now a comedy movie. Okay. It's in the Regarding Henry area. Okay, well, I love and defend Regarding Henry, so I will stand with you on this. It's now a hilarious movie to rewatch. And it has one of the funniest closing credit sequences that they didn't realize was funny. It's each of them doing aerobics and they show them one at a time. And they're doing this online. Yeah, it's like. What's the premise? It's not. It's unironic. What's the premise in Perfect that matches the premise of Regarding Henry? Which is having a traumatic brain injury can make you nice. Mm-hmm. Which is the premise of one of my favorite Harrison Ford films, Regarding Henry. In this one, in Perfect, I haven't seen it in a while, but he falls in love with Jamie Lee Curtis, who's an aerobic instructor who blew the whistle on like her swimming coach. And then wanted to like live a peaceful life as an aerobics instructor. Travolta is doing a thing about aerobics. Mm-hmm. It's a new single scene, right? For Rolling, as the new single scene. Yeah. Rolling Stone decides this isn't. This isn't sexy enough. We need more. What about this girl? And they put the whole sex scandal thing in there, in it. He doesn't know about it. And he ends up, she, her life gets destroyed. And that's kind of the movie. Okay. With a lot of like uncomfortable eye contact and pressing. And then he quits Rolling Stone and yells at Jan Wenner, who's playing himself. Really? Jan Wenner plays himself in that movie? Jan Wenner plays himself. Okay, I'll watch. I'm in. I'm in. This is drama that's now comedy. I'm in. You got it. Jan Wenner has lines. Just when I thought it was out. And then at the end. At the end. Well, it has one of those things where they write the scene and they take his notes and they write a much worse story about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and it's really mean. So then it has all the people reading the story and getting bummed out. Right. And then he feels bad about that. Jamie Lee Curtis won't talk to him. It's really bad. Like, it's like career. Like, Gibraltar's career wasn't the same for nine years after the movie. Jesus. It bombed. Like, it was it. He bombed. And the credits, it's like Predator credits. Like, what the hell is this that I'm watching? And it's also like Rolling Stone thinking this would be good for us. We should do this. We should show Yon Wenner. This is like why the 80s were so great. Everyone was just doing cocaine and coming up with bad ideas. Making bad decisions. Who won the movie? Billy Jacoby. Billy Jacoby. I think Billy Jacoby. And Warren Beatty. Here we go. I think Bill said before we started recording, Craig, if you don't like this movie, I'm making you leave my house immediately. Go on. Look, I can respect time and place. I can respect 14-year-old horny Kyle and Bill. Yeah. Loving this. And there's no internet in 1985 or 1990 or wherever you saw this movie. And it meant a lot to you. And that's what you took with it for the rest of your life. And now you look back on it fondly. I like the movie Accepted. I don't think there's any nudity in that movie. But Joanna thought it was terrible. But I saw it when I was 12. I just had to get one. The movie you love is terrible. And Craig, I owe you. What do you want me to say? He was never going to like this movie. Did you watch it with Liz? I did. Was Liz horrified? We both thought it was terrible. But when Craig starts his dissertation with, look, you're fucked. You're fucked. Craig, I don't even blame you. You weren't there. And I think that's just what it is. It has to be that way. There's generational blinders on. And it's meant to be that way. That's the point. Well, how did you think about the reveal scene? Were you surprised? Yeah. What's funny is 10 seconds before it, in that scene, I was like, whip him out. That's the only way you're going to convince him. Do it. And she literally did it. Liz and I were like, oh, my God. Wow, you called the shot. I yelled, whip him out. And she did. I think you're going to think about it for a long time, and it's going to grow on you. I mean, if she's wearing a bra in that scene, or if it's shot from behind, this movie is completely irrelevant, right? I think that's right. I genuinely do. Except for Billy Jacoby's award-winning performance. Did you enjoy Billy Jacoby? No, I thought he was cool. I thought he was terrible. Really? Across the board, they're all bad in this movie. Here's what I'll say. Zabka's good. I actually think he's good. Zabka's good? I think Zabka's good. Interesting. I think everyone else is rough. You thought Jacoby? You didn't think the horniest character ever was funny? No, I just thought, I think there's a certain cheesiness that some of these 80s movies have, that the line delivery. I think all three of you delivered every line from the movie way better than any character. Here's my prediction, Bill. There's never going to be a movie that Kyle and I both want to do that Craig is going to like. I like sneakers. You didn't like sneakers. I liked it enough. Don't rewrite history. Don't indulge us, Horlback. Don't rewrite history, Craig. This movie, 100 Minutes, right? 100 Minutes? 100 Minutes. Craig, do you know that now? You have changed me. I used to go and look at the movie. I forgot to put Century Club in there. It was exactly 100 Minutes. 100 Minutes. That should have been your flex. I used to look at the Rotten Tomatoes rating. Now the first thing I look at is the running time because of you. I call it the Beck effect. And it's like, you have changed the way I look at movies, dude. It's unbelievable. Run time box office? Yeah. That's what you got to do. I also thought Terry, Liz and I were both like, Terry looks like Michael Jackson in this movie. Terry looks like Michael Jackson? Yes. Late stage speed racer Michael Jackson? No, boy Terry looks like a young, white Michael Jackson. I mean. I'm trying to make it work. And we couldn't stop seeing it. She's in The Loose Tie, which we never talked about. Why shouldn't it tie the whole movie? I love it. You guys were at home talking, saying that Terry looks like Michael Jackson? Yeah. Elvis Costello. She's doing Costello. Yeah, they did say that. Elvis Costello. I don't know. I'd be interested to see what the public thinks of this choice of a movie. I know I was excited for it. Kyle just brought it up. Sure thing. I love that. That's my favorite movie we did in 2025. Sure thing. Came out a month before this. I thought it was fantastic. Phil, everyone's going to be so baffled why we did this movie. You know that to be true. I heard the people at Netflix weren't in unless you did just one of the guys. - Yeah. We love the pod, but you got to do it. The corrupting influence of Ted Sarandos. By the way, this is why we snuck it in right before the Netflix movie. My generation has been robbed of, like, Kyle, you saying that this was the first time you saw boobs. And it was, like, on the big screen, you, like, trying to pause it. I don't have a memory of the first time. It's just, like, somebody, like, pulled up some weird website on their iPod Touch and showed me it. And I was like, okay. I have some good news for this movie, by the way. Available on Tubi. Awesome. Tubi, Tubi. Of course they have it. Yeah. It's right next to Legend of Billie Jean on Tubi. Is that true? I was on my flight yesterday watching it on Tubi. Kyle Tubied on a plane. I've never Tubied on a plane. The Delta Wi-Fi worked great. It was no problem at all. We should start doing polls. We should do, I want to do generational polls. I wish I could, like, see the age, like, when this flips. The demographics. Yes. Yeah. I think I'm on the right side of history. I think if I took anybody under 35 and had them watch this movie for the first time, I feel confident they would side with me. But maybe I'm wrong. I think that's fair. I think that's true. Yeah. I don't disagree. There was no way you were ever going to like this movie. And I'm not mad at you. It's a moment in time. Well, next week's movie is a little more highly regarded. Oh, yeah? Yeah. It's regarding Henry? No. Oh, I thought that was the choice of words. Oh, we have one more. Yeah, right, right, right. Oh, yeah. There's one more we got to squeeze in. One more? One more? The first Netflix one is going to be a big one. One more pre-Netflix squeeze in. One more? What are you doing, Bill? No, it's, it's. You might as well just tease me. You're going to get daylight. It's going to be on Wednesday. We're doing another. Van and Chris and I are doing another 48 Hours. It's a special. Oh, great. Awesome. It's, it's the sequel that frustrates me the most. Yeah. And I've seen it. Should you call this What the Hell January? It could be. Well, it's. Dumpuary, yeah, yeah, yeah. 48 Hours is your favorite movie, right? The original. Yeah, it's probably the one I've seen the most. Yeah, yeah. And then the sequel I was incredibly excited about. And it just, it's so frustrating. So we're going to talk about it. I'm frustrated with it. That'll be Wednesday's rewatchable. What do we care? I was hoping for the Redevil Wears Prada. Like, when's that? Because I'm ready for that too, baby. We just watched it. Ben had never seen it. And he was fascinated that I made it number one on my most rewatchables list. And we watched it. He thought it was a good movie. It is. It's a great movie. It's, I think, appeals to all people. Yeah, I don't know anybody who doesn't like that movie. Yeah. Yeah. Vinny Chase, too. There's all kinds of stuff to talk about. Yeah. I don't know what happened to you. Well, you have a career. I don't know. He's kind of like Terry in this movie playing a guy. Is he a chef in Redevil Wears Prada? Yeah. Yeah. There's one point he asked Anne Hathaway for a brisket. He made her a grilled cheese and he's like really mad. Joanna, pleasure. Kyle, great to see you. A delight. As always, thank you for my t-shirt. Of course. Of course. Finding a doctor is hard enough. Finding the right doctor, even harder. Someone who takes your insurance, has an available appointment when you need one, and feels like someone you can actually open up to. That's where ZocDoc comes in. Download the ZocDoc app to search and compare doctors by specialty, insurance, and availability. Read real patient reviews, find the right fit for you, and book instantly. Because getting seen by the right doctor matters. ZocDoc. 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